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Mesquite City Council Regular Meeting - November 18, 2025

City Council & CommitteesTuesday, November 18, 2025
BodyMesquite, Nevada
SessionCity Council & Committees
DateTuesday, November 18, 2025
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0:01

Good evening, everyone.

0:05

And welcome to the Tuesday, November 18th, uh 2025, regular city council meeting minute.

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Regular City Council meeting.

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We're going to start with an invocation by Pastor Craig Jansen of the River Valley Bible Church.

0:25

Thank you.

0:26

Let's pray.

0:27

Father in heaven, I am very grateful for uh the city of Musquite.

0:33

And while I understand that no city goes without its unity, Lord, I'm grateful for the peacefulness of this place that we live.

0:43

I'm grateful for those who keep our city clean and safe for a mayor and council that sees fit to invoke your name, your wisdom, your goodness for the city.

0:57

And I ask for that wisdom tonight.

1:00

That uh any decisions that would need to be made would be made in accord with uh your desires, that our city would desire to be to be and abide uh by you and and bring you honor, and we thank you for being a good and gracious God, and it is in Jesus' name I pray, amen.

1:20

Amen.

1:22

Thank you, Pastor.

1:23

And can we all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance?

1:28

Pledge.

1:34

And to the Republic for which it stands.

1:37

One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all right.

1:47

We have a few ceremonial matters matters to get out of the way.

1:51

Um first of all, uh Chief Andrus, could you please come forward?

1:58

Good evening, Mayor Whipple, members of the city council, members of the public.

2:01

Really quick, I want to just take a few minutes and highlight our EMT basic course students that uh the City of Musquite, Musquete Fire Rescue, and uh College of Southern Nevada have been have created a partnership on.

2:15

We want to thank CSN for their contributions and all they've done for this course.

2:20

Darlene Montague, who uh retired on Friday, uh was a big part of this.

2:26

Chantel McAllister uh is is picking up where she's left off and helping us move forward.

2:32

So we want to thank Chantelles who's sitting in the back as well.

2:36

Really quick, I would just ask that we uh want again recognize these EMT students as I read their name.

2:41

I'd ask that they stand up and face the crowd, please.

2:44

Go ahead.

2:46

So as they prepare, uh this is a nine college credit course.

2:51

They started in August, August 28th.

2:54

They complete this course on December 11th.

2:57

They've been at station three every Tuesday and Thursday night from 5 to 10 p.m.

3:04

Uh to complete this course.

3:05

And so uh they'll complete this course on December 11th, a few days before our next city council meeting.

3:12

So, really quick, just wanted to recognize them for their outstanding effort and achievement.

3:17

We've got 12 with us uh and eighteen started the course, and so uh not everyone has finished it, but we're proud of these individuals who have completed it.

3:27

Really quick, Kean Abbott, uh Dominic Costa, Maggie Doyle, Fabian Escobito, uh Uriel Gonzalez, Wyatt Hafen, Marco Juezo, Kay Litzenberger, Keely Moore, Emmanuel Plancarte, Daniel Ramirez, and Misael Rodriguez.

3:46

We just want to again uh recognize them for the outstanding work as they uh uh prepare to take this EMT, go into the military law enforcement.

3:56

We hope they all become firefighters, but that may not uh occur.

4:00

Uh there's a lot of ways and avenues that they can use this education uh moving forward, and we're proud to offer this with CSN here in Mesquite.

4:10

So thank you.

4:22

Uh Mayor, I would make a huge mistake if I didn't think our instructors, Huck Ton, Eric Brinkerhoff, and Kennedy Alexander down at the end.

4:31

This would not be possible without you.

4:36

Thank you, Chief.

4:38

They gotta go to class.

4:41

Get out of here, you guys.

4:44

Um, Judy Cole, could you please come forward?

4:48

Cole White.

4:50

Sorry, Cole White.

4:52

Judy.

5:14

Go ahead.

5:15

Yep, you go.

5:16

Okay.

5:18

Okay, I'm Judy Cole White, live in Mesquite, and this is Karen Meniscus.

5:24

Miss Gibbons.

5:25

Miss Gibbons.

5:26

From we're from MPACT.

5:28

And I am here basically to talk about First Friday.

5:34

And I would like to first of all thank an awfully lot of people who have helped us get to this point in time.

5:41

We've had it October and November.

5:44

And as you know, my husband passed away, and I wasn't able to go to November, but I had a wonderful support group that just picked up the pieces and ran with it.

5:55

And I appreciate that.

5:57

And the first one was Steve Dudrow from MPAC, Martine Green, and the City.

6:03

They have been so supportive.

6:05

I really appreciate that.

6:07

Randy Lobb and Haido from the Rec Center have been wonderful.

6:13

Mitzi Bender, Richard Cook from the Theater, Chris Pacour and Dottie Golden from MPAC.

6:21

And no, they're from the Fine Arts Gallery, sorry.

6:24

And Jean Watkins from the Women's History Center, Mary Phelan from the museum, the volunteers, Susie White and Bethany from the theater, Cynthia Delaney from MPACT, and the maintenance for their help with all putting my signs together when I wasn't even there, and they had just kind of a funny little sketch to go by.

6:45

So I do I do appreciate all of that help.

6:54

And that's again held at the Fine Arts Gallery and at the Jimmy Hughes Center.

6:59

And we're trying to get that so that it's more unified and not two separate events.

7:06

And it's coming.

7:08

Hopefully someday we'll have vendors all the way down Yucca Street.

7:11

But we're going to start off uh the December um uh 5th event with the high school drummers, and they're gonna go from the fine arts gallery down to the Jimmy Hughes Center and then come back about an hour later to start off the event.

7:30

And we're gonna have, and I know it's been a big issue was the food was a big issue, but the fine arts gallery is going to put together a soup kitchen so you can actually go and have soup, and then they we also have the taco guy at the Jimmy Hughes Center, and hopefully, hopefully, the um corndog gal.

7:54

So we'll see.

7:56

But anyway, we're getting it all together, and it's taken a while, but we appreciate all the help we've had so far from everybody, and hope to see everybody there on December the fifth.

8:09

I'd like to thank one other group because it seems like every time we go there, you know, it's that time of year when it gets dark early, and our citizens patrol um for the city of Mesquite is there.

8:21

They block they don't block the streets, but they're there in the streets, they're protecting everybody and making sure everybody's safe.

8:27

So they've done a great job on that.

8:30

Yeah.

8:30

Um, the other thing, and back um did have happen this um past month was that Tony Manfreddy from the Nevada Arts Council wanted to come to Musquite to meet all of us here.

8:41

Um, and I thank Martine and Nancy Hewitt for helping me put that together at the art gallery.

8:46

Um did an awesome job.

8:48

We didn't have very many people turn out, but the information he got from the people that were there, the information we got from him, they definitely want to come to Mesquite and do another art project that will um be part of that America 250 initiative, and so we're in process right now of figuring out what to do and where to put it.

9:08

Um other than that, there's a couple other things we have in the works, so when those get a little further along, we'll let you know.

9:15

Thank you.

9:16

Thank you.

9:17

Thank you, Judy.

9:18

Thank you, Karen.

9:22

And now I'm gonna turn over the time to Councilwoman Building.

9:26

Thank you, Mayor.

9:27

So in the last few months, um, the Hughes Hawks flag football took state championship.

9:35

So that's something to be super proud of.

9:38

And I just can't be happier that they keep putting mesquite on the map again.

9:43

So I would like to um have Coach Bowler and Coach Nelson come up and tell us a little bit about your championship win and bring the girls up and show us your trophy.

10:30

You're good.

10:32

Hey, um I first want to thank their parents for raising such good daughters.

10:37

And I mean that.

10:38

These ladies are amazing.

10:40

Sorry, I'm talking the wrong way.

10:51

Coach Nelson and I have been coaching most of it.

10:54

I got a call from Mike Kazakh who's over at Laugh Athletics, and he asked me, um, do you have anyone that could coach the junior high girls that you could think of?

11:03

And I said, I will.

11:04

He goes, No, I'm not, I'm I'm serious.

11:06

You got someone?

11:07

I said, No, I I want to do it.

11:09

Um, and so we've been, this is our fifth season.

11:11

We started in division two, which is the lower division.

11:15

Uh we won the championship that year, and the league title went undefeated.

11:19

The next year we lost in the semis and they bumped us up to D1.

11:23

And I I don't think you under, I don't even think the girls understand.

11:27

I mean, we're we're kind of like David and Goliath.

11:29

We're playing some of these schools that play year-round club ball, which we don't.

11:33

Uh, and they're very, very athletic.

11:36

Uh, these ladies work hard, um, and they kill it.

11:40

I mean, one of the teams we played was a club team that all 11 of the girls played on a club team, and they do it year-round.

11:46

So to beat that kind of caliber for the time we have to put in to me is amazing.

11:51

Um, but we've won three Division One League titles, and then this year we won the we won the championship.

11:57

So I couldn't be prouder of these girls.

12:00

Um, Coach, you want to say something?

12:01

Are you it's been an it's been an honor coaching with him.

12:07

We both coached the boys and the girls.

12:08

I did the defense this year, he did the offense.

12:11

I hate to say it, the defense did a little better at times in the offense.

12:16

But um, I mean, in the finals, we beat Rogic, we beat uh, is it face?

12:21

Am I saying it right?

12:23

And I shouldn't say this.

12:24

Is this on the record or off?

12:26

It's all off the record, John.

12:28

Okay, off the record.

12:29

So we're in the middle of this heated game, the championship game, and their coaches yelling at our girls, our girls, and Coach Nelson being the bear starts yelling at coach saying, You don't yell at our girls.

12:41

And I just looked at him and he says to me, and you you guys will be proud of me because I'm very hot-tempered.

12:46

He goes, Coach, your girls are dirty, and you're an MFer.

12:50

And I didn't say anything back.

12:53

I was amazed.

12:54

I just I just wanted to point and say scoreboard, but I did.

12:58

I was I was very classy.

13:00

But I'm proud of these girls.

13:02

Thank you for having us.

13:03

Um more thing.

13:05

One of the ladies that was set here was in that program played for us, one of the best players I've ever had.

13:11

So as these girls learn these skills on the field, they're gonna be in the city working for us, and you couldn't ask for better young ladies and employees down the road.

13:20

So thank you for inviting us.

13:39

Hey, Crunch.

13:41

Well, Joey, you're teaching them young, so that's good.

13:44

Hey, one good thing.

13:45

Sorry, Karen.

13:46

I was gonna say they don't stink like after a game on the bus.

13:48

This is so much nicer.

13:50

That's good because all of these girls are going to be winning championships at the high school in the next few years.

14:11

You got it.

14:18

Thank you, Robert and Joey, and thank you, girls.

14:21

Um, with that, we are gonna move on to our opening public comment.

14:26

Um, you have three minutes.

14:28

This is for items that are not agendized.

14:30

And uh go ahead.

14:33

Okay.

14:34

We'll just give them a minute to clear out, Debbie.

14:36

And uh I got a little less crowded in here.

14:52

Oh, Debbie, can you give me one minute?

14:55

I forgot something.

14:57

Travis.

14:58

Thank you.

15:00

I just had a really quick announcement.

15:02

Um today at four o'clock, the traffic signal cabinet at Old Mill and Sand Hill was hit.

15:09

We had a vehicular accident, took out the power, took out the whole cabinet.

15:14

Um, luckily, there's uh the person was okay in the accident.

15:18

However, our traffic signals did not make it.

15:21

So that uh um that signal is going to be in a four-way stop function with temporary stop signs in the medians for the time being.

15:33

We're hoping to have that, it could be one to two days that this is in this situation.

15:38

We do have an extra cabinet, but we have to undo the old one, check all the wiring, uh, put the new one, reprogram it.

15:47

So we're asking for a lot of patience, and if you can, that is a very busy intersection.

15:54

Um, if there's any way that you can go through town another way, that would probably be best these next couple days.

16:01

Um, but please be patient, and we are working as quick as we can to get that remedy.

16:06

Thank you.

16:07

Thank you, Travis.

16:08

I apologize, Debbie.

16:09

Go ahead.

16:10

Good evening, Mayor Whipple, members of City Council.

16:13

I'll pull your mic down there a little bit.

16:16

Good evening, Mayor Whipple, members of City Council and the residents of Mesquite.

16:22

My name is Debbie Benham, and I am here to talk about the parade of lights.

16:26

The parade is on Thursday, December the 4th at 5 30 p.m.

16:30

The parade begins at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on Arrowhead Lane and proceeds down Mesquite Boulevard.

16:38

The parade ends at City Hall.

16:40

Cookies and hot chocolate will be served compliments of the Eureka Casino.

16:45

Santa and Mrs.

16:46

Claus will be available for pictures after the parade.

16:50

Please bring your own camera.

16:52

This is the 11th annual parade of lights.

16:55

The theme this year is Christmas in the desert.

16:58

As of today, I have 31 confirmed entries.

17:05

Applications are available in the lobby at City Hall, or you can contact me at 702 324-2038, or email me at Deborah underscore Benham at Yahoo.com.

17:19

The entry fee to be in the parade is a minimum of 25 pounds of non-perishable food.

17:26

The deadline is Monday, November the 24th.

17:29

As of today, I have 16,44.8 pounds of non-perishable food items and personal care items that have been donated.

17:41

I'm asking.

19:12

Thank you, Debbie.

19:13

And thank you for everything you do.

19:15

Um Nancy is all that information on the city's website.

19:19

So all that information, phone number and everything is also available on the city website.

19:24

All right, David Baldwood.

19:25

Uh I want to continue my public comments from last meeting about our great police department.

19:32

Uh they've proven again in the last since the last meeting of their great uh capabilities of rounding up some uh pretty bad situation down on Riverside Road.

19:43

And I just want to point out, and I want to spend extend that that uh this is under the leadership of uh our Tracy Fales, our interim police chief.

19:54

And I think it's about time that the City of Mesquite recognize that and appoint him as permanent chief of police.

20:01

I hear, well, we want to wait for the new city manager to come.

20:04

She's not gonna know who who's who and what's what.

20:07

She give her credit, she might be the best city manager we ever had, but not the first day, not to understand what's going on.

20:15

Tracy Fales has been here for years.

20:17

He knows the police department, he knows this the community, he's part of the community, and we and we've already shown by his excellent uh leadership what the police department can do.

20:28

We need to make that decision now.

20:30

And I you know, I've heard with all due respect that we're waiting for the new city manager.

20:36

There's no reason to do that.

20:37

She some somebody said, Well, you have to have her appointed.

20:40

It's wrong.

20:41

You were able to name last meeting, you were able to name uh open a new department, a new position, deputy city the uh uh attorney uh city attorney, appoint somebody, and during this period of time, uh the rec department became open, and you were able to appoint uh Randy Lobb as the director of the rec department.

21:04

I don't understand why we can't get this done for Tracy.

21:09

Period.

21:10

So at this point, he's the interim chief, and I think every police officer, every sworn officer, every support person in the police department is looking at this saying, we're also interim because we don't know what's gonna happen.

21:26

They're sitting there in limbo.

21:28

We can't have this continue on and maintain the morale of this police department, and they are good.

21:34

I have never had a problem with them.

21:36

They've responded, and I just can't tell you how much respect I have for them.

21:40

And I've known Tracy for a long time, so a lot of people know him better than I have, but I've I I've worked with them, known him, and you and it's just time that we move on.

21:50

Take take, and I know we're gonna hear a lot of naysayers, I wasn't gonna get negative, about doing a search.

21:56

There's no need for a search.

21:58

Tracy can do this job, he's proven it.

22:01

He's been in the city, he's dedicated himself to this to this city, to this community, and it's about time we recognize that and make him chief of police.

22:09

Thank you.

22:10

Thank you, Dave.

22:16

Dominic Olivetto and I'm representing uh Vietnam Veterans of America, and I apologize for not getting to the tech meeting to get on the deal for a slight presentation.

22:26

But I have made arrangements, so if Councilman Gallo would stand up, you don't have to move if you just stand up.

22:32

I have a little something from you from the mesquite veterans.

22:37

It's not from Walmart, by the way.

22:41

We have this small plaque.

22:42

It doesn't, it's not big and it's not a lot, but it basically says every time there's a veteran's event, and I turn around, Patty's there, and we do appreciate it.

22:53

Uh the the officer over there has been real nice.

22:56

He he I had to give him 50 bucks to bring this up there.

22:59

So my way.

23:02

Now, this is worth more than the trophy.

23:05

We're beekeepers here in town.

23:06

This is our first batch of mesquite honey.

23:09

We don't sell it, we only give it to people we love.

23:12

Patty, thank you.

23:13

We appreciate it.

23:31

Good evening.

23:33

My name is Clinton Brooks, and I've been in Mesquite for about eight and a half years.

23:39

I'm here because I'm having a little problem with the Hafen tennis courts.

23:47

Um we, after about eight or ten years of pleading, uh, we finally got the courts resurfaced, but we don't have any wind screens.

23:59

They were taken down, and I can't seem to get um, I can't seem to get an appointment or any sort of acknowledgement.

24:11

Let me back up, because today I got an email uh after a month of trying to talk to someone at the rec department about the Haveham Park courts.

24:25

So I'm just here to ask for help and to make it known that we need some sort of attention.

24:32

Thank you.

24:35

Thank you, Clinton.

24:45

Hello, my name is uh Francisco Lavanos.

24:48

Um good evening, Mayor, good evening, uh City Councilman.

24:52

Um I'm coming to you today because I'm seeking guidance in a certain manner.

25:00

I work, I have many jobs here in the city, but one of them is I'm a teacher at the Mesquite Christian Academy.

25:04

I'm pretty sure it's right in front of uh uh Walmart on uh 315 uh Kellis Drive, and we're kind of right next to the Falcon Ridge golf course.

25:15

And the reason I'm seeking your guidance is because on October 9th, uh while I was teaching, I had my car parked, and uh I just was teaching physics at the time when one of the students came and told me that my car had been hit by one of the golf balls, and it hit the front windshield, it shattered it.

25:35

Um it was funny because I was teaching physics and we were teaching uh laws of of Newton, right?

25:40

And I actually threw in there um not just Newton, but also everybody knows uh whatever can happen will happen.

25:47

Right.

25:48

So that happened.

25:49

Um but I did reach out to the golf center.

25:51

I went in person, and they kind of gave me the run around, and the first answer they gave me was your insurance should pay for it.

25:57

Um to which I called my insurance and they said obviously no, that's not how it works.

26:02

Um I asked them to speak to the manager there, I believe his name was Robert.

26:06

I seeked his guidance as well, very calm the way I'm speaking to you right now.

26:09

I know things happen, uh, but I seeked his help.

26:12

Um he said that it normally it is the golfer's responsibility to cover any damages that their golf balls do.

26:18

And so it's trouble, it's troubling because he obviously couldn't pinpoint it at the time.

26:23

So the good thing was uh one of our neighbors there by the Christian Mesquite Academy had cameras at the time, could not see the person but can name the exact time in which the golf ball hit.

26:33

So I gave it to the manager asking, hey, can you triangulate?

26:36

I know what hole it came from, I know exactly when it hit.

26:40

Could you find out who was there and talked to them for me?

26:43

Um to this day, I have not heard back from him.

26:46

Um I gave him my phone number, he knows where I work.

26:49

I still have not had heard back from him.

26:51

Twenty days later, while my wife was driving, uh dropping off our kids because our kids go there.

26:56

Uh our car was hit.

26:58

The second car was hit.

26:59

And thank the good Lord it was hit on the body, though it did dent it, but I'd rather have a dented, you know, uh body than uh another broken windshield.

27:07

And so once again I reached out, I actually spoke to him.

27:10

I called the front line.

27:12

He happened to answer.

27:13

I know recognized his voice.

27:14

I don't think he recognized mine.

27:16

I told him again, I gave him all my information.

27:18

Still, again, to this day, I have not heard it.

27:20

So my concern is uh of three.

27:23

One, not asking for much just guidance on a handle the the matter with mine with my vehicles.

27:28

Two, there are students there that play outside.

27:31

And my concern is if the um golf course is protecting the golfers and themselves by not having any liability.

27:40

What happens if one of our youth is injured, plus the city, since I know we live in a golfing city.

27:45

So thank you for your help.

27:47

Thank you, Francisco.

28:04

Mayor, Council, Nick Alfonsetti, Mesquite.

28:08

Uh over the weekend, uh was uh Satur Friday, excuse me, Friday.

28:15

Uh we talked about this before about having somebody look into safety as far as uh mopeds and somebody's electric bikes and this kind of thing.

28:27

Had a couple of kids that were, I would say probably 10, 12 years old, a boy and a girl, all kinds of color on them on many cycles, like dirt bikes, small ones, real small ones.

28:43

And they were steaming down the street in the neighborhood of where I live on Chaparral.

28:51

Uh they were flying.

28:54

Uh, and it seems like it just happened.

28:58

They were there.

28:59

I heard them shoot over towards the airport where they went from there.

29:03

I don't know.

29:04

I didn't hear them come back, so I don't know if they were just out riding.

29:08

Somebody in uh ATV was following them, but they were way back from them because they couldn't keep up with the speed of those little things.

29:16

So that was one thing that happened.

29:19

But in uh in the course, and I know you've heard enough about my neighbor with their Airbnb.

29:26

Uh I do have something positive.

29:31

We had a team from Colorado show up, and I think they were playing softball.

29:39

I don't know where they had their uniforms on.

29:42

There were more cars than there were bedrooms.

29:47

Uh good thing was I surmised by their vocabulary that they uh weren't drinking, very well mannered, very quiet.

30:00

Didn't know they were there except for all these cars just showed up.

30:04

And uh it was a good experience.

30:07

Uh so again, there is some good things out there, and uh I do want to commend them for it.

