Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Tuesday, June 23rd, 2026 regular city council meeting.

We are gonna start off with an invocation from Pastor Travis Stevenson with the gathering.

Thanks for being here again, Pastor.

Who is here?

Good evening, Mayor, and good evening, Mesquite.

Let's pray.

Heavenly Father, we thank you for the opportunity to gather together today and for the blessings you poured out on our city.

We're grateful for the leaders who serve our community and for all those who work to make Mesquite a great place to live, to work, and to raise a family.

We ask that you grant wisdom, discernment, and integrity to the members of this council as they make decisions that affect our community.

Help them to lead with humility, serve with compassion, and seek what's best for all.

Bless this meeting, guide these discussions, and continue to watch over our city and its people.

In Jesus' name, amen.

Thank you, Pastor.

Can I have you all rise for the pledge?

Pledge.

One nation, under God, individual and justice for all.

Okay, now we're gonna start with our opening public comment.

You have three minutes.

Well, hello, mayor and city council.

I would like to uh promote an event that is joint between the daughters of the American Revolution and the Sons of the American Revolution.

So most people don't realize the first public reading of the Declaration of Independence was on July 8th, and they go out in front of the city hall and they read it to the public.

So we are going to uh follow in tradition, and this year we are going to have a public reading of the declaration on July 8th at 9 a.m.

right out front of city council here in the amphitheater.

Excellent.

Did I forget anything?

All right.

All right, thank you, Luke.

Thanks.

Mayor, City Council, Gary Elgort.

Um, you didn't remind us that we're not supposed to talk about items on the agenda.

Oh, don't talk about items on the agenda, please.

I'm not going to.

I'm going to talk about the agenda as a whole.

Okay.

I would like to thank Councilwoman Fielding and Councilman Parish for at least returning my emails.

Um that had the courtesy, took the time, did a little homework.

And I'd like to thank you for putting a reel up that semi-explained what I wrote about.

But I would like to just express my anger, my dismay, my disgust at the staff here that puts this together.

When you put out an agenda to the public that has a vague, and I mean really vague, because it only has 50% of the story here, title, and then a cover sheet that says absolutely nothing.

Nothing.

Is it a physical impact?

Nothing.

Is it background?

Nothing.

What's going on?

Nothing.

Who wants this?

Nothing.

How is the public supposed to know whether this affects them?

You have a city council meeting where you have public comment, and who knows whether they should show up or not to voice their opinion.

You give them nothing.

It's ridiculous.

It's not how you should be running this.

I can't believe you would put out something like this with zero information, just like, well, if something about a certain address might or might not interest you, maybe you might or might not want to show up at the meeting.

Do a better job.

That's terrible.

It's an insult to everybody in this city.

Thank you, Gary.

Thanks, Gary.

Dominic Olivetto, good evening, everybody.

Get your rocks out, get ready to throw them.

I'm going to bring up short-term rentals again.

Last meeting, a gentleman came in here with a lot of credentials.

I'm sure he's much smarter than me because he has a law degree and said in Utah, zoning is not used to regulate short-term rentals.

30 seconds on Google.

Half of the cities Googled here, not large cities.

I didn't go after Salt Lake or anything, but cities like Hurricane, Washington, all of them use zoning to regulate short-term rentals.

And at least somebody would know when they bought a property here whether or not it could be a short-term rental, or like myself, thinking they moved into a single family residence and wasn't going to have any of that.

Please look into this.

There's a lot of good stuff out there.

I know everybody worked hard on coming up with all of these regulations, but a part-time uh code enforcement guy is not going to be able to go around and check to see if there's 19 people in the house, and I'm not going to go knock on somebody's door and ask them how many people are in there.

Thank you.

Thank you, Dominic.

Can you put it in?

Mayor City Council.

I'm like to rest a problem with communication with council.

On May 19th, the finance department submitted Can we get your name, sir?

Doug Honschell.

We know it, but for the record.

For the record.

They submitted a form on May 19th entitled Expenditures, Function and Activity.

There were some very large numbers on this form, and on May 20th, I sent each of you separate requests to research and explain these costs.

Mayor Whipple, I asked about treasurer for $637,000.

Councilwoman Fielding, the City Council for $374,000.

Councilman Wanless, information and technology in the amount of $1,624,000.

Councilman Parish, $726,000 for personnel.

Councilman is this was an interesting one.

So I take it there's no employees.

But there were benefits of $5,600 and a budget of $1,084,000.

Councilman Gallo, I asked you about judicial for $679,000.

I'm not a math major, but that's roughly $2,734,000 in salaries, $1,454,000 in benefits, and $2,638,000 in supplies and services.

As of today, the 23rd, I have not received communications from any of you regarding this spending.

I did receive one response to contact the CF, excuse me, the CFO.

I did attempt to contact Bryce several times with no information.

Well, save up for the agenda.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay, thanks, Doug.

Or not thank you for responding.

I actually did respond to your email.

You were one.

I think we all didn't go.

I did.

Got no answers.

There's no answers with it.

You responded with check with somebody else.

I got no answers from any of you about these expenditures.

It's a lot of money for a town this size.

Good afternoon, Mr.

Mayor and City Council members.

I'm Mary Mathis.

I'm president of the Mesquite Fine Arts Center.

And I'm here tonight to update you, give you my monthly update on what we're doing over there.

Um we're at the end of our swing of America 250.

We had a really nice reception uh last week, and Dar.

Oh, they've left.

Um that hosted it, and they did a nice, nice presentation.

Um let's see, showcased all of our um artist talents, and we'll be installing our July exhibit this Saturday called Desert Treasures.

We invite you to come in and enjoy the new exhibit starting on July 1st.

Um let's see, on the reception also is gonna be July 16th from 4 to 6th.

Our sponsor this month is gonna be Mesquite Gaming for the month of July.

Uh, we're also having a special showcase featuring uh the exhibition in the Mesa Gallery, which is gonna feature artwork from our classes.

We have a lot of classes at the gallery, and it's going to be showing artwork from the students and the instructors.

And there are like glass pottery, watercoloring, drawing, word wood burning, painting, and more.

Come and celebrate the talent going on in our community.

Also remember, we're now closed on Mondays and we'll reopen again after Labor Day.

We've also just launched a fun new program to support our scholarships and educational programs.

Our artists are being asked to give back and donate their artwork to be raffled off each month at our reception.

You can come in any time during the month and see the picture.

In fact, it's mine this next month.

So you can come in and buy raffle tickets and submit, and then the winner will be uh picked at the reception in July.

Uh they're one dollar each or six for five dollars.

Uh we've announced our July Pallet and Poor event as I always say it's a fun event, instructor led, and always a nice evening.

I remember that our second Saturday community art walk is gonna start up again on October 10th.

We'll be holding them during the day from 11 to 3, and we're in hopes that more families will attend.

Of course, we continue to hold a lot of classes at the gallery.

We invite everyone to come and participate.

Our new framing and matting and print shop are um ramping up and and having a lot of activity and exciting.

We have this big new printer, we can print huge prints, and we're hoping we're um getting our advertising out to areas in St.

George and everywhere.

