0:01Welcome to our Mesa City Council meeting for March 9th, 2026.
0:05Councilmember Adams is unable to attend and is excused.
0:09All other council members are present.
0:11With that, we'll begin this meeting with an invocation by Pastor Jose Luis Amaya at the Iglesia de Cristo, Elim Bethel Church, followed by a pledge of allegiance.
0:22Pastor Amaya, please come forward.
0:30Nice to remember January 7th, 2025.
0:38More than a year ago.
0:39And it's a blessing, you know, to see you, and then I was giving you a strength for the whole year, three more years to come.
0:47You want to be full of blessings and strength.
0:51Father, we thank you for this day and for everything you have done, and for you as the glory, the honor and the praise.
0:58Thank you for every one of uh all the members of the council and their families and also all the institutions of the city.
1:07We thank you for this moment, and we ask you to guide him all the time, give encouraging and strength, and give him knowledge, understanding, and mainly wisdom to deal with all the necessities of this city.
1:20In the name of Jesus Christ, we thank you again.
1:26Are there Boy Scouts here?
1:27They were gonna lead us in our Pledge of Allegiance.
1:32Come forward, please.
1:38Now, if I'm correct, you're from Pac 10 and Troop 484.
1:46You want to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.
1:49I clause allegiance to the United States of America.
1:55And to the Republic, for which it stands, why nation, under God, individual for liberty, and justice for all.
2:06Thank you, Troop 484.
2:16So item one is the consent agenda.
2:19Christopher, if you'll come forward and read the consent agenda.
2:22What I have now currently 4B, C, F off Cent, 5A, B off consent, and 6A off consent, 7A off consent.
2:356A and 7A are on consent or off.
2:43Good evening, Mayor and Council members.
2:44These are the items in the consent agenda.
2:45All items listed with an asterisk will be considered as a group by the city council.
2:49And will be enacted with one motion.
2:51There will be no separate discussion unless the council member or citizen request, in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considered as a separate item.
2:59Item two, approval of minutes of previous meetings is written.
3:02Item 3A, acting liquor license application for Zach's Cigar Bar, 7310 East Main Street.
3:08Item 4A, approving dollar limit increase to the term contract for landscape maintenance services for city facilities for the facilities management department.
3:16Items 4B and 4C have been removed from the consent agenda.
3:19Item 4D, approving three-year term contract with two-year renewal options for traffic signal loop detection installment services for the transportation department.
3:27Item 4E, approving three-year term use of a cooperative contract for pavement management services for the transportation department.
3:33Funding will be from either the local street sales tax or the highway user revenue fund.
3:38Item 4F has been removed from the consent agenda.
3:41Items 5A, 5B, 6A, and 7A have all been removed from the consent agenda as well.
3:46Mayor and Council members, these are the items on the consent agenda.
3:52I'll uh entertain a motion to approve.
3:57All right, thank you, Mr.
3:58Eddie, and thank you, Miss Duff.
4:00Please cast your vote.
4:05It passes uh unanimously with Mr.
4:16Uh 4B is a dollar limit increase to the term contract for safety and medical supplies for Mesa Police and Public Safety Support Department Citywide.
4:25I have two speakers, uh Mr.
4:27Reggie Brown and Noah James Reggie.
4:30You're up first, followed by Noah.
4:47Uh I'm gonna be speaking for a few times today, so I wanted to just review who I am with everyone and why I do this.
4:55It's gonna it's gonna apply, believe me.
4:57My name is Reggie Braun.
5:00I'm a data engineer with over 25 years of data management experience.
5:02I've worked for industries, regging from nonprofits and universities to defense contractors like Warquell Animation.
5:09I often provide statistics on risk and gap analysis as well as forecasting trends and other insights the data can provide.
5:16ScottConn, the city of Mesa CIO, who has many more experience than I have.
5:22Reggie, I need to stop you.
5:24You need to talk about the safety and medical supplies for Mesa police, not Mr.
