Good evening, everyone.

And welcome to the Tuesday, October 14th, 2025, regular city council meeting for the City of Mesquite.

It is 5 p.m.

and we are going to get started with an invocation by Pastor Bob Brugman of the Prince of Peace Lutheran Church.

Thank you, Mayor.

Let us pray.

Almighty and most compassionate God, Heavenly Father, beloved Son, our Helper and our Comforter.

We give thanks for the very gifts that you have generously and graciously graciously lavished on our City Council for the ongoing administration and support of our citizens.

Cause them to act on every opportunity for faithful service.

Pour the Holy Spirit upon them and all that are here, that everything we think, say, and do are for your glory and the good of this city.

In the blessed name of Jesus, our beloved, your beloved son and our Lord and Savior.

Amen.

Thank you, Pastor.

And I'd ask that you all please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Pledge.

One nation.

Under God, indivisible.

And now we are going to have the uh presentation of the two 2025 SOAR Award.

Good evening, Mayor Whipple and City Council and everyone in the audience.

It's my honor to present again, because we've already done it in Vegas.

The annual SOAR Awards, which is safety officer award recognition, started 25 years ago.

The problems the program SOAR was created to honor the ordinary officer who day in and day out performed his or her job in an outstanding manner.

He or she is not necessarily a hero in the sense of the world.

Rather, that that person is a quiet hero who does an excellent job at what he or she is hired to do.

The goal was for all of Southern Nevada clubs to work together on this project.

It started in 2000 with eight agencies, and it has grown to over 20.

With the help of the agencies, we have been able to, as a whole, honor and thank over a thousand men and women who exemplified the Rotary Mantra of Service Above South.

This year, our respective awards presented at the SOAR event in Vegas for police and fire will be read by Chief Fails and Chief Andris.

If you guys will join me.

Good evening, Mayor and Council members of the public.

On Friday, January 17th, 2025, at 3 30 p.m., Mesquite Fire Rescue is dispatched to assist Clark County Department Station 71 with a confirmed structure fire in Bunkerville.

While in route, dispatch advised that Cork County Fire Engine 71 was responding with only one firefighter.

That firefighter was Mesquite Fire Rescue's own captain Keith Browning, who was off duty at the time.

Captain Browning resides in Bunkerville and has volunteered with CCFD Station 71 for the past 19 years.

Upon arrival, Captain Browning immediately assumed incident command.

He identified a down power line in front of the home, secured a water supply, placed the engine in pump, and initiated a defensive fire attack, acting alone until additional units from Mesquite arrived.

Although the structure was a total loss, the fire did not extend to neighboring properties and no injuries were reported.

According to national standards, a minimum of 16 firefighters is recommended to safely and effectively perform the critical task required at a single family structure fire.

In rural Nevada, however, the response often occurs with far fewer resources.

Tonight Mesquite Fire Rescue proudly recognizes Captain Browning for his decisive action, leadership, and unwavering commitment to the safety of our community.

His response to this incident is a testament to his professionalism, dedication, and the value he brings to the fire service.

Thank you.

Jason's younger than me.

He doesn't need glasses.

Okay.

Around June of 2024, Sergeant Stout was at the police department speaking to a dispatcher Carrie Roberts.

Dispatcher Roberts informed Sergeant Stout that she had been, she had heard through a family friend that a local female had given birth the night prior.

The female was well known to law enforcement as a drug abuser.

Sergeant Stout had received information from various sources that the female was actively using illegal drugs throughout the pregnancy, and that she had made comments that the baby's welfare was not a concern of hers.

She had also avoided seeing a doctor throughout her pregnancy.

Sergeant Stout confirmed through additional sources that the baby had been born, and he began investigating the location to provide the newborn with medical attention.

Throughout the morning, Sergeant Stout attempted to contact the persons involved in the locations he believed the baby might be.

However, there was little to no response.

That same morning, Officer Ruth began his shift and also had information about the baby's birth.

Sergeant Stout and Officer Ruth continued to search for the baby and speak with anybody who may have information about its whereabouts.

Officer Ruth talked to an anonymous source and learned that the baby was born in a trailer, which Sergeants, which Sergeant Stout had visited earlier that morning.

Upon returning to the trailer, Officer Ruth and Sergeant Stout made contact with the occupants.

The officer, Officer Ruth, and Sergeant Stout learned the baby was born in the trailer and abandoned by its mother.

The tenant contacted the baby's grandmother, who took the baby in the middle of the night.

Sergeant Stout and Officer Ruth went to the grandmother's home and located the baby at approximately 3 30 p.m.

Upon expecting the baby, it was up, it was an obvious distress.

Based on their observations, they did not believe the baby had eaten since birth.

Due to the grandmother's diminished mental capacity and her ability, inability to care for the newborn, mesquite fire and rescue were contacted and immediately transported the baby to Macy View Hospital.

Shortly thereafter, the baby was life lighted to Sunrise Church, Sunrise Children's Medical Center.

Nurses at sunrise told the officers the baby would not have survived another night.

The combined diligence, perseverance, and compassionate intervention of dispatcher Carrie Roberts, Sergeant Jamie Stout, and Officer Stetson Ruth were directly responsible for preventing a tragic outcome and ensuring that a vulnerable newborn received life-saving medical attention.

Their actions reflect immense credit upon themselves and the Mesquite Police Department.

And for this, they are well deserving of this award.

The fire department won at Mud Volleyball.

Did you have a present?

Come on forward if you got a presentation.

If you're not already aware, Citizen Action attends regularly attends city council meetings to monitor the actions and decisions of city council.

Anne, is this a presentation or is this a public comment?

It's a public comment presentation.

Okay.

Okay, hold on.

Hold on one second.

I'm gonna have you come back up.

Okay, sorry.

We haven't started the public comment meeting quite.

Oh, quite yet.

So Dominic, would you please come forward?

Thank you, Mayor Dominic Olivetto.

I'm here to make an announcement for the Vietnam Veterans Chapter 993.

On November 1, we will be having the Chili Cook-Off for a fundraiser.

We are a nonprofit, and all the money to keep the system going is all donations from town.

At this time at the Chili Cook Off, you can come down, taste chili.

And if you're a good cook, yeah, heck, even if you're a bad cook, bring your chili down, give us a couple of bucks, and we'll let you throw it out there to taste it.

In addition to that, my wife, a real good cook, is going to make a bunch of chili and sit outside so you can get a bowl of chili in addition to that.

There will be some things to uh silent auction bids.

We have two helicopter rides and one real nice helicopter.

The guy that flies the helicopter says it's a two-hour flight, but the last time I had him take somebody out, they came back five hours later, and it took them two days to quit smiling.

Uh both of these rides will take three normal-sized people, or if it's uh man and wife and smaller children, four will fit in there.

Addition to that, we have some other prizes from do it best that have been donated.

Uh, and a lot of things at the silent auction.

There'll be live music in that there.

You can get the information to sign up for the chili cook-off part on our website.

Uh, the Vietnam veterans.

Boy, I blew that.

Uh Mesquite Veterans Center's website.

Go ahead, Bill.

Just go ahead.

Throw something at me.

Uh, and that we hope to see everybody there.

I mean, it'll be a good time and live music.

Uh, I was told these this couple that's gonna play is a really good band.

And if it gets too bad and is not entertaining, Bill is offered to dance on the table for us.

Thank you, Mayor.

That happens.

You donate quite a bit to see that.

Yeah.

You throw down a big enough check, we'll put him up on the table.

Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you, Nominic.

Do we have any other presentations?

Okay, with that, we will mayor, City Council.

My name is Steve Reynolds.

I'm the commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars post 7385.

I've talked to Chief Andreas, and uh this year our annual flag retirement ceremony is gonna be at the Mesquite Veterans Center on the 25th of November.

Or yeah, no, October, I'm sorry.

And from 9 o'clock.

Um I'm no more responsible for the center because we have a gentleman sitting up here that thinks he's responsible now.

But I encourage everybody to come out and turn out.

And uh last year was kind of a bad day because we had the volleyball tournament or the mud volleyball tournament the same day.

So we're kind of fighting for people, but anyway, I've got uh quite a few flags for everybody to donate and uh from there.

So thank you, council.

Thank you, Steve.

With that, we will go ahead and start the opening public comment period.

Um, this comment period is for things that are not on the agenda.

But other than that, please please come forward.

You have three minutes.

Thank you, Ann.

Okay, so uh I I've already introduced myself.

Good to be here today.

Uh, and I did mention that uh Citizens Action Group does regularly come to the city council meetings to see what's happening in our city.

At the last uh meeting on Tuesday, September 23rd, there was a discussion on future plans for the city interspructure.

And I was very, very happy to hear that the city is adding a conservation element to the master plan.

Much to my disappointment, I was advised that there was also discussion at the city council to hook up the new hotel that's being built to the gas lines.

Uh, I will concede that this hotel is probably right next to the gas lines that have already been put in.

But I'm concerned that many of us don't want to see the continued building of more gas lines to provide energy for new housing and other new building projects in Mesquite.

Citizens Actions is concerned that the City Council will continue to approve more gas lines, in spite of overwhelming expert scientific evidence that climate change is happening and fossil fuels are the culprit.

This is also in spite of the fact that the city of Mesquite had and likely can still have an electric-powered city infrastructure without any gas lines.

And finally, this is in fact in spite of the fact that alternate energy sources are actually becoming less expensive than fossil fuels.

And if the city plans to return to the original infrastructure plan, which included electric hookups for energy needs.

Thank you, Ann.

And I I I brought a little sign for you.

Mother Earth is concerned.

Thank you, Ann.

Sue Hanks, Mesquite citizen.

And I hate coming up here at this time after the police and the fire have just received some awards for doing something really great.

But I had an issue that has been going on for about six months and came to a head yesterday morning concerning the police department.

And I am extremely upset about it.

We have in our neighborhood, we have been complaining for about six months about a person that lives down the street that goes 40, 50, 60 miles an hour with his glass packs and his motorcycle and whatever else is making noise, and you have probably heard it.

I have heard it many times.

Okay.

And we have called and called and called, and we have gotten no response.

Yesterday, he was, they have the machine set up.

He was doing 70 miles an hour in a 25-mile zone.

The first officer that came out, I cannot fault that officer.

He knocked on the door.

The man did not answer the door.

He refused to answer the door.

There was nothing else that the officer could do.

But he was courteous enough to come back and talk to us that were out in the street waiting for an answer.

About an hour and a half later, I called again.

I was told there is an officer on the way.

35 minutes later, I'm waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.

And I finally called again.

And they said, Oh, well, she went by and she didn't see the car, so she just left.

Excuse me, why did she not come talk to me?

And if she didn't see the car, it was for one of several reasons.

Either that was a family or a friend of hers, or she wasn't looking because the car was parked in plain sight, and I could have pointed it out to her.

But she couldn't be bothered with talking to me.

Now I'm sorry.

That is totally and completely out of line.

And I honestly believe that that particular officer should be fired because we are paying her salary for her not to do her job.

And that's what I've got to say.

Thank you, Sue.

Dominic Olivetto again.

By the way, mayor and council, thank you.

I did condense this.

I think I could make it in three minutes, so you don't have to have the guy with the badge and guns throw me out.

I was looking forward to it, Dominic.

Dang it.

I've got six items here, and uh take them for what they're worth.

This is just, I've been coming to these meetings for a long time, and these are the same things I hear all the time.

Number one thing I hear is about the rats.

I believe this has been going on long enough, and for research I've done, I believe the board of the health could come in and condemn this property, and then hazmat could go in and clean it all up and get rid of it.

Uh that's number one, they'll cut it short.

Number two, I am so tired of hearing about the nightclub in the theater.

I mean, if these people were using anybody in this room's driveway or backyard for a bathroom, you'd do something about it.

Now I don't know who's right, whether Mr.

Kim's right or they're right.

I have no idea.

But I think the police department could go up to this nightclub on Friday and Saturday night and write a bunch of tickets.

I don't know, does the city get part of the profit from these tickets?

We need some money, so write these people up.

At least it'd stop that part of it.

And then the city needs to sit down with these people and make an agreement and get it all settled.

Uh I from what I understand, we don't have a planning and zoning committee.

I think we need one, and the reason I say that is because the driving range should not be an issue right now.

The fence and everything on that should have been laid out when they went for the first permit to do the work.

Uh and I don't mean this to be non-religious because I believe if there's enough members for the LDS church to build a new church, that's great.

But they're a recent example.

We shouldn't have somebody from the audience coming up and saying this is going to be 176 feet high, and I might be wrong on that.

That should have been brought up.

The presentation made to you people.

I believe we need a planning and zoning board of some independent people to go over all this stuff, and then it comes up to Mr.

Kim's and Mr.

Anderson to look at after that.

I believe that we need people to do more due diligence.

I mean, when we give an out-of-state contractor a 90% discount on a piece of land and he can't get a loan, will you guys give me that land for that same price?

Because I'm sure if I walk in the bank and say, hey, give me 170,000, I got 1.7 million in collateral.

Not only will they kiss me, they'll pack the money to my car.

Uh boy, this one here, my wife told me I couldn't say this one, but I'm going to anyway.

Whenever you guys have a meeting, whether it's behind closed doors or whatever, don't have it.

Just record it and play it.

Because I'm tired of every time one of you has a meeting.

Three people come up here and say, I got a recording of what you said and quote it.

And we don't know if they're quoting out of context or you're quoting out of context.

So just play it on the video on the website.

Uh and this one here's a real sickening wish.

Can we end the deal with the chief?

I mean, this is getting tiresome.

That's well over a year.

Thank you for your time.

Dominic.

Oh, you turned off the time.

You ran out, but I let you go.

Oh, I did.

Yeah.

Oh man, my wife, I practiced this for an hour.

You were real close, though, Dominic.

You were really close.

But Karen Rogina, I've been uh sheet huh?

Carol?

Karen.

Karen.

Okay.

No, I always sound the wrong one to say it.

Anyway, what I'd like to do is share my thoughts on opening comments.

I feel that many statements are made in opening comments.

Should be about how to help city council as a whole and everybody.

I'm really tired of people coming up with personal attacks.

A one-on-one attack that isn't addressing a need.

But and a lot of times in three minutes, they can't tell the whole story.

So it comes out with snippets that make it look the way they want it to look.

And I don't feel that's fair.

For an example, Mayor, sorry.

When you were talking to the MPD, you made the comment better the devil you know.

Without any context to the whole speech or talk that you had.

It was twisted in so many ways.

Some saying you were taught attacking officer fails.

Some were saying that you it was just an expression, some saying you did not care.

You just want this to go on forever.

But they need to hear the whole thing, not a snippet and make a whole I was gonna say bitch session, but that's what it turns into be.

Complaining about everybody.

Um it's pretty crazy.

And then speaking of offers fails, he's been an officer for over 26 years, interchief for 10 months, no major recorded replay to the last 10 months.

Yes, the events of 15 years ago keeps bringing brought up in snippets again on here on the Facebook on that mesquite tales, but just pieces of it.

No one tells the whole story.

I feel if you weren't there, you didn't see it all, shut up.

It's kind of like he was saying with recordings when they only give that little piece, you don't get the whole story.

And I know no matter what any of you ever say, half the city's gonna like it, half the city's gonna hate it.

That's just you know, to consider yourself a ref.

I also feel like he said, the city manager can need to get a police chief in place.

And I I have to like officer fails.

I have no problem with that.

And maybe just a two-year contract.

And at the end, we go, hey, you suck, get out of here.

Go away, we're done.

But if we bring someone in from the outside, they might want five or more if they're gonna move their whole family here.

And if they suck after a year or two, what are we stuck firing them, paying them out, all of that all over again?

And I'm not picking on Officer Chesley at all.

But that bridge has been burned.

There's been too much happening, no matter how it turns out, it'll never work that he can come back as chief.

We all anybody with common sense knows that.

So I really wish that we could get that settled and taken care of.

And one other thing, I just want to say thank you to the members that when they vote, say I or nay out loud, because some of us are at home cooking dinner, fixing meals, and we're just listening in the background.

It would be nice if the other one spoke up too, because you can't hear the TV ding, the answer.

Thank you.

Thank you, Karen.

Mayor, Council Citizens.

I'm Steve Dudrow from the public arts commission.

And I want to talk about First Friday.

And if anybody who went, well, it was a rousing success, I believe.

Okay, and I wanna give kudos.

And they won't take three minutes long.

So I want to thanks um to Judy Cole White and it's Mitzi Bender for all the work they did in leading the committee to get that going.

Um, the MPAC commissioners for their leadership, Martin, Randy Lau, thank you for their work.

You guys were incredible.

Um, Chris and Dottie from the Virgin Valley Artist Association.

Um, the art the Mesquite Fine Arts that it was was just hopping that night.

It was great.

Um, Susie Richard from the theater, um Jesse Karen for attending, maybe others, but I saw you guys.

And you know what?

I've never met or talked to the volunteer police.

They're the nicest group of people, and they did such a great job on Yucca Street.

Okay, they really kept things going, and they said, Do you want us to block it?

And I said, I don't think you can block it, but we'll talk about that later.

So um, the next first Friday is November 7th and December 5th.

And thanks, everybody.

Thanks, Steve.

Hi, good evening, honorable mayor and members of the council.

My name is Amy Valdez.

This is my sister, Carrie Vandivigate.

Um, and we have recently become the owners of our dad's house on Lolita Lane here in Mesquite.

Um, he lived there for about 15 years or so, and we just lost him in December.

Um we're here tonight to request a conditional use permit for a short-term rental on the property.

Um, and it's on the agenda later in the night.

So I didn't know if you wanted to hear my comments now or so, yeah.

You'll need you'll need to wait.

Yeah.

So this this is for items that are not on the agenda.

Okay, sorry about it.

Yeah, not a problem.

Yeah, see you soon.

Thank you, Amy Carrie.

It's by the movie theater over right over there.

Oh, and uh Desert Rose.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, hi, I'm Patty Ahrens.

I live behind the rat house.

Um I have a couple questions.

Where do the rats go after they've gone into the bait box and they come out?

Where do they go?

Um, we removed them.

Huh?

We removed them.

Who removes them?

Uh animal control.

Those are the ones in the traps, but there's bait boxes where they go in and they eat the bait and they go out.

And that's what some of the companies are doing, you know, do.

And I yeah, right now uh we hired the past con uh pest control company, and they uh manages it.

So they go and clean it up, okay.

Um that was my question.

Do we have numbers of how many rats have been trapped or collected or whatever anymore?

Probably right now, about 600.

It's uh a little bit over that, about seven hundred and something almost.

It was seven hundred and some last time, it's almost eight hundred now.

Okay.

It was like 657 last meeting or something.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

And before we started, I talked to Mr.

Kim about the backyard cleanup and the camper, which has not been gone in yet.

He said that's happening in a week, maybe two, I hope a week.

Um the fake trees are still there that the poor rats are probably still nested in, and it stinks.

And when the tree removal people took the trim the trees, they had to wear double masks.

It was that bad.

So, and I know that you have sprayed some disinfectant and some um deodorizer, but that only lasts a couple days.

And does that disinfectant help with the health hazard for all of us?

Uh we uh we have again uh we have another schedule coming in a week or two time.

Uh so at that time we're gonna inspect the inside of the house and inside of the uh trailer, and we're gonna uh clean both the inside and out this time.

Okay, and my final comment is like some of you, and I've talked with some people, and it may not be you guys in particular, but feel sorry for Sandy.

She does not treat people very nice, including her neighbors.

