1:28Um our request today is to add a sign, like a hanging sign, like you see other businesses have on the street.
1:37Um it is black white, and then the yellow is the same color as our door, which is the colonial yellow that's in the approved colors.
1:48I know it shows different, but I promise it's the same.
1:54Um the sign is sixteen inches tall by twenty inches wide.
1:59Um it is made of wood, it is treated so that it will not it will withstand the weather.
2:07Um, and it'll just be hanging.
2:09There are two existing hooks already um in the soffit that we will be hanging from, so we won't be doing anything to the building.
2:19Shelby, does she need a variance or anything?
2:24Do you guys have another sign?
2:29This would be our only sign.
2:31We don't have any signage on the building.
2:33We have the awning, but that's all we have.
2:38Well, okay, yeah, the door.
2:40Um is this gonna hang from the yes, it will hang from the you can't see them, but there are two hooks that already exist.
2:50Um I'm assuming previous businesses used.
3:00So like when you're walking down the street, you will see it.
3:03Yeah, you will face it.
3:05So the bottom's gonna hang down, but but it's gonna be above the door.
3:08Uh yeah, it'll come yes.
3:12It's it'll like very little.
3:14I know it this is a you know, proportionally is not exactly right, but I wanted you to be able to tell where the sign was gonna be.
3:21Um but yeah, it will barely hang it maybe like an inch below the door height, honestly.
3:27But yes, we made sure that we measured for like people height and walking and things like that.
4:11You're thinking that's uh one forty eight church street.
4:18Oh, that's a good thing.
4:30Um the agenda was he's there next on the addend.
4:37Well, I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to find it.
4:39No, because the agenda is an amend amended agenda that I left.
4:45Yeah, it's on the amendment.
4:46That has one forty-eight on there.
4:49This is amended in red here.
4:54I left it on your I left gave each one.
5:00All right, Don, go ahead.
5:02My name is Don Dorsey.
5:04I'm a member of First Baptist Church Marietta, and here this evening requesting your approval to make a couple or three changes to the exterior facade of the building that we refer to as our Family Life Center, which is located at the corner of Dobbs Street and Church Street, right across Dobb Street from our main building complex.
5:28Stop Shelby at this one if you would for just a moment.
5:31This is shown for reference only.
5:34This is a photograph of the exterior facade of our main building complex.
5:40Sharing these photographs to illustrate the colors that we would like to use to essentially recoat or paint the Family Life Center that exists directly across the street from our main building complex that you see here.
6:12And the addition to the original chapel.
6:46And then the balance of the building, the second and third floor, would uh be the color of the uh light colored portion of the building.
6:55Shelby, if you could advance it.
6:57Um these two photographs are of the Family Life Center, uh the facade that faces Church Street.
7:05This is the main entrance to the building.
7:08Uh the view at the top is almost directly east, looking from Church Street to the facade of the building.
7:16While we're on this one, uh one other change that we would like to make that is both aesthetic as well as weather protecting is to add a canopy across the full width of the entrance there that you see.
7:32Uh aesthetically, we feel like it'll be uh an improvement, uh, but it's more important in terms of protecting the entrance doors from the strong west rains that we frequently get that have a way of migrating water through the doors uh and windows.
7:51I'll share that with you in just a moment in a future slide.
7:55Uh the next uh picture down is the essentially the same facade, just looked at at a slightly different uh angle.
8:04And what we're proposing to do right now, this is natural tan brick.
8:09Uh we've had some weather problems with water migrating through the brick, so we would like to coat it with a uh lastomeric coating, which essentially is paint on steroids.
8:20It helps seal the brick and the mortar joints so that uh water will not be absorbed.
8:26And what we would like to do is to paint the main body of the brick with a very light colored uh paint that exists on the existing main building complex.
8:38And then for this banding that you see here, as well as the cross and the surround around the main entrance.
8:48We're considering two options.
8:50I would have preferred only to bring one to you, but the church can't make up their mind which of two colors they would like to paint this banding and the cross.