5:29You need to stay on that topic, that agenda.
5:31I just need to give my legitimate.
5:33I just want to give my qualifications.
5:35You do that every time.
5:36We're familiar with your qualifications.
5:39I don't get a response from you guys, you know.
5:41So I want you to stay on the topic, please.
5:43Uh so what I've noticed in a lot of like when I did last time with the MLB thing is I notice a lot of these contracts tend to have a lot of verbiage, which I'm familiar with, which kind of is true, but obfuscates some of the data.
5:56And in this particular one, if we're talking about law enforcement and the um safety and medical supplies and statistics, uh, I'm trying to find it here.
6:07How much are we asking for the one-time deal?
6:10A couple for $700,000 or something like that.
6:13Um, this is going to be like a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of dollars we have in the next few agenda items.
6:19But including things like ballistic helmets and shields kind of gives me pause when we talk about the fact that we're talking about medical and safety.
6:26It kind of makes me think more of we're talking about militarization.
6:30Um, whether or not those should be included in this, I haven't done that much research.
6:34But again, it seems to put a priority on the militarization.
6:40Now, we've already talked about how successful our crime statistics are.
6:44We've already reduced violent crime, and I am going to talk again about sexual assault.
6:49And so, therefore, I'm wondering in this and the others, how much further we need to invest in either militarization and or single source contracts that inflate the budget.
7:02And I'll stop there because I know I'm gonna talk more.
7:06All right, thank you, Reggie.
7:08Uh Noah James, uh, you're on item 4B.
7:18Aloha um Mayor and to the rest of the city council.
7:23My name is uh Noah James Markham.
7:26Um I'm from the great city of Tempe.
7:29Um, so this item right here of 4B.
7:32Um, I think I heard in your study session that um the wonderful Greg Staten um helped fund some of this stuff.
7:42So um, you know, I I don't know what Noah, he did not fund any of this.
7:46So stay on this topic, please.
7:49He he did do he did give you some money for something, right?
7:53That's a different agenda.
7:54Right, but it still ties into it.
7:57Um yeah, and so I have uh a concern about face mask.
8:04And that sounds like what the ICE agents have been doing, is they've been putting face masks on.
8:11I don't know what kind of face mask you're talking about.
8:14These face masks are for biohazard when people are interacting with each other in medical situations, so that's what the purchase is for protection.
8:24It'd be similar to what nurses and doctors would wear in emergency room.
8:29That's interesting because it that seems unsafe.
8:33Um, especially um if you said it's it's it's for nurses and doctors.
8:40I mean, that is something that ICE does too.
8:42They have masks just like that too.
8:44Um, but this I do not like because I don't trust the Mesa Police Department, especially with people with disabilities.
8:54And this, if I I don't think you should find this if you cannot even protect people with disabilities.
9:02Um, and so yeah, that's why I don't think Mesa, you know, I had an instant today that they did an awful job at.
9:10And so I don't think they should have this if they can't take care of special needs people like me.
9:17Thank you so much, Mahalo.
9:20Uh Council, uh I'll irritate a motion to approve item 4B.
9:24Dollar light limit increase term safety contract for safety and medical supplies.
9:30Second by Miss Go Forth.
9:32Please cast your vote.
9:394C, we have uh Reggie Braun is speaking on the use of cooperative contract for the purchase of 200 ballistic helmets, replacement for the Mesa Police Department.
9:53This is gonna be obviously related to it.
9:55Now, again, we have we have great law enforcement.
9:59Uh, we have great staff.
10:00I mean, whenever I talk about these things, I don't want to blame the police that puts in the ground.
10:04I'm not gonna blame the city clerk or the attorney.
10:08My first day in military history class, my captain was very clear to us.
10:14Enforcement, whether it be overseas or whatever, is done at the behest of the people in power.
10:19And forgive this parlance, it is a thing that said shit rolls downhill.