Um I just wonder what you would do if this was in your backyard.

What would you do if it was in your backyard?

That's that's my big thing because everything is still out there, it's still a mess.

She keeps bringing stuff from inside out still, so it's getting piled up again, and it's not getting anywhere.

Simon, um, I understand that she has filled eight or nine dumpsters already full of stuff.

Is that correct?

She's been cleaning up, and uh she asked us um uh to give her about four weeks at first.

So uh several weeks has been passed, so it'll be about one week or so uh is left.

Um she wanted to clean herself, uh, clean the inside by herself, and uh and then she's gonna let us in.

So right now we have no idea what's going on inside.

Okay.

So after the visiting the inside back again, we're gonna get uh uh estimates again, and then we're gonna have uh comprehensive inside and outside cleanup.

Okay, because since she started inside, she hasn't done anything outside.

It's and we've seen rats run across the patio.

It's yeah.

So I know we're trying.

Um it is private property.

You know, we are trying.

And the trees look great, and they did a good job with it, but you know, there still is stuff laying in the corner of her yard.

There's still stuff laying in this corner up on top of her roof.

It's all places for the rats to nest.

So that's the big thing.

Thank you, Patty.

Hello, uh Mayor, City Council.

I'm Dennis Aurons.

I live directly behind the house with the rats.

Um the backyard still needs a whole lot of work.

And nothing has been done in the backyard for two to three weeks.

Uh if you leave it the way it is for for a while, only have just many rats again that we've already taken out of there.

My wife and I were told by code enforcement they have no enforcement over the backyards in Mesquite.

Is that right?

Yes, anybody?

Yes, backyard is a private property.

We don't have any jurisdiction over private property.

Well, what are we gonna do?

What all the if people have all this stuff in a backyard and then these rats are nesting in it.

If it is if it is uh accumulate some kind of um the products or junks accumulated in the backyard, then that goes into the public health issues, so we do the code reinforcement work.

So there's no way to change that.

I mean, code enforcement has to have something to do here with some of this to keep this from happening again.

Just let us know what is the issues and um and we will visit there and uh take care of it.

Well, what happened this time?

Which property I talk about the red house?

Excuse me.

Are you talking about five, seven for Condor?

Oh, I'm talking about this house has got so bad.

Yeah, that's that is uh under uh actually progress right now.

So I told you that uh we will revisit the house in a week or two, and then we're gonna comprehendly clean up that house at that time.

When are they gonna clean up the backyard?

It'll be the same time.

Uh two to three weeks.

Yeah.

But now so what's gonna happen is um the owner is cleaning inside of the house right now.

So that's why you are seeing outside that's some of the chunk.

Uh so owners would probably uh bring that chunk out to the uh the backyard.

So after she cleaned the inside, we gotta have to revisit the inside and then see what's going on, and then de evaluate inside and outside.

That is that was the promise.

So we got the signed uh agreement from the owner uh about a few weeks ago.

So she agreed that the we uh after uh within the four week time we can revisit, and we're gonna uh do the inside and outside the evaluation, and we're gonna clean up and put that cost onto her lien.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Dennis.

Um I'm just gonna say right now that the public comment period is not meant to be a question and answer period, and and so going forth today.

Um go ahead and say what what you want to say, but but it's not gonna be a question and answer period.

Um, Mr.

Kim would be happy to answer anybody's questions if you call his office.

And I think he's been very clear of, but even on any other matters are coming forward.

I will ask you to make your comments and then go from there.

So Ron Thank you, Mayor, Council members, Ron Shackleford.

Um three things I want to address tonight.

Um the crosswalk in front of our new fire station.

If you're heading from that direction, going towards um Sand Hill, my wife crossed it recently, and she just about got hit.

Um the car actually stopped after the crosswalk.

She had already taken a step out.

And so I looked at that, and the sign that says stop here, right?

So there's the crosswalk, and then there's a white line, and there's a sign that says stop here.

Is there any way we can get that put back further with those signs?

So when they see those flashing lights, they don't pull right up to that line, which is also the crosswalk, because she almost got hit.

I mean, she actually took step, and the lady drove right past her and stopped after the crosswalk.

So that's one issue I'd like to see um our city address um possibility.

Um, Mayor, at a last meeting that we were both uh invited to speak at, we talked about the matrix of the discounts that we give our developers.

Um I just wanted to go on record in public and say that um let's see if we can't do something about that.

I mean, you you discussed it, we talked about it, and I'd like to see us do something about all the big huge discounts we're giving these developers for this property and stuff.

Um another thing that we um was um the population.

I know we have our we love our snowbirders.

I mean, they come into town and they keep us busy, a lot of small businesses and works.

We love them.

Um the population is 2,000, 22,500 roughly.

What is the population when these um when our snowbird friends come back into town?

I'm just kind of curious.

Do we have any idea how many people are in this community at that point in time?

Um, and if not, is there a way of finding out how many people are living in mesquite during the winter months?

Um, I'd like to see something, you know, some numbers if we could possibly work something out about that.

Um other than that, I think uh we have a new city manager being appointed tonight.

Okay, so hopefully that'll take care of some of these issues that some of these people are concerned about, and uh we'll see what happens from there.

But thank you for your time.

Thank you, Ron.

Good evening.

I'm very happy to be here.

And my name is Mitzi Bender, and I'm the president of the Virgin Valley Theater Group.

And um, I just have some happy things to report that I wanted to share with all of you, and thank you for all of the support.

So the first thing that was a success since we met since we were here, was that our show bye bye birdie was a great success.

Our ticket sales, our happy cast, um happy community.

It was just really the best thing that that we have done so far, and thank you, Mayor, for your participation and support.

Second of all, we had a donation from Mesquite Gaming that we want to thank them for about 400 pounds of fabric.

Well, this led to a really neat project, which we couldn't have been done without the collaboration of Randy Lobb and Hairo Vileo, Wes Carter, and uh and Jean, who's over the women's uh culture center, women's history and culture center.

So all of this collaboration got together because I went to them and asked them if we could make two closets into a sewing center.

And so this sewing center is going to be a place where we're going to teach master classes in costume design and building costumes for for our community, and um along with that, so that that was it's it's uh almost done now, and and you'll hear more about it.

Um also there was a great effort by these same people, the same collaboration team into preparing our performing spot for First Friday.

We now have a real event patio, and uh this morning the city has donated some stages for it.

There'll be two stages uh for children's uh stage and then the the patio stage.

And so this is a place where the community will be able to come and have open mic and test their their skills, their poetry, um, anything that they would like uh to do and share with with all of you and our community.

And what's really neat is that this is all happening against a background of an amazing idea that is being created right now, where we are developing an arts and historic center for mesquite, and to bring tourism, to bring opportunity to our community, and just to bring kindness to all of us, and so I just want to say thank you, thank you, thank you.

Thank you, Mitzi.

Good evening, Mr.

Mayor, members of council.

I come to you.

My name is Stephen Plant.

I come to you tonight because of the sad occurrence that occurred less than two weeks ago on OASIS Boulevard, bicycle car accident, a fatality.

I know anybody that drives in this city has seen the proliferation of electric bicycles, electric scooters, and now electric cycles.

I've tried to check and see if there are any code limits and in mesquite code.

The only one I can find is don't ride the bike on the sidewalk.

I believe we need to begin addressing these vehicles.

They're not pedal powered.

Many of them can easily go 30, 35, 40 miles an hour.

And again, if you've driven in the city of Mesquite, you've seen them just dart across traffic, don't stop at stop signs, just turn whenever they want to turn.

I would request that the city council, in addition to or a conjunction with city attorney, uh the police department, and even conceivably state officials to begin building some rules for these that can be enforced against these people to try to prevent the kind of tragic tragedy that occurred two weeks ago.

Thank you.

Thank you, Stephen.

Um Chiefs back there.

Will you guys start that?

Well, you don't need to come up, but will you start meeting on that and start that discussion?

Because that's not the first.

And maybe brainstorm some ideas that you can bring to us.

Okay, perfect.

Thank you.

Oh, I saw somebody coming forward.

Donna I emailed them a few weeks ago.

They're all ramping.

Okay.

I'm working on it.

Mayor Whipple and City Council, I'm Donna Vanita, a mosquite resident.

And I spoke before you at the September 23rd council meeting on the subject of the interim police chief.

And after doing so, there were some comments that were made of which I want to clear up.

The union shouldn't be able to pick their boss.

Having been a labor relations rep slash negotiator for 10 years for various union members, including school police, unions don't get to pick their boss.

In this case, the police chief will be picked by the city council.

Number two, the interim police chief doesn't have the education or the minimum standards for the position.

After 25 years on the job, he has more knowledge of this city and the position than any lousy little piece of paper will give you.

Number three, the interim chief has dropped the trunk retreat.

Really?

No, he hasn't.

It's been expanded.

The MPOA, the interim chief, it expanded to include the fire, the rec department, and other city departments.

Why would the person who started it, the interim chief, want to dump it after he started it in 2004?

Number four, have you checked the new programs that have started under your interim chief?

The coloring contest on Facebook, the new lead, which is a law enforcement agent, law enforcement against drugs, which includes bullying.

And now in ending, the interim police chief has been serving the city for 25 years.

He was assigned the position December 2024 till March 2025 at a captain's pay, which was four months.

Then in late March 2025, he was appointed by the city council to be the interim chief city police chief, and then given captain's pay plus 10%.

How much has the city saved for 10 months of having an interim chief in place doing the job of the police chief?

My point is quick, kicking the can down the road, do what was pulled off the agenda on June 24th.

Give the direction to the current city manager to pursue with the Mesquite Police Department, please police chief position.

Thank you.

Thank you, Donna.

Good evening, Mayor Council.

Mike Bennham.

I want to give a huge thank you to Bach, the animal shelter, and all the volunteers who wrote the rescue dogs up.

We got one.

Best dog probably will ever have.

Loves Debbie to death already.

So what does that tell you, right?

But they did a fabulous job.

I think there was five or six dogs got rescued that Saturday.

That's awesome.

It really is.

I know all the old fella, from what we understand, had been abused a little bit, but he's in, so that's a good thing.

One more thing.

I know there's a lot of rumors flying around about me.

And they're all true.

Yes, I had a meeting with the district attorney, Alan Ford.

So it's out.

You know it, I know it.

We had a very nice conversation.

So we'll leave it at that.

Good night.

Thanks, Mike.

Oh, you've already come up.

So I can't come back again.

No, you just get one time.

I'm sorry, Sue.

Oh well, then I'll come back next week and yell at you.

Okay.

How about if I come to your house?

Because I know where you live.

Um, there is a public comment period at the end of the meeting, if you would like to come up, or if it's something on the agenda, you can come up during that agenda.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, thank you, sir.

Okay.

Mayor, council Nick Elfensetti, skeet.

Um about six weeks ago, very happy to see some 25 mile an hour street signs put up on Chaparral Drive.

Uh, about 20 years ago, I asked Bill Nichols, which was the mayor at the time.

Was there any chance of getting any uh speed zone signs installed?

And at the time he said absolutely not.

He said there is no right-a-way.

Well, they found a right-of-way right next to my wall.

That's fine.

I had no problem with that.

I I'm glad that happened.

That we at least we got them up there.

What I'd like to see is after the first three days, the traffic went back to normal again.

Now it's a 75 miles an hour, I think.

I see it as 25, but somebody else may see it as 75.

So I think the same thing that's going on in your neighborhood might be the same thing that's going on on Chaparral Drive.

Now, do you have golf carts racing on the street?

You'll see that too on if you come up there in Chaparral.

I just say that we might need some help up there to get some law enforcement to start handing out tickets again.

Like I said, somebody's going to get hurt.

There's four bus stops that are there in the morning.

I've seen people take and swerve around the buses, the school buses, uh, prior to loading.

I don't know if they were loading or not, but I see them whizzing around them.

So I think that before somebody gets hurt up there, we need to take a look at that.

Thank you very much.

Uh, one other quick item.

I still have a minute.

Uh and that would be this.

I see that, you know, in the in the uh maybe not in the agenda.

Uh people that are coming up for jobs.

Are those jobs being advertised publicly?

And do where are they?

There's a lot of people that keep asking about jobs with the city or jobs here in Mesquite.

And we never see them come up on any public announcement or any kind of posting of it, which I think by law it has to be.

And we don't see that.

So please be a little bit more transparent about that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Nick.

And I do think all of those jobs are on the city website if you look at it.

Council, Mr.

Mayor.

For the record, I'm Marcus Bender.

Nordic Beach Holdings submitted FOIAs and subpoenas for public records of emails of certain public officials over three months ago.

City attorney, Mr.

Anderson, to date.

We have only received a fraction of those emails.

I hope we'll have everything this week.

Meanwhile, out of the few emails that we have received to date, it certainly confirms our position.

I will read one of those shorter emails.

It is from when we initially started voicing our concerns about the parking at Red Hills, amongst other issues.

Uh at the Red Hills Commercial Center.

This email is dated April 6, 2021.

It is from Mr.

Richard Seacrest, head of the planning department at that time.

It was sent to Red Hills property manager, Miss Becky Richards.

Okay, you can put that up.

Hi, Becky.

Are you still managing musquite vistas at the Red Hills Shopping Center?

Marcus Bender is that be me, by the way.

Marcus Bender is raising issues about people using his parking and how much he has to pay for HOA dues, etc.

And he's got a burr in his saddle about Club Envy not having enough parking and using his.

Wasn't the shopping center approved with a total number of parking spaces and a total amount of building square feet with the understanding that everyone shared the parking?

Do you know of any formal agreement or sharing parking in the center?

Or in the HOA private covenants?

Richard Seacrist.

Wow.

So the head of city planning, Mr.

Seacrist, obviously has no clue on any kind of parking agreements.

Mr.

Secret should have this information on file and it should be publicly recorded.

Yet they have nothing.

Why?

Because it does not exist.

Instead, the head of planning is seeking third-party information.

Every one of you should know the plat map and city codes and laws come first.

That's the way it is.

And then you can talk CCNRs.

My wife and I continue to suffer financial losses due to the fact the city refuses to enforce codes.

Mr.

Simon Kim needs to do his job and enforce codes, or he should be fired.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Marcus.

I have to say I love looking at you, Patty.

You always make me smile.

Hello, my name is Raylane Chipano, Nordic Beach Properties for the record.

Um, first of all, thank you, Mr.

Anderson, for your due diligence.

Um, I don't think we should be using city attorney.

Um, I mean, the the cost of the city attorney to have to go through all these records is ridiculous, and it does burden the taxpayers.

So I do want to compliment him on getting trying to get it, but we shouldn't have to use him to get the records that have been requested.

Um the withheld records include communications between the city staff and the association's attorneys, property managers, and certain owners, all of which are directly relevant to Nordic Beach's ongoing litigation.

The city cannot selectively decide which records to release when those records directly affect property rights and legal proceedings.

Transparency and compliance with Nevada's public records are our legal obligations, not options.

It has also come to light that Simon Kim, the city's uh development services, has overstepped his authority by involving himself in private dis uh civil disputes between property owners and the Red Hills uh Association on September 2nd.

You can show this one now.

On September 2nd, 2025, Mr.

Kim sent an email to Robert Sites, the nightclub owner and Red Hills board president attaching a cut verification letter and copying city attorney Anderson.

The letter confirms that MV Night Club's conditional use permit from 2011 remains valid and includes no parking restrictions or conditions.

This means there are no parking studies, waivers, or variances on file that alter those conditions.

That means the city code applies.

This is his letter.

Despite this, Mr.

Kim has continued to involve himself in parking determinations using both the association's attorney and city resources to justify NVIS parking use.

Let me be clear.

Mr.

Kim has no authority to use the association's attorney for his own city purposes, which is here's the letters from Mr.

Kim is using uh the city attorney or the HOA attorney for advice on what how to enforce a code that he himself should know using the CC and Rs instead of the actual city codes.

Even more concerning is that the city um have continued to use the association's legals council, despite Mr.

Seites' removal from being an owner and voting rights in the Red Hill Center.

So this is after he was voted out.

Finally, Mr.

Kim had prior knowledge of the Nordic Beach subdivision and never exposed it.

So I've been asking Travis Anderson for the letter.

Mr.

Kim actually wrote the letter in 2023, but withheld it from us and withheld it until Mr.

Anderson finally turned over the public record that said that our subdivisions were legal.

So we're fighting for because the city wouldn't put this in writing for us for our lawsuit in 2023.

We have been fighting a lawsuit that shouldn't be happening at all.

Our parking is ours.

We have paid for it.

We have no waivers, no variances, no, no, there's no parking studies.

There's nothing done for Red Hills.

In fact, the codes are not valid.

We would fire codes, every code that's there.

We ask that the codes are enforced, so we don't have to keep coming back to the city council meetings.

Thank you.

Thank you, Rayleigh.

Seeing no one else step forward, I'm gonna go ahead and move on to item number two, the consent agenda.

2.1 consideration approval of the Tuesday, August 26, 2025, regular city council meeting minutes and Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 technical review meeting minutes and the Tuesday, October 14th, 2025 regular city council meeting agenda.

2.2 consideration of approval of a notification or budget transfers, b notification of budget amendments, C notification of bills paid, D purchase orders.

2.3 consideration of approval of resolution number R25-041, adopting the cooperative agreement between the City of Musquite and the Virgin Valley Water District for the Levitt and Hafen Lane Roadway Project.

2.4 consideration of approval of resolution number R25-042, adopting cooperative agreement between the City of Musquite and the Virgin Valley Water District for the Mesquite Boulevard Mill and Overlay Project.

2.5 consideration of approval of resolution number R25-043.

Adopting the supplemental number six to interlocal contract number 1321 between Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada and Clark County, City of Las Vegas, City of North Las Vegas, City of Henderson, City of Boulder City, and the City of Musquite for a lot a fiber optics service contract.

Any questions from council on the consent agenda?

Any public comment on the consent agenda.

See none.

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you, Mayor.

I will make a motion to approve the consent agenda.

Do I have a second?

I'll second it.

Okay, call for the vote.

NSI.

Galloway.

One more sign.

Okay, motion passes.

Item 3.1, Mesquite Detention Center semi-annual city council report for January 1st, 2025 to June 30th, 2025.

Interim Chief Fells.

Thought I left all my papers up here.

So the Nevada law requires that we do a six-month report or twice a year report on the detention center and the status of it.

And if anybody's been over there, it's a it's a mess.

If you've no, if you're aren't aware, we're doing a huge remodel and it is uh an absolute disaster in there.

But we're doing our best, right, Travis?

We're doing a good job.

Um we're we're still functioning.

Um our average populations are still about the same.

We've our our housing areas are still good.

Um we're we're in the process of adding um four holding cells and then a kitchen and a and a laundry and a few things over there.

If you haven't, if the council hasn't been over, I would love for you to come and I'll walk you through.

Um we're adding a new evidence building um uh uh in the back to house all of our the police department's evidence, and then we're expanding the court.

I should say we, Travis is doing all this.

Um we we are doing all of this.

Um the courts is getting really close to their stuff.

The evidence building is almost completed, um, although it's still back there in the disaster that's going on.

Um and that, but it'll be um I would my my guess is January before we're gonna get back into the jail running full steam.

Um also part of the NRS requires that we um disclose any kind of fatalities that happen inside of the detention center.

We haven't had any, so that's just there's been zero, which is a good thing.

So that's what that was my uh statutory requirement.

Thank you.

Any questions from council?

I think you're good.

Any public comment on um the detention center?

Okay, seeing none, um I'll call for a motion to accept that presentation.

