Again, I'm Alderperson Jo Castus Samaripa, chairperson of the committee, and I'm joined in the following order.

Um to my left by Alderman Peter Bergelis and Alderman Alex Brauer.

Um to my right, I see uh Alderman Um DeAndre Jackson is is just taking his seat.

Good morning, Alderman Jackson.

Vice Chair Alderwoman Andrea Pratt will be joining us very shortly.

Um of course also joined by our staff assistant Yadina Melendez.

Um and we have from MPD um Sergeant Wadalupe Vasquez uh uh Velasquez, I'm sorry, Sergeant, and um Assistant City Attorney Travis Gresham and from Licensed Division, we're joined by our licensed division manager this morning, Mr.

Jim Cooney.

Good morning.

Okay, good morning.

So the only item on the agenda today is file number 251862862, a motion relating to the recommendations of the licenses committee relating to licenses, and the first application on our 9 a.m.

agenda is Eric Alvarado, Class D operator's license application.

Good morning, Eric.

Good morning.

Um all right, if we can get everybody sworn in that needs to be sworn in as well as well as you, Mr.

Alvarado, if you'll raise your right hand.

The assignment from the dependence of penalty burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true, the whole truth and if you look at the truth?

Yes.

Yes, thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

And uh Mr.

Alvarado, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

Um and if you'll state your name and address for the record.

Eric Alvarado, adjust 3656A, South 60th Street in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 5320.

Thank you.

Um, all right, Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

On 8617, the applicant was charged in Milwaukee County with disorderly conduct, domestic abuse.

Uh he was found guilty, 12 months probation on 823-17.

The applicant was charged in Foundilla County with two counts of possession with intent THC possession of narcotic drugs.

Polonies carry concealed weapon resisting or obstructing an officer in bail jumping misdemeanors.

Uh he was found guilty.

Uh the Session of Marijuana was amended to a misdemeanor charge.

One year probation for that.

On 71623, the applicant was arrested for operating while intoxicated.

Second, on 831 23, he was convicted and his driver's license was revoked for way one year plus ten days.

Thank you.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Um pretty much everything is well learned hard learning the hard way when I grew up growing up, didn't choose the right path.

Um that I have two kids, my oldest is nine, and I have uh six-month-year-old daughter daughter, which is big change for me.

That's when I really literally opened my eyes and hey, I have to do something differently so they can grow up different in this society that we live in.

Wasn't I wish I had the right somewhere where someone who lead me the right path and maybe would have been way different.

Well, thank you, and congratulations on the baby girl.

Thank you.

Questions from committee members on the police report?

I'm sure.

Alderman Bergelis.

Um so you're convicted of um OWI.

You want a bartender's license.

Um, do you see a conflict or uh uh any risk of you um being in that kind of environment?

No, I I actually I worked there as a bouncer.

I have to be 100% sober.

I've been doing it for four years.

Actually, the last two years I had a WI OWI again, and I was going through some breakups, but drinking is literally not a cup of tea for me.

Um you don't drink anymore.

No, I'm actually no, I'm actually trying to like um going through assessments as well.

Right right now, I'm going through assessments for impact, so I can give my uh the license back.

When I want to add my license, I was a truck driver, so that will that destroyed everything I had coming.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Um further questions from committee.

Otherwise, I think we can entertain a motion.

I'll move approval.

All right, Alderman Peter Bergelis moves approval.

Any discussion?

Any objection?

Hearing unso ordered.

Good luck to you, Eric.

Thank you.

All right.

On our next 9 a.m.

agenda, we have Carly Barrent.

Is Carly Barent or Barent present?

Carly Barrent.

All right.

Is this the first time non-appearance?

It is.

So Alder Member Gallus wants to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing all objections so ordered.

We'll move on to our 9 05 a.m.

agenda.

Monique S.

Grual, Class C operator's license for no application.

Is Monique S.

Cruel present?

Hello, Miss, yes, I'm here online.

All right.

Good morning.

Good morning, ma'am.

If you will raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

So burdue of the state of Wisconsin that the testament about the give.

Is it true the whole truth?

And if you look at the truth.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

And if you'll state your name and address for the record, my name is Monique S.

Greywall.

My address is 7141 North 43rd Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53209.

Thank you.

All right, Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

On 624-25, the applicant was charged in Milwaukee County with obsession with intent, deliver THC.

Vehicle operator flea elude officer in second degree recklessly endangering safety.

All felonies.

He was found guilty of the vehicle operator flea elude officer.

The applicant is currently on probation for item one and will notification to Wisconsin Department of Corrections on 21026 requesting they provide information to a licensed division regarding the probation parole status and the end date of the status.

All right.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

We get it back.

Mr.

Grual?

Uh yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am.

So ma'am, uh be honest.

So during the summer, I personally was not in, I would say the best mental space.

I had a lot going on personally.

Uh and I just really wasn't where I needed to be.

Um, and then specifically for the charge.

Um I would say nothing in this case specifically.

Uh I'm going looking for the bartender license.

Nothing um relates to alcohol.

The THC charge was uh dropped by the state as you know there was no grounds for it to be a um possession with intent case of strictly obsession.

Um and I really think about it every single day, and I regret it as the biggest uh worst decision of my life, and I really think that it's not a uh testament to our character is just uh the weakest moment in my life.

Um I I've I've had a bartender license since I was 18.

I also currently go to UWM.

I'm in my third year, and um I've been working at the same license store for uh since I got my license, so two years and a couple months now.

Chair?

Yes, Mr.

Cooney.

Thank you.

I just wanted to add we we did just receive uh word from the DOC that licensure would not be in violation.

The letter is not in your file, but um I can add it, and we do have confirmation it's not in violation of the probation.

Okay.

Thank you.

Madam Chair.

Yeah, uh, yes, attorney Gresham.

Did uh this is for licensing.

Did the applicant get the notice as well?

Is it sent to both parties or just us?

The applicant received the police report.

The applicant did not would not receive the letter from the DOC.

Um it's a I okay.

I mean it benefits him, didn't that?

It does, but at the same yeah, it it does.

It is a benefits him.

So um can we discuss this?

Uh yeah, you can take it into evidence.

I would I would say that it's it's you know, it's one of those situations where I think it's again to your point helpful to the applicant, so um it kind of removes the roadblock of the DOC or of the DOC's determination.

Um that it wasn't received by both parties again makes it a little bit um, you know, subject to at least some objection, but again, it's to his benefit, so you know it's it's kind of we look at it helpfully, I guess.

Okay, we could look at it hopefully.

Um so you were driving recklessly in our community where we're having such an issue with folks driving recklessly yes, ma'am.

The the main thing they were saying was um there was a car pulled off to the right side, and that I went around the car, which caused me to cut off into the uh other lane for I think it was like two or three seconds.

Yeah, so that's the uh main reason for the for the reckless track, man.

Did you hurt anyone?

It might be no ma'am, no ma'am.

Um I didn't crash anything.

Uh I pulled into uh like a driveway.

I stopped myself and then I got out of the car and then they arrested me.

This is good.

I don't know which one.

Uh Alderman Gallus.

Um so this incident happened when you were 19, you're currently 20.

Yes, sir.

Um I'm I'm surprised that you can get a bartending license when you're not 21.

I see that there's a a risk here.

Maybe you've learned your lesson.

Um, but you're still on probation.

I see no reason why the city of Milwaukee should trust.

Given your limited history that this is an appropriate decision today.

So I will unfortunately not be able to support it.

All right.

Well, thank you, uh, Alderman Burgellis.

Further questions from committee members on the police report at this time.

All right.

I certainly note um Alderman Burgellis' objection, but we could still entertain a motion.

Move to approval.

Uh Alderman Alex Brower has moved for approval.

I'll object.

All right.

Um so I'll just ask first any discussion.

Any further discussion?

I note again Aldermember Gallis' objection.

Any further objection at this time?

I'll object.

All right.

Um Alderman DeAndre Jackson objects.

Do we have to do a roll call now?

I think it'd be preferable too.

All right.

Given the multiple objections, we're gonna take it to a roll call.

So the motion is for approval.

Alderman Jackson?

Who made the motion?

Uh the motion is approval and you you object, so we'll just say no.

If you objected, you'll say no.

Oh, okay.

No.

Alderman Brower?

Aye.

Alderman Burgellis.

No.

Alderwoman Pratt.

Aye.

Alderwoman Samaripa.

Aye.

The motion passes three to two.

Motion passes three to two.

All right.

Thank you, Mr.

Grual, and good luck to you.

Be safe.

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you so much for your time.

Thank you.

Thank you.

See you again.

All right.

Moving on now to our next 905 a.m.

agenda item.

Sierra S.

Evans.

Oh, go ahead, come right up.

Sierra.

Um 905 a.m.

agenda, Sierra S.

Evans, Class D operator's license renewal application.

Good morning.

Good morning.

If you'll raise your right hand, I'll get you sworn in.

Do you solve your from on the defense of penalty suburbs of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give is it true, the whole truth and a few more the truth?

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

And will you please state your name and address for the record?

Sierra Evans, 4305 North 25th Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

5B209.

Thank you.

Um, and will you pull the microphone closer to you?

This is and you can pull it closer to Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

The applicant still has some following past due fines for parking citations as of 1142.

Okay.

That's all.

Yes, ma'am.

All right.

Um would you like to speak to the police report?

Um I paid the citation.

So I handle everything.

I believe so.

Okay.

You paid the citations in full?

Yes.

All right.

Was that just recently?

Yes.

This morning.

I just actually had it with you.

Yes.

You said this morning?

Yes.

Okay.

Because I just really received this this morning.

So thank you for probably had a busy morning doing that.

Oh, yeah.

Thank you for doing that.

Thank you.

All right.

Uh did we affirm notice?

We did not have to do that.

We did.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Well, we already got um a motion for approval.

Any discussion?

Did you want to see that, Aldermember Gallus?

Is there?

It matches the case number and the amount that's in the police report.

Great.

All right.

Um we have a motion for approval on the table.

Any discussion?

Any objection to that motion for approval?

Hearing none, so ordered.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

All right.

Okay, we'll move on now to our 910 a.m.

agenda item.

Lazaric Hill, Class D operator's license application.

Is Lazaric Hill?

It could be Lazarikel.

I might be mispronouncing it.

Well, may as well like it wins for the case.

Alright, is this the first time non appearance?

Jim Cooney?

Uh this is the first time appearance.

Alder Woman Pratt moves to hold to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered.

We'll move on to our 9 15 a.m.

agenda item.

So Rob Meta.

Did I say it?

Well, Meta.

So Rab Meta.

Yes.

Agent for Guru Mart L L C Class A fermented malt, Class A liquor, food dealer and weights and measures licenses application for PK's Pantry at 10707 West Hampton Avenue.

Good morning, Aldo Alderman.

Good day, how are you?

Good, thank you.

How's the committee doing this morning?

Good.

You all look fantastic.

Not too far behind.

Thank you for bringing us a gallon of coffee.

Yes, sir.

If you'll both raise your right hand, I'll get you sworn in.

Is it true the whole truth?

And I think with the truth?

Yes.

Yes.

Thank you.

All right.

Mr.

Meta.

Yes.

Are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

And if you'll please state your name and address for the record.

My name is Sora Meta.

I'm resident of 9325 South Cobblestone Way.

Uh it's in Franklin.

You're the number F.

And my zip code is 53132.

Okay.

All right.

Um thank you.

Mr.

Clooney, are there any holds?

No holds.

Sergeant Velazquez, is there a police report?

No police report.

All right.

I see it's a new application.

Yes, ma'am.

Would you like to tell us a little bit about your experience and plan?

Yes, you know, uh, I'm in process of uh uh you know taking over this uh corner store.

It's on 107th and Hampton.

So basically I I work as a salesman in a distributing company called Badger.

So I have like uh roughly a seven to eight years of experience in that sales lines.

And uh yeah, I would say I will be like best my put my best effort for the corner store to have like good business with good you know customer scales and everything.

Okay, provide the best to the neighborhood and all.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Questions from committee members for the applicant at this time?

Alderman Bergellis.

Thank you.

Um there was a previous incident, excuse me, at the at the um business.

Uh so we're we're not really concerned about that because you're a new operator.

Uh but your plan of operation shows that you have five security cameras.

Is that sufficient for your business given the nature of what happened there before?

No, they have not five, I would say they have uh around eight, but yes, I'm in process of adding a few more on the on the which covers most of that parking lot area, which is also I have been considering to add up as soon as I take over.

Okay, because your plan of operation says five, but you're saying that you have eight?

Yes.

They already but I think yeah, they have already eight cameras.

Okay.

Um we have to amend it.

I'm a little I'm a little concerned that you don't know how many cameras you have at your store that you're buying.

No, actually, you know, I'm in I haven't take over number yet.

Oh, you're yeah, I haven't taken over yet.

Okay.

All right.

Um we'll just leave it there, I guess.

Sure.

Thank you.

Thank you, Alderman.

Anything further from committee members?

Questions from uh Alderman Westmoreland for the applicant at this time?

Jim, what does it say for uh their plan of operation for cleaning?

Uh it says that they would uh sweep daily and cleaning would be done by the licensee and the employees.

Um good morning.

Are you willing to be more specific to that point?

Um convenience stores, liquor stores, gas stations in the district have issues with cleanliness.

Um I've seen operators close for the day and walk right over the litter.

So can we be more specific in that plan as to how you will keep the premises clean?

No, you know as far as frequency.

I I agree.

No, it it won't be like that.

I have like in my mind, like I I would even assure you that we're gonna make like pretty it's like pretty beautiful.

I'm gonna have in it's in my mind already to make it clean outside and just to install some plants as we enter into the spring so that it's become a beautiful corner spot for the neighborhood.

And for the cleaning, yes, I'm gonna myself take care of it, and even we have an employee, I'm gonna do the to do.

I don't know previous owner how they are doing, but I'm gonna have assigned all the jobs and duties for the staff so that it should be taken care of.

How frequent can you commit?

Me coming.

As far as the frequency, how many times per day can you do it?

Can you do it once per hour?

Once every other hour the cleaning thing?

Yeah.

No, we can do maybe three times a day, and maybe morning when I show up or in the middle of the day.

If I show up some later, we can easily clean it up.

Morning midday and at close of business.

Okay.

Can we add that to the plan?

Yeah, sure.

So uh would you so you'd like to amend your plan of operation to commit to cleaning three times per day?

Three times, yes.

No, I don't want to.

If something's in the so if we amend your plan of operation, you're committing to do that, doing that your license would be subject to uh non-renewal if you don't follow your plan of operation.

So um the alderman is asking for you to amend your plan of operation so that you have to clean three times per day.

Yes, we can do that, sir.

Not a property.

All right, so you are so um madam chair.

I'll uh with the applicant's consent, I'll move to amend the plan of operation.

Uh that cleaning will be done performed three times per day.

Okay every day.

Yeah, we can do that, sir.

Would you like to make that amendment, sir?

Um it is usually with all the businesses that is happening.

I'm not sure because I'm entering into this for the first time.

I don't know how the other businesses do, they come in like that or what?

Yes, I mean it's good to do it.

I prefer that you guys do this ahead of time, but we can do it here at the table.

So we can make that amendment if you would like.

Yeah, sure.

We can do that.