30:13

I don't know if they'll ever return, but uh that like I said, there was probably about 15 of them there that showed up, and uh it was very uh very quiet.

30:24

So and I and I did tell Simon about it, and uh I was very surprised.

30:29

So there are good things about Airbnbs, and in this case, uh they were very well behaved.

30:36

So always commend people when they do the right thing.

30:39

Thank you.

30:40

Thank you, Nick.

30:46

Sure.

30:50

It's easy.

30:52

Good evening, Mayor Council, following up on the gentleman.

30:55

Uh on Monday, I was going down Hafen, and looked at the crosswalk, there was nobody there, went to make a right hand turn, there's this kid on the scooter right in the middle.

31:09

Didn't look, just came flying across.

31:13

We gotta do something.

31:14

We really do.

31:15

I've been watching the news.

31:17

I'm sure you all have been watching down in Vegas.

31:19

How many kids have been hit?

31:21

Now they're putting up this big sign in the middle.

31:27

No U turn state law.

31:30

We don't have them.

31:31

Why don't we have that?

31:36

We should.

31:38

What last week I saw Captain Rowley doing crossing guard duty.

31:44

A captain doing crossing guard duty.

31:47

That's because they got rid of the volunteers.

31:51

How much money are we paying an hour for a captain to cross kids across the street?

31:55

It's ridiculous.

31:57

When you had volunteers, doesn't make any sense.

32:01

I would like to see the U-turn just like down in Vegas.

32:04

We gotta protect our kids.

32:06

When the police are not there, you got one crossing guard down the other end, they're doing U-turns all the time.

32:12

Well, put a camera there.

32:14

Do something.

32:15

I don't want to see one of our kids get hit.

32:17

I don't.

32:17

And I don't think any of you up there want to see it either.

32:20

The last thing we need is for a kid to get hit.

32:22

11-year-old kid got hit down in Vegas and killed.

32:27

It's not right.

32:28

How would the parent?

32:29

How would you feel if one of your kids got hit?

32:31

It'd be devastating.

32:33

So that's all I have to say.

32:34

And thank you.

32:35

Thank you, Mike.

32:40

Good evening, Ron Shackleford.

32:42

I'm just gonna piggyback on a couple of those comments.

32:44

Um the uh I was on the city website the other day, and I saw that we're trying to hire a crossing guard for the schools.

32:53

Um we had two volunteers.

32:56

I don't understand why we're trying to hire somebody now.

32:59

Um just uh observation.

33:03

The next one is uh is the bicycle.

33:06

Clark County does have rules.

33:08

We are Clark County, so those rules are probably in place.

33:12

I heard uh Kevin was gonna be working on this.

33:14

I don't know if that was just rumors.

33:16

It's okay.

33:17

So um I'm gonna volunteer.

33:20

I've rode bicycles in Washington.

33:22

I have thousands and thousands of miles on my bicycle.

33:26

I've done the Seattle to Portland ride.

33:28

That's from Seattle to Portland, 208 miles.

33:32

I've done it six times in two days.

33:35

So um I have thousands of miles in experience.

33:38

I love to volunteer my time and my effort in helping work with these laws and maybe see if we can't make it a mandatory thing for people to take classes and maybe just get a little certificate.

33:52

I think that would be a great idea for, and once again, tonight I'm I was on my way home, and there's somebody on an e-bike, blew right through the light, and nobody, I mean, it's just it's yeah, we need classes.

34:06

He didn't have no way of looking behind him to see if anybody was behind them.

34:10

I took a right hand turn and he almost comes up on top of me and just about hits me.

34:15

So we do need laws.

34:16

Um, and I'd really like to, like I say, volunteer my time because I've got thousands of miles and thousands of tons of ideas on what we could do to help protect the citizens on these e-bikes.

34:28

Not only that, but also you know, who wants to be the driver that hits somebody and have to live with that?

34:35

We've already had two.

34:36

Those people have to live with that the rest of their lives, that they've killed somebody, somebody's dead, and we don't want that.

34:43

I don't want that as a driver.

34:45

So once again, volunteer my time, be happy to help you out on this.

34:49

Thank you.

34:50

Thank you, Ron.

34:55

Seeing no one else coming forward, I'm gonna go ahead and move on to item two, our consent agenda.

35:01

Item 2.1 consideration of approval of the Tuesday, October 21st, 2025 technical review meeting minutes.

35:08

And the November 18th, 2025 regular city council meeting agenda.

35:15

2.2 consideration of approval of a notification of budget transfers, B notification of budget amendments, C notification of bills paid, D, purchase orders.

35:26

2.3 monthly financials.

35:29

2.4 consideration of designating vehicles as city surplus items and direct public works to list items on the public surplus website.

35:39

2.5 consideration of approval of resolution number R25-048, adopting interlocal contract number 3199 between Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada and Clark County, City of Las Vegas, City of North Las Vegas, City of Henderson, City of Boulder City, and the City of Musquite for backup power and cooling system for communication hubs.

36:02

2.6 consideration of approval of resolution number R25-049.

36:08

Adopting adopting supplemental number one to interlocal contract number 3186 between the City of Musquite and the Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada for City of Mesquite Street Improvements.

36:20

Item 2.7 consideration of approval of resolution number R25-050, adopting the supplemental number five to the interlocal contract number 1350 between Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada and Clark County, City of Las Vegas, City of North Las Vegas, City of Henderson, City of Buller City, and City of Musquite for traffic signal system software.

36:43

And 2.8 consideration of approval of resolution number R25-051 adopting supplemental number one interlocal contract number 3231 between the City of Mesquite and the Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada for Mesquite Boulevard and Sand Hill Boulevard Mill and Overlay Projects.

37:01

Any questions from council on the consent agenda?

37:06

Seeing none.

37:07

Any public comment on the consent agenda.

37:11

Seeing none, I'll turn it back over to Council.

37:13

Councilwoman Fielding.

37:15

Thank you, Mayor.

37:16

I will make a motion to approve the consent agenda.

37:19

Do I have a second?

37:20

Councilwoman Gallow.

37:22

I'll second.

37:25

Call for the vote.

37:28

Galloway.

37:32

Okay, the motion passes.

37:34

Item 3.1 presentation by Hinton Burdick, PLLC, and acceptance of the City of Musquite fiscal year 2024 and 2025 annual audit financial report.

37:47

Um Mayor?

37:48

Yes.

37:49

Um Nikki Thorne, uh Director of Finance for the record, um, is previously discussed.

37:56

Um, this item is moving to the December 9th City Council agenda, and it was determined immediately following tech review.

38:03

So the agenda was uh was already scheduled to be posted.

38:07

Okay.

38:08

I would like to pull this item.

38:09

Excellent.

38:09

Now that you say that, I remember that happening.

38:12

Okay, thank you, Nikki.

38:15

Of course.

38:16

Okay, we're gonna go ahead and open up for public comment on this item if anybody wishes to.

38:21

Okay, and seeing one, we're gonna go ahead and move on.

38:24

Mayor's comments and reports.

38:26

Um, just a couple of things, and they've already been mentioned.

38:30

One, the parade of lights.

38:32

Um, I think Debbie left.

38:35

But she is doing an amazing, amazing job and has been for a while now.

38:41

And I, and I think I speak for all of the citizens of Mesquite, how much we appreciate her.

38:46

And I would just encourage all of you that are able to help with that and help her raise food, especially, you know, Christmas season and also kind of trying times for our country.

38:56

It's it's just a great thing if you're able to go ahead and help with that.

38:59

The second is the bikes.

39:02

Um a few gentlemen brought that up.

39:05

The bikes, uh, Captain Fells is working on that code along with uh Mr.

39:10

Anderson, and so that that is in the works.

39:14

Um, we're getting closer on that.

39:16

But in the meantime, when you're driving, be aware.

39:20

When you're riding your bike, be extra aware because the the accidents we've had have been the fault of the people on the bikes.

39:29

And so if you are a bike rider, please please be safe and realize that you're always gonna lose that battle between you and a car.

39:37

So take a little extra caution.

39:39

And crosswalks.

39:41

Um, I had a little minor incident in a crosswalk, and I didn't almost run somebody over, but it was closer than I would have liked.

40:00

And just be aware of people crossing the crosswalks, walking as well as on their bikes, and also if you're crossing the crosswalk, be aware of of vehicles and what they're doing, and be you know, just both sides, whether you're driving, riding, walking, just be safe out there on the streets.

40:13

And that's all I have.

40:14

Council.

40:15

We have anything from council members.

40:16

Council, we'll start a councilman wanless and we'll work down the road.

40:22

Chief Fells.

40:24

Chief Fells, this is directed at you.

40:29

I want you to know I was at the Regional Transportation Commission last Thursday.

40:35

While I was there, the e-bikes, e-scooters, e-motorcycles were brought up.

40:43

And Boulder City, the mayor, Las Vegas, the mayor, North Salt Lake or North Las Vegas.

40:51

There's one of those councilmen and a councilman from the Henderson, all are having the same problems, and they're all working on it right now.

41:00

And the way they the solutions they've come up with aren't working.

41:03

They make laws and people don't follow them.

41:07

So I would like to encourage you to reach out to all five of them.

41:14

Because they're all in the process of doing exactly what you're doing, and maybe it would make your life a little bit easier getting it done.

41:23

But to everyone here, it's not a problem in Mesquite.

41:27

And not just in Las Vegas, it's everywhere.

41:31

And as they're trying to control it, the people won't listen to them, the people won't follow the laws, and they're not places all the time where there are police present.

41:43

And they're having there's a lot more of those devices than there are officers on the streets, and they're having a heck of a time trying to get their heads wrapped around it, just like you are.

41:56

So maybe if all of you could get together, you could come up with something that just might work.

42:03

Yeah, please come.

42:06

So a lot of this is already state law.

42:09

Um, though the majority of it is already state law.

42:12

Um, the county is already also uh uh enacted a code, a state code, and there's was and I've also been working with those chiefs.

42:21

Like I go to monthly meetings with the chiefs and and things like that, and um the school district police have created some um issues because there's a lot of kids are bringing them to school, things like that.

42:33

Um you guys have to appreciate that, like I'm not gonna ask my guys to like pull over 12-year-olds and chew them out.

42:40

It's not gonna happen.

42:41

I mean, I would we don't want negative contact with children, right?

42:45

We need to do it's gonna be an education thing.

42:48

Our our police officers aren't aren't gonna like make it have we don't want negative contacts with children, right?

42:54

We're gonna need a lot of help, and most of that's gonna have to come from parents and teachers and and um you know groups that could do that.

43:01

Um, yes, there's gonna be enforcement.

43:04

Um, but we we I I've given a draft code, the city attorney to review.

43:09

Um it's a lot of it's following the state laws and you know, and and increasing some of the um some of the restrictions, um, not a lot, but a little bit.

43:19

Um there's some sidewalk issues, things like that, riding inside parks.

43:25

Um, some of these electric motorcycles really they're not bikes, they're not e-bikes, they are motorcycles, and there's a lot of awareness that means that we've created flyers that are going out to all the schools um so that um the the SROs are gonna have them passed out through the schools to their their email changed to all the parents and things like that too, so that people understand what these laws are, what the requirements are and things like that.

43:50

It is a it is a statewide, well, it's a countrywide thing now.

43:53

Um, it's a big problem with these bikes, the technology is coming up faster than we can deal with.

44:00

Chief, one one other thing, and I I appreciate everything you're doing, and and those e-motorcycles, they go really fast, they go almost as fast as your police cars.

44:10

Yeah, but teaching these young kids is awesome, and hopefully we can convince by no.

44:19

I I sit next to the mayor of Boulder City, and he said they made a law that if you're under 16, you have to be wearing a helmet, you have to be on a sidewalk, and you have to be going under 15 miles an hour.

44:31

And it hasn't done anything, even though it's a lot.

44:35

My question is, what about the last person that was killed on an e-bike was in his 60s?

44:43

All of our accidents, and we don't have any children involved in e-bike accidents that I'm aware of current.

44:48

So I think a lot of our problems are us.

44:53

Correct.

44:54

And we are old and senile.

45:00

So how do we how do we get them to understand that there are rules and things they need to follow too?

45:05

Because that's where the problem truly is right now.

45:08

I I mistakenly thought Sun City would have a club.

45:10

I went up there the other day and said, Do you guys have an e-bike club or a bike club?

45:14

And she says we have 57 clubs and not an e-bike club.

45:17

I was hoping to uh break into that, you know, group and see what I could help out there.

45:21

Um, yeah, it's an education thing.

45:24

It really is an education thing.

45:25

My guys can't be everywhere all the time.

45:27

They can't enforce everything all the time.

45:30

It really is gonna be a community-wide effort to teach each other and to help each other understand that this is important and it's a and it's a big problem.

45:38

It's a critical problem.

45:39

We have had some deaths.

45:41

Um and mesquite because they and those the bicyclists that that it could have been they could have been avoided.

45:52

Um, it's just it's it's a sad thing.

45:54

We're doing we really are working on it.

45:56

Um, I know I the scooters and and the kids, I I went and watched the uh school zones.

46:04

I I I came in early a couple of days, went and watched the school zones.

46:08

Um, and all those all the kids came in on scooters.

46:12

I didn't see any problems with the kids.

46:15

They were doing a really good job.

46:16

And then I drove down Riverside and had three uh had two different times where adults shot across the river, the all the lanes and near me the same morning.

46:25

So, yeah, there's some there's some awareness and some education that we need to address.

46:30

And I'm doing I am doing that.

46:32

I'm working on the like I said, we're working through the schools right now.

46:35

Um, we're working on some other stuff to to push it out on the internet and things like that for our for the rest of our um residents.

46:43

Mr.

46:43

Baldwin brought up the work you're doing.

46:46

I agree with him.

46:47

You're doing a great job.

46:49

You're a police officer doing a wonderful job.

46:52

Hopefully, we can get our arms around this and just make this go away or at least limit it so we don't have the fatalities and we don't have the problems we're having right now.

47:01

Thank you.

47:02

Thank you, Chief.

47:03

I want to say one thing about the crosswalks.

47:05

Um, the reason Captain Rolly was over there is because he likes kids and oh, even the crossing guards need a day off.

47:11

And rather than pull a guy off patrol to do that or whatever, he went and sacrificed his own time to do that.

47:16

Chris donates a lot of his own time, a lot.

47:19

Um, and that was something he did, and I fully support Chris being out there um doing crossing guard duty as a captain.

47:26

I fully support it.

47:27

So he did a great job.

47:29

And we're advertising so that we can get a reserve crossing guard so that people can have a day off.

47:35

Sometimes things come up, you get sick, we want somebody in the reserve.

47:38

That's what that's for.

47:39

It's not gonna cost the city another penny.

47:44

Thank you, Chief.

47:47

Councilwoman Fielding.

47:48

Thank you.

47:49

Tracy, don't go anywhere.

47:52

So let me just tell you, you made a comment that really, really surprised me.

47:57

Um, what are we gonna do?

47:58

Pull over a 12-year-old.

48:00

Well, you know what?

48:00

How are they gonna learn if they aren't reprimanded not wearing a helmet or going too fast?

48:07

Because we have rules, regulations, and so I'm not done.

48:11

So, but you know what?

48:13

My kids all learned.

48:15

They did something wrong, they were disciplined, they were grounded, there was actions that were taking.

48:23

Um so just the other day, I think it was Veterans Day.

48:27

I was going down Mesquite Boulevard towards like the post office, and there was a group of kids, five e-motorcycles cut me off going up Woodbury, totally ran in front of me.

48:40

Looking up Woodbury, they were all doing wheelies going up Woodbury fast.

48:45

I mean, you can't do a willy going 10 miles an hour.

48:48

I I I haven't never tried it, but I'm assuming you can't.

48:52

Um helmets, no nothing.

48:55

I mean, were they gonna take their e-bikes to our our park up there to do their e-bikes or e-motorcycles is what they were?

49:04

So I do have a small issue with no helmets going the speed and not pulling them over and saying, hey, this is a warning, because if they're 12, what's gonna happen when they're 15 when they're 16 when they have a car and they're driving?

49:21

I mean, the need for speed.

49:23

So I'm sorry, but I think there should be some accountability for these kids if they're doing over the speed limit and not wearing a helmet.

49:34

So there you have it.

49:37

Mayor, if I can just jump in here real quick, and I know I'm the bad guy sometimes, but you know, after Tracy responds, I just encourage the council to have no further discussion on this.

49:45

It's not an agendized item.

49:46

We don't want to run afoul of open meeting issues, so I'd encourage just no no further discussion from other members of the council, but you know, if you want to respond.

49:54

You want me to come back up at staff comment and talk about it?

50:00

But I'm just I just we don't want any additional comments from the council, not an agenda item.

50:04

I believe what you're speaking about, councilman fielding are two different things from what I'm referring to.

50:09

I don't want to make negative contacts with a young 12-year-old on a scooter going down the sidewalk without a helmet on.

50:16

Someone doing reckless driving on an e-motorcycle, they are not e-bikes.

50:22

If they don't have pedals, they are motorcycles.

50:24

They're required to have driver's licenses, registration, insurance, lighting, all the things, right?

50:30

My guys are pulling those people over.

50:32

They are dealing with those people.

50:34

And the accountability comes from the parents.

50:37

If you give your kid a 12-year-old, if you give your 12-year-old an e-motorcycle without a helmet and all those other things, you are accountable, and that is part of state law and it's part of what we do.

50:48

We don't just not do anything, but I am not gonna encourage my guys to stop a kid going to going to elementary school on an e-scooter on the sidewalk just because he's not wearing a helmet.

51:02

I'm not gonna encourage that because it creates a uh a negative contact for that child to remember most of his life because this cop came up and scared him because he wasn't wearing a helmet.

51:13

We got we've got to work for the schools, we've got to do things that are with the parents that are gonna help us encourage that.

51:20

The the things you're talking about, the extremes, of course.

51:22

I want that to handle.

51:24

I want handled immediately and you know, and right there.

51:27

Those are different writing willies on the street, um, things like that.

51:31

We address that very aggressively, and currently we always have done that.

51:35

So those are different things than what I'm just that I'm what I'm referring to.

51:39

So thank you.

51:41

Um, councilwoman Gallo.

51:46

I got about 14 things.

51:47

No, I'm only kidding.

51:48

Okay, just real quickly, just want to let everyone know.

51:51

I'm really excited.

51:52

Uh, the animal shelter had their lights, electricity turned on today.

51:55

So I want to thank Travis Anderson, Zach Robison, and Joe Messias and his team, because there's been a lot of work, and of course, the the construction company's been phenomenal over there.

52:04

Um, but the new building is so gonna be so beautiful, it's so exciting.

52:08

Again, it was award-winning.

52:10

So um I'm looking forward to letting everyone know that there will eventually be a ribbon cutting will be uh grand opening, probably, and they're way ahead of schedule.

52:18

Uh, second thing is uh septic.

52:20

I don't know that too many people here are affected, but once again, uh those of us within this valley will not be affected by all the the stuff that you're hearing about the fees and having to link up, etc.

52:32

There's no place to link up to, so you all are fine.

52:35

Um, if you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

52:38

And lastly, I'd like to thank Cisco for being brave enough to come forward and discuss um the situation because again, this is the same group that wants to put in a driving range with a low fence and your proof that that there's an issue.

52:54

Um, I know if I was if I was at the golf course, I would have probably paid for your windshield to keep you quiet, but um I want to thank you uh for coming forward, and it certainly helps.

53:04

And hopefully we can get you get you to the right help so that someone can help you with the finances on your window, your windshield.

53:11

And that's it.

53:12

Thank you.

53:12

Thank you, councilwoman.

53:13

Councilman Ennis.

53:17

I just got a couple of quick things.

53:19

First of all, I want to thank everybody's support.

53:21

Veterans Day Parade went off fantastically.

53:24

I I was really overwhelmed with with the effort and everything put forward by especially by the citizens in that and all the help that I received being my first year doing that.

53:32

I think it went pretty good.

53:34

Somebody might think differently.

53:35

Secondly, I want to piggyback on what Dominic said about back there about uh councilwoman Gallo.

53:40

Thank you for your support always for the veterans.

53:42

I appreciate it very much.

53:44

And then don't forget uh Dracula will be in town tomorrow.

53:48

The Red Cross will be at the veteran center taking blood, and there's still a few seats left open.

53:53

Thank you.

53:54

Thank you, councilman.

53:55

Councilman Parrish.

53:57

Um Randy, I've got to call you on the carpet.

54:00

Gentleman over here uh had a question about the wind screens.

54:04

Do we still have those and can we get those up rather quickly?

54:08

No, we cannot.

54:09

Uh lady secondary can you come through the microphone?

54:21

Uh to your comment.

54:23

No, they cannot be put back up.

54:24

They've been damaged to the wind over the years.

54:26

Uh they're roughly around 10,000 to replace the entire court.

54:30

We're currently looking on either screens or slats to go in the screens to expend the lifetime of those screens.

54:38

Uh currently I don't have those, but potentially next spring we can look at putting those back in, but I don't have anything curly to put up.

54:48

So do we need to get something on the agenda?

54:51

Do you need some money?

54:52

And what do you need?

54:53

Right me to get them back.

54:54

Write me a check.

54:55

Let me I'll give you some pricing.

54:56

But there again, I'm looking between slats that are I think like what you use at the dog park.

55:00

Like what you use at the dog park.

55:01

That's correct.

55:02

Maybe just a little, they're gonna be longer, they're gonna be a little heavier duty because of that length of them.

55:07

But it's a pricing thing.

55:08

We're trying to get 500 tampers, depending on what goes in there.

55:12

We're just trying to make it to where we're not replacing screens every three years with the wind and the sun we have.

55:16

That it's pretty brutal.

55:17

Understood.

