Milwaukee Licenses Committee Meeting - July 17, 2026
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All right, good morning.
I will call to order the license, the special licenses committee.
Is it special?
Yes, the special licenses committee meeting on Friday, July 17th at what time is it?
903.
903 a.m.
I am Joe Casta Samaripa.
I'm chairperson of the committee.
I'm joined in the following order to my right by our vice chair, Alder Woman Andrea Pratt.
Um Alderman DeAndre Jackson will be with us shortly.
To my left, um Alderman Peter Brigelis, and then um to his left, Alderman Alex Brower will be joining us shortly.
Would also um like to um welcome and introduce Yadira Melendez, our staff assistant.
Good morning, good morning.
Um, as well as Ms.
Fabio Fabiola Lopez, our licensed division assistant manager.
Good morning, Sergeant Cornejo is here from the Milwaukee Police Department.
Good morning, Sergeant.
Morning.
Um, and attorney Travis Gresham from the Office of the City Attorney.
Good morning.
Um the only item on the agenda is file number 260462.
Motion relating to the recommendations of the licenses committee relating to licenses.
And the first item on our 9 a.m.
agenda is Garasquio Robles.
Agent for Ebenezer Auto and Repair LLC, second hand motor vehicle dealer's license renewal application with adding stockholder and transfer of stack for Ebenezer Auto and Repair LLC at 4440 West Forest Home Avenue.
Is Javyan M Garasquio Robles present?
All right, is he on virtually perhaps?
Harvian M.
Garasquillo Robles.
All right.
Licenses have we have you heard from the applicant?
No, I'm not sure.
Alderman Burgelis, have you heard from this applicant?
I have not.
Is this their first time non-appearance?
Yes.
Alderwoman Andrea Pratt moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered.
I have to pass the gavel now as we enter the eighth Alderman District.
Okay, Madam Vice Chair.
Oh yes.
So next up on our on our 9 a.m.
agenda, we have Wadud Ahmad, agent for U.S.
Petrol LLC, filling station, food dealer, and weights and measures license renewal application for U.S.
petrol at 2931 West Lincoln Avenue.
Is Wadud Ahmad present?
Okay.
So please uh come have a seat here.
Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
He's the applicant.
I'm his counsel.
Okay.
Yep, raise your hand, please.
Do you sonly affirm on the dependence and penalties of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yes, I do.
Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?
Do you get the notice?
Yes, yes.
And attorney, can you please state your appearance?
My name is Mr.
Ramad.
I'm here as counsel for Mr.
Ahmad.
Okay.
Um Mr.
Mr.
Ahmad, please state your name and address for the record.
Name and address.
Where you prefer to receive mail.
8160 South 43rd Street, Franklin, Wisconsin, 53132.
Thank you.
Miss Lopez, are there I'm sorry?
Miss Lopez, are there any holds?
No holds.
Sergeant uh Conejo, is there a police report?
There are no police reports.
Okay.
Send your business.
Can I uh inquire as to counsel?
Are you barred in Wisconsin?
Yes.
Great, thank you.
Okay.
You said that no subjections on file.
Okay.
Um are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?
Okay.
So uh anyone here who's present to testify, please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
Is it right?
Is there anyone on the board or in the online that is here to testify regarding Wadud Ahmad U.S.
Petro at 2931 West Lincoln?
Okay.
So we have two people in the room.
Your right hand raised uh to be sworn in.
Thank you.
Okay.
You can both come to the standing mic.
Thank you.
And you're just gonna uh state your name and address and then provide your testimony.
You'll be given two and a half minutes.
Thank you.
Good morning.
My name's Joanna Bouch.
I am a neighbor.
I reside at 2448 South 30th Street.
Um so yes, I'm a neighbor, I'm a near I'm a neighbor to this business.
I live a couple blocks down.
I want to begin by saying that I have no concerns with this operation.
Um the gas station is clean, it's very well lit.
Um however, I felt it important to speak today because the owner also owns another property just a few doors down from this gas station.
Um and that uh property is in sign is a significant nuisance for our community and for the people that live close by it.
The building has been vacant and boarded up for an extended period of time.
It regularly attracts people seeking shelter, accumulates litter, and has become a persistent quality of life concern for the surrounding neighbors.
I recognize that this property is not the license premise before you today.
Uh my purpose is not to oppose the renewal of this business license, but to ask the committee to encourage the owner to take responsibility for all of the properties they own in our neighborhood.
As neighbors, we see these properties as part of this uh the same owner's overall stewardship and investment in our community.
We appreciate the care that has gone into operating the business successfully, and we hope that same level of attention can be given to the nearby vacant property so that it is no longer negatively impacting the neighborhood and the people around it.
Um and uh I'm also the executive director of via CDC.
We have attempted to contact this business or this property owner, this business owner in regards to the nuisance property with no luck.
Um I know neighbors have tried to uh uh contact him as well, and also no luck.
I believe that these conversations are also not to just reflect the businesses but to reflect the integrity of the operators of these businesses, and when you have one good business but uh a complete night and day uh uh property that you also own in the same neighborhood, couple blacks down, it has to come into question.