Nobody has this capability like we do.

So we're hoping, and you'll also get to see a lot more big pictures of photography in the gallery.

So I've been invite you to go on the website at mesquitefineartscenter.com where you can see everything going on.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Mary.

Hi Mayor, hi City Council, Nikki Metter for the record.

Um, I use the rec center on the regular basis.

I swim laps over in the pool, and I understand that we're 20 lifeguards short.

You guys really need to consider increasing what you're paying your lifeguards.

I understand the lifeguards get $13.50 an hour, and Casa's offering $15 an hour, and they're just stealing the lifeguards.

And if we can't keep the pool open, then lap swimmers like me can't use it.

The water aerobics ladies can't use it, even the kids can't use it.

So we need to do something to make sure that we're not losing our lifeguards to the um CASA and other facilities, especially with new water park coming in.

So my other suggestion is that you offer more lifeguarding classes to try and get more lifeguards.

I know it's a hard thing, but we got to do something, right?

Thank you.

Thank you, Nikki.

Good evening, everybody.

I'm Steve, the chair of Mesquite Public Arts Commission, and I'd like to update you on a few things we have going.

Oh, it's the right way.

Um I can never remember.

Karen Miss Kibbins has been working with Ken Cox at the OASIS Wingate, and they wanted to put some wind sculptures in a circle up there, which they've completed.

And I think by the end of the month or this month, I think the end of July, they will have that completely landscaped and everything.

It looks pretty good, doesn't it?

Yeah.

Okay.

Thanks to funding from Reliance and Paul Benedict in memory of his wife Barbara and Nevada Arts Council.

We've received some grant monies, and one of the things we're doing with it is this uh mural on the Reliance building that's being done by Miles Miles Woods.

So and it's in progress, and we'll probably dedicate it, I think, on July 1st.

I know it's kind of Mayor, can you come to the dedication?

But it looked like I still had quite a ways to go.

That amazes me.

You're gonna have it done that fast.

It does.

He can do magic.

He works, I think he works on it all night.

So, with the grant money, uh, we've been working with um Jason, Chief Jason, and we've got wraps for two um OPD boxes, and this is what it looks like, America 250.

That unfortunately is not gonna make it by July 4th.

We were trying, but it's hard to get money transferred.

Okay, I'm gonna take off my MPAC hat and put my Mosquite Works hat on.

And those of you who were at the Lipson contest the other night at Eureka saw that our four fabulous teachers um they won.

They won the small group contest.

And unfortunately, well, let's see this.

Unfortunately, our kids can't come because it's an over 21 crowd.

So they're going to be doing this.

Oh, you know what?

Oh, this is it.

Sorry.

They're going to be they're going to be doing an encore on Thursday night at the Steam Center at 6 o'clock.

So if anybody wants to drop by and watch.

Thursday, it's Thursday.

It'll be pretty quick, but we've got some other entertainment lined up too.

Are you going to do something other than MC?

Not as good as this entertainment.

So we can't beat the entertainment that was there the other night.

That was really good.

They did a great job.

Yes, they did.

The other thing we got going is our four teachers.

We put um buckets to put coins in.

And on August 1st, whoever has the most coins in their bucket, they will get a bucket of ice water dumped on their head.

So and I am, you know, if you know Emma Woods, she is so shy.

I'm just seeding her bucket with so much money.

Amount of coins or amount of dollars.

The amount of dollars.

Yeah.

We're just hoping people will drop by and throw their through their spare coins in, and we would appreciate it.

And that leads us to August 1st.

We're having a back to school fair.

Um Randy's going to get us a dunk tank, and we're going to give away school supplies.

So if anybody has school supplies, um if they could bring them by, we'll be giving them out to anybody who needs them.

And then I make three minutes.

Thanks, Steve.

Thanks, everybody.

Thanks for what you do.

Okay, seeing no one else come forward, and go ahead and move on to item two, which is our consent agenda.

I'm going to make my usual announcement that my company does business with the city, so I will recuse myself from any vote on the consent agenda.

Um 2.1 consideration or approval of the Tuesday, May 26th short-term randall special count city council meeting minutes.

The Tuesday, May 12th, 2026 regular city council meeting minutes, the Tuesday, June 2nd, 2026 technical review meeting minutes, and the Tuesday, June 23rd, 2026 regular city council meeting agenda.

2.2 consideration of bills paid, notification of bills paid, purchase orders.

Councilwoman Callow.

So I have a question.

Um on uh 2.3.

Um it says here public comment discussion, but we can't have a discussion.

So can this be moved to a straight uh administrative?

Because I do have questions.

Okay, you can ask questions at the consent, right?

Yeah, I mean, if you any member of the public or the council could have that moved out of the consent agenda if that's something that's desired.

Because I understand once we because this whole thing, it's 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 all gets approved.

Right, yeah.

If it's on consensus, and then it's done.

So this I would like to have this move to administrative.

Okay, that it can be discussed.

Yep, that's appropriate.

Thank you.

So do we have any public comment on the consent agenda?

Okay, seeing none, I will ask for a motion to continue with items 2.1 and 2.2.

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you, Mayor.

I will make a motion to um accept the consent agenda 2.1 and 2.2 and move 2.3 to administrative.

Okay.

Councilwoman Gallow.

I'll say it.

Okay, call for the vote.

Galloway.

Okay, motion passes.

Item 3.1, Southern Nevada Transit Coalition quarterly reports.

They canceled.

Do we have any public comment on Southern Nevada counseling and giving us an extra few minutes of our night back?

No.

Okay.

Okay.

Um 3.2 presentation by Morph regarding the Travel Nevada Tourism Grant.

Mr.

Mayor, City Council, I am John Rosen.

I am here today representing uh the Mosquite Opportunities Regional Fund as its vice chairman.

I actually expected to have some reinforcements here with me to make this presentation, but uh I am very pleased to be able to make it on my own.

Uh a press release was really was uh posted today by Morph announcing the results of the Travel Nevada 3D grant application and the Travel Nevada Rural Marketing application uh on June 10th in the Nevada Commission on Tourism held their quarterly meeting.

Uh George Galt, Amy Bradshaw, and I were there in it person to attend that particular meeting.

Morph had submitted two different tourism-related applications for grants, one for the rural marketing grant, and the second for the Travel Nevada 3D destination development grant.

Morph was informed at that meeting that they will be see be receiving $34,174 for the rural marketing grant.

That was 100% of the application fees that we had requested.

We had been told going in that no one gets 100%, so ask for more than you want.

Uh they had did in fact fund our our full request.

Uh and $563,685 for the Travel Nevada 3D destination development grant.

Uh I am going to accept that applause on behalf of all of the people involved in this effort, all of the people on the Mesquite Opportunities Regional Fund Board, and all of the members of the Travel Nevada Steering Committee who all worked very, very hard for months to make this happen.

This is really a great win for the organization.

This press release, by the way, was posted on several of uh the uh Facebook pages, including the Mesquite Opportunities Regional Fund Facebook page, but you'll you'll find it on any of the common ones that are on uh that are here in Mesquite.

Thank you.

Thanks, John.

Oh, do we have any questions from council for John?