So just so you understand this is a this is a commitment to the change your plan of operation to clean no less than three times per day every single day.

So basically you want like there should be no later in the parking or that's what the alderman expects of you.

Yeah, it's it's gonna take care of care enough, no problem.

All right, so I'll move to amend the plan of operation.

Uh, so that whenever you cross by you see it's a good thing.

I'm in the middle of a motion, sir.

All right.

Obviously, sir.

It's his first time.

That's all right.

Okay, I think I already heard your amendment if I could if I may.

Or do you want to say it again?

Well, I we kind of got back to the case.

Okay, go ahead.

Yes, you're right.

Go ahead, Alderman.

Madam Chair, I'll move to amend the plan of operation for cleaning uh outside no less than three times per day.

Okay.

Alderman Peter Bergelis moves to amend uh the applicant's plan of operation to reflect his commitment to cleaning three times per day.

And hearing no objection to that motion so ordered.

Thank you, Alderman Bergellis.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, everyone.

We're not done yet.

Oh sorry.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

All right.

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

Um with that, we're in the fifth Aldermanic district.

Alderman Westmoreland.

No concerns.

Very good.

All right.

Well then, uh, we'll head into committee.

Alderwoman Pratt.

Moves for approval as amended.

Thank you.

Any objection to that motion?

Hearing none, so ordered.

Thank you.

Good luck to you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

Okay.

We will move on now to our 920 a.m.

agenda item.

Satwinder Singh, agent for Spring Circle L L C Extended Hours Establishments, filling station, food dealer and weights and measures licenses application requesting to open 24 hours every day for BP Pantry 41 number 86 at 8661 West Brown Deer Road.

All right, good morning, Mr.

Sang.

Attorney Michael Maestelman on behalf of the applicant who appears in person and on the pairing is Zoom.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

I didn't mean to interrupt you.

No, no, that's fine.

Thank you, Attorney May Swimman.

Um, all right.

And I see Alderwoman Taylor is also joining us virtually.

Good morning, Alderwoman.

Yes, good morning.

I'm here.

All right.

If um both Alderwoman Taylor as well as Mr.

Singh would raise your right hand, we'll get you both sworn in.

Do you saw me if you want the dependence of penalties of perdu of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true the whole truth and if you move the truth?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you, sir.

Okay.

Alder, thank you.

Okay, Mr.

Singh, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

And will you please state your name and address for the record?

My name is Satwinder Singh, and I am for 8661 West Baron Dear Road Milwaukee.

Thank you.

All right, Mr.

Cooney, are there any holds?

Thank you.

Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

On 121623, the applicant was cited at 8661 West Brown Deer for sales cigarettes to a minor.

And 313, they were convicted and fined.

On 6725, the applicant was cited at 8661 was brown deer for sales, cigarette to a minor.

On 11724, they were convicted and fined.

Would you like to speak to the police report?

Yes, we will close uh recently, you know, for uh more than a month, you know, and all those staff is gone.

So we will uh do with the new people, you know.

The person who did that, you know, they already gone, you know, so we take a we have a zero tolerance, is what he's saying, madam chair.

And as you can see, everybody's been fired because they shut down for a period of time.

So we have a whole new budget staff, and I put together a plan to help train their staff uh to ensure that they don't violate selling anything uh to underage uh people.

All right.

Because you're when you look at the police report, doesn't look like a zero tolerance policy.

I I agree.

I'm sure.

All right, let me let some can committee members ask some questions.

Alder Member Gellis.

My concern is that you didn't fire the staff for cause for selling cigarettes to a minor, you fired them because you were shut down.

No, Dave's he was gone before that.

Why did why did the staff person leave?

Why was the staff person no longer employed with you?

We sold the cigarette.

Because he sell to the miners.

He was why he was gone, you know, after that.

We open what a minute, you know.

That wasn't that wasn't very clear.

I appreciate the information.

All right, thank you.

So you you um you gave him two years, you gave him a chance for two, because he looks is this the same worker that made all these offenses, sold cigarettes to miners?

No, Dave was a different one, and they are gone, you know.

That's why we had zero tolerance, you know.

If it happens, they have to go.

I mean, zero tolerance, you guys are throwing that around.

Like I mean, there's three offenses on here that happened over the span of two years.

It doesn't seem like a zero.

I think to use that talking point is disingenuous.

Council don't know.

When they brought me in, I put together a plan.

I can't take responsibility for what happened in the past.

Just trying to go forward.

All right.

Umder woman Taylor, any questions on the police report?

Um, you know, we've gone back and forth over um this, and um we've already talked about how um they have not necessarily been an asset to the community.

Um this was just another strike um uh besides the fact of poor upkeep of the area, and then we had these offenses.

So we are still extremely concerned about their ability to be an asset to to our community based on that police report.

All right, thank you.

Oh, Alder Member Gallis.

Um, so the second item on the police report is has not been adjudicated yet.

Are you are you still fighting that ticket in in court?

Yes, okay.

So, Madam Chair, I'll move that we hold item number two open.

All right.

Since it hasn't been dispositioned yet.

Oh, I see.

Pre-trial scheduled for March.

So if uh when the if the science isn't is renewed today uh and there's a uh request to renew it again, we can keep item two open.

Okay.

So that's a motion we vote on the okay.

Oh if I may just clarify real quick about the Jim Cohen about the status of this application.

It's actually a new application.

The application was previously denied for non-renewal.

So what?

Uh excuse me, previously non-renewed for not uh three non-appearances.

Oh, I'm sorry, so you're a new operator.

Well, technically they are, but they've been operating there.

And you all might know Jay Wall.

He's come before the committee.

He owns places throughout the city.

He's committed to me, and I I thought he was committing to the older woman that he was gonna commit substantial amounts of money to bring this up to uh the condition that it should be in, and including um a new signage, older woman tailored and I talked about that um and and other things.

It's a pretty big uh footprint up there.

So how long has he been has the place been closed?

Almost I believe they go ahead.

I'm sorry, Jim.

What was that?

More than a month.

I I can look it up, but it's been um a while, a few months.

Okay.

I think it was around November, but let's let Jim look that up.

Yeah, yeah.

September 23rd, yeah.

Yeah.

So yes, so he so he was uh an operator there, did no upgrades or anything, no fix up the the this was the same one that we've had lots and lots of conversation about where the gas station was pretty much empty, you couldn't do anything but really pump gas.

It just kind of still looked like a ghost town.

And that that was the whole thing about being sort of not an ass that to the community, as as uh attorney Mazelman said, it is a big footprint because it's one of the main uh is it's attached to one of the main strips, strip malls on Brown Deer Road, which is you know, where we're we're hoping to have some substantial development there with the amount of land that we have for Northridge.

And so if we keep allowing uh uh persons to come in and uh have um uh have uh entities like this where they're a liability more so than an asset, uh it could be very damaging for uh welcoming new development.

We have had lots of conversation.

He has, as Michael, as uh attorney Mazelman stated he has agreed to upgrade um to upgrade signs.

Um the only my I am concerned uh that he's made a lot of promises before, he hasn't kept them.

Uh he has met with the GAC.

GAC is also concerned um because they've had extensive conversations about him keeping his promise.

Um I'm going to to leave the vote.

It is a new application.

Um, this will be his second opportunity.

Um, and then I'm gonna let you guys base on the uh uh even on that police report.

It I if if they can turn it around, that would be great.

We will give them an opportunity to turn it around.

Um, but it is um we are still very much concerned about his ability to keep keep his promises that he's made about becoming an asset to the community.

Madam Chair.

Thank you.

We have a motion on the floor.

Do you need to you need to speak briefly, attorney Meselman?

Yes, I I was gonna suggest that maybe we either uh hold this uh so that we can put together a plan um that would address uh the alder woman's concerns and everybody's concerns that way.

Um today's not the end.

Either you deny it or you don't deny it, but obviously there needs to be work there, and I think uh uh an amended plan of operation might be appropriate.

I'm sure I'll all support a um holding this so that the details can be worked out.

I see that litter is gonna be cleaned up as needed.

It sounds like that's not necessarily that's not sufficient for the location.

The older woman has some concerns.

I think we need to get give them some time to work out a good plan of operation so that the business can be an asset to the to the neighborhood.

All right.

So I'll move to hold.

All right, we did have Alderman Brower waiting to speak.

No, um, we're good.

Thank you.

All right, apologies, Alderman Brouwer.

It's fine.

Everybody kept getting in there.

Um, although I hate spending this much time on an application just to hold it.

I think very good points were made.

Alderman Al, I'm sorry, Alderman Peter Bergella is supposed to hold this item to the call.

The chair, any objection?

Oh, Jack.

I mean, aren't they already closed?

They are currently closed.

Yeah.

So just the conversation need to be had or a plan need to be worked out.

Can this be done before license?

Possibly.

Maybe.

I mean, it depends what um dialogue the attorney has with his uh client.

It seems like these needs to be worked out because they're already closed.

So it's like this the perfect time to get painting done and get things done.

Exactly.

You know, I I agree.

I don't think that we especially if we're so far into the application that it needed to be held.

Auto woman, uh, do you think you could get this done before uh council day?

Um you know, I I don't I don't want to commit to that because it's really gonna the the uh Jay Wally is not in town right now.

Um so that that will depend on when we're able to have that conversation.

Okay, we need to we're in the middle of the city.

Okay, then let's just move forward.

We were we shouldn't have done what what just happened, by the way, but that's fine.

Um again, the motion on the table is uh hold to the call of the chair by Alderman Brighlis.

I note Alderman Jackson's objection.

Any further objection?

All right, hearing none, um motion passes four to one.

All right, please confer with your attorney, Mr.

Singh.

Okay, thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I'll be back in about maybe 20 minutes for my last one.

Yep.

Okay, moving on to our 925 a.m.

agenda item.

Jawad Ahmad, agent for J Enterprises Petroleum 2 LLC, extended hours establishments, filling station food dealer, and weights and measures licenses renewal application for Prospect Clark at 2200 North Prospect Avenue.

Is Jawad Amar present?

I'm sure yes, I am.

All right, okay.

Good morning.

Good morning.

All right, if you'll raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in, Mr.

Ahmad.

That the testimony about to give is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Yes.

Thank you, sir.

All right, thank you.

And uh, Mr.

Ahmad, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, I am.

Okay, thank you.

All right, and if you'll please state your name and address for the record.

Jawad Ahmad, 13435 North Northwood Lane, my 1Wisconsin.

Thank you.

All right, Mr.

Cooney, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay, Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

Item six from last cycle has been updated with the status.

He was found guilty and sentenced to nine months probation, and his license was revoked for one year.

Uh the following items are pertained to prospect Clark at 2200 North Prospect.

On 4725 at 639 p.m.

An officer conducted a Wisconsin winds tobacco compliance check, and employees sold the participant who was a minor grape switcher suite without confirming they were illegal age possessed tobacco products.

On 6925, the applicant was found guilty in Milwaukee Municipal Court and paid a fine.

The applicant was found guilty in Kenosha County Circuit Court of Bail jumping.

You paid a fine for that as well.

The applicant is currently on probation.

On 1215 25 at 747 a.m.

An email was sent to the Department of Corrections requesting they provide a license the license division for information regarding the probation status and any opposition on granting a license.

Okay, thank you.

And chair.

Uh yes, Mr.

Coney.

Thank you.

Uh, we do have that letter from the DOC in the file.

Uh and the license does not violate the terms of uh the applicant's release.

Thank you.

All right.

Um would you like to speak to the police report, Mr.

Ahmad?

Uh no, I think it's pretty straightforward.

Okay.

All right.

I do have a question around the um uh selling tobacco to a minor.

Were you were you the licensee at that time?

I am the licensee at the time, and I have spoken with the employee and re retrained that employee um for that.

This is his first offense regarding this, and uh I decided that re retraining him would be the best course of action.

All right.

Okay, thank you.

Further questions from committee members on the police report?

I'm sure Alderman Bergelis.

Uh do you use a uh ID scanner at the checkout for tobacco purchases?

Uh we do have an ID scanner, yes.

I believe it does notify us.

It doesn't necessarily a uh force us to scan the ID, but it does force the employees on the register as a check to enter their date of birth.

Um have you considered changing your point of sale to require the ID scan for every purchase?

Um I have considered it, yes.

And you decided not to?

I have not made that decision yet.

Um I think with this retraining that would be sufficient.

Um rescanning it is a very um it's an effective way, yes, but it also is can be impractical in a sense of how many customers you have, how agitated people will become with scanning it and how long it takes.

So I think you know um having them train properly to look at the ID is the most effective way moving forward.

Except for this one time.

That is correct.

This this this employee needed to go to retraining in order to, you know, understand better, I guess, how to do it.

So he he now is fully aware of it.

Okay.

All right.

Questions from Alderman Brower on the police report?

No.

Okay.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item?

All right.

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

With that, we are in the third Aldermanic district.

Alderman Brower.

Yeah, thank you so much.

We um we were uh this was required to go to a hearing due to the probation status.

So we did get I just want to reconfirm again from uh Mr.

Coney that um DOC has said this doesn't violate the probation.

That's correct.

Okay, I move approval then.

All right, Alderman Alex Brower has moved for approval.

Any discussion on that motion?

Alderman Bergellis.

I see the um OWI is still pending, so I'll ask that to hold that open.

All right.

Um six on the police report.

Okay.

Uh chair, that's the one that I updated that.

That's why he's on probation.

Oh, that so that is closed.

And then I withdraw my motion.

Thank you.

All right.

So Alderman Bergellis did withdraw that motion.

So the motion on the table again is approval by Alex Brower Brouwer.

Any further discussion?

Any objection to that motion?

No, thanks, Sam.

All right.

Hearing no objection, so ordered.

Good luck to you, Mr.

Ahmad.

Thank you.

All right, let's move on now to our 9 30 a.m.

agenda item.

Ruben A.

Ereta, agent for Jaliscos Cosina Ibar, 1987, LLC.

Class B Tavern and Public Entertainment Premises, Food Dealer and Sidewalk Dining Licenses application requesting instrumental musicians, bans to amusement machines, and comedy acts for Jaliscos Cosina Ibar at 2018 East North Avenue.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

All right.

Good morning, attorney.

Did you want to introduce yourself?

I am Attorney David Halbrooks, and um pleased to introduce you to Mr.

Rubin Jr.

Thank you.

Um, all right.

Will you please raise your right hand, sir?

We'll get you sworn in first.

Thank you.

Yeah, we were in the world.

All right.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, I'm sorry.

Thank you.

And if you'll state your name and address for the record.

My name is Ruben A.

Herrera.

Uh my address is uh 2018 East North Avenue.

Or 2012, East North Avenue.

All right.

Um, Mr.

Cunny, are there any holds?

So hold for occupancy and a hold from the health department for inspection.

Thank you.

Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

No police report.

All right.

I see it's a new application.

Would you tell us a little bit about your experience and plan for the business?

Sure.

Uh me and Alex known each other like a week ago already.

We had a community committee.

Uh basically, um I've been following my father ever since he opened his first business in 1987 on 16th Street.

And after that, a couple of years, 1990, we opened the highly schools on North Avenue.

And um I've been taking along with him ever since.

And I've been having experience in restaurant business over like over 20 years.