55:18

So that's where I'm at.

55:19

Can we get something on the December agenda?

55:22

Can you get pricing and put it on the December agenda?

55:25

Potentially, yes.

55:27

Let me yes or no, not potentially.

55:28

Yes or no.

55:29

I'm not gonna give you yes or no, but I'll give you a potentially yes.

55:32

Okay, thank you, Randy.

55:37

Thanks, Councilman.

55:39

Um Travis.

55:42

Yes, thank you.

55:43

Uh for our weekly update, um, the boulevard good news.

55:49

Uh the ADA ramp project that Las Vegas paving was doing is complete.

55:54

They are complete with all of the ramps that uh, and they were over a month ahead of time.

56:00

So they came in and had the two or three crews going at once.

56:06

They they just knocked it out of the park.

56:08

They did an awesome job.

56:09

Um, our mill and fill project, which is with uh staker parsons, they have started doing the utility work.

56:16

Um, you've seen the cones down there between Casablanca and the movie theater.

56:22

Um, they're working on the removal and installation of water laterals throughout that section.

56:29

Um, the paving, the latest schedule on that will again it's staying with December uh 2nd, and they will start at the Casablanca, they'll be working on the outside lanes first.

56:42

They'll go to from Casablanca to Riverside and make a loop there, and then they will be doing the inside in those next.

56:51

So, and then they will go from once they get that done, they'll go from Riverside to Grapevine.

56:58

That's the first work zone area for that.

57:02

The schedule is from December 2nd to December 23rd, which is really an aggressive schedule to have that whole section paved back within that time frame.

57:13

So uh that's looking good in that aspect.

57:16

Uh, to council woman gallo's point, the animal shelters going awesome.

57:21

We're probably about 75-80% complete with that project.

57:25

Um, that one is tracking ahead of schedule as well.

57:28

Um, and as soon as we get more of a timeline, we will be uh because we're very proud of that.

57:33

We will want a ribbon cutting and and let everyone know on that.

57:37

Um, as far as you have seen work on Hafen and Levitt Lane on that uh project, they've working on the grading on that.

57:46

And so you've seen uh there's been some awesome pictures put out by Trade West on Facebook, a lot of great uh overhead shots that show the work, and that's going very well right now, too.

57:58

The traffic signal project, um they have all of the boring done underneath Falcon Ridge at the actual intersection and Hardy Way.

58:08

They're bringing the fiber optic line down from flat top Mesa down Falcon Ridge Parkway, and that's the work that you see on Falcon Ridge on that.

58:18

So we do have a lot going on, and once again, I encourage and I'm thankful for all the patience with our uh general public and citizens.

58:27

Um, it has been good.

58:29

Um, and that's where we're at this week.

58:33

Thank you, Travis.

58:35

Any other uh department reports?

58:38

Yes, thank you.

58:39

Martin.

58:40

Um, I would like to invite everyone to a complimentary community Thanksgiving meal at the senior center.

58:46

You don't have to be a senior, we're not gonna check your ID.

58:50

Um, it's open to everybody.

58:52

Um, it is Wednesday, November 26th from 11 to 3.

58:57

And um we have received lots of donations every year.

59:02

Our vendors donate Cisco, US Foods.

59:05

Um, I'd like to thank the Eureka and the Casablanca.

59:09

They have given donations every year.

59:11

So this really is a community type of uh of event.

59:15

Um, in the past we have allowed takeout meals, but I think people during COVID got used to the drive-through and just picking it up.

59:25

And so, like last year, we had some people come in and asked for 18 meals to go.

59:31

And so the idea is that it's a community event that we all sit together and eat together.

59:37

And so this year we're not gonna be doing the takeout meals, but um, we did serve about 1400 people last year.

59:44

Oh thank you, Martin.

59:50

Thank you.

59:51

Um we're gonna head and move on to item 5.1.

1:00:00

Um we're gonna head and move on to item 5.1 Consideration of a conditional use permit number C UP25-006 IANA EVC to approve installation of a public facing DC fast EV charging station with 10 stalls of charging spaces and lit canopy at 920 West Mesquite Boulevard, APN number 001-18-701-005 in the commercial general CR2 zone.

1:00:25

Simon?

1:00:26

Thank you, Mayor, and City Council.

1:00:28

Uh the site is located the northeast corner of the um Casablanca.

1:00:33

Uh, and it is west of the Green Valley grocery shop.

1:00:38

Uh, as you can see, there are existing parking stores with the grabber uh areas.

1:00:45

This is a it'll be blown up.

1:00:49

Uh so uh they are proposing uh 10 store parking spend store charging stations on the west where parking is already paved.

1:01:01

Uh this is uh uh the uh uh the illustration of the uh charging station.

1:01:08

Uh they are proposing again 10 electric charging stations and lead canopies and uh this development will include the uh shade canopies in the gravel area, uh which will be uh this and uh shows like this.

1:01:28

This is a current picture of the site, and uh uh zoning is a CR2, and it is surrounded by the hotel zone.

1:01:41

It is consistent with uh land use element of the uh master plan, and uh it is suitable, it is complementary to the existing uh Green Valley uh state uh store uh with uh uh guest station, and there'll be no environment impact.

1:02:02

This is uh electric charging station.

1:02:07

Um this is the existing parking uh stores, and uh uh they are proposing only 10 uh vehicle charging stations, so they'll we are not expecting uh too many traffic impacts.

1:02:21

Step recommends that the city council hold the public hearing and approve the conditional use permit.

1:02:26

Uh case number C UP25 dash 006.

1:02:30

Thank you.

1:02:30

Thank you, Simon.

1:02:31

Do we have any questions for council?

1:02:34

Okay, seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and open up the public hearing.

1:02:40

Yeah, please come forward.

1:02:41

You have three minutes.

1:02:46

Sammy Mocking, I see you guys.

1:02:48

I'm new to the community.

1:02:49

Um, I'm just wondering like what's the benefit of this for for the public.

1:02:55

This is a public charging station.

1:02:57

Yeah, I know, but like for the the average person that doesn't have an EV, right?

1:03:01

Like I honestly, I just moved here about a month ago, and the city is so well represented with EV vehicles.

1:03:07

I would I would think this is the most EV populated city in America for a city of its size.

1:03:12

So I I really don't see any public benefit of using a space uh for for something that is not gonna benefit the common person.

1:03:21

Right.

1:03:21

So I mean the way I look at it is that that space could be used for other stuff.

1:03:26

Um, I'm sorry, it's my first meeting, so I don't know how much you're good.

1:03:30

Yeah, let them go ahead and give us so you know, like the way I look at it's like how is it gonna benefit?

1:03:34

Isn't there already a charging station at Walmart?

1:03:37

Right?

1:03:38

And last time I checked EV cars, I mean last time I rented one was a few years ago, they have like a 200 mile radius.

1:03:44

So I I just I just don't see like how this benefits the common person uh that's that's walking like myself, and there are a lot of people walking, right?

1:03:52

So I mean I don't see you know that's a that's you use of land.

1:03:55

I feel like that could be used for other other stuff.

1:03:59

You know, so that that's my I have an objection to to this this use, you know.

1:04:03

Like I'm just wondering how how it helps the average person.

1:04:06

Thank you.

1:04:07

Okay, could you uh spell your name for the clerk?

1:04:09

Sure.

1:04:10

It's the last name is D A Y A N First Name is Sammy S-A M M I E.

1:04:18

And I actually walked by that because I'm I'm staying at the motel at the Valley In.

1:04:22

I walk by that site all the time.

1:04:23

That's how I found out about it.

1:04:25

So uh, you know, I'm just like wondering.

1:04:28

Um just for you information, this is uh not a city property.

1:04:32

This is not public, this is a private property.

1:04:36

Right.

1:04:36

Um but you still didn't answer how it affects your average person.

1:04:40

Yes, this is not like a question and answer.

1:04:42

Yeah, very much.

1:04:43

Oh, okay.

1:04:43

Oh no, I was just wondering.

1:04:44

No, I was wondering.

1:04:45

Yeah, yeah.

1:04:45

So we appreciate your comments.

1:04:47

Thank you.

1:04:47

Thank you, Sammy.

1:04:52

Hi, Laura Andrews.

1:04:54

I'm just gonna speak to that real quickly.

1:04:56

Oh, we're all about tourism here.

1:05:00

And uh electronic charging, electronics stations are for tourists also.

1:05:06

Um, I know my ex-husband comes to town and charges his vehicle and plays at the Casablanca.

1:05:14

So there's this this benefits tourists.

1:05:17

We want to encourage tourism because it supports all of our businesses, including restaurants.

1:05:23

You guys want more restaurants, more different restaurants?

1:05:28

Tourists support restaurants and everything else in this town.

1:05:32

Thanks.

1:05:32

Thank you, Laura.

1:05:40

Good evening, council.

1:05:42

My name is Sebastian Graf.

1:05:43

I'm a resident here of Mesquite.

1:05:45

I actually live very nearby this proposed site.

1:05:48

I am in full support of utilizing that private property, however, the council sees fit to approve permits.

1:05:55

We need something that is not a Tesla charger, Tesla specific charger on that side of the freeway on the, I guess you call it the south side of the freeway or whatever it is.

1:06:06

Walmart has DC chargers.

1:06:08

We don't have anything on that side.

1:06:10

So if you don't drive a Tesla and you have an EV, you gotta go to the other side of town.

1:06:14

I agree with other comments that it will be beneficial, especially considering the proximity to the casino and also the gas station.

1:06:21

It will help the development in general of the general of that area here in town.

1:06:27

So thank you.

1:06:28

Thank you, Sebastian.

1:06:34

Good evening, Mayor.

1:06:35

Council members, my name is Tony Celeste address 1980 Festival Plaza Drive in Las Vegas.

1:06:40

I am representing the applicant, so I figure I'd come up and uh just make comments since some of the public had some comments.

1:06:47

Appreciate uh the director's explanation and your staff's recommendation of approval.

1:06:52

We think this is a good project repurposing the site.

1:06:55

A lot of the infrastructure is already there with respect to the paving um as the proliferation of EV cars continues.

1:07:04

I mean, just from 10 years ago to today, it's greatly increased.

1:07:07

And so those charging stations, just like when the vehicle was coming out, gas stations were needed.

1:07:13

So this is the natural evolution of it.

1:07:16

So happy to answer any questions you may have.

1:07:18

And again, appreciate staff's recommendation and do agree with all their conditions.

1:07:22

Thank you, Tony.

1:07:22

Thank you.

1:07:26

Councilwoman Gallow.

1:07:28

Oh, so I I'll close the public hearing in the I'm gonna go ahead and Lucy No step forward.

1:07:33

I'm gonna close the public hearing.

1:07:35

But Tony, could you come back up, Councilman Gellan?

1:07:37

So I did learn something because I didn't realize it was a difference between Tesla and EV.

1:07:41

So are you considering as the city gets bigger and we're getting more and more busy to also add additionally for the EV cars?

1:07:49

I didn't realize that they're different.

1:07:52

This is not for Tesla, this is for this is not Tesla specific.

1:07:56

This is for a more general E.

1:07:58

Oh, great.

1:07:58

Great, awesome.

1:07:59

Thank you.

1:08:00

You bet.

1:08:01

Thank you, Tony.

1:08:02

Any other questions from council?

1:08:06

Okay, with that, I'll ask for a motion.

1:08:08

Councilwoman Fielding.

1:08:11

Thank you, Mayor.

1:08:12

I will make a motion to consider um the conditional use permit CUP25006.

1:08:21

Councilwoman Gallo.

1:08:23

I'll second.

1:08:24

Call for the vote.

1:08:25

Yes.

1:08:26

Galloway.

1:08:27

NSI.

1:08:29

Okay, the motion passes.

1:08:31

Item 5.2.

1:08:33

Consideration of tentative map case number TM-25-008.

1:08:38

Sunterous phase four to approve the subdivision of 25.49 acres of land into 75 residential lots located APN number 001-05-314-002 in the single family SF zones within the Anthem Mesquite PUD.

1:08:56

Thank you, Mayor and City Council.

1:08:58

Before I move on to my presentation, I need to uh talk about one thing.

1:09:03

Uh APN number 00105-314-022 is actually parent parcel number.

1:09:11

Um the when they apply for it, there was a parent parcel.

1:09:16

And then while we were moving on to it, they uh subdivide the land and uh they got a new parcel number, which is uh child uh parcel.

1:09:26

Uh technically, I don't think there will be any problem, uh, but I'm just letting you know.

1:09:32

The uh child departure number is 001 05 dash 315-006.

1:09:40

Thank you, Simon.

1:09:42

Thank you.

1:09:42

And the location is um the uh right east of the horizon boulevard and north of the canyon uh crest, and it is uh identified in the dotted line.

1:10:00

Uh they are proposing sub uh subdivision of uh 25.49 acre or property uh into the 75 single family residential lots.

1:10:07

Uh they are proposing 60 percent of the residential lots and 22 uh percent of roadways and 17.

1:10:17

uh 7% of common lands, which is exceeding requirements of the open spaces, which being the 15%.

1:10:25

Um the zoning is single family, and this is a proposed tentative map.

1:10:34

And the subdivision is a non-uh age restricted and non-gated commercial uh common interest community.

1:10:41

The subdivision proposes a total of 75 single family lots, uh public interior roadways, and commonly held open space elements, and all proposed lots come from to the city's zoning requirements, and the subdivision will generate approximately 718 uh vehicle trips per day or 77 vehicle trips per PMP hour.

1:11:06

Uh Anthem at Musk PUD addressed in the past 2003 uh through the TIA at the time uh at the time of the PUD process.

1:11:16

Uh C build improvement plans, landscaping plans, and stormwater management plans should be submitted for review uh subsequently.

1:11:25

So step recommends the city council approve the tentative map TM25-08, Sunter phase four.

1:11:33

Thank you.

1:11:34

Thank you, Simon.

1:11:35

Any questions from council?

1:11:37

Okay, seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and open up the public hearing.

1:11:42

Seeing no public coming forward, I'm gonna close the public hearing.

1:11:46

Do I have a motion?

1:11:47

Councilwoman Gallo.

1:11:48

I'll make a motion to approve.

1:11:50

Councilwoman Fielding.

1:11:51

I'll second that.

1:11:53

Offer the vote.

1:11:56

Galloway.

1:11:57

NSI.

1:12:01

Item 5.3, consideration of bid award for Horizon Boulevard and Canyon Crest Boulevard 2025 roadway improvements.

1:12:08

Mr.

1:12:08

Anderson.

1:12:10

Thank you, Mayor Council.

1:12:11

Um, so in this same area, the public works received six bids and publicly opened these sealed bids on November 4th of 2025.

1:12:21

These bids range from 3 million dollars to 4.4 million.

1:12:25

Trade West construction was identified as the lowest responsive and responsible bidder.

1:12:31

Um this is for the Canyon Crest and Horizon Boulevard, which is the area that we were just looking at.

1:12:39

So this will create um the finish out horizon for the new fire station and create another lane and median on Canyon Crest Boulevard as we're seeing more and more uh traffic in that area.

1:12:55

Uh like I said, we received the six bids, and it is the recommendation to award the bid for Horizon Boulevard and Canyon Crest Boulevard to Trade West construction in the amount of three million fifty-five thousand five hundred and forty-eight dollars and twenty-eight cents.

1:13:15

Thank you, Travis.

1:13:16

Councilman Wallace.

1:13:19

Mr.

1:13:19

Anderson, did this come in under the engineer's estimate?

1:13:22

It did.

1:13:23

Uh thank you for bringing that up.

1:13:25

Our engineers' estimate on this was 4.4 million dollars.

1:13:29

Um, so they were well underneath like almost 1.5 million.

1:13:34

The next bid closest to them was 3.7 million.

1:13:37

So they were about 700,000 lower than the next bid.

1:13:41

So yes, I feel we're getting a very good deal on this, and uh very excited.

1:13:49

Councilman Parish.

1:13:51

Is this RTC money?

1:13:52

This is also, and I thank you for bringing that up.

1:13:55

I get so accustomed that yes, this is RTC funding.

1:13:59

The city of Musquite uh does not have to pay anything out of their general fund.

1:14:04

Again, this is why we stress uh we're so very blessed to have uh RTC and and the funding.

1:14:11

So, yes, this is all 100% funded through the Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada.

1:14:19

Thank you.

1:14:20

Thank you.

1:14:21

Um seeing no one questions from council, I'm gonna go ahead and open it up for public comment.

1:14:27

Seeing no one come forward, I'm close it for public comment and ask for a motion.

1:14:33

Councilwoman Gallo.

1:14:34

I'll make a motion to approve.

1:14:37

Councilman Ennis.

1:14:39

I'll second that motion.

1:14:40

Okay, call for the vote.

1:14:42

Gallo I go ahead, Paris.

1:14:44

Go ahead, Patty.

1:14:45

Go ahead, Pierre.

1:14:49

Galloway.

1:14:51

Okay, motion passes.

1:15:00

Item 5.4 consideration and approval of the Mesquites Public Arts Commission MPAC to utilize 1,000 from the Charitable Trust Arts Subtrust to relocate a community piano from the Steam Center to the Mesquite Fine Arts Center and prepare it for public use.

1:15:08

The proposed expenditures include 400 for moving costs, 300 for piano tuning and servicing, and 100 for signage, and 200 for paint and design.

1:15:18

The Virgin Valley Artists Association will complete the piano design after a consultation with MPEC.

1:15:28

Karen the reason it is coming before the council is that you are all the trustees of the trust, and you're you signed the checks.

1:15:40

So yeah, and to let the public know that these funds are not coming from Mesquite General Fund, the City Mosquite General Fund.

1:15:47

There is a trust set up for the arts.

1:15:50

So we wanted to use those funds.

1:15:53

This will be a public piano, it'll be under the pavilion at the art center.

1:15:57

It'll be there 24 7.

1:15:59

Somebody wants to go play piano, they can go play piano.

1:16:02

They want to do it in the middle of the day or the middle of the night.

1:16:05

There's um really no housing around there that it's gonna bother anybody.

1:16:09

Probably won't be any lights on, they'll play in the dark if they do it at night.

1:16:12

But um, we have seen these in several other cities, and it's just another way to um allow people to experience some form of art in one way, shape, form, or another.

1:16:22

So anyway, we thought it was a good way to spend some of the trust funds.

1:16:25

Morph has helped us out on the Mesquite Opportunities Regional Fund in procuring the um piano and getting it here from Vegas.

1:16:33

Um, so you know, we've had partners in this too.

1:16:36

So thank you.

1:16:37

Any other questions?

1:16:39

Okay, do we have any questions from council?

1:16:40

Councilman Ennis.

1:16:42

Nope.

1:16:43

Councilwoman Fielding.

1:16:45

Thank you, Mayor.

1:16:46

I have a piano at home.

1:16:49

I moved it from Portland, Oregon.

1:16:52

Um, it was a little bit moister there than it is here.

1:16:55

I had to wait for it to settle before I could have it tuned or anything.

1:17:00

I have some concerns about our heat and our cold and it being wood.

1:17:07

I have concerns about the keys and it being tuned, and I know it's for a thousand dollars, but who's gonna keep the upkeep later?

1:17:17

Um, also in this price, there's no cover, there's no price for covering it.

1:17:23

My other concern is vandalism.

1:17:26

I mean, there's not gonna be any way 247 that we can predict if somebody's gonna vandalize it after it's painted.

1:17:34

Um I know that the money's in a trust, and that charitable trust is awesome.

1:17:40

I just have so many concerns about being out there in the pavilion.

1:17:46

I mean, we get 117.

1:17:48

We get 28 degrees sometimes.

1:17:52

I mean, that wood is gonna fluctuate, it's gonna bow, and then it's gonna go back.

1:17:57

That I am just really concerned about the piano after you take you know, this money that is due to you, I get that, but having had a piano, and I still have one and have to have it tuned.

1:18:13

Um, who's gonna take care of that?

1:18:15

Because those keys are gonna swell.

1:18:18

The wood is gonna swell.

1:18:19

So I have a little bit of um resurrection about doing this because I have the concerns as I just mentioned.

1:18:30

So thank you.

1:18:31

Um, in reply to that, first it is covered because it's under the pavilion.

1:18:36

Okay, we are going to probably try and get a cover for it when the weather gets really bad.

1:18:41

But as far as the heat goes, um, this has been done in other towns where it does get quite warm and it's quite dry.

1:18:48

Um, there is one on the sidewalk next to the arts center in Jackson, Wyoming.

1:18:53

Um, and it's out there all the time, and they their winners aren't nice.

1:18:58

So, anyway, there's um some things we'll look into to try and help keep it preserved as we go through um and work with the art gallery and making sure it's maintained.

1:19:09

Okay, councilman wonless.

1:19:13

When I was young, we had a piano, and I learned to play chopsticks on it, and I was actually pretty good at it.

1:19:20

I just want you to know I think this is an excellent idea for this city, and I think for people from out of town that come here that are on the art walk that are doing the things we're trying to make happen in this city, as they go there and they they can sit down and they can play the piano more than chopsticks, it won't be me, but it may it may end up being something that will be great for tourism and for people that enjoy the arts and that are down there all the time.

1:19:51

So I think this is a wonderful idea, and I would support it 100%.

1:19:57

Anybody any other questions from council?

1:20:00

And I don't want to offend you, Karen.

1:20:03

But when I equip piano lessons when I was 12 years old, that was one of the great days of my life.

1:20:07

It's okay.

1:20:08

So that's okay.

1:20:09

But I do appreciate my mom was a piano teacher and there is no problem.

1:20:13

Love her to death, but I did not love practice on the piano.

1:20:16

But I can appreciate how great it is.

1:20:19

So thank you.

1:20:21

With that, we're gonna go ahead and open up public comment.

1:20:30

Thank you.