Okay, nope.

We have any public comment on that presentation.

Okay, seeing none, I will ask for a motion to accept the presentation.

I make a motion to accept the presentation.

Okay, Councilman Ennis, do you want to second that?

I'll second okay.

Call for the vote.

Yeah, no, sorry.

Galaway.

Okay, item 4.1 consideration or approval of resolution R26-017 for the City of Mesquite Nevada, year-end augmentation of the fiscal year 2025-2026 budget for the appropriation and the general funds and governmental funds.

Bryce?

Yeah.

Uh Mayor and Council, tonight's budget augmentation is a standard process under NRS when actual revenues or available resources are higher than what was originally estimated in the adopted budget for this current year.

Uh budget augmentations help us ensure that we can spend funds that become available after the budget is approved since higher than expected revenues, grants, or additional fund balances.

This process does not create any new revenue or raise taxes.

It simply updates our budget to reflect resources that are already available and allows us to use them for their intended purposes.

For fiscal year 2526, uh the city's increasing appropriations in several funds, including the general fund, uh street maintenance fund, airport fund, senior services fund, uh the recreation fund, more cops fund, uh, American Rescue Fund, redevelopment funds, grant administration funds, capital projects funds, and uh and approving the augmentation for the city's budget aligned with the actual revenues, ensure we remain compliant in Nevada's budget law.

So we had just we had excess revenues this year, and um based on the estimations that we're gonna end at for this year, so uh for the augmentation this year for this meeting, we increase our uh spending with those increased revenues that we didn't anticipate for this current year.

Um for those uh amounts that we have, we had about 1.1 for the general fund, uh a little over $68,000 for the street maintenance fund, uh 152 almost 153,000 for the airport, 100,000 each for senior center and recreation, uh more cops by 600,000.

Uh the American Rescue was about by 2.3 uh million, uh, and majority of this is coming from the uh redevelopment funds of uh with about 12 million dollars.

Councilman Gellan.

Thank you.

Um are we are uh what I want to know is if are we all caught up with the financials?

No.

Because the website okay, because the website is not shown.

I think it's from August of last year.

Yes.

So what are we doing about that?

I'm working on catching those out.

Oh okay.

Yes, okay.

Because I well, I know you only you're leaving soon, so I do have a concern that we get clear.

Yeah, behind when I got here, but working on catching those on.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Any other questions from council?

Okay, thanks, Bryce.

Do we have any public comment on item 4.1?

Jeff Reynolds.

Seems whenever government gets a little more money someplace, they they have to spend it.

You know, instead of putting in a bank for a rainy day or have a surplus someplace for emergencies, everybody puts in their wish list and they get new this and new desk and new whatever they get, and they don't save any money.

You come up with as long as you as long as you don't have any money left over, that's a good thing.

And I don't know, that's that's what really irritates me about any kind of government.

If you and I was involved in government too with budgets and different things for police departments, and if you don't if you don't spend it, you don't get it next year.

Why can't we have a rainy day fund spend some of this?

I don't know how much it was million dollars extra, something like that.

I don't know why we have to spend it.

You know, you listed off all these things who are wanting more money, not what they only had uh for the for the year before, but they come in some more money, so they put in their wish list to get more stuff.

I don't know.

That just kind of hurts me.

Thank you.

Thank you, Jeff.

Okay, seeing no further comment.

Um do we have a motion from the council.

Councilman Ennis.

I'll go ahead.

I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve the uh resolution R26017 for the year end augmentation of the 2526 budget.

Councilwoman Fielding, did you want to I'll second that?

Okay, call for the vote.

One more shy parachine, NSI.

Galaye.

Oh, I hit the one button, but it's yet.

Julie, did you get that?

Yeah, she's not even looking.

Um so mayor's comments and reports.

Uh the only thing I have is the theater troupe is in Indiana right now.

Uh they performed their one act today.

They said it went really, really well, the best they'd ever done.

So thanks again to all the people that contributed.

Many of you here in this room contributed for them to be able to go, they are going, having a good time and uh being very successful.

So from me from them to me to you.

Thank you.

Um Councilman Parish.

I'm done.

Thank you, Mayor.

Um I would like to take a second to address the agenda construction complaint that was filed by a city an a couple of citizens actually.

If you all put turn to your page 6.1 and 6.2.

And our city attorney will slap me on the hand if I say something wrong.

Um 6.1 says consideration.

That's a key word in this.

That means we're gonna discuss it and vote on it.

6.2 says presentation.

That means that somebody's gonna present an idea to us, and we're gonna think about it, and maybe we're gonna have a meeting or two later on it.

Um, this particular agenda item was requested by a private citizen, not a member of staff or council.

So therefore, no backup material was presented for this agenda item.

I'm sure they will present uh materials to us when the presentation is made, and then at that point, we will have two or three more meetings to decide if this is what we really want to do.

So I take offense to being insulted that we are not doing our job because we are doing our job.

We're trying to listen to every citizen.

We're not trying to hide anything, we're trying to accommodate every citizen and make this town better.

Thank you.

Thank you, councilman.

Councilwoman Gallo.

Thank you, Kevin, for that.

Um I just real quick want to let everybody know, as you know, I'm at with the animal shelter, we have a lot of kiddies over there.

I got a little sickly three year three-week old kitten today, so it's been a little hectic.

So if you are looking in the in the market for a little kitty, please stop by the shelter.

You all did a great job with what happened with the dog.

So we had I think we had 20 something, 22 kittens or something.

So they are getting adopted.

But if you're in the market, putting it putting it out there.

Thanks.

Thank you, Councilwoman.

Miss Shrupp.

Thank you, Mayor and Council.

I just wanted to give a little update with Simon Gone.

Um we did um ask Travis Anderson to step in as interim director of development services, and he agreed to do that in the interim until we um told.

Just uh kind of a quick update on that.

It does his job does close next next week, the 28th.

So in a little bit, uh we do have currently 15 applications.

So yeah.

Excellent.

Chief Andrus.

Wonderful.

Good evening, Mayor.

Uh, members of the city council, members of the public.

Just want to take a very brief moment and talk about the smoke that is in the air north of town.

As you can see in the bottom right corner, uh, we have two from mesquite proximity using very rough, rough calculations.

Uh these fires are between 40 and 60 miles north of mesquite, based on using the scale.

Uh but these are in Lincoln County.

Uh there's two fires, the Cane Springs on the E on the left side, and then the grapevine fire on the right side.

First, the Cane Springs fire on the left.

It's approximately 16,103 acres.

This information was updated by Nevada FireInfo.org at 12.06 p.m.

today.

I'm sure it's changed, but that's the those are the last statistics that I have.

It is approximately 25% contained.

There are 295 personnel working on the fire to my left.

To the right, the grapevine fire, very similar in size, 16,175 acres.

0% contained.

Uh 381 personnel are assigned to this specific fire and are working on that.

Uh so a total of 676 individuals as of 1206 p.m.

today have been assigned to these two fires north of Mesquite.

Uh please call with any questions, concerns.

This information is open to the public on Nevada Fire Info.

Be happy to help answer any questions.