10:24When you make the priority for military and ballistic helmets, and you and we have a great violence rate, um violence crime reduction rate, and the sexual assault clearance rate is less than 12%.
10:37There's a misappropriation appropriation of resources.
10:41The impact that those things have, sexual assault and other things that are unsolved, I believe outweigh the need for ballistic helmets.
10:52If for sure we are combating violent crime effectively.
10:57Now, uh, as opposed to the also just the idea for the last one, I just want to be clear.
11:02Uh the Avon M50, their Air Airbus LBM, uh, they're not actually only for biohazard and surgic supplies.
11:10They're actually uh compact to fit under tactical uh face masks and helmet.
11:15They are actually tactical field operations under that last agenda item.
11:18These are high mobility, low profile units designed to be worn with ballistic helmets and kept agents.
11:26So again, I'm curious why we're kind of obfuscating these things and why we're bearing them in the agenda.
11:33Uh this is going to be a common theme with me because I have done this kind of deep dive, and it is frankly a little bit triggering.
11:41So let's talk about $400,000 increase for some of these uh line items.
11:49That could probably go to rate kits.
11:51That could probably go to people who are researching cases.
11:55That could definitely go to counseling services.
12:01Just to be aware, this is replacement of 200 ballistic helmets.
12:05With that, council, I'll entertain a motion to approve item 4C.
12:11Thank you, Miss Taylor.
12:12Thank you, Vice Mayor.
12:13Please cast your vote.
12:17Okay, motion passes unanimously with Mr.
12:23All right, moving on to 4F.
12:294F is a three-year term contract with two-year renewal options for traffic management systems, video wall upgrades, and replacement for our transportation department.
12:38Uh Reggie Braun is requested to speak on this.
12:47Uh, this is another situation where I've started getting into the details of these contracts, and I'm looking for some clarification.
12:54Uh, as you know, in the Super Bowl ad this year, there was a severe lash back against flock cameras and an involvement with the ring.
13:01Therefore, any kind of surveillance surveillance or traffic monitoring becomes an uh well uh freedoms and a privacy issue to everyone and especially the citizens of Mesa.
13:12So my really simple questions is that these are uh labeled as dual use.
13:19Does TMC data interface with federal enforcement?
13:24And if it does, is that voluntary?
13:28Is that done by a order, or is it somehow buried in logistics of the contract?
13:36This is a video wall upgrade for our transportation department only.
13:40I can't answer the rest of that, Mr.
13:42Do you have someone that would like to answer whether we interface with hearing part?
13:54You stay there, Reggie.
13:59Um good evening, Mayor, Council members, Eric Kaderian, uh the director for the transportation department.
14:05Um so this is for our video wall, the transportation management center.
14:10Uh we use our video feeds to to manage traffic in a real-time perspective.
14:15Um, we do share our video feeds with the police department and the real-time crime center.
14:20We don't know where the the feed goes after that.
14:28Braun, this is yours.
14:30That didn't answer my question.
14:31So we really need to know since it's already shared with law enforcement, and that we do know for flock cameras, public information is your license plate as well as the person driving.
14:40I would like to know under our rights, you know, for whether or not our data is shared with the government, how it's shared, and if it would be shared.
14:48You don't have to answer it now.
14:52All right, council entertain a motion to approve item four if through your term contract with two-year renewal options for traffic management system.
15:02Thank you, Vice Mayor.
15:03Miss Go Forth, please cast your vote.
15:175A is approving and authorizing the city manager.
15:20Is it designated to enter to a power purchase agreement, energy storage agreement with Panel Solar Project?
15:27Uh we have one speaker, Mr.
15:31Noah, if you'll come up.
15:40Aloha Mayor, and to the rest of the city council.
15:43Again, um, I just have a question.
15:45Is this um Panel Solar?
15:47Is it for Panell County or is it this?
15:50It's the name of the company.
15:51Oh, it's the name of the company.
15:52So it's not Panau County then.
15:54It's only in Pennell County, but it's Pennell Solar.