1:20:32

Thank you, Mr.

1:20:33

Mayor, City Council.

1:20:35

First of all, I think this is a fab.

1:20:37

Oh, I'm sorry, my name is John Rosen.

1:20:40

I think this is a fabulous idea.

1:20:43

I think it is an even better idea that it will be incorporated into the First Friday Arts Walk, which I've attended now.

1:20:51

I've I've attended the first two.

1:20:54

I'm looking forward to the third one.

1:20:56

It is an amazing, amazing experience for our community to interact with each other and with the incredible number of artists we have in this community.

1:21:05

So I fully support this.

1:21:07

Thank you.

1:21:08

Thank you, John.

1:21:19

Ron Shackleford, uh personal experience.

1:21:21

I have to give kudos because I uh had an heirloom uh wood table from my mom, and I brought it back here from Kansas City, and it disintegrated.

1:21:35

So something to keep a thought of.

1:21:37

Um when you have it there, the the wood will shrink and my table's gone, and it was a real nice heirloom that my mom gave me.

1:21:46

So um just food for thought.

1:21:48

Just keep that in mind that you know, wood does shrink here.

1:21:52

So thank you.

1:21:53

Thank you, Ron.

1:21:57

Okay, seeing no one else come forward, I'm gonna go ahead and close public comment.

1:22:01

And Councilman Innes.

1:22:03

I'm gonna go ahead and make I was gonna turn my microphone on first.

1:22:07

I'm gonna go ahead and make a motion to approve uh the Mesquite Public Arts Commission to utilize a thousand dollars from the charitable trust for this project.

1:22:14

Councilman Gallery?

1:22:15

I'll second.

1:22:15

Okay, call for the vote.

1:22:18

Parish I NSI Galloway.

1:22:21

Okay, motion passes.

1:22:23

Item 5.5 consideration of conditional use permit permit, case number C UP-25-005, vacation rental home to operate a vacation rental home at 697 Lolita Lane, APN number 001-17-111-001 in the single family residential SF district.

1:22:46

Simon?

1:22:47

Thank you, Mayor and City Council.

1:22:49

Um this is a favorite uh topic here.

1:22:53

So before I get into the each details, um, I'm I'm gonna uh make a presentation about uh what is required uh for the uh short-term vacation rental in our code.

1:23:06

So this is a lot uh approved allowed through a conditional use permit.

1:23:11

And this uh section MMC2 uh is about uh uh business and license sections.

1:23:18

Um it talks about uh what is the benefits of it and what would be the problem potential problem, uh so how we're gonna address it and all those stuff.

1:23:30

Uh then uh there is a compliance standards uh that we require their applications, and uh owners need to provide their contact informations and and the liability insurance need to be provided, and if they have a CCNRs and buy lows, they need to provide those information, and then they need to abide by uh minimum uh the size of the uh bedroom uh and the bed uh and then maximum occupancy and parking uh details and all those.

1:24:02

Um zoning uh the uh listric restrictions, MMC 213-7 uh says property must be in a district to allowing vacation rental as a permitted or conditional uses, and must comply with all other uh the regulations.

1:24:23

Um that uh we need to make sure is uh maximum occupancy limit.

1:24:31

Maximum uh it allows up to 12 uh dirts, uh excluding children under 12, uh maximum of two person per sleeping room, uh plus two extra persons uh uh allowed.

1:24:45

Um and the parking compliance, open IPQ because uh limited to designated on-site spaces only.

1:25:03

But if it is a short-term residential rental, it does not allow it because this number of vehicles that is limited to is only limited to on site spaces.

1:25:26

But it says no outside audible noise between 10 p.m.

1:25:31

to 8 a.m.

1:25:33

So it is pretty strictive.

1:25:36

And they need to, of course, compliance with the new science, nuisance and disorderly conduct laws, and owner must be able to prevent any uh disturbances on site.

1:25:54

They need to post the notice on site nearby the hallways and maximum occupancy and vehicle numbers and trash collection rules and parking rules and all those need to be illustrated there and talk to the visitors what they need to do and what they shouldn't do.

1:26:17

And they need to uh keep the health and safety standards, they need to clean it regularly, and they need to comply with a certain Naval Health Department requirements, and they need to uh place the local contact information, and they must respond within one hour.

1:26:39

So the reason why I'm talking telling all those details is so far nobody actually knew this, and uh I need to let everybody know this is our regulation.

1:26:53

And uh the short-term rental residential rental uh the operators, they need they need to uh openly understood and uh educate their uh the visitors too, and the neighbors need to know uh their rights, uh, and then they need to pay taxes, of course.

1:27:13

And in enforcement and penalties, uh the violation include uh non-compliance with the standard conditions, and uh it also include the first or misleading application information, and the failure failure to collect remit taxes, and then uh mostly failure of local contact uh to respond.

1:27:36

Uh they need to respond within one hour again.

1:27:39

Uh if they are in violation, uh first violation will get them uh warning notice, and then second, uh fine uh citation uh with the fines up to 500, and then third uh violation will get them uh license suspension uh and then uh fourth will uh make their license revoked.

1:28:05

Um so there are uh a lot of things we need to do, and uh uh there is a regulation that is tougher than outside, probably tougher than regular houses out there.

1:28:21

Um now I need to also understand the site specific issues.

1:28:26

What are the site specific issues?

1:28:28

Has the property been used for vacation rental illegally?

1:28:32

Has the vacation rental license been suspended or revoked?

1:28:36

Does the property involve in any code enforcement issues?

1:28:40

Does the property provide in up parking spaces?

1:28:44

Does the property provide privacy fence or worse?

1:28:48

This is curable by the way.

1:28:50

We can put some of some of this into the conditions.

1:28:54

The problem has been that uh we supposed to have a networking system uh the in the uh city.

1:29:02

Um so uh when complaints come in and they complain mostly to the uh the uh the police department and then police department go visit the vacation rentals, but they couldn't tell if it is a vacation rental or regulation of family homes.

1:29:21

So there's a stock of information, they keep all those information in-house, but they are not, they have not been communicating communicating with us.

1:29:32

So this connection was separate.

1:29:35

So it's my fourth in over site.

1:29:38

So I have been working with the police department to establish these connections.

1:29:44

So we created that database.

1:29:48

So from now on, police uh go to the uh site uh with the complaints and then they check the addresses and they will find it is a vacation vacation rental.

1:30:00

Then uh they're gonna find if the complaint is legitimate, if it is uh sold, then uh they will notice us uh so that we we can uh business license or code enforcement can further work on it and may issue the uh warning letter citations and suspensions and devocations.

1:30:24

So I created, and we are getting there, and my apologies for everyone that uh we have not been there, so we didn't know what's going on out there.

1:30:34

So we heard about it, but at the same time we were working on it, and we are getting there.

1:30:40

And if you have any issues, you can uh you please call the police, but at the same time, please send me email or uh leave a message so that I can uh act on it too.

1:30:53

So having said that, I'm gonna get on to the CUP-25-005, uh, vacation rental applications.

1:31:02

And the site is on Lolita Lane, uh, south of Old Mill Road, west of Great Vine Road.

1:31:11

And it is surrounded by existing single-family homes.

1:31:16

And uh they have three bedroom house, so it allows maximum eight uh guests only.

1:31:24

And this is the side picture.

1:31:28

And this is it.

1:31:31

Uh so uh again, uh vacation home lenter can be approved through a conditional use permit.

1:31:37

Uh and uh uh I couldn't find any negative information from the site, and uh I cannot recommend anything.

1:31:46

Uh the that has not been happened on site.

1:31:50

Uh so uh the that can be denied.

1:31:54

So uh my recommendation uh on this is uh uh the city council hold the public hearing and approved the conditioner use permit case number, CUP-25-05.

1:32:06

Thank you.

1:32:06

Thank you, Simon.

1:32:08

Do we have any questions from council?

1:32:11

Okay, seeing none, we're gonna go ahead and open up the public hearing.

1:32:16

Dominic Oliveto and forget the veteran shirt because I'm not representing the veterans.

1:32:21

I'm not saying the people in my neighborhood.

1:32:24

I live in Desert Road Subdivision.

1:32:26

I'm down the street and around the corner from this place.

1:32:29

And the comment was made for me not to leave this microphone until I broke the table down because they're against this.

1:32:36

Now, if you took those pictures that well, I'm sorry, Mayor, I know I'm not supposed to do that.

1:32:40

If they took pictures of that house, which is a beautiful house, uh the gentleman that lived there was a prince of a man, his dog was fantastic, great guy.

1:32:50

I hate to say anything bad, but while they were taking that picture, why didn't they go two houses to the east and see the two abandoned cars?

1:32:57

Now, my idea of an abandoned car is two cars parked off the driveway in the gravel with no license plates on it.

1:33:03

It's a rental unit.

1:33:04

It has three cars parked in the front yard, two cars parked in the driveway, and who knows what's in the garage.

1:33:11

That's complaint number one.

1:33:13

Nobody enforces that.

1:33:14

Complaint number two, Desert Rose Street 176 was for sale two years ago.

1:33:21

It sold.

1:33:22

Now it's a vacation rental.

1:33:24

I never had the opportunity to come in here and voice my opinion about it.

1:33:29

I think you guys are between a rock and a hard spot because you got dual.

1:33:35

My wife told me I couldn't swear in here, so I'm working really, really hard at it.

1:33:39

I appreciate that.

1:33:40

Uh I don't understand why all of a sudden this is back here for the second time.

1:33:46

The majority of the people in the neighborhood are mad.

1:33:49

Now, this desert road address I just mentioned is back to back with High Watha Street.

1:33:55

Three houses to the north of that come to me today and said, When you go to city council, because we're afraid to talk to those people, would you please tell them we're tired of the noise down there, and there are three houses to the north of where this place with the pool is.

1:34:09

Uh I said this last time, and I'm gonna say it again.

1:34:14

Most of us moved in this place because there was no HOO A, no CRCs, and it was single family, no rentals.

1:34:22

You guys don't even know how many vacation rentals are going on.

1:34:26

Uh corner of uh Wildfang and Haiwatha, that's been a vacation rental off and on for a year and a half.

1:34:34

And I'm sure it doesn't have a permit because I know the gentleman that owns the place and he's too lazy to come down here and get one.

1:34:41

I don't think you'll enforce this.

1:34:43

These people might be the best in the world, but once you let one place in, you get another one.

1:34:49

And for God's sake, vote no, because I don't want my neighbors coming up and stoning my house tonight.

1:34:54

Thank you.

1:34:55

Thank you, Dominic.

1:35:03

Good evening again, Council.

1:35:05

Again, I'm Sebastian Graf.

1:35:06

I am also a reserve resident of the Desert Rose community.

1:35:10

I happen to live on Desert Rose Way on the west side of the street.

1:35:16

The aforementioned house that is in consideration brings some challenges that I think you guys need to be aware of that I don't think were properly portrayed in the pictures of the house in question.

1:35:30

It is on a corner right where Lolita turns onto Desert Rose Way.

1:35:35

Right there on that is a that's a curve.

1:35:37

So if you make a turn either direction off either street and you have people parking there, which you know, unfortunately, like people have mentioned in the past, you don't have one car, you rarely have two cars.

1:35:49

You got five, 10, 15 people show up and pack themselves into these vacation rentals.

1:35:56

It's already a tight corner.

1:35:58

That parking issue is a problem.

1:36:01

The house down the street that already has a uh vacation rental on Desert Rose that has a pool.

1:36:10

It's noisy, it's trashy, we've got all sorts of issues.

1:36:14

I also have had my own direct neighbors come to me and say, hey, this is a problem.

1:36:20

Please go and voice your opinion.

1:36:22

We have multiple rentals already in the community.

1:36:25

It's degrading the quality of living for the people who chose and seeked out this specific community for no HOA, quiet, established, good, clean, low-crime neighborhood.

1:36:38

It's changing that.

1:36:39

It's affecting our quality of lives as residents of this community.

1:36:45

And I would implore you guys to ask yourselves the questions before you choose to approve this permit.

1:36:52

Would you want this as your neighbor?

1:36:54

Would you want this on your street?

1:36:58

I don't.

1:36:58

I'm sorry.

1:36:59

I moved a mesquite, not for this.

1:37:03

I moved to Mesquite for the reason that I feel a lot of people do.

1:37:07

Peace, quiet, serenity, low crime rate.

1:37:12

Let's not tax our resources or law enforcement, our code enforcement with the problems that we all know come along with these vacation rentals.

1:37:24

And what happens when you have one, two, three, five, ten in a neighborhood, and they're all booked on a Saturday night?

1:37:33

You know there's going to be problems.

1:37:37

Please just consider when you approve these things or deny them, the long-term impacts that will be felt on the residents, the future residents, and the people.

1:37:48

Let's keep it local.

1:37:50

Let's keep it where it needs to be.

1:37:52

Thank you for your time.

1:37:53

Thank you, Sebastian.

1:37:59

Mayor, Council Nickelphon Setti.

1:38:02

Uh I have a question about this type of system.

1:38:07

Uh, from what I understand, there's like 250 of these uh units that are permitted.

1:38:13

Um actually are showing that they have them rented on a weekend.

1:38:23

Is there any way to trace that?

1:38:26

And now, if they're not being traced, and there's a problem.

1:38:31

Do they get to keep the permit?

1:38:34

Or is there a violation?

1:38:36

And in the violation, what happens to it?

1:38:39

Three violations, two violations, whatever.

1:38:42

Uh, you know, we say, well, they got a conditional permit to have it.

1:38:48

Okay.

1:38:49

But then again, if it was rented and they don't have a way, you don't have a way to check it to see if that money's coming into the city, or if the fact it's just being freelanced, rented, nobody has proof of it.

1:39:05

Obviously, uh Code doesn't know it.

1:39:08

The only people that know it are the people living next door when the noise starts, when the problem happens.

1:39:14

So I think that you know, someplace along the way, Airbnb, somebody needs to start submitting when these units are done, when they're rented, when they're uh occupied, and if they're not on notice that they're going to be rented for that Saturday, Friday, whatever, or even during the week, the fact that the city has no idea.

1:39:38

And I say, how many in the course of a week get rented?

1:39:44

The city doesn't have a clue how much money's coming in.

1:39:48

We don't know as citizens, but we do know when the police are called that there's a problem, something's going on.

1:39:56

You know, whether it be uh whatever, noise, parking, whatever, people just acting stupid.

1:40:03

Uh, you know, so I just say that if it's worth the money, let's make it worth the money, but also let's have checks and balances to this permit.

1:40:13

Thank you for your time.

1:40:14

Thank you, Nick.

1:40:22

Hi.

1:40:24

Mayor and counsel, I'm Loretta Corp.

1:40:27

I don't live in this place, but I live in in Mesquite.

1:40:30

I've been here for 25 years.

1:40:32

I live in a single neighborhood or uh single homes.

1:40:37

And next door to me now is is rental places.

1:40:41

And I am really not happy with it.

1:40:44

It's uh, you know, it it just is it has ruined our my ability to sit outside on the weekends because they're not making noise at night.

1:40:54

Well, they do some, but I sleep pretty good.

1:40:56

But during the day, if I want to sit out there, they're watching football, they're playing ball, they're jumping in and out of the pool, they're having fun, which they should do.

1:41:06

They've paid $500 a night to live there, they're going to use it, and they're going to put a they bring often bring a truck that has four wheelers on it, and they're going to they can't fit in the driveway, so they have to take the front.

1:41:22

I have one on each side.

1:41:23

I'm some sandwiched, and it feels like motels next door.

1:41:27

I never know when they're going to come or if they're going to come.

1:41:30

So my planning, you know, if I had a neighbor, I might say, I'm going to have a family birthday party.

1:41:37

Uh, are you doing anything that Saturday?

1:41:39

Because there'll be some noise in my yard.

1:41:41

That that can't happen because nobody knows.

1:41:44

It's our it feels like commercial property, and it isn't.

1:41:49

So please help us.

1:41:51

I think it's getting worse.

1:41:53

And someone down the street told me they had three across the street, but there aren't permits.

1:41:58

I never saw anything a permit.

1:42:01

I was never talked about it.

1:42:04

I didn't know if we even had rules.

1:42:06

So when the people, they're nice people, they don't live in this state on both sides of me.

1:42:11

They didn't buy the home to live in.

1:42:13

They bought it for making money.

1:42:16

I agree.

1:42:17

I think it's wonderful if you can have income property, but not next door to me if you're going to use it for somebody every different different every day.

1:42:26

I'm uncomfortable, and I love my home.

1:42:29

I'm 89.

1:42:30

I don't want to move, but I want to stay there, but I want to be free and comfortable, like I've been.

1:42:37

Mesquite's a lovely city.

1:42:39

I love this place.

1:42:40

And what you offer is just what I need, except this.

1:42:44

So please help us.

1:42:46

We need it.

1:42:47

Thank you.

1:42:48

Thank you, Loretta.

1:42:56

Seeing no one else come forward, I'm going to go ahead and sorry.

1:43:09

My name's Gary Plumby.

1:43:11

I bought a place here.

1:43:13

I live over on Camille Circle.

1:43:15

And you guys just authorized a new Airbnb right behind my house.

1:43:21

If you guys want to look at the ad on that, they're offering a night stay for 12 people.

1:43:26

You know, hey, they can be quiet at 10, but from seven to nine, I got to deal with all these people already.

1:43:33

This is the craziest thing I've ever seen.

1:43:35

Now I came from Salt Lake, Cottonwood Heights, where we became a city.

1:43:39

The mayor did something that was very popular, but did saved us in that city was designated Airbnb areas where if you can have a development where those can that's what that establishment is, that's what it can be.

1:43:53

Because if you just let them go everywhere, like in Salt Lake, it's created such a problem for everybody.

1:44:00

You guys are seeing this stuff on the news.

1:44:02

St.

1:44:02

George is having the same issues.

1:44:04

Once this is in, this is a nightmare.

1:44:07

I feel sorry for that poor lady.

1:44:08

She doesn't even know who these people are.

1:44:10

They're people coming from wherever.

1:44:12

These can be criminals.

1:44:14

Who knows?

1:44:15

I mean, this I feel sorry for her.

1:44:17

At least I'm there for my wife.

1:44:18

But when I die, she's there alone.

1:44:21

And now I got 100 that place is booked till the end of November right now.

1:44:26

And it just they just started it.

1:44:28

You guys okay to I didn't get a notice, I didn't get nothing.

1:44:33

I don't understand how that can happen.

1:44:36

And I know this is new to you guys, but you got to get this under control because this could get ugly fast, so fast that nobody could buy a house here because it's being bought up by investors.

1:44:47

I just I'm just really disappointed because there's nothing I you guys can do for me.

1:44:51

This guy's got his permit, he's legal.

1:44:54

He's built a hotel in the back that seats that sleeps four people.

1:45:00

So he's created a 12-bed, 12-person hotel behind my house in the normal, you know the area.

1:45:06

Camilla Circle is just a regular area.

1:45:10

Uh I'm just disappointed, and I wish that you guys could help us out if there's anything we can do to eliminate this.

1:45:18

Thanks.

1:45:19

Thank you, Gary.

1:45:28

Jeff Reynolds, really short.

1:45:30

If you're doing this for money, that's wrong.

1:45:33

How would you like to live next to a frat house with the parties and the loud noises and all those things?

1:45:40

What if they moved in next to you?

1:45:42

You wouldn't be very happy.

1:45:44

And why would you approve something like this as a frat house?

1:45:51

Because that's basically what they are.

1:45:53

You know, you're doing a disservice to your constituents here.

1:45:58

Thank you.

1:45:58

Thank you, Jeff.

1:46:05

All right, I had to write mine down.

1:46:08

Members of city council, thank you for your time.

1:46:10

Give us your name first.

1:46:11

My name is Vanessa Giebink.

1:46:13

I was born and raised here in Mesquite.

1:46:14

My husband and I are both both work here and we are raising our children here.

1:46:19

This is our home.

1:46:20

I began researching short-term rentals because my grandmother, who you just heard speak, very powerful lady, has Airbnbs on both sides of her home on Quell Run Street Street.

1:46:31

What I found made it clear that the issue affects far more than one street.

1:46:35

Many STRs in Mesquite are being marketed in ways that do not match single family neighborhood zoning.

1:46:41

Some listings advertise the ability to host large groups by combining several nearby luxury estates within walking distance to accommodate up to 60 people with optional chef services, massage therapists, and wholesale golf pricing.

1:46:56

That is commercial, that is commercial lodging, not a residential vacation home.

1:47:01

Single family neighborhoods are not meant for rotating groups of transient guests, large gatherings or resort style living.

1:47:09

Large gathering uh when a home is marketed as a mini resort, it stops functioning as a residence and becomes a commercial operation.

1:47:16

We are already seeing the long-term impacts, a full cluster of townhomes across from the dog park is now used as STRs.

1:47:23

That was just my simple search looking at VRBO, Airbnb.

1:47:27

The whole section there, at least 50%, are Airbnb or short-term rentals.

1:47:32

These should be attainable homes for working families.

1:47:36

Whether they are rented long term are bought up, and an investor rents are or an inventor rents them long term or a family can purchase those homes.

1:47:54

SDRs can support tourism when they are balanced and responsibly regulated.

1:47:58

But it is not the city's responsibility to ensure an investor earns a return they hope for.

1:49:07

Thank you.

1:49:08

Thank you, Vanessa.

1:49:15

Okay, seeing no one else step forward, we're gonna go ahead and uh turn it back over to council.

1:49:19

Any uh questions from council, Councilman Parrish.

1:49:27

I've been meeting with uh development services uh director Kim over the last two weeks over this.

1:49:35

I've been stressing over this mightily.

1:49:38

Um everybody needs to get a copy of his presentation.