Uh, there are there's a lot of fire activity in visiting with Nevada Emergency Management and the U.S.

wildfire service last Thursday in a meeting.

Uh vegetation uh saturation rates of moisture are approximately six weeks behind.

So for June 23rd today, our our vegetation in the state of Nevada is showing the first week of August.

So we're we're quite dry for our uh state and uh a little bit scary for for what's ahead of us.

So uh be happy to answer any questions.

Just wanted to uh talk about it.

And yeah, there is heavy wind expected Friday, Saturday of this week, and uh there's other fires occurring around us, but these are the two closest, and just wanted to chat for a minute.

Oh, councilman oneness.

You think I'm letting you out of here?

So the waterways coming out of these drainages.

The one coming from Melchin Down, is that muddy river?

That's correct.

So it's usually dry this time of year.

Yes.

So it's not gonna help fire at all.

No.

So this is coming as it comes together.

That wilderness area is gonna be tough to fight.

And the Indian reservation is gonna be tough to get on.

Thank God for Southwest Winds coming out of Mesquite.

Pushing it north.

Yes, it's it's it's just uh it's it's good for the city of Mesquite going that direction.

It's bad for Barkley and anything northeast of those uh fires.

But we just wanted to provide information tonight and and uh update the mayor and council and the public.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks, Chief.

Uh Travis.

Yeah, just uh quick little also in conjunction with that.

Normally we have two of the single engine air tankers that run the BLM fire base.

Right now they're running six with one helicopter.

So they're uh aggressively.

You've probably seen the the planes going like crazy.

They're in and out all day long.

Um, and so they are very, very busy.

We're very fortunate to have that BLM base up at our airport um to help with these fires this close and and that.

So wanted to piggyback just a little bit on that.

And then also uh quick little update the Hafen and Levitt Lane project.

Um I will be doing a walkthrough on that project tomorrow at 7 a.m.

to see if we can open um if we're far enough along to open Levitt um or I'm sorry, Hafen.

Levitt's already open.

Um, and if it is, then we'll be looking at opening that tomorrow.

If they still need um to finish up a couple items, it might be um a couple days.

But it is progressing very well.

The asphalt looks awesome.

Very excited about that road, and that's the that's what we got on that one.

Thank you.

Thanks, Travis.

Um, any other oh Randy.

Sorry.

Travis needs to that's not uh mayor council.

I just want to uh remind everybody about the fourth of July events going on next uh Saturday and Wednesday next July 1st.

Um I gathered up with the Veterans Center and DAR.

We're gonna start installing some flags on that roadway going up to the soccer complex.

Uh I think they're about 160.

Yeah, about 160 flags, what we is what I counted.

But I'm old, so I might be wrong.

Well, let's hold them to 160 to see how that works out.

So uh I appreciate the DA or the veterans center.

Uh we're trying to get as many youth involved as possible to come and help the veterans and the DAR to install those flags as a corridor up for the uh 4th of July celebration.

I think it'll look pretty cool.

Uh but I appreciate that, uh Bill and Lee.

So next week on uh on the fourth, so the opening ceremony is gonna be around 710.

Uh I don't remember if I've asked you or not, but are you gonna be there?

Oh, we're gonna go.

Okay, so he's gonna be there and he's gonna start us off.

Yeah, uh, I just had to make sure we do have a dunk tank that's gonna be up there just for Patty's birthday, which is tomorrow.

All right.

So anyway, uh happy birthday tomorrow if I don't see you, Patty.

I just want to remind everybody come on up.

We have some music, we have food trucks, we have uh water balloon fights to slip and slide and uh some painting faces for kids and whatnot.

But it's it's a good event.

So if you have any questions, reach out.

And for those that order the t-shirts, uh hopefully we're picking those up tomorrow.

So we should be able to get those out starting Thursday.

If you have any questions, reach out to the Rec Center.

I have words start at nine on the fourth.

Yes.

Before everyone goes next week, I think you should tell them it's the week after.

Well, it'd be the fourth, Paul.

So I want me to send you an email, they remind you.

No, I'm just gonna but it will never happen next week.

Thanks, Randy.

Um we are gonna start off in six with uh we're gonna move 2.3, we'll do that first.

So consideration or approval of the memorandum of understanding between the administrative office of the courts and the mesquite municipal court, councilwoman Gallo.

So I just had a question, and the question is um, and I don't know who the question goes to, would it be you?

Um, has it increased?

Is it the same?

None of us were here on the council because it was four years ago when the agreement was signed.

So just curious, is it gonna be the same amount of money or is it more?

I I don't know the answer.

Judge Toon brought this to Becca and I, and um when I spoke with him about it, the total cost per year was around 9,000 um based on the number of licenses that we're gonna get.

And the the agreements for four years, and Becca has certain authority to just sign things if it's under a certain dollar dollar amount for the initial four-year term, she'd have authority to sign, but there's an automatic renewal clause that potentially could kick it over that if it goes longer than five years.

So I just had told the judge, hey, we should get this in front of the council.

Um so it's not I don't know what the prior cost was.

I do know that it's around, he mentioned to me it's around 9,000 a year.

And this is the again the um software system that's used by the administrative office of the courts that are that our courts use and that the judge recommended using.

So I'm not sure the difference.

Okay, so um, because it was showing that it's 2500 and a thousand, depending on who's using it.

So do we know who's using it?

Yeah, so for the for the number of users, it was a total of 9,000 per year.

And so he he around 9,000 per year is what he told me.

And he I think he told me how many was on the 2500 and how it's on the 1,000.

But the kind of the bottom of the line for me was do I need to get this in front of council because of the dollar amount.

And it was just on the line, it was gonna kick over if we do five years, so that's why I asked it be brought here.

Okay.

So we could find that out.

Um is this something we're voting on tonight?

Yes, yeah, it would be something.

So we're voting, but we don't know the number.

Not what the prior number was.

This would be what the number is going for.

So it's nine thousand now.

Okay.

Yeah, per year, around nine thousand per year to for the uh the software system.

Thank you.

Do we have any other questions from council on that?

Okay, do we have any public comment on that?

Okay, seeing none, I'll ask for a motion.

Councilman Ennis.

I'll go ahead and make my little thing on.

I'll go ahead and make a motion for approval of the memorandum of understanding between administrative office and the courts of musquite municipal court.

Do I have a second?

I'll second.

Okay, call for the vote.

Parish, NSI.

Okay, item 6.1 consideration of a bid award for Pioneer Park Field 1 dugouts and backstop project.

Um, do you have that information, Travis?

I do.

Thank you, Mayor Council.

Um, the item before you tonight is for uh project that we've been working with the uh rec center, or I apologize, the parks and rec department because the field one at Pioneer Park, the dugouts and the backstop, it's a uh CMU block masonry block, and over the years that started to deteriorate.

We've got rebar showing it's in a bad way.

We've been working on this project for about a year and a half, getting to what we have today.

So the we put a project together, and on June 17th, public works received six sealed bids, and those bids range from 224,225 to 370,685 dollars and ninety-four cents.