Does this uh business owner truly care about the neighborhood?
So I I would just wish that he could address the property that is causing significant nuisance for the neighbors around it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And just stay up for if we have any questions.
Does the committee have any questions for this witness?
Audio.
Thank you.
Um, what's the address of the nuisance property?
Sorry.
It's on the corner of 27th and Lincoln, but I don't have the exact address on me.
It's that's my bad.
Madam Chair.
We've called the Alder Person's office about this property as well, too, so she may have it readily available.
It's a it's in the file.
Um there are some objections in the file.
2709.
He does also on 2709 West Lincoln Avenue, which is 2709 West Lincoln Avenue.
Um you've personally observed the property being a problem?
Yes, and I've called it in a number of times too.
2709.
That's kind of like the hut on the side.
It's right on the corner.
It's a residential, it appears to be a residential property.
It's completely boarded up.
But it's like a small sideways shotgun house.
I don't know what defines a shotgun house.
But the officer here has pulled it up on his phone, and that's correct.
Got it.
Um other questions from committee for this witness.
Uh any questions from the applicant for this witness?
Questions only.
Uh yes, when's the last time that you observed 2709?
Yesterday.
Okay.
Was it in the same state of disrepair yesterday as it has been when you made the calls?
Were there people outside?
Was there trash?
Was there a speaker?
Was it were there people outside the building?
Was there unnecessary trash?
Were was it actively a nuisance when you saw it yesterday?
Yesterday when I was going home, there were um no people, but there was trash, lots of trash.
Okay.
Uh any questions from uh Autoberson for this witness.
No, madam chair.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Uh-huh.
Hi.
Please cite your name and address for the record, and you'll be given two and a half minutes.
Thank you.
Uh Briesa Van Galen and address 3524 West National.
Anything.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
I'm the uh economic development director at Via CDC.
Um, I'm here again.
It's you know, the there is no issue uh with the gas station.
Um, and just want to speak to I've been here numerous times before before the committee um wanting to support responsible operators uh do to do business in the neighborhoods that via serves the Silver City, Brendan Park, Leighton Park, uh in Clark's career neighborhoods.
Uh as part of my job, I do door-to-door outreach and have stopped uh at the gas station to try to reach the operator.
I have left my business card um and have been unable to contact or or make contact, have a conversation.
I'm here to just say I want to build a relationship with the operator uh to not only support the gas station but any other uh properties or businesses that they operate in our neighborhoods.
I am aware that the operator is the owner of the house in the corner as part of our work.
We work with neighbors who have raised numerous concerns and things that I have witnessed as well with the house.
Uh, because the house is located at the corner of 27th and Lincoln, uh, that is an entry point to Lincoln Avenue, which holds a number of businesses, and we know that perceived safety is just as important as actual safety when it comes to people feeling safe to enter our commercial corridors and shop and walk.
And so again, we just ask that the operator um give attention to this other property, and I'm again want to build a relationship.
I want to understand the story.
I think every vacant building has a story and want to understand why it is in the state that it is, and be a thought a thought partner and a resource finder to ensure that this house um is activated and filled with with people that you know could occupy it.
Thank you.
Do the uh any committee members have any questions for this witness?
Madam Chair, Audible Zamorigma.
Um thank you for your testimony, Prisa.
We appreciate via in the district and the work that you do to organize neighbors.
Um I wanted to ask, I know we have some objections in the file from some of my constituents, some neighbors.
Um have you been hearing from them as well on having issues um in the neighborhood with this property owner?
Yes, uh, in particular, there are three uh property owners on 27th that um are are right next to this particular property um that are incredibly um frustrated with the day-to-day uh loitering, the trash, the overgrown weeds.
Uh the house is at boarded up as we speak.
Um so it is it is definitely a nuisance.
These are property owners, longtime property owners who would like to see that corner uh addressed and have reported, I have reported overgrown weeds through the app, you know, when I'm in the in the area to try to do what I can to draw attention to the property.
And just a follow-up, madam chair.
Yes.
Um I too have uh tried to get a hold of the property owner um around the property uh that's about three blocks away from from the gas station.
It's very difficult, almost impossible to get a hold of him.
So I have um have you tried, I believe you mentioned in your testimony did you try to find him at the gas station, the one that is up for renewal today, and you were on unsuccessful.
I was unsuccessful.
Um I I did uh speak with another gentleman um who is here today, and I I provided my my business card and let him know who I was, why you know why I wanted to connect, um, but to no avail.
I asked for the phone number and I I you know understandably said he couldn't share that kind of personal information, which I understand.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you.
Uh does the applicant have any questions for this witness?
Uh no.
Okay.
Madam Chair.
There may be some clarification from MPD as to the nuisance status of the building.
Um I'll let Sergeant Gornel speak to that.
So I'll just text the CPU guys from District 2.
And uh they the response was that it was a nuisance.
Uh not anymore because it expired in March.
But it is a vacant house.
Designated nuisance status can you know, I guess be flipped on and off as it were.
Yeah.
Um, so if there are continued neighbor concerns, obviously that can that status can return.