9:01Uh one option which is included in the color material is uh to paint the brick again, the very light or cream colored paint, and to slightly accent the horizontal band and the cross with a lighter, probably four shades lighter white, just to make a very subtle uh emphasis on the banding and the accent of the cross, and for the rest of the building, it would be the the very light cream colored brick, uh maintaining the dark bronze aluminum storefront framing that exists there now.
9:38That would also be the color we're proposing for the canopy of the dark bronze.
9:44Hey Shelby, if you want to go one more.
9:48Uh this is a kind of an incidental improvement we would like to make.
9:51Back when the building was built uh in the 90s, we only felt we needed some handrails in a few uh spaces.
10:00Now we're realizing it would be beneficial uh to have additional handrails at the main entrance where you have to walk up about four or five steps.
10:08So for the folks like me that are getting a little elderly, those handrails come in handy.
10:13So the reason for showing this is that we intend to replicate the architectural theme of this handrail with new handrails on the the front steps.
10:27Can you rotate this?
10:34This is color scheme one.
10:36Again, everything is the same for both color schemes, with the exception of the color to use in the banding, the surround around the entrance and the crosses.
10:49Um again, the very light color for the brick, and then the white color for the cross and the banding in the surround.
10:57And then the canopy, which I have a larger image of, I'll share with you shortly, is directly across the full 24-25 foot width of the front entrance.
11:10Okay, Shelby, if you go one, go two more if you would.
11:16And then it's it's maybe very modest to understand in these drawings, but again, the only difference is in option two, the color of the banding and the surrounding the cross would be the darker grayish brown color that we're using on the base of the building, again, replicating what's across the street at the uh Stone Mountain Granite ground floor of the building complex.
11:48The awning or canopy and the storefront, all the colors of the trim, uh, as well as the roofing shingles remain the same.
12:05Uh, this is just a larger image of what's proposed for the canopy.
12:10It'll be a um a suspended hangar rod canopy, about three rods suspended from structural elements within the window framing itself.
12:22Uh the height of this canopy is about two feet, which matches the finestration of the uh storefront, uh, full width again.
12:33Uh, we would like to put the name of the church and the name of the building on the front face of the canopy.
12:40It would extend out about six feet and maybe seven just to the edge of the steps.
12:46And again, it's primarily for the purpose of providing weather protection for our front entrance, but we also feel like it'll be a uh uh reasonable um aesthetic enhancement to the building as well.
13:00Hopefully, all that makes some sense.
13:02Happy to try to answer any questions you might have.
13:06The canopy is gonna be canvas or what it'll be metal.
13:10Okay, form to metal.
13:12Then I was a little bit confused.
13:14You said that some other folks at the church had an opinion about the colors.
13:18Which were the colors that were in question there.
13:22Okay, Shelby, if you don't mind flipping back.
13:29Um sorry, right flip one more forward.
13:35And if you can rotate it.
13:41This is a very bad representation from the copier.
13:44I'm not sure you're gonna be able to discern it.
13:47I think you were distributed copies, so maybe you if I I'll guide you on the on the slide, and maybe you can see uh the brick color, the light color, which looks like paper here, um, is included a real uh true color sample there.
14:04Uh this is the color that we propose to use on the base of the building, uh, which is essentially just the ground floor, uh, and then the accent color, castone accent color, is a um uh a snow white almost color that'll just be a uh a very subtle accent to the cream colored body of the brick.
14:33Now that's the only change between option one and watching option two.
14:38Yeah, Shelby, if you go to the same paint color samples for option two, okay.
14:46Again, the the same color brick, that's the base gray color, and then that same base color that's at the ground floor around the building, would be used as the accents for the horizontal band and the crosses and that surround that uh encompasses the main entrance.
15:00And then that same base color that's at the ground floor around the building would be used as the accents for the horizontal band and the crosses and that surround that uh encompasses the main entrance.
15:13But you want us to approve both, right?
15:17Yes, I'm sorry, but if you if you would, that would be ideal.
15:21I mean, if you would like to make a recommendation, I'd be happy to pass it on.