Now keep in mind this uh project includes removal of the existing uh dugouts, new retain concrete retaining walls, new concrete dugouts, new concrete um backstops, fencing, concrete flat work um for that area.

Um so we actually the estimated price we had on this, our engineer's estimate was 200,000.

So we felt really pretty good about this 224,000 fallen, it's a little bit above, but prices are going have been going up lately.

Um so it is our recommendation, my recommendation uh to award the Pioneer Park Field One dugouts and backstop project to the lowest responsible and responsive bidder, which is BHC Inc.

in the amount of 224,255 dollars and 20 cents.

And I'm happy to answer any questions, Councilman Wandless.

When I make a wrong statement here, stop me, okay.

Okay.

This item was pulled off the consent agenda at technical review last Tuesday.

This item was in the budget, it was approved.

The money comes out of park funds, which can't be used for anything else.

Everything's earmarked for this.

The time has come, they're ready to do it.

That's exactly what consent agenda is.

It's when we've already approved the project before it ever comes before us, and it goes on consent agenda and we move it forward and move forward with the project.

And every one of you have the opportunity to look at the budget when we're doing it and make comments at that time.

I hope more of these go back on the consent agenda because it just compresses the time these meetings take, and it saves all of us time.

I'm sure there are going to be other discussions about this tonight.

But but this truly is what consent agenda is for.

And I hope we continue to use it that way, and we just don't put everything on the regular agenda.

So we listen to people talk over and over and over again.

And that's about all I have to say about that.

Because at some point, every one of us want to go home.

And when you go home, have a good night.

So just one great job.

One clarification on that.

This particular project is in the Capitol projects.

And so my bad.

Yeah, I didn't want anybody outside their separate for the parks funds because this is uh a little bit different, it's coming out of capital projects, but point well taken.

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you.

Travis, um thank you.

So if we budgeted, it says um public works construction estimate to be 200,000 and it's 224,000.

Do we have the 24,000?

Yes.

So in the capital projects to make up for that.

Yes.

Okay.

We do.

Thank you.

Any other questions from council?

Okay, seeing none, I'm gonna open it up for public comment.

Doesn't surprise me.

Chair Ferns, I disagree with you totally.

I think anytime you have a major expenditure, it should be brought before the public and let them know what the money is being used for.

You know, like I said last uh last time that if it was uh 500 bucks, we don't need to know about that.

But you got 220 some thousand dollars.

I think the public should know what that money is going for and have the council talk about it.

You know, it doesn't have to be long, it doesn't be and as far as being here a little bit later.

Well, that's what your job is.

That's what you're run for election.

Okay.

Uh you know, if you don't want to spend an extra 15 minutes here uh informing the public on what they want, then then you shouldn't run for re-election.

I think that uh there needs to be transparency, not that maybe it's not a good thing, maybe the money is good.

I don't know, we're not getting a bathroom with that because it's too low.

But um, you know, I think you should bring it up and let the public see it, let them hear it, let it watch it on TV.

You know, you're spending 224,000 on some dugouts.

Maybe that's the right thing to do, but at least let the public know.

If it seems to me, if you uh put it on the consent agenda, it's kind of hidden, at least from the general public.

You know, you can put in there and put a little line, put a little line in there saying whatever, it should be brought out and it should be on TV.

So you may not like that, but that's my opinion.

Thank you.

Thank you, Jeff.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, Mr.

Mayor, City Council, John Rosen for the record.

Um, I actually agree with our last speaker in the sense, and this this came up at the tech review meeting as well, in the sense that a consent agenda is a standard part of most organizations, such as this one, and the consent agenda is intended for those pieces of business for which there is no reasonable expectation of any disagreement or conflict.

That is to say, they're supposed to be automatic items grouped together to speed up a uh a meeting, and I do agree that speeding up a meeting is a very positive thing.

But if there is any item on the agenda for which there is some reasonable expectation that there may not be disagreement or there may need to be uh the public heard on that item, I would err in the side of putting it under the administrative agenda and then dealing with it as quickly as possible.

Thank you.

Thank you, John.

Dominic Olivetto, and shame on all of you.

We're not here to debate where this should be.

We're here to see put in some decent dugouts in a backstop.

Now I have ulterior motives for this.

I got grandkids that come down here every winter and play a lot of ball.

You need more baseball fields, so I don't have to drive drive to St.

George and Hurricane, especially hurricane because it's out there by the stockyards.

So let's quit arguing and worry about the kids.

Thank you.

Thanks, Dominic.

Okay, seeing no one else come forward, we're gonna go ahead and ask for a motion from council.

Councilwoman Fielding.

Thank you.

I will um make a motion to um consider and award the bid um for pioneer park dugouts.

Councilwoman Gallon?

I'll say okay.

Copy the vote.

One is yes, Parishai, NSI, Galilee.

Okay, item 6.2 presentation of possible trade of city land with privately owned land at 750 West Mesquite Boulevard.

Okay, I do I was the one that put this on.

Does it matter?

Is he going to do his presentation?

Do you want to do the presentation first?

You don't mind.

Um first off.

I guess I need to apologize.

I didn't think this was going to be a big controversial thing, and nobody was planning on a deal being done tonight.

I don't disagree with Gary that there wasn't a lot of information.

I apologize for that, but it's a pretty simple concept, and I agree with Councilman Parrish that it was just put on to talk about it.

Oh, maybe close to a year ago when the mayor and I were turned what around.

Oh I thought you meant the mic.

I'm like turn around.

Like a big cat.

Um I talked to the mayor about a year ago, he talked about um maybe the city obtaining some property on the boulevard that could be used for smaller uh businesses that are wanting to come to mesquite.

Um I had at the time I had four properties listed.

I talked to all of them about whether or not they wanted would entertain trading.

Uh the only clients that I had are the seven uh 750 West Mesquite Boulevard.

Mr.

Rick Pratt is here, he's part of the ownership of that.

Um so yeah, they were interested in entertaining doing a trade.

Now I know it's been a lot of stuff thrown around.

The trade would be appraised value for appraised value, it's not certain amount of acres, it's appraised value for appraised value.

And I think this is a win-win because, like we talked about earlier, there are businesses that are looking to come to the city of Mesquite that can't go out to the 800 some odd acres you have out there, cut off five acres and bring the infrastructure and utilities to it.

Whereas, you know, if you have a piece on the boulevard, the infrastructure is pretty much to it, and that was the whole concept behind it.

Um my clients are interested in obtaining single family property out in the new area because that's what people are looking for right now.

I have several contacts that are looking to purchase single family property in mesquite, and that was the what we decided to look at.

So basically it was trade the city for the 4.5 commercial acres for whatever the praised value of single family property in the new park would be.

And I probably should have provided a lot more information.

We're we're okay if you guys would like to table this, and I will provide a lot more information.

I know I don't disagree with Gary, but I also know he's a pain in the butt because I served on the water board with him.

And it could be 200 pages of information, and he'd still have 20 questions, but uh I'm just kind of kidding with him.

Kind of, but he's very thorough.

I appreciate that.

It came in handy on the water board.

So other than that, if you have any questions, need me to respond anything.

I'm here.

Okay, uh Councilwoman Gella.

Um, just to give a little history how this started.

