So yeah.

So this is the exterior of the building.

We are wanting to paint it with the billard green, the one that I just told you guys.

To an idea.

Please don't mind the um chairs.

Those are AI is also idea of uh what to put.

Uh and the city is proposing a mural for the uh side uh side of the restaurant.

So the color the billard green is very similar to that uh mural proposal that you guys are gonna receive today.

A couple of things your application really doesn't say that you're painting the building.

Um the exterior painting.

The um the second item on the application that you can see right here it says exterior painting, dark all dark olive green, not from the approved Shervin Williams color palette, but close in color to Billard Green, SW0016, which is an approved color for the historic downtown.

Do you have that?

On the agenda.

Um, agenda, but not in the application.

No.

This is this is different from the mural on the side.

Yes.

Okay.

So basically the mural, um, the mural's background, we're painting it.

So that's to you know, match the whole um uh sheam of the that's the mural, actually, similar to that.

Uh we wanted to paint a whole uh front end.

It would be a continuation of the mural, or it would just be the same color.

So the color is gonna be the same, but the mural is gonna be on the side of the building.

So when you say the colors will be the same, there's a myriad of colors there on the mural.

Which color are you talking about?

So that's the green background.

So it's gonna the background is gonna be all the same, and there's gonna be uh on the side the mural is gonna be painted.

Which is the background?

I'm I'm a little bit.

If you look at the um side, the back side of it.

Um so this is AI created, so the the color code is gonna be the billiard green.

So it's like a older green, like a dark green tone.

Which is um, I guess the leaves are more close to the which can you point to the green you're talking about in front of the building?

Uh I think she's talking about this.

Is that yes, yes.

The really dark green.

Oh yeah, older green, a bit lighter than that, obviously, but yes.

Okay.

So can we can we bail her out here and uh consider that?

No, you talking about it.

Yeah, I don't know why it's not in the application, but it is on the agenda.

I thought that we put it in there.

I apologize for that.

Gotcha, gotcha.

Uh and your sign.

Is your sign flat on the wall or is it?

No, the AI created it that way, but it's gonna be facing it's gonna be perpendicular, it's gonna be facing the street.

It's it's gonna be let's yes, sir.

It's gonna be the same size.

So we have the kiosk sign.

Yeah.

It's the same size with the kiosk sign, but this one is gonna have a little bit of uh dim light inside of it.

Inside the sign.

Um no, yes.

It just looks a little larger than 30 inches.

Yes, it is.

It looks as I said, because uh we want to show it to you what we are planning.

Uh that's an AI created image, so it made it a lot bigger than it actually will be.

And is this where it's going?

Yes, the hooks already from the previous businesses there, so um it's gonna be where it's going.

Cool.

And then uh I'm a little bit confused on on this page.

So there you're gonna have this is just a further example of the page.

Yes, the company um that we're working with, the Sinorama, so they send us some um similar lightings and like how it's um installed to the wall.

We don't need any if we could have left this page out.

Yes.

Okay, just that is correct.

Also, if I may continue, um the last part it says here on our uh placement that um for our furniture outdoor furniture.

It says this is not considered as part of the submission, but we actually proposed it as well.

Um I we know that the front part of the uh restaurant, we cannot change the uh furniture because there's a um you know there we need to be in compliance with the city, but our side of the patio, which you can see in the photo right now, um it's our part of the uh property.

We would like to go with an earth-toned chairs and um similar tables on our patio.

That's not in our jurisdiction.

It is just processes.

Oh, okay.

Because maybe we wanted to make sure that we're in compliance because we know the front part of from kiosk, we know that we need to have those metal um tables and chairs.

But we wanted to you know make sure that we're in compliance with the board.

All right.

That's about any questions, comments?

We don't need to comment on the the color of the furniture.

Yes.

We do.

Yeah, color material.

Okay.

And it's gonna be approximately.

Yes.

Yes.

What are they made out of?

Um bamboo and uh wicker.