15:57It's only in Panawh County, that's what you're saying.
16:00The company names Pennell Solar.
16:03But it's not in Panaw County.
16:04It is in Pennell County.
16:07Um, yeah, so I love Penau County.
16:10It's a great city to live in.
16:14Um, because they illegally tried to put the 287 G agreement there with the attorney.
16:21Um, you know, so um, yeah, I I really like solar.
16:27I do like electric power.
16:29This is really good.
16:31Um, and yeah, hopefully this will help Pana because they are better than Mesa.
16:38I'll entertain a motion to approve item 5A.
16:43Thank you, Miss Duff.
16:45Thank you, Vice Mayor.
16:46Please cast your vote.
16:51Motion passes with Mr.
16:55Uh next we'll move on to I have 5B.
16:595B is approving authorizing city manager to enter to an intergovernmental agreement with Gilbert Unified School District number 41 for solid waste recycling collection.
17:09We have one speaker tonight, Noah James.
17:20Um, aloha mayor again and to the rest of the um city council.
17:25So um I really have a concern.
17:30I you guys are I don't know if you guys are gonna be involved with Gilbert Unified School District.
17:38Um, but you know, I love Gilbert, and that's where I live for a long time.
17:44And um I just don't trust Mesa, you know, coming and going into Gilbert.
17:52I just it's just seen.
17:53You don't trust us to pick up their trash?
17:55I don't trust you guys.
17:56I think Gilbert can do it because I don't trust you with the 287G.
18:00So um, yeah, I vote now.
18:04All right, please hold your clapping.
18:07Yes, just for clarity.
18:09The uh the city limits of Gilbert and Mesa are not the same as this as the school district limits of those same communities.
18:19So in my district, there are several high schools and grade schools, and that's what this contract is that we will pick up Gilbert School trash, but it's actually in the city of the city of Mesa.
18:34I'll entertain a motion for item 5B.
18:37Thank you, Vice Mayor.
18:38Second by Miss Duff.
18:40Please cast your vote.
18:45Motion passes with Mr.
18:50Next we'll move on to item 6A.
18:526A is a zoning case, Mesa Premier RV and both stories, phase two.
18:58Uh we have one speaker, Noah James.
19:13That's what you requested.
19:17And to the rest of the city council.
19:20Um you know, I did look at this, and Mesa, it's just interesting because I don't know why we need this.
19:31It's already owed stuff here.
19:34Like it just I don't know.
19:36I just don't like this.
19:37I mean, RV and boat storage facility, just it's I don't know.
19:44I don't think we need this here.
19:45I think it should be something else more exciting than this.
19:48If we're gonna use some kind of money here and Mesa, and I I reject this.
19:53So yeah, Mahlo, thank you so much.
20:00I'll entertain a motion to approve item six A, zoning case 24-01027.
20:06Thank you, Miss Taylor and Miss Goforth, please cast your vote.
20:11All right, the motion passes with Mr.
20:16Okay, item 7A is off consent.
20:19That is a ordinance proposing amendments to chapters 1 through 87 of the Title 11 Mesa City Code.
20:27I have one speaker, uh Reggie Braun.
20:44As far as I understand it, 7A is designed to save the city money by reducing the hours staff spend on public hearings.
20:56Uh so let me see here.
20:58Is this the zoning situation or is that a different one?
21:01I'm I'm which I'm confused which one's came off the consent agenda.
21:07This you request to speak on 7A, which is it does it cover the zoning?
21:13Does it cover the expansion of marijuana dispensaries?
21:19So then this is more about administration.
21:21Uh, did you do your research on this?
21:24I've done a lot of research, sir.
21:25When I do this work, it's off my own time.
21:28Normally for these kinds of three-minute talks, I charge about $1,500 to $3,000.
21:32So I'm sorry if I haven't done the complete deal, but I'm hoping that you give me clarity that you know these well enough.
21:39So let's just call it administrative friction and overhead.
21:42That you're trying to reduce those things.