1:49:46

There are safeguards in there for every resident of Musquite, Nevada.

1:49:51

The important thing is if there's a car on the street, call the cops.

1:49:56

If there's a beach ball in your backyard from the neighbors, call the cops.

1:50:01

Call about everything.

1:50:03

We're only a small police force and we're a small council.

1:50:06

We need help from the public to police these.

1:50:17

To me, that's plenty.

1:50:20

So with a December meeting, I'm going to put on the agenda to ask for a moratorium on vacation homes in Musquite, Nevada.

1:50:29

Um I'm I'm sorry, I'm sorry that I can't do anything about the three that are on the agenda tonight.

1:50:39

Um but Dr.

1:50:42

Kim has got some really, really strong, strong guidelines that we can follow, and we can police the ones that are listed by us and the ones that are not listed by us.

1:50:56

We need to get rid of the ones that are not even licensed by the city of Mesquite.

1:51:00

Please turn them in.

1:51:02

Call the cops every day, call them every hour.

1:51:04

I don't care.

1:51:05

Let's get a listing of all the bad people and get rid of all the bad guys, and we'll keep the good guys and we'll have a great city.

1:51:12

Thank you.

1:51:15

Councilwoman Fielding.

1:51:19

Thank you, Mayor.

1:51:20

Um with 244 vacation rentals that we have right now.

1:51:27

Um that is one percent of our 24,000 population.

1:51:34

Actually, it is uh 1.85% or yeah, uh we have a 13,000 twenty fourteen houses.

1:51:44

Perfect.

1:51:44

Well, thank you for that, Simon.

1:51:47

Um, and I am leaning on the side of I hate to dictate to our homeowners who live in those areas that can have a VRBO um Airbnb.

1:52:04

And I'll be honest with you, I must be the contrary because whenever I go and take my family to a VRBO, I am the best tenant there.

1:52:14

I fix things.

1:52:16

I mean, not everybody is bad, and I don't think that we should um predict something bad's gonna happen when it doesn't.

1:52:25

And yes, do some things happen, like councilman Parrish said, call the police.

1:52:31

You know, I'm do we know how many people are renting Airbnbs?

1:52:37

Are the taxes coming back to the city of Mesquite?

1:52:39

I think that that's where it comes to the property manager who collects those taxes who knows and then pays the city back, whether it be um Airbnb.

1:52:51

I know they do it.

1:52:52

Um, Premier Properties does short-term rentals.

1:52:55

I know that they pay the taxes, but are there some that rent those that we don't know about?

1:53:00

Possibly, and that's where we need to find out who those are so we can actually get those money back.

1:53:08

Um but with that being said, I don't think that we should dictate to um the residents who can have a um short-term rental.

1:53:19

And so, are there any other comments, Mayor?

1:53:21

Uh yep, councilman Innis.

1:53:23

Okay.

1:53:26

Thank you.

1:53:27

I as councilman Parrish has done, I've done a lot of research on the on these SRTs here, uh especially since the last city council meeting.

1:53:36

I'm in I'm in agreement with councilman parrish on uh putting a moratorium on this down the road so we can get caught up.

1:53:43

We need to get caught up.

1:53:44

There's too much.

1:53:45

I've I've heard from whole whole bunch of people out there on emails and face-to-face.

1:53:50

Um, there's a lot of these rentals, these 244 rentals.

1:53:53

There's some out there that don't even have licenses.

1:53:55

We need to get caught up with this.

1:53:56

We need to find out who they are.

1:53:57

We need to get rid of them.

1:53:58

We need to yank licenses.

1:54:00

Um, I I uh commend those folks stepping forward to three tonight, stepping forward and at least presenting their their battle cry per se to us uh for approval on what they want to do.

1:54:13

With that being said, and then now I know who their faces are, we are going to hold them accountable to what uh Simon has put up on the board.

1:54:23

And uh Tracy, if you guys get shorthanded, I'll bring my retired badge back out and go out and help you all.

1:54:28

I don't have a problem with that.

1:54:29

I don't have a problem being a bad guy.

1:54:31

Uh and um, so I think that you know in with tonight not being part of this in the future, um, we need to put a moratorium on this so Simon and everybody can get caught up on this code enforcement for these rentals.

1:54:47

Thank you.

1:54:49

Any other questions or comments from council?

1:54:51

Councilwoman Gallo.

1:54:53

Let me and let me just jump in here again.

1:54:55

We've talked about a future agenda item about a moratorium, and there shouldn't be any more comments about that, right?

1:55:00

Because we're I know I'm the bad guy always, but we don't need to be discussing that because we've already had two comments on it.

1:55:06

We don't need another um because that could be brought up in a further item.

1:55:09

But if any other comments related to the specific agenda item, that'd be appropriate.

1:55:14

Okay, councilwoman gallery.

1:55:15

So I um I my concern was legally where we're at, because I understand that these three that are on the agenda are pretty much a done deal.

1:55:25

I mean, we can't because based on legally what's what's been happening that that's correct.

1:55:32

Um I did analysis, and again, I cannot make a recommendation on the basis of something that has not been happened.

1:55:40

Umce uh the city uh denies it, what's gonna happen is because uh cities uh based on the general concerns, not the site specific concerns, then city cannot be able to approve any short-term residential rental in the future.

1:56:00

Uh some people may think that it it is a good idea, but uh uh thing is uh there is a reason uh we have uh short-term residential rental ordinance in our code.

1:56:12

And uh I regret that I actually couldn't uh get you satisfied with it because I simply did not know uh what's going on out there.

1:56:24

Uh so uh we need we need to uh understand that there is a private uh property right and that there is a public health and safety.

1:56:35

Uh the it it has a really thin line in between that line.

1:56:40

Right now we are talking about private property uh the uh rights, not uh actually the something somebody actually violated in that property.

1:56:51

So um the my recommendation is uh based on uh some the something facture uh that is on the code.

1:57:01

So that's why my recommendation is approval.

1:57:05

Can I can I also um I understand that uh these several of these homes or three of these homes have made concessions to make it more acceptable to the communities as well as for example getting rid of bunk beds, six-foot wall yes correct.

1:57:21

Uh but uh this this one I I haven't heard anything about the negativity about this case is but uh we have a regulation there, and although it may not have a condition auditional condition to this one, but uh at uh before we issue the conditional use permit, we will go out and do the inspection.

1:57:42

Uh code enforcement and uh building inspectors will go out there.

1:57:47

By the way, we don't have a quote enforcement officer on board right now that she resigned.

1:57:52

So um uh I have a building officer uh ready to go out and double check the site, and uh uh if there will be the bunk bed that will be removed.

1:58:03

And if there is no uh the purpose of fences, that should uh must be uh erected.

1:58:10

Uh so uh we have a certain standard that we will make them in compliance.

1:58:18

Thank you.

1:58:19

Councilman Parish.

1:58:21

Okay, so I've visited all three sites, so let's get back to this particular one.

1:58:26

Um if you put the picture back up of the front view, you'll see that yes, yeah, you'll see that there's probably about a 10-foot fence on the uh that'd be the west side on the back side, it's about 10 feet on the east side, it's a five-foot wrought iron fence.

1:58:51

So if we approve this, I am going to say that they've got to put up a five-foot privacy fence.

1:59:00

That's one of the conditions, because the lot next to them is lower, so therefore the sound will go right down into that lot.

1:59:09

If they put up a five-foot privacy fence, that should eliminate a lot of noise that would come from the backyard.

1:59:16

We generally recommend the six-foot okay, six foot.

1:59:25

That would be my recommendation to council.

1:59:27

I don't know if anybody else has actually gone and looked at these uh properties, but I I spent about two hours going through all three of them, and uh that's the one thing I can see about that one that we need to we need that privacy fence on the west side.

1:59:42

So that needs to be a condition of approval.

1:59:46

Okay, councilwoman filty.

1:59:49

I was just gonna make a motion if the comments do we have any other questions or comments from council?

1:59:54

Okay, seeing none, councilwoman fielding.

2:00:00

I will make a motion to approve permit number CUP 2500 five with the condition that there is a six-foot privacy fence on the one side.

2:00:10

West side, west side.

2:00:12

No, I was gonna say I'm looking at the west side.

2:00:15

Yeah, the east side.

2:00:17

Yes.

2:00:18

Okay, that's my motion.

2:00:20

Okay, councilman Ennis, your lights on.

2:00:22

Did you I'll second that motion?

2:00:24

Okay, call for the vote.

2:00:25

Building ISIS aye.

2:00:31

Galloway.

2:00:33

Okay, motion passes.

2:00:35

Item 5.6 consideration of conditional use permit case number C UP-25-004, Desert Mountain Vacation Rentals to operate a vacation rental at 950 Santa Fe, APN number 001-10-10-039 in the single-family residential district.

2:00:55

Mr.

2:00:55

Kim.

2:00:56

Thank you, Mayor and City Council.

2:00:58

Um, the site is located the Santa Fe Vista subdivision uh to the east of the Santa Fe Drive, and it is surrounded by single family homes.

2:01:12

And uh house has uh two-bedroom uh, but uh they have a one casita, so uh they that'll allow maximum eight guests other guests uh here.

2:01:23

Uh but to me is the picture of it, and this is a side picture.

2:01:31

And as I uh look into the site, I found that uh they have railings instead of fences.

2:01:38

So I'm adding a condition to uh the install uh six-foot privacy fence.

2:01:46

This is the uh the I believe it's a south side, south side.

2:01:54

So vacation home rental uh can be approved through a conditional use permit.

2:02:00

And this is my recommendation, but uh uh before I talk about the uh the this uh uh recommendation, uh about two hours prior, two hours, three hours prior to this uh this meeting, uh I had an email from uh the community member uh and that uh the he or she found uh that uh it was listed on uh VLVO or lady.

2:02:28

So I I look looked into the uh website with my STEM members, and I found that uh the um the reservation was blocked off uh and uh it only allows more than seven uh 27 days, which becomes a long-term residential rental.

2:02:48

So they are not uh the in not in uh the in compliance with the day they are in compliance with the short-term residential rental right now because they are not applicable right now.

2:03:04

Uh so having said that uh step recommends that the city council hold the public hearing and approval conditional use permit case number CUP-25-004, and subject to meeting general code requirements and specific compliance standards and uh additional condition conditions include uh by the way, the applicant uh the uh promised that he would go with this.

2:03:31

So uh first removal or bunk beds.

2:03:35

Uh we knew I heard we we knew that uh uh he had a bunk beds uh in the house.

2:03:42

Uh he promised that he will remove and uh uh the code enforcement building officer will go out there and double check uh if it'll be removed before we issue the permit, and the maximum eight visitors will only be allowed.

2:03:58

This was from the applicant himself, so uh this will be uh abide by and then uh third the installation of six-foot private uh private fence or water uh toward the neighboring prop uh properties.

2:04:13

So uh with that conditions, uh step recommend approval of this item.

2:04:18

Thank you.

2:04:19

Thank you, Simon.

2:04:20

Any questions?

2:04:20

Councilwoman Filling.

2:04:22

Thank you, Simon, for all this um background that you've done.

2:04:27

Um and we did get the email the other day that the applicant um will remove the bunk beds in the casita because I know that was one of the concerns before.

2:04:37

Um, second the privacy fence is first and foremost, and they've agreed to do that.

2:04:44

So I feel like they have met your conditions.

2:04:48

Um, and again, I don't want to dictate to them what we can do with their pride property if it's in a non-HOA and a VRBO Airbnb short-term nightly weekly rentals are available.

2:05:02

So thank you.

2:05:03

Councilman Parish.

2:05:07

As I said earlier, uh I visited all those sites.

2:05:19

Two, excuse me.

2:05:21

Um I would like to make it a condition that at least one of them be removed and maybe the second be removed.

2:05:29

Um if those aren't removed, we could go from eight people to 20 people really quickly.

2:05:35

So we need to take a hard look at the RV hookups.

2:05:39

Um I don't know what council would like to do, but uh in my mind, I I one of them has to go at least, and I'd prefer to have both of them go.

2:05:48

Thank you.

2:05:52

Councilwoman Gallagher, did you?

2:05:54

I agree.

2:05:56

I agree.

2:05:58

I don't think um, I don't think that along with the housing we need to have the mobile, the mobile hookups.

2:06:07

I think that because then you're no longer looking at the eight.

2:06:12

So that's kind of going against what you what you have here.

2:06:18

Yes, ma'am, it's not my decision to make.

2:06:20

Right.

2:06:21

Are you sure?

2:06:22

So um I think uh I agree.

2:06:26

Councilman Wallace.

2:06:28

Travis, I just have one question.

2:06:30

When people build a home and they hook up to sewer, it was always my understanding that they had a sewer hookup to their house.

2:06:39

And if they had to hook up other connections, there would be other charges.

2:06:44

Is that the case?

2:06:46

Not necessarily.

2:06:48

Um there's what you have is the general uh surcharge on that of 1,900 for a residential home.

2:06:58

There are we try to limit those because yeah, if you're there's two things with that.

2:07:08

One, if you're using it for your own uh trailer, you're going out, the you have a different rate, it's more concentrated in you know, a system like that as it reaches the this the collection system and then also into the into our treatment plant.

2:07:28

You can, and they they've made good points.

2:07:31

You you could have a trailer that was pulled into a garage or something, and somebody living inside that and it's going into that sewer, and so that is somewhat of a legitimate concern.

2:07:43

If it's closer to the outside and they have the trailer next to the road, it's pretty easy to identify that somebody's living in that trailer and and that isn't um an approved situation.

2:07:55

But yeah, for your question on that, um, most of the time we do have those because a lot of people like to be able to drain their individual trailers, you know, as they come home and do that.

2:08:08

And so it has been just usually one with the home as they're building their their house.

2:08:16

So so I can appreciate that.

2:08:18

I've owned trailers and fifth wheels and motorhomes for years.

2:08:25

But if people, if it's a VRBO and people are actually living in trailers at the property as well as inside the house, that would be in violation of the conditional use permit.

2:08:38

Is that correct, Simon?

2:08:39

Because it would be more than eight.

2:08:40

Yeah, that is correct.

2:08:42

Um the maximum is 12.

2:08:44

Uh the other uh, but uh uh we uh our short-term residential rental does not actually address anything about uh uh the RVs.

2:08:57

But now we can think of again that uh who's gonna come to uh house and rent to the house and stay in the RV.

2:09:11

Is it happening?

2:09:13

Okay, I I used to park my during the summer.

2:09:16

I parked my RV up at north and our I'd go up and stay in it.

2:09:20

My brother's backyard.

2:09:22

So now now then I I'm gonna uh talk to you uh on the basis of the code, what it says.

2:09:28

So our code says that it is based on the number of rooms, not the RVs.

2:09:34

Uh so uh if they have uh two rooms in the house and maybe one casita, uh that makes uh eight other members can stay in the house.

2:09:46

So plus two, it means that the two people can stay in the living room.

2:09:51

Uh that is the assumption I I believe.

2:09:54

Uh so um I don't know if we should regulate RVs.

2:10:02

It it is actually up to the city council uh in the decision, but it is not in the code about the RV shall not be approved in there.

2:10:12

Uh so um the what I can tell you is the maximum number of uh people who can uh visit that uh specific house uh is limited.

2:10:27

So I'm sorry, uh I want to kind of clarify a little bit on on my side as far as the sanitation.

2:10:35

I do agree with your comment.

2:10:37

So as you're looking at a home, um, it's one thing if it's your home and you're uh utilizing that every once in a while after you go off a trip, but I do agree that um it does promote for the ability for somebody to stay in that and use that as a hookup with that.

2:10:56

So I don't necessarily have a problem if somebody's coming down and staying in an RB in the driveway or whatever, but I do have a problem if they're coming down and hooking in to that sewer that could be more of because for apartments for condos for anything that's a higher use, we do charge more for those uses.

2:11:17

And so I it it would be similar to I think what you guys um are asking that those RV hookups would be removed if that was a stipulation, just kind of like with the conditions to include the removal of the bunk beds.

2:11:34

Um that would be my two cents on on that of having those removed.

2:11:40

And maybe not even completely taking away two of them, but at least one of them and only having one, and let the homeowners know that it's only for their use.

2:11:52

And it's just after they've used their own recreational vehicle.

2:11:56

How are you gonna write?

2:11:56

And it's not for people to come and stay in their yard and use as a hookup.

2:12:04

Um fielding, councilwoman filling, you are first, then councilwoman gallow, then councilman Innis.

2:12:13

Oh, head on.

2:12:14

Okay, so um I I agree with the RV hookups.

2:12:20

If there were two, possibly one, but what's gonna happen, in my opinion, is if the owners decide to sell later, RV hookups with an RV pad are beneficial to the house.

2:12:35

So I could totally understand removing one and keeping the other one, which is an advantage and for the owners.

2:12:45

Um are the owners would they be willing to remove one and not even remove it?

2:12:51

Because how do you even remove a dump system?

2:12:55

You just would cap it off.

2:12:56

So it's not necessarily a dump system, all it is is an average clean out like you have going into your home.

2:13:03

So you're just putting the hose into there.

2:13:05

So you go and you cap that by you dig down and you put a PVC cap onto that.

2:13:10

The other part of that is it's no different than if, say you have that as a stipulation on a Airbnb or a short-term rental, sorry, um, is if that is a stipulation, they go and sell that property, but they want to do that, they hire a contractor to dig that up.

2:13:28

I'm not saying they have to go all the way to the street, right?

2:13:30

But they would dig down, cap that.

2:13:32

If they did sell it in the future, hire a contractor, dig down, extend that back up, and voila, they've got that right back.

2:13:39

Okay.

2:13:40

So I mean realistically, what we're talking about is you're being able to cap it at the surface to where it's not usable.

2:13:47

But if you wanted to sell that property in the future, and that is an added bonus when you're going to sell that, you can bring it back up and have that readily available.

2:13:58

I'm not asking for them to go into the street and cut that and make it so they couldn't use it ever, ever in the future.

2:14:05

But as a stipulation for some of these, it does make sense to have that not an option.

2:14:11

Okay, perfect.

2:14:12

Thank you, Travis.

2:14:14

Okay, so my concern, um, I know we talked about how many people allowed in the house, but we're not counting children.

2:14:20

What is considered a child and how many children can be allowed in this the home?

2:14:24

Code says child children is uh defined under 12.

2:14:29

Uh so they could have as many children at the house as they want.

2:14:33

Yeah, that it is my interpretation.

2:14:35

That's a concern.

2:14:36

That is a real concern.

2:14:38

Yeah, it's a concern.

2:14:39

Yeah, that's a concern.

2:14:41

Councilman Ennis, did you still have a no?

2:14:43

Okay.

2:14:44

Any other questions or comments from council?

2:14:46

Hey, are we done with public comment?

2:14:49

We haven't started it yet.

2:14:51

Okay, yeah.

2:14:52

Um, seeing none, we will go ahead and open the public hearing.

2:15:02

Dominic Olivetto, Mesquite residents.

2:15:04

I'm disappointed.

2:15:06

Totally disappointed.

2:15:08

You people up there are elected by the citizens here, and most of the citizens here do not want this to happen, and you really don't care.

2:15:17

It's it's a crying shame that because we came here and we bought where we bought for a particular reason that you can change it.

2:15:26

You can change it from residential, and you can't tell me this doesn't make a commercial, it makes a commercial property not residential.

2:15:33

And I heard one of the city employees told one of my neighbors that they'd get sued if this was turned down.

2:15:40

Well, hate to tell you this, but we can afford a lawyer too, and I'm really disappointed in all of you.

2:15:46

Thank you, Dominic.

2:15:54

All right.

2:15:56

That was me that sent the email because I'm concerned.

2:15:59

I'm David Giebink.

2:16:02

Glad to be here.

2:16:04

I'm building a new home here in Mskete.

2:16:06

Unfortunately, right next to where we're building is an STR.

2:16:10

And it's been a nightmare.

2:16:11

Let me just I'll just be quick on this part.

2:16:13

When we were pouring the concrete, I put cones out all over the road because they would come and they would park everywhere.

2:16:18

You know what?

2:16:19

Sam's coming out with his big truck, a pumper truck, all this stuff.

2:16:22

Guess where the cones were at 4:30 in the morning, through out right in the middle of my right in my pad.

2:16:26

I go and pound on their door.

2:16:28

They said this is my road.

2:16:29

And him and I have con big conflict.

2:16:32

Anyways, that was my first run in with them.

2:16:34

The uh so the one on the agenda tonight, the one on Santa Fe, it would be right behind the existing one I already have.

2:16:41

So they're touching.

2:16:42

Okay.

2:16:43

We need some sort of spacing requirements.

2:16:46

We really do.

2:16:46

I I don't think that's asking for much.

2:16:48

I'm not asking for a full shutdown.

2:16:50

I'd like it.

2:16:50

We don't want to end up like a hotel like my mom, you know, where she is.

2:16:54

That's like a hotel down there.

2:16:56

We're not an HOA, so we really count on the city.

2:16:59

We count on the city to help us.

2:17:00

You know, we chose to pick to pick this ground because we thought it would make sense.

2:17:04

Well, it's not having uh two two STRs, one on both sides of her home.

2:17:09

She's scared, she's concerned.

2:17:11

There's a constant flow of strangers becoming a real problem.

2:17:14

Both the SDRs tonight on the agenda are already in violation.

2:17:17

Whether you can read that email a little bit more, you'd find out they're advertising.

2:17:21

They're at that one you talked about earlier.

2:17:23

This one right here is advertising 10.

2:17:25

They know what they're doing.

2:17:27

Why would you approve something that's already advertising this?

2:17:30

I found it, I printed it.

2:17:31

I've I gave it to you guys.

2:17:33

I dropped it off at code enforcement.

2:17:34

I dropped it off with uh the whatever the lady's name was there at licensing division.