No, not metal.

But the uh obviously tabletops are gonna be um marble.

We have marble um tables inside the restaurant, so similar to that.

And the um the bottom part is gonna be black again, um, like the city, you know, the same colour, but uh the tops are gonna be marble, which is because more useful, obviously, than the metal uh tables, and um the side the chairs are gonna be you know well bump I mean I don't know the exact material as this moment, but um uh wicker bamboo or tones and the table base is black, yes.

We have to describe all that if you're clear on it, okay.

My understanding, please tell me if I've got this wrong, is you are picking you are proving the color of the furniture, but not the style or placement of the furniture.

Okay, so just the color.

Okay.

So the color is a marble top tables with marble tops and black bases and chairs with natural wicker.

Yeah, like it.

I mean, it's very similar to what you're seeing right now on the I know, but we have to describe it.

Oh, yes, sure, of course.

Earth tone work or should it be earth tops?

Looks like a natural wicker too.

Natural wood.

Natural wood, okay.

Natural wood.

So you're gonna take a step on the only chairs with marble table, black metal base.

Yeah, but but again, we're not approving the style of the furniture.

We're only proving the color.

So we don't want to get into the whether it's a metal base and wicker and all that kind of stuff.

Black base, yeah.

Uh is there a uh variance needed on the sun?

And we have to approve the mural.

No.

It's coming up in uh, okay, all right.

Later furniture.

Yes, yeah, it's very clear.

And the hot the uh green olives we have to specify that because it's not in the area.

You could you could say you could specify the color as shown in the mural, but make it clear you're not approving the mural.

That's just a reference point.

Well, I think that you're doing the green olive, correct?

That's your color.

Yes, dark all or green is the olive green.

I've got a I've got a question for you.

So we I was okay with the olive green, but in this picture, it's it's a little lighter and shows the contrast between the existing trim and the in the paint here.

It's that dark green, you're not gonna get the contrast.

So we're are we looking at two different things?

They're both AI created.

So we put the mural uh proposals from the city on uh AI uploaded them, and then we said, can you put it to um our existing photo?

And then this one um I was talking to AISA, like you know, dark olive green, and then the put the sign, so it was um comments to AI, so that's why it's two different photos, obviously, from AI generated.

So we're gonna be the um the city's background for the mural is gonna continue on to the front part of the um so it's not gonna, as I said, the AI is creating it has like obviously differences of the colour.

That's gonna make all this basically very dark.

Yes.

Okay, just that's what you want.

Um it's actually similar to um I forgot the name, but there is a jewelry store on the square.

So if you might have an idea, um by the what is and then also Gianni's has a dark green front, so the dark green, so you have an idea of we're not trying to run you through the ringer here.

I'm trying to get cleared up so Dave.

Sure.

If you want, or I can, whatever you want to interrupt me if I screw up.

Okay, go ahead.

All right.

Well, uh any more questions.

No, any any other questions?

Okay.

Okay.

Uh make a motion that we approve the uh application as presented with the addition of the green in the base background color on the mural to be applied to the front of the building.

And also the furniture to be the natural wicker down here in the picture for the chairs.

For the chairs, and the uh same color for the marble top tailor uh tables as shown in the picture.

And then you need to add I'm sorry.

No, I was gonna say marble tops and black base.

Well, we're not getting into what it is.

You can do the color.

You just gotta do the marble color.

Black base, marble top and black base.

Oh, the black okay, black base, yeah.

Okay.

But we just need to make sure to, and I'm sorry to make this confusing.

But because the application says one of the things you're approving on the application, which they signed is the mural for the side wall.

You're not approving that.

Okay, we're excluding.

Sandra, can you leave?

Oh, sure.

She she hates me right now.

Sandra's got bills out there.

Okay.

Um Mr.

Kendall made the motion to approve the application as submitted with the following conditions that the color be as shown in the application within the mural, uh, represented by the applicant as dark olive green.