Um I spoke with Mr.

Spencer Apple last year.

Um, he had been looking for property to put an indoor pickleball court um so that we can do tournaments in town, uh, so that multiple different things can be can be done as opposed to because of the heat here.

So um that's how this started.

He was leaving mesquite, and he was going to be going to Vegas because he wasn't really finding anything here.

So I spoke with the mayor and the mayor, uh, Mayor Jesse Whipple and myself.

We met with Mr.

Apple and Mrs.

Apple a couple of times, and we were having a really hard time finding a spot.

And then I guess uh the mayor was able to meet with you and found a perfect location because it's right on the boulevard across from the movie theater.

Um, so it's kind of an entertainment area, and um it'll be great for the city.

It'll clean up mesquite boulevard.

I mean, it's just so many positive.

I can't think of any reason why this would be a negative for anybody in town to not want to be able to do this.

Um so it's taken a lot of time.

Um, I will pass this a second over because uh Mr.

Apple is still, he's been traveling since the beginning of the year.

Um what's that?

So anyway, he's been traveling, he hasn't been able to get here.

Um so uh Mr.

John Rosen um is a good friend of his and is going to be stepping in to approve some of these as we make these steps.

So I don't know, John, if you'd like to get up and say oh no, hold on, John.

Yeah, I thought we have okay.

Okay, so when when they're done.

So when when they're done.

Thank you.

Um let me go and then I'll go to you, Paul.

Um pretty much since the beginning when I started running for mayor, and when I started everybody complains, you know, what are we gonna do with the boulevard?

Been hearing it for years, right?

So my thought, and the thought came before what councilwoman gallow was talking about, the thought came a long time ago, is how do we do that?

And one of the thoughts I had was we trade some of our other land, which we're not using for land that's been sitting for sale for years, some of it on the boulevard.

If we're gonna incentivize people with our land, if we have 3,000 acres, we're gonna use that 3,000 acres to incentivize people, then maybe we can take some of that, trade it for land incentivize people to become on the boulevard.

I think Mr.

Apple's got a good project.

Um that's kind of almost a separate discussion from this one.

But I think it could lead to that.

But this is in my mind.

How do I describe this best?

Is we have one thing and we're just trading it for another because maybe we can that's better for us, you know.

We have no problem selling sing or this the city has no problem selling selling single family land.

Um, but we do have a big problem selling commercial land, and so if the city can get some of that that's readily available and we can do a deal, I think it's I think it's a win-win.

Um anyway, councilman Wilness.

I think I'm gonna piss everyone in this room off right now.

First, I'm gonna agree with Rich that Gary can be a pain in the rear end.

But I I don't know, I agree with everything, and and I would like to have this tabled until we have more information.

And here's the reason why.

If Mr.

Apple wanted that property, he could buy it from the gentleman you're sitting by, and he could build his pickleball quartz, and life would be good.

So I think why would the city be involved in this?

And I've asked for the matrix to be burned how many times?

But the only thing I can think of is that we'll make this swap, which I have no qualms with.

Price for price, I'm good.

I'm fine with this having the the property on the boulevard.

But if we're gonna turn around and sell the property on the boulevard for 10 cents on the dollar, and your your builders can go out there and have 40 acres, give or take, whatever that appraisal is, and he's gonna put in a beautiful community out there, and he's gonna make millions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of dollars, ten dollars, a buck fifty.

He's gonna make money.

That's what builders do, they make money.

Who knows what it will be?

But I look at the city, and and the reason I say burn the matrix is because there are other opportunities to come in here that the council in two by twos, we can sit down and hear possible economic good for this city.

Something that goes in that's for profit, the city makes property taxes off of four and a half acres.

Let's say, I don't know, how much do you think that is an acre?

500,000?

No, 250,000, probably.

So a million dollars plus.

And if we get a hundred thousand, and we get under eight percent of property taxes off of that land, how long will it take to recoup the rest of it?

And not everyone in the city of Mesquite plays pickleball.

If I made the same argument that we will give the land to somebody to build a new golf course for 10%, and they go in and they build this golf course for the city, the same thing would happen.

The golfers in the city would be happy, just like the pickleballers in the city would be happy now.

But everyone else would be upset because we gave the land away.

And in both cases, anyone in the city of Mesquite that wanted to use the property would have to pay.

Even though it's their tax dollars that paid for the property.

So if I wanted to go and play pickleball for the first time in my life, I would have to pay a fee to go into the building.

If I wanted to go golf for the first time in my life, I would have to pay a fee to go experience that.

And the matrix makes no sense because there's no win for the city.

There are times the city wins.

If it's housing, if it's housing for workforce, elderly workforce, and you you've been big on that one.

That makes sense.

To me, the trade makes perfect sense.

And if the city gets a hundred percent of what that property's worth, I'm all for it.

But I can see no other reason the city's involved in it.

Unless it's because the city is going to lose money on it.

So I would like to have this tabled.

I would like to see us get together with everyone involved and truly figure out how the city is going to recoup anything other than joy for pickleballers in the heat.

I haven't heard anyone, Kevin.

Have you heard anyone talk about an indoor golf course?

No, nobody's talked about that.

I don't know if you pay pick play pickleball, but I know for sure you play golf.

And we play in the heat too.

So I'm struggling with this, I'm struggling with it a lot.

Not on the concept of the property switch, but what's a city gonna lose when we do that?

Thank you, Councilman.

Councilwoman Fielding.

All right, I'm not gonna be a favorite either.

So our agenda item is precisely one item: trade of city land with privately landowner.

I have heard people up here tonight talk about pickleball.

Pickleball, Spencer, Apple, want to come in later.

This is a multi-step process.

Our agenda item is one and only.

Do we want to trade property?

If I hear one more thing about an indoor pickle item or pickleball court on this item, I'm gonna blow my gasket because that's not what our agenda item is.

And it almost to me feels like two people, three people, four people have already has this in their mind that this is what it's gonna be.

I don't have any quandaries with switching land dollar for dollar.

Um, and again, once we do that and the city has property, Martin can contest.

Once the city has property, we might get three people coming in with a bid for that for that property, not just one, and that's what we're gonna have to look at.

Um, I agree with um councilman oneless with the matrix.

When it makes sense, it makes sense.

When it doesn't, and we're gonna lose money, we have a million-dollar property or a million-dollar property, and then 10 cents on the dollar.

We're losing money on a property.

I also agree that if Mr.

Apple wants that land, it is for sale.

4.53 acres, it is for sale right now.

He can come in and buy it, if that's what his intent is.

Um, I'm okay with exchanging it up there, and I think that that would be a huge asset.

And thank you, Mr.

Pratt, for being here today, and Richard for doing that presentation.

The other thing is I have to agree with uh Mr.

Parrish, I you know, about the agenda item and no backup, it burns me like no other to have an agenda item put on tech review with no backup, no backup and tech review, and still the day of city council, there's still no backup, and I know that our county our city clerk can put at things to that agenda as we go.

Um I am not a fan of putting anything on the tech review.

I almost feel like they want to be pushed through and under the radar.

So since this was put on tech review last week, I've talked to several people, Mr.