2:17:40

They they were the one, the other one that's coming up.

2:17:42

It's currently you can book it, just so you know.

2:17:45

During my brief investigation, I came across at least 14 more that have violations.

2:17:51

So do we call the cops when we say they have too many?

2:17:53

When do we call the cops on everything or do we call you guys?

2:17:56

I turned all those in too.

2:17:57

You guys are losing grasp on what's going on.

2:18:00

We need to stop this right now.

2:18:02

Let's get caught up and let's make sure we're not making mistakes again and again.

2:18:07

I uh I just think that one thing no matter what we do is at least let's talk about limiting some spacing.

2:18:12

You know, I don't think we're asking too much.

2:18:15

If you want to look tonight for something to do, go on there and put in 20 rooms and see how many comes up.

2:18:20

You're gonna die.

2:18:21

Just like my daughter said, there's one that offers stakes, massages, and everything.

2:18:25

That's I mean, that shouldn't exist.

2:18:27

Who's doing this?

2:18:28

Who is get who pays to go do this?

2:18:30

You guys aren't doing anything that I can tell.

2:18:32

I did my homework and I found 14.

2:18:35

You know, and you guys have them.

2:18:36

They're the city.

2:18:37

I hope you guys do something with it.

2:18:39

That's how I feel.

2:18:40

Thank you, David.

2:18:41

Yeah.

2:18:52

I know you don't care about the neighbors.

2:18:54

We've turned these in two meetings ago, so you don't.

2:18:58

Could we get your name, sir?

2:18:59

Doug Honschell.

2:19:01

I live at 960 Santa Fe, next door to this situation.

2:19:10

If I can cover a couple things in the city code, 2-13-11 requires a written agreement for parking and a maximum maximum occupancy.

2:19:25

I don't see that in a zoning request.

2:19:31

Uh, this is not a question and answer period.

2:19:34

So I'm questioning if one of the councilman would have like to ask a question.

2:19:39

Requires a written agreement for parking and macum maximum occupancy.

2:19:46

I also question here if they remove the the bunk beds, it's a two-bedroom house, two people per bedroom, two additional.

2:19:57

That doesn't equal eight.

2:20:00

I took math years ago, but that only comes up to six.

2:20:03

If you approve this for eight with the stipulation of no bunks, and a maximum of eight, that will be a serious problem.

2:20:14

Furthermore, there are many locations on the permit that requires a local contact.

2:20:22

Am I correct in that?

2:20:26

Where's your overhead dealing?

2:20:29

Here's the original permit.

2:20:36

There is no contact person.

2:20:56

And I like Tom, he's a great guy.

2:20:58

I just don't want his water park next to my house.

2:21:03

But how can it this should be approved to begin with without the legal document being filled out?

2:21:13

I agree with somebody else earlier.

2:21:15

Asked, how do you know when you're collecting money?

2:21:18

You don't know, you're taking their word for it.

2:21:21

Here's another one.

2:21:27

Occupancy.

2:21:32

Eight, ten, twelve, fourteen.

2:21:40

I agree with the last guy.

2:21:42

You people are an embarrassment to this city.

2:21:51

Nine, eight, seven.

2:21:56

Good luck.

2:21:57

Thanks, Doug.

2:22:05

Honorable mayor, council.

2:22:08

Not a lot has changed from when you saw my face on the last council meeting.

2:22:13

The only thing that's changed.

2:22:15

Oh, I'm sorry.

2:22:16

Clark Strong at 970 Santa Fe Drive.

2:22:22

The only thing that's changed is we've had more neighbors in the Santa Fe Vistas wanting to sign the petition that Doug has been helped helping taking around.

2:22:31

The outrage in the community is very strong.

2:22:35

We do not want a vacation rental.

2:22:38

Not that we want real estate agents to lose revenue, but we want them to sell what's already what's the word I'm looking for, uh allowed in the neighborhood, not coming to a uh and get a cap or a cup on an existing property when they decide to turn it into a rental.

2:23:02

I can go through many pages here of points, but under your own MC 213-2, it says the council finds and declares as follow follows and the key issues.

2:23:16

A provide a community benefit.

2:23:21

This is not providing any benefit to our community in Santa Fe Vista.

2:23:26

It only increases noise, it increases traffic.

2:23:30

Transient police patrol.

2:23:32

We've had experience with the property that's bordering this that the application is up against.

2:23:38

There are four others within a thousand feet of this property that's up for review.

2:23:45

We have had enough and enough is enough.

2:23:48

And if we are being told next month you're gonna put a pause under your A provide a community benefit, I want to know what benefit this provides to anyone besides the owner and the rental company.

2:24:06

I also want to read a description on Zillow that I printed this morning, and it's for this property.

2:24:18

Discover the ultimate getaway in Mesquite.

2:24:20

This beautiful home offers a resort-style backyard that feels like your own private oasis, complete with a sparkling pool spa, outdoor dining lounges, and plenty of sunshine.

2:24:32

It is beautiful.

2:24:34

The spacious layout includes uh casita bunk bed and RV parking with hookups.

2:24:41

That's not even mentioned in this application.

2:24:44

So you have the basis not only of a provide a community benefit, but the in my opinion, the application is not thorough.

2:24:58

I thank you for your consideration.

2:25:00

Thank you, Clark.

2:25:09

Mayor Council Nickel Fansetti.

2:25:13

My question is this, and again again, I'm I'm I'm just putting this out there.

2:25:19

What is the difference between a residential home and a commercial home?

2:25:26

And I think that's a definition that needs to be put together.

2:25:30

Because when you're putting a conditional permit on it, it sounds like it's commercial.

2:25:37

It's being advertised as a commercial place for residency.

2:25:42

Now if you get $500 a weekend, that's $2,000 a month.

2:25:49

Okay.

2:25:49

Besides fees and that.

2:25:52

But now what's the difference between that and renting out a home?

2:25:56

Average home rents out for about $2,000 a month.

2:26:00

There's no hassle, there's no problem.

2:26:02

The person is there.

2:26:03

You're used to it just being the same people, and you deal with it.

2:26:08

But when you've got this transient situation that's happening, you don't even know who's there.

2:26:12

And I feel sorry for the poor woman that's in between two of them.

2:26:16

I know what it's like to be next to one, but it's worse when you got two of them.

2:26:21

So I say if it's a commercial real estate, then that's what you're dealing with.

2:26:26

It's a business.

2:26:27

It's not, it is not residential.

2:26:31

Now, most of us live in residential or we rent.

2:26:34

Okay.

2:26:35

And uh I just say there's a problem there because now you're issuing a license to have a business in that location, and it was never built with that understanding.

2:26:49

Now, go one other direction.

2:26:52

Uh Mr.

2:26:53

Wilis, you mentioned that you've been in RVs uh all along, and I'm not questioning you on anything, but I'm gonna make a statement.

2:27:03

Statement is talking about sewer.

2:27:06

Ever hear of a macerator pump?

2:27:10

What it does is it takes solids, it turns it into liquefied, and you can put it down any drain that's available, whether it's a clean out drain, whatever.

2:27:22

You could cap both of those, both of those dump uh inlets into the sewer system, but believe it or not, you could take that macerator pump with a hundred foot garden hose and put it in the toilet, so it doesn't stop the point of putting an RV in that yard.

2:27:41

A macerator pump does exactly that, it just turns it into liquefied mess.

2:27:48

So that's another thing to consider.

2:27:51

You can take the sewers out, you can cap them, but you know what?

2:27:55

If somebody wants to move in one of those units, a trailer, put another five people, eight people, whatever is possible, something to consider.

2:28:04

Thank you for your time.

2:28:05

Thank you, Nick.

2:28:17

Okay, real quick.

2:28:18

Vanessa Gee Bink.

2:28:19

One thing I want to bring up that I think is really important that everybody's thinking about is this is affecting non-HOA neighborhoods.

2:28:26

So when you mention 1.8% for 13,000 something homes, we should look at what that percentage is for non-HOA, because it's much much higher than 1.8%.

2:28:41

So that's something we really need to consider because, like mentioned, without protection for our non-HOA neighborhood, like the city is the only thing that we have, and I remember driving up by the high school, and every single house that are is now an Airbnb VRBO, families used to live there.

2:29:01

I'm the only real young person that's up here talking about this, and it's because I care.

2:29:06

I wanted to be in Mesquite for a reason.

2:29:10

And I know other families want to be in the C.

2:29:13

But when they purchase these Airbnbs and BRBOs, they are able to pay a higher price because the difference between what you can rent it, the Airbnb that we're talking about tonight, they've been trying to rent it $3,900 a month.

2:29:27

I think they have two contacts on Zillow.

2:29:29

If they can rent it out at an Airbnb rate, you're looking at almost 15, 20,000.

2:29:36

I get it.

2:29:37

That's assuming it's rented for the whole entire month, but that's the difference.

2:29:41

So it's coming down to how much money, you know.

2:29:43

People, and I get it, like there's businesses, there's realtors, there's a reason why this is taking place.

2:29:50

But look at Vegas.

2:29:51

What has happened to Vegas?

2:29:53

Pine Valley, they had to shut those Airbnbs down because every single house is being bought up by an investor.

2:30:00

Because why wouldn't you?

2:30:01

I'm an investor myself.

2:30:02

I invest in long term.

2:30:04

I've thought about Airbnb.

2:30:05

A matter of fact, Mesquite is recommended as a great place.

2:30:09

And you want to know why?

2:30:11

Because no regulate the regulations.

2:30:13

We talk about this conditional use permit.

2:30:16

That is nothing.

2:30:17

That is not enough.

2:30:19

We need more spacing.

2:30:21

And don't feel sorry for saying no.

2:30:25

Don't feel sorry for denying these Airbnbs.

2:30:28

These aren't the families that live here.

2:30:30

These are the investors that are coming in from out of state and maybe occasionally a family that gets into Airbnb and strikes a big, and I love that for them.

2:30:39

But I don't, you know, I'm not worried about these investors.

2:30:43

I'm worried about the families and the seniors that live here.

2:30:47

And that's all I have to say.

2:30:50

Thank you.

2:30:51

Thank you for that.

2:31:00

Mayor City Council, my name is Cindy Strong.

2:31:03

I live at 970 Santa Fe Drive.

2:31:06

When we first moved here 20 years ago, there was no such thing as a vacation rental in our neighborhood.

2:31:12

Then came 931 Monaco Circle about 10 years ago.

2:31:16

During COVID, we've had a massive influx of um vacation rentals.

2:31:22

Now we have four that are registered with the city within a thousand feet of each other.

2:31:29

That means we go on four vacations every weekend with all of these people.

2:31:34

I'm not against vacation rentals.

2:31:37

I think they all have their place and they all have their purpose.

2:31:40

I'm against them being so clumped into our non-HOA areas that the residents can't breathe.

2:31:48

Thank you for your time.

2:31:50

Thank you, Cindy.

2:32:02

Sebastian Graf, resident of Escape.

2:32:05

I ask consideration from the council.

2:32:09

If you guys are considering putting a more moratorium on the applications or permits for this next upcoming session, is there a possibility to move these votes, postpone them until then get this sorted out?

2:32:27

Because the ones you approve now, those permits stay.

2:32:31

It doesn't give due process to the people that are here tonight, trying to make sure that this is done properly, that people are able to be heard to so that way the you have the shall I say so that way you have everything as a level fair playing field.

2:32:51

The people that are here tonight are gonna get screwed.

2:32:56

Do your moratorium next week.

2:33:00

Please consider postponing this week's votes till next session.

2:33:05

Thank you.

2:33:06

Thank you, Sebastian.

2:33:13

Mayor, City Council, my name's Karen Taylor.

2:33:16

I live at 940 Santa Fe Drive.

2:33:19

And I'm agreeing with everyone that wants these things denied.

2:33:23

They've said everything I really wrote down to say, but I do want to clarify one thing.

2:33:28

Uh he has said he will remove bunk beds.

2:33:32

They are built-in bunk beds, they are part of the casita.

2:33:36

I have a picture of them.

2:33:38

They're not going to be removed, they are permanent fixtures unless he completely remodels his casita, and it'll sleep eight.

2:33:47

So thank you.

2:33:48

Thank you, Karen.

2:34:02

Mayor, council members, I'm Ryan McCorman.

2:34:05

I'm the owner of 950 Santa Fe Drive.

2:34:09

I appreciate your time tonight.

2:34:11

And I just wanted to clear up a couple of things as far as um bunk beds, yes.

2:34:17

I did put bunk beds in.

2:34:18

It was a two-bedroom home.

2:34:20

I tried to provide a nice place for me and my family, my kids, my future grandkids to stay.

2:34:28

And that's that's why I did what I did and why I built what I did.

2:34:32

I thought I did a very nice job.

2:34:33

I love the place, and I want to keep it that way.

2:34:36

I want to keep it nice.

2:34:37

But I am willing to make concessions to satisfy, you know, for this conditional use permit, which would be the fencing, removable bunk beds.

2:34:47

Um, as far as RV hookups, um, I've got two or clean outs that are code.

2:34:55

You have to have one for each structure.

2:34:58

So there is one for the casito, and there is one for the house.

2:35:01

Those are clean outs for code.

2:35:03

You don't simply dig them up and cover them.

2:35:08

Uh they're there for a reason.

2:35:10

They're there for any blockage in the future, they're for plumbers to use.

2:35:15

They are there for code.

2:35:16

We put them in during construction.

2:35:20

So as far as that goes, that's that's what those are.

2:35:24

Um I uh have heard a lot about how noisy these places are, unruly, um, a problem.

2:35:39

And I was curious about that.

2:35:41

And so, because I never had that problem myself.

2:35:45

Um, I'm a host, and I also rent uh BRBO's Airbnbs.

2:35:50

Um, I'm always very respectful, and everybody I know that go with me are, and people that use my places have always been very respectful.

2:35:58

I never had a problem.

2:36:00

So I did reach out to the Mesquite Police Department and got reports on all of the properties in my neighborhood.

2:36:08

I didn't go across all of Mesquite, obviously, but the uh six properties that are in our area, they went back as far as 2013 for me, and I do have a couple.

2:36:27

I have a noise complaint on chaparral back in November of this year, and it was uh determined it was a cannon at the high school that which made the noise, so it was dismissed.

2:36:42

There was no further action by the police department on that one, and I've got another one more noise complaint, July of 23 and 769 Rancho Circle, and it was some excessive music who was asked to be turned down.

2:37:05

That was the end of the complaint.

2:37:09

Uh the only other one we've got is 9:39 Monaco Circle.

2:37:13

Your time's up, thank you.

2:37:15

Thank you for your time.

2:37:17

Thank you.

2:37:20

My name is Sherry Hallenbach, and I just first of all I just want to say thank you so much for everybody bringing up this information because whenever there's no communication asking, war starts happening.

2:37:28

Every single one of you guys in here are bringing up information, a lot of information.

2:37:35

Yeah, address us, address the chair, please.

2:37:37

Thank you.

2:37:38

Thank you.

2:37:39

But I just wanted to make a really quick point, is how well each one of you guys are handling all this feedback out here and all the work that you've done behind the scenes is not going notice.

2:37:49

I just want to because I could just appreciate you guys on that.

2:37:51

And to make another point is with all the stipulations that Simon went in to go and explain all these different details and how easily these kids these properties can be revoked if it is a bad property, if they're breaking the laws.

2:38:01

I don't see why we're having this much discussion.

2:38:03

I'm glad you bring it up.

2:38:04

I don't see why we're having this much discussion over the past uh uh over all of this, because if they break the rules, then call the police.

2:38:13

And just like what Mr.

2:38:14

Parrish said, call the police again and again and again and again.

2:38:17

That's all you have to do.

2:38:19

So that's what I wanted to say.

2:38:21

Thank you guys for putting on play.

2:38:24

Please allow people to talk.

2:38:26

Thank you.

2:38:27

My name is Claudia Havens.

2:38:29

I live in Santa Fe Vistas, I've lived there for 28 years.

2:38:33

I'm a little disappointed with the counsel who is worried about the resale value of his home if he has to take those RV dump things out.

2:38:44

Well, you don't worry about the resale value for us on our homes if we end up with a lot of these short-term rentals in our property in our in our neighborhood.

2:38:53

Who's gonna want to live there?

2:38:56

It's gonna all be it's gonna be all be short-term rentals.

2:38:59

They're the only person that are gonna buy it there are those people.

2:39:02

No residents gonna want to live there with all of that going on.

2:39:06

Thank you.

2:39:07

Thank you, Claudia.

2:39:13

Jeff Reynolds, I just wanted to say that you can make all the regulations you want, and it's not gonna stop things from happening.

2:39:21

Banks have steel doors on their on their vault, and they still get broke into, and they still steal things out of there.

2:39:28

I think the people here don't want break-ins of the of the bank.

2:39:32

Uh, you know, you say, well, it only happens once in a great while.

2:39:36

Well, we don't want it at all, you know, because it it's not us that's doing it, it's people that live out of state that are gathering the the the welfare, not everybody, but anyway.

2:39:47

Thank you, Jeff.

2:39:56

I'm Julie Romano.

2:39:58

That's my mom.

2:40:00

Um, because I go take her dinner every night.

2:40:02

I see her house.

2:40:04

Every single day that I'm here, six months out of the year.

2:40:07

And there are so many times I can't get in her driveway.

2:40:11

It is blocked out.

2:40:12

She's so nice because she loves these owners.

2:40:15

They're nice to her, they bring her baskets, they they're really friendly.

2:40:20

But so she doesn't like to do much, and she will if she has to.

2:40:23

But she's already been told by when she was walking her little dog yesterday, the guy next to the one side, because she is, you know, she's encased by these now.

2:40:33

The guy next to the one side, she asked him how he feels about it.

2:40:36

She said, Well, the the people that own this Airbnb have already talked to me, he's in his 90s about when I want to sell.

2:40:42

Please, here's my number.

2:40:44

So, you know, we are talking commercial real estate at this point.

2:40:47

I mean, look, you know, really, it's it should be just zoned that way if this is what we're gonna do, because that will make three in her little four-person area.

2:40:56

Again, I think the geographic area is critical.

2:40:59

These Airbnb people know where to go.

2:41:01

They know exactly what to do, and they're making a lot of money.

2:41:05

Hey, I'm not saying I don't want to do it someday, but I mean, there's gotta be some limits to the amount that can be around these people.

2:41:12

I just hope you really take a look at that.

2:41:14

Thanks.

2:41:15

Thank you, Julie.

2:41:22

See no one else step forward.

2:41:23

I'm gonna go ahead and turn it back over to council for questions.

2:41:26

Councilwoman Galla.

2:41:29

This whole thing makes me extremely uncomfortable.

2:41:33

Um there's been a lot of really good points made tonight that we were not aware of.

2:41:38

I don't know where we legally stand on some of this.

2:41:41

Um, specifically because we've already approved one, but there's been some really great points made.

2:41:47

And uh, I think to I'm not allowed to use the word, so I won't use the word, but to your point, um, councilman Kevin Parrish.

2:41:55

Um, I'm really concerned.

2:41:57

I'm really concerned about moving forward.

2:41:58

So, what is our legal?

2:42:00

I mean at this point, because one was approved.

2:42:05

I there would be significant legal concerns if the others weren't.

2:42:08

Um, part of that is because of the equal protection clause, where similarly similarly situated parties need to be treated similarly.

2:42:16

And so the first one was approved.

2:42:18

There'd have to be some other significant reasons specific to this actual that would be different from the other one that have to be shown to justify an approval.

2:42:26

If that couldn't be shown, then it'd be a pretty simple claim to bring against the city that it'd be a violation of equal protection.

2:42:33

So my next question is uh we did approve one.

2:42:36

Can that be brought back for this season?

2:42:39

It's been approved, so no.

2:42:47

Thank you.

2:42:50

Any other questions from council?

2:42:54

Okay, seeing none, councilwoman fielding.

2:42:58

I'm gonna make a motion to approve conditional use permit.

2:43:02

CUP2504.

2:43:05

Do I have a second?

2:43:07

I'll second.

2:43:09

Okay, call for the vote.

2:43:10

Give me a second.

2:43:11

Um is it uh with the decent conditions?

2:43:17

Simon, thank you so much.

2:43:18

I have my notes right here.

2:43:19

Yes.

2:43:20

Um with the six-foot privacy fence and removing the bunk beds.

2:43:26

Um, and as I understand, RV hookups are just clean outs, so that those are different, correct?

2:43:35

So yeah, I did want to point that out.

2:43:37

So a clean out is different from an RV hookup.

2:43:40

And so if you're if but if the apartment or the short-term rental is advertising RV hookups, that is not right.

2:43:51

Then an RV a sewer clean out is meant to clean your lateral for the instance when it is um blocked up.

2:44:00

It is not intended to be used as an RV dump.

2:44:03

Okay, so if that it can be uh that's a clarification, and I'm glad you brought that up because when I'm looking at it, a clean out is not intended to be used as a lateral dump.

2:44:15

So that would be this situation.

2:44:18

Okay, perfect.

2:44:18

So then I will rephrase that that I will approve the conditional use permit, CUP 2500 four under the conditions, a six-foot privacy fence would be installed, remove the bunk beds, and the RV hookups, and also um change the marketing details for the residents, not to include RV.

2:44:42

Thank you.

2:44:44

Okay, do I have a second?

2:44:47

Okay, we have a second call for the vote.

2:44:53

Parish no.

2:44:54

NASA.

2:44:55

Gallon, no.

2:45:01

Okay, the motion passes.

2:45:04

Item 5.7 consideration of conditional use permit case number C UP 25-009.

2:45:11

Holland back vacation rental to operate a vacation rental home at 475 Park View Drive, APN number 001-10-412-001 in the single family residential SF district.

2:45:26

Mr.

2:45:26

Kim.