Additionally, the furniture coloring should be black bases with marble tops, chairs of a natural wood color, i.e.

bamboo.

The approval excludes the mural, which will be presented by another presenter.

Okay.

The only thing I noticed where you said marble tops and black base, I don't think you said table.

Yeah, uh well, okay.

Well, I I table.

Okay.

All right, you got it.

Also, we have our sign.

Oh, okay.

Well, I said, you know, everything is uh the application is approved.

Okay, so that includes the sign.

The sign is approved, the exterior paint is approved with the condition that it be dark olive green, mimicking what's shown in the mural, and that the uh furniture be uh black base with a marble top for the table, chairs of a natural wood color, such as bamboo.

We are excluding the mural from this, which will be presented by the Marietta Arts Council.

All right, perfect.

Second anybody?

All those in favor?

All right, thank you.

All right, thank you guys.

Great place.

Yeah, I'm excited.

It's gonna be a good time.

And the murals are you is that you, Abby?

That's me.

Do we have to do each one individual?

I think we typically do, don't we?

Look at each one.

I as I understand it, you've got several that are just the same.

Right.

And you got a couple, maybe two or three that are new.

They need to at least show all of the ones.

Okay, that's what I'm saying.

But you could do one motion for all the ones that are the same, and then maybe do a separate motion for the new.

So Shelby, let's just show each one of the existing, and if there's no questions, you you won't have to do any.

Everybody signed off on them, so good sign.

I'm sorry, introduce yourself.

Hi, I'm Abby Smith, the executive director of the Marietta Arts Council.

If you have any comments as we're going, Jim.

I move that we um we're not ready, we're gonna we gotta go through I like your excitement.

Because in the minutes, Sandra will have to list each one.

Yeah, so but if you have any comments about any of the ones we're showing.

Yeah, I'll speak uh sorry.

Yeah, that's classic.

No, we just like to have them.

Yeah.

Is that it?

Any questions on this?

Okay, so let's show the two new ones.

Oh, I'd do a motion to if I'd go I'd do a motion for the existing ones.

Okay, somebody want to make a motion.

I move that we approve the application for the existing murals.

Okay, perfect.

There's second.

Second.

Any other discussion?

All those in favor.

Okay.

Okay, Abby.

Oh, yes, call.

Yeah, it is.

It is kind of cool.

Yeah.

Okay.

Should I take it from here?

All right.

Um, so we were um talking with Khan and Kiosko about um replacing the mural at 48 Powder Spring Street, but that kind of led to a conversation about the new restaurant concept that they were opening up and um how they were going to repaint the building.

So we decided to um, you know, we hosted our general call for art like we always do, and uh Rocky here submitted this um great concept that I feel is very subtle and classic and something that you would see in a downtown area.

And so our committee decided to propose um this to y'all, and we've had a lot of conversation about it already.

Um and it looks like they're moving forward with repainting the building.

So um I would like to hear from y'all.

I think it looks nice.

I think it's courtyards look very nice too.

It'll make nice photos for people holding up their cocktails, you know.

What's the color at the bottom?

No, come on.

Right, don't even ask.

Okay, we go to the next one.

So what you're seeing in this picture is what's currently at the Marietta History Museum.

It is a train.

Yes, that um mural has been there for uh I mean probably around eight years, if I could go back.

Um I think that's what it stated.

But um it just, you know, it's it needed some love, and so we decided with America's 250th to work with an artist that did um, if you remember the two women um that were before Helen Choi's mural, this is Leanne Culver who did that mural.

So she has taken these um photos from the archives of the Marietta History Center Center and has overlaid them over quilt designs, kind of leaning into our history of quilting.

Um let's see, what else do we got?

We have not at this point, I know that that building is owned by the DMDA.

Um we weren't able to get approval from them quite yet, but if we were to get this approved here, we would halt until we got approval from the DMDA who owns the Marietta History Center building.

