Councilwoman Fielding as soon as you're ready.

And I would like to before I get going, announce that uh Councilman Parrish is excused, and he did let me know he was gonna be big on.

So let's please excuse him.

And I'm sorry I forgot to do that at tech.

Um, but yeah, he he let us know ahead of time.

Um also the city manager is stuck in traffic, and so she wasn't able to get called in.

So um opening public comment for our the Tuesday, June 7th, 2026.

Mosquite really redevelopment agency meeting.

Okay, seeing none, I'm gonna move on to 2.1s.

It's consideration or approval of the Tuesday, July 7th, 2026 redevelopment agency agenda.

Do we have a public comment on that?

Any questions from the board?

If not, can I get a motion?

Council uh board member Fielding.

Thank you, Chair.

Um, I will make a motion to accept the consent agenda.

Do I have a second?

I'll suck it.

Okay, call for the vote.

One, yes.

And I'm sorry.

Galloway.

Okay, motion passes.

Item 3.1 discussion and possible approval of redevelopment agency funding of approximately 50,000 for architectural and design services associated with the renovation and remodeling of the relief society house.

Mr.

Anderson.

Thank you, Chair, board members.

Um, the item before you today is as you remember, I was tasked with the renovation of the relief society house and the rock house.

Um as we looked at that, not only so we originally were looking at that being in phases, but it was uh with the city council's purview um to do that as one face.

And so to be able to bid that to where I have an apples to apples bid, I need to have um an architect come in and help me to generate plans that contractors can come and to bid this.

So this is simply a ballpark number that I was requesting the RDA board to approve, and then I can go and procure uh an architectural service for this.

So this is in no means the actual cost.

I'll bring the actual cost.

I mostly wanted to bring this to your attention to make sure I'm going down the right path of what is desired to bring on an architect to help because I need structural elements, the inside, the exterior, all of those um, so I can get those apples to apples bid.

So just to clarify, this 50,000 is in no means a contract that has already been worked out with an architect.

This is simply a ballpark number.

Once that um contract is received, I will bring that back to the RDA board for approval of that.

But this is more to get the ball rolling so that I can get them working on plans to redo the um relief society and the rock house.

And I'm happy to answer any questions.

Okay, board member wonless.

So this just says the release society house, but you're gonna be doing the rock house at the same time.

Well, so that's the kind of as we worked on this.

I think if I had an architect working on both of these elements, I don't know when the the council action was strictly with the relief society.

So that's also um I may ask for that uh we can do the plans together and then bring that or ask for a price separately, and then uh or combination with the architect, and then I could break those plans into two separate um projects, one for the relief society house, one for the rock house, because they they really are separate.

Um when you're looking at the elements that will go into the rock house, are a little bit different than what you're gonna be doing on the relief society house.

So this is kind of I'm asking for a little bit of direction in some ways, but just letting you know this is the path that I'm going down to get this taken care of.

So do you think it would be less expensive, the same more expensive if you had one architect come in, visit both at the same time, they're right next to each other, and do the plans for both at the same time rather than just do one and then have to come back and start all over and do it a second.

It would obviously whenever you're looking at these, even on small projects, because you still have upfront things that are all always included.

And so if I was able to do both of these, since we're gonna be doing these, you know, at least the relief society all at one time, it makes sense to have them look at the rock house as well, make that an entire one project, and then you know, we can do that.

It will save us money on having an architect do plans for both of these together rather than two plan sets separately.

I don't know how the rest of the council would feel, but I think it would make sense to have the architecture and the plants done on both of them, even if the build you do them separately.

So you do the reef side of the house first and build it out separately and then the rock house, but you'd have what you needed to go to bid on both of them at the same time.

And I think it would save the city some money.

And I can have them it it does save if they're working on both of those at the same time, and I can have them generate as two.

We did that with the justice facility when they were doing the evidence building and then the renovations.

So it was basically they were working on two parts of that, and then we combine those into one, but like through theoretically, could have worked the evidence building and then the justice facility after.

So it gives us some flexibility um to be able to do that.

But I do agree that if we're gonna do both of them, having an architect do both of those at the same time is going to save me money in the long run with that.

Board member Fielding.