15:25But right now it's about 5050 among the congregation.
15:30So I'm like we have a question, I'm sorry.
15:33Chris has I was going to make a uh motion that we accept it with the uh option of the two colors and everything else as presented.
15:42Did you have a question, Chris?
15:44Okay, what's the question?
15:45Oh sorry, I asked you if you had a question.
15:47So my question deals with uh canopy and how again I know you said it one time, how it is affixed to the building and whether it is stationary and translucent, or is it opaque and somehow on connected to something that can move?
16:11It is stationary and it is opaque.
16:13It'll be a dark bronze, which is the same color as the framing for the storefront and glass there.
16:21It is suspended from that storefront with hangar rods, but is totally permanent, fixed, and uh opaque.
16:34What came to my mind was what's been done at the airport, and was hoping that it would not be like the big canopy at the airport drive under the case.
16:45I'm sorry, sounds like Brown, I'm not familiar with that.
16:50Sounds a lot more reserved than that.
16:53And I'll say I'm a neighbor from across the street at St.
16:58We have struggled and struggled over the years trying to waterproof whatever's over there.
17:03I hope you're it's it's not easy.
17:08Any other questions?
17:10That's all I think you want to restate your memory.
17:12Yeah, I might I make a motion that we uh approve this as presented and included giving the church the option of the two colors that they uh have in motion.
17:25Any other discussion?
17:31Thank you very much.
17:32You should recruit Don to your church, and maybe he'll help you with your waterproofing issues.
17:4436 Trammel Street, somebody here.
17:47This is Jose Torres with uh PPR building design, and uh we are trying to get some stuff approved on a couple buildings.
17:55Um it's replacement of the windows mainly, um, changing um some of the windows on building 30 to 35 and 45 for the PVC replacement windows, and on the historic one, which is built in 37, changing to wood, the the wood window sash replacements, lap setting replacement and decorative trim to repair on this building here.
18:19So the the wood you're proposing is different from what's in your application, correct?
18:25The wood, the wood windows.
18:28Yes, so the yeah, one of them is a wood windows and the other ones are the um PVC replacement.
18:33Because I think we asked, and we were told they were all gonna be vinyl, but now you're saying they're wood.
18:38Yeah, on building 37, it was yes, that one's a wood window slash replacement.
18:43Oh, I'm sorry, yes, you're right.
18:45They're all um PVC windows, you're correct.
18:49Including 37 on one of the buildings, they've already approved it prior, so we're trying to get the approval on all the buildings as well.
19:05If there are any other questions, or I'll explain the window issue.
19:09But if somebody has some other question, but the issue is in our guidelines to have here somewhere.
19:39Basically, it says that any windows visible from the public right-of-way, the exterior should be wood.
19:51On on any of the buildings.
19:54Well, if they're historic.
19:57Because um, I think that the the historic one is 37.
20:01And I like I said, on one of those buildings, we were priorly approved PVC window replacement prior.
20:08So that's why we were trying to move forward on doing the same type of windows for all three buildings.
20:15I mean that is correct.
20:17Those some point the vinyl was approved.
20:27But we hear here I'll just read it real quick.
20:29This is out of the guidelines 9.2.09.
20:32Windows should be double hung slasher casement windows and finish on the exterior with wood.
20:43And says um elevations that are seen from the public rights of way, in particular, the front elevation should always have windows that are finished on the exterior with wood.
20:53Vinyl clad or one over one light double hung windows may be utilized on elevations that are not visible from public rights of way.
21:01Example, the rear elevation.
21:06So saying just the stuff that's not visible to the street to be plastic windows.
21:11The rest would have to be wood.
21:15So we'll have to go back to the drawing board and talk to the uh the owner about getting that updated.
21:21But if you want to come back in next month with a different plan, you can do that.
21:27Okay, we can do that.
21:28So I'll talk to them and we'll get this updated for you guys.
21:30And do we need to resubmit anything else?
21:33No, but before you go, let me look at the because you're also asking for siding.