And if you all want to hear about the history and what kind of led to this um mural concept, I'm probably not the best one to speak to that, so I can give it to uh Lee Ann or Amy Reid, who is here with me as well.

The officer looks a little out of place.

Not I'm not one to question art, but what was the idea behind that?

It seems like it's not part of the quilting concept.

I might pass it to Lee Ann if that's okay.

Nobody knows better than the artist herself.

Um everyone.

Um I wanted uh chance.

Oh I'm Leanne, and that is my four-year-old back there.

So we're here as a duo.

Leanne Culver.

Okay, thank you.

Um the concept uh there I tried to make something that could honor a lot of history all in one concept.

Um, and I think uh I thought of weaving it together as like such as quilts, which quilts have such a significant history in the South.

Um and so I wanted to pull not only designs that um are known for the area, but also um fabrics that were um of the times um and what people were wearing, and I wanted to pull some photographs that I thought were really gorgeous within the museum and bring them out of the museum.

So kind of I pulled a lot from in to bring out.

Um and the quilts is just kind of a way to weave it all together, like weaving time together, so to speak.

Um, and then adding some color and elements of design in that as well.

But also my specialty is black and white photographs.

So I love historical photos and old photos, so it was my way of pulling um fabrics that are in the museum, um, patterns that are in the museum, and in the um the other museum, the yes, yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Um, and so it was just my it was the way I came up with to weave that all together and to honor many parts of our history.

Um, and then the sidewall to the very right is kind of dedicated to um veterans, and I am open in wanting to maybe adapt that a little bit just to honor maybe more veterans, but that's what all that means.

Yeah, I think it did a very nice job.

Thank you.

Any other comments, questions.

If we make a motion, we have to make it contingent upon the building owner approving it, but they don't have to come back.

I think if you do it contingent upon the building owner's approval, I guess y'all would that work.

We're gonna keep it kosher.

Motion somebody approved as presented.

Subject to the building owner approval.

Okay.

We needed to make sure in this we're clear in that motion that the subject to the building owner's approval only applies to the to the mural screen, not to the first one.

So you want to restate that.

Yeah, we just uh just add that the approval of the uh quilt project is subject to the building owner's approval.

As opposed to both.

There's second again.

Chris, any other discussion?

Oh, those are favor.

All right, thank you.

Thank you very much.

We really appreciate y'all.

That is it.

Any other items to discuss?

Okay, meeting adjourned, thank you.

Jude, if you want to just introduce yourself.

Yeah, it's very popular.

But I've been in tourism all my life and have worked with the Marietta um visit Marietta, which used to be the Marietta Visitors Bureau with the Cobb Convention of Visors Bureau for 21 years.

So I used to do history tours all the time and took people around from travel writers to our visitor center managers.

So I'm glad to be here and but I am learning, I will tell you.

So if you know me, this is very unlike me, but I will probably be very quiet tonight.

And and I I think most of you know, but I I mentioned this during the last meeting, but you know, Becky Paid and passed away since our last meeting.

I think most of you know, and you know, Becky stayed right until the end, you know.

So I I think in her honor we should have a moment of silence.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, and we've got our um church charity representatives tonight as well as our Kennesaw Avenue representatives tonight.

So with that, we'll get started.

So it's just me too.

Can you speak into your mic so we can hear it?

Yeah.

Did you get my name or do I need to repeat?

I think we got founder, you got it.

Um his name is on the application.

I think my wife's name is on there, Kristen.

I'm Nicholas.

Mr.

Bayer, he's been here before.

Okay, yes, Nicholas Bayer.

Okay, thank you.

All right.

Well, we are um applying to repair the cornices around the property.

Um they're in pretty significant distress.

They've been letting uh quite a lot of animals into the attic over the years.

Um so we are replacing uh sections as needed.

We're keeping as much as we can, but um, you know, some of the boards are are completely destroyed.

There's a non-trivial amount of just flashing that's been s screwed in to the wood uh to try and keep raccoons out with mixed success.