Um so again, that'll be as to the individual property.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
This is in the eighth auto mag district, Auto Woman Xamarin Board.
Thank you.
Um, Madam Chair.
I I do know that uh Mr.
Ahmad's um property business at 2931 West Lincoln is up today before us, not the property at that he also owns at 2709 West Lincoln Avenue.
But with um multiple constituents reaching out and this business that you run being just a mere couple of blocks away from this home that you own that you have allowed to fall into such disrepair.
Um I I do find it to be um germane to to ask you about what your investment is and your commitment is to the district to the neighborhood that you own two properties that you run a business in that you own multiple properties in.
Um it is been it has been difficult for my office to try to reach out to you, and it has been difficult for my constituents and for neighborhood organizations to try to attempt to build a relationship with you and ask you um to do something about this property on 27th and Lincoln.
So wanted to give you a chance to give us uh your side and explain your sentiment.
I'd also like to let you to let us know how often you're at the gas station because we have tried time and time again to find you there, and there's just no sign of you.
Uh Madam Chair, could I respond for my client?
Yes, go ahead.
So uh as far as the availability at the gas station, uh my client is the owner of the gas station.
He does not uh actively run it.
It is a leased property um to a relative who is here in attendance.
So there's no uh regular schedule with which my client is available to um talk to people at the gas station.
I understand my client understands um that numerous attempts have been made uh and we appreciate the valid concerns brought by the constituents and uh the neighbors.
We'd like to apologize formally for not being more available, and we look forward to working with the constituents and yourself in the future to address any problems or nuisances uh with the property at 2709.
As far as uh the history of the 2709 property goes and my clients um plan to invest in it and uh rectify the issues.
Uh he's he's owned it for a number of years.
Um in the past couple of years there have been some issues with uh um tenants that have led to the state that the property is currently in.
Um as a result, it is currently vacant while um my client forms a plan in and uh uh undertakes work to fix it.
Uh again, we apologize for how long it's taken for that to be fixed.
Um there were my client had some health issues uh previously, which resulted in him not being able to complete the work at the property that needs to be done to bring it back into a um a respectable place to be seen in the neighborhood.
So just this past month my client has begun work again on the property.
Uh the trash has been picked up, the uh hedges and weeds have been cut and trimmed.
So from the outside, it is still boarded up.
Um but the uh the boarding up is necessary because as you know if property is not vacant, it's quite easy um for uh people to attempt to break in and um uh take over the residence, so it it needs to be boarded up until such time where it's ready to be leased out again.
However, that the trash um the general upkeep of of the yard has been improved over the past month.
My client has brought pictures that were taken uh this morning to show the current state of the property that directly contrast pictures that were provided in the complaints um via email.
Uh so if you would like we could show those on my client's phone to the uh the board.
But they haven't been noticed, right?
So it's up to the discretion of the committee.
I mean, obviously they're submitted by the kind of the the witness themselves, so I mean this is you know they can attest to the kind of foundation of that.
Um secondarily, um I guess I just wanted to give counsel a chance to clarify.
Um I think there was a statement that was made indicating that the business itself was leased out.
Um we have the um LLC listed as US petro or US Petro LLC.
Um this isn't then further subleased, is it?
As US Petrol LLC is the actual operating entity of this establishment, correct?
Yes.
Okay, all right, cool.
My intrepid licensing colleague caught that, so I just wanted to make sure that that was a clarification you could make.
So um as to the evidence, the entry of evidence from the witness um or the applicant, you can accept that as you will.
Um, you know, whether or not that's pertinent to your decision is is kind of up to you folks.
Okay, and these are pictures I were taking this morning.
Yes, pictures that were taken this morning.
Madam Chair, yes.
I I just I can absolutely go and check it out myself when I head back to the district today.
I don't think we need to display these pictures.
I appreciate and I take you at your word.
I appreciate your testimony.
I do want to ask what what further are you doing um around the individuals that consistently loiter um at the property in and around the property.
I would say it was about a week ago I saw a woman squatting in the backyard.
So it's not just the um overgrown, you know, bushes and grass and tall tall grass and weeds.
It's also the fact that we have a number of individuals that are use using the property as a place to hang out and loiter.
Um so these are the ongoing issues that you have that you have let go for quite a while, and it's been difficult for the neighborhood to try to um to try to deal with this and and have a decent quality of life.
So uh as part of the renovations, the fence around the property has been taken down because it was in a state of disrepair and part of the ISOR of the property.
Uh the plan is through the course of these renovations to put that fence back up with a suitable gate and lock to inhibit people from loitering in the yard.
Um also whenever my client goes to the property to perform work, he makes sure that if anyone is loadering there at that time, he makes clear to them that that is not acceptable.
Signage has been posted.
Um trespass if they they loiter or attempt to enter the building.
So uh I my client is making every effort possible.
I have you know, short of being posted there 24-7 himself to prevent loitering and unwanted um attention at the property.
Is your client willing to meet with me and the neighbors?
Absolutely.
Thank you.
Um Madam Chair, can we just ask a follow-up to the city attorney around the fact that they they did indicate that he leases this to a relative?