I'm 47 years old, so over 20 years, I believe.

Twenty twenty-five years.

Then I ventured somewhere else.

Um but uh I will have a steady steady uh steady uh employees to be organized in the restaurant and also um just uh me being aware of the people that walk in, employees that are there.

Okay.

And uh was the it's been closed, right?

Was this the one that was Judy's and then it closed?

No, uh really know.

Across the same.

Oh yes, um, I'll give it to your Alder Alder Brick.

Oh, I'm sorry, Alderman Brown.

So the yeah, the um the family did own Jalisco's on East North Avenue, but it was in the clock tower building.

Yes, on the southeast corner of Prospect and North.

So this is in the old BBC uh sl um hacienda building um on the northeast corner of prospect and uh farwall and north, excuse me.

So they they're moving across the street and down the block, although they were not in the clock tower building for a number of years.

So they were there for a while, not and then not there, and then now they're gonna basically reopen their east slide location on East North Avenue at Farwall and North in the old Hacienda location.

Okay, thank you for that, Alderman Brower.

Thank you.

Very good.

Okay.

Um questions from committee members or Alderman Brower at this time for the applicant.

Okay.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.

With that, we're in the third Aldermanic district.

Alderman Brower.

Yeah, thank you so much.

Um we had a great community meeting with this uh with this applicant and neighbors who um are very excited for this business to be open.

The the uh storefront has been uh empty for a little bit, so the uh the bid as well is excited to have a new neighbor um in the uh new business neighbor in the neighborhood.

So um we had a we had we have had a lot of um excitement for this, so with that I'd like to uh move to approve.

Very good.

Alderman Alex Brower moves for approval.

Any discussion on that motion?

Any objection?

Hearing none so ordered.

Good luck to you.

Thanks.

Thank you so much.

Thanks.

It's been a power since I can remember in the 80s, and now it's gonna be a restaurant.

This is a big deal.

I can't wait to go.

From the east side.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good luck, Mr.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

All right.

I'm gonna pass the gavel to Vice Chair Pratt.

Okay.

Oh, Chair, that's the first one.

We are actually three minutes ahead.

There's a bit of a gap in the agenda because something was withdrawn.

Um there is five minute break.

Five minutes uh there is some agenda only and a warning letter if you want to.

Oh, yeah, you want to go.

Okay, I'm gonna run to the restroom.

Okay.

So Otterman Jackson.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay.

I'm sorry.

That's entirely up to you.

Let's just take a second.

We're gonna take a five-minute break.

We're ahead of schedule, guys.

Five minutes.

Thank you, Vice Chair, for giving us the break.

Next on our nine fifty five AM agenda, we have Platon Peña Delgado.

Splaton Penya Delgado present.

Please come up to the table.

So Platon Penga Delgado Class B Tavern and Public Entertainment Premise License application requesting instrumental musicians disc jockey bands karaoke for amusement machines and patrons dancing for Mohitos Nightclub at two one zero West National Avenue.

Are you received of notice of today's meeting with a possibility that your application may be denied?

Mr.

Cooney, are there any hopes?

Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

No police report.

Okay.

Yes.

New premises for alcohol.

Okay.

Well, yes, I used to have another um restaurant and um here in eight twenty-a south for sister.

So I think it was open for uh about year and a half or year and eight months.

So I had the opportunity to open this nightclub and this mention artist.

I hope you guys can approve of my license so I can keep busy my people.

That one used to work with me back in the days.

Right now they have a little hard time to find a job.

So that's one of the reasons why I want to open that one over there.

Okay, thank you.

Are there any questions from committee about the plan or experience?

Madam Chair.

Autopark's Amarita.

Yes, I just wanted to confirm this is not a restaurant.

You're you were just speaking to what you used to run.

Because this is not a restaurant, this is solely a nightclub, correct?

I know.

Yes.

Okay.

Thank you.

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Let the record reflect that there are no neighbors present to testify.

This is in the 8th automatic district.

Autumn Persons Amaripo.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um I have met with um Mr.

Peña Delgado um in person.

We also talked over the phone.

I appre appreciate your tenacity.

Um, Mr.

Pena Delgado.

Um, but as I have shared with you before, there is an oversaturation of alcohol licenses on National Avenue.

And I believe that a nightclub on 21st International in the Clark Square neighborhood.

Um, one of the most vulnerable areas in my district with continual public safety problems, as we talked about.

Um, everything unfortunately from prostitution to drug use to um loitering um in the area.

I cannot support a nightclub with this liquor license and uh full PEP pretty much.

It's just not something that I believe is appropriate for the neighborhood.

But of course, wanted to give him the floor to um appeal to the committee as his his right.

So you have the opportunity now just to uh speak to the committee about yeah, I mean she keeps saying that about the prostitution and the homeless in that area, but I don't know what that gotta be with me exactly because I mean size I can't remember 20 years I'm living here in the state uh Wisconsin nationalists always prostitutes over there, so I don't know what exactly that gotta be with me.

For me, I'm going to open from 9 p.m.

to 2 p.m.

I try to fix the building where I'm going to rent and install this nightclub.

I'm going to remove all the plywood that one is installing the windows.

I want to make it look nice.

I want to light up the section, and I'm going to light up the parking lot that one is across the street.

And pretty much I'm going to hire the right company to keep it clean.

The section belonged to this address.

Even that one is in the in the park of the building, then it's in the front.

So that's my goal to keep it safe.

I'm going to hire the security companies to make sure everything is going to be safe for the customers getting into the building.

And uh, and like I'm saying, I'm going to hire at least eight full-time people, plus the security companies to keep it safe.

Whatever it is about the prostitution and all the homeless, I already splaying here.

I mean, the homeless is now where they can get in because in order to get into the building, they have to pay sort of money.

Could be like a 20 or maybe 20 bucks for person.

And the security companies I'm going to hire, uh, those it's gotta be a people with license.

So it's not gonna be just like a people, somebody just grabbed them for a t shirt and say no, you are a security.

And the other building, 828 South Fourth Street, Aliza, once or twice a month.

Um the city of Milwaukee authorized me to make uh a parish like a Mexican bands and this and that, and I never have problems with the police department.

Whoever worked for that section in the regarding the police department, they say they don't have problems with me because my record is clean.

They say no problem in order to me open up again the nightclub over there.

Okay, thank you.

Autor Persons Amaripa, did you have?

I just wanted to add one more point since uh Mr.

Benedo keeps pushing back on the public safety issues that are a big concern in the Clark Square neighborhood.

Even if we wanted to set that aside as he wants me to do, um I have brought up uh with you the parking concerns as well.

I didn't even hear you speak to them in your testimony right now.

Um but parking is also a concern in this densely densely populated area of the city.

But I wanted to add that context as well for the committee.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you.

And we are in committee.

Does committee have a motion?

Neighbors.

Oh, it already has for neighbors.

Oh, you did.

Yeah, uh, did you move now based off of um auto person testimony?

No, you'll have to have to say that, yeah.

This is a new application.

Yeah, so just move denial.

So the motion by Otterman Jackson is denial.

Are there any objections to that motion?

Hearing saying no objections, so order the motion cat passes.

Thank you.

Good luck.

Next on our 10 a.m.

agenda, we have Garpete Garpreet Singh, agent for AJ Food Mark Corp, Class A malt, Class A liquor, extended hours establishment, food dealer and weights and measures license renewal application, adding stockholder and transfer of stock for a greenfield pantry at 1110 West Greenfield Avenue.

Is Garpee Singh present?

Good morning.

Uh this is Attorney Vince Babbitt on behalf of Garpreet Singh.

Uh Mr.

Singh is out of the country at this moment.

I'm here with several employees.

So I have to say you're a receipt of right.

Yes.

Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Attorney Bobbitt.

Yeah.

Yes.

Okay.

Sergeant, I'm I'm sorry.

Mr.

Cooney, are there any holds?

No.

Sergeant Alaska is there a police report.

The following items pertain to 1100 1110 West Greenfield.

On 81625 at 422 a.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to a battery.

Investigation revealed this was a battery that occurred outside the business.

Whoever the business was cooperative providing video surveillance is this assistant in the officers' investigation.

On age 1725 at 1029 a.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to check for a stolen auto.

On arrival, officers are unable to locate the vehicle.

However, the business was cooperative in providing video surveillance of the driver who attempted to purchase tobacco, but would was denied the sale due to no ID.

On 81725 at 11 30 p.m.

Milwaukee police observed subjects loitering and possibly drug dealing in the parking lot.

The business is known as a standing complainant, and officers deterred further activity with their presence.

On 1029, 25 by 9 13 p.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to a battery.

The officers were advised the subject spit at an employee.

The subject stated the employee pushed her first.

The subject was advised they were no longer welcome at the store.

An 111425 at 1113 a.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to a threat.

Investigation revealed the subject entered the store asking for weed.

The clerk showed the subject a synthetic DHC, at which time the subject opened it.

When the subject was advised, they needed to pay for it.

The subject began causing a disturbance and knocked over a litter uh a scanner causing damage.

The officer located the subject and issued them a citation.

On 1127, 25 at 659 a.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to a battery at a local hospital.

Investigation revealed the victim engaged in a physical altercation outside of the business.

The business was cooperated, cooperative allowing officers to view video surveillance, which assisted with the investigation.

On 12525 at 810 p.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to a trouble or subject.

The business called regarding a disruptive subject, arguing and making threats towards the clerk.

Security was on scene and escorted the subject out.

On 12, 1125 and 9 57 p.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to a battery.

Investigation revealed two subjects were involved in a physical altercation outside of the business.

The business was cooperative and allowed officers to view video surveillance, which assisted in the investigation.

On 1 9 26 at 5 36 p.m., Milwaukee police were dispatched to a shooting investigation revealed two vehicles in the area were exchanging gunfire when an employee taking out the trash was struck by a bullet in the leg.

The business was cooperative with the investigation, allowed officers to view video surveillance of the incident.

On 1 9 26 and 9 10 p.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to a battery.

The business called regarding a subject that was escorted out by security for fighting with another subject.

At which time the suspect threw a rock in an employee vehicle damaging it.

Thank you.

Um whoever else is here to testify.

I do.

Thank you.

All right.

Yes, I would.

Uh thank you.

Um I will tell you this is a long-standing business uh on Greenfield Avenue.

Ever since uh, as long as I can tell, it's always been an operation.

Uh the present owner has been there for a while.

As you can see from the rendition, uh, they are advised to call the police, which they do.

They cooperate with the police.

They do have a very good camera system in place.

Six cameras uh cover the outside of the store.

Fifteen cameras cover the inside.

They do have security on weekends from 4 p.m.

to 10 p.m.

Um I can tell you this is a business that's very well run.

Uh the things that they have to deal with though, uh most of the time are occurring outside the store.

For example, when uh the employee was shot, it was taken out the trash, and that wasn't even the only connection was it was an employee for the business.

Uh I can tell you that my client is fully cooperated with the police.

And uh I myself recently am going to help him with some other ideas to see if we can uh lessen the amount of costs to service, though it is challenging.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Does the committee have any questions about the police report?

Otterman and Perez, any questions about the police report?

No, I don't have any questions, but I do want to add that the property owner and the operator are constantly reaching out for assistance.

Uh from the police report, you read that they're standing complaint that they've even gotten restraining orders in the past against some of the uh more frequent flyers in the neighborhood that uh are just at the source of some of the nuisance behavior, and they've been extremely cooperative with the police and with our office trying to get as much help and resources to keep away the bad elements from the location.

Thank you.

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

One neighbor, and okay.

So please uh okay, so please state your name or address for the record.

Hi, my name is Sylvia Ortiz, and I am live directly across the street.

Excuse me.

Um, Miss Ortiz or Les, were you sworn in?

I think she was.

I can be.

Oh, my raise our right hand?

Yeah, raise your right hand to be sworn in.

The song of your family on the defense of Benji suburb you have the state of Wisconsin, the testing we're about to give is it true to whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Yes, I do.

So please state your name and address for the record and provide your testimony.

Um my name is Sylvia Ortiz Velez, and I live at 1336 South 11th Street.

And I'm here today to um talk about um the fact that um the owner across the street is been uh there for many years.

Um, and my experience has always been good um with him.

He's been very responsive, very proactive in dealing with issues around here.

I have a commercial, I live upstairs, so there's two storefronts that I have, and so I know the challenges around here in this neighborhood.

Um, but I've seen what I've seen from this operator is that he keeps his parking lot clean.

He's got constantly got people out there, you know, cleaning cleaning up the parking lot, which is a challenge.

Um, and security constantly uh I never go across the street and there's not security, and I do go across the street.

There's also a restaurant there as well now, and it's been remodeled.

Um it's looking a lot better in the neighborhood.

Um also um, you know, uh every time I've always you know reached out to the owner or his staff, they've always been respectful.

Um, you know, there's been incidences where I've had to ask them to use, you know, to see their camera feed because there's been problems at my corner and they've been they've been very helpful.

Um so uh I I think it's an important thing that our neighborhood has this, that would something they can walk to and get needs that they have, including the restaurant.

So all of it, all of it together.

Um, and I'm hoping that you guys will continue to renew the license for the people in our neighborhood to not be able to have access to certain items would also be um not very a good thing.

There's a lot of people around here don't have cars and need to walk to a place and get things that they need, and uh including myself.

There's times where I don't drive and I just walk across the street, and it's he keeps the place very clean.

I always feel safe going there, and that's pretty much all I wanted to say.

Okay, thank you.

Uh does the do any committee members have questions for this witness?

Autumn Perez, any questions for this witness?

Just appreciate you showing up and testifying.

Uh Attorney Bob, any questions for this witness?

Uh no, I do not have any questions.

Okay, thank you.

This is in the 12th Automatic District.

Auto uh Otterman Perez.

No, thank you.

I have no objections.

Okay, we are in committee.

Is committee have a motion?

Move approval.

Motion by Otterman Jackson is approval or any objections to that motion.

Hearing and saying none, so ordered.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next up on our 1005 AM agenda, Umabodomir Escobar, agent for Forest Home Avenue, Chicken Palace, LLC, Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises, and Food Dealer License Transfer Application with change of business operations to pool hall, change of trade name and change of floor plan, adding two pool tables for Chicken Palace, our Carambola at 1937 West Forest Home Avenue.

Is Vladimir Escobar present?

Good morning.

Valdemar Escobar appears through legal counsel, attorney Brian Randall of Amund Sand Davis 111 East Kilburn Avenue in Milwaukee.

I have receipt of notes of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied.

Yes.

Mr.

Cooney, are there any holds?

Sergeant Alaska, is there a police report?

On 629 25 at 137 a.m.

Milwaukee Police was dispatched to a shot spotter in 1909 West Forest Home.

Investigation revealed this was a shooting that occurred in 1937 West Forest Home Avenue.

The victim stated they were slapped by a subject inside the bar.

The subject and their party were escorted out by security.

As the victim was leaving, they observed a group of subjects assaulting their friend.

When the victim attempted to intervene, they too were assaulted and heard gunshots, realizing they were struck in the back of the head.

Shots fired or shooting.

On 7525 at 512 p.m.

Milwaukee Police and Patrol observed a tackle stand in front of the business, burst into flame.

The employees said they heard a hissing sign and observed a cloud of fire.

The business was cooperative.