Um also fixing that dormer, which doesn't look very good.

Um so bas basically we we are continuing to work from the top of the house down, just trying to restore in kind.

Um the moldings themselves are being uh custom matched.

They're made out of southern pine, uh, which is consistent.

It's not not quite as dense as the original material, but it is the same material.

Um, and then we'll be painting the entire trim work.

Um as they move around, any questions, comments?

Any questions, comments?

Yeah, I got a question.

So what we're looking at then is when you're finished, we'll have this look.

It'll just be new.

Well, uh it won't look perfect, um, because we are we're we're gonna be scraping everything down and then repainting it.

So but yes, sir, it'll be the same pattern.

The tooth molding there and all you're gonna do.

Yes, sir.

Yeah, those those boards there are 18 inches wide.

Um and then there's uh another couple inches and then another 18-inch board, and then the crown is about 10 inches wide.

Yes, sir.

So I understood you weren't changing anything.

No, sir.

We're we we actually took a section of um several pieces of moldings and they're being accurately reproduced with custom knives matching the profiles exactly and splicing in where there is missing material.

Are you able to live in the house now or not?

No, we found asbestos before we got the electricity finished, so that's uh then removed and we're doing clearance testing, but we still don't have electricity.

So it's been all year no electricity.

Oh my god.

Any other comments, questions?

I move that we approved this application.

Uh yeah, any discussion?

Steve, did you have any other comments?

Thanks.

All those in favor?

Thank you for that.

I think I mentioned last time that that's one of the most historic homes uh in the city, so I think we're glad that the two of you have bought it and have really taken it seriously.

Yeah, we're we're trying.

Doing a great job.

Yeah, the it's uh 43.

1843, yeah.

The same architect built uh two houses in Roswell as well, contemporaneously.

Um I forget their names, but they're all both owned by the city.

You guys are doing a great job.

Yeah, we're gonna do that.

Yeah, yeah.

We walk I walk by your house to get lunch pretty frequently, because again, no power.

Hard to make lunch.

Come on in.

Come get lunch from you.

All right, thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, 22 22 Seminole Drive.

I'm not sure anyone are you here?

Okay.

Yes, sir.

I'm here.

Okay.

Again, introduce yourself.

Yes, my name is Johanna uh Gallinares, uh and I'm with East Coast Renovations.

Uh we just want to replace um the handrail, the front handrail of the porch, since it was in very bad a shape.

And after that for that kind of uh handrail.

Uh we that would be all over the front porch.

Then we want to uh install some black uh goddess uh also shown in uh uh one of the pictures as a sample.

Over the black gutters, and we want to replace the front door with one like that one.

You were not at the council meeting, right?

It was somebody else.

No, sir, yes.

Correct, sir.

I'm 13.

So can we see the uh handrail again on the picture?

So this is what's gonna be used on the front porch.

Correct.

When you uh when I read this, it it says you will be able to exact match to what was existing.

What there was one before.

Yes, it was.

Actually, that is uh the one that was before, but it was uh rotten, so uh it was removed.

I got you.

And we are you thinking about similar to this or are a metal structure?

No, it uh it all would be wood.

Oh we okay, just the one on on the picture uh shown in the picture.

That is the same pattern that uh we are thinking about placing.

Uh can you just that one.

That same pattern, that same uh style.

Uh that same thing.

Yeah.

Right across the street.

Correct.

What does the current front door look like?

Um it's uh no, I do not.

It's a wood uh door, but it's rotten and it doesn't close anymore.

Does it have the panes at the top?

Yes.

It has a window on the top?

Yeah.

That's the sample of the door that we are trying to place there.

So there's a non-functioning transom window over the door.

Above the door?

Above the door above the door.

There are two windows on yeah.

Side lights.

Side windows, exactly.

There are two side windows and the door.

And is that a window at the top above the door?

I believe it's trim.

Okay.

But that will stay.