Councilwoman Fielding.

I will make a motion to accept that presentation.

Do I have a second?

I'll second.

We have a second, call for the vote.

NSI Galloway.

Okay, item 4.1 resolution R25-044 regarding the apportionment of surplus amounts remaining in the special fund created for the City of Musquite, Nevada Special Improvement District, SID Canyon Crest in the amount of 800,000 26, 221 dollars and 79 cents has been pulled.

But if you wish to comment on that, you can please come forward.

Okay, seeing none, we're gonna move on to mayor's comments and reports.

Um I don't have anything to any members of council, councilman Ennis.

I just have a couple of things.

There we go.

I just have a couple of things to put out really quick.

First of all, I want to thank Randy, Lobb uh director of uh parks direct, did a fantastic job up there at SEC on the grass in the lawn up there.

Now, if we could just get people to pick up their trash and walk 10 feet to a trash can and put it in there, it'd be great and keep the dogs off the grass up there, they'll be even better.

Um to the veteran sings.

We're gonna have the veterans round table.

That's gonna be next Friday on the 24th.

I put flyers out there on the table.

This is open to all veterans and spouses.

It's gonna be up at Sun City, so please come up there.

Our health, uh the health department part of it's gonna be there also giving out vaccination vaccines, whatever you want to call them.

Uh and there's a list of those vaccines on the flyer out on the um out on the table out there.

This is also on the mesquite veteran center website.

I believe it's on what's happening mesquite and everywhere else, and it's even on the city website.

Um little update on the uh veterans clinic.

Uh, we now have a uh a nurse practitioner and a registered nurse that's willing to come here two times a week for our veterans.

And I've been in talk with the hospital, and they are they are uh willing to uh share some of their office spaces with us so those folks can come in and take care of our veterans that are unable to get to St.

George and or Vegas.

And then uh lastly is the parade, the veterans parade is gonna be on November 8th.

And uh please, please.

We still have a few slots left if you're interested in getting into the parade and just yay yay and being part of it.

Uh please come and see us at the Veterans Center.

Uh it's free.

There is no entry cost.

And uh the only thing we ask is uh is a veteran military theme, sort of on a float if you're gonna do a float, or if you just want to walk with us, you can walk with us also.

And that's all I have.

Thank you.

Thank you, councilman.

Councilwoman Gallo.

Okay, I'll make mine real quick too, because it's been long already.

Um on October 18th, Saturday, we have another pet adoption.

So thank you for mentioning about the pet adoptions with we care um at the Jimmy Yewes building, and thank you to Randy and his team because it's to be able to use that building for um these pet adoptions really makes a difference.

Um, also on October 18th, everybody may know the um the Virgin Valley Park will be uh doing a ribbon cutting.

So that'll be the Saturday.

Um October 25th, if you can make it um at the Eureka, we have the Halerica, and I don't know if you've been there before, but the people come with their dogs and costumes, and usually they match the costumes.

It's it's hysterical.

So if you have some time um on October 25th, this is Saturday, come over to the Eureka because it's it's really a lot of fun.

October 25th, same day.

Saturday is also the Warrior Woman duck derby.

Um, I have my little duck here.

Um it's for breast cancer.

Um, you can get tickets through the to the gals um that are part of that group, actually, ladies and men, and um also at the Casablanca, uh Casablanca and Virgin River.

Um, there are prizes, it's a thousand dollars for first place, six hundred dollars for second, four hundred for third, and there's additional um gifts.

So um you can buy your duck, it's 20 a duck, or you get six for a hundred dollars.

Um, but they're gonna put them at the top of the fountain, and they're gonna come down the fountain and they're gonna kind of bring them in.

So the first ducks that get in will be winning the prizes.

So it should be a lot of fun.

And then last but not least, on November 1st, which is coming up pretty quick, is the walk to end Alzheimer's.

So that's gonna be held at the Mesa View Hospital at 10 o'clock.

And that's it.

Thank you, Councilwoman.

Oh, and then go to the chili cook-off when you're done.

Yeah.

Thank you, Mayor Council.

Just real quickly, as I stated last week, I'd like to um give a quick update on some of the projects on Mesquite Boulevard during these times.

So uh as you've seen, uh, the work on Sand Hill continues for the ADA replacement uh removal and replacement project.

They're working very fast.

Uh they've got the one side all the way complete.

They're working on the other side.

Um once they get done with sand hill this week, they will move down to the west side of mesquite boulevard and start working east.

So all of the cones in that should be all moved this week, this weekend.

Um, other than we do have one cross-cutter uh driveway entrance at the Virgin River uh that we've actually added because we found uh we needed to replace that one.

The big item though is our mesquite boulevard mill and fill project.

That's where we're removing the five inches of asphalt, going all the way from Sand Hill down and all the way to the end of Mesquite Boulevard.

We met with the contractor last Thursday, had our first meeting.

Um, I'm meeting with them again this Thursday to finalize scheduling, um, looking at uh to minimize the impacts.

And again, we know that uh this is a six-month project, but we will be sending out uh public outreach.

I'll be giving a quick report like this each week, and we'll be putting it on the website every single uh Monday on the updates to let all of the residents and business owners know um that project is looking to start the waterline replacement portion of it um the middle of November, and then the milling portion will come after that.

Um but once again, I just want to take this time.

I'll do this each just really quick to give kind of updates.

That's where we're at right now, and as we get farther in, we'll be giving out scheduling a little bit more.

So and if there's any residents that have any questions, we will have there's a lot of work that's gonna be going on uh November 3rd.

They will start working on the traffic signal at Hardy Way and Falcon Ridge Parkway, and then I'm also meeting with the contractor on Thursday for the Levitt Lane um extension.

So that project will be starting uh shortly as well.

So lots going on.

If there's any questions, please feel free.

You can reach out to me on email or phone.

I'm happy to discuss any of the projects with anyone.

Um complaints, good things, whichever.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Any other uh Captain Fells?

Chief Fells.

Um, I just wanted to talk about like Mesquite Night Out.

We had the Mesquite Fire Police and Fire and I don't know how many of you got to town the other night, but it was a great event.

It really was a success.

We had a lot of great agencies show up.

We had the helicopters from Mercy and Las Vegas Metro.

Um we did a bunch of you know um just displays and like all the agencies that showed up that we work with that around us, you know, Arizona DPS, we have Mojave County folks, search and rescue, our volunteers are uh fire, obviously, and then uh you know, all the bunkerville fire and beaver down fire, everybody was there.

It was a it was a lot of fun.

The kids get a lot of a chance to meet all of us.

It was one of our most successful events ever.

There was a lot of folks there, really enjoyed it.

Um Mesa View, um, the Elks and uh Mesquite Entertainment did some great donations for us to help us do a lot of hamburgers and hot dogs and things like that.

It was just it was just a good night.

Um moving on to the next thing.

So um uh city manager uh Martin, she uh like let me uh feed into all get bring everybody in on trunk retreat.

Trunk retreats always been an MPOA thing.

It started out as an MPOA thing.

Um 20 something years ago we started out with haunted houses, then we moved into the trunk retreat to sort of because we couldn't find enough decrepit houses to build haunted houses, and so um we ended up doing trunk retreat.

The very first one was out on our street right out here in front of City Hall.

And that was, I think, in 2003 or 2004.

So ever since then we've done a trunk retreat.

The police department's done a trunk retreat.

Um I I wanted to incorporate everybody.

It felt more like it should be a city thing, like it's a like a more dynamic thing when we can bring all of our departments together, have all the participation.

Um and you know, with the great help of you know, Nancy, like helping us organize uh Martin and um you know Jason and um obviously Randy, he uh he's hooking me up with the whole spot for the uh place to do it and everything.

We're just gonna move forward with a bigger and a better event and a more of a include more of a uh citywide thing rather than just the police department.

And there's a little bit of a side thing for that.

It will allow me to get more of my guys out on the street rather than them handing out candy.

They'll be out doing, they'll be out keeping people safe and doing what they're supposed to be doing.

Um we've got a couple other things going on that I wanted to mention, and I left my stuff up here and I lost it.

We have a coloring contest going on at the police department that the records division's doing.

They took a lot of the coloring pages to the um elementary schools and stuff this week.

And so they're returning those to the police department, and they're doing a raffle.

Um just if you've got anybody of your the like any of your young ones that's that sees those or wants one, um, they can reach out to the police department and we'll get them one.

Um, and then we've got shop of the cock coming real soon.

Um that's coming.

Um obviously we're looking forward to helping with golf for kids.

Um, these things all take donations.

Um, and so if anybody out there is like ready to give us uh some help with any of our projects, trunk retreats actually a pretty expensive project.

We give away a lot of candy.

Um, and then obviously shop with the cop and stuff comes on later in the year.

So those things are are coming up for us, and we're looking forward to developing new new programs and doing the things that that uh keep all of our kids safe and engaged.

So thank you.

Thank you.

And interim chief.

I did say that if you guys can raise money for charity next year, I'll volunteer to get tased.

So we're gonna have to discuss how much money, but there might be enough people that don't like me that might just pony up.

We're gonna get her done right now.

So the next next year.

So we're gonna go.

Oh, Nick's got to be.

We're gonna raffle us with taser shot.

Sure, yeah, I'll do it.

I'll keep that in mind.

Yeah, might raise the lot.

Any other uh presentations uh by uh department heads, city council?

No, okay.

6.1 consideration of the introduction of bill B25-015, amending the Title IX, Unified Development Chapter 7, Area and Bulk Regulations, Article Y, Accessory Uses and Structures by adding subsection 9-7Y-8, exceptions to building height limitations to accommodate ornamental landmarks.

Any questions from oh Mr.

Kim, sorry.

Thank you, Mayor and City Council.

Uh I'm sorry, I'm not talking about uh candies tonight.

So this is about accommodate ornamental landmarks.

Uh we had uh master plan committee meet meeting last month, and uh we found that we need uh a landmark uh to define downtown core area.

This is some kind of examples of the clock tower.

So we also had recently about LDS church uh staple height.

Uh I went out there uh to the North Arrowhead and uh measured it.

Uh I utilized my uh range finder uh for the first time for debt use, and then I uh I used a tangent uh analysis.

I have never used this since high school.

So and I had got 70 feet, exactly.

So uh the church staple right now, the existing one is not that uh um outstanding or is extremely high as it is.

Um we had a question about uh the public member came out and talked about uh uh top high to be 170 feet.

Um so I debited it uh uh plane and uh I found that uh for example uh at some people use this 100 feet as a ground level, and this is the case.

Uh you usually architect uses 100 feet as a ground level.

And uh so that's why uh Lichio Truss is a 131 uh and uh six inches, but it's actually 31 feet and six inches.

Top is 170 feet, but it is actually 70 feet.

So uh the proposed uh church height is uh nothing uh more than uh the what is existing right now.

So uh this is a proposed amendment that would be added to it.

Uh 97Y-8 exceptions to the building height limitations.

Currently, city wide height is uh generally 35 feet.

If it is commercial uh downtown area is a 40.

Um, so we need the exception.

So uh how are we gonna make an exception?

So uh the condition would be that that uh uh they they are not intended for the human occupancy.

Um so for example, churchy spires uh belf and freeze and cupolas and domes, ornamental towers and um minarets and the clock towers and steeples and other similar architecture features, and the maximum, by the way, proposing is a 70 feet, uh, because that is the tall uh tallest one existing within the town.

And uh the structure is not intended for human occupancy again, and then the structure is not intended for private use, including use in connection with uh single family residence, and the structure is constructed with the uh matriars and uh method that meets the uh building standard.

So um this is the proposed languages and the step recommendation to the city council is to introduce bill number B25-015 by short title and set the public hearing date for October 28, 2025.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Kim.

Any questions from council?

Okay, and seeing none, I'm gonna open up for public comment.

Hello.

Hello, my name is Sandra, I'm a mesquite resident.

I'm opposed to this.

Say your name one more time, please.

Sandra, S A and D.

And what's your last name?

Lay, LAY.

Okay.

Um, I'm opposed to the proposal.

It's 70 feet, ends up being a six-story structure, and these are being proposed in medium to low density residential communities.

So this uh resolution affects all of mesquite, not just the commercial or other areas.

A structure of this size would never be allowed by an HOA as it's not in harmony with the surrounding structures.

No HOA would allow you to go this high, and this is sitting in the middle of a residential community.

I know you're trying to build landmarks to identify mesquite, uh, but this is not an area that's visible by any of the visitors or many people in general.

Um it'll only be few by a few.

The uh other examples that you gave were in areas that visitors see and residents are conducting business in.

Um this site that is proposed will have enough of a landmark with a five-acre black asphalt parking lot that is needed to support these buildings.

Um, in addition, this uh resolution is written with the intent to be only one landmark per site, uh, since every reference seems to be singular.

I don't think you're planning on building multiple clock towers in this town.

The site presented by uh in the last meeting had two towers, both at 70 feet, and I think only one tower should be allowed per site.

However, there's no clarity to that, so I think at the least clarity needs to be added, or what the long-term compromise would be to allow long standing existing rules to apply since they were meant to protect the residents of the city from structures that will tower over their properties.

Thank you.

Thank you, Sandra.

Good evening, Mayor Council.

Just uh wanted to point out that this exception does exist.

Give us your name.

Oh, John Shippert with uh this exception that Simon has proposed is pretty standard with most jurisdictions that there's an architectural element um exception.

So it's not just musquite, it's we've been in many other places where there's been architectural exceptions with height, and uh just wanted to point that out.

Thank you, John Okay.

See no one else come forward.

I'm gonna turn it back over to council for a motion.

Councilman Parrish.

I'll make a motion to uh move this forward to the public hearing part.

Uh bill number B 25-015 amending title nine.

Do I have a second?

I'll second.

Okay, call for the vote.

Galloway.

NSI.

Hi.

Okay, 7.1 consideration of conditional conditional use permit number C UP-25-003, VB Mosquite to operate a full off-sell liquor shop at 195 Willis Carrier Canyon Way, APN number 002-13-212-003 in the industrial light IR-1 district.

Mr.

Kim?

Thank you, Mayor.

Oh you go.

Um the location is actually deep roots harvest buildings, and they are planning to divide the uh southern building uh into two parts.

Uh and they wanna uh sell uh they actually created a new entity.

Uh it's not actually deep roots harvest.

Uh there is another entity they they want to occupy that building and then sell the uh liquor inside.

Uh it is not uh uh the the on-site consumption, it is off-site only.

So this is what they are proposing.

Uh the number one is uh retail liquor sales that is proposed, and the number two would be existing marijuana production uh location, and number three would be the marijuana dispensary uh locations uh which is existing.

Uh so the uh requirement is that facility shall be uh separated permanently with uh marijuana facilities um with the uh the fences and also uh the any uh inter kind of corridors and connections or doors shall be removed.

Um to the north is uh uh the RV uh zone area to the east is MF4, multifamily, to the south and west is uh uh industrial zone.

And uh so it was a kind of uh strange for the first time when I received this application.

So I asked the Nevada Cannabis compliance board, and uh this is exactly their uh response.

They said our legal team has reviewed the matter and has no concerns with the proceeding.

So uh they uh they said exactly they should be able to confine cannabis operations to one suit and open the bar in another.

They thought it was on-site consumption, but it is actually off-site sales.

Uh this is set up would be similar to any uh strip mall configuration where a dispensary and a PTs uh pub operates as neighbors.

So uh after checking or uh step determined there is a no legal issues and no zoning issues, no environmental issues because it is currently existing building, no traffic issues.

So step recommends that the city council hold the public hearing and approve the conditional use permit.

Uh the requirements uh or condition would be the uh liquor retail shop must be completely separated or divided from the use of deep roots harvest.

Uh there shall be no internal door corridor connection in the building.

Fence shall be installed properly to define the root uh deep roots harvest.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Kim.

Any questions from council?

Seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and open the public hearing.

or condition would be the uh liquor retail shop must be completely separated or divided from the use of deep roots harvest uh there shall be no internal door corridor connection in the building fence shall be installed properly to define the route uh deep roots harvest thank you thank you mr kim any questions from council seeing none i'm gonna go ahead and open the public hearing uh ron shackleford um did i understand it's gonna be a liquor store and a bar is that was that something I heard no currently they propose uh off site uh consumption only so they're gonna uh sell the bottle itself uh packages so they're gonna just sell liquor and that it's not gonna be a bar of any type there will be no bar inside all right cool and then um just wondering if maybe the city is looking at possibly putting a a light there um on that exiting you know that area because that is getting to be a pretty heavy traffic area and I think a a light there would probably be a good good idea to get in and out of there so just questions thank you thank you Ron Hello Mayor uh City Council my name's Ryan Breden and um I'm here um as the applicant to answer any questions so we appreciate your consideration and appreciate your recommendation and uh thank you thank you seeing no one else step forward the public hearing is closed councilwoman I think councilman is actually had his light on there first councilman I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion that we hold the public hearing and approve the conditional use permit on C UP 25003 B B councilwoman Fielding I'll second that okay call for the vote and aside Galloway okay motion passes um item 7.2 consideration of a conditional use permit case number C UP dash 25 dash 004 Desert Mountain vacation rentals to operate a vacation rental at 950 Santa Fe Drive APN 001-10110-039 in the single family residential SF district thank you mayor and city council uh this is the short uh vacation uh rental uh case is a conditional use permit uh just for your information this is not a rezoning this is conditional use permit um i will explain further um the location is with uh the within the Santa Fe Vista subdivision near the airport and it is uh within the single family residential area and uh it has uh two bedrooms in the house and one casita so they can have maximum eight guests uh and uh the uh children under uh 18 vacation home rental can be approved through a conditional use permit process within the single family zone um so uh previously when uh this regulation is uh in the Muskete municipal code uh the city council uh and the citizen knew uh what is coming uh the first the intent was to provide uh benefits to the owners uh to ear some uh revenue uh this revenue is to uh the to provide their maintenance up uh upgrades and that their cost not that actually making money uh out of it uh the second thing is the city council knew there would be issues excessive noise disorderly conduct vandalism overcrowding uh traffic congestion illegal vehicle parking and accumulation of refuse and also knew the enforcement would be difficult uh so um city addressed uh uh potential impacts uh so by uh placing the compliance standards in it uh so I'm gonna show you the compliance standard um in this case this condition use is uh uh actually to uh let the community knows uh what the owner's responsibility is and what community can do with it when they see those negative impacts um so there is a compliance standards first to be they they gotta be licensed and they need to apply with the informations they need to file and they need to conform with the zoning and land uses and occupancy and parking limits uh that the maximum of two persons per sleeping room plus two extra person up to 12 max uh excluding children on under 12 uh and the parking compliance overnight vehicles limited to designated on site uh spaces so if they have but uh two parking garage and then uh driving way uh that goes to the uh parking space they can have uh four uh parking space so um noise and nuisance control uh this is different from uh city's uh noise ordinance this this is more restrictive and uh uh citizens need to know and the owners also need to know

Uh and the parking compliance, overnight vehicles limited to designated on-site spaces.

So if they have two parking garage and then uh driving way uh that goes to the uh parking space, they can have uh four uh parking space.

So um noise and nuisance control.

Uh this is different from uh cities' uh noise ordinance.

This this is more restrictive, and uh uh citizens need to know, and the owners also need to know.

Uh it says no outside audible noise 10 p.m.

through 8 a.m.

So no outside uh noise.

Uh we regul uh our regulation is basically about 60 uh uh decibel, but it says no outside or audible noise during that time.

So if they go against it, then they'll be uh violating the code.