City attorney Gresham, are you saying that this is appropriate's appropriate?
Well, I just wanted to make sure that there was a chance to correct the record.
I I assume council meant that it's uh you know a relative that operates the business day to day.
Yes.
And so it's not a sublease to a different organization.
The actual organization that's operating it is US petrol.
Yes.
Okay.
That's that's clarifying enough for me.
I just didn't want to I just wanted to make sure you US petrol is owned by the relative.
Okay.
Yeah, so it's it's the U it's leased to the relative, or sorry, it's least the US petro, um, but it's not further sublease anyone else.
You US petrol is uh operating it, and the person that you know, the person behind US petro is the relative.
Wait.
I mean, I struggle with this because again, he's impossible to get a hold of.
We go to the gas station, the guy doesn't offer himself up as a leader in the business.
Madam Chair, there might be a licensing issue.
With the registered agent not being in ownership of the LLC.
The the LLC is is is owned by the two brothers.
So Wadud Ahmad and uh Mahmood uh Mudm Bashar.
Yeah, so uh the record currently shows that only what that Wadud is a hundred percent stockholder of U.S.
petrol.
Okay.
So the record is not correct.
I I I may be mistaken then on that.
Okay.
All right.
You know, I um appreciate the applicant being willing to sit down with myself as the elder and the neighbors, as you have committed to here, correct?
Uh there are sounds like there's still some issues that we need to discuss around the application.
Um so I would like to move to hold this item to the call of the chair, Matt.
Madam Chair.
Would also be my advice to clarify specific ownership interest.
Um it has to be reflected correctly on the application.
Okay.
Um so that has to be corrected before we move forward.
The motion about autoparzing repos to hold to the college here.
Hearing you saying no objections.
Before we um before we uh uh vote on the motion.
Okay.
Um I think it would be appropriate to give the uh applicant uh an opportunity to um share their plans for the uh neglected property and uh provide a timeline when they expect to have that done because it looks like the fence has been down for a while.
Uh no renovations have taken place yet, other than cleaning up the trash which might have happened this morning or last night.
So I I'm more interested in a timeline what your commitment is to the neighborhood.
Okay.
The property will be uh I'm trying my best to fix it as soon as possible.
And as uh I have some health issues in and out to work and stop working on it.
But I hired the contractor to uh work on it and he installed the because a car hit to the to the property when there was an accident happened in the intersection and you knock out the one of the wall and the window.
So we replaced the window, and after that well short time, somebody came and break the window again.
Then I boarded up the window again.
So now I did not replace that uh fix the window because uh I know that because the people nobody lives there, the people keep messing there.
Next door is the liquor store and the all the homeless and the those people they sit around there.
I go very often there and move them.
I put some signage also.
Nobody can let it over there.
But as soon as I walk away, they start coming over there.
They buy the l from the liquor store, those beer and stuff like that, the drink over there, the throw details.
I likely I go there and pick up those trash myself and throw in there.
But if I don't go for a couple of days, definitely the dash is going to be get together there.
So my question is your timeline.
When do you think would be at least I I uh I try my best to uh rent it out before before uh winter.
Winter.
Okay.
So we got winter this year.
I I every winter I've been uh shoveling the snow, also taking care of the property in the winter and the summer.
I'm tired of that too, but I I'm trying my best to do it.
My my first question was strictly to your timeline.
Winter was your answer.
Like I said, winter this year.
I hope yeah, this is winter 2026.
Yeah, about uh by the November it should be rendered.
By November, yes, 2026.
Okay.
Um is this property located in uh police district two or police district six?
I believe it's two.
Um do you have standing orders with the with the district for loitering so that anyone hanging out on the porch police have the right to stop right away when they observe it when they drive by?
Yes.
Do you have standing orders with the police department for loitering?
Uh I I couple time I uh call the police who have a so you don't have a special no standing order.
We don't have to is that a commitment that you can make to contact the district today?
Yes and ensure that loitering is on the district's uh radar.
Yes, okay.
We will do that.
So you're making that commitment to do that today.
We will contact the police department today to get standing orders for the process.
District two here.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Okay.
Your question about um work done on the property.
Right now, the work done on the property was being focused on the interior um to get it back in shape for uh rent.
That's why the outside looks the same.
Uh however, we will shift our um efforts to both the outside and the inside renovations at this time.
Okay.
Thank you.
Automatically context since we're on discussion, um, we did in an attempt to reach out to both myself and the Milwaukee Police Department did try to reach out to you to let you know you could have these standing orders in place.
You could post no loitering signs to help them to help to assist MPD to be able to move those folks along that were loitering on your property.
But again, it was so we could not get a hold of you.
So just another a little bit more context, but again, I appreciate your willingness to now sit down with me and the neighbors in the very near near future.
I've got Patty, my aide here in the room.
Um when we finish up here, if you'll connect with her and via, and maybe we can get something on the calendar immediately before we had you guys head out today.
So there are no loitering signs that were uh put up already.
It's just we just we haven't gotten the standing orders from district two yet.