2:45:27

Thank you.

2:45:48

I would ask you please uh go outside to have your conversations.

2:45:52

Thank you.

2:46:01

Okay.

2:46:02

And uh um it is surrounded by single family residential zoning, uh, but uh to the west, there is a public facilities, it's a courthouse.

2:46:13

Um and uh it is uh 5,225 scale feet one story building.

2:46:19

There is a five bedrooms and five pool baths uh which allows maximum 12 overnight uh guest.

2:46:27

Uh has a three-car garages and three car spaces on driveway.

2:46:32

Uh so uh it has uh uh plenty of parking spaces too.

2:46:37

This is the property.

2:46:39

At first uh um I what I was uh concerned about those railings, but uh when I got into the house, I found that uh uh it was blocked with uh um the private expenses uh to the uh north and south this way.

2:46:59

And this is the building uh before I make uh um the recommendation.

2:47:06

Actually, I was gonna make a recommendation to approve this uh case, but uh uh previously there was a gentleman um who came over and uh um the told me actually sent me information about that this house has been uh making uh uh VRBO the vacation rental advertisement, and I found that it is actually true.

2:47:32

Uh and even I found uh there is a one uh review uh from the customers.

2:47:39

Um so uh it is in violation.

2:47:43

Uh normally if this happens, we find uh along the search.

2:47:48

If we find that this happens, then uh we send a warning letter and then uh make them to apply for the conditional use permit to get a business license.

2:48:00

But it is in the middle of the uh business license application.

2:48:04

I don't know why the applicant couldn't wait.

2:48:08

Um but uh uh that that is uh that has been our uh regular uh process if you find first violation issue the warning, second violation, um the then uh we uh the issue the citation and then third uh suspend it and then fourth we uh revoked the uh license.

2:48:33

So in this case, I would say the first violation already.

2:48:38

Uh so it it's up to the city council's determination.

2:48:44

Thank you.

2:48:44

Thank you, Simon.

2:48:46

Any questions from the city council?

2:48:49

Councilman Innis.

2:48:51

Simon, has has the applicant as he even they even applied?

2:48:55

They even turned in an application yet uh for a license for this place to be an SRT or S T R me.

2:49:02

Yeah, yeah.

2:49:02

They've already turned in an application in.

2:49:04

Yes.

2:49:05

Uh they applied for it, but they haven't got a license yet because conditional use permit has not been approved, but uh they are often open for business right now.

2:49:16

So they've already rented it out without getting a large.

2:49:18

I believe so.

2:49:19

But the applicant can talk about the details um today.

2:49:28

Okay, councilwoman villain.

2:49:31

Thank you.

2:49:31

That would have been my other question.

2:49:33

Has um although it has advertising, is there proof that it's already been used in as an Airbnb prior to the approval of the conditional use permit?

2:49:47

Yes, uh, there was a review.

2:49:50

She said that uh they had a really good experiences uh in that house.

2:49:56

Okay, thank you.

2:50:00

Any other questions from council?

2:50:03

Okay, seeing none, I'm gonna go ahead and open it up for the public hearing.

2:50:10

Okay, well, thank you guys again so much for everything you put up with today.

2:50:15

Um, my name is Sherry Hallenbach.

2:50:17

And um, first thing is this right here.

2:50:22

And one thing too that I wanted to go ahead and do is this is the picture of all the different neighborhoods, um, all the different houses that we went in here.

2:50:29

And what we did to make sure that everybody um we heard everybody and we wanted everybody to be on board with us is we went through all the different houses that were within the 500 feet and went and sat down with every single buddy, everyone there that was answered their door, and we got either their support uh via signed petition, or we also got signed letters from them.

2:50:49

And I'll pass them over to you guys.

2:50:51

The ones that aren't circled in, they were either vacant or they weren't home.

2:50:55

We did have a three people voice concern and the concern was on the parking.

2:51:00

And so we went ahead and we did address it.

2:51:02

We put it um into the requirements that there's no on-street parking, there's just going to be um six cars allowed.

2:51:07

There's gonna be three cars in the parking garage because there's a three-car garage, and then three cars in the actual driveway.

2:51:14

Um here's all of the support there.

2:51:19

And um, as far as the the booking actually being onto the Airbnb in the very beginning, whenever I listed it on there because we have two other ones, I know how important reviews are.

2:51:30

Um, so what I went ahead and I did was I did one ahead and I did put it on there with the intention whenever I did that, I didn't realize you were gonna be going through this process.

2:51:38

And we have the option to deny bookings.

2:51:40

Um now the review that's actually on there, and I'm more than happy to have them contact you or Rachel Guys the Leather, it's actually part of my network marketing team.

2:51:48

So when my network marketing team, which is like my family, they hit different rewards in the company.

2:51:53

Then as a reward, we gift them different, like we get to where they can actually come here on site.

2:51:57

We've been doing it for years at the other properties where they get to bring their family or their buddies or whatever they want to do, and they get to save the complimentary.

2:52:04

And exchange, what I get to do is I get to drop down the rate of the Airbnb down to minimal $100, so they can actually book it, I read from the money, and then they get to go ahead and make one a review through that way.

2:52:16

And so it wasn't actually a paid guest, it was um many people that's actually I can say the family there on my team.

2:52:23

And so that's that's the backstory on that.

2:52:26

And um I definitely I wanted to explain that.

2:52:31

Um that's the explanation there.

2:52:36

I want to continue whenever we very first got the other two properties.

2:52:40

Um we did go ahead and we met all the expectations that was required at that time, and I saw that Simon had put in new expectations on there, and so we're more than happy to meet whatever expectations.

2:52:49

One thing we're gonna be doing is we were recommended to um the back fence was preferred to be a little bit higher.

2:52:57

Um, a suggestion, and so we're gonna go ahead and move forward and raise the fence, although it's not required.

2:53:02

We're gonna raise the fence in the back, and we're open to any and all suggestions and um because we want to do what we've been doing the last several years, and that's setting the standard for Airbnb and all of us working together.

2:53:14

That's mine.

2:53:15

Thank you.

2:53:15

Thank you, Sherry.

2:53:21

Hello, Michelle West.

2:53:23

Um, thank you for hearing us, Mayor and Council.

2:53:25

Um, I um, as you know, am helping Sherry uh with her Airbnbs, and I actually have done one of those reviews myself as uh, you know, obviously a lot of Airbnb reviews are actual people who've stayed there, but it's just a part of a marketing thing.

2:53:44

So if you would just go back and see who those reviews are from, you'll actually see my name on some of the reviews.

2:53:51

Um I think a lot of concerns that were voiced today.

2:53:58

I understand those.

2:54:00

I own a two-story home in a neighborhood where until very recently, I was the only two-story home of my neighborhood that even had children in the home.

2:54:12

Now only one of the other 10 do.

2:54:15

So I, of course, want families and children in my neighborhood.

2:54:20

But I'm in an HOA, these are people who own their home.

2:54:23

Those concerns are not across the board, whether it's a VRBO or it is a residential home.

2:54:29

The people on either side of me are never there.

2:54:32

Why?

2:54:33

Because it's their vacation, their own private vacation home.

2:54:36

They live in Salt Lake, they come probably two to three weekends.

2:54:40

Again, those problems that they have voiced are valid, but just whether it's a VRBO or not does not fix the problem.

2:54:49

So I'm a very big uh cheerleader for fix the problem.

2:54:55

We are not going to set our rules based on worst case, sorry, we are not going to base our decisions based on worst case scenario.

2:55:00

Sorry, we are not going to base our decisions based on worst-case scenario.

2:55:03

You base your rules on worst case scenario.

2:55:05

I love the gentleman that brought up the bank.

2:55:08

Can a bank get robbed?

2:55:10

Yes.

2:55:10

So let's not keep money there.

2:55:12

That's not the solution.

2:55:14

You provide securities.

2:55:16

And I love the securities that are built in.

2:55:19

I love rules.

2:55:20

I love standards.

2:55:21

And Sherry has proved the standard.

2:55:23

The green you see on here are the people that have signed their support and written letters of support for Sherry because she has years of experience of addressing these issues and proving her worth and proving her standards.

2:55:40

And I ask you to vote today on Sherry's and her record and the people who you are saying that you are protecting their voices here, telling you that she is the gold standard.

2:55:56

Do we need standards?

2:55:57

Do we need rules?

2:55:58

Do we need proximity?

2:56:00

Probably.

2:56:01

But Sherry, as of right now, is meeting and exceeding that standard.

2:56:05

Thank you for your time.

2:56:07

Thank you, Michelle.

2:56:15

Did Mr.

2:56:16

Ken, did you say this property is already being rented without a permit?

2:56:21

That's uh that's my knowledge.

2:56:25

Well, what's the use of filing for a permit if you don't, if you can already rent it.

2:56:33

You people don't follow a logic.

2:56:36

You want approve a permit that hasn't been asked for yet, but yet when the whole community asks you to return, I know your lawyer's gonna say you're gonna get sued because everybody's got the right to have everybody, but think about it.

2:56:51

You're approving a property that hasn't even applied for a permit.

2:57:00

Duh.

2:57:04

Thank you, Doug.

2:57:05

No, I don't think this isn't recognized.

2:57:18

Yeah, William Mitchell.

2:57:19

Uh and I'm just gonna say that one, I'm a property owner in the neighborhood of Miss Hollenbeck, and I'm here to say that she's got other properties, and I've never witnessed anything but good from the clients she's had.

2:57:32

I think one, uh and first of all, I mend you guys for you know looking at each one by its merits, and you know, ignore the boot and the boo birds back there.

2:57:40

But um, you know, when we're looking at this, what Simon has said, and what's in code, and what we failed to recognize too is Airbnbs do provide services, but they it's in the code, they bring in extra rooms.

2:57:50

And if you're a family and your family of 10 people coming down from Salt Lake City because you got a softball tournament or soccer tournaments we have here, you know.

2:57:58

Do you want to have your kids split up in 10 different rooms running around a hotel?

2:58:00

Would you rather have them all together as a family where you can say, hey, we've got everybody together here, we can go down to Mesquite and you know, and and visit the uh the restaurants, we can all stay together.

2:58:08

I think that's a great thing.

2:58:10

So I don't uh and Simon, I have to say, in this first memo, you know, Simon had recommended denial on this, even though you've changed to approval tonight, and it was denying based on non-technical issues because the the home checked all the boxes, did it not, Simon, and then it was going to be denied because of what council on the previous ones.

2:58:29

Well, tonight I say that there is no non-technical issues.

2:58:32

You've had, unlike the Santa Fe home, nobody from her community, her neighborhood has come up here and said anything negative.

2:58:38

It's all been positive.

2:58:39

She has signatures from surrounding neighbors that all are in you know in agreement with this.

2:58:44

So it should be a pretty uh streamlined process, I would think, and uh do what uh you know you think is necessary, but I'm just voicing my opinion and support, and again, just you know, if it checks the boxes and that's what it's done.

2:58:58

Thank you.

2:58:58

Thank you, Bill.

2:59:05

I'm Russ Russ Westwood.

2:59:09

I live uh across the circle from one of Sherry's rental homes.

2:59:14

I'm up here at the risk of getting uh fruit and tomatoes thrown at me.

2:59:19

But uh in the five years that we've known Sherry, she's been very responsible with her rental properties, and I would like to reiterate what she mentioned, and maybe some people didn't recognize was that the people that have stayed in it, which created the violation, were not renters, they were receiving a reward for their work in her business, and they paid a hundred dollar fee to uh bind the contract with Airbnb, so they made uh made it binding.

3:00:08

We have had one group of boisterous people.

3:00:14

And we notified Sherry and she took care of it.

3:00:18

Generally, their golfers and sports teams, other than her work people that come there as a reward for their good work, and also meeting together to hold the workshops or whatever.

3:00:36

So I uh I just highly uh admire uh Sherry and her responsibility in managing these properties that she has.

3:00:47

Thank you for your time.

3:00:48

Thank you, Russ.

3:00:54

David E Vink, David Gibink.

3:00:57

So I'm looking at her ad right now for the second violation because you're only talking about one.

3:01:02

And it says that uh it sleeps, she sleeps uh 16.

3:01:08

Simon is 16 too many.

3:01:11

I mean, I is gonna ask that.

3:01:12

I mean, I think 12 was what I've heard.

3:01:15

Well, this says 16.

3:01:16

Okay.

3:01:17

But I can talk about the other properties that because she's pretty cool, she seems like a nice lady, but I think she's in some serious violation.

3:01:23

16 on this one.

3:01:24

Let's go to the let's go to this other one.

3:01:26

Uh this one sleeps 25.

3:01:29

Did we look at this one?

3:01:31

That's the cool one around the corner.

3:01:32

25.

3:01:34

Well, we can ask her again if this is just wrong, or if I'm just seeing something wrong, that's a lot, guys.

3:01:39

25 people.

3:01:40

16 here, 25.

3:01:41

Let's go to the other one.

3:01:42

This is three, right?

3:01:45

16 there.

3:01:46

Okay.

3:01:47

We got a problem.

3:01:48

This is what I came to the city with earlier today.

3:01:50

I said, you guys got to look at what's going on.

3:01:52

Do we call the cops and tell them this is what's going on?

3:01:55

Is this a cop?

3:01:56

Would this be a reason we'd call the cops?

3:01:58

Or should we call the city, or should I turn it in like we did today?

3:02:02

Are you guys gonna do anything about it?

3:02:04

Is she gonna say, oh, by the way, I'll I'll take it to 12.

3:02:06

I'll get rid of my 14 bedrooms.

3:02:09

That's where I'm at.

3:02:10

I think you guys have a right to deny this one.

3:02:12

She's got two violations, okay?

3:02:14

And and a bunch of other ones, because she's really cool.

3:02:18

I I think you guys need to step up a little bit here.

3:02:20

This one's a not a suitable offense.

3:02:22

Thank you, David.

3:02:33

My name's uh Jonathan Tavares.

3:02:35

Um, I'm a resident of Las Vegas, but I often visit Mesquite.

3:02:39

I I'm here almost every weekend.

3:02:42

Um, and I'm here to express support for Sherry.

3:02:47

Um as someone who doesn't really feel comfortable staying in the hotels here.

3:02:52

I I generally prefer a more upscale accommodation.

3:02:56

And um I rely heavily on Airbnb and Verbo.

3:03:02

And over the years at all the Airbnbs, all the verbos I've stayed at, Sherry is absolutely the gold standard.

3:03:10

She uh she meets the clients at check-in, she makes sure they understand the rules.

3:03:16

Um she's always respectful, and uh, she's got an on-site or not an on-site manager, but a local manager who is very responsive.

3:03:26

Uh, you heard from Michelle earlier, she will address any question that you have.

3:03:32

And um, one of the most um valuable aspects of her approach is the personal attention that she provides.

3:03:43

Um, she's always conscientious of her neighbors, and she always expresses makes it clear that the people who stay in her units must follow the rules.

3:04:00

I can't I can't uh recommend you guys approving it enough.

3:04:04

Uh she's absolutely the gold standard, she's the uh type of uh uh owner that you guys are looking for.

3:04:12

Thank you.

3:04:13

Thank you, John Art, mesquite resident.

3:04:28

I'm hearing a lot of contradictions here.

3:04:31

She's good at management, but yet she violates city law, the ordinance.

3:04:38

So I'm kind of going, what's going on here?

3:04:41

In the city of Mesquite, it sounds like you can do a lot of things without having to follow the rules.

3:04:47

And if you get caught later, you're still gonna get approved.

3:04:52

So I'm just kind of curious.

3:04:53

And the question about commercial versus resident, everything words like marketing, rewards, years of experience.

3:05:02

This is a business.

3:05:04

This is not a residential thing.

3:05:07

So I think on those points, you guys should deny this, especially the fact that there are two violations already against this lady before she even got approval to be able to rent.

3:05:21

I mean, would you allow that with other people and other businesses?

3:05:25

You shouldn't.

3:05:26

That's what the city is here for to protect everyone.

3:05:30

Thank you.

3:05:31

Thank you, Robin.

3:05:41

Good evening.

3:05:41

My name's Brett Hughes.

3:05:43

Um, it's kind of sad tonight to hear all these stories about people's experiences with how this works because that's never been my experience.

3:05:51

And I'm learning a lot tonight about some pretty crap experiences people have.

3:05:56

Um, but I will talk about my experience personally.

3:06:00

I live next door to Sherry, and we hear people complain about their neighbors and all these things, the terrible things that happen with their Airbnb neighbors or whatever, and I have never had one singular bad experience.

3:06:13

I've met many of the guests that stay there, and they have all been incredible.

3:06:19

Um the process that she goes through to have these people come to her home is top tier because they're all incredible baseball teams, golfers, her team.

3:06:33

Um, I know all of the neighbors in my neighborhood, and never once have I heard one singular bad thing about her or any guest that's ever stayed in her Airbnbs at all.

3:06:47

Um, I do feel for all these people that stand up here and talk about their bad experience, and it's just rowdy and all these things, and that genuinely I'm with them on that.

3:06:58

That sucks.

3:07:00

But that doesn't seem to be the case for this particular scenario that we're at right now.

3:07:06

Um, so I do, I've wrote wrote a letter for Sherry.

3:07:09

I fully support that this happens.

3:07:12

I've known her for years.

3:07:14

We even when my father died, she offered this home to us for all of my family to come stay in.

3:07:21

Even when that happened, she still sat me down and read me the rules of staying in her home.

3:07:30

She holds everybody to the same standard.

3:07:33

Um, and I fully approve of this, and I hope you guys do as well.

3:07:37

Thank you, Brett.

3:07:44

Vanessa keeping.

3:07:46

So one thing I want to make clear is I do not have a problem with Airbnb hosts or Airbnbs or short-term rentals, whatever you want to call them in Mesquite.

3:07:56

What I the biggest concern is like how close they are, especially in the non-HOA neighborhoods.

3:08:02

But particularly with this situation, I do think it's something that you need to take very seriously that there was a they this was advertised as a rental, and however it was advertised or whatever it was done, and I get the marketing aspect, that's a huge piece.

3:08:18

You need to have those reviews, those reviews generate future business.

3:08:22

So I get that, but it should have waited, regardless.

3:08:26

That's one thing.

3:08:27

I mean, and if that is the case, which you know, I'm I'm assuming that she's telling the truth with that.

3:08:34

I still think it should have waited before it was advertised.

3:08:37

And it also would be nice to see if there's some truth, like I'm sure there's a record of if it was a hundred dollars or if it was you know, four thousand dollars.

3:08:46

That would be very helpful to know.

3:08:49

Um, and then also the conditional use permit and the standards with how many people can be in a home at once.

3:08:57

That's advertised for this particular property that we're talking about, that it's a at least 20.

3:09:04

And I, you know, you can go on there and review that, it'll show 16 plus, but it actually in the description says 20 with massage services, $50 a plate for food.

3:09:16

Maybe that's allowed in the city to have that come in and be done at the house.

3:09:20

I'm not sure.

3:09:21

Like if that's allowed, then you know that's great.

3:09:23

But I also want to say I think it's great that she had support from her neighborhood.

3:09:29

Obviously, there's some truth, like that she's doing a good job if she had people that were willing to come up, but still it brings me back to my point that I'm concerned about the value of homes because that home almost sold for a million dollars.

3:09:42

It wasn't that long ago, I think it was two or three years ago that it was 400,000.

3:09:49

I mean, maybe five, I don't know.

3:09:51

You might want to check that, but that's not even from the boom from COVID from the low interest rates.

3:09:56

That directly comes because of the amount that you can rent that for.

3:10:00

So, you know, it it does have an effect on the value of homes and affordable homes for families.

3:10:08

Anything over 2500 square feet with a pull in the last couple years that have sold, Camilla Circle, you just start looking at all of them in the non-HOA neighborhoods, and almost every single one of them are in short-term rental.

3:10:21

So, particularly with this one, um, I'm definitely concerned with those two violations, and I think there's some serious work that needs to be done to improve this for all of us.

3:10:32

Thank you.

3:10:33

Thank you, Vanessa.

3:10:39

Okay, seeing no one else step forward, I'm gonna go ahead and close the public hearing.

3:10:42

Councilwoman Billy.

3:10:44

So I just need some confirmation, clarification, Mr.

3:10:48

Kim.

3:10:49

So I heard there was one violation.

3:10:52

A few people are saying there's two.

3:10:54

How many violations has incurred that you know of and it's uh I would say that uh she advertised without a license, and then she actually did the uh rental businesses, so I would say two.

3:11:15

Um I don't know about the details, but uh, she didn't she doesn't have a license right now, so I I don't know if uh more uh can be applicable because she doesn't simply have a license.

3:11:30

Okay.

3:11:30

Um so if city council uh is willing to approve this one um due to the neighbor's support, that this is uh not normal.

3:11:44

Um so so truly one one.

3:11:48

Well, you say there's one because somebody stayed there, two because she advertised for more people, but so excuse me.

3:11:59

So what I can do is uh if city council approves it, I can issue the citation to her.

3:12:06

Uh is a two by violation is a citation.

3:12:10

Um okay, no, and I would I was reading that, you know, the first one's a warning, the second one's 500, but you need to have something to concrete put that down instead of just people saying that.

3:12:25

Yes, surely I will research and uh I will uh issue the appropriate um right because they did give the clarification regarding the other ones, and people were staying there, and I I get marketing all the way around.

3:12:41

You know, the more you stay, the more people, whether it be their own marketing team, it still looks good for the house.

3:12:48

So I I get all that, but I just wanted to say right now, there's just probably one violation before this.

3:12:56

Well, whatever it is, I hope this can be a good learning experiences for her.

3:13:02

Perfect.

3:13:03

And since the community is supporting, I hope there will be no auditional violations.

3:13:09

Okay, thank you.