Uh this disturbance of the peace, so uh they need to uh uh the compliance with the nuisance and disorderly conduct laws, and the owner owners must use best efforts to prevent uh disturbance.

So another thing is that they need to post notice.

Um it's gotta be uh within the unit on or adjacent to the front door.

So there could be the questions uh police uh get called, the police can be there, and uh police has a really hard time to find if it is a vacant residential rental.

But if the owner posted on that uh near the front door, the when the door opens, it's gotta be visible.

So this is another thing.

Um the uh we need to make sure that posting is done right, and the owner and the local contact information should be available uh 24 hours and uh maximum occupancy and vehicle was talked about it, and uh they need to meet the trash collection rules and parking loss and rules and disturbance penalties and all those stuff.

Uh business license number is required for every advertisement, and they need to clean the uh the property weekly or uh beat in the uses, uh and the landline phone is required for the emergency contact purposes, and they need to comply with the certain Nevada Health District's sanitary uh requirements.

And uh their local uh local contact uh information should be available 24 hours, and they need to respond within one hour, and uh they need to pay the taxes.

Um if they violate any of those, uh which include the non-compliance with the standard conditions, first or misleading application information, failure to collect remit taxes or failure of local contact to respond if they don't respond within one hour, and penalties would be the first violation, uh warning notice, second violation, fine up to 500, uh, third violation, license suspensions for 90 days, and then fourth uh will be revocation.

Um and the renewer uh they need to pay the renewal fees and they need to go through the whole thing.

Now having said that, uh step recommends the city council approve this uh conditional use permit because uh this uh property is the new property for the uh uh short-term uh residential vacation rental.

Uh if this property was involved in the past as a short-term rental, uh noise or any of it, and then if uh the permit was uh voided at that time and they came back and come back and apply for it, then we have a reason to deny it.

But uh this time we can't we will not be able to deny this one uh for assumption or uh for concerns of the communities make.

Another uh thing city council uh can do uh because of this uh the uh short-term residential rental would make uh issues uh could be the ban entire uh citywide uh short-term residential rental.

So uh right now uh step sees that there is no reason to uh deny it.

Uh however, uh I understand a lot of uh citizen members here has concerns about short-term residential rental, and uh this that is why I'm actually beginning to uh putting it out and show it uh to the public where is the locations and what you can do, and uh uh and also I need to address that uh code enforcement and uh uh police need to work together uh about this short-term residential rental so uh we can actually communicate to get more information uh mostly at night time.

Uh if the uh the citizen complain about the noise, the police will be there, and that that information needs to be relayed to us so that we can actually uh go uh go for the citation or uh other measures uh to restrict it.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Kim.

Any questions from council?

Councilman Parrish.

Thank you, Mayor.

Um I'm very familiar with this neighborhood.

I'd done a ton of work up there.

This neighborhood was not built for vacation rentals.

I'm sorry.

Um the streets aren't quite as wide as the rest of the streets in Mesquite.

Um, there's not a whole lot of off-street parking.

Driveways are close together.

Um the streets are all 25 miles an hour, and I can just see people.

You just don't know what you're gonna get.

So, and it was never intended to be a vacation rental area.

So, in my mind, we need we need to deny this.

Um there's plenty of other vacation rental areas in the city of Mesquite, but this is not one of them.

So I I encourage the rest of our council members to seriously consider this.

Um, this is not a vacation rental area.

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

Councilwoman Gallow.

Um, I agree with councilman um Kevin Parrish.

Um, this is not the right area.

Uh there is something that I want to point out that I have recently heard that they're in the casita, they are putting in bunk beds to sleep eight people.

So that's not counting the home.

And I don't know if any if we've been notified.

Eight eight people, correct?

Yeah, okay.

Um my concern also is the uh owner does not even live in the state, lives in Utah.

So we have to make sure that we have somebody local.

Um there's way too to me, there's too many red flags on this.

Um the it says uh emergency access.

Well, it's one driveway, so I don't know how you're gonna get an emergency access from the home in that.

Um I've got a bunch of notes here, but I think um Councilman Parrish pretty much uh wrapped it up.

I don't think that this is a great location for this right now in the middle of this neighborhood.

Um, especially since I don't know that we're all we're getting all the complete truth of what's intended for that spot.

Thank you.

Thanks, councilwoman.

Any other questions from council?

Okay, seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and open up the public hearing mayor and city council.

Um, I am the homeowner of 950 Saturday Drive.

Ryan McCormick.

Um initially purchased the home a couple of years ago as a secondary residence for me and my family.

And we've made a lot of improvements to the home, a lot of nice visual improvements, a lot of nice landscaping.

And anyway, we'd love the home.

We love being at the home.

And it was just a an option to offset the costs of the ownership of the home to have it as a nightly rental.

Um we understand how you know to do so and with all of the recommendations, you know, put forward, you know, for a nightly rental, you know, to make it a safe and functional place.

You know, we we know how that works, and you know, we're fine with all of the recommendations.

Um we've also installed additional parking on this.

We have two driveways.

We have so we wouldn't have any um street parking at all on the at this location.

Um, so anyway, um, we love mesquite, you know, we love me down here as our family and place to visit.

And you know, we love the home we built, and you know, we hope that uh you'll consider it, you know, for what we want to do with it.

So thank you.

Thank you, Ryan.

Good evening, guys.

My name is Scott Bennett.

Um, I actually live in the neighborhood myself, and there are a number of nightly rentals in this neighborhood.

They all function very well.

I don't know of any complaints that we've had in the neighborhood itself on any lightly rentals.

Uh there's one currently on my own street.

I've never had a complaint about it.

However, I do have some long-term rentals in the neighborhood that I have plenty of complaints about that are on deaf ears.

Nobody cares about long-term rentals in town.

All they look at is just another housing unit for somebody to stay in.

These short-term rentals generate massive tax income for the city.

12.5% on everything they make is a huge tax increase.

I know of at least six homes in that neighborhood that are all nightly rentals.

They work very well, no complaints.

So I mean, yes, uh, I understand the need for housing currently in the house in the city.

There's 475 properties available, single family nightly uh long-term rentals, including four cell properties.

So I'm just in my opinion, I think nightlies are needed here.

There's there's not enough good rentals here.

They generate massive income for the city.

The streets in that neighborhood are the biggest streets I've ever lived on, by the way.

Just my concern, but um, yeah.

Sorry about the nervousness.

I don't talk in front of people much, but I I think it's a great opportunity for him as an owner for these other people that are gonna be here tonight as well.

I've got five other clients in town that are looking to do the same thing.

So I'm hoping that this doesn't end the way it sounds like it might end.

So that's just my comment.

Thanks.

Okay, thank you, Scott.

Mayor, City Council.

I live next door to this property.

Can we get your name real quick, sir?

Doug Honso, 960, Santa Fe.

And I have some really really serious concerns.

This is a very nice home area, individual people.

Everybody on our block, to best of my knowledge, is 65 or over.

It's a nice quiet neighborhood.

The last gentleman mentioned he has other properties.

I don't think he has any other properties that are gonna have 14 people plus children, which is what your code calls for.

Children don't count.

There could be 30 people there.

The wall between his property and mine is two feet high.

I'm just no trees, nothing to absorb the sound.

Um go down somebody's gonna.

Yeah, uh, the occupancy scares me to death.

Uh that's my biggest problem.

14 adults plus two children in a house that was designed for four people.

Four people, not eighteen and kids.

That's objectionable, as far as I know, to everyone who resides on my block.

I hope you take that in consideration.

We don't want to turn this into a water park next to my home.

Thank you, Doug.

Nick Elf and Suddy, mesquite.

Uh Mayor Council.

I have one of these homes next door to me.

Okay.

Uh it started about 12 years ago.

Then putting up with noise, parties, parties that go on until four or five o'clock in the morning, people trying to sleep.

Uh, my wife's full-time work.

And there's nights that I've called the police.

Well, we're busy, we can't get to it right now, kind of thing.

Cars parked on the sidewalk, black in the sidewalk.

I've seen people with uh vehicles similar to what was just here, having to go out into the street, and because the fact the cars are blackened, the driveways are jammed over there next door this past summer.

Okay, I've complained a couple of times to uh Kim about it.

Uh they've had 15, 18 kids during the daytime, constant all day.

Okay, the parties go on at night.

Uh when they start up, the conversations will be nothing but words that I will not repeat here, and I don't think we need to, but it's how many nasty words can you get into a sentence, and that's the competition that they have at night.

So I say if you don't live next to one, try one.

You'll definitely not want this in your neighborhood.

I have to deal with it daily.

Thank you.

Thank you, Nick.

Good evening, honorable mayor, council, and the city.

Kim, Mr.

Kim, uh I've talked to you on the phone, and I appreciate the input you've given me.

Uh Clark Strong, I live at 970 Santa Fe Drive, and I'm going on close to 20 years in a very peaceful, quiet neighborhood, with the exception of two years ago, there was a home on a short-term rental behind us.

We were calling the police several times during the stays.

It was a total nightmare, and I agree with the gentleman that came and spoke before me.

Unless you're living next to one of these rentals, especially with that number of people, and where Mr.

McCormick has put in a pool in a hot tub where there's a retaining wall that echoes all the noise through that neighborhood.

It is you just don't imagine it until you live through it.

When Mr.

Kim talked about MC 213-2, there is no benefit to the neighborhood.

It's only detriment that this house will bring.

With the exception of you, Scott.

Please uh don't refer to anybody else in the audience.

Okay, thank you.

Um it's just we welcome the new owner of the house.

He's put a lot of money into it, made it very nice.

Welcome him to the neighborhood.

But if you want that amount of people and that kind of atmosphere, there's a casino or two casinos or three casinos within a mile of this property.

Parking, there's two driveways.

There can be extra cars parked in the driveway, not anything on the street to say much of.

If someone's pulling a trailer with ATVs, which we all love to do here in Mesquite, parking will be a total disaster.

So I please ask all of you to put yourself in the place of us that have been there for 20 some odd years and do not want a vacation rental right next to our home that we love in the community that we love.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Ronald Shackleford.

Um, just from experience, uh, let you know.

Um, I owned a condo up in Hawkridge condominiums.

Um, those are rental condominiums.

Uh, we can rent those out when I owned it.

Um night I came home and there's a big party going on, 30, 40 people in the parking lot, they're barbecuing where they're not supposed to be, what have you, and the owners were nowhere to be found or being able to be contacted.

Um, their representative in town was not able to be contacted or talked to.

I ended up calling the police.

I was on the board at the time, so I had all the contact information I needed.

Um, and it just I mean, I'm afraid to see that happen in a little, you know, a neighborhood like this.

Um there was more, there's been a lot of problems up there with rentals.

Um, there was a three-bedroom rental that six, eight people is fine, but then it turned into a party of 35 kids were in the pool.

Um, multiple families showed up, parking was atrocious, they were blocking the driveways and everything else.

So I just don't see this happening in the neighborhood.

I have to agree with Kevin on this issue.

Um, and you know, there is no way of controlling who you get in there as much as you think you can, and they're A or B and be it, and they have rules and regulations, but you know, a lot of people just don't obey those rules and regulations, and I've seen that firsthand, and I would hate to see it happen in this neighborhood.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ron.

Okay, seeing no one else come forward, I'm gonna go ahead and close the public hearing.

Uh council, councilwoman Fielding.

So I have a little bit different side to that.

Um, I don't think we should dictate to owners in non-HOAs what they can do.

When we get an approval, um recommendation from Mr.

Kim with everything and the conditions that are laid out clearly what needs to be done, then they need to be followed.

I understand the police can be called, the owners can take responsibility, but I still don't feel like I should dictate to somebody who could possibly have uh a nightly weekly um rental in that property.

So with that being said, I'm gonna make a motion to approve the conditional use permit.

MCU P 2504.

Do I have a second?

I'll second it.

We have a second call for the vote.

One parish, no.

Gallow, no.

Okay, the motion fails.

That did not pass.

Okay, item 7.3 consideration of conditional use permit number CUP-25-005, vacation rental home to operate a vacation rental at 697 Lolita Lane, APN 001-17-111-001 in the single family residential district.

Thanks for here and city council.

Uh, this is the same vacation rental home issues, just location is staffant.

Uh, it is off of uh old mill road, uh, west of the Great Bine Road.

Um, and it is a single family residential area.

Uh, they have a three-bedroom, so maximum eight guests for uh plus children, and uh the same thing, uh same conditions, same standards.

Step recommendation is the same.

The city council holds a public hearing and approve conditional use permit case number, CUP dash 25-005.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Kim.

Any questions from council?

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you, Mayor.

I'm just gonna repeat what I just said.

I don't think that we should dictate to homeowners that don't have CCNRs or anything that um doesn't allow short-term, nightly, short-term, weekly rentals in their property.

Um, the owners probably purchased um the rental or inherited it, and it was sounds like it was in their family.

So I I still again don't feel like we need to dictate, and again, um Mr.

Kim is recommending that we pass this one as well.

Any other questions from council?

Okay, seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and open the public hearing.

Dominic Olivetto, I live at uh 243 Hiawatha.

I live in one of the most peaceful non-HOA situations around.

In 2019, there was this rental down the street on Haiwatha that the police department made quite a number of visits due to my phone calls due to the motorcycles running up and down the street.

Now up the street from me on a little legal lane, excuse me, in Hiawatha.

I don't know how many people live in that rental, but there's two cars on one side with no license plates on them.

There's two cars in the driveway, one car on the dirt next to it, and a car out on the street in a two or three bedroom home.

I'm totally against this.

I bought my house in a residential area, not in an area, and I disagree with the other comments made that shouldn't be dictated.

If you want to have a vacation rental, buy a home in an area where it's already approved.

Don't come into an area where I bought because of the conditions that were there and the regulations.

Thank you.

Thank you, Dominic.

Jeff Reynolds, I told Larry that I wasn't gonna say anything tonight, but you know, just because you own the property doesn't mean that you can do what you want on that property.

You can't have a meth lab on the property next.

You can't run a garage uh for hire and have junk cars laying all around.

There are certain restrictions that they have.

Now these ladies, I think it you're the ones that we're talking about.

Okay.

They may have a vacation rental and never have a problem with it.

But the problem is when they rent someplace, it's like renting a car.

You take that car out, and you don't care how you drive that car.

You know, you drive it like you stole it, right?

Most people do anyway.

Maybe you old guys don't, but the thing is the thing is is when somebody rents that they come down here to enjoy themselves.

They don't come down here to stay inside and uh maybe go down and gamble and come back and stay.

They'd stay in a hotel if they wanted to do that.

By and large when people come from out of state or out of the area, they shed some of the the uh some of their morals.

They do things.

Matter of fact, we got people here that do things that they probably shouldn't.

Um I just how many do we have a lot of vacation rentals in this city?

I mean, is that a question I can ask?

Do we do we have any?

Or a lot.

I we definitely have some.

I do you have an idea of how many, Mr.

Kim?

Uh I do have, I just don't remember.

I think it's about 200 to something.

200 vacation rentals by owner.

Right.

Well, I thought it was just starting new, where you know, you don't want to do the go down the slippery slope and let something in, and then they say, Well, they got in, so I can get in.

Anyway, something to think about.

It's like rental any rental property.

You're in it, you don't know who you're getting in there.

You can check them and do all the stuff that you want.

They still got 45 seconds.

Um, and and it's really hard to get the owner to come and take care of the problem because they probably don't know how to kick these people out anyway.

And the, you know, anyway, that's all.

Sorry.

Thanks, Jeff.

Boy, this is a lot scarier than I thought it was gonna be when we first got here.

Um, sorry for the mistake earlier.

I I wish I could say that was the first mistake I've ever made, but again, I'm Amy Valdez, my sister Carrie Van Vegate.

I had a nice letter written.

Um, but I feel like I need to just speak from the heart here.

Um I understand everyone's concerns, and I've I mean, I can't disagree.

I would not want that in my neighborhood either, if that's 100% guaranteed what it's going to turn out to be like.

Um what I can say for sure though, is that with a vacation rental, a short-term rental.

Um that I mean, we talked about this at length, and and the the reason we chose short-term to keep this house in our family.

Well, two reasons.

One is because we have a lot of memories at this house with my dad.

Um, we've spent Thanksgiving's here for as long as I can remember.

And we would like to keep the house in our family to come and visit and spend Thanksgiving together and and all of the things that we've done.

Number two, we thought about a long-term rental, but we're afraid that the house that we put so much work into will be destroyed by a long-term rental.

With a short term, your it's cleaned every time someone leaves.

Um it has a rating, so if it's a rated at a one star because it's a mess, and there's you know they the yard is a mess and everything.

Uh, you won't get any renters.

Um, is not right in the middle of a of a road.

It's on the end.

You could probably see in the picture that we have lots of parking.

Um, we really only have one neighbor with close proximity, and we're great friends with her.

Um, she would be able to call us or text us, get a hold of us at any time.

Um, anyway, no pool.

No pool, no hot tub, just a patio on the back.

It's it's small.

We're only allowing eight guests max.

Um, yeah, we want to be an addition to the neighborhood.

We want to keep in good um graces with our neighbors because we'll be there.

Who knows?

We might retire there in a couple years.

Is there anything they got 10 seconds that you want to say?

I'm good.

You did great.

Okay, sorry, my thank you so much for your consideration.

Thank you, Amy and Kerry.

And Carrie, you would have a full three minutes if you want it.

I think I would say mostly what my sister said.

I mean, um, we do we are using a property management company here that is required.

Uh, Kathy, our neighbor knows how to get a hold of us really quickly.

We we do spend a lot of time down here, and so it I don't envision this being something that is going to be rented uh, you know, every single day of the year or um because we also enjoy coming down here, and I think a lot of you know that property taxes are really expensive, and upkeep and maintenance is expensive, and this is a way that our family can offset the cost.

Thank you, Kerry.

Thank you, Mayor Council Nick Alfonsetti again.

Uh somebody brought up the comment about when groups come in, and I say a group comes in with ATVs and trailers.

Uh first event that happened.

I had two huge 40-foot ATV trailers come in that were here for some kind of a meet, parked across my driveway, couldn't get them to move.

Uh, on Chaparral.

I've got an extra double wide driveway with a big apron.

Still couldn't get out.

Went over, talked to them.

They asked me what kind of rights do I have that I can't let them park in my driveway.

I said, because I want to get out.

That began.

After that, I get knocks on the door with people showing up, and all they want to do is sit there and argue with me about parking on my driveway.

Well, they finally moved.

They had three trailers in there by Saturday night.

And those trailers were mammoth.

They were parked on both sides of the street, blocking everything up.

That was one event.

And another event that happened.

Uh, I was threatened at the door.

And I told my wife, get back in the house before somebody gets hurt.

Uh, and this is the kind of thing you deal with with people that love to come here.

Like you say, forget their morals, forget their habits of being decent.

Uh, they start drinking, and that's the end of the story.

After that, you don't know what you're gonna have.

Uh, this past uh little event that we had here in town.

There were uh can I say shotguns being fired off in the backyard?

I guess that's kind of the thing that they do up in Utah.

I don't know, that's where everybody was from, but that was what was going on, and that was around one o'clock in the morning.

I don't know how much you want to deal with with this stuff, but it does get nasty.

And I tell you, I don't care if you got one house next to you, that one person won't be a friend anymore.

Not after this kind of stuff that goes on because people just lose it.

They really don't care.

They're here to party, and you are in their way to party.

The uh one family that owned the house, lived on a farm way up in northern Utah, and they were used to being out in the country with nobody, no neighbors within three miles.