Bowler several times, Martin several times, um city manager several times about this item and how to move forward.

Um, I do know that there is and I have it in my hand that I asked for today an LOI from Mr.

Pratt and Mr.

Bowler, um, dated March to do a trade.

And now this is coming June 23rd, three months later on our agenda.

So, and now this is a big thing, but I I just have to stay on task and say this is only for the trade of city land.

If I hear one more thing about an indoor pickleball on this item, I will again blow a gasket.

That is not our agenda item.

Okay, thank you.

Councilman Parrish.

Well, I'm gonna try to be cool after those last two speeches.

Rich.

Um I think you need to get a current appraisal on the 4.5 acres.

Um, I did some research through the current county assessor.

I know it was purchased back in 2007 for 2.1 million and change.

Um my guess is it might not be worth quite that much now.

I don't know.

Um I think we need a I think we need a number.

Um, and then we need to get we need to figure out what per acre we need to ask for out of the 1500 acres.

So then you can bring in some backup material and everybody'll be happy.

And if we can get those numbers and we got something solid to talk about, I think that's where we gotta go.

So I'm sorry to say, but I don't think we're gonna make any headway today.

So uh let's get some numbers put together and then we'll discuss it from there.

Thanks, Rich.

Um I want to say, contrary to what Gary said, and more close to what you said on your first thing.

This is perfect.

Yeah, we wanted to talk about it.

We're talking about it.

We don't all have all the information, we didn't have all the information.

This is more.

Do we want to go out?

Are we even interested?

And it sounds like everybody's interested, at least interested in making a trade.

That's what we wanted to discover here.

And so I hear a lot.

Well, they didn't include us in the process, you know, they've already figured everything out, and now they're bringing it to us.

There's no transparency.

This is literally the beginning of this.

How more transparent could we be?

We brought the public in at the very beginning.

There's multiple steps and months forward of this, you know.

And I appreciate wanting all the information, but we need those appraisals, we need to figure out where, what, when, and in my mind, bringing it to everybody at the beginning, so we can start the discussion, is is the right way to go about it.

Um Adam, sorry, I usually don't put the request to speak on, I just speak up.

Um from the charter and how the land transactions work, just kind of for the benefit of the council and for the public.

This the city has done a land swap before, I think in 2021, when I was filling in before, um, handled a transaction where there was a swap, and it's done under the economic development statutes, which requires certain steps.

Martin's educated everybody on this over time, but appraisals are needed and those sorts of things.

So the way I envision this agenda item is once we hear public comment, and if there's any more discussion, there'd be some kind of motion just directing the staff what to do if we continue to entertain this, or if we uh um, you know, or if we start that process, because one of the first steps is to have a resolution that we'd want to um designate certain land for sale for under for economic development, and then it would be sold as part of a land swap.

But we don't know the exact acreage, we don't know exactly, so there are some initial things, but I the we would just needing some general guidance, what to do, where to go next to entertain this continuate or not.

So thank you, Adam.

Um, councilwoman film.

Can I just add something there?

Uh since council chimed in.

A trade is no different than a purchase, it's consideration, right?

So yeah, to say that we're trading land isn't any different than a sale.

It should be the same process, correct?

And and it is, and and I was gonna use the term consideration, but most people don't understand that term.

But yes, the consideration for the sale would be the land swap.

And that and just if you go to contracts 101 in law school, consideration is the value that's exchanged in any kind of deal.

And so that would be the purchase price would be based on the value, the the corresponding values of the property.

When the city did this once before, there was an agreement that the value for each one equaled each other because the appraisals were came in that way.

And so that that's what I would like to see.

It makes the transaction easier.

Thank you, Adam.

Councilwoman Fielding.

Um, Martin or um Ms.

Shroop, can you correct me if I'm wrong?

But we already have two appraisals on the Mesquite Boulevard, correct, Martin?

Okay, so we do already have the two appraisals on that.

Do you can I tell you?

Do you know what those are?

I can I tell them.

So um one appraisal is one million and the other one was 850,000, correct?

Right.

Correct.

Thank you.

Okay, Councilman Ennis.

I sort of agree with everybody here, but since Councilwoman Fielding wants to blow a gasket.

I just want to talk about pickleball first.

I do have to throw, wait a minute.

I have a smiley face.

You know, it's only 10 after six.

We need to be here for a little bit longer.

So let's just uh I saw a couple of people looking at their watches and going, no way, not this early.

But no, no, I my only input is uh Green with uh councilman parrish and wonless and councilwoman fielding that and and the mayor, this is this is baby steps, and so get something together, bring it back to us, talk about appraisals.

Uh, we already did we already know what some one of them are.

Uh so yeah, baby steps.

Let's just it's gonna take a while to get this process going, so I don't have a problem tabling it or making the motion to whatever Adam said, I wasn't listening, so whatever you said.

Thanks.

Councilman Gellow.

The only reason pickleball was brought up was because people wanted to know what the land was being used for.

I've had multiple people ask.

So I just wanted to put it out there.

What was one of the considerations?

So thank you.

Thank you, Councilwoman.

Um, we're gonna go ahead and open it up for public comment.

Kevin, are you getting tired of seeing me this today?

Um Mr.

Mayor, City Council, this is John Rosen for the for the record.

Um, I've listened to people talk about lack of transparency and private deals and uh not being involved early in the processing.

So what I'm going to do here with my two minutes and 38 seconds, and perhaps Mr.

Mayor, if you'll find it uh appropriate to give me a little bit more time.

Um, I want to do I want to solve that problem with this.

I want to give all of you more context into what is being considered by one of the potential buyers of the property.

Uh, we've heard that Mr.

Spencer Apple isn't interested in building an indoor pickleball court.

Uh I talked with Spencer myself because the Mesquite Opportunities Regional Fund had a slightly different desire for the property and was looking for people who might be interested in implementing that.

When we had the travel Nevada open listening sessions, we had a group of teenagers uh come in, and one of the questions that was asked was where do you guys hang out?

What do you do?

And the answer was Walmart.

Uh I I'm sorry, but that is not funny.

That's pathetic.

And several of the adults, several of the parents have said they're just not enough things for young people to do in this town.

So I spoke with Mr.

Apple after Patty made me aware of the fact that this is what he was considering, and I asked him to consider a larger project, one that I have titled is a working title as the hangout.

And that is a facility that would be available to multi-age groups and would provide safe, entertaining activities for our youth.

Uh, it's patterned after a a project that I saw, a building that I saw up in Bend, Oregon when I was there.

Uh that facility had it was a multi-story facility.

The first floor was filled with fun activities geared at elementary school children.

Second floor accommodated junior high school and high school children, third floor accommodated, heaven forbid, indoor pickleball.

But the whole point was our adult community, especially parents of young children are begging us for additional recreational facilities for our kids.

And Mr.

Apple has agreed that he would be interested in leading a group to complete and flesh out the plans and designs and specifications and all of the answers to all of the inevitable questions that will be asked of a project like that.

So this is for the community the first look, the first awareness that a concept like this is being considered.

And that's all it is is just knowledge and information that there are some people who are interested in addressing that problem, and part of addressing that problem may be involved with this particular land swap.