21:44Um, I have been trying to get some PRRs done, which are public records done.
21:49Um, I am finding that there's some administrative overhead in getting those uh serviced.
21:53So when it comes to the idea that you're gonna reduce administrative overhead, I would really like there to be a uh a compliance with the ARS that says that uh the public should be getting the right to information in a timely manner.
22:09Currently, my PR is about 70 days late.
22:12So that's in violation of the IRS.
22:14I would like to see that added to something like this.
22:17If you're gonna focus on saying that we are going to reduce the kind of time for review for efficiency, then we should at least get responses to our emails, our uh notations, the city attorney, and the city clerk, which unfortunately I've never received despite three months.
22:32So it's about 70 to well, between 40 and 70 days.
22:41So these changes are administrative due to compliance with the Arizona revised statute code in the paragraph.
22:48So these changes are mandated by our state legislature.
22:51That's why we're doing that.
22:52So I'll entertain a motion to approve 7A.
22:57Thank you, Miss Duff.
22:58Thank you, Vice Mayor.
22:59Please cast your vote.
23:02Motion passes with Mr.
23:08With that, we'll move over to the items from citizen present.
23:12I have three speakers.
23:14Uh the first one is uh Leanne McGelvy.
23:18I hope I didn't mispronounce it.
23:20Leanne, please come forward with a Della Ramos uh on deck.
23:27You did say my name correctly.
23:30I'm originally from a small town in ASL from Azel, Texas.
23:36When I was about 22, I moved to Arizona, and today I'm proud to call the city of Mesa my home.
23:43Growing up in Texas, sorry.
23:46Growing up in Texas, I had a very clear and firm sense of right and wrong.
23:50In my mind, if you committed a crime, you were wrong and need to go to jail.
23:55But since moving to Arizona and opening myself up to new experiences and opening myself up to uh like new experiences and cultures, I realize that life isn't always as crystal clear as I once believed.
24:09I I have public speaking anxiety, I'm sorry.
24:12We all do, don't worry about it.
24:15I've learned that Tex Mex is definitely not Latino cuisine, that the world is bigger and more complex than I realize.
24:22So I started asking myself difficult questions.
24:25If a parent steals food, are they a horrible criminal?
24:28Or are they a parent doing what is necessary for their family to survive?
24:32If a student steals a tablet to be able to do work on to work on at home to do our homework at home, like are they heading down a dark path, or are they a child desperately trying to keep up in a system that aims to keep them in poverty?
24:46Some might say they should just use the programs available to help.
24:50The reality is either those programs are either full, not enough funding, difficult to apply for, or getting shut down.
24:58While learning new things, I have changed my ways of thinking.
25:01Like, why can't why can't anyone else?
25:04Mayor Freeman, you were a fighter fighter for 31 years.
25:0831 years facing things others run away from.
25:11Our community is on fire due to 287G.
25:14This is your time to put this fire out and end this, like end it.
25:19Like it's your chance to save our community.
25:31Only difference between him and the people today is that he was considered a pioneer.
25:36Some of you have financial backgrounds.
25:40Like years, like years of financial background.
25:43So y'all should know the economic value of having immigrants living here.
25:48Look into the recent to me, it's recent, it's like a month ago.
25:52Um, publishing of Kate the Cato Institute article on how much immigration helps us, whether documented or undocumented.
26:02Wait, to everyone, I want to leave, I want to end it with this.
26:08Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.
26:15Thank you for your time and have a good day.
26:19We'll next hear from Adela.
26:21Adela Ramos, if she'll come forward, and then on deck is Michelle Cleveland.
26:27Adela, you have three minutes.
26:32Good afternoon, members of the council.
26:35I am a junior high student here at Mesa.
26:37I live in this community and I care deeply about what happens in our city.
26:41Today I am not speaking from anger.
26:43I am speaking from concern.
26:44Concern rooted in the love for Mesa and the responsibilities many families feel right now.