The only thing that it's gonna be replaced is the door.

So you're keeping the sidelines.

Correct.

And the door will be painted or finished with a whacker or varnish.

Um that information I do not know, but it can be um kept as wood.

Well, remember the HPC, we don't uh approve colors.

Right.

Okay.

Yeah, it's just trim.

Okay.

Any other comments or questions?

I think Jim Morris wants to come up, correct?

Excuse me.

While we're waiting, what was your last name?

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

That's much better.

He'll speak for a minute and we'll probably call you back up.

Okay, perfect.

Don't worry.

Thanks.

I don't go anywhere.

Yeah, yeah, I will.

I'm Jim Morris.

Uh I live uh just behind this house in question.

Um it was surprising to me when I read the application, and they showed you a photo of the railings that they want to replicate, which are in place in the house across Edo from this house.

There have only been three teardowns in all of the 1926 Cherokee Height subdivision, and the house they showed was one of the teardowns with the railings, the wood railings as an example of what they want to do.

Uh that was built by Dr.

Robinson after he tore down a house that had had two serial deaths in it from old men who weren't able to take care of the place, and it was a smaller house, and it was in need of tearing down.

So he replaced it with this house in 2009.

So those are 2009 railings.

So I was wanting point that out to you.

Uh the house, the porch that they're dealing with is a porch that was a screen porch.

It was not original with the house.

The house originally had a much narrower porch, so all the screening that was on it was added fairly recently.

Uh the wood that's on it was tinkered with, and I'm not against them putting up a new porch with railings and not put a screen on or whatever, uh, just as long as they get the thing looking appropriate.

Uh I question whether or not the Robinson House railings, the wood railings are appropriate for it, but uh I'll leave that up to you.

But I just thought that was a curiosity.

Uh the black uh gutters that they're proposing is startling to me, but uh I know they have black gutters in other places.

I don't know of very many houses in our neighborhood that have that.

Uh most of them are uh milder color or they're white.

But uh I just want to pass that on to you that uh uh there's a lot of possibilities when making that a very attractive sitting porch without the screen with some simple wood trim and you want railings so people don't fall off it.

But go for it.

All right, thank you, Jim.

Any other comments, questions?

Anyone?

Nancy?

Is there a reason you chose black for gutters?

You can come back up.

Just curious.

Okay.

Just highlights uh from the brick, the color of the brick and the and the black is just part of the design.

Comments, questions?

Oh, nothing.

Well, the railings still.

It's a change from what they have now.

They have the vertical ballast.

Right.

Right?

They are white.

Why couldn't they just duplicate those?

Well, I th I think it's some choice here.

And it's across the street.

There's one there now that would someone want to protect that.

So I don't see how it's I think it could be in the eye of the beholder about what's best in your mind, but what should we deny or approve?

Should I get into that of getting in your way to make a choice on that?

Uh I might not do the same one, but I'm not sure I should tell you you can't.

I agree.

I agree.

Anyone else?

Yeah.

Yeah, I'll make a motion that we approve it as presented.

Okay.

Second.

All right.

Any other sorry, who was the second?

Nancy or any other discussion.

All those in favor.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Ms.

Renfo, did you vote?

I did.

Oh, you did too.

I did.

For those of you that didn't attend the council meeting when they uh appealed the COA.

Um there were three of us there.

Um Joe, myself, and Steve, and we all spoke, and the council voted unanimously to upla uphold our COA denial on the windows.

So what happened with the windows?

They've got to go back with the wood windows and saying that the council supported.

I was a little pleasantly surprised at the outcome.

Well um I I well, I wasn't that, so I wasn't surprised.

And no, and uh, and I have got some stuff and I'll tell you about about windows and information not to get off the track of this, but um it it was it was failing for uh three reasons.

It was not the original material like kind.

It was discouraged, it was a violent, it was discouraged, and it was the appearance of the window with a uh spacer in between the two panes.

So it was like three strikes.