I'm going, that's great, but you got somebody that's 10 feet away from you.

Please, please respect it, and you don't get it.

So I thank you for your time.

Thank you, Nick.

Okay, seeing no one else come forward.

I'm gonna go ahead and close the public hearing.

Uh councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you, Mayor.

Um, we do get a report every month with base vacation rentals, and I just looked at the email.

244 vacation rentals in the city of Mesquite is how many we have.

Um, anyhow, with that being said, I am gonna make a motion to approve the conditional use permit.

CUP2505.

Do I have a second?

All second.

We have a second call for the vote.

Parish no.

Gallow no.

Okay, motion doesn't pass.

Um item 7.4, consideration of approval of a restaurant with bar liquor license for gurus at the oasis located at 100 Palmer Lane.

Mr.

Kim.

Denkame area and city council.

Guru Restaurant is located within the OS Group Club, uh, as you can see from the map.

And uh Guru said OS OHS will be a new restaurant.

Actually, they momentarily opened it and then closed it.

Uh a new restaurant at the OHS Group Coast Clubhouse.

This space was previously occupied by the Warden.

And uh uh the liquor license type uh they are seeking this time is the same thing uh with the word uh held in the uh past uh in efforts to expedite the uh this weight uh step recommends approving the liquor license contingent upon the application pressing the background check and MPT issuing the findings of suitability.

Um so that is my uh recommendation.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any questions from council okay?

Seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and open up the public hearing or the public comment.

Uh Ron Shackleford.

Um I just need to ask the question and make sure that we're doing this properly.

Um with our attorney, maybe thank you.

Um I'm a member of the OSIS Golf Club, and the restaurant is in the OASIS Golf Club.

Kevin's a member, Paul's a member.

I don't know if they should recuse themselves from this vote, and I don't think it's mattered because I think we're gonna get it approved anyways, but I just technically I don't know if they should not be recusing themselves from this vote because we are members of that golf club and whether or not they should be allowed to vote or not.

So I would like to just comment.

Thank you so much.

I'm not I'm not sure I'd want to look at that in more detail.

I don't I off the top of my head, I mean, there's no there's no financial connections, right?

I mean, you you don't receive any financial benefits from being a member.

Um I'm also a non-drinker, so it doesn't appear upon it.

Yeah, you don't drink the fact anyway.

So we we do get discounts from the restaurant and and such um for food and beverages.

So um that would be one thing.

Um, but I just wanted to make sure that we're not you know breaking any rules or laws that you know, because we are members, so that's my only question.

Yeah, and I'm not gonna hound it and I don't care because like I say, the council probably approve it without their votes.

Yeah, on these kind of things, you know, I'd want more detail before I could it fully answer the question, more details about the relationship, what kind of benefits are received.

My general style is hopefully people know is if there's even a concern of a question, it's never inappropriate to just recuse yourself if you're worried about that.

Okay, um, I'm just I would leave that up to the individual members on this one when there's not I'd want to look at it in more detail to understand it's just a thought that entered my head, and I just you know I don't want to make sure we get don't have any issues down the road.

Sure, thank you.

Thank you, Ron.

Any other public comment?

Okay, seeing none, I'll go ahead and turn it back over to the council.

Councilman Parrish.

Um to answer question.

Not anything to do with the food and food part of it, Ron.

This is just the liquor license.

Okay, so the discounts that I might get from the restaurant part that's not affected.

If I was voting on that, yes, I would recruise myself.

But I'm not gonna recuse myself on this for that reason.

Are you okay with that?

Okay, okay, councilman Annis.

I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion to approve the uh liquor license for guru that oasis located 100 Palmer Lane.

Councilwoman Gallo.

I'll second.

Okay, call for the vote.

Parish ISI.

Gallo I think, yeah.

Okay, the motion passes.

Yes.

Okay, 7.5.

Consideration of approval of the second amendment draft to the development agreement executed between the Dixie and Ann Levitt Family Foundation and the City Mesquite for the Heritage Park project.

Mr.

Kim?

Ms.

Red.

It's not my I tend that would be me.

Oh, Miss Green.

Thank you.

Well, although we did the agreements together, but um, so this this is regarding the heritage park across the street.

So the city mesquite and the Dixie and Levitt Found Family Foundation entered into a development agreement on August 10th, 2021.

On May 14th, 2024, a first amendment to the agreement was approved in a city council meeting.

And it's an agreement that Travis and Simon and I worked on together.

This is a draft for a second amendment to the agreement, which has been presented to us by the foundation, which addresses building H, which is a new building that would be under construction.

It's not existing, and a ground floor use to allow for the construction of apartments instead of commercial businesses.

Thank you.

Any questions from council?

Councilman Annis, your lights still on.

Is that from before?

Councilman Wanless.

I was for that.

I felt strongly had there was too much there for the amount of parking you were gonna have and everything else.

But the commercial aspect of this is what makes it so beneficial for the city.

If you put a park in the middle of a residential neighborhood, people in this community will think it's a park for those residents.

If there's commercial on the bottom, and people will go to the commercial and the parks there for their benefit, also that was the design process, that was a thought process for what happened when it was approved in the first place.

Again, I agree wholeheartedly with the first change, but I'm having a hard time agreeing with this because if there's no commercial on that bottom floor, I think the whole concept of what was supposed to be there is going to be lost, and I think the city's gonna lose something that started out as something that was really beneficial to the city.

Councilwoman Gellow.

So I have a this is rather confusing.

So I want to know how the city benefits, number one, um, in the fact that the city is now is responsible for all landscape walkways, sure shade structures, the water, the water course, water features, the pump station, outdoor theater, the patio, uh, lawn and sitting area, uh, the monuments that are being put up, and additionally, I understand that we're going to be paying for a full-time employee there, plus a part-time employee to help.

Um, I think it said something about the uh chlorine.

So could you clarify that?

Because I it just seems like the city's paying for an awful lot, and now there's not gonna be retail.

So the city's paying for a lot.

What is the city benefit from it?

anybody anybody in the last agreement was my understanding that the full-time employee at the park was removed.

That was part of the agreement for taking some of the buildings out of the equation.

But that was on that was on this stuff that you sent recently, said a full-time employee.

No, I didn't send you that one.

Oh, hold on a second, guys.

Good.

Sorry, Crescent.

Hold on a second.

I have it right here if you want me to read it.

This was uh the first amendment.

So it says uh once constructed, the city shall maintain the park consistent with its normal and customary park maintenance operations.

The requirement for the city to assign a full-time staff member to maintain the park is hereby eliminated from the agreement.

So it's gonna be just in the normal rotation of all the parks.

The city shall have full discretion as to how and the staffing needed to maintain the park.

So thank you.

You're right.

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you, Mayor.

So I really like the commercial aspect of it.

I think it looks amazing.

I've walked around several times.

I mean, it looks great.

It really is adding um value to our downside downtown area.

Um, when I did talk to Mr.

Hardy a few weeks ago, he explained to me that the commercial still would be there in the event they needed it, that they could take out some of the I mean that it would go commercial uh, I mean rentals up, and then the down would could still be commercial later if if the other buildings sent sold out with commercial that they could renovate those bottom units, correct?

Okay, so not anymore now.

You just want building H to B all rentals.

You you want these guys to come forward now?

Yeah, all right, come on forward, guys.

Okay, let's uh from my standpoint, I'm gonna say be very clear to what some of the comments here.

So love to have commercial.

I'm sure that the Levitt Foundation would love to have commercial.

As you can see over there, we have uh four buildings over there, uh what it close to 10,000 square feet setting without a we've got one patron over there that's actually interested in putting a restaurant over there.

And so and that's because the Levitt Foundation is actually joined up with somebody to bring them in to help help that.

You've got commercial setting all over town.

I can just identify every commercial area in town that is got vacants there.

So the concern that I think that the Levitt Foundation has is if we go commercial another set of commercial, you actually are setting yourself up for a blighted community if you don't fill those places up.

So if you go with apartments down there, at least you've got activity over there, single bedroom activity.

Uh I guess I'll leave that up to the Levitt Foundation.

But from the park status to answer your question, what park don't you maintain?

What pumps don't you maintain?

What what sprinkler systems don't you maintain?

You have a nice park that's actually there for family and adult use.

We've got parks all over this town, and this one was gifted to the city, and it's a very nice park.

Uh, I think that it was uh done way above the standards that would any park that you've put in so far.

So that's that's my opinion.

So thank you.

Uh Crescent, what do you just state your name for the record?

Crescent Hardy, Littlefield, Arizona.

Thank you.

I just wanted to thank you for clarifying that.

So the park is actually going to be belong to the city.

Okay.

That's what I guess with some of the confusion came in because I thought that it was part of the property and that the city was maintaining.

So it's a gift.

It's yes, I'm I'm Mark Levitt.

I'm the president of the uh Dixie and Ann Levitt Family Foundation.

Uh and and yes, uh the park has actually been deeded.

There's some issues uh that uh that came up through uh the title company, but I believe those have all been resolved.

Uh and that the park is a gift from the Dixie Nan Levitt Family Foundation uh to the Virgin Valley, the community, and to the city of Musquete.

Uh our intention was to be able to uh present uh a uh a depiction of the founding of the valley uh of the uh the founding families that have done that.

How look, can I ask how how many of you have walked through and and seen the park?

Uh it it uh I I invite you to to take a moment and kind of walk through this because it is a remarkable piece of history that takes you from the very founding of these feathers valley uh and and and and those that that paid the dear price to be able to get it to where it is now.

Uh it is a uh uh, you know, the the concern of of it being a park for uh for the apartments.

Um I think as you walk through and see the connection that you can make to the uh uh to the uh the historical society uh right next door and the things that we can try to do to express uh what they are.

This is this is not a not necessarily a community park.

Uh it is a historical park and a heritage park to be able to make an expression of gratitude to those that have that have uh that have given so much to be able to make the Virgin Valley what it is.

Um it's it is a um anyway.

We're we're we're very excited to to uh to do this.

Uh and and our our goal was to have it all be commercial.

But as Crescent said, we we sit over here with 10,000 square feet.

We have literally had to partner uh with uh with one of the restaurants to come in that's coming in.

Very excited about when he's uh about what it is and what it's coming in, and I'm working very hard.

I'm gonna be meeting with another one tomorrow uh about bringing another really high quality uh food establishment in.

Uh but uh it's hard here.

Uh and and uh rental rates are so low on the commercial side that while this is very much a uh uh I mean again there's no there's no uh developer here, there's no greedy developer.

This is the foundation.

This is a 501c3 nonprofit.

Our goal is is to be able to create the uh the park to be able to gift it to mesquite and then to be able to have these buildings that will help to be able to somehow pay back over time.

Right now, uh it's gonna be a really long time, but that's okay.

That's its job.

It's a 501c3 nonprofit.

We're hoping that this becomes something that for generations will be of benefit uh to the community.

Thank you.

Councilman Parish.

Thanks for that presentation.

Um, because I'm really unfamiliar with it.

I'm uh you can ask Christian, I'm kind of a rookie.

Um so if you build this building and put residential down there, say you rent out the 10,000 feet.

Do you guys sit in it?

Can it be converted back to commercial?

Readily.

I mean, I readily I believe so.

Uh, you know, I mean, again, uh this has been kind of part of the discussion.

Uh we believe that it can be done, yes, but it uh it would be more uh office type thing than it would be uh restaurants and and those type of things.

Uh but you you can I we again I'm not a contractor and and uh but that's that's my belief.

A mayor and city concept that that was actually my uh proposer.

I actually offered them to go for the commercial ready.

So the building first floor would be built as uh on the basis of the commercial standard, and then uh they originally uh right now use it as a uh residential apartment, and then they convert it back to commercial with when the time comes.

The problem is after that offer was uh went out, they are now trying to change the agreement into the residential permanently.

So that is my concern.

So if that is acceptable, then uh there shouldn't be any reason to change uh that development agreement because it is commercial and uh our offer was uh commercial ready.

Um if it is not acceptable and if uh if the Dixie Foundation wants to build a residential only, then only the development agreement need to be devised.

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you.

Can you tell me how many rooms um this building H would have?

How many rentals?

There are 21.

21 of them?

Yes, yes, one bedroom.

Um there are four of them, I believe, that are uh two bedroom and the rest are one bedroom.

Okay.

With that calculation, Mr.

Kim, how many parking places would they need?

Oh I didn't actually calculate the parking because from the first time we would qualify for the parking distance.

You would okay, that's what I wanted to make sure, because first of all, secondly, uh where it's under the redevelopment district, we don't need to qualify.

But we have done that.

You'll also notice that when we originally did this, there were three additional buildings that were planned to be put into this facility.

Uh and and as we came as we came on and looked at it, it was not going to be much of a park.

Right.

It was going to be a facility full of buildings.

Uh and we, and and this is a big part of why it's taken us so long, is because we've had to figure out how do we now go backwards, how do we retrack so that we can make this what it has become.

Uh, I mean, if you haven't been there, walk over.

Well, I mean, I walked through it the other day, and I'm just I'm just I was just very excited about how it's turned out.

And when that when that river is going, it really is per quite you know spectacular.

And then also what you guys did, which I have to applaud you, is that amphitheater moving that and making it bigger instead of being on the back of the building there, it looks fabulous.

So I can't wait to start going and seeing some acts and music and stuff in there as well.

Yeah, it it is and and again uh it's truly our belief that this can be generational, that this can be a great uh piece of heritage for for Mesquite, and and we are very proud to have been a part of that.

Uh at this point in in time, uh, you know, we hope to be able to fill uh all of this with commercial.

We'd love to be able to have uh, you know, a really good selection of of things that people come and and grab a uh donut or grab a burger, a pizza or whatever, and sit out in the park and be able to enjoy it.

Uh that is our purpose and our goal.

Uh it just doesn't seem to be lining up quite as quickly and as easily.

Uh and in order to be able to make this function, uh, you know, and and we can we can go without building a and that becomes really the other option uh because it it's just to uh to to build it uh to where we have it as a at a commercial ready standard uh and then put it into apartments.

We we believe we could make apartments uh or we could make commercial out of what the apartments are uh or will be set to, but to be able to redesign it and to do all of those things, we're kind of at a point where it's like we'll we either need to build it and finish this park the way that we think it uh ought to be, or we just need to move on.

And that was my other question.

Um if this doesn't get approved for rental only, are you still okay with doing the keeping the without the second amendment with commercial build the rooms and see if they fill up?

Um because I'm not sure.

It looks like you there's probably three or four cars in the parking lot, so I'm not sure how many rentals of the existing rentals you have rented already.

I I'm disappointed too.

I I'm disappointed too I I am actually really shocked because of the location and everything that because I think I only see three cars.

The the work that these gentlemen have done has been absolutely remarkable both in the park and in the facilities themselves we hope that it will take off.

I I have come here prepared today to say unless we can move forward in some logical way we'll just leave it vacant.

Yeah because I would actually like to see the commercial on the bottom because I envisioning that you know commercial on that whole bottom floor people walking around enjoying it.

So would we but the only thing worse than having uh not having commercial on the bottom is to have empty commercial on the bottom minister can I make a comment thank you our finance director wanted to make a comment she's on the line.

Nikki Yes are you there?

She wanted to comment about the property tax with the 501c3 um mayor council um martine and and citizens my question is is a as a 501c3 does the foundation pay property tax the foundation pay property tax property tax property tax i i believe but I don't think well I hope you're not asking me who are you asking so the question that I'm asking is because so all this whole project um it's a very it's a very nice project on the on the boulevard but you guys are asking what's the benefit to the city I mean there is a benefit there's an additional park there there's potentially some additional um commercial but if the city isn't getting any property tax um there there's a valid question there I I believe I believe we pay property tax on uh on whatever we are uh whatever we've invested in we we have facilities uh one of our main uh pro purposes is uh is uh student housing up at uh southern Utah University and I believe we pay top property tax on all that uh in in Nevada uh you'd have to answer because I don't know I mean I'm willing to do the research on it what's that yeah I I would think that they would every yeah but 501 I don't know the answer off the top of my head I'm trying to find some direction right now myself so um any other questions from council all right gentlemen we'll we'll let you sit back down I do believe that the only benefit that a 501c3 gets in in the state of Nevada is a benefit from no sales tax I think they'll pay you property taxes and everything else okay all right with that we're gonna go ahead and open the public comment period dominic olive and I'm getting my steps in today thank you mayor uh I hate to see that residential but the time to talk about this was in the beginning right now these gentlemen have a point if they can't fill that with businesses then we're gonna have another ghost town we got enough empty buildings down here now you know if they can put residential in there and they're making some money on it they may be able to the point to discount rent for businesses to come in and that way they could keep that full and have some income you know because if people are coming in and living there they're gonna spend money in town anyway that's the only benefit to the city uh I think that uh these gentlemen have you between a rock and a hard spot if you vote no you're screwing up if you vote yes you're only halfway messing up so you should approve it because you know we don't want another set of empty buildings in town thank you thanks Dominic Rick McIntyre I I just like to lend my voice to the applicants here in support of that we had a very brief conversation in our uh master plan committee about this at 250 a square foot versus a dollar 25 dollar sixty a square foot down it's it's really difficult for them to try to to get that kind of uh uh lease and it's a tough choice but I I I understand what the original intent was and it and it sort of made some sense it just isn't working and these are some very smart people that are that are applying and talking to you about this uh I absolutely would lend my support to letting them do what they're asking to do.

And it's a tough choice, but I I I understand what the original intent was, and it and it sort of made some sense, it just isn't working.

And these are some very smart people that are that are applying and talking to you about this.

Uh I absolutely would lend my support to letting them do what they're asking to do.

Thank you.

Thank you, Rick.

Mayor and City Council.

Um just uh this development agreement was uh um actually started, I believe, to create uh downtown within the downtown area.

So uh the pigeon was to have a first floor throughout the entire complex, right uh commercial, and then uh park with within it so people can enjoy the park and do the shopping around.

Now another thing is uh there is no building right now.

So we uh what if we are worrying about empty building, uh yeah, worrying too much because uh uh they can delay the development uh so they can wait when market comes and build a building with a first floor commercial, or uh stable offer them the commercial ready development so that they can have a residential first, and then when market comes, they can convert it into the commercial.

Then we don't need to actually uh amend the uh development agreement here.

So uh I don't see any reason to amend the by amending it only allows is it let them have a per permanent residential on the ground floor.

So if they satisfied with the commercial ready, then I don't see any reason to amend this uh development agreement.

Thank you.

Mayor, if I may jump in real quick too.

I I was able to get some more verification there.

The organization potentially could be exempt from paying property tax if the property was on exclusive or use was exclusively for charitable religious or educational purposes.

This property is not used exclusively for those purposes, so it would appear that it wouldn't be exempt, wouldn't be able to qualify for an exemption from the property tax.

We uh we we'd like to be able to figure out where we're headed and move on.

Uh the uh the our we've spent way too much time and frankly plenty of of money on both the park and the and the development.

Uh I I believe that the city would be greatly enhanced having a building on that corner because it finishes the park.

It finishes it all off to have a vacant lot and an empty spot.

I just don't uh you know I if if if we don't build now, I I it would not be my plan to come back and build again.

So are you okay with the idea of having a commercial ready for future use?

Commercial ready makes us start over again with new with new design with new planning, uh both expense and uh to the point where I don't believe so.

Okay.

Any other public comment?

Okay, seeing that I'm gonna turn it back over to council.

Do we have a motion?

So I think our options are one to deny it and say it's either bottom story commercial or not, or two to say it is can be all residential.