There are no loitering signs posted all around the building though, currently um additionally, one thing I wanted to mention uh before the committee makes their final decision.
Um as the um neighbors have mentioned uh there is no issue with the the gas station itself, which is a subject of the licenses today, it's uh with this house at 2709.
And as it currently stands, uh the house has not been designated a nuisance.
There are no outstanding fees, there are no um outstanding tax bills.
Uh so I I do not think it would be proper to withhold the license for the gas station if there is no formal designation or pending issue unpaid fees with respect to 2709.
Um I would request the chair or uh Madam Chair to please take that into consideration when you make your decision here.
Okay, thank you.
Audible Hansima Rita.
Um thank you, Council.
That was um I appreciate that closing statement.
Um I do want to indicate I agree with you, we are here for the gas station, not for the dilapidated property a couple of blocks away.
But nevertheless, we have also been made aware of an issue with the licensing.
I have a little I'm trying to figure out what you're doing here with leasing it to a relative, as you know it came up with the city attorney.
So I find it very appropriate um to hold this so we can address that as well.
Okay.
And that does have to do with the with the gas station.
Um so I think that my motion to hold.
Um I would still like to um stick with my motion to hold, but I also want to make sure to clarify for you and the agent that you guys have a provisional license in place and I'm showing it looks like it is it uh until the end of August, is that right?
Fabiola?
Uh yes.
August 31st is one of the things.
And I'm hoping we might we may even be able to meet before the end of this month so we can take care of this at a special before council on the th on July 31st.
But if not, if we for for whatever reason get to August 31st, you'll still get a provisional um in the in the interim, isn't that correct licenses?
Yeah, council, you won't be denied a license.
Okay, yeah.
Because I I also saw that and correct me if I'm wrong, the council doesn't meet during the month of August.
Correct.
So we're concerned that if we can't get this done.
No, you'll never be denied administratively a license.
So it'll never be through a fault of time that you'll be denied a license.
Provisionals will be granted um to perpetuate your license.
Okay.
Yep.
And you have a provisional right now.
Okay.
Um in place, and perhaps we can take care of this ahead of the July 31st council meeting at the end of this month.
Um if we can get a meeting on our calendars before then.
Yeah, and it's it's simply clarifying the LLC and the structure.
Okay.
Yeah.
Very good.
Okay.
The motion by all the parts I'm repository to the college here.
Are there any objections to the motion?
Hearing and saying non cell order.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Next up on our 9 a.m.
agenda.
We have Oscar Vega Aguilar agent for La Chinampa, Mexican food LLC, Class B for minted malt and Class C wine licenses application for La Chinampa at 350 West National Avenue is Oscar D.
Vega Aguilar present.
Thank you.
Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
Yes.
Sorry.
Do you song here on the depends and penalties of purjee of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Yes.
Thank you.
Um are you a researcher please state your name and address for the record?
Nombre dirección para record.
This is 1903 West Highland Avenue.
Oh no, 332 22.
Thank you.
Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
Uh no hold.
Oh, sorry.
No, no holds.
Sergeant Velasquez.
I mean Velasquez, sorry, it's on here.
Sergeant Corneo.
Is there a police report?
There are no police reports.
We'll have to update the script.
Yeah.
Um are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?
No.
Okay.
Let the record reflect that there are no neighbors present who wish to testify.
Um do you want to tell us about your plan?
This is a new alcohol license, right?
Um you want to tell us about your plan for the business and your expanding.
Uh the plan is it's a new uh yes, it's a new business.
Uh they are serving Mexican and Italian food.
Um they are wanting to be able to serve alcohol since their clients have been asking for a cocktail whenever they're doing uh with their food, and that is the plan.
Okay.
Okay.
And this is in the 8th automatic district, other person's Amar.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Um yes, I have gone to visit the business and I um talked to Mr.
Oscar um about his plan on toured the um the place and um I do support this application.
I do want to clarify I'm sorry, did I go in too fast or do you want to try us to look at my own?
And I just want to clarify that um Mr.
Vega Aguilar does want to apply for a full alcohol license to include liquor as well.
Um but at the time he had only applied for beer and wine.
I do support him ultimately applying for a um a full alcohol license, but um we knew we couldn't get that in before the August break, so he decided to go with this beer and wine application, which I support, and I do anticipate he'll be coming to us um pretty quickly, probably in the um after we come back from break to apply for a full liquor license.
Um but for now I am in support um of this application.
It's okay.
Madam Chair.
Oh, go ahead.
Translate are you gonna translate or get it?
He understood everything you said.
Okay, okay.
Madam Chair, I just wanted uh for the applicant wanted to clarify as the ultra person stated.
Um only beer and beer and wine is being approved for Margaritas.
You're gonna need liquor.
So that would be the full class B tavern.
So get that application in right away so we can get that moving.
Yes.
But at least you'll have this to start.
Okay.
Madam Chair.
I guess to further clarify for the committee, any alcohol on premises, so anything that does not meet the classification of fermented malt or wine is in violation except for there are a few things in statute that you can do, collector's bottles and other things like that.
But otherwise, DOR looks very poorly on not having the correct license and having the incorrect alcohol for service.