Thank you.

Thank you, John.

Jeff Reynolds, I haven't been here for a long time.

I'm getting my money's worth tonight.

I don't think that would I don't I don't know who would pay for something like that.

Um it's a good idea, but I don't think it would be self-sustaining to have a large property.

You know, if we swap property and get the mosque uh the boulevard, how are we gonna sell it if he can't sell it right now or doesn't hasn't been selling it?

How are we gonna sell it unless we chop it down to a hundred thousand dollars?

And then how and I agree with you.

No, I do maybe not pickleball, but pickleball.

Anyway, um, the city needs to not always be on the lower end of the of the paper uh stick here.

We give away a lot of money to residential builders, and we don't get a lot of money back on taxes.

I know, for example, several years ago I had I looked at my tax bill.

This was a number of years ago, and it was $4,000.

I got $800 went to the city of Mesquite.

The rest of it went to the school district and the county and all that, but nothing came back here.

So if we build residential houses, we don't get very much income back to the city.

Maybe people live there, but we're not gonna get paid back for that.

We're gonna lose $900,000.

You know, I thought the idea behind a lot of this was uh was to bring in a business that's gonna generate revenue sales tax and employment for our youth so they don't lose uh move out of town.

But if you get a pickleball court someplace, that's not gonna generate revenue.

I mean, they're gonna have a little bit, but it's not gonna be.

I mean, you can sell a car and generate more revenue on that.

So I don't have a problem if you do it dollar for dollar, but we don't give a we just don't give it away.

We give a lot of property away that could be used, you know.

Now commercial property is a different story if they're gonna bring jobs in and revenue, the can factory down here, that brings a lot of money into the city.

Residential people, it doesn't bring any money in.

Thank you.

Thank you, Jeff.

Dominic Olivetto again.

I'm confused.

I keep reading this, and maybe I'm not smart enough to understand it, but I thought this was just to say, does the city want to pursue thinking about trading this property?

Why would you table something that you want to think about?

I mean, if you're gonna have discussion about it, have discussion.

Don't table it.

We're not asking you, and and first of all, I agree with you, an indoor golf course is more important than a pickleball court.

But anyway, beside don't throw those things at me, Karen.

I can see you getting it in your hand.

But you know, this is the first time since I've been coming to these meetings where you've started at ground one and started to bring things forward.

And if you do make the trade, there's nothing that says you have to follow the matrix to make a sale on the land.

That's totally optional and up to you people.

And if somebody's willing to do this trade and put something in there where you make some money, which is more than you're gonna make on land when you give it to a developer out there, that's a win-win for the city because sales tax and all that, we don't get much of that.

That's all for Las Vegas.

That's not for us.

Thank you.

Thanks, Dominic.

Excuse me a second.

So uh I thought it was interesting that I I got a lot of feedback on the fact that everybody was completely transparent, but we've had a letter of intent since March of 2000 or whatever, this year, March of this year, and that wasn't in the backup.

And apparently at least two people have been talking about possible pickleball court, and that wasn't in the backup.

So apparently there's a lot of discussion that's happened here, maybe only through a few people, maybe through a bunch of people.

We even have appraisals on the property that's not in the backup.

So there was information available that could have been in this package, but there was nothing.

Secondly, I think probably a great idea to do.

I think I would rather see a Trader Joe's in an olive garden than a indoor pickleball place.

Um you might want to put out a survey.

Also, I think the hangout's an excellent idea.

Uh I actually have a friend who's a very good economical person or economy person, and he he did some math on an indoor pickable place and said it's guaranteed to fail.

So he could build it and then he could sell the property for the profit after we give it to him for nothing.

But uh I think all in all it's it's the right thing to do, or at least to pursue and to see what it works out to for the city.

But but don't tell me there was nothing there to be said because way too much came up in discussion today from way too many people that it could have been in a packet.

Thanks, Gary.

Okay, seeing no one else come forward, I'm gonna turn it back over to council.

Councilman Wandless.

I'm gonna make a motion if no one has anything to say.

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get hit after this.

My motion is to table this for three weeks.

Next Tuesday, there's not a meeting.

That gives us two weeks to get the even if it's the two of you in a room, and figure out what this is.

Get appraisals, Martin on the raw property, so we know what we're trading for.

Let's have an understanding of what we're doing.

This the reason we're doing this.

I have no problems with trading property like values.

None.

But I want to make sure that the city doesn't get the shaft again.

And then we come back and we pick up this same discussion in front of the same people, but they actually have answers because the detail will tell them what we're going to be doing, what we've figured out in those two weeks before we go to tech review.

I don't know how hard that can be.

Um do you want to make a motion to direct staff to do that?

I thought that's what I was doing.

Well, but when you say table it, it kind of yeah, okay.

We're gonna table it.

Staff's gonna get an appraisal on raw property, so we know what that trade is.

How many acres for 4.53?

We're gonna look at everything, and we're gonna come back three weeks from now.

We're gonna just start over.

We're not saying no.

Again, uh I don't mind I I'm for trading the property.

I just don't want to see the city lose money.

That's that's all.

One item.

So yeah, just just get the preliminary things out of the way.

We come back, and we'll we decide from there.

We have this same discussion over with backup this time, and people aren't upset that they don't know what the heck we're doing because we don't either.

And we go from there.

Is that fair, Mayor?

I you good with that, Adam?

Yeah, uh, Councilman Parrish, I think, wants to say something.

Councilman Parrish.

Um first off, I think Bill no Bill, you're you're in front of me.

I'm sorry.

Um I was just gonna heard my wife.

Yeah, that that wasn't a motion.

I hate to say it, Paul, and I appreciate all your comments, but we need to accept or decline this presentation, and then we need to direct staff to move forward for our July, whatever date that is meeting.

That's the same as tabling it, Paul.

You just said those are the dates that you wanted to use.

It's August 14th, August July.

You make the motion.

I will.

July.

I'll make a motion to accept the presentation as presented, and direct staff to get appraisals.

Umers, whatever, and present back to council on July August 14th.

No, July 14th.

The next meeting is July.

July 4.

Okay, never mind.

Uh are you drunk?

All right, hold on.

July 14th.

Okay, Councilman Wanless.

Are you are you uh okay with Councilman Parrish making that motion?

Perfectly fine.

Okay.

Uh Councilman Ennis, did you want to I'll second whatever I have?

Okay.

You get or do you want to make the more call recording rules we can have?

Do I have to say I just need clarification one more time?

Are we tabling it or are you making a motion to direct staff?

Well, I made a motion to accept the presentation, and then we are going to direct staff to proceed with the necessary documents and backup material that we need to start making some decisions on July 14th.

On July 14th, with a second.

John, you and I are going to teach these folks how to do uh Robert's rules here pretty soon.

Okay.

Thanks, Joe.

You might have to give me a few lessons too.

Umis.

Was there a clear second?

I did.

I did the second.

Okay.

Okay, call for the vote.

NSI.

Okay.

Item 7.1, final public comment.

If you have public comment, please come forward.

Okay, seeing none, this meeting is adjourned.