Yes, if uh you approve this one, then it'll be the first floor residential permanently right.

Do I have a motion or councilman wonless?

I'm gonna make a motion to deny this request unless they will build it the way it was first put with commercial ready on the bottom one way or another, I'm gonna go home tonight and feel good.

Because what we will have done is we have a way to move forward or it's no over.

And I I'm I I don't want to start over again.

And uh at this point in time, uh I would uh and you know I've got a board, uh, but speaking uh for the foundation at this point in time.

Uh if we uh if we are if we're denied, then I think we go home and we leave an empty spot, which again I think is a sad thing for the community.

Councilman Ennis?

I'm gonna second that motion to Councilman Walmilus made.

Okay, coffee.

I need some guidance on how to vote.

If I vote yay, what's happening?

Is it in favor of councilman Wanners' motion?

We denied it.

Yes.

Okay.

So a yes vote would be in favor of the motion and yeah, parish no.

NSI.

Yes, I'll go along with the rest of the county.

I don't think she heard you.

So she said yes.

I'll say yes.

So three.

So yes, is basically they're not gonna continue with the project.

So okay, so I do have a concern about that though.

I don't want to make the report okay.

I guess all right.

Motion passes.

Thank you, gentlemen.

Um item 7.6 consideration approval of amendment two to interlocal facility license agreement between the city of Musquite and Clark County commencing on December 1st, 2025 to November 20th, 2030, with five and one year options to renew.

Ms.

Green.

So on December 7th, 2021, the county and the city executed an interlocal facility license agreement to use um a portion of City Hall by the Clark County Clerk's office, and that was to do um notary renew notaries, uh marriage licenses.

So it's really been a nice benefit to the city.

The parties entered into an amendment on October 11th, 2022 to extend the term of the agreement to November 30th, 2025, and wish to agree to a second amendment to extend the interlocal agreement.

So at this point, um with the original agreement, we are not charging them for the space, but it's basically it's in the middle pod in the building downstairs, and it's a 10 by 10 room.

And the original agreement said that in consideration of county's provision of valuable services to the community, city agrees to waive monthly use payments during the term of this agreement.

County acknowledges that the monthly use payment may increase in successive terms.

In other words, we're happy that they're in the building, and we'd like to continue having them here in the building.

So this is to extend it for five years.

Okay, thank you.

Do we have any questions from council?

Okay, seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and open up the public comment.

Seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and close the public comment and turn it back over to council.

Councilman Ennis.

I'm gonna make a motion to approve the uh amendment to the local the facility license agreement between the city of Musquite and Clore County.

Okay, do I have a second?

I'll second.

Okay, call for the vote.

Or should I NSI okay?

The motion passes.

Item 7.7 consideration approval of the city of Musquite funding a part-time watershed coordinator at 40,000 dollars a year.

Ms.

Green.

Um so this is this is a request from the Virgin River Coalition for us to fund on an annual basis um a part-time employee at 40,000.

So in the past, we've given the the Virgin River Coalition 30,000 from Fund 21, which was a match to a grant that they had requested.

So at this point, there really isn't a grant match.

Um, and last year we had the front desk person work half the time for the VRC, equaling approximately 20 so 27,000 dollars, but that was kind of difficult because she was trying to do to split her time between the two jobs and trying to answer two different phones, and it it just became a a little bit difficult.

So I think the the Virgin River Coalition was going back to okay, we would just like a part-time person.

Um I don't really know where that person would go because at this point we've closed the visitor center.

Um anyway.

Okay, any questions from council?

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you.

Nikki, are you still on the phone?

Yes, I am.

I don't remember approving this in our budget this year.

Um this wasn't this wasn't approved in the budget.

It was approved in the budget that this front desk clerk would be split between the general fund and fund 21 because that's what was going on at the time that we were doing the budget.

That's correct.

So this says so with just clarification to the group when you guys have a second after Ridicus done.

This is one part-time coordinator for 40,000 a year, one part-time.

Yes.

And how many hours is that a week?

20?

Five.

Okay.

I just wanted, I mean, and I'm sure they'll get up and clarify that in a second as well.

But those are just some of the questions I have.

Um thank you.

Councilman Wanless.

Living in the middle of the desert, I assume that watershed management is quite important for the city for everyone around us.

And do I wish the city didn't have to pay 40,000 a year to have somebody help coordinate those activities?

Yes, but are they necessary in the case of a desert setting?

I believe it is.

So I I'm fully on board with this.

Okay, Councilwoman Gallow.

There's money available.

Okay, so before I think we get ahead of ourselves, if you can explain a little bit better, because I guess the money's there.

That'd be great.

Thank you.

All right, come on forward there, guys.

Hello, my name is Tanya Anderson.

So just to clarify, um, oh, I as I said I'm Tanya Anderson.

I'm uh with the nature conservancy, I'm also supporting uh the Virgin River Coalition.

So I first I just want to extend my gratitude for the city of Mesquite for funding our providing match for a previous grant that we received.

I also wanted to share that um that uh between 1988 and 2012 BLM land sales near Mesquite resulted in the city of Mesquite collecting development impact fees in anticipation of a Virgin River Habitat Conservation Plan that did not come to fruition.

Our understanding is that there are approximately 400,000.

I've heard up to 475,000.

I'm not exactly sure of the exact dollars in funds remaining, um, and whose use is restricted to improving the Virgin River habitat and watershed.

So that's where the 400,000 and the already designated funding uh comes from that we're aware of.

Is there additional questions that we can answer?

So I have a question.

Yes.

So does paying for a part of that employee fall underneath the improving the watershed?

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

That person would be.

Do you want to make continuous?

Yeah, go ahead.

Okay.

So I could start with a little.

Do you guys have a background of the Virgin River Coalition that I could provide for you guys if you'd like it?

Yeah, give us a quick okay.

So for a very long time, there was a Virgin River uh habitat um conservation partnership that was going on.

Probably since about 2004, is my guess.

Maybe it's not quite there, but it's been a very long time.

Um they decided that they wanted to do a watershed plan.

Uh in 2017, uh, there was funding that was awarded to this group to initiate a watershed planning process.

Uh, we pulled together city, state, county, federal employees, community members, uh, NGOs to develop a watershed plan.

We completed that in 2019.

Uh, that first watershed uh that first amount of funding that the city of Mosquite provided was for to help support a grant in which we manage the coordination of this coalition of groups that were working on this.

They did volunteer events, education events, um, and would now talk to the community as well.

Um, we would like to expand that efforts.

Uh we've since then the VRC, Virgin River Coalition has expanded.

Um, it's now 501c3.

So previously it was housed under the Nature Conservancy, and so we were a fiscal manager for the Virgin River Coalition, and now currently they're their own 501c3.

So we would like for this new position to be take a greater leadership role in the community and hosting more events and more educational events and doing more implementation of the watershed plan, which we are wrapping up an updated version uh at the end of probably by the end of December of 2025.

Yeah, thank you.

Questions from council?

Really quick.

Um, sorry, if I got somebody else um I'm I'm on board with what Councilman Wanless said.

So this 400,000, it's there for the purpose of paying this part-time employee.

Am I correct?

And where's it at?

Where's that money at?

Where is that money at?

It isn't our understanding is it's currently held at the city.

It's not specifically to pay this employee.

Okay.

It is it is limited to some use pertinent to the watershed.

And so that so this employee would fall under that auspice of uh the watershed its itself.

So that's so technically those funds are for that employee.

We think so.

Okay.

Nikki, are you still there?

Yep, I'm still here.

It's a legitimate use of those funds.

Um it's one of the few allowable uses.

It's not specifically for that purpose, but it's an allowable purpose.

But we do have that 400,000 under that fund, correct, for that watershed purpose.

We have we have it in fund 21.

Okay, so it is there.

It's not specifically for that purpose, but that is an allowable purpose.

Okay.

So we're just allocating funds that are already there.

So we're not looking for extra money, it's there.

Okay, I think that's easier.

Any other questions?

Clarified online.

All right, okay.

I think you guys are good.

Unless you got George Monsieur.

George, I'd like to add one thing.

This afternoon, we received the first the draft of the current watershed plan.

Um so that's gonna up our game.

We need to do more public events, more awareness, and so on.

And um when we can get approved final approval of the watershed plan, then we can begin to apply for free to funding.

So it's uh at this point, it's really gonna help us out.

Thank you, George.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you.

All right, with that, we're gonna go ahead and open up the uh public comment period.

Uh uh councilmannist, do you have to report?

Oh, yep, we'll go ahead and open up.

I understand 200 dollars.

Uh Dominic Olivetto, Mesquite residents.

Uh in 2019, the Virgin River Coalition diverted from taking care of the watershed by applying for grants to go out and put signage on trails for ATVs towards uh Gold Butte.

I don't think that should be part of the Virgin River coalition, and I don't think the city should give them 40,000 to pay for somebody part-time that was working towards that.

And the reason I know this is because they were guaranteed that the club I'm president of would provide the equipment and and the personnel to run it while they got a grant to pay their person to keep track of what we were doing, and we denied it.

I'm not against totally giving them this money, but I'd like some guarantee that they're gonna take care of the watershed and leave the rest of the damn dirt to the other people.

Thank you.

Thanks, Dominic.

Yeah.

Um I'm fairly new to the board, and I'm not aware of what Dominic just told us.

Um, and I'm amazed, and I'm happy to guarantee him that the money's not going to signage.

Thank you, George.

Okay, seeing no one else come forward, I'll turn it back over to council.

Councilman Ennis.

I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion to approve the uh funding of part-time watershed coordinator for 40,000 dollars.

Councilwoman Gallow?

I'll second.

Okay, call for the vote.

NSI.

Galloway.

Okay, a motion passes.

Item 7.8 consideration of appointment and ratification of Rebecca Lynn Shroop for the position of city manager of the city of Mesquite.

And this is my um item.

We uh had about over 50 applicants for the city manager, um 60.

Uh we selected it down to a top 10.

We had um, I feel a very solid hiring committee.

That hiring committee kind of picked a uh top three, but in a lot of their minds, Rebecca was the top one of those top three.

Um in speaking to all of them, looking into all of them.

She stood out, she has showed um toughness, intelligence in her job.

She's been in charge of a city.

And granted, I know a lot of people are concerned about the size of that those cities she was, but she has been in charge of cities for about nine years now and and successfully and dealt with some issues in those cities.

And is she the perfect candidate?

No.

Is there a perfect candidate?

No, but I I've talked with her extensively.

I feel like she is a good candidate.

I feel like she is somebody that can grow with our city, that's going to listen to the council, to the department heads, but that also has the strength to tell us, me, these guys, and the department heads no, if she needs to.

Um, and so I think she will do a great job.

And along with our support and help, I think we can she can be very successful here in Musquite.

And um, I would turn it over to the council members for any questions for me.

Um Councilman Parrish.

Thank you, Mayor.

I received a uh employment agreement back three or four weeks ago from uh our interim city manager.

The present employment agreement before us has a line in the first paragraph that goes against the city charter.

And I will read this line, and we as a council should not approve this employment agreement with this line in it.

If a it says if a new mayor or council member are elected during the term of this agreement, there cannot be a vote to remove the city manager until six months following such an election.

What that means is if our former city manager had that clause in his contract, we would not have been able to fire him.

This is totally unacceptable, and I would defer to the attorney that uh he needs to make sure he tells us this is a conflict of a city charter, but I believe it is, and we should delete that line from her employment agreement.

So under the charter, section 3.030, it says the mayor and city council may vote to determine whether to remove a city manager.

This is the city manager may be removed for any reason, subject to any employment agreement upon receiving four votes for removal.

And so under the charter, it does leave open that there can be uh an employment agreement that can you can agree to modify or or um you know address this issue to where you could agree outside the technical terms of the charter because it does say the city manager may be removed for any reason, subject to any employment agreement upon receiving four votes for removal.

Yeah, councilwoman gallow.

I just want I just want to comment on that.

Um of the things from what I understand from and I was in on interviews, is that city managers tend to get fired very quickly if there's an election and there's a new mayor, a new council because they usually want to put in their own person.

So whoever is city manager at the time tends to be removed very quickly because the new mayor or the new city council coming in decides that they want to put someone else in.

So I feel that this is a protection for her because as elections change, she can lose her job very quickly just because they want to bring in one of their own.

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you, Mayor.

Um, I did not sit in on the interview, however, I did spend um quite a while with her talking.

Went over her resume.

She's very nice, but I don't think she's qualified to be our city manager.

Um, to be honest with you.

I that's just though the way I feel.

I don't think coming from a population of city manager for 5,000 is equivalent to our 25,000.

Um that's that's kind of the that's just the way I felt.

I felt from that way from the beginning again.

Although she's very nice, I think we need somebody to come in here who's strong.

I think the city needs to and so we had 50 applications or 60, but I think, in my opinion, we should have hired a headhunter to go find the best.

So is there the best person?

Yes, and I think that we can find them, but I unfortunately don't feel like uh Ms.

Shroop is that person.

Councilman Wanus.

I also was part of the interviews, and she wouldn't have been my first pick, but I look at the last several city managers we've had that have been the first pick, and that hasn't gone so well for the city.

And in this case, the mayor is the person she'll report to.

The mayor has to be the one that feels strongly about that.

And no one ever questioned our previous mayor when these other people that lasted less than 18 months and were gone.

We're hired.

I I don't know where this is coming from, but I trust the mayor.

I've spoken with her.

I think she'd do a good job.

And I think it would be good.

I don't think she'd come in here trying to change the city.

I think she'd come in here and learn and be an asset to our managers and to the city itself.

And I think it would be beneficial to the city to have someone just like her.

So my vote will be absolutely yes.

Councilman Ennis.

So my my put input on this is uh I don't think anybody sitting up here or anybody out there walks into a new job with the qualifications that they need or that they're expected to have.

I walked, I when I was in the military, I went from a little dinky command of about 200 people in San Diego to a command in Washington, DC of over 7,000 people worldwide with a 2.1 billion dollars budget.

Was I qualified for that?

Probably not.

Did I do it?

Damn right I did.

And I think that she wouldn't matter if you come from a city of 5,000 or a city of 50,000, she's gonna be able to come in here and do what she needs to do and get the job done.

Everybody needs that opportunity to grow.

And how are we gonna do that if we don't give her that opportunity?

She reports to the mayor, reports to us, and I think that we uh need to give her that opportunity.

Councilman Parrish.

I just don't like the fact that every two years, there's six months that we can't discipline her if the if the need arises.

We that clause has never been people, and I even looked at one way back in two 2019.

That clause has never been in there.

We need to eliminate that clause.

We need to hold her accountable.

And we can't go a year and a half where she's accountable to us, and then she's got six months that she's not accountable to us.

That just doesn't work.

She works for us, you guys.

We need to make sure we hold her feet to the fire every day and every month.

She can't have six free months every two years.

I'm sorry.

Councilwoman Gellow.

I'm I'm not really sure what you're referring to as far as six months every two years.

That's not really what that's for.

It's really just a safety.

Um we can discipline her at any time and we can fire her at any time.

Am I correct?

No.

No, it's no.

So the way the agreement as it stands right now says at any time in which a new mayor or at least three new council members are elected in an election cycle.

So I think what councilman Parrish is saying, every two years we have an election cycle.

So if we get a new mayor, that invokes the provision.

There'd be six months where there couldn't be a vote to remove her.

If the current mayor keeps his seat and there's no change there, then the clause isn't invoked.

She could be fired.

But it it would well, it's one of two ways either a new mayor or three new council members.

And so in an election cycle, if say there's only two new council members that get elected and one retains their seat, then you can move forward on terminating as long as the same mayor was there.

So it's not automatic that there'd be a six-month period every two years.

It would depend on the results of the election.

You know, if there's a new mayor, say the mayor didn't want to run again, then that would automatically invoke it.

And then the other way, there'd have to be three new council members that are elected during that election cycle.

Um that doesn't include uh four cop that doesn't include a four cause termination, correct?

Under the terms here, it just says that there'd be that uh it doesn't differentiate between four cause or not for cause.

I need to interject one thing, Adam, before you go too far out on the limb.

If you read the paragraph, it does not say three council members, it just says council members.

It was three, it does say three.

Three on mine.

On my on my computer, it does not say three.

It's it does say at any time in which a new mayor or at least three new council members are elected in an election cycle during the term of the agreement.

So you might have a prior version that we edited and changed.

Okay.

I I just wanted to to add that I had I had an opportunity to spend quite a bit of time with um Becca and also speak with her on the phone.

I know she's spoken with some residents.

I think she's a very strong candidate.

She's come up against a lot of controversy and handled it very, very well.

Um she's made uh some comments to the effect that you always do the right thing, even when people don't always understand why some of these decisions are being made, and as you can see, as things are happening in the city, there's a lot of decisions that are made that sometimes people don't understand.

I think she's a great candidate.

I think she'll be a breath of fresh air for the city.

I think we need um a little bit of change.

She's got a really nice way about her, but she's strong, and I think that that's what the city needs right now.

I think she'll work great with the council.

I think she'll work great with the mayor and the city and the directors, please fire.

Um, I think she's a great candidate.

So I'm I'm all for councilman Wallace.

I just have one question in there in the agreement.

Could there something be something in there that says unless for cause yes?

I mean, you could approve this subject to a change to the agreement, and that could be presented to her if she would accept that.

I don't think anyone should get off if there is cause to let them go.

If somebody comes in new and just wants to put their person in and there's no reason to do that, I'm fine with it having to take six months.

But if there is cause and we can prove it, and we have four votes from council and mayor to let her go, we can do that at any time.

And if we just had to add to the agreement, unless for cause, she would know she was safe unless she did something that was wrong and there was cause to terminate her.

And I think if we did that, maybe it would alleviate a lot of problems or a lot of concerns up here.

Councilman Parish.

We are in the middle of a lawsuit, and I'm just trying to make sure that if we don't have something, some clause in there that if we happen to fire her three months after the election for cause, then she brings this back and throws it down our throat.

We could be in a lawsuit, and I don't want that.

I want to make sure that we're on solid, solid ground, and I agree with Councilman Wallace.

If you was to add four cause in that sentence, I'd be all for it.

Thank you.

I will.

Okay.

Well, we need to have public comments.

We need to have public comments.

So okay, we're gonna go ahead and open up public comment.

Mr.

Mayor, city, city council members.

I'm John Rosen, citizen of Mesquite.

Um, I've heard some things in this last conversation that were quite shocking to me.

Um, first of all, you finally got to the right answer in terms of adding a four-cause clause for it I why it took so long to get to that answer is a little bit surprising to me, but you did get to the right answer.

Um, if anyone refused to agree to a contract that said they could not be fired for cause, that would be immediate justification for disqualification.

Immediate.

Um, I share the concerns that were expressed about the uh experience and qualifications for this candidate, and I have shared those with you in writing.

Uh, I know.

I also have heard from all of you that various positions in terms of the qualifications for this person.

The one thing I heard that was completely shocking to me was that it's up to the mayor, it's not up to the city council.

That is not true.

The mayor selects a candidate for approval by the city council, and anyone who thinks that your approval in that situation would abdicate your responsibility for making the right choice is very, very disturbing.

This is a job that all of you are responsible for, the mayor and the city council, and if this person is a bad hire, it will reflect on each and every one of you.

Now, I'm not going to question the hiring processes that you came to or your decisions or how you got to them.

I think that's up to you.

I am not a part of it.

Um certainly I would be more comfortable if I had been a part of it, then I'd know what some of the thinking was that you have for you.