And so I I thought that was a pretty clear no.

And uh so I I feel good about that.

Um there are some interesting things about windows I want to address separately that would help I think all of us, because windows are such a key part of a home's definition of style, that would I think it's helped me a little bit with what I found, and I want to share some of that if maybe at the end of this.

Okay, that's good.

All right, 211 fryer.

Um yes, I'm Victoria Gibson here on behalf of my mother-in-law, the homeowner, Margaret Fawcett, and we are here to um ask you to approve an addition to her front porch.

We would like to add a handrail safety rail in keeping with the style of the 1920s.

Um can be a twisted picket altern alternating or each one partially twisted.

Um happy to take notes from I guess you're Nancy.

Um Victoria, nice to finally meet you.

Um but so we kind of have a a vague plan in terms of like the finalization of the picket style, but it's just kind of a simple handrail.

Um the porch sits up over three feet, so definitely think it's being needed.

If you can it was a in Google Maps, an old screened-in porch that was rotten, so we had that removed when we painted the house.

Um what material are you gonna use for the railing?

Um, iron.

Like a wrought iron, black.

I drove by today, and uh I took a picture of it and it's a nice clean without the screen on it.

And I think with the with the depth of the drop.

Yes, sir.

Uh for I think form and function, so to speak, to be able to get on the edge and not be worried.

It's just that way.

Uh that that would be well, I would be good with that.

Um guidelines do allow if there's no evidence of that a porch existed, a new one can be constructed on any facade as long as it's consistent with basically the look of the neighborhood.

And I would extend that not just to the porch itself, but to the add on to the railing.

Okay.

So I think that okay with a reasonable look that you come up with the material.

And you've come up with one that you happen to think is is good.

More or less that was the plan.

My guy, as you can see, is kind of old school with his drawings and sketches.

I don't have like a CAD that shows you how it'll look tomorrow, but I think the alternating twist that goes like two-thirds of the way down on each or the way up, kind of a middle twist, if you will, um is what I would like to see approved there.

Um but we can do twists all the way through.

I mean, I guess that's up to you, Margaret, as long as we keep it kind of in this vision in this vein.

I would think we we don't really have a preference as a board.

Which railing.

So I mean if you have twisted dig yet.

Yeah.

At least I like it's not AI generated.

I I think this may be more uh uh you know accessible by us.

So we're okay.

Great.

We've got two options we we can prove either or you can tell us which one you want and we can approve that, correct?

Yeah.

Margaret, do you either um yeah?

If you wouldn't maybe we could do it'll have a twist.

So the I think the question is is it an alternating twist, or is it every single one with a twist?

Yeah, but I don't I don't think we really care, so we can approve it.

You can approve both options, and then she can have a lot of things.

That's what you want.

Yeah, either two.

That would be great if y'all don't mind.

I'll make a motion that we approve and give them the option of uh twisting every other one or every one.

Okay.

Okay.

Second.

Second.

Any other discussion?

All those in favor.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay.

Next one.

Oh, thanks.

I got one one more on here.

I'll just stay up here for it, I guess.

This is my first application process, so you guys, if you can't tell.

The next application we did submit, it is a little bit more vague because I was not a hundred percent sure on when this was built as a carriage house.

Jim, our neighbor knows a lot about the history.

The wood is rotten um in so many parts of it.

So I think after speaking um to Mr.

Friedman recently, I'm just gonna go and say the request is for demo.

Keep it real straightforward.

Um with you know, the plan to maybe rebuild something similar later.

But for now it's STEMO.

It is uh viewable from the street as it's on the corner lot.

I uh I I drove by there on that again on draw around the back side of that.

And um I agree, I like your strategy.

That's the only part that's visible when the gate is open.

It's right.

You can't hardly see it.

And when you do lift up your camera to take a picture of it, it it looks like kind of an extended um uh in disrepair trader unit.

Uh Jim, I saw him in the street and ask him about it, and then he told me a little bit of the history.