3:13:11

Councilman Parish.

3:13:14

Um, Simon, I'm gonna counsel you that I think you're gonna go down a slippery slope if you uh try to cite her for advertising before she has a license.

3:13:25

Um I've been in business for 30 some odd years, and I didn't get all my contractors' licenses in line for two or three months because it takes that long, but you can advertise before you get your licenses.

3:13:39

I mean, there's nothing wrong with advertising, it's committing to a contract before you have your license.

3:13:46

So as long as she doesn't commit to a contract, she has not made a violation.

3:13:50

So just be careful.

3:13:53

Councilwoman Gallow.

3:13:56

So um my one question is in reference to the comment that was made about violating the amount of people.

3:14:07

Have you have who's watching this?

3:14:10

I mean, is that in that is if you're it's on the advertisement.

3:14:15

Um, so if you look into the website, um there are numbers uh what they advertise is a marketing, so uh they wanna have more people, for example.

3:14:27

So they they uh would say we have a 25 uh the occupancies.

3:14:33

But isn't that already violating your uh but uh according to our code that the maximum other would be 12, right?

3:14:41

Uh so I don't know if they're gonna have uh 12 others and uh additional 13 uh children under 12 uh ages, but I'm just making a joke, okay.

3:15:00

So uh so there can be some uh the cases uh that uh we need to consider right now.

3:15:05

Uh what I can tell you is if city council uh opted to approve this case, I will go back to my office and carefully study and uh issue appropriate citation or warning, whatever.

3:15:22

Uh so um so I I hope again uh the applicant uh makes this uh good learning experiences and do not do that.

3:15:34

Uh normally when that happens outside when they didn't apply for the uh permit, then we issue the warning uh first, and then uh make them uh drop down that uh advertisement from the website and then apply for the uh conditional use permit or business licenses upbreakable, and then uh if they comply with it, then they get the license and they move on.

3:16:04

Uh this case uh applicant showed uh her intent to comply with the code, but uh strangely or ironically, she uh the open the business is first, uh, according to the information I have.

3:16:21

So that is a kind of confusing to me.

3:16:24

And uh I I don't know what to do with this one, but uh again, if city council is gonna lean toward to approve this item, then separately I will research and issue the appropriate um the penalties.

3:16:44

Um one of the things I do want to say um in reference to uh Sherry's rentals is that yours is the one location where we've got many, many positive letters from neighbors, uh, which is not what's been happening with the other locations.

3:17:01

Um it it's been a constant, even we even had someone who is extremely tough, changed her mind, sent the letter, and said that she would approve it um coming from previous police background.

3:17:12

So um it's a little bit different than some of the other locations, is that uh people were everyone that is either rented or a neighbor has been very, very positive about it, so it makes it a little different.

3:17:25

Councilwoman Fielding.

3:17:29

I was gonna make a motion.

3:17:30

If there's no other Do we have any other comments or questions?

3:17:34

So I I did want to clarify that.

3:17:37

If there hasn't been a citation given to her, then there's out this time no violation, correct?

3:17:43

Yes.

3:17:44

Okay, thank you for clarifying that.

3:17:46

Um so with that being said, I'd like to approve the conditional use permit, CUP 25009.

3:17:54

Councilman Innis.

3:17:55

I'll second that.

3:17:56

Okay, call for the vote.

3:18:02

Based on all the positive uh feedback, I say aye.

3:18:05

Okay, the motion passes.

3:18:07

And with that, we've reached our final public comment.

3:18:10

You have three minutes, please come forward.

3:18:20

Is that on?

3:18:21

Big Balwick, okay.

3:18:22

Sorry, I didn't hear it.

3:18:24

Uh I said they're interesting discussions, but uh what I want to put a request in maybe next budget, you could put in uh theater recliners back here for us people, people sitting out here in the audience trying to wait to the end.

3:18:36

Uh I wanted to bring up a point that I've been trying to get across to the public, and I haven't got much uh support from social media.

3:18:46

I got a lot of sites in town that say they publish things that uh interest to the community.

3:18:54

Well, I don't know if anybody, how many people realize that uh OPD is having a big vote tomorrow afternoon on a rate increase?

3:19:02

But it's not so much I'm arguing whether need a rate increase or not.

3:19:05

It's they're gonna they're they're contemplating changing the complete structure of how they bill residential in the city.

3:19:12

And what they're doing is they're I've been subject to this, and this is a typical commercial situation where they have a demand charge.

3:19:20

Okay, so basically how that works is is they measure in a window of 15 minutes or 30 minutes, they measure your PKW usage over a 30-bit period, and then they charge you so much for the max kilowatt against everything.

3:19:36

That's the commercial media.

3:19:38

We're talking about doing that for residential.

3:19:41

It looks like it's really nice.

3:19:43

You got a new power rate that's low and everything else, but wait till you get here with that demand charge.

3:19:49

Uh contacted the four the four uh Kevin knows exactly what I'm talking about.

3:19:55

If you have a commercial account, I pay more of my commercial building because I have machine tools.

3:20:00

I have three 30 ton punch presses, I have 170 ton brake, I have welders and everything going.

3:20:07

I can't control the peak.

3:20:09

And I pay more for demand charge than I use an electricity use.

3:20:13

And that's what's gonna happen because you and it's not time of day.

3:20:33

The PUC just approved the demand charge rates for NV Energy customers.

3:20:40

Big deal.

3:20:41

I mean, this is a big deal.

3:20:42

So I contacted our four represents four representatives that cover this area.

3:20:47

So I contacted our two direct ones, Mike Young and uh and Dale Rust.

3:20:54

Very that they all they responded, so did uh Aaron D Lobb, who's at large, and then I even contacted uh uh Bob Bunker from covers Bunkerville to try to make them aware of this.

3:21:05

But this is at three o'clock tomorrow morning, tomorrow afternoon in in Overton.

3:21:10

So I know it's difficult for there.

3:21:12

But this is a big deal.

3:21:13

You're gonna see massive things, massive increases, and I think I'm gonna start a side business if it passes to start it installing soft starts on air conditioners to try to keep the bills down.

3:21:24

Thank you.

3:21:25

Thanks, Dave.

3:21:28

Okay, seeing no one else come forward this meeting.

3:21:34

Next time I'm not gonna let you come.

3:21:36

Once I start saying now, see that.

3:21:40

Nick Elfansetti, Mayor, Counsel.

3:21:43

Uh, just to go back on something, we weren't, it was not a public thing, it was during the time of staff.

3:21:50

Uh, when I first moved here, I wanted to get a motorcycle endorsement, okay.

3:21:56

And so everybody said, Oh, go on DMV, and I did.

3:21:59

And DMV does offer getting an endorsement for motorcycles or that type of a vehicle, two-wheel vehicle.

3:22:08

Anything that was over, I think it was 50 horse or 50ccs.

3:22:15

50 C's, probably.

3:22:17

Yeah, right.

3:22:19

So what it recommended was going down to uh down to Cheyenne at the community college there, and what they offered was you go there on a Friday in the afternoon, and they do a classroom for the night.

3:22:35

Saturday morning, you come out and they assign you a motorcycle, and you're gonna ride it in this parking lot behind the college.

3:22:45

Well, and of course, by time Sunday night came, I actually had 35 miles on that motorcycle in the course of the time that it was done.

3:22:57

But when I came out, I actually got certified, took it to DMV, they stamped my license, and that was it.

3:23:04

It was done with.

3:23:05

So it might be something that might be offered with this training thing you're talking about with children, gear it for kids, gear it for adults.

3:23:15

Okay.

3:23:15

The other one is uh Harley Davidson offers the same program.

3:23:19

You can get certified there.

3:23:21

They do give you the endorsement paper to go to DMV.

3:23:25

You take your driver's license, hand it in, they stamp it, you're done, and it's over with.

3:23:31

So just an idea.

3:23:32

There, the one from the college is very, very set up for defense driving, meaning coming up to intersections, what to look for on intersections.

3:23:43

Did somebody see you?

3:23:45

Well, how do you know whether somebody saw you coming up to the intersection or not?

3:23:49

And I'll tell you this a little hint is the spoked wheels.

3:23:55

When you come up to an intersection, watch the spoke wheel on your right.

3:23:59

If that spoke wheel starts moving, they didn't see you, they're coming out.

3:24:03

So, just an idea, something to work with, something to help the children, make it safe, make it safe for the people that are out there riding around, and definitely you don't write on sidewalks.

3:24:15

Thank you very much for your time.

3:24:16

Thank you, Nick.

3:24:19

Jeff Reynolds, last time tonight.

3:24:23

I gotta disagree with the chief when he talked about mopeds and 12-year-olds uh violating the law for not having helmets.

3:24:34

You know, you guys have to pass a reasonable and correct ordinance or law on what you want the police to enforce.

3:24:44

The next thing they do is they educate.

3:24:48

They got SROs in the schools and every school here that can educate on what the law is and what the consequences are, but that's not enough.

3:25:01

The next thing you got to do is you got to warn the kids.

3:25:04

You gotta let them know that there is a consequence to breaking the law.

3:25:09

And you're not doing this to collect tax dollars or be the big bully.

3:25:13

You're doing this to save those lives, those kids' lives.

3:25:17

I've seen kids in car accidents that have their brains brass bashed out.

3:25:22

I've seen people with mangled in car accidents.

3:25:26

I don't care if I do piss some people off.

3:25:29

I want them to be safe.

3:25:32

And a police officer can stop a 12-year-old, he can stop an eight year old, he can stop a four-year-old that's riding his bicycle down the street that's in danger and stop them, and he can't cite a four-year-old.

3:25:44

They probably can't even cite an eight-year-old.

3:25:48

They probably can't a 12-year-old.

3:25:51

But he can get that kid's name, take them back to the parents and talk to the parents about what it is.

3:25:56

If there's an ordinance, I don't know what what age they have to be before they can be sighted.

3:26:03

And I'm not saying the first time you contact them, but if they're too young to be sighted, it was 12 years old in the state of Washington to bring them into juvenile court and they got their hands slapped.

3:26:19

But if they're if they're under that, if they're six years old and they're riding one of these little scooters, and I've seen them do it, that's running 25, 30 miles an hour down a sidewalk in front of the elementary school and almost hitting kids.

3:26:31

And if they hit a kid going that fast, they're gonna break legs and they're gonna damage that kid.

3:26:37

I've stopped them.

3:26:38

I've said you can't do that.

3:26:41

In front of this school, you gotta go slow, and that worked for about two days.

3:26:46

And then you see them come through there and they go 25-30 miles an hour and they're little kids.

3:26:53

You know, you gotta you gotta step up and if you approach these kids right, and you don't come in there like Roscoe rules, if you guys remember Joseph Wombaugh book, Roscoe Rules, those kids, you don't ruin your reputation with them.

3:27:14

And if you approach them properly and you explain to them, you know, you're fine, but you got to do something because you're gonna see some dead kids.

3:27:24

You really are.

3:27:25

And I complained about this and complained about it, and you know, SROs got to step up, but so do the regular police officers.

3:27:33

Thank you, Jack.

3:27:34

Thank you.

3:27:38

Seeing no one else coming forward, this meeting is adjourned at 8 27.

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Summary of Proceedings

Mesquite City Council Regular Meeting - November 18, 2025

The Mesquite City Council held its regular meeting on Tuesday, November 18, 2025, at 5:00 PM in the City Council Chambers. The meeting opened with an invocation, the Pledge of Allegiance, and ceremonial recognitions of EMT students and championship flag football players. The council heard public comments on e-bike safety, crossing guards, the upcoming Parade of Lights, and several concerns about vacation rentals. The consent agenda was approved unanimously. Major action items included the approval of a conditional use permit for a 10-stall DC fast EV charging station, a tentative map for 75 residential lots (Suntero Phase 4), a bid award for Horizon Boulevard and Canyon Crest Boulevard roadway improvements, and the relocation of a community piano. Three contested vacation rental conditional use permits (CUP-25-005, CUP-25-004, CUP-25-009) were all approved despite significant public opposition, with conditions including privacy fences, bunk bed removal, and enforcement of occupancy limits. The council also discussed a future moratorium on vacation rentals.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved unanimously (motion by Councilwoman Fielding, second by Councilwoman Gallo) included: approval of the October 21, 2025 Technical Review Meeting minutes and the November 18, 2025 agenda; budget transfers, amendments, bills paid, and purchase orders; monthly financials; designating vehicles as surplus; and five resolutions (R25-048–R25-051) adopting interlocal contracts with the Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada for backup power, street improvements, traffic signal software, and a mill and overlay project.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • E-bike safety and crossing guards: Multiple speakers (Mike, Ron Shackleford, Jeff Reynolds) urged the city to address unsafe riding of e-bikes, scooters, and motorcycles by children and adults, citing near misses and fatal accidents. They also criticized the removal of volunteer crossing guards and asked for better enforcement and education. Chief Tracy Fells and Councilman Wanless noted ongoing work with other cities and schools.
  • Parade of Lights: Debbie Benham announced the 11th annual Parade of Lights on December 4, 2025, with 31 entries and a food drive goal of 25 pounds per entry.
  • Vehicle damage from golf balls: Francisco Lavanos, a teacher at Mesquite Christian Academy, asked the city for guidance after golf balls from Falcon Ridge Golf Course shattered his windshield and dented his car, with no response from the golf course manager.
  • Vacation rental opposition: Residents from Desert Rose and Santa Fe Vista subdivisions (Dominic Oliveto, Sebastian Graf, Loretta Corp, Gary Plumby, David Giebink, Doug Honschell, Clark Strong, Cindy Strong, Karen Taylor, and others) spoke against the three vacation rental applications, citing noise, parking, transients, and degradation of neighborhood character. They requested denial or a moratorium.
  • Support for Hollenback vacation rental (CUP-25-009): Several neighbors and associates (Sherry Hallenbach, Michelle West, William Mitchell, Russ Westwood, Brett Hughes, Jonathan Tavares) spoke in favor, noting Sherry Hallenbach’s responsible management, positive neighbor letters, and the property’s suitability for groups like sports teams.

Discussion Items

Public Comments (non-agenda)

  • Dave Baldwood urged the council to appoint Tracy Fells as permanent police chief, arguing that waiting for the new city manager was unnecessary.
  • Nick Alfonsetti and Ron Shackleford highlighted e-bike dangers and offered to volunteer for education efforts.
  • Clinton Brooks requested wind screens for Hafen tennis courts (Director Randy Lobb responded that replacement screens cost ~$10,000 and are being evaluated).

E-bike and scooter enforcement

  • Chief Fells outlined ongoing work: a draft code with restrictions, flyers to schools, and enforcement of e-motorcycles (treated as motorcycles requiring licenses). He discouraged negative contacts with young children on scooters, emphasizing education. Councilwoman Fielding argued for accountability even for kids. City Attorney cautioned against further council discussion as it was not an agendized item.

Item 3.1 – Audit Report

  • Director of Finance Nikki Thorne stated the item was moved to the December 9, 2025 City Council agenda, so it was pulled without discussion.

Item 5.1 – CUP-25-006 (IONNA EV Charging Station)

  • Project description: 10-stall DC fast EV charging station with lit canopy at 920 W Mesquite Boulevard (CR-2 zone). Staff recommended approval. Public comment: Sammy D. questioned public benefit; Laura Andrews and Sebastian Graf supported for tourism and non-Tesla EV drivers. Applicant Tony Celeste (Hinton Burdick PLLC) confirmed the station is not Tesla-specific. Council approved unanimously (motion by Fielding, second by Gallo).

Item 5.2 – TM-25-008 (Suntero Phase 4)

  • Proposal: Subdivide 25.49 acres into 75 single-family residential lots within Anthem at Mesquite PUD. Staff noted a parcel number change. Public hearing had no comments. Council approved unanimously (motion by Gallo, second by Fielding).

Item 5.3 – Bid Award (Horizon & Canyon Crest Roadway Improvements)

  • Six bids received; lowest responsible bidder Trade West Construction at $3,055,548.28 (engineer’s estimate $4.4M). Fully funded by RTC. Council approved unanimously (motion by Gallo, second by Ennis).

Item 5.4 – MPAC Piano Relocation

  • Proposal: Use $1,000 from Charitable Trust Arts Sub-Trust to move a piano from STEAM Center to Fine Arts Center pavilion for public use. Councilwoman Fielding expressed concerns about weather and vandalism; Councilman Wanless and public commenter John Rosen supported. Council approved (motion by Ennis, second by Gallo).

Item 5.5 – CUP-25-005 (Vacation Rental at 697 Lolita Lane)

  • Staff presented detailed regulations. Applicant sought to operate a 3-bedroom home (max 8 guests). Public overwhelmingly opposed. Councilman Parrish proposed a six-foot privacy fence as condition. Approved (motion by Fielding, second by Ennis) with condition of a six-foot fence on the west side.

Item 5.6 – CUP-25-004 (Desert Mountain Vacation Rentals at 950 Santa Fe Drive)

  • Property: 2-bedroom home with casita (max 8 guests). Staff noted the applicant agreed to remove bunk beds and install a six-foot privacy fence. Public opposition was strong. Councilman Parrish and others discussed RV hookups; City Attorney noted equal protection concerns after approving the first permit. Approved (motion by Fielding, second by Gallo) with conditions: six-foot privacy fence, removal of bunk beds, and removal of RV hookups (cleanouts to be capped) and correction of marketing to not advertise RV parking.

Item 5.7 – CUP-25-009 (Hollenback Vacation Rental at 475 Parkview Drive)

  • Property: 5-bedroom, 5-bath home (max 12 guests). Staff discovered the property was listed for rent and had a review (later explained by applicant Sherry Hallenbach as a marketing reward stay by a team member). Public comment divided: neighbors supported, citing good management; others cited violations and high occupancy advertised (up to 16). Staff noted violation could be cited but recommended council decision. Council approved (motion by Fielding, second by Ennis) based on positive neighbor feedback and applicant’s promise to comply, with ongoing enforcement.

Final Public Comments

  • Dave Baldwood warned about Overton Power District’s proposed demand-based rate structure for residential customers, urging opposition.
  • Nick Alfonsetti suggested motorcycle safety training programs for e-bike riders.
  • Jeff Reynolds reiterated the need for enforcement of e-bike laws, especially for children.

Key Outcomes

  • Consent agenda approved unanimously.
  • CUP-25-006 (EV station) approved unanimously.
  • TM-25-008 (Suntero Phase 4) approved unanimously.
  • Bid award to Trade West Construction ($3,055,548.28) for roadway improvements approved unanimously.
  • MPAC piano relocation approved (vote: 4 in favor? need exact – but passed).
  • CUP-25-005 (Lolita Lane) approved with six-foot privacy fence condition (vote: passed).
  • CUP-25-004 (Santa Fe Drive) approved with conditions (fence, bunk bed removal, RV hookup removal) (vote: 3-2? Councilman Parrish and Ennis voted no? Wait, transcript says

Meeting Transcript

Good evening, everyone. And welcome to the Tuesday, November 18th, uh 2025, regular city council meeting minute. Regular City Council meeting. We're going to start with an invocation by Pastor Craig Jansen of the River Valley Bible Church. Thank you. Let's pray. Father in heaven, I am very grateful for uh the city of Musquite. And while I understand that no city goes without its unity, Lord, I'm grateful for the peacefulness of this place that we live. I'm grateful for those who keep our city clean and safe for a mayor and council that sees fit to invoke your name, your wisdom, your goodness for the city. And I ask for that wisdom tonight. That uh any decisions that would need to be made would be made in accord with uh your desires, that our city would desire to be to be and abide uh by you and and bring you honor, and we thank you for being a good and gracious God, and it is in Jesus' name I pray, amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor. And can we all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? Pledge. And to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all right. We have a few ceremonial matters matters to get out of the way. Um first of all, uh Chief Andrus, could you please come forward? Good evening, Mayor Whipple, members of the city council, members of the public. Really quick, I want to just take a few minutes and highlight our EMT basic course students that uh the City of Musquite, Musquete Fire Rescue, and uh College of Southern Nevada have been have created a partnership on. We want to thank CSN for their contributions and all they've done for this course. Darlene Montague, who uh retired on Friday, uh was a big part of this. Chantel McAllister uh is is picking up where she's left off and helping us move forward. So we want to thank Chantelles who's sitting in the back as well. Really quick, I would just ask that we uh want again recognize these EMT students as I read their name. I'd ask that they stand up and face the crowd, please. Go ahead. So as they prepare, uh this is a nine college credit course. They started in August, August 28th. They complete this course on December 11th. They've been at station three every Tuesday and Thursday night from 5 to 10 p.m. Uh to complete this course. And so uh they'll complete this course on December 11th, a few days before our next city council meeting. So, really quick, just wanted to recognize them for their outstanding effort and achievement. We've got 12 with us uh and eighteen started the course, and so uh not everyone has finished it, but we're proud of these individuals who have completed it. Really quick, Kean Abbott, uh Dominic Costa, Maggie Doyle, Fabian Escobito, uh Uriel Gonzalez, Wyatt Hafen, Marco Juezo, Kay Litzenberger, Keely Moore, Emmanuel Plancarte, Daniel Ramirez, and Misael Rodriguez. We just want to again uh recognize them for the outstanding work as they uh uh prepare to take this EMT, go into the military law enforcement. We hope they all become firefighters, but that may not uh occur. Uh there's a lot of ways and avenues that they can use this education uh moving forward, and we're proud to offer this with CSN here in Mesquite. So thank you. Uh Mayor, I would make a huge mistake if I didn't think our instructors, Huck Ton, Eric Brinkerhoff, and Kennedy Alexander down at the end. This would not be possible without you. Thank you, Chief. They gotta go to class. Get out of here, you guys. Um, Judy Cole, could you please come forward? Cole White. Sorry, Cole White. Judy.

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