It's presumed for service if it's at that location.
Okay.
No, no.
Doesn't look like this.
Thank you.
Um I just want to be clear.
So this is just an unfortunate.
He was trying to, he thought I would only approve perhaps just beer.
That's fine.
I just for his protection, I well, I mean, for the committee's at education and also for the broader understanding.
Right.
You just can't it can pose a problem if you some people stock a full bar.
Right.
And then they think that they can only okay.
Um we are in committee.
Does the commitment to the other person?
Thank you.
On the application, it shows that you're applying for a service bar only.
Um canada masco a la mesa.
Yes.
So you will not have any bar stools or using the bar for seating.
For the moment, no.
Okay, thank you.
Okay, any other questions from committee?
I'd like to move approval.
Okay.
Motion Marta Parsons and Maripo's approval.
Any objections to the motion?
Hearing and saying none, so ordered.
Thank you.
Good luck.
Suerte.
Next up on our 905 a.m.
agenda.
Yeah.
Me to Oberroy, agent for Oberoy Real Estate LLC class A malt class A liquor and food dealer license renewal application for quick pick food mark at 332 is me to Oberoy present.
Yes, good morning, Chairs Borepo attorney Vince Bobby with me to Oberroy appeared by Zoom video.
Thank you.
Uh please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
Say I do.
I do.
Thank you.
Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?
Yes.
Please state your name and address for the record.
Me too, Obre.
Address 3332 West Lincoln Avenue, Milwaukee.
Okay.
Miss Lopez.
I just want to at this moment if I have I just want to let you know that I have her son Harshkeep Oberoy here to help with any uh translation that may be needed.
Thank you.
We can start.
Okay, we need to get him sworn in there.
Okay.
All right.
You saw me from an independent penetration burger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
I do.
We can't hear them.
I do.
Thank you.
Can you speak up, please?
I do.
Thank you.
Okay.
Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
No holds.
Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?
Uh 9, 28, 25 at 1039 a.m.
An officer conducted an alcohol compliance check.
The listed agent sold a part a participant under the legal age and alcoholic beverage with all first checking an ID to confirm their age.
The agent was cited for sale slash tobacco uh traffic alcohol at 2008 person on 1136 uh immunity courts, they were found guilty and fine was paid.
On 31126 at 1222 p.m.
officers were dispatched to a theft complaint.
The agent attempted to stop a subject from stealing items from the business.
The subject was a the subject was able to flee with some cans of alcoholic beverages on 315 26 at 9 p.m.
Oscillator dispatched to a trouble with subject complaints.
An employee reported a subject that was drinking outside of the business, entered and then was conveyed to a local hospital by a private ambulance.
Would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?
Yes, I would, if I may.
Um this incident of selling to an underage individual, uh it was a can of a mixed drink.
Uh my client uh did it accept responsibility, went to municipal court and has paid the forfeiture.
I want to let everybody know that they now have a we check ID sign out.
They now do all they they do have a point of sale um machine now at the store that's functional where they check IDs.
Uh, my client firmly believes that since this incident took place, there were other subsequent checks by uh the Milwaukee Police Department in which she did not traffic or sale to an underage individual.
Uh last month my client did a check of the point of sale of rejected identification cards, and it came up with 11.
So every month they're monitoring how many people are trying to come to the store and purchase alcohol products that are underage.
This is the first time my client has been in front of the committee.
She's a five-year owner of the store.
Uh they do have a full array of cameras, namely 11, nine inside, two outside.
And I will tell you that uh my client learned a valuable lesson as a result of this violation and is determined not to have it happen again.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Uh does the committee have any questions about the police report?
Okay.
Uh person's America.
Thank you.
I appreciate that context, Attorney Bobbitt.
Um, as you know, the committee takes very seriously uh selling tobacco and or alcohol to minors to underage folks, and the number of convenience stores, grocery stores that have been before us, because they were caught selling to an underage person is just unacceptable.
As you know, that this is why I scheduled the applicant as as you look at the more detailed police report.
It was not an employee of hers that sold to a minor, it was the agent herself that sold a single serving alcoholic beverage to an underage person, and that is unacceptable.
It's why my colleagues are uh putting forward a file, if I'm not mistaken, to increase the fines, because I know you mentioned she already paid her fine, and what I'm thinking is that these fines must not be uh they're obviously not enough of a deterrent because we're just having these countless grocery stores come before us because they are caught selling to an underage person, and and it is unacceptable.
I appreciate everything she's done now to remedy the error of her ways, but this is why it was important for us to have this discussion in committee today.
Thank you.
I just want to respond to that.
I will tell you my clients take has taken that very seriously.
She's done proactive and positive steps, not to have it happen again.
And uh she made a mistake.
Thank you.
Auditor member Gallist.
Thank you very much.
Uh and you know, mistakes happen, and the reaction to uh unfortunate incidents is certainly uh important for this committee, uh myself especially.
Um, on what date did you install the POS system to verify IDs for children?
What date was it installed?
It was uh uh two days after the incident itself back in 2025.