26:50Mesa already has a 287G agreement with ICE.
26:53As you know, this agreement is supposed to only focus on people who are already in custody.
26:57But what we're seeing in our neighborhoods goes beyond that.
27:00And the result is fear.
27:02Fear of calling the police, fear of asking for help, fear even when someone is a victim of a crime.
27:07And when fear walks in the door, safety walks out the window.
27:10I want to be very clear.
27:12Enforcing the law matters.
27:13No one here is asking for the law to be ignored.
27:16But the city of Mesa should not be doing immigration work that belongs to the federal government.
27:20Our local police should be focused on protecting our neighborhoods, preventing crime, and making sure people feel safe reporting crimes so they can be solved.
27:29Law enforcement cannot do their job well if part of our community is too afraid to speak up.
27:33Because when a mother hesitates to call 911, when a victim of domestic violence chooses to stay silent, when a witness refuses to report what they saw, it is not only the immigrant families who suffer, the entire city is suffering.
27:48Mesa becomes less safe for everyone.
27:55Abraham Lincoln held a divided nation together by appealing our shared humanity.
27:59Martha Luther King Jr.
28:01reminded us that there could be no peace without justice.
28:04Cesar Chavez taught us that human dignity is not negotiable.
28:08That is the United States that many of us still believe is possible.
28:12Right now, our country feels more divided than ever.
28:15That's why local decisions matter so much.
28:18You have the power to either build trust or break it.
28:20And if we don't act now, the damage will be deep and lasting, not only for the families who are afraid today, but for the future generations who inherit a city where neighbors don't trust the people who swore to protect them.
28:34So today I'm asking you.
28:37So today I'm asking you to leave with conscience and courage.
28:40Please take action to ensure that Mesa police is focused on local public safety, not immigration enforcement.
28:47Cancel the 287G agreement with ICE and set clear boundaries that protect the trust between law enforcement and the community.
28:55Because a city that only protects some is not a safe city.
28:58And a city that governs through fear loses its soul.
29:02Mesa could be Mesa could be a city where the police and community walk together, not against each other, where safety is built on trust, not fear.
29:11Thank you for listening.
29:13Next we'll hear from you can snap your fingers.
29:20Let's reduce the clapping, please.
29:25Good evening, Mayor Freeman, Council members.
29:28Thank you very much for giving me this time to express the opinions of a legal immigrant, a very proud, naturalized citizen of this country.
29:39My family waited in line in a refugee camp in Italy.
29:44We were refugees for almost a year, hoping that the wonderful country of the United States of America would allow us the privilege of coming to live here.
30:00There are thousands of people, millions of people over the years who have waited in line patiently.
30:06The lawbreakers who are too afraid to call the police should go home to their country of origin where they belong.
30:28We listen like everybody else.
30:32There are so many hundreds of us, City of Mesa residents who are too busy with our daily lives, taking care of our children, and working our jobs to come here and speak.
30:49I am a resident of the city of Mesa, unlike a lot of people who have come here to express a contrary opinion.
30:57I believe there are more residents of the city of Mesa who believe the police should do the job of policing.
31:06But also all your comments, all laws should be respected.
31:13And if someone is here illegally, and they are actually the resident of another country, they should go home.
31:23And if they break additional laws, that should be expedited.
31:28They do not belong here.
31:30Those of us who waited in line are disrespected.
31:35Those of us who waited in line are hurt.
31:41How many thousands of people that are waiting in line are not going to get the opportunity because other people jumped the line, broke the law, and came here illegally.
31:54By supporting illegals here, you are supporting a slave class of people who are underpaid because they're paid under the table.
32:30Thank you, Michelle.
32:45We want decorum here, please.
32:50Miss Mosley, is there anyone that I missed in this part of it?
32:54No, Mayor, that was all of the requests for tonight.
32:58With that, uh counsel, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
33:02Thank you, Vice Mayor.
33:03Thank you, Miss Gulf.
33:04All in favor say aye.