But just know this is a critically important job, and you only get one chance to get it right.

Thank you.

Thanks, John.

Can I make a public comment?

Yeah, let after them.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

We'll let you do it at the end, Martin.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Okay, ladies and before gentlemen.

I just wanted to say that um I have gone through, I have reported to four city managers in five years, four years.

I have stepped in.

This is my third time now.

So I, more than anyone, want to make sure that we're bringing someone that is is gonna be good for all of us.

I mean, I don't want to have to do this again, believe me.

I'm done.

And so I spent quite a bit of time with her.

She came twice.

I've talked to her on the phone, I've texted her, I've emailed her, I spent a whole day with her, and I listened to what she said very carefully.

And um, she has a very nice demeanor.

And I think that she could make some strong decisions when needed, because that's one of the things that she kept mentioning is that you have to follow what is the policy.

Um you have to do the right thing, even though, like, like Patty said, that not everyone in the public always knows the whole backstory, but you have to do the right thing.

And so I liked everything that she said, and I think I could work really closely with her, and I in my it's just my opinion that I think that um I think that she would be good for us.

So I just wanted to give you my opinion.

Thank you, Martine.

Mike?

Mayor Council.

For the first time, I think I agree with Paul.

Our history on previous cities managers is worse than the Jets record, and they're owing fire, okay?

Let's look at the city manager we had.

One resigned immediately.

Now is in court being sued, along with a council person.

Number two, he didn't do such a good job and was convinced to resign.

The last city manager, he brought up the fire him because he made racial comments about African American women, and it was a good decision, it was the right decision.

When you talk about experience with people, how much experience did you have before you came mayor?

None.

How about you?

How much experience did you have dealing with the public apart from real estate?

None.

And you've made some really bad choices.

No, I'm serious.

You know, when you voted for the previous city manager, was not a good move.

And to interrupt the prayer was even worse, in my opinion.

I think you should give this lady a chance.

The city needs to heal.

Bill and I have talked about it.

And the only way this is the city is gonna heal is to bring somebody in here who is not afraid to make good decisions and get the city back on track and get the city back to where it used to be.

Not the Hatfields and the McCoy's do her job.

And if she has to fire somebody for doing something wrong, fine, fire them.

I have no problem with that.

And I don't think he does either.

I know when I work for employee did something wrong, he would have fired me in a New York minute.

Correct?

Correct.

Thank you.

So I say give her the chance, do it, let her do a good job.

And if she doesn't do a good job, then you know what you got to do, right?

Done it for what, four of them?

So one more wouldn't, you know what I mean?

But let's move on.

Give her the chance, please.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mike.

Jeff Reynolds.

I don't know this lady.

I don't know anything about her, other than some people said she managed a small town, a couple of different places.

But that's not how you necessarily hire.

Just because somebody's a CEO of a corporation doesn't mean they've got great leadership.

Doesn't mean that they've got intelligence, that they don't have the hootzpa to uh stand up to the unions or the the good old boys like we have here in Besquete.

You know, that's what I look for.

Somebody that's honest, it's got integrity, and looks out for the best.

Um, and has a backbone to stand up and say no.

And I haven't seen that in this council or around for a lot of things.

We had a 417,000 dollar bathroom, which was totally ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

You know, and people just because there's money there, you you spend it.

I don't agree with that.

You know, if it was your own money, you wouldn't spend it, at least I hope you wouldn't.

Anyway, let's hire somebody that's got intelligence, that's got uh common sense, and and has the integrity to run this city and to say no to everybody that uh comes up with one of these ideas like putting a driving range around Falcon Ridge.

Anyway, thank you.

Thank you, Jeff.

I cut in line, yes, I did.

Nick Alfonsetti, Mayor, Counsel.

Uh I just say this.

Mayor, how many people have you hired in the past few years?

Quite a few.

Okay.

How many?

Hundreds.

You're tired.

Did you ever hire anybody?

Hundreds.

Hundreds?

Okay.

I think we're all in the same boat.

And if the mayor's opinion is she's going to be a good candidate, she was the strongest candidate that showed up that came in that had no faults as far as attending, as far as submit submitting to questions, answering questions, can follow what she said is right, meaning the laws of the city in the code.

I think you got yourself a candidate that's solid.

And if you would hire her in your business, would you?

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Would you?

You got your answer.

You know, like I said, you take and you go someplace and you weren't served right.

Don't blame the worker, blame the manager, because the manager instructed them how to do something.

Okay, and it's up to you to give her guidance where it's needed.

And maybe you don't agree with it, Karen.

That's okay.

Okay.

You can work with her, you can guide her, you can instruct her, just like the rest of you.

You got a solid person that's willing to come here, get a home, become a part of this community, and make us grow and become real and do the right thing.

I keep repeating myself.

Do the right thing for everybody.

That's all that we expect.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Nick.

Dominic Olivetto.

Am I allowed to bring a baseball bat to control him?

Uh oh, you're gonna never mind.

I'll uh a few meetings ago I brought up the uh economic development of Carbon County, and uh that you y'all remember that.

Now, the reason I'm saying this lady's probably a good choice because at the time that Price Utah, the largest town in Carbon County got all of the businesses in.

There was 7500 people in that town, and the city manager went out and got those people because he was a small town guy, and he didn't know what he was supposed to do.

All he knew is we needed businesses, and he went and did it.

Now, Halper City's smaller than that, and that's where my summer home is, and their city manager.

Heck, got one of the best lumber yards in the state, two grocery stores.

You know, I think a small town person would be great for this because they'd come in and they'd be looking at what the people wanted and needed instead of trying to be heroes from a big city.

Thank you.

Thanks, Tomin.

And by the way, I did agree with you for once, mayor.

I could spend more than once, Ronald Shackleford.

Um yeah, she's from a small town, big deal.

So was I.

I started my own business and ran a successful business for a long time.

Um, yeah, it's a dairy town.

Oh well, big deal.

She's been the city manager of that community since 2023 of July.

Um she's worked in other towns that are even a little smaller as a city manager.

I talked, I did my research.

I talked to her mayor, I emailed him.

I said, Hey, what kind of person is she?

Is she she a good candidate?

Um, tell me about her, right?

Right.

The mayor wrote back that exact same night from his iPhone.

He says, Ron, thanks for reaching out.

Becca, which is what she likes to go by, can handle herself quite well.

She's done a good job for us over the last two years.

Morris has its challenges too.

It seems no city is immune to the drama these days.

I'm going to leave it at that.

I emailed her, asked her why she would even want to be here.

Does she realize what this city has gone through in the past couple years, where we're at right now, and such?

And um her response was I did do my research on mesquite.

She knows what's going on.

She knows what's happening here.

All right.

I even took a couple trips out there to talk with more staff counsel and be in the city before deciding if this was the right place for my family and I.

She's gonna uproot her family, she's gonna bring them here.

I know there are a lot of things that have come out and a lot of negatives going on.

I did have conversations about all of these.

You think we interviewed her.

You think she didn't interview Mesquite?

Yeah, she knows what she's stepping into.

Becca mayor once again said she can handle herself quite well.

I also called some businesses in that little town and talked to business owners.

What do you think about your city manager?

She's gonna be greatly missed if she leaves this community.

She is a great person and does a great job.

So I did my research.

I think Becca is your choice, and I highly recommend that you guys approve her for this position.

We need somebody in Mesquite.

She's getting tired of doing it.

We know that, right?

And I agree, maybe throw that little clause in there.

All right, I do agree with that, you know.

And I don't think she's gonna have any problem with that whatsoever.

Becca is going and should be our next city manager.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ron.

Two seconds.

Donna Benita, resident of Mesquite.

What Mr.

Parish just said about in the comment here, I printed this off my computer at 2 33 a.m.

Monday morning.

Yes, I'm a night person.

It says, if a new mayor or council members, it has no number in there, doesn't say three, it just says if a new mayor or council members are elected.

So if that has changed since 233 Monday morning, I don't know who put it on the computer and changed it.

Thank you.

Thank you, Donna.

Rick McIntyre.

Umline, you can watch her entire interview that she had with the current city council that she works for in the city that she currently works at.

And it's wonderful.

I watched the entire thing from start to end.

And uh actually I watched it twice.

Some of the stuff I couldn't quite hear it.

The cameras behind her and the council members are in front of her, and they're interviewing she and several other people.

Um I thought she was just really awesome.

I I'll tell you, I think uh the fact that she comes from a small jurisdiction is in my opinion, irrelevant.

Um, I I started my law enforcement career when I was 18 years old.

I never had peers that were not 10 to 15 years older than me, and I did an entire career like that.

It's not about your age, it's not necessarily about how big of a city you come from.

It's it's what you're all about.

This lady is impressive, really impressive.

I I liked her a lot, and I recommend uh uh your uh employment of her right away.

Thank you.

Thank you, Rick.

Uh seeing no one else step forward, I'm gonna go ahead and uh turn to Councilman Wallace for a motion.

And just to jump in here quick, mayor be under the charter.

You have a vote on this item.

Oh, so then we need four votes of the six in order to pass.

Okay.

I was born and raised in a farming community up in Salt County, Bluffdale.

It was just a township at the time.

In the mid-70s, it incorporated.

There were probably 600 people total in the entire city.

Now, if you go there, you wouldn't even you can walk across rooftops across the city.

That's how much it's grown over the years.

Probably looked a lot like mesquite did when it incorporated back in the 80s.

Everyone starts at the bottom.

But in those small communities, I think is where you learn how to grow.

And the city of Mesquite right now is in the middle of huge growth.

Having somebody that can come in here and help us is exactly what this city needs instead of coming in and trying to run the city.

With that addition, I would like to make a motion that the city hire Rebecca Lynch for the position of our next city manager.

Do I have a second?

I'll second though.

Okay.

Call for the vote.

Aye.

Parish aye.

NSI.

Gallow, definitely I.

Okay, good.

Yep.

Okay.

Thank you.

About time, huh, Martin?

Councilwoman Philly.

Thank you.

Um, I just want to say, you know, everybody's comments, Steph.

Um, although she wouldn't have been my first choice, I didn't interview her.

But if this is the person that the mayor chose, and Ms.

Gala was on the interview committee, then I have to trust your judgment.

Thank you, councilwoman.

And we still have a ways to go.

So item 7.9 discussion regarding interested party to purchase city owned land consisting of 9.31 acres located at 1220 Hardyway, Clark County Assessors Parcel number 002-12-0-701-004, parcel map file 116, page 76 of official records.

Ms.

Green.

Thank you.

So you've probably noticed that there's two items that are regarding the same parcel.

Um, that are that are on the agenda.

So this first item, this is kind of tricky because when we start first started talking with Crown Court Conceal, we could we had an NDA and we really could not reveal who it was.

And so I um I, you know, Adam and I have been working very closely with the Kramers to come up with the contract to bring to a council meeting.

But in the interim, I was contacted by a site selector, and he's on the phone, by the way.

And um to bring in a business, and I asked him, what can I say exactly at this point?

Because I signed an NDA, you did, and Travis and Simon did.

So the four of us know what this item is.

So at this point, what they have done, the site selector is sent a memorandum of understanding, which is basically a contract.

So you don't have to do anything with it at this point because I can't even tell you exactly what this is, but this is what he wanted me to read.

The buyer is a to-be-formed single-purpose entity on behalf of a well-qualified commercial real estate developer with over 45 years experience, who was given a site selection assignment from a large format retail anchor that is typically in excess of 40,000 square feet.

So it's for a store.

Um, I cannot say at this point what it is, but Jake is on the phone.

I don't know if Jake, are you there?

Yeah, I'm here.

Are you on the phone?

Yeah.

I am.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Okay, yeah, I'm here.

Okay, so I read your statement.

Yeah, I think I think that summarizes our current position and what we're able to disclose at this time from our user.

Um the qualifications we can present, is that we're we're well qualified with significant experience, and we'd be given an assignment from uh a retail tenant that would be in excess of 40,000 feet and would locate at that um that location.

And uh and the purpose of the MOU, this is how we've worked with cities in the past is the memorandum of understanding how I would kind of couch it, is it's almost like uh an agreement to agree.

So if if both parties are in agreement with the terms of the of the memorandum of understanding, then we have an understanding in place that if it obligates it obligates us as buyer to do to meet certain criteria and hurdles and thresholds, and if we meet those things, then the city is then bound to honor like a pending contract, it would be forthcoming.

It's a little chicken in the egg, it gets a little complicated, wherein you know, we can't disclose who we have and 100% what we want to do with without tying up the land because the the tenant wants to know they have a location that they can they can facilitate and transact on.

And at the same time, the city doesn't want to proceed with with making a motion and entering into a city binding document if they don't know who the user is.

So we have this kind of catch-22.

So the mechanism we've used in the past to facilitate these types of transactions is this MOU that's basically okay.

If if X, Y, and Z happen, then A B and C happens, and X, Y, and Z category all has to deal with obligations that we would have to satisfy the city with their requirements to justify future development.

And then the ABC that would follow then would be that the city is in fact bound, assuming that the purchaser meets the criteria that they would then place upon them.

So um we're open to other suggestions or recommendations.

Uh we just brought this this scenario forward because we've seen it successful in the past, and we're actually we're actually actively working on another similar situation with another municipality in a similar situation in a different state.

But um, but that's kind of what led us to this point.

And once we brought the MOU forward, that's when it was uh decided that well, we should make this a formal agenda item, and we appreciate your time and consideration.

And I'm happy to answer any questions you may or may not have, and uh we we can go from there.

But uh unfortunately the amount of information I'm at liberty to disclose about the end user is is limited at this point in time without the MOU in place.

Okay, thank you.

I'm gonna go ahead and turn it over to council and uh if they have any questions.

And he has a comment as well to explain this.

Just kind of from my perspective, we have two competing groups that are trying to that would like to get the same property.

So, what we really need is some direction from the council on do we continue to work with this new group?

Do we want to just continue with the creamers?

That's the next agenda item.

So you could depending on what you decide here, you might table that next one or you know, give us some other direction.

Um, I reviewed the MOU in the uh my suggestion in if you want us to continue to entertain this new group, this new potential offer that you would direct us to uh negotiate and edit that mo you or provide an alternate um agreement to the mo you.

The MOU is is very detailed as far as the the transaction and how it would proceed, and the city has used similar um types of agreements in the past and other situations where we have similar criteria, but the the form of the MOU as it is right now, I'd I'd want more direction on saying, yes, we want you to move forward with looking at this option, but not necessarily approve the mo you where that it would need some more work, and in my opinion, um some edits and changes or even a new form of agreement like this city city typically uses.

And I know the that uh Jake was referring to they've worked on this kind of one with other cities.

We kind of have a way that we do it too.

You know, I'd like that opportunity to present them kind of the what the form that we typically use and uh to be consistent with other transactions that we're using, but we really just need direction from the council on on which way to go.

Councilwoman Fielding.

And I was compelled to fully disclose this.

I mean, it's you know, it's city property, it's owned by the residents, and so I was contacted by them, so I was compelled to bring this forward to you.

Councilwoman Phillips.

Thank you, Mayor.

Um, I actually am interested to see what kind of 40,000 square foot building or retail that they would be building there, and um, it would be a great location to have something over there 48,000.

I mean, there's been so many different things gonna be on that corner.

Um, that I actually like the fact too um I would be interested in finding out a little bit more about that moving forward and and um directing them, Adam, to navigate that corner to see what it's gonna be.

Um not to say that the cramers haven't been really good to work with, but if it's gonna this might complement um their project as well, and that's that's my opinion.

Councilman Parish.

So my dad always told me a bird in the hand was worth two in the bush.

Um we got the creamers that have presented us a plan, their overall plan on both sides of Hardy and Falcon Ridge, both sides, an overall plan.

We get somebody comes through and gives us a document.

We're just gonna build a 40,000 square foot building, but we can't tell you what it is.

Well, that doesn't tell me anything.

I'm sorry.

Um I'm I'm of the opinion we need to stick with the creamers, and uh this we've got other land that a 40 third 40,000 square foot building will fit on.

Um let's look for another site, but I'm all for sticking with the creamers on this.

I wanted to just make a quick comment that site selectors usually come and they don't tell anybody.

Um no, I just wanted to tell you, just so you knew that they came twice for a week, and I didn't know it.

I didn't even know they were in town.

So they they did a lot of uh preparation and looking for the right parcel where this business could go.

So I just wanted to let you know that.

Councilman Wanless on the north side of Hardy Way right there.

I we approved the creamers, five acres to put in a sports pub, barn grill, and some other retail areas have been there.

To my knowledge, they've never started that, and that's been close to two years ago.

And I understand they want this other parcel too, but we've seen nothing that makes me think.

How long would we be waiting?

We've also heard people stand up and talk about small retail areas, strip malls, and all of DM dealings we have all throughout the city.

They have a point.

If we have a chance to get in a big retail, I can think of several things it could be.

If it's anything I'm thinking about, that probably have other stores attached to them, restaurants and things like that.

Would get the best of both worlds because you'd have the creamer project to the north with those five acres that would have that small feel, and you'd have the the larger business with its attached stores and things too.

And I think it would benefit the city greatly.

It's close to Sun City.

They don't have a lot of shopping close, they've got to go to Walmart or Claire to Smith's.

So I think, and it may not be a grocery store.

I'm not, but they have to go a long ways to get to anything.

I think this would be beneficial for that community and beneficial for the city.

I'm all for it.

I think we should table 7.10 and move forward with this and move forward with Kramer on the north side, and hopefully both projects get going soon.

Councilwoman Gallow.

I'm in I'm in agreement with Councilman Umless.

I um I hear from the the people in the neighborhoods in the area there, and their concern has been that the property's been there for a couple years and nothing has been done.

A rock hasn't been moved.

Um, so uh my concern is why is nothing happening on that piece of property and what's gonna happen with the new piece of property when we have um I think we really have to take a look and see this this new entity that is looking to put something in our city, um, and they're ready to go.

So I um I agree that we need to we need to take a look at both both both parties, but it sure seems like the the second party coming in is ready to to move as opposed to nothing happening in two years.

That's my comment.

Councilman Innis.

So Martin, really quick on this.

So the Kramers have purchased the five acres.

Correct.

They gave it, they came in and gave us a presentation on the 10 acres.

Correct.

Has anything gone beyond that?

We have negotiated the contract back and forth, and that's what's on the agenda is the contract.

Okay, thank you.

Yeah, and during those negotiations discussions, that's when this other group came.

And so we immediately disclosed that to the creamers so they knew, you know, because you're gonna be frustrated, right?

That you're working on something and there's new things coming along, but that's why we need the direction from the council on which way to go.

Any other questions from council?

Okay, seeing that I'm gonna go ahead and open up for public comment.

Jeff Reynolds, one if you approve the sale to this mystery person, um could they tell how quick it would be started, this building, or is it gonna sit for three or four years?

That that shouldn't be under uh non disclosure.

And the the proposed MOU could that's attached, could give you some insight into that where they have some timing built in on when it would be built and when they would need to start and how long it would take.

So there is some of that information already in the record, and I think it was 2028 that they would need to finalize.

So there, and then that's why I want an opportunity to get direction and then present uh a newer different type of agreement or similar, but just what the city typically uses as far as our incentives and the other normal things that we offer.

Maybe they're getting their trader Joe's after all.

Thanks, Jeff.

Mayor Council, thank you.

Mindy Creamer.

Um, and I would be the next agenda item.

So um uh quite a few things were were mentioned there.

Um first of all, there was a couple comments that we haven't developed anything.