Uh was uh uh horse carriage house.

Carriage house.

And uh and so as I was driving down here, I was thinking, you know, it's demo, partial demo, it's that in between, and go I'm thinking, well, if it gets in a partial, you know, maybe we there's partial use of what's there, but maybe why not go clean uh and just do you know, and then demo it and then build whatever that's that's workable, and that if um if it's and and they can tell us if it's outright demo, if it's uh that it's for city council to to approve this as a demo.

So we can demo we could approve that here.

Yeah.

Then okay then well, I would have proposed uh I would I would make a motion to approve demolition.

Second.

Second.

Any other discussion?

All those in favor.

Okay.

Good job.

There you go, Victoria.

Good luck.

Thank you all.

I appreciate it.

Well, thank you for the nice applications.

Okay, 551 Church Street.

How are you all?

Uh my name is Branson Bowling.

Um, I own Good Boys Roofing and Exteriors.

We are the contractors selected by the Stafford family at 551 Church Street.

Um their roof has been approved by their insurance carrier.

It will just be an upgraded product.

The color will not change.

So I do the pictures of the shingles are not included in this PDF.

I do have them on my iPad as well if there's a way to show the color.

Or bring it up to the board.

But they're gonna match the existing.

Okay.

Um their second request.

So those two metal barrel dormers that are on the second story front side of their home, it currently does not serve as useful attic space.

So you can see the home to the right of theirs, how they have those three dormers with the windows.

They would like to extend their dormers to be taller and slightly wider to mirror those of adjacent homes to the right and across the street.

So that way it can actually use it as useful attic space.

Um the windows will match the existing, so that is the rendering of what it were to look like.

The windows will be the exact match.

They currently have board and batten siding on the backside of their home.

You can't see from the street, you can only see the three-sided brick from the street.

Um so the material will not change based off what's on the property.

It will be an exact match, and the color will be exact match to their existing paint as well.

What will the window frames be made of?

Um I believe their existing windows are wood frames.

And the third is their front porch.

If you can go back to the original photo that prior to the rendering, they have um rusted iron metal spindles and railings.

So it's starting to leave staining on that rolled roofing section.

So they want to remove the older rotten, rusted iron spindles and replace them with either a wood or a cement-based product and paint to match their existing trim as well.

But just the top railings.

Correct, yes, sir.

There are no railings on the first story on the front porch.

Well, I will uh tell you I live three houses away from that.

And I've never liked those barrel normers.

Ever.

Um I just I just don't like it.

I mean, uh sometimes you go here with what you you approve what you might not prefer, and sometimes you just really don't like it.

Um I uh uh you're gonna match that house right next to it, basically, in the style.

It looks a lot more uh fit in with the rest of the neighborhood, so uh I'm good with that as well.

Also on my house, I happen to have uh railings on the top of the first floor.

Um and there are others in the neighborhood who have you know a white railing on either the first or the second floor.

And if you've described a problem that happens with the metal construction that you just described, there is both the appearance issue and also the the physical aspect of it, uh the impact it has.

Yes, sir.

So I think that in terms of substituting your alternate for what is there, it also would look good.

I mean, the uh the metals it can be a nice thing.

You walk up to it there, it's you know, middle hand running can be really nice.

It's up away from the street, it's upside, it's up there.

It would be a little bit more distinctive and appealing to have that look, I think, than keeping the metal.

I wouldn't think to change it, walking.

I don't have a problem with them, like I do the the barrel dormers, but I think it would look better now that you mentioned it.

So I would be good with that.

Yeah, their whole idea was kind of too.

Theirs is the one of the newer homes that was built in 2005.

It was trying to mirror kind of some of the historical homes surrounding it.

It was really, it was uh it was a rationalization of the whole thing, yes, but I would make a motion to approve uh the application that's uh provided.

Any other discussion?

All those in favor to go, thank you.

Thank you all.

Yeah.

Okay, we have one more item.