At 9525 at 1234 a.m.

Milwaukee took in a walk-in stabbing that occurred at 9425 at 11:30 p.m.

The victim stated they were in 1937 West Forest Home Avenue and were dancing with an unknown subject when two subjects began to argue with them.

The victim stated when they exited the premise, they were attacked and stabbed.

One victim sustained multiple aspirations to their face and abdomen and arm.

The officer conducted follow-up while we're found the business closed and were unable to contact the agent via the phone.

The officer further noted blood splatter outside of the business and in the middle of the street.

On 9 20 25 at 10 p.m.

Milwaukee police were dispatched to a battery.

The caller stated they were in the bar and got into a rubber altercation.

They later turned physical with another group in the bathroom.

Security kicked both groups out.

However, a short time later, a physical fight took place outside between the groups, causing the security again break up the fight.

A single gun shot was heard, however, undetermined who fired the shot.

And 210 26 at 3 p.m.

Milwaukee police officer preparing for a meeting with the agent shut calls for service at the location in order to three shot spotters on the following dates and times.

However, officers were unable to locate any casings or property struck.

Very briefly, in the as much as it's my understanding that uh we may be it may be most appropriate to hold the police report for future discussion, but proceed with the transfer application at this time.

I was discussing with Alderman Perez Present Perez on that disposition.

Indeed, on February 10th, or in that time frame number six, my client did meet with Milwaukee Police Department as before.

It was the 12th, that's the actual date.

So if it's agreeable to the committee and and to President Perez to hold the police report so that we will be able to address them in substance in the future, but deal with the administrative elements that are before us.

That's how we are prepared to proceed.

And that's why my client's not here today because we wanted simply the paperwork to be addressed, but we are actively now working together on the substance of what was just read into the record.

Okay.

Uh so is there a motion by committee to hold open?

I don't know if you want to.

Uh President Perez, are you okay with holding open the items on the and actually that was brought to my attention by the license division that uh all we could really deal with today was the transfer and keep open the items on the police report for the renewal date?

Okay.

Okay, all right.

I'll move to hold those items.

Uh November will expire is November 23rd, 2026.

So hearing would be sometime before that.

Um, Madam Chair, I'll move to hold open the police report.

Okay.

Motion by Ottawa Consamaripos to hold open the items on the police report.

Um hearing saying no objections, so order.

Uh no.

Uh are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Let the record reflect that there are no neighbors present who wish to testify.

This is in the 12th Automatic District Art and Port.

Sure, I I appreciate the holding uh recommend to hold on the police report and move forward all the administrative transfers today.

Okay.

All right.

Uh so we are in committee.

All right, I'll move approval then as amended.

Correct, because we're holding open the police.

It's move approval holding open the items on the police report.

And the approval is adding two pool tables, changing the trade name, and updating the floor plan to accommodate the two pool tables.

Okay.

So I'm of approval holding open the items on the police report, madam chair.

Okay.

Motion by order personarifa is approval holding open the items on the police report.

Are there any objections to a motion?

Hearing a scene none, so ordered.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next up on our 1010 agenda, we have Lourdes Geronimo, agent for ESCV Club 69 LLC, Class B Tavern License Renewal Application and Public Entertainment Premise License Application requesting three amusement machines and hookah services for Club 69 at 1663 South Eleven Street is Alordez Geronimo present.

Madam Chair.

Yes.

Um I've spoken to the building owner applicant.

Um it is the request they've already been uh granted a provision on the request to hold this as the building owner plans on applying for the license and uh working on a plan with the neighbors.

Okay, thank you.

Next up on our 1020 AM agenda, we have Mars Marcelia Marcella Antunes Jimenez, agent for Takaria Paria Mix LLC, Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises and Food Dealer License application requesting instrumental musicians, disc jockey, jukebox, bands and patrons dancing for La Paria restaurant and bar at 1728 West Mitchell Street is Marisella Antunes Jimenez present.

Yes.

Okay.

Oh sure.

So please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Yes.

And yes for me too.

Thank you.

Are your receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Please state your name and address for the record.

Mr.

Cooney, are there any holds?

Uh yes.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, and Sam Dawson said Milwaukee licensed division two hundred East Wall Street.

Thank you, sir.

Mr.

Cooney, are there any holds?

There's a hold from DNS for the 300 foot rule, a hold for occupancy, and a hold from health, uh a hold for health inspection.

So it's within 300 feet of a church school or hospital.

Uh does not take care also, I believe.

Yeah, Sergeant Velasquez, oh I'm sorry, go ahead.

No police report.

Okay.

I see uh uh books.

Um it's to a church club here to take care of it.

Okay, uh she wasn't aware that there was one nearby work.

Sure.

If I may, um there is uh an exception from the 300 foot rule for a restaurant, um, which based on the plan of operation, I guess how you read this plan of operation is could well be, although there's also a public entertainment.

Um in our casoque restaurant.

Oh yeah.

So can you tell us about your uh experience and your plan for the business?

But no care un restaurant tan grande.

But Tamil Vendere comida you come tortas, no se cossumpo different.

Um so yeah, so the space has been vacant for the last four years, and so we'd love to be able to move in there with the idea of having primarily a restaurant we would like to be able to sell alcohol since people do enjoy um things like Michelas and Margaritas with their food.

Um they don't want it to be a super large restaurant, they want to be more intimate and fair, focusing on kind of um some of the snacks and appetizers and um treats that are really common in Mexican cuisine, um, and but also having staples like tortas and tamales.

So also wants to have other things like elotes and be able to kind of do things not like as same as like a big restaurant.

Are there any questions of uh from committee about the plan and experience?

Questions from Arnold Perez about the plan or experience?

Um sure.

One um I know that's I'm not in support of it, one because of the 300 rule, and I know there's not a police report, but um there is complaints in the neighborhood about events happening there regularly.

Um and then when the police department went to do the septe and explained to the applicant according to the email from Officer Diener, that I spoke with Miss Antonina's and advised her about the complaint.

She stated that she has had uh her building, excuse me, she stated the only event she had at the building is her family's New Year's Eve party and daughter's kinsenera.

We advised that renting out the space with occupancy in assembly hall could lead to citations affecting her license.

She stated that there could be confusion the use of her space because she allows the church to park across the street, and um as you can see from the from the flyer, um that she's had bands and events there, and I think that's just a violation of the pep license for occupancy.

I don't see why you would do a flyer for the public, have sponsors on the bottom if it was a family event, so um one I think the 300 foot rules enough for me, but the the fact that there's been a direct violation of occupancy and use of the building for events that had no business to be used for.

So I when I can parack so when I spoke with the police, yes, I did clarify that the New Year's Eve event was just for family and that the quincinera was hosted in an adjacent space, not in the um uh the restaurant space itself.

Um but yes, the New Year's Eve event was just for family.

The Kincenero was actually held in the Buddhist temple.

It was not in this location, it was in the Buddhist.

Because it was a larger event, it wasn't the restaurant isn't big enough for that type of event.

Okay, thank you.

Yeah, I'd ask the applicant if she promotes events, bands, things of that nature.

In this building, no.

So there were some um individuals from Oaxaca that were gonna be having an event at the Buddhist temple, and they had asked for my assistance with promoting it, and I said yes, I would love to help.

But how many events?

And then that's it for the the how much we're promoting.

Uh storetta no dos eventus creo they think about two.

But it but it happens at the Buddhist temple.

Uh-huh.

I don't know if the Buddhist temple has the right permits.

So I I I I'm just sharing it um to let people know about the event.

I'm not the one hosting it.

Yes, so I'm just sharing sooner or later the Buddhist temple will come up from the committee, and they also don't have occupancy or a pep less.

There were events there that were.

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Thank you.

You can uh come up to the standing mic.

Yes, I'm sure your name and address.

So you're gonna be given three minutes to speak.

I do.

Thank you.

My name is uh Travis Hope, 2701 South Tenth Street.

Um I'm a community organizer, um, but I also work a lot in the Muskego Way area.

I helped start the um Muskego Way Forward Um neighborhood group, which meets across the street at the church at 1717 West Mitchell.

Um I did talk to the church and they said that um they do let them use the parking there, but they're not aware, they weren't aware of the events that were going on on Saturday nights and other nights because they're not there at night.

Um I talked to a bunch of neighbors that are concerned about having this type of business open up there because we're trying to move in a positive direction, and the only businesses that we've had that have issues have been these types of businesses.

Um we had a bar on the other side of Muskego that had shootings and drug raids, so it finally got shut down Mitchell.

Um they just want more positive stuff.

I talked to the pastor today, he couldn't make it because he's at work, but I did ask him if he could write something to um Alderman President's office, so he'll be working on that because they they like the person, but they just don't want a bar across the street from the church or the neighborhood.

Um they want to continue to see the neighborhood grow.

And um yeah, so I have seen cars out there at night.

I know they're not the church's cars, so um obviously there's stuff going on at night.

Um, and we just hope that uh this gets denied.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh does it can you have any questions for this witness?

Uh President Paris, you have any questions for this witness?

You saw that you said you saw cars in there yourself firsthand.

What what time at night was this at?

Um nine, ten o'clock at night.

Okay.

And this is what day of the week.

Um it had to be like a Wednesday.

Okay.

Thank you.

Uh Honoris.

Thank you.

Um Travis, thanks for being here.

Um when you saw the cars in the parking lot, did you see any activity in the building?

Uh no, but there's no windows in the church building or in the I know for a fact there was nothing going on at the church.

Um and then uh in the building there's like no windows on uh Mitchell Street side.

It's all brick and no events.

So if something were going on in the city, yeah, something's going on aside you can't see.

Thank you for taking my track.

Thank you.

Does the advocate have any questions for this witness?

Okay, well, S mira carros el Fueves y Domingo, porque asis quando la iglesia occupa el parqueadero.

No.

No, she does not have any questions.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This is in the 12th automatic district, present for us.

Yeah, I would um I would ask that the committee deny the license based on the 300 foot rule, and I think it's evident from the file and the flyers that there's been a violation of the having events there without an occupancy or the proper permitting pep license and uh for those reasons uh I would ask the committee to deny the license requisite.

Thank you and the neighborhood.

Thank you, we are in committee.

Does the committee have a motion?

Um okay.

So you can you can uh did you want to speak, say something to end the testimony?

No is como daniara alien or so we so I I hope that you do approve this application.

We're trying to do something in this space that's been vacant for so long.

We you know we want to do something beautiful, we want to repaint it.

We don't mean to harm anyone, we don't mean to harm any neighbors or anything like that.

It's a big it's a big building, so if we don't go in there then what's gonna go in there?

It's just gonna stay vacant for just be nothing for the time being.

And for that reason we would like to be able to put a restaurant in there.

Thank you.

Honor Burgellis.

Thank you.

Um I'm looking at your Facebook and you were advertising an event on Friday, January 9th.

Um in the Buddhist temple for 45 dollars.

In a temple Buddhista for quarantine?

Oh laquillapaso?

Was that your was that was that your event?

Sorry, Alderman Bergellis, can you say that again?

Was that your event?

No, no, no.

We don't have anything to do with um with uh the events at the British Temple, we just uh help by sharing the event information.

Uh did you provide any food or alcohol for that event?

Are you darling alimentos, comida, alcohol?

Oh no, not solamente.

Okay.

Uh no, the individual did ask if we could do sales there.

We just did sales outside on the street.

Okay, so you okay, so you were so you provided food on the street for an illegal event?

No, for vendor.

It was uh sales out of our food truck for sales.

For you you you sold food out of your food truck for this event.

No, vendimos after sorry, yeah, the other is because you know people want to come out and buy, yes, they're right.

Right.

So I mean, so you were so you were legally selling food in a legal spot with your food truck.

It just happened to be outside of a an illegal event.

It was a coincidence.

So it's your testimony that it was a coincidence that your truck was outside of that event.

Yeah.

Sorry, you did a coincidence too.

Coincidencia.

So sometimes we go to do sales there, but just every once in a while.

Oh no pues.

But we don't have anything to do with the event beyond sharing information.

So like on Facebook.

Okay.

Um but your post, your your post on your Facebook that you shared, said to go to your location to buy tickets.

Buy tickets at your taco truck.

Oh, baile me pid si podemos ayudarles a vender el boleto.

And so they did ask if they could we could help them sell the tickets.

Thank you.

Uh we are in committee, is the committee have a motion.

I'm I didn't get a chance to ask my question.

Um I wanted to ask the applicant why why didn't you ever talk to the elder or why did you ever go through the process of getting permission to host these events?

Which events of the multitude of events that you've hosted.

We haven't done any events at our location or at our premise except for the new year's event.

And why didn't you get the appropriate permits?

Oh, you era algo privado para mí, itangola bodega, but no no se compa permiso, no se me ocurrió because it was uh it was a private thing, it didn't really come I didn't really think that I would need to get permission for it since it was a good one.

I only invited people um you know that I knew there was no cover charge.

And you know, yeah, I had like little gifts there, but it's just for my my community, you know.

Okay, one one more follow-up, ma'am chair.

Do you own other businesses?

I heard you said you mention a food truck, do you own uh you're an do you are you an agent for other businesses?

No, not in the 494.

Then that's two businesses, Signora.

So the answer is yes, right?

No.

No, Usted is uh food truck.

Just the food truck.

Okay, but answer is yes, in addition to looking at the same thing.

She's like sorry, I thought you meant other stores or something like that.

I just didn't understand.

Thank you, madam chair.

President Paris.

I knew where the church would be at, and the community told her that uh she would probably receive opposition.

I told her to be very careful with her resources at the building to make sure she got all her permits or licenses before she did any renovation.

I heard the story about how blighted it was and the need for doing stuff which I agree, I don't like blight, but it has to be a good business with a good fit.

She was given, I think a lay of the land very clearly about uh where the neighborhood would be at.

She had a she has her right to apply, that's why she's here today.

But it was very clear after the fact, after she was told that she could apply and that the neighbor would come out that all these things came out about events that were happening there from neighbors when they got the notice that she applied, neighbors emailed and called the office talking about events there regularly, and then there was an obvious connection with the promotions at the Buddhist temple, which they by the way will have their day here in front of you guys that didn't have an occupancy or a permit and were having events there.

So just just to clear that.

Since they opened with the license.

I just want to say that the uh New Year's event was a private event just for me and friends.

There was no cover charge or anything like that.

Okay.

Thank you.

We um didn't I just you know for the record when we talked, um it was all or nothing.

I I told her the difficulty with the public entertainment, late hours.

Uh it's news to me now that she just wants to do a restaurant.

Um but I'm just saying that it was it was all or nothing, and she did you know she I did tell her that if she wanted to, you know, her hours are till two in the morning and two thirty on Friday and Saturday every night of the week, and that's to me not a restaurant, that's a bar at that point.

So uh she wants to reapply and talk to the neighbors and if the church can come over and ask for parking uh upon applying for this license, she could have had the same conversation with the church before coming here today.

So licencias or niggono de los raro para el escuchar que solo restaurante porque in su orario in su solicitude in the mannesisados.

So yes, that that time was the plan on the application, but seeing the concerns here today, maybe it would be better to have a restaurant that's more like what I have on Forest Home.

Okay.

We are gonna just committee on a motion.

All right, thank you, madam chair, uh present.