Um so that did you but you contested the ticket after you implemented the technology?
Is it not guilty until January?
What happens is on the ticket, they have a court date, so they enter a not guilty plea.
It goes in front of a prosecutor who decides if there's a way to resolve it shorter trial, and then you're during that process that it's resolved, or she accepted responsibility.
Was was it resolved or did it go to the judge?
No, there was no trial, it was resolved.
She answered she accepted responsibility with a not guilty plea.
Uh anyone that I handle, any ticket I handle, I enter a not guilty plea to talk to the prosecutor.
If I don't do that, what they do is they default the client, and it makes it look like my client doesn't care.
And that's not the case here.
Okay, thank you.
Okay.
Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?
Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present who wish to testify.
This is in the eighth automatic district, autopsons Amaripa.
Thank you, madam chair.
I'll um move for uh renewal with a warning letter.
Okay.
We are in committee in the motion by uh our member gallis.
Thank you.
And you know a warning letter is nice, but we have uh had uh more extensive discipline for similar uh cases in the past.
Our fines at the city levees right now are fairly light, and there is pending legislation uh that I have uh co-sponsored with Alder uh woman Dmitrievich, uh and I hope uh large number of other colleagues that will change our municipal site uh municipal fines for alcohol and and tobacco sales to children to state maximums.
Uh that legislation is still pending.
Uh look forward to doing that more.
But this committee still has additional consequences available to it, and a slap on the wrist with a warning letter I feel is insufficient.
So I will not make a different motion, but I will uh note my objection for a warning letter for selling alcohol to children.
Okay, madam chair, Autoparts Amorypa.
Um I appreciate the rousing speech by my colleague, but I want to point out that he's incorrect.
We have many people before us who sell products to underage people that they're not supposed to be, and I don't see them getting non-renewed or 10 or 20 or 30 day suspensions.
If it's the first time, we most often give them an earful, which we did today, and then we approve them with a warning letter, assuming it it's one on the record, and then give them a chance for the next time they're before us.
So I hope that that's not an implication from my colleague that I am being weak on this.
This is very consistent that what's uh to what's been done with other grocery stores that have been coming up coming before us pretty consistently with these um citations before us.
Madam Chair, before any response or any kind of continued uh deliberation, um what I don't want to do is I don't want to subject or commit this committee to a course of action for any specific or particular action.
It's a context-specific fact-derived determination as to discipline.
Um so before anything else, um, I just want to make sure that we're not again committing ourselves to any particular course of action in the future, nor are we subjecting ourselves to any retroactive um or um I guess precedential look back in the past to previous practice.
Um so we again are fact-bound, context specific.
Um so within this body, you're not setting your own precedent and you're not bound to your own precedent.
However, um we we just want to stray away from the idea that the committee is is bound to any particular course of action.
Um and then again, I just I I don't want to open the conversation up and I don't want to proceed in a fashion that may encumber uh whatever disciplinary action is found here or in the future.
Thank you.
And if I could clarify, my my con Thank you.
My concern is more that the applicant implemented technology to avoid the problem from happening again while at the same time entering a plea of not guilty.
Uh but I do appreciate the robust discussion for my colleague uh in the uh local alder, and I will withdraw my objection.
Okay.
The motion by Autodarson's Amaripa is to approve with a warning letter.
Uh any objection to that motion, hearing and singing and stall order.
Thank you.
Next up on our 910 a.m.
agenda, we have Francisco Ortiz Hernandez, agent for a tacaria la vicinidad LLC.
Food peddler license renewal application for a tacaria la vicinidad at 1401 South 38th Street.
Is Francisco Ortiz Hernandez present?
Yes.
Okay.
Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
Do you solve from an independent penalties of purjee of the state of Wisconsin that the test you are about to give is it true, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Yes.
Thank you.
Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?
Yes.
Please state your name and address for the record.
Thank you, Miss Lopez.
Are there any holds?
Hold for inspection.
Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?
On 12726, the applicant was cited uh by the mocky health department for food license violations on 4926.
They were convicted and fined 1658 dollars.
Would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?
Mr.
Ortiz Hernandez, would you like to speak to the items on the police report?
Yes.
I do pay the ticket with citation that I received.
You said you paid the citation you received.
Yeah.
Okay.
Does the committee have any questions about the police report?
Madam Chair.
Uh Auto Persons and Ripa.
I just I am worried that the application, Mr.
Ortiz.
Okay.
Umone next to him that could translate.
Mr.
Oh yeah.
I henteaker para ti or no.
Okay.
No.
Um Madam Chair.
I think that this had to be scheduled because the health department objected.
Is anybody from the health department?
Is the health department present to speak to this?
Is there a representative from the health department here?
Okay.
I would like to um for these multiple reasons.
Can we go ahead and hold this to the call to check and can I just tell him?
Theoretically, you can also hold this item open.
If you want to, I mean it has been resolved.
I want to talk to him.
Okay.
Um, Senor, aunky necessitamos hente para ayudarte con traduzione y tan Tambian no tenemos el Departamento de Salud aquí.
Vamos a um esperar con su application ahorita, okay.
We're gonna hold it.