Thank you, board chair.

So um, if we do both the relief society house and the rock house, are you gonna need more than $50,000?

Well, this is what I envision the ballpark when we did the animal shelter um for that new deal.

I believe they were right around 60,000.

There's nearly the amount that's going into this.

Um, you know, because we were doing all the electrical systems, the water.

Um, so these I believe that's a good number that we can do for both of these.

Okay.

Um, if it, but like I said, if even if it's less or more, I would definitely have to bring that back to the board for approval going up or down.

But that's what I anticipated if we're looking at these.

Um based off of this includes both of them, as um board chair one less stated.

I mean, to do both, and it makes sense to do both.

All right, thank you.

Now, I'm sorry, uh, one question.

I wasn't anticipating like landscaping architecture into this.

Um, if you're looking, this was just simply the structural, and then as we go back, you know, we're looking at that, it would probably have a landscape element because there's a lot of great ideas that a lot of the historical society has coming forward with those elements.

And so just to be clear, this would be simply just the structures, nothing with landscape architecture or anything like that.

You're welcome.

Any other questions from the board?

Okay, if not, we'll open it up for public comment.

I was up first, George.

Hi there.

My name is Bill.

Bill Mitchell.

Um, so a couple questions here.

One in my brief review of the uh RDA.

One, I'm pretty sure that says that something this type of submission, the most you can get is $30,000.

And two, it says you have to have a.

Uh Bill, would you talk into the mic there?

They can't hear you in the back.

So it says you can only request up to $30,000 for architectural uh stuff.

That's clearly what it would it says in there, and it says you have to have two bids too.

So Travis really should be coming to you guys with architectural bids already, and you know, then talking to you about money.

Secondly, you know, anybody else would have to go out and spend this money first and then come to you.

Obviously, the city gets a gets a pass on that.

So I think he needs to go back because there isn't there shouldn't be $50,000 available there.

It should only be 30,000.

If that's the case, then I should be able to get 50,000.

And going off Travis's record, if we remember on the Justice Department, which he brought up in the in the redo at the uh cop shop, they paid an architect $300,000 just to monitor the thing.

So I'm already concerned that the costs are gonna get way out of control on this.

And I'd like to see what the overall benefit is.

I know it's you know, historical society snap, but what is the benefit?

What's the ongoing cost gonna be?

Because there's gonna be yearly maintenance on that, yearly upkeep.

Do we have we looked at all that what the final numbers are on this?

I mean, it could be a uh, you know, just a juggernaut of expenses rolling in one after the other.

So that's where my problem lies based on what the RDA says the amount of money available is more than he's already requesting.

Thanks, Bill.

Good afternoon, George Galt.

Um here with my tourism hat on.

As you know, we uh we envision when we get the tourism money the we're gonna try to center some things there with the um what's the what's the town square park is kind of cat cornered from the rock house, and I was uh coming in thinking, gosh, I hope Travis is gonna take advantage of one guy being 10 feet away from the other project and put them all together, and sounds like you're ahead of the deal on that.

Um I do have one question, and that is the architects particularly qualified in historical properties or materials or any of that kind of thing.

Is that a do you see that as a concern?

So to be honest, I haven't reached out to any architects as of yet.

Um the relief society house is a basic stick film or uh stick built, it's got lathin plaster on the walls.

So um the age of that would throw that into there.

The rock house, we have talked to contractors, and there's elements of that.

Um so I do believe that the architects that I'm gonna be reaching out to um have been the architects that have demonstrated uh the work that they've done in Mesquite already on these.

And yeah, I I think that that is not a uh a worry that I had, honestly.

Um, but it's one that would be asked on when we're uh establishing these.

Um also when you're looking at there's an NRS statute for professional services which are considered engineering and um architectural services, and so you don't go off a price when you're getting these architect or engineering services, you go off of qualifications, and that's how we establish the architect for the fire station for the um justice facility and those.

And so you cannot negotiate the you're not getting proposals, you're getting statements of qualification.

So as I'm picking these, um, we'll be reaching out to these different firms going through the qualification process, and once you pick, then you start the negotiation of all right, what would your what your price now?

If you can't come to that, then you go to the next qualified.