Um yes, I've been listening intently to all of the testimony, um, and uh truly was trying to be empathetic to the applicant, but there have been many concerning statements coming directly from the applicant.

And when I asked if there were other businesses, Signora, and you said no.

Um only to find out immediately, you know, you correct you well, I don't think you corrected yourself, you contradicted yourself and said that in fact you own a food truck and a restaurant.

So for all of these reasons, um and all of the sentiment that was laid out today, um I at this time would move for denial.

For asones y los autos testimonies for India, you recommend that solicitude the motion by all the person repa is denial or the new objections to that motion hearing you saying no objections, so order it motion passes.

Call the next one.

Call the next one, yeah.

Oh, you don't have to read it.

Okay.

So next up on our 1030 AM agenda, we have Porfirio Perez Martin Martinez, agent for a Takaria A Y U U J K I L L C food dealer and food pillar license renewal application for a tacker AYUJKI at 2075 through 79 South 13th Street is Porfirio Perez Martinez present.

Is Porfirio Perez Martinez present?

Porfirio Perez Martinez.

Okay, see what hope to make simple Please raise your right hand to be sworn in the world.

Do you saw any from an independent penalties of Burger of the State of Wisconsin got the testimony about the give?

Is it true the whole truth and everything about the truth?

Yes.

Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes.

Please state your name and address for the record.

So my name is Porfirio Perez Martinez.

My uh address is 1612 West Windlake Avenue.

Thank you.

Mr.

Cunny, are there any holds?

No.

Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

No police report.

Okay.

Is there objections on fire?

Madam Chair, can I can I guess for us?

The food truck base is in my district off of Windlake, but the complaints are coming from the 14th Aldermatic District on South KK Avenue.

So that's what I saw.

And you'll see a very extensive email that brought the objections with pictures to this committee.

So I'm not sure if the elder woman wants to, I believe she's on the board if she'd like to chime in.

Okay.

So uh Otter Woman uh Dmitrievich, are you on the board to speak to this?

Uh yes, I can need it.

So um just raise your right hand if you sworn in.

Do you saw you from an independent penalties of you have the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true the whole truth and a femr?

Yes, I do.

Um hold on, uh Otterman Dmitrievich, I need also need to ask for neighbors first, right?

Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?

Let the record reflect that there are no neighbors present wish to testify.

Uh Ottawoman Dmitrievich, you can go ahead.

Yes, thank you.

Um Madam Chairwin and thank you, President Perez.

Um some of those complaints, as were stated, were from um from nearby neighbors and other business owners.

Um this is in the northern part of Bayview.

There's usually three to four food trucks.

Um some of these, like this one in particular is parked right out front of like Paloma.

It certainly feels like it's within the 50 feet.

I I haven't gone out there and measured.

Uh I'm not really sure who should be measuring.

Um, but DNS came out.

Um there were complaints about the generator being extremely loud.

Um all day long, some of the some of the food truck challenges.

I think the one that I'm most concerned about is uh is the fact that um it's taking up all of the parking and never moves on KK along with four other five food trucks, and again within I mean that's the the heart of our business district within fifty feet or so of other businesses there.

And so these were the objections from our constituents.

I'm not really sure what the solution is, but that's why they sent us the complaints and we had to um get it into the record, madam chair.

Uh the negotios keystone uh operando in the same area for kills negotiosy um occupando spaces parkiar in S blockamento Service para Cassidy sobre la ruidez de los operaciones.

Okay, D, can you mute yourself?

Sorry.

You're on a roll.

Okay, we're good.

Okay.

I'm sure Autumn Member Gallus.

Is parking a problem in that neighborhood?

Cited for parking meter violations or when we receive these complaints from some of the business owners, um DPW's been out there, DNS.

Um that would be for the administration to see if they if they sighted them.

But parking has been a big issue.

I mean, this is a highly it's right on the corner where Zillman Park is, and there's you know 50 businesses there.

Um button.

And parking has not sighted them.

Um from what we're being told.

And they're using the Zilman park address for their actual addresses.

Okay, so that's it.

Um, Madam Chair.

Go ahead, or I'll just say this this is an issue that we have too in my district uh in the food truck zone.

It is MPD largely that has to come out and do this kind of enforcement, in fact, solely this this type of uh enforcement, I'm sorry, along with DPW parking enforcement, and it's just a matter of, I mean they have to prioritize uh um their calls for service, but I would recommend to the business owners in this area and the residents that they frequently are calling parking enforcement, um PD non-emergency to make to report this, so you can get some action.

Um and then I would recommend to the uh elder to consider uh food truck zone in this area because I have noticed you're getting saturated with food trucks.

Um this could help you to address it.

I know that there's yes, we're just translating for the applicant.

Uh okay, I'll do it um impactos for esos problemas de parquear, they contact a department of policies publics para que yo mar action contra los vehiculos que están parcando aya in una manera ilegal or demasiado tiempo.

Okay, Autom Dimitrievich.

Thank you.

Um so there's not really metered parking around there.

Um, I thought parking.

Um it's like a two-hour zone.

Um but in response to the food truck zone.

I'm not sure that I I'd have to investigate that more because to have it be a food truck zone where there's like fifty businesses.

I think what I'm looking for is who enforces the fifty foot rule.

Um and we've been we've been kind of getting the runaround on that as well.

We we don't have like a objection to that business or type of business, but it really shouldn't be within fifty feet as the ordinance states.

Um and then not moving for many many hours seems to be like a parking issue.

So I think it's fine, it just needs to be regulated.

Um de asell y solo que uh um que está encargo de eso.

May I also add can we ask the business owner what is their business plan?

Like how many hours they plan to be there?

Like that would be helpful.

Thank you, sorry.

Uh normalmente orita lo tenemos de once a three.

Currently we're normally there from eleven in the morning to three in the morning.

Oh that's not a lot.

Yeah, that um food truck parking is two hours at a time.

Uh lamous con el spectora de lo que se dedican as de los comidas averiguo mantenerlo de los parking me dieron que star movendo so I do try our best to stay in line with the rules of the of this of the state and the municipality.

Um so I've spoken or I've spoken with the office that's in charge of parking enforcement.

I've spoken with the um health department who does the inspection um and the the parking enforcement did inform me that I need to move every two hours and that's what I do.

I move around every two hours.

Yes.

Yeah, but he just said that he stays at one place from eleven to a until three a.m.

But no me pregunto de que is item pero lo muevo cala dos horas.

So I you the question was was how what time am I there?

And so I am there from eleven to three.

But you didn't ask me how I did that.

And he's and now I do move every two hours.

Sure.

Um Mr.

Coney.

Thank you.

Uh just wanted to add that the food truck brochure that we've worked on in conjunction with MPD, DNS and Health does clarify you have to move off that block to a different block.

Okay.

So who would I how would I know that information or who would I go to to get that information?

Yeah it would be licensing division, but it was also in the brochure that every food truck it's it uh it outlines that you have to move every two hours and you have to move off of that block.

When I went to the licensed division last I was told everything was fine and that there wasn't anything I needed to do.

Yeah I don't want any problems with the state or with the law, I want to be able to follow the law.

Um I just need to know like what I need to do.

Okay to follow it.

Thank you.

Okay, uh other person I'm repo.

Can I just make a recommended recommendation to the applicant that before you leave city hall today, stop down at licenses division and they have the food truck guide for you bilingually in English and Spanish and I would keep that with you, keep it in the truck.

Thank you.

Uh did you have anything else present for us?

No, I mean um not at all.

I just I think we gotta find a way to tighten up a process for bases getting complaints or bases being called up to the table when the complaints are in other districts.

I know that there's some information, but we gotta we gotta find a a different way to to get ahead of that all day.

And have a solution.

Okay.

By the time we get here.

I just wanted to I agree with um President Bedez.

Uh in fact I know Alderman Westworlin and I have been working on an update to our to the comprehensive food truck legislation that I had once worked with uh Alderman Brassov on.

I do think there's some updates that need to be made, and I hope I can work with my colleagues, including Alderwoman Dmitrievich and um uh another food truck file coming forward shortly that could address some of these concerns.

I think this is an example of some of the larger concerns that were that we're all having as this industry continues to grow and become more popular every day, these food trucks.

Uh I want to comment that in this period and lose negotiating food truck, it's important to acquire um that respuesta y los preocupaciones de destinos or yotos negocios.

Yes, it's one of those problems that regulaciones no son claros at all.

Yes.

But with that, I'd like to move uh approval with a warning letter.

Okay.

Go ahead.

Um I'll make it quick, thank you.

Um I just want to add that uh as a note as we move forward with this, there seems to be we're getting mixed signals, and I also feel badly for the operator through what parking is telling them.

We got reports that parking was telling them to move inches.

So we need to get on the same page here because it looks like there's some enforcement challenges as well, so let's note that for discussion as well.

Thank you.

Hearing and saying no objections, so order.

Next up on our 1040 AM agenda, we have Robert A.

Edwards loading zone license renewal application at 3143 South Illinois Avenue.

Is Robert A.

Edwards present?

Last time.

Please come up to the table, Mr.

Edwards.

Yeah, we only have two items tonight.

So cool.

Oh yeah.

I think I might anywhere here or anywhere you want to say.

Yeah.

Oh, she can send up oh here she is.

I think we were told just five people, so I made all five panels for that.

Fairly brief, and I think they can be sure.

I'm sorry.

Okay.

So if if you'll be testifying on your raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Yeah.

Do you solve you from the defense of penalties of birdie of the state of Wisconsin that the test you want about the give is it true the whole truth and if you want the truth?

We do.

Thank you.

Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?

Yes, we did.

Okay.

Please state your name and address for the record.

Name and address you said?

Yes, please.

I'll have an hard time hearing.

Name is Robert A.

Edwards.

Address is 3143 South Illinois Avenue.

Okay.

Thank you.

Mr.

Cooney, are there any holds?

No, Chair.

Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

No police report.

Okay, and this is for a loading zone in the 14th Automatic District.

Um you want to share this.

Yeah.

Excuse me.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

Um we'll go to the Otter Woman.

I just have this.

Uh Otterwoman Dmitrievich.

Oh, before we do that, let's let's introduce before that.

So take you take your time.

We'll we'll get through all of the evidence that you're presenting.

Okay.

Yes, please.

Sorry.

Uh go ahead, Otterwoman Dmitrievich.

Okay, thank you.

Um yes, we have supported this loading zone in the past due to the medical letter that was provided uh by the person in need, the constituent.

Um however, our office um has received a number of complaints about the use of it.

And including driving on the grass, and then it might need to be modified and made smaller.

Um there was anywhere from three to four complaints.

So we did have to uh have a go to committee um and we'll await some of the testimony, but generally when someone uh does have a verified medical illness, um we tend to want to accommodate that.

So that's why we're here today, madam chair.

Okay, thank you.

Or woman to meet you just for the clarification.

Okay.

So I'm gonna go to neighbors there.

Are there any questions from committee?

Um, I just wanted to make sure I'm looking in the file right now, madam chair.

There is a verify uh verified medical excuse, correct?

Yes, there is chair, yeah.

Okay, thank you.

Licenses.

Um and then how how large is the is the um loading zone?

This is a standard 30-foot loading zone.

So that's standard by an accessible okay.

That was 30 feet.

All right.

And I'm sorry, did the Alder Woman say that she's looking for it to be reduced?

Is it is that the minimum is that the minimum um footage?

Uh thirty feet is is the standard footage for uh disabled loading zone.

Okay.

That's determined by DPW.

Uh thank you.

Um on the initial application.

Thank you, Jim Cooney.

And then last question, Madam Chair.

What are the hours of the loading zone?

Uh give me one moment, I can look that up for you.

Uh it's 24-7.

All right.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you.

Aren't you Margellis?

Did you have something?

Oh, Aren Brower.

Yeah, I've got a question.

Um I'm just looking in some of these documents and some of the stuff that the applicant uh brought us here.

Um just to clarify, uh, Mr.

Cooney.

So when we um give a lo you're it's not like you're saying that we give a loading zone, you know, we're guarding a disability, it's uh standard 30 feet, and I had a fault question into that.

Uh that's correct.

Okay, yeah.

Yeah, but we don't have but like we don't we don't have I mean, just maybe for my own identification here, um, because I've been told by DPW we don't, so let's clarify this right now that we don't we do not have um except for some spots downtown and we've not installed a uh handicapped only, I mean this is not a handicapped parking spot in a residential block.

This is a loading zone.

Okay, then all the other loading zone laws apply here that it is for active loading and unloading only.

Um that you know anybody can use this loading zone to actively load and unload, it is not specifically reserved for a specific individual or business.

Is that correct?

That's correct.

So that's what our ordinances say, right?

Yeah, it's not a parking spot, it is a loading zone, and it is um the city's policy that the loading zone is available to anyone to use during active loading and unloading.

Okay, thank you.

Just want to make sure that we're clear because I know in some of these it says um looks like olderman to bear which was looking for a disabled loading zone, but that doesn't mean it's a handicapped parking spot.

That's correct.

This just means that when they say disabled loading zone, that's just the length of the loading zone then that's installed.

Um it or is that is that a term of art or what um can we clarify that?

Oh, it changes the field.

Yeah.

Okay, thank you.

I just want a clarification.

Thank you.

Um, Mr.

Edwards, did you want to speak briefly before we go to neighbors?

Before we go to neighbors to who are gonna testify.

The reason we're here is for objections.

So those are mounted and will be forwarded.

So yeah.

Well, we'd be more than happy to address any of the objections.

I don't know.

When we were issued this, we went through the uh marina I I gave you.

My wife is uh one of the each document.

I mean, this could have been about a good half an inch thick.

I I pulled out what I felt were the bullet points.

Um I did not when I first decided that I needed something for my husband, he is terminally ill.

He's living longer than they expected them to, but unfortunately the radiation that they used to is brain, everybody is affected differently.

In his case, it hit his balance and and his left arm.

One second.

Just for the we we have medical necessity in the record.

I you know, uh, it's probably okay.

But I I we I understand it and I understand I didn't want anything violated as far as HIPAA goes.

Okay.

I was a 45-year nurse.

I understand this.

However, I don't think the complainants have the slightest clue what this has done to my husband.

They see him doing this or they see him doing that, but the fact still remains I give him 24 supervision, 20 at 24-7 supervision.

And with his balance, he can't even walk without a cane, and that is gonna progress.

That is going to progress.

So but we'll go to the to neighbors, Ms.

Edwards, and then we'll come back so you can close.

Oh okay.

All right.

Um are there any neighbors here present and wish to testify?

Okay.

So everyone who wish to testify, please raise your right hand to be sworn in.

Do you saw any from an independent penalties of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give?

Is it true the whole truth and a few mother truth?

Thank you.

Uh and although if you're here in opposition, you can come to the standing mic, you'll be given two and a half minutes to speak your uh your name and your address first, and then you go into your remarks.

So the first person can come up to the standing mic.

Two and a half minutes, you're giving you your name and address.

Good morning, Connie Bowley, B-O-L-L-E.

I live at 3140 South Illinois, directly across the street.

I did um bring some photos that I took this morning just before 8 a.m.

just to kind of show so you guys can get a visual.

Like that.

I did just dot drop down a couple of notes, but our street is a very short street, South Illinois Avenue.