So my memory says we closed the property April 2024.

So I believe it's been 18 months that we've owned the property.

I think the city, Travis, and others can and um can attest to the fact that we have been working from day one with our civil and um architect and have submitted regularly.

Uh based on my understanding, we are shovel ready.

We are permit ready.

I think maybe there's something with um the so yeah, the plans still need to get signed off.

Um they're not approved as of yet, but they're close.

I think you've they're ready to be signed off.

The bonds need to be paid and things like that, and I think the water district fees have to be paid, so yeah.

Yeah, that's so we have been actually working quite diligently.

Um I I've learned a lot through this process.

I don't have a background in commercial real estate development, so I didn't realize it would take 18 months, but it has.

It's been a constant effort.

There's been no um no down periods for that.

Um I the way I understand it that the MOU that I read was yeah, there was several years to um commit to development.

So I don't I don't think there's any difference between um our offer and that offer.

We do intend as we presented, um, the city asked us to present in March, April of this year regarding the 9.3 acres, and we do intend to and hope for a uh retail grocery store.

That was our presentation, and we do intend to market and go after a grocery store because we that was our intention the whole time is to build out what we felt.

We were local, we wanted to build out what we felt that side of town needed, and we were excited about it.

Um and I don't know uh you were talking about tabling the next one, so I I guess also um we um trying to think about we have um as we've met with many of you and talked to you before, we are a family uh investment group.

We're you know, family funded, we're cash funded to do the the first property and the second, and um we feel that uh and our majority uh investors feel that this second property needs to be considered as part of the deal to financially justify the investment.

So it is important to us, and um yeah, that's that's what I wanted to share.

If you have any questions, let me know.

Okay, thank you, Mindy.

Council, oh just vote again.

Um you don't know, you don't know, you don't know the Kramers were given that piece of property, sold that piece of property with no conditions, and that's what the city council passed.

Um I just would like to see that not happen again.

I know they've been working on it.

I've been following that soil samples and all that other stuff has been done.

Um it's a um it's a tough one.

I think you guys got a hard decision right here right now.

So, but just remember that their first piece of property, no conditions.

I don't think we need to make that mistake again, uh, whoever we sell the property to, um, make sure we throw some conditions on it.

Thanks.

Thank you, Ron.

Rick McIntyre.

Um, first of all, the the first parcel that they bought, they paid full price for.

They did I I don't am I right?

Thank you.

Um I got a little different perspective on this, but bear with me.

Uh without knowing who this anchor tenant is, uh, it's just a hard to a very difficult conversation to even have.

How do you I mean uh I I have a real problem with that.

A 40,000 square foot building, uh there's that there's very few uh retail operations that that sit in that size of thing.

Most of them, if not practically all of them, are grocery stores.

Well, we'd need a grocery store.

And I and by the way, I would like to pay a little uh honor to all of the staff that are aware of who this is who have signed the NDA NDA and are committed to that.

They have not they have honored that completely.

I would think lesser of them if any of you reveal that to me or anybody.

So thank you for being honorable people.

I did try.

I tried.

And well, and I and I respect you very much because you did that.

I would think less of you if you had told me who that was.

So thank you for being honorable people.

Now, having said that, without knowing who it is, this is this is really hard.

And I and I don't know what I don't know which side to land on.

So given that um they're competing interests.

You have a you have a some people here that are local residents of a cash deal.

They've been working on this for a lot of time, months.

They put money into it, um, and they're at a point to sign a deal with you to move forward.

That's where we're at with the creamers.

And then somebody pops up and says, hey, we got a we got a cool deal for you.

And I think that uh if the choice that you have to make is a difficult one, but I think if it's a slam dunk, uh I I've done enough research on my own without any help from any of the staff because they won't tell me anything.

Um, but let's assume for a moment this was a Harman's grocery store that was going to go in there.

Um it would be that that really make it tough, because that's something we could really use there.

Um if it's a slam dunk, like a Harmon's grocery store might be, uh then I can respect that.

But if it's even close to a close call whatsoever, then I think we owe a duty to honor the creamers and the work and the effort and the time and the money that they've put into this project.

I think it would be a mistake to to bail out on that.

Uh there's an old adage.

Uh I think it goes uh uh you should dance with who you brought.

Well, I think in many ways, we the city brought the creamers to this dance, and we owe them the honor of dancing with them.

Thank you.

Thanks, Rick.

Council Councilman Gallow, did you any okay?

We'll end a public comment.

Councilman Gellow?

I I just had a question.

Um so if the Kramers we do we we approve both pieces, does that change the whole contract all over?

Or what what are we at on that?

How does that work?

No, the agreement that we've been working on contemplates both.

And it and it and that they tie we tie into each other, but that that's part of what we've been discussing with the creamer.

So it's almost like this is already been in the process for two.

It's been going a while, and we're getting close to a final contract, but then we we get this new piece of information.

Okay, and so Martin can't just decide one or the other, that needs to come from the council.

So we have history with the Kramers and none with this unknown.

Right?

I mean, we have history, we know we know what the Kramer's there's more history with the Kremers for sure.

But there's the it's a recent newer potential buyer that came.

Councilman Parish.

So Mr.

Turney.

Can we say table this particular line item for up to three months to give the Kramers up to three months to get a contract signed on this piece of property?

If that doesn't come to fruition, then we can go back to this person.

Uh you you could you could table this item.

I don't know if I'd put those other conditions because it can always come back.

Um, but the status of the agreements right now, it would definitely not take three months.

It's it's very very close.

Yeah.

Okay, then so you could table this item in front of you now where we're talking or really you could just give us direction, a motion to say, okay, let's put let's put this new party on hold or not put them in hope you know it's it's one of the two.

Put put put the new party on hold or move forward with the new party.

And then the next agenda item you can address to tell us what to do with the creamer contract.

Well, on hold to me is the same as tabled, but maybe there's a different uh right.

Table this item in front of you now where we're talking or really you could just give us direction a motion to say okay let's put let's put this new party on hold or not put them in hope you know it's it's one of the two put put put the new party on hold or move forward with the new party and then the next agenda item you can address to tell us what to do with the creamer contract okay well on hold to me is the same as tabled but maybe there's a different right so and that really we're just looking for direction so okay then councilwoman filing are all the comments I think so I I actually would like to um give direction to move forward with this item um and with with the MOA and meaning to to negotiate that to put to continue to engage with the new buyer or or okay councilman parish okay um councilwoman filterman would you like to make a motion to that fact or oh or do we have any uh that was my motion was that the motion did you okay okay so we have a motion do we have a second to that motion I'll second it okay so we have a second so we'll call for the vote so should we say the motion one more time first can I ask one just one question I hate to sit on a fence it's painful and uncomfortable but in in this case I would the creamers say absolutely what's going in on that property that's south of what they already own would be a grocery store we do not have whole and you can't tell us if this other one is a grocery store so I guess this will just be an uncomfortable seat for as long as we sit up here on these two huh okay that's why you guys get paid the big bucks can't councilwoman filter would you restate your motion just for my motion was to move forward um and to navigate um directly with the the buyer's agent on the MOU okay okay so and we have a second so call for the vote so motion is to move forward and explore with this new buyer I get parish no defense um I'm gonna say I'm gonna say no I'm gonna say we want to work with the Kramers okay so uh motion fails okay so we're gonna move on to item 7.10 consideration approval of a resolution R25-045 finding the sale of approximately 9.31 acres of city owned property located at 1200 Hardy Way Clark County Assessors parcel number 002-12-0-701-004 parcel map file 116 page 76 of official records Clark County Nevada is consistent with all ordinance and resolutions adopted by the city council regarding the disposal of real property for the purpose of economic development or redevelopment in accordance with the city charter section 2.340 Martine um so you have before you the contract on this parcel uh when we originally received the offer it was encompassing both parcels both corners but in working with their attorney and our attorney we kind of started to massage it more and I think we got to a point where I think it was amiable to to both sides the the way it's presented and attached so they do have a five year period but they are and they are asking for the 90% discount okay questions from council councilwoman fielding thank you I will start that so their agreement here is 136 thousand dollars we have two appraisals one is 1.4 million one is 1.32 million dollars at 90 percent so explain to me how that matrix works if um Mindy just said they don't know what's going in there because doesn't the matrix work off of employees and how many people you're gonna employ yeah correct I can address that so if you look at the contract that's attached there's um it talks about the total purchase price is 1.36 million but then there's different discounts that are built into the contract depending on the the actions of the parties over the next few years and so what's been proposed is that there's a capital improvement in incentive amount that if they spend certain certain amounts then they get uh more significant uh discounts to the ultimate purchase price so there's a 250 thousand to five

So if you look at the contract that's attached, there's um it talks about the total purchase price is 1.36 million.

But then there's different discounts that are built into the contract depending on the actions of the parties over the next few years.

And so what's been proposed is that there's a capital improvement and incentive amount that if they spend certain certain amounts, then they get uh more significant uh discounts to the ultimate purchase price.

So there's a 250,000 to 500,000 amount.

If they spend that, then they get a 22 and a half percent discount, and then it goes up from there.

And if they spend a million or more, then they get the full uh 90% discount based on the capital expenditure.

And um that is the um when I'm looking at these agreements, the ultimate decision is what comes from you, right?

That's what the council does.

And my concern is to make sure that it complies with the statute because the statute requires if we're selling these properties for less than fair market value, that there has to be some kind of economic development component that goes into it.

And so this agreement reflects that that says, okay, here's the economic development.

You have to put so much money into the property to the land here and make capital improvements to the property so that we can ensure that there's that economic development.

And so um, but that's how it's structured.

There's been other transactions like this in the past, it's been um different types of incentives that are created, like a job creation incentive, or if there's a certain wage that's that's being paid, and uh it's all just a matter of negotiation between the parties and what what the parties can come come up with and agree to.

But on this one in negotiating back and forth with the parties, it it focused mainly on the capital improvement incentive.

And there are others that were presented, but then that's negotiated, and um and uh that's the version of the agreement that's in front of you right now.

Thank you, Adam.

Councilman Wandless.

To my knowledge, when we've given these discounts before, and it always hasn't worked this way because we didn't have it in the development agreement, but originally when people came forward to us, they knew what was going on the property or what their intents were.

And in this case, you don't I I'm I'm having a little bit of a struggle trying to figure out how we discount a property 90%.

That's one of the premier properties in this city.

And we don't know what's going there, and we can't tell them what they have to put there.

We don't even have a development agreement because we don't know what's going to be developed there.

So I'm I'm struggling with the discount at this point a lot.

And if they were willing to pay full market value, I guess then would have no idea what was going in there, but at least the city made all that money.

So I'm I'm I'm really struggling with this.

I guess I'm still on the fence.

And to some more background and uh Mindy can comment as well.

Like um, like during the negotiating and working on these things, there was also like a uh like a job creation incentive that has been proposed in prior agreements, and you know, that requires that within so many years we'd have so many new businesses or so many new jobs that were created.

And the the in this transaction, it's a little bit different where we've got a like a landlord essentially that's gonna be leasing out to others, so they don't know exactly what the tenants might be or who the eventual build-out might be.

And so, as part of that, they they did not want to agree to those type of incentives like a job creation or a particular wage because it'd be hard to guarantee that.

And again, it's a matter of negotiation between the parties, what the council agrees to, like Paul said, you know.

Um, but that's the version the the version in front of you now is just tied to capital improvements.

So if they spent a million or more, they'd get the full 90.

It's if it's less than that, it would be pared down and they'd have to provide more in the purchase price paid to the city.

So Paul, I was just comment a little bit.

So the design that we've submitted that is you know, and near approval on the other lot is 32,000 square feet of retail.

Um it is it was not designed to accommodate a shopping uh grocery store.

Um, so it's restaurants, um, and and at this point it's all needs to be filled.

It's um we have letters of intent from several uh interested parties, but you know, those letters of intent are about half full.

So it's there's a a road to travel to fill a shopping center of that nature.

Um our intention has always been um and desire has always been to um have a shopping center, have a grocery store, excuse me, on the second lot.

That's what we presented back in April, and our intention is to market as soon as we own the property, is to really go out and we have some experience on our team on my family investment team in doing that, and that is our intention is to go um find a grocery store.

We've we've started, we've had conversations, but we don't own the property, and we don't have the you know, can't finish the conversation.

Councilman Ennis.

So really quick capital improvement, they have to put in a they have to it has to be a million or more for the 90% discount.

If they don't meet that million or more, we already have this contract in place, they don't meet that million or more.

How do we come back and collect on that money if they didn't meet that capital improvement million dollars or more?

Yeah, they'd be required to pay that to the city, and there'd be a deed of trust recorded on the property to secure that obligation.

Yeah, so what we negotiated was a tiered was a tiered um investment level, and you pay the difference if you don't meet that.

And we just couldn't get, you know, we're we're a landlord, like you said.

We don't have we can't commit to employees, um even with filling 32,000 square feet on the other lot.

Not not that it matters because we don't have incentives on that.

We didn't ask for incentives on that one, but you see what I'm saying?

We didn't know how to do employees.

Like I'm I'm sharing that same fence post as Paul is.

Thank you for letting me share that with you.

Um I'm on that fence also.

That 90 that 90% discount just I'm having a hard time with that.

It hurts, especially with that piece of property there.

And uh you know, I yeah, we tried to come up with some suggestions.

I think we met with a couple of you individually saying, you know, what would be because when when we came to Martin and said we don't have employees, so how what would incent the city, what would you know get get your attention in that?

And our first um suggested offer was that we would bring three net new businesses, we would commit to three net new businesses, but eventually that got negotiated out.

I'm not even sure I don't remember why.

Maybe I'm not I don't remember why.

We're there was just a lot of back and forth of what would be beneficial to the city, and so in the end, because we oh I know it was because we were talking across the two lots.

So then when we went back to the single um agreement on the 9.3 acres, we just um defaulted back to the capital investment.

Councilman Parish.

So when we end up given a 90% discount, and the buildings are built and employees are hired, it's very similar to the can factory that the council before us approved for one dollar.

That was before us.

I know before everybody.

It was it was built for one dollar.

We sold that land for one dollar.

Um the taxes and the payroll and everything have more than made up for the price of that piece of property.

That's basically what she's proposing here.

Is if she can get 36,000 square feet on there and get buildings up and get people in there and payroll and et cetera, et cetera.

The city's gonna get that 90% back within five to ten years.

Yeah.

Am I correct?

Yeah, that's a great point.

Yes.

Councilman Annis, did you have another question?

Okay.

Me too.

Any other uh questions for Miss Creamer?

Okay, I think you're good, Mindy.

Adam, I have a question.

Um say they buy the property for the 90% discount and don't do anything in the five years.

Can they just pay the difference and keep it?

Or no, there's provisions in the contract that they would be required to deed the property back to us.

So we we can this is this is under the statute that requires economic development.

So if no economic development's been done, then the city needs to get the property back.

So what is the level?

I mean, if they put $10 into it.

No, is that the bottom threshold is that 22 and a half percent discount for 250 to 500,000.

And the discount would only be 300 six thousand, so they'd have to pay, you know, they'd have to bring up the purchase price, something significant to make up the difference.

Councilwoman Geller.

So just real quickly, the previous um party that was interested was also looking for 90% discount as well, correct?

So it's six or one half a dozen.

Same thing.

Just like you said double.

And it and it and it's just a it's a matter of negotiation between the parties and what the council wants to determine, like you selling a selling property for a dollar.

If they felt that it was, you know, bringing enough economic development and benefit to the city.

The statutes allow for that.

Okay, with that, I'm gonna open the public comment.

Not make a habit of this, I promise.

Yeah, in from my perspective, you're not really giving you're not giving, they have to earn it.

They you're not giving them 90% discount here.

They have to earn that 90% discount, and they earn it through the provisions that are built into the contract that you have in front of you.

Um, you know, it's a one million dollar thing to get 90%, right?

To investment.

I I would submit to you, they're gonna spend six, seven, eight, nine million dollars just on the first parcel, much less.

Okay, is this will be a slam dunk.

You're gonna, you know, if they meet all those requirements, they have earned that 90 percent.

Um for what it's worth.

Well, if you can use Google, okay, and he you can root around a little bit and figure a few things out.

The developer, is he still on the line with you?

Is that Hawkins Group?

From the other guy.

The Hawkins group.

Are they still here?

No, yes, I'm here.

I did you build the Harmons in Draper.

Yes.

Thank you.

This it's it's sort of thank you for telling me that.

That doesn't mean anything, but uh, you know, this development company has a pretty clear close partnership in building Harman's grocery stores.

Okay, it's pretty, I think that's what was being proposed there.

And that would be pretty cool.

Now, what would be really cool is to find another place on Falcon Ridge Parkway that the city owns, and let's get that Harman's on that property.

There, there's some awesome parcels that are right there, very available, that have damn near as good uh value as that corner does.

And I hope uh the people from Hawkins will hear me and and please come to Mesquite.

Thank you.

Thanks, Rick.

Quick, Dominic Oliveto.

First of all, Harman's isn't coming to Nevada.

I know this because I have a personal relationship with the brothers, but anyway, I'll shut that up.

Number two is you just shut down the proposal on the other piece.

You gotta say yes on this.

You can't turn down both offers.

I mean, I'm not real smart, but if you got two birds here and you want to make some money and you throw this one away, you take this one.

So give her her property.

Thank you.

Thanks, Dominic.

This this is this is the developer again, and I was able to text with I I I delivered the bad news to our user, and they they did say I was at liberty to disclose that it would be a grocery.

But I think that motion's already moved on.

Okay, thank you, Jake.

Cliff Romberg, I'm uh a resident.

Um, I don't have any of the information you have as far as any of the the parameters of the group that was just tabled, but different.

I think you can table two of them.

I don't think you have to do one right and uh uh immediately.

Um so I think you could table both of these options and do further discussions or negotiation on both parties, and maybe you don't have to give a 90% discount on either one of them if you have two interested parties.

That's all I'll say.

Thanks, Cliff.

Nick Elephant Sati Mosquite, uh Mayor, City Council.

You know, the city is has a great advantage here, and what the advantage is is you still have to issue operating licenses for each one of those businesses.

So you do have control of what's coming in, you're gonna know what's coming in.

You're gonna know ahead of time before they can even develop anything interior to the building, because they're gonna have to go through planning, make sure they're up to code, all that, and then again apply for a license for occupancy to be able to do the business.

So I don't think that's the issue.

I think right now, my opinion is you basically got a building that's going in, it's gonna have a lot of tenants, and I think it's good for the city.

It offers a lot of opportunity for small businesses to come in.

This is what's going on in Washington right now.

They've got all kinds of businesses that are popping up, and they're all coming in from all over.

These folks, all they gotta do is a little adventure, take a ride down to Phoenix, get a few people to come up.

Next thing you know, we got action.

Things are gonna happen.

Mesquite's gonna grow, people are gonna be happy.

It may not be Trader Joe's, but it may be trader and thank you.

Thanks, Nick.

Just tell us the name.

I'm with Parpo Construction.

We actually just put it put together put the rest of the uh idea that uh this first parcel is not gonna go go.

We have a contract with the creamers to build that first project across on the north side, so it is gonna go as long as this parcel goes through, and uh I think it's gonna be a good job for everybody in town.

Uh I know the creamers and their family are looking forward to having that other piece and get it developed as well.

So thank you.

Thanks, Wade.

Okay, seeing no one else come forward.

I'm gonna turn it back over to council.

Uh councilwoman Fielding.

So turned to so again, my concern is that a few people have mentioned that that other property has sat there.