21:39Yes, sighting is lap setting replacement on building 37.
21:46Yeah, you're gonna put like some kind of hardy product for the siding, right?
21:52And then you had repaint the exterior, replace side staircase, install flyover roof.
21:59Yeah, we showed the examples there, the colors and the sighting material as well.
22:05So what we could do is approve everything except the windows, if that's the will of this group.
22:11What if how is what is the staircase gonna be made with?
22:16Is it just gonna be pressure treated wood?
22:18Pressure treated wood, correct.
22:20Leave it pressured exposed.
22:22Yes, just like building number, I think uh 30 to 35 right there.
22:26You can see where that uh um that staircase got redone at one point.
22:31And some of these are apartments, right?
22:36Or they're all apartments.
22:39Yeah, yeah, they're all apartments.
22:44Well, that's why you have all these stairs, right?
22:46So people can get to their unit.
22:55So if you guys could approve that, you're saying come back with the proposal on doing the windows out of wood.
23:02Just for the ones that are visible from the public right-of-way.
23:06But we can go ahead with everything else if that's agreeable.
23:12Somebody wants to make a motion to approve everything except the windows if everyone's okay with that.
23:19I'll make a motion to bike for light.
23:23Yeah, the the stairwell like for light.
23:28I'll make the motion to approve all the items that he's requesting except for the windows.
23:37And and just to make it clear, you're not denying the windows at this point.
23:40They're going to come back next month with any other discussion?
23:50So when you come back, remember just the ones that are visible from the public right-of-way.
23:55Thank you guys so much.
24:10Uh Merritt Lancaster, Bridger Properties.
24:15Um we are here for the front monument sign in front of Mary Station.
24:22Um I'm not exactly sure when that was built, but I think it was late 90s based on what we could figure out from the Google Earth images.
24:31And so as we we're gonna redo the landscape in front, and what we're trying to do is paint that brick, which is obviously it's not the same brick that's in the old buildings, the same color is the wall that is adjacent to the parking lot.
24:44Um side of seven tequila is there.
24:47Uh we'll keep all the iron black and then redo the back of the signage to match the new awnings that were previously approved.
24:56But it's just the sign, all right.
25:01The the uh church street name there is kind of white it out because of the white background.
25:07Are you considering darkening that or yeah?
25:11We'll uh we will figure out maybe some different lettering that's more pronounced.
25:20I move that we approve this.
25:23Yeah, I'll say any other discussion.
25:27Well, yeah, you said you'll change that because that's can't read the numbers or no, you can't see anything actually.
25:31Now that I'm sitting here looking, that's kind of embarrassing.
25:33Um I I think what we probably do is use the same.
25:37Well, we would probably take we we'll redo those maybe with the same blue-green that's the the background of the signage that matches the uh the awnings on the Maria Station buildings.
25:47But I thought the way your application is you're just gonna paint the um the sign and the railings.
25:56You're not saying you don't say anything about the lettering.
25:59We didn't, you're correct, we did not.
26:00I think we but what color is the lettering now?
26:05I believe it's currently white, which is why that looks like it does.
26:09Bottom right currently okay, yeah, it is white.
26:14So you're you would like to include painting the letters the same color?
26:18So we can add that as a yeah, okay.
26:20So what color do you want to paint the letter?
26:22We use the same color as the background of the uh the signs, the upper myriad station, which all matches the awnings on the buildings.
26:31So kind of that blue, correct.
26:34So who made the motion?
26:36You want to I guess you want to resistate right?
26:42I uh propose that we approve this application contingent upon those letters being painted blue.
26:52You may want to you may want to tie the color.
26:54I think on the application we actually got.
26:57That's the exact color.
26:59Um, you may want to look at the I think it's the back page.
27:03It's not if I'm following this correctly.
27:08Yeah, it's on the I can't read that bungle house.
27:11Bungle house blue house.
27:13That's you want to say that.
27:14I moved that we approve the colour.
27:19I move that we have approve this application contingent upon the letters being painted bungle house blue.
27:32Any other discussion?