There's a total of 19 homes on the area that we're discussing today.

Of those 19 homes, four of them are multifamily dwellings.

So duplexes, rentals with additional people.

There's also three parking garages on it that have park it, parking, you know, alleys that you can't park in front of, and also three fire hydrants.

So it already impacts, of course, those 19 homes on this very short street.

Um when I started receiving frustrations with people coming to see me to see my husband who was actually in hospice care, uh, not in palliative care.

Um we were able to not request a 30-foot loading zone.

We used our backyard, our back area.

We have a garage, and so do the tenants that are um renting that dwelling that is having a 30-foot um, they have a fully accessible garage with a flat sidewalk that's clearly accessible for them to be able to load and unload.

That's what that's what I did.

Um I understand really intimately um palliative care versus hospice care.

And palliative care is for anybody that has a serious illness at any stage.

Hospice care is you have six months or less.

I have never witnessed any palliative medical care items being delivered by any sort of truck to their location on this um public street, and if they do have it'd be nice, I'm sure they have all of the receipts of daily and weekly deliveries that are coming.

The only time I see that loading zone used for them is for them unloading their personal groceries and items like that.

And so I feel that they are using this to block off a very large percentage when you look at those photos that I showed you of street access 24-7 for someone that might get a delivery, which I I've never seen any sort of health care delivery.

I myself have had to have um a bed, oxygen, all different things delivered, and I never once uh requested a loading zone.

I feel that I'm in opposition to this because if every street was allowed to have 30 feet loading zones, sorry, and that's time, thank you.

Then we run out of space.

No, you can stay up there for questions.

Okay, uh, does it do committee members have any questions for this witness?

Uh autopers I'm repo.

Thank you for your testimony.

So you never see the uh applicant using the space, the parking space to get into a vehicle so he can go to appointments or anything like that?

Yes, he's the one driving.

He's always driving when he does that.

He picks up his wife.

He's very able and and willing to drive, and he drives all the time.

Okay, and then um, and over overnight they're part is it your testimony that you see them parking in there.

Do you have a garage?

No, they don't park there.

My testimony is against that they don't have deliveries, so why do they need a loading zone?

But I'm just curious.

Do you see them using their garage?

Are they parking their car over here?

His car in the garage, I believe, every night.

It's never in front of the house.

And then um, is it a densely populated block?

Do you have is parking precious then?

It is because it is a one-way street, and again, there's only 19 homes, nine on one side and ten on the other, and then those garages that take away, you know, parking spots there too, and of course, fire hydrants, which we love.

Okay, thank you.

You're welcome.

Any other questions?

Any other questions from committee for this witness?

Any questions from the applicant for this witness?

Uh question.

She's open to cross-examination from you folks.

Do you have any questions for her?

Oh, I well, I I was just listening to you say how you provided for your husband with hospice, and you're not seeing us being provided with with anything.

Because Robert is not in the hospice bed at this time.

Do you have a question?

Well, well, it we do get a lot of deliveries, and my question for you would be how do you know what we do and don't get?

We get everything, Amazon and UPS because there's a lot of things that we we are not able to just get up and go get.

Can you present receipts of actual medical supplies that are being delivered daily or weekly?

Oh, yeah.

Questions and responses.

Okay, questions and responses.

Thank you.

This is in the 14th Automatic District.

Other Automan Demetrivis, you have any questions for this witness?

Um this is uh I okay.

This is a challenging situation.

My question would be for the witness.

Do you do you think having one parking spot, which is what they basically have?

I mean, it's just like one spot.

Is is one spot okay on the street No, I do not feel like it because it's already so hindered with parking.

They have to be a good one.

I guess my question would be like do you like should you get one spot?

I mean, I guess our our public streets are for everybody, and if if each person can have approximately one spot, so I'm just trying to understand because I'd rather us not get into receipts and deliveries and like I I want us to lead with empathy here.

Um and I'm trying to find a resolution.

So I'm trying to understand what it is, like how how what under what scenario would this be acceptable to you and some of the nearby neighbors?

I mean, it's that's that's what I'd like to understand.

Yeah, I feel that um that that loading zone does not need to be on such a short street that they can access from their garage like the rest of the residents do.

Uh um all the homeowners use their garage and access that way, and these tenants take up 30 feet um occasionally.

Okay, thanks, madam chair.

Thank you.

Thank you there, please.

It's questions.

So next uh objector, you can come up.

Cite your name and address.

Your testimony we give in two and a half minutes.

Okay.

Ursula Newark, U R S A L A N E U W I R T H.

I live at 3137 South Illinois.

Um I just wrote it down because postpartum, my brain.

Um, since this loading zone was installed, it's been an inconvenience to many homeowners on the street, including myself, as well as visiting family, friends, and workers.

Um the tenants who have the loading zone have called the city innumerable times in the past several years to report various people parked in the loading zone.

More times than I can count, I've had to run out of my home to tell people not to park there or to try to talk the parking enforcer out of giving tickets.

On one occasion, the parking enforcer asked if I knew who the car belonged to because they were really hesitant to tick it for such a minor issue.

Luckily it was our neighbor's father visiting from out of town, and we were able to alert him to move his car as to avoid a 40 dollar fine.

Just a few months ago, the loading zone applicants called the city again, this time on me, and I was issued a 40 dollar ticket for parking in the loading zone.

I was in fact parked in front of my own home and maybe with a few inches of my bumper past the marker for the loading zone.

I was parked this way because the city deposited about eight inches of slush that turned directly into ice in front of our walkway.

I was eight months pregnant, I was not able to shovel it by myself with my husband at work for 24 and 48 hours.

Um so I needed to pull forward to shovel space from the sidewalk to get my three-year-old and my pregnant self to my car safely.

Um in no way was my parking that day impeding any car or truck from using the loading zone.

If the purpose of the loading zone and why it was issued is for the tenants to bring equipment and supplies in and out of the home, and my parking was in no way impeding that.

Why did they call the city that day?

The loading zone is at least two car lengths long, as we've spoken about.

There's ample room for a car to even a truck to access that parking zone when I was issued my ticket.

We've lived next to these neighbors for over eight years.

They know our cars, they have our phone numbers.

I do not understand why they needed to call and make sure that we had to pay a ticket instead of just asking us to move our car if they needed to use the space.

This leads me to believe that the applicants are weaponizing the loading zone as a way to antagonize neighbors or other unsuspecting people who are unfamiliar with our neighborhood.

The day I got the ticket, I was leaving for a doctor's appointment for my pregnancy and ran into the parking enforcer when she arrived.

She told me the applicants had called in the account complaint and she had to give me the ticket, but she told me to contest it because I was barely in the loading zone and that it would likely be excused.

Um please just stay up there.

Does the committee do any committee members have questions for this witness?

Uh owner for um I just so you used it to unload and and you were given a ticket, or you were there, you were hanging out in front of my own home.

Okay.

And then the applicant call called and complained, and you're ticketed.

Did you dispute it or you did?

You did.

It was not excused.

All right.

When I went to I I was feeling very upset about this.

Um so I tried to what is it called?

When you like want to if it's not excused and you want to contest it, I tried to continue to contest it, and they gave me a court date um a week after my due date.

So I just ended up paying it because the stress and like energy on it.

I was just like, all right, I'm not gonna go through with this.

It's it's they make it a very inconvenient.

All right.

Thank you for your testimony today.

Hold on, you're still uh does the applicant have any questions for this witness?

Questions only.

Yeah, that day in question that her vehicle was parked a little bit into the loading zone.

I agree with that.

And there was also a lot of things.

Is that the question?

Yeah, there was also a moving truck sort of south of it that was in the loading zone.

Okay, so they were both impeding a loading zone.

Uh woman Demetriovich, you have a question for this witness?

Um, I'm I'm trying to understand the situation, and I guess my question was she believed because she she reached out to our office too, which is why we had a four of this, that you believe, ma'am, that you were actively loading and unloading?

Because I do want to remind everybody, this is uh not a private loading zone, it's just for active loading and unloading if I understand it.

And you believe, ma'am, that you were loading and unloading, right?

No, I do not believe that I was loading or unloading.

I was parking.

I was parked in front of my own home, and I had to pull up because of the ice situation so that I could actually park there and get safely in and out of my car.

I was about to leave for an appointment and had a small, small part of my car that was in part of the loading zone.

Okay, and in that in that short amount of time, is that when uh the applicant called parking enforcement?

Yes.

Okay.

Okay, I think we're getting a a little better picture of things going on here.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you.

Uh thank you.

Uh next witness.

You can so I cite your name and address or give in two and a half minutes.

Hi, my name is Tyler Lindstead.

I live at 3137 South Illinois Avenue.

Um, right next door.

I'm the homeowner with my wife versus here.

Uh basically the big thing is uh, yeah, it's become quite an issue for parking on our streets, specifically for us.

It's been issues loading and loading our children, things like that.

The real problem that we're having is not negating that they needed it at one point here.

They did.

They have the paperwork, we have all that stuff.

The issue is we're starting to notice that it doesn't seem like the need is there, and what we've been witnessing is backing the car up onto the front lawn, just using it to drop his wife off at the door, drive around to the back to park in his parking.

He has a two-car garage he parks in just them.

Rest of us are struggling with parking on the street.

And it's sort of like, okay, we understand there's a need.

Is there still such a need for a loading zone in general right there?

And then on top of that, now when I invite my friends and family over, I have to be very careful to make sure to tell them, hey, don't park in the loan zone, don't go near the loading zone.

Make sure you're not crossed into it because they will call the city.

And they've done it the tenants there have done it multiple times.

Other people can testify to that.

I've gone out and gone, oh crap, my car is like you know, inches over, and I make sure back it up, make sure I'm out of the space because I'm just like don't I don't want to mess with that.

And it's kind of getting to a point.

It's like, how much do we have to keep doing like how much longer are we gonna keep doing this juggle rigma roll?

And like I get it's now very convenient for them, but it's been very inconvenient to all the homeowners directly around them, and then kind of keeps moving up the street because if like parking at all gets messed up, now it becomes a huge issue.

And so that's kind of the meat and potatoes of it, is like thank you.

Oh yeah.

Um does the committee have any questions for this witness?

Madam Chair.

Uh auto brings Amaripo.

What would you think if there was a compromise?

I see that the applicant has this for 24 hours, 24-7.

What if he were to um agree to only have it from seven to 7 a.m.

to 5 p.m.?

Would that be helpful?

I mean, it's a start, but in reality, they have a two-car garage.

First floor flat, easy pathway.

They take up a two-car garage with one car.

Now they want another space on the street.

No, no, you can't.

He's kind of just one of those, and we're wondering like what is the necessity here to keep kind of like messing with the street parking on the street.

Screwing with all the other homeowners around them, and it's like, yeah, I understand that they didn't need this.

We're totally understanding that.

Like nobody, that's why nobody's been contesting it till now, but it's becoming problematic for us, and it's been continuing to be a problem.

And now we're like the only thing we've seen them use it for is literally to back up onto their front lawn to unload their car and to drop off one person and park in the back.

So I'm kind of just like, doesn't seem like there's a necessity for it anymore.

And I think even reducing it is like great.

The time great.

It's not a very inviting environment now.

Like it's a little embarrassing how to do that.

And um, it's your testimony that the witness has a two-car garage.

The applicant has a two-car garage.

I was a long time.

That is a two-car, actually, I believe it's a two and a half car garage that is in the back of the property.

Uh I mean, mind you, I'm no zoning guy, so you guys would know a little more about the square footage if you measure it, but I'm pretty sure that's a two and a half car garage, and I know the other tenants in the property don't get to park in there because they've never no other tenants have ever parked there, which is also created parking issues because now we have whoever lives in the upper unit, they park on the street because they're not access to the parking garage, and they also don't have access in front of their property.

So, where do you think they park?

In front of the neighbors' houses.

So now our parking is getting messed up, and they it's like kind of just getting to be this thing where it's just kind of been this big brigamer roll lately, and it's like, okay, is this still really necessary?

We still getting this many deliveries.

Amazon comes down my street all day long.

They're delivering packages of all size, FedEx, UPS.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any other questions from committee?

Questions from Otto Mundrevich for this witness.

Thank you.

Uh quite questions from the applicant for this witness.

Sorry, recording questions only.

I can ask a question to you.

Yes, sir.

Okay, Father, do you guys have a garage?

We do, actually, Bob.

Okay.

We're not here to contest our garage over here to talk about my garage, are we?

Well, we're talking about my garage, which is a two-car garage.

I park in one side of it.

The other side belongs to the tenants that live upstairs.

They have it filled with whatever they furniture, a motorcycle, whatever.

That's up to them.

But the the garage is there.

Okay.

These folks have a garage.

Questions?

Madam Chair.

Okay, so we're gonna go.

Thank you.

We'll go to our next witness in opposition.

Is there someone else in there?

Okay.

Uh Roxanne, are you here in opposition?

Yes, I am.

Okay.

Were you sworn in?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah, raise your right hand to be sworn in, please.

I'll do some.

Do you tell me if you're on the defensive penalties of burger of the state of Wisconsin that the design about the give is it true to hold your end of the book?

Yes.

Uh you have just said your name and address for the record, and you'll be given two and a half minutes.

Okay, my name is Roxanne Ciadi.

I live at 3146 South Illinois Avenue across the street from the um area.

I did write something up, so I'll be reading it.

Um Illinois Avenue is a one-way street with limited parking on the west side of the street, the side on which Mr.

Edwards has the posted loading zone.

And this is due not only to the fact that there are many rental properties, but at either end of Illinois Avenue, there are two car driveways.

So that takes away space there too.

Um, and during from December through March, there is one sided parking.

So that means, and they park on the west side, which is the street, Mr.

Um Edwards has the loading zone.

So, which also increases the problem with parking.

When um it was first added, I assumed it was because of Mr.

Edwards' health issues, which we all the neighbors knew about, and we were accepting about that.

Um, however, it has it has become weaponized.

I myself have been impacted.

Um, my husband has Parkinson's disease, and I have caregivers who were coming in.

Um one one evening when a caregiver came, it he got a ticket, and I went out there to talk to the ticketing officer, and he said he has to move it, and um he he was also threatened.

Then the ticket giver said he could get his car towed, so I sent him out.

I came back in to take care of my husband, sent the caregiver out, and um he was threatened by the ticket taker that our ticket, the person giving the ticket that he would have his car towed on two other instances.

I had friends over in the evening, and they did not notice the loading zone um signs.

I I they don't look for residential parking zones, so it they are loading zones, so that made it difficult.

Both of those people received 40 dollar tickets too.

Um it just to me I have seen people go to the Edwards home and park their car there.

They do not sit in the car.

Okay, Miss Roxanne, that's time.

Okay, thank you.

I'm just gonna ask the committee if they have any questions for Roxanne.

Can I ask the same one, Madam Chair?

Would you be amenable if the applicant agreed to amend the application?

Because I do agree a 24-hour loading zone is not necessary.

Something shorter, like 7 a.m.

to 5 p.m., 7 a.m.

to 7 p.m.

I do not believe, I do not believe they need a loading zone.

Um I I also get deliveries because my husband has Parkinson's disease and um needs 24-hour care.

I do not understand why you would be calling the police as soon as people park there.

Sometimes people don't realize it.