So I'd wanted to bring that up as as well.

On these, this at least knowing that the board um would approve this action, um, allows me to go and start the qualification process with the architects.

But great question, and that would be one of them uh that we would have on there is what is your historical society renovation experience, you know, and and what kind of um going through SHIPO and all of that, making sure that everything, because we don't want to destroy any of these elements, um, but they're even with the old gymnasium, as we're getting grants on that stuff, um, trying to find a lot of the time they asked for the exact uh materials to be used.

Um before Simon left, he had reached out to uh the historical preservation, and they said on these particular buildings, we don't have to try to match the exact materials, we just need to match the elements.

So if it was a wood door, we're putting a wood door back instead of a metal door.

If it was glass plane, you know, we we try to match that stuff.

So on these, that absolutely will be what we're asking the architect to do and and to do that.

So there is an element with the relief society house, it had original cedar shakes shingles on there.

Um we've researched that, and those are very expensive.

So there is an element, the existing roof is a metal roof.

We'd like to keep that um because that's what um would last longer for these.

So there are some elements that unless we wanted to pay a lot of money on these uh to make it exactly like it was before.

Um that's honestly, as we get going through the architecture, I want to bring in some of the historical society to help me make these decisions on what we're looking at and and what the council would like as well, so that we're making it so that we're we're getting what we wanted, right?

And so that's yeah.

Long answer, your question was would I have an architect?

Yes, we'll want to ask them it what experience they have on historical sites.

Uh that I you know, I at this point I'm certainly supportive of this because I think it it can be a focal point for starting the tourism visit, and uh certainly the council's already engaged in trying to get this thing off the ground.

Uh that I you know, I at this point I'm certainly supportive of this because I think it it can be a focal point for starting a tourism visit, and uh certainly the council's already engaged in trying to get this thing off the ground, and it's uh it's moving a little slowly, but yeah, and and this will definitely help things speed up as um we have been very overwhelmed with projects as of late.

We've got into a good spot.

Um, but I'll be honest, with um my workload, I don't have any time to devote to these, and so I need help on bringing an architect on, and that that's the truth of the matter.

Yeah, you all might think about a name for this little area.

There's a similar area in St.

George they call settler square or something like that.

I've seen there's all sorts of typical names like that, but this is going to be a little area that will be a nice focal point for our our tourism history and so on.

So when we get to there, we'll come back and see what names you got.

Thanks.

Thanks, George.

We're on Chekhov Ford.

Um, a couple questions.

Does the city own that property, or is it actually the church that owns that?

No, it's city property.

It's city property.

Okay.

Um, have we reached out to the church?

Because like I I fully supported this when that presentation came out and reached out to the church because they have so much experience with uh um Nauvoo in the restoration of Navu.

So I I mean, are we trying to reinvent the wheel, or maybe we should talk to the church and find out if they have those sources that we can use and probably help us out a little bit in in the restoration?

Because I fully support the restoration.

I really want to see this happen.

I think it's a great idea.

So, but I I think you know, let's let's go off of what maybe they already know and maybe reach out to them and see what they do, because like I say, Nauvoo is awesome.

It's uh they did a great job.

So thank you.

So with that, great question.

Um the the church has a huge engineering and architectural, you know, a lot of their stuff that they're doing now, they have some of those, but they were um large historical sites for the church.

This element is more of a regional um for this.

It was the Relief Society house.

It had the first uh baptismal font in a relief society, and so that gives it that historical nature.

But to be quite honest, it doesn't rank anywhere in close nature to the historical nature of anything that the church is interested in looking.

This is a regional area on this.

Um they tried to uh Adam's father David, he shares a story of when the original church that um was constructed here on the boulevard, he fought to have that renovated, and it was in their opinion, it's faster and better for us to tear this one down and build another one.

You're throwing money after bad in that aspect because they still wanted to use it.

This one's a little different because we're going to be using that for you know, museum or you know areas, so there's looking at, but to answer your question, yes, there has been um contacts made.

Or is the church looking to help look at that?

And quite honestly, this is not a big enough fish for them to get thrown into.

So this is going to be an element that we as a community feel is a large enough deal that we want to preserve this and have the element of the tourism um with that.