I realize it's it there's signs there, but we might not notice it.

And Mr.

Edwards is often looking out his door, watching.

I don't know how come the ticket takers come so quickly, or ticket givers.

We were wondering.

We don't have parking enforcement driving up and down the street all the time, so they're being called.

Yes, thank you very much.

I appreciate your asking.

Uh any questions from Auto Woman Dmitrievich's office for this witness.

Um, none at this time, thank you.

Any questions from the applicant for this witness?

Any questions?

Your pro okay.

Can I address your proposal?

Question, do you have any questions for this witness?

No, okay.

Thank you.

All right, so we will go to now witnesses uh in favor.

So if you are in favor, um you can come to the standing mic.

You'll be given two and a half minutes.

You're right.

Um you've already been sworn in, just said your name and address.

Cheryl Litke, L U E D K E, and I live at 3135 South Illinois Avenue.

And go ahead.

Two houses north of Mr.

Edwards.

I I haven't noticed any problems with the parking.

I mean, anybody who parks, the people here who have garages don't park in their garages.

The people who park on the street are all parked in front of their house.

So I don't know.

I've never seen a time where they are parked two, three blocks away from the house because they can't park in front of their own house.

Um, so my mom has had therapy.

Is there something wrong?

No.

Okay.

Yeah.

My mom has had therapy.

They've come over and I've asked them to please watch for the parking.

Don't park in the no parking zone.

They've always been able to park.

There's plenty of spots on our side of the street that is the only side you can park on during winter months for people to park.

And I see that my neighbors are always parked in front of their house, always.

So I don't really see a problem with it.

Okay, thank you.

Uh, does the committee have any questions for this witness?

Any questions for this witness?

Um, I do only because I lost signal for a second.

This witness, does this witness reside nearby?

I'm sorry, I missed that part.

Yes, uh, three three houses.

Two houses north, Mr.

Edwards.

Okay, thank you so much.

Thank you.

All right.

Applicant, do you have any questions for this witness?

Yeah, okay.

I I do Cheryl.

Oh please use the microphone.

Use the microphone.

Yes.

So loud normally.

Okay.

You are so close to us.

One house in between us and you, and you are very well aware all the time, pretty much when you're home of what's going on on um on our street.

Have you ever seen Bob and I deny somebody that has wanted to use that loading zone for something?

Whether it's Tyler unloading his camping gear, whether it's Tyler unloading his surfing equipment, whether you name it.

People have pulled up there and wanted to do things, and we have never denied them with Connie when her husband was dying, and we came home from an appointment, and I saw the hospice nurse back for the second time.

So I knew what that meant.

Being a nurse myself, I knew what that meant.

He passed away.

So we'll give her a chance to answer your question.

What was your qu did you had a question for her?

I'm sorry.

She's asked if you had seen Oh, I thought she said no when I asked her.

Okay.

Did you have another question?

Yeah.

I in it was for Connie.

Your sister came out and asked if the hospice nurse could park there without any problem.

And and what did I tell you?

What did I tell you?

Ms.

Edwards, Ms.

Edwards.

Mrs.

Edwards.

You can't ask her questions anymore.

You only had could ask her questions while she was up there.

So you have any questions for this witness?

No.

Anymore?

Okay, thank you.

I I don't know this all goes, so I have to do that.

You'll have a closing statement.

You also want to speak.

Are you also testifying?

Ma'am.

Yes.

I just saw you had your hand raised when we you were sworn in.

Is this the last witness, madam chair?

Yes.

My name is Carolitge, 313 South Illinois Avenue.

I live in the upper duplex.

I see a a lot all the time.

Um and I never see they have any problem parking.

Never.

And I've had stuff delivered to my house.

Uh I've had a refrigerator and they park in the loading zone.

There's never any problems.

I've had people come for a week, and they avoid that spot and they never have any problem.

That's all I gotta say.

Thank you.

Any questions from committee for this witness?

Madam Chair.

Honor President.

So you're you live you're a tenant of theirs?

No, she lives.

My daughter and I own a duplex.

Thank you for in between.

Thank you.

Uh Honorman Dimitrievich, any questions for this witness?

Oh, you're still opening up.

No, thank you.

Applicant, do you have any questions for his witness?

Yes, Carol.

She sat down already.

Use the microphone.

Can you start to ask your question, ma'am?

Can you start to ask your question?

Carol, has there ever been a situation when you have known or seen of Bob denying anybody to utilize that parking zone for a special need they had and um either wanted to unload something or pick somebody up?

Have you ever seen us deny that?

Never.

You're always polite and kind to everybody.

All right.

Thank you.

Okay.

That all witnesses, yes.

Um R Member Gallus.

Can we do a couple questions before they their closing statement?

Oh, yeah, go ahead.

Thank you.

Um you mentioned a couple times during questions of uh uh neighbors that you allowed someone to park there or you denied someone or you never denied anyone to park there.

Um are you responsible for enforcing who puts the vehicle in a loading zone or not?

No, absolutely not.

I don't feel that way.

I'm just saying if I would say spring, summer, fall are big seasons for the two of us to be outside, and so it's right in front of us and we see it.

So I do we manage to be able to do that.

But are you but you're but you're you're giving me the impression that you're policing the park the loading zone.

You're permitting people to park there, you're not denying someone to use it.

That's wrong.

It's a public street, it belongs to everyone uh and not just whose houses in front of it.

Public parking is public parking, public loading zones are public loading zones.

Right?

Can I interject on that?

Sure.

Yes, it is a loading zone, and we're fully aware of it.

Anyone can park there if they're loading or unloading.

That was the understanding when we got the the zone.

Right.

Um how how many times a day do you use the loading zone?

That's hard to say what's a week to use the loading zone.

It depends on appointments, it depends on what we need to do.

It varies.

Okay, so I'm I'm looking for a number or a range.

Oh my gosh.

But we use it during the daytime.

Night time.

There are big time work.

So we're going over.

So um would you would it be in convenient would it be a burden on you to have a loading zone from 7 a.m.

to 5 p.m.?

Well, we talked about this, and we never understood why that wasn't the case when the city came to put the signage in.

We were just told it's gonna happen on this day, and it was April 6th, 2022.

We had an appointment, we came home, there are the signs where we were not told about anything.

About the timeage or the the 24 hour nature of it.

Okay.

Would you would you be willing to amend your application for the loading zone to 7 a.m.

to 5 p.m.?

Seven days a week.

I would say six because sometimes our appointments can run late for him.

Seven seven a.m.

to six p.m.

You'd be willing to amend your application for that time period.

Can I interject something?

Well, yeah, I mean I I'm asking if you'd do something or not.

Can we ask the uh pilot?

No.

You need work for what time?

No.

This is as between you and the committee, not as between testifying witnesses.

No, because I know he's I know he goes to work, and I'm just trying to accommodate the neighbors.

I'm not trying to get hostile with the neighbors.

I want to accommodate with the time time limits on it.

Well, if you call parking enforcement when someone's four inches over the line, that can be seen as a hostile action.

Right, I understand that, and I apologize for that.

Okay.

Um so would you be willing to amend your application from 7 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

I would see 8 a.m.

How about we go 8 a.m.?

8 a.m.

loading zone from 8 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

Yes.

All right, madam chair, I'll move to amend the application from 8 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

So the motion by Autumn Member Gallas is to amend the plan of oh no to amend the application to reflect uh 8 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

loading zone.

Uh any objections to that motion hearing and seeing none, so ordered I'm sure um Brouwer.

Yeah, if Peter, if you were done with ears, I I I had some other questions here.

Because I just um yeah, well, first of all, um what was given with an objection was some photographs that I just want to confirm um of uh you guys looks like a vehicle is pulled up onto the to the grass.

Are you guys loading and unloading groceries on your lawn on a regular basis?

What yeah, we were what we did was okay because with the water the way it is, the water situation, we would buy we buy cases of water, and it's just easier just backing up to the front and unloading it there.

I was not aware of it, and that's my that's on me.

I was not aware that that is against the law.

You cannot cross the sidewalk.

So so you'll you'll r rigorously enforce a loading zone, which is the law, and then violate the law when it comes to where you park your vehicle.

Which oh no, no, I was right there with the vehicle.

Okay, you can be actually can we get confirmation?

Is it legal to pull a vehicle on the your front lawn on this?

I'm not gonna confirm it.

Okay, the owner of the property got notice on it.

They informed us.

I think it was on January 6th or January 7th, and it is not being done anymore.

Okay, and I apologize for that.

That's and the only reason why we were doing it is to shorten that distance between this the back of our car, which is where all our water and grocery goes, shorten the distance, so he would have less to put, I I mean, from the back onto the porch.

It it made it much easier to get those things inside.

That makes sense.

The um I did look at I'm looking at the property here on GIS.

Um it looks like when I use the measuring tool from the city's GIS page, if you take a line from approximately the middle of the garage to the back door on including walking up the porch.

Um, you know, if the vehicles parked approximately in the middle of the garage to the back porch, um that is approximately 36 feet, and then from the curb to including the porch to potentially a front door, that's also 36 feet.

So what advantage in distance does using a loading zone give you versus parking in your garage?

The garage is unsafe for him to walk in in the first place.

Um we don't have anybody, I believe, that's gonna put the money into doing the repairs, and I cannot afford to have him falling.

So we knew that right from the beginning.

It was just not a wise decision to use come from the garage to the house.

Okay, are you using the garage then currently or yes?

We parked at the car here.

Okay, yeah.

Oh, so then the loading zone would be loading like for unloading and unloading things that you guys have in your vehicle then.

Is that that's what the safety issues regarding the garage?

Yes.

Okay.

That's those are my questions, thank you.

And it also gives him it also gives him the option under his insurance plan and his diagnosis, it gives him the option of calling for pickup.

If he is and if I could just briefly tell you please, yeah.

Driving is one of the few um pleasures this man has left, considering what all has gone on with him.

And so I'm not gonna take that away from him, but there it is.

There it is.

Thank you, thank you, Ms.

I mean I I just I just heard these comments about him backing me up and dropping me off he doesn't do that I get out of the car I heard the report that he uh takes me somewhere and drops no it's not true okay thank you Ms.

I worked everything to committee okay we're in committee of the committee have a motion did we want to give them an opportunity to make a closing statement I thought they did okay now all right um I well not yet but I'll I'll move uh approval as amended okay for a period of one year that's too it's a two year lesson it's a certain license it's a two year license okay there's no shortening then chair on discussion okay I I'm gonna reluctantly support oh I did you finish it I'm sorry did you finish your motion so the motion that's got it Renault as amended yeah I'm gonna reluctantly support Aldermember Gallus's motion I do think that you should have concluded it at 5 p.m at minimum but I will reluctantly support this motion and we'll see what happens um if in two years if the neighbors want to come back and continue the dialogue thank you mad chair mad chair uh honoring brower yeah I'll also I'll support this motion as well I just want to make a comment the like I think we've gotten some stuff out in the open unfortunately it looks like a neighborhood dispute has come to the committee here I would just you know encourage the applicants to you know like treat your neighbors with the grace that you ext that you are asking this committee and the entire city of Milwaukee by granting you this space the grace I mean you know four inches over the line to call is is completely unreasonable for your neighbor sounds I'm making a comment right now so the yeah the um so that that's just that's just completely unreasonable and and we don't you know like obviously I guess yes by a technicality they were violating the law but then also by a technicality you're violing violating the law when you pull under the grass on your on your yard as well so everybody's doing something wrong so we should just all try to get along as best we can here in this situation thanks thank you Honor Brower the motion by Honor Member Gellis was approval as amended um are there any objections to motion hearing and saying not so ordered thank you good luck next up on our 1045 a.m agenda we have Sharon Wesselhoff agent for Dollar Tree Stores Incorporated food dealer license renewal application with change of agent for Dollar Tree number 4823 at 355 South Howell Avenue is Sharon Wesselhoff present okay thank you for things I like oh sorry if you can change your appearance for the record attorney Zachary of Kimball Riley Guerrin and Brown thank you are your receiving notes of today is a meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied I am okay Mr.

any holds uh no sergeant is there a police report no police report what is this dollar tree can't change on the fly 1045 okay then again okay um you're gonna see more that's the problem okay so we are here scheduled for objections are there any neighbors present who wish to testify I'm here I got you I got you are there any neighbors in the room present who wish to testify at all for Dollar Tree okay any colleague here to testify I am yes um here for anyone else on the board here to testify for family dollar we have um dollar tree dollar tree dollar tree the the district manager Justin Hampton is also on the okay uh Colin and uh the district manager for Dollar Tree can you please raise Justin can you raise your right hand to be scoring the U Sony from an independent penalty subverger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true to hold to it and I'll give it the truth I need verbal confirmation for Colin and Justin you have to verbally say yes can't hear Justin who said that I don't know justin and Colin we couldn't hear either of you can I get you guys hear me yeah can I get verbal confirmation from Colin yep and then justin confirm me okay he said confirm me.

Justin we're we have a problem with your mic the next one is mine though.

My mic's working.

Okay.

So we will um we can recognize that Justin affirmed, but he we still can't hear you.

So work on that.

We're taking uh neighborhood testimony.

So Colin, can you please just state your name and address for the record?

You're gonna be given uh two and a half minutes to testify.

Sir uh Colin Gazinski, 3550 South Howell Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53207.

And go ahead, Carlin.

So uh may remember me from last year, um Zach and and Justin.

Um I'm sure you remember me.

Um I I will say that you know the conditions of the Dollar Tree has improved um since their shutdown uh this time last year.

Justin has been extremely responsive, and I appreciate that.

Um you know, issues that me and surrounding and additional neighbors have had.

Um, you know, he's opened up his his uh his availability and and accessibility to us, which again I appreciate.

I I do feel like the managers there um uh over the last you know 10 to 12 months have made a difference in the uh condition of the exterior of the property.

Um but uh we still have had issues um with garbage uh overflowing, um garbage you know, not attended to within the parking lot.

Um and I you know certainly again not in the same state as I was last year when I was physically present.

Um but I I think that it is still something that you know me and and additional neighbors are are having to police.

We talked about this uh previously, calling Justin or having to take the time out of our our schedule to reach out to management, uh considering uh or regarding excuse me the condition of of the property is is not our job.

Um so again, while I do appreciate the fact that there has been some improvement, I I still think there's some room left to continue improving.

Uh there hasn't been anything done with the the landscaping.

There's been a fence put around the dumpster, which um you know I think uh uh has is helped a little bit with garbage just falling out of that.

But um I I just I want to make sure that the committee knows that our neighbor uh uh that may not be present here are are spoken on behalf of um and that you know our concerns are are you know listened to and um taken with uh heavy consideration uh to keep the property uh in in good standing condition, interior and exterior.

Um it's affecting the neighborhood uh and the values of these properties surrounding it.

So it's a six billion dollar corporation.

There's no reason why neighbors should have to um uh continue to police the the conditions of the property again, Justin.

I do appreciate your availability and responsiveness, um, but uh I'm not here just because I didn't have anything else to do.

And thank you, Colin.

Uh is there any question are there any questions from committee for this witness?

Any questions from the applicant for this witness?

And thanks for coming again, Colin.

Um I know you've you've spoken with Justin.

Um my question is are there certain times of day that you're noticing the trash more than others?

I know you're not there all day, but we're just trying to come up with a solution on on when maybe this is happening or when it's being missed.

Yeah, I think it's throughout the day.

Um, you know, I think the the staff has been certainly better about you know doing a nighttime cleanup.

Um but you know, there's unfortunately for them, and and you know, I I do feel bad for these employees, but you know, there's people that are parking there throughout the day that are just emptying out their cars with trash.

Um, you know, it's negligent and and inconsiderate, and again, it's not the employees' fault, but it you know, it is their responsibility to you know monitor the condition of the parking lot throughout the day and the garbages, and so I I think um you know, throughout the day there should be somebody just combing the exterior of the building to make sure that garbage is not accumulating.

Thank you.

And when you have talked to Justin, has have your issues been addressed quickly?

They have, yeah.

And I again I really greatly appreciate it, Justin.

It's it's been a pleasure working with you.

Um, you know, since we've we've made contact.

So I'm I'm not neglecting to acknowledge that.

Um it it does mean a lot, and that's better than you know the responsiveness I've gotten over the years and and my neighbors as well.

So it does not go unnoticed.

I appreciate it.

That's all I have, Colin.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Otherwoman Dmitrievich, do you have any questions for this witness?

Is she still in there?

Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Uh okay.

Yeah, and I I or if Justin would like to I will make some comments, and I guess if Justin wants to say anything or something.

Yeah, Justin, did you want to um give some closing statements about yes?

I actually I actually would like to.

Um, how's it going, Colin?

So Colin, everything Colin stated for the most part, right?

Um working with Colin has been great.

Um I did open my line for the neighbors, like Colin and Linda to give me a call if anything arrives.

Um I do my best to rectify any issue uh immediately for for the neighbors, right?

Um the one thing I will say is uh like Colin stated, uh we have improved over since last year.

Um is there opportunities?

Yeah, still look still some opportunities to be better, right?

Uh from the standard of of being outside uh uh the outside standard and trash.

Um, however, right, um, like I stated to Linda in a response in the email, you know, um we're working to get the overnight trash.

It sounds like Colin from Colin and Linda is a little a bit conflicting, right?

Um Linda was sending sending pictures of before the store even opens and any uh associate arrived.

So it looks like to me from uh us digging in a bit, it looks like it's some overnight debris being dunked in uh in the in the parking lot that um partnering with our home office to rectify uh immediately in the neighborhood.

Um other than other than that, I think like I say, we're we're doing great we're taking straight great strides to uh be a better neighbor uh in the community.

Okay, thank you, Justin.

And I'll just add a couple things briefly.

I like it.

What's been noted, this store has improved, I think greatly since last year.

Uh they're continuing their two days or two times a day cleaning.

Uh they also have a company that comes from April to November.

Um they're picking up light debris in the landscaping, trimming and weeding.

There's very little landscaping at this store, but they come from April November.

They come 26 times during that period, and then there's also a weekly porter service uh and and parking lot sweeping that comes once a week.

Um and I I just want to emphasize I think Justin here has been a great leader for Dollar Tree.

Uh he's very active with the neighbors and in reaching out to the to the alder woman's office and the other elders that have Dollar Trees in the location.

He tries to follow up monthly or or bi-monthly at the worst to see if there's any um concerns for the Dollar Tree that can be addressed.

So I think this is greatly improved.

There are things to continue to work on.

Uh so I'd ask for approval.

God, okay, thank you.

We are in committee.

Does committee have a motion?

I'm sure we're going to be able to do that.

Um, before we go into committee, uh, what were the things that uh were agreed upon um when the license was suspended last year?

Uh it was the two times per cleaning or two uh cleanings per day.

Yes, per day, uh monthly check-ins with the alderman's office and continued contact or communication with the district manager with the elders and and neighbors.

Yeah, and I see from Google Maps you can see the landscaping company in the parking lot actively taking care of the landscaping that neighbors were concerned about last year.

Yeah, there are no photos uh about that.

When I do drive by, I I do take a peek at this property because of our um call it uh intense discussions and um license renewal last year.

Um the fence is up around the uh trash bins.

That's my understanding, yes.

And then what is the plan for landscaping?

Uh that was what is the plan for landscaping that was committed to last year?

The the plan is to continue with the uh the porter service and the maintenance.

Um I I believe Justin and the home office is working with the landlord to see if a certain beautifications can be made, but that is something that they're working with the landlord with.

I thought there was a commitment to to have planters additional greenery and flowers in front of the store.

Am I remembering that wrong?

I I don't remember that, but I don't.

I'm not saying that.

It didn't happen, but I don't know.

You are the order the Otterman is correct.

Um that is something that they're in partner conversation with the landlord from last year on us implementing a lot of things on uh on the property.

Oh, that is correct order.

So 12 months later, you still haven't done that.

There aren't flower pots out there, yes, sir.

So how it's not so how much longer will it take for you to make to complete your commitment that you made to us in March of 2025?

Um if I if it was up to me, it'd be immediately.

Unfortunately, this is a bigger company, right?

Where they gotta partner with the landlord.

I I could put the put put their feet to the fire and I'll do what I can to try to make that make that occur.

So frankly, I'm not comfortable renewing a license when you made a commitment last year to do things that you still haven't done it.

If the license renewal was a couple months out, okay, yeah, we're still looking at landscaping options.

We're talking to landlord, okay, great, I get it.

Um we see that you know the landscaping was addressed right away.

The the garbage corral was addressed right away, but the commitment wasn't completed.

Um and I don't know if it's gonna take another year or another five years for them to complete the commitment that they did from March.

So why should the why should the committee renew your license when you haven't completed what you made a commitment to?

Um based off uh just the improvement overall in the neighborhood.

I mean, are we a hundred percent committed to I mean are we a hundred percent completed with what we what we recommended or stated from last year?

No.

Um I would just say from the continuous approvement of the location.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Did you have anything to add before we go into committee?

Oh, yes, thank you.

Um, Madam Chair.

There has been a significant improvement, not only in communication, but in the trash collection and the communication with the neighbors.

Um I often said that my staff and I cannot um do that job of monitoring.

I think we were like doing some of Justin's work before he came, and I'm really glad that he's here now.

He's been proactive.

Um hope he's being compensated well because that is a lot of work.

Um we did, you know.

I took I took no um joy in that pretty severe closure last year.

Um, but I do want to thank the committee because it looks like it did change behavior, and we got the uh attention of the corporation.

Um I you know I I can understand why an older person would want to do that again on landscaping.

We put in writing to the law firm that represents them that we need uh a written agreement on the landscaping.

So I'm I would ask for um a warning letter specific on that and between now and the council meeting, which is a bit delayed here in March um because of our cycle in the National League.

Um, that we in order to renew it at the council, we're going to need that landscaping um agreement in writing with timelines.

And I would also ask for a warning letter.

Madam Chair.

Are you asking for a hold, Alderman Dmitrievich?

I'm asking for approval, but letting you know that I may need to hold it at council if I haven't gotten that in writing.

And and I do agree that there's been a major improvement.

Very good.

So approval we but we pull it out.

You would want to pull it out if you don't get it.

Yep, sounds like it.

Yeah.

That's what I said I would do exactly.

And I also asked for a warning letter to be so kind.

And I thank you all for your commitment.

That's how we got major improvement here.

Thank you.

Audible.

Madam Chair, noting for the attorney and um and the and Justin that you had better get back to uh Alder Woman with that information because she certainly is within her rights on council date.

And I have a just clarification question.

Otherwise, I'm ready for a motion.

Go for it.

Um, because you can contact her offline.

Um I move for approval with a warning letter, Madam Chair.

Okay.

So the motion by order person repays approval of the warning letter.

Any objections to that motion?

Hearing thing non so order.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I'll take it back.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Vice Chair.

All right, we will move on now to our 1050 a.m.

agenda agenda item.

Is it Dietrich A.

Hudson Jr., agent for Tasty Flavors Food Operator L L C Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises and Food Delay Licenses application requesting five amusement machines for Tasty Flavors at 3510 West Villard Avenue.

All right.

Good afternoon.

And your Dietrich?

Yes, I are.

If both of you will raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

And if you would do it, yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

If you'll pull that microphone over to ma'am.

Good afternoon, Your Honor.

Uh attorney Mike Manselman on behalf of the applicant.

Okay, very good.

Thank you, Attorney Maestelman.

Um, all right.

And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you.

And if you'll each state your name and address for the record.

D3 Hudson.

4812, North 1004 Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Thank you.

Tangela Johnson, 4812, North 1004, Apartment 3, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53225.

Thank you.

All right.

Mr.

Coney, are there any holds?

There are holes for occupancy, health inspection, and then the Department of Revenue has a hold asking us to withhold issuance of any license or permit at this location based on sales tax.

I think that that's related to the old operator, but we will need clearance from that.

Okay, let's let them finish.

But we'll need clearance from the DOR that it's okay to issue your license.

Okay, so we can still proceed.

Yes.

And then hopefully that all get cleared up.

Okay.

Um Sergeant Velasquez, is there a police report?

No police report.

Thank you.

I see it's a new application.

Will you tell us a little bit about your experience and plan for the business?

Uh so I basically been uh I started like seven years ago.

I was working at Eve, I was in the kitchen with my mom, just uh helping her cook, and then I end up getting my food truck license.

Again, help from my mom and my brother.

So basically just uh always just been around cooking, you know, barbecuing, just do a lot of things.

Okay.

So you have you been running this premise just with food, and you're just adding alcohol?

Yes, yes.

Okay, how long have you been running that?

Uh about like a year.

Okay.

Very good, thank you.

Questions from committee members or elder woman?

Local older woman?

Yeah, I mean, were you working for the previous operator?

Uh no, I wasn't.

Were you working in this business when it was mom's barbecue or Tony's?

Yeah, yeah.

I knew I'm I'm I'm new to Laz owners basically.

Okay, so you were working for them.

When is that license?

Uh let me take a look.

So currently there are no uh it's not licensed right now for food, but let me uh look up the history.

Okay, September 26th of 2025, it looks like sorry about that.

Um, Madam Vice Chair, I thought that it was just an alcohol application and it was currently running as a restaurant, but that's incorrect.

Sure, it's not running at all.

It's not okay.

Um right, and while we're waiting, any questions?

Oh, go ahead.

Yeah, the last license did expire September 26th of 20.

Okay.

So you worked there prior to September.

Yes.

Okay.

The owner is like my best friend.

The old owner was like best friend since like 15, 16 years old.

Okay.

Brandy Chapman, who owned it.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Are you done all the way?

Yeah.

Please, Alderman Bergellis.

Was it previously licensed with alcohol?

Or was it just food?

Uh it previously had a tavern license and a public entertainment premises license.

Thanks for the clarification.

Sorry to hurt.

I mean, I do have questions about that too.

Go ahead, Aldo Murphy.

Okay, so um, I mean, you were scheduled because it is a liquor license and it's new.

Um, but because it does hold a class B tavern license and a public entertainment license previously, um, it was the plan when this was Tony's barbecue.

That's when this license uh became a class B and the public entertainment, like in 2019, maybe or 2020.

Um, they had the intention of opening up the sit-down portion.

Um since then, they have used the five amusement machines or however many amusement machines to block the way so you can't get to the sit-down portion.

Um I tend to support uh I'm more suburbed liquor licenses when you're also offering food.

Um I'm asking you, is this is your intention for this to be a tavern, and then where would it be?

Because this is right now, it's like a carry out.

So basically we go do the remodeling and do a uh sit down, but our main focus is to focus on the restaurant of food, like talking to the the to the original Tony's who owned it for over 40 years.

He gave me the plan of what to do, how to do it, and so we focus in more on food, like he said.

I know as adults they want a beer, they want to wine, which I don't drink, he don't drink, but we know that family and friends that when they get some barbecue, or just working with the old owners and then Tony, just seeing how they was operating underneath the beer wine or cocktail that so the initially starting.

Do you intend on what are you offering?

Offering are you doing just carry out initially until you can do the the build out?

Yes.

Okay.

So then what I'm gonna say is I feel I would uh prefer to hold the liquor license until that build out is done.

Okay.

All right.

And so I like I support the business.

I've read about it.

I think it's gonna be a great addition, especially once you get the sit-down portion, because that's what I'm working for.

Right, you know, sit-down restaurants in the district.

Um, but once you get that all built out and the amusement machines are kind of moved out of the way or to the back or wherever they're going, that you have that sit-down portion and then you'd have uh option you have a full car.

All right.

Okay.

Um, yeah, another question.

So I should have you also been in contact with the Villa Bid?

And who the business improvement district there?

We've been contacting, contacting nobody, but uh we do we are familiar with them because we do the we have the food short out there summertime, plenty time, so they're familiar with us with tasty flavors food operator.

So I think they would definitely be a good connection.

I know they're in between like a liaison person right now, so it may be a little more difficult to get in contact with them, but um when it comes to like a facade grant or any you know some help with with the work that you need to do in that building.

All right.

All right.

Um so what would be the best option here that so the applicant could withdraw their class B tavern at this time?

Could I hold it?

Or could we or could we just hold the committee could approve the food and hold the tavern in the paper?

The applicant could withdraw the withdrawal would disqualify them from coming back here for six months.

Oh, so better just hold it.

Hold it.

Okay.

All right.

Um do you want me to ask for neighbors for a table?

Okay.

Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?

We got one.

Oh, one person, okay.

Anyone virtually that plans to testify on this item today.

If you'll raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

I have one okay.

I need you guys to let me know who's here on this item.

That's fine.

If you want, okay.

We're good.

Anybody wants to speak?

Okay, I saw two people, so I'm all only two people are giving testimony on this item.

Hold up your right hand so we can swear you in.

Is it true to hold truth and if you want the truth?

Thank you.

Okay, if you'll each make your way up here to the standing mic, you'll have two and a half minutes or less.

If you can make your remarks in less than two and a half minutes, the committee would really appreciate that.

If you'll start with your name and address and then go right into your remarks.

Thank you.

Um, this is my family.

Um I I've walked them, I've seen them walk through um purchasing the food truck as well as being in the um hospitality industry, entertainment industry, um, for a long time.

So I know that they lead with integrity.

Um, they have great mentors that are helping them to walk through this process as well to ensure that they do it right.

Um, so I'm definitely in support of what they're doing here today.

Thank you.

If you'll stay up there for questions, questions for this witness from committee members or elder woman Pratt?

Questions from the applicant, only questions for this witness.

That's you guys.

I don't know.

I don't have any.

Okay, thank you very much.

Thank you.

All right.

Now let me start this over and you have two and a half minutes.

If you can make it shorter, we would appreciate it if you'll start with your name and address.

My name is Latanya guy.

I reside at 5742.

Excuse me, West Roosevelt Drive.

I am not in the community, but when it was Tony's, I used to frequent it a lot.

Tangle is out, and DJ are also friends of mine, and every place that they have had has been successful.

And we just want them to prosper even more than what they have had with their food truck.

The food is excellent.

So hopefully when it opens, you guys come out and enjoy it as much as we do.

Okay.

Thank you for if you'll stay up there for any questions.

Questions from committee members or elder woman Pratt for this witness?

No, no questions.

Thanks for coming.

Questions from the applicants?

No, no, you're on.

Okay, thank you very much.