So, yeah, that's where we're at with those.

Doug Hanshaw, you know, I'm a numbers guy, but uh does the city have any idea what this is gonna cost?

You're at $50,000 already, and you haven't done anything.

Is there a cap on what this is gonna cost?

Are you just gonna keep approving more and more and more and more because it's a tourist attraction?

I I think the thought, and correct me if I'm wrong, Travis, is this is the step where we find all that out.

Um the architect looks at it, says it's gonna, you know, this is what needs to be done.

We send out the bids, and if the bids are something we feel like we can afford, then we do it.

And if it's so astronomical, then I guess we don't.

I guess that's the decision the council have to make.

But this step should determine all those future steps, whether they're reasonable or not.

If the engineer comes back and says it's gonna be four million dollars to renovate a house or rocks, right?

Do the city council think that's a wise investment.

I can't speak for the city council, but I I wouldn't think so.

But you know, but you know, there's a cutoff line for everything.

We just don't know what it is yet.

It won't be four million.

Well, I I was hoping you would have an estimate of you know the condition the building's in.

So that you know what you want to do, right?

What would it cost?

It's like remodeling a house.

Exactly.

How much do you want?

So the that is just as the mayor is saying, along with this, the architect will give us their estimate of what it's going to cost.

And they've been actually really pretty close on the last projects that we've done on going through a full schedule of values on the renovations of these.

Um, and so based off of what they give us once these plans are finalized.

Um, then we can make that decision and go from there.

Correct.

But no one's willing to bring up putting a cap on the spending, I take it.

Well, right now the cap is 50,000.

I mean a cap to finish the project.

Right.

Well, we wouldn't be doing any new stuff until after those plans, and we look at what that architect is saying the value of that cost would be.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um, any more public comment?

Okay, if not, uh council error's first, board member one.

Since we're gonna do these both at the same time, let's put 25,000 in for one and 25,000 in for the other and approve these funds.

To do the architecture and get everything you done need on both houses.

So total of 50,000.

Okay, but it won't.

I don't believe the cost will be equal in that magnitude.

So does that matter?

No, okay, not to me.

Uh full disclosure again.

My father has come and uh supported this, so I'm disclosing that my father supports this before I so I'm not a pining on whether what you should do or how you should do it, but I'd recommend sticking with the what's on the agenda item rather than change just for open meeting law purposes.

So if you want to approve this as presented, then I think that would be the best route.

Then approve is presented for fifty thousand dollars for architectural board member Fielding.

Did you I'll second that okay?

Call for the vote.

Okay, the motion passes.

Um, and we come to our final public comment.

So I just want to go again and ask the council go on record here that it's okay, I guess, for the city to uh go against the rules that you guys wrote right here, where it says city development impact fees, 30,000 dollars is all you can get and says architectural reviews.

So it's okay for you guys to just go blow right by the rules that that you made.

These are your rules.

RDA, you guys wrote them up.

Here it is for everybody to go and see print off your your your website, but you're saying they don't apply to projects that the city's doing.

Is that correct?

Can I get an answer?

Is that correct?

Because you guys just you just went against contradicted and broke broke the law.

You just broke what you wrote down for anybody else.

So is that true?

You guys can do whatever you want.

Because I'll tell you, as a business owner, the RDA, you guys do a shitty job.

Because you know, uh of what what was it?

The last round there's like 12 million dollars that were in there, only a million dollars got given to business owners.

The program needs to reach out to business owners better, kind of like the COVID one where you did.

You got 21 million dollars, and nobody knew about that.

Nobody knew about being able to come in and get money for for back rent, people couldn't pay.

You guys do a terrible job promoting this, getting it to the business owners.

The few that have it, I've heard all the complaints.

It's a it's a battle with Martin, it's a battle with the city to even get things done.

That's why you got the playoff sign that's gonna be there for 20 years because Jeff, you know, you got it gets battled all the time.

So he just gave up.

So I'm telling you, you know, something's got to change, and you know, I hope Adam, you start looking into this because you know, you guys are just breaking the law right now, so I don't know what's next.

Thanks, Bill.

All right, this meeting is adjourned.