Is he at the provisional second?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, todavia tienes su licencia September.
So tenemos tiempo, right?
Flaviola.
Um yes and no because the next licenses committees, I believe September 9th, so the license would lapse.
Okay, well I'm texting the health department now, and I texted Sylvia if she can run back up.
I can um and I would approve a provisional, so yeah, senor si tenemos que esperar porque tenemos una temporal licencia temporal.
Um madam chair, do do you want him to hold to just stay online until we get someone or no because we need both, not just Sylvia, but we need the health department.
I'm contacting the health department to see if they're gonna hop on.
I mean it's still a hold of the call of the chair for now.
Right, but just making it clear to him to stay on on the board.
All right.
Okay, senor.
Señor, que se tantito ahí en la linea.
Vamos a esperar a canus se reportal departamento de salud y alguien canga you don't la traduction.
See, si lo escuchamos.
Usted nos escucha.
Okay, ya está su hija, pero necessitamos al departamento de salud.
No se vaya.
We can't hear him very well.
I don't know what's going on now.
Move to hold this item to the call, the chairman.
Motion by the president repos to uh move to hold to call the chair.
Hearing and saying no objections, so order.
Uh next up on our 9 15 a.m.
agenda, Fadi who's Fadi W.
Hussein, agent for Fadi Petroleum LLC, filling station, food dealer, and weights and measures license renewal application for Clark's food at 3434 West Oklahoma Avenue.
Is Fadi W.
Hussein present?
Yes.
Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
Thank you.
Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?
Yes.
Please state your name and address for the record.
Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
53215.
Thank you.
Miss Lopez, are there any holds?
Uh no holds.
Sergeant Corneh, is there a police report?
On 2126 at 534 p.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to a theft.
The business call regarding a subject who took items and fed without pain.
On 527-26 at 416 p.m.
check.
The business call regarding a subject who appeared to be confused and stated they escaped from the hospital.
The subject suffered from dementia and was conveyed back to a local hospital.
Would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?
Yes, um that uh incident, the lady that came in from the hospital.
I think she was on drugs or something.
At that time, uh you did call the police.
She was confused and didn't know where she was.
Okay.
Uh does the committee have any questions about the police report?
No.
Uh no questions.
Okay.
Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?
This is scheduled for an objection, right?
Yes.
If you want.
Yes.
Um we um scheduled this uh applicant because uh actually Alderman Bergellis let my office know that he was able to purchase um gas after the businesses, the agents um closing time.
Um so we did we have reached out um to Mr.
Fatih.
We appreciate um him being responsive.
He did indicate to us that he is no longer um allowing that to happen and he's keeping to his hours.
We call the uh northern equipment and they came and programmed it to shut off as at the time we close.
Okay, very good.
Um so with that, um I've I know you guys uh sent me an application for uh 24 hours, but we don't want to open 24 hours.
Okay, thank you.
And I alderman Bergellis may want may want to speak.
I'm not sure, madam chair.
Uh thank you.
Uh so a number of gas stations in my district were uh operating uh after hours uh when I stopped by and checked at uh your uh neighbor across the street across Oklahoma Avenue in the uh in my district, uh I noticed that there was some getting gas at your station.
Uh so I went over there and and got guests also um brought brought it to the attention of the uh older person for the uh the 8th district.
Uh the locations in my district wanted the 24 hour license.
Uh and I it's important to um if a business is open, be open.
Uh lights on, staff there to uh uh you know work on something.
Uh so I appreciate your uh decision to um yeah, we're rather close at uh 12 yeah 12.
Yeah, and I and I appreciate your your decision to do that.
Uh I actually wanted to close earlier, but you know it's yeah.
It's been like that for since before I bought it.
We didn't know that uh um even before I bought the gas station five years ago or six years ago.
It was all the pumps were always on, so we were never notified that we had to shut them off at the time that we close.
Yeah, I mean the the problem is if the if the pumps are on and the lights are off uh that uh bad things could happen.
Cameras can't see.
I understand.
Right, thank you very much.
All right.
Yeah, um that's uh madam chair.
I thank you for uh appreciate that responsiveness and I would like to move approval.
Okay motion about the person in Zamaripa is approval and hearing and saying no objections to that motion, so ordered.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr.
Fatty.
Madam Chair, the health department is on the board.
Okay.
So um Otterman, yeah, Otterman Jackson moves to reconsider the nine ten a.m.
agenda item.
Francisco Ortiz Hernandez, agent for Takeria La Vicinidad LLC, food peddler license renewal application for a taqueria la vicinidad at 1401 South 38th Street.
Uh Mr.
Ortiz Hernandez.
Okay.
Just making sure you're still with us.
We have the health department one.
I don't even know what part we were with.
Can you confirm whether he has whether with him or not?
Mr.
Uh Ortiz, do you have a interpreter with you now?
Oh yeah, here.
There she is.
Great.
Okay.
Wear them both in now.
So can we swear you um swear your interpreter in?
Can you raise your right hand to be sworn in?
In the health department can also um Courtney, can you raise your right hand to be sworn in?
Do you son of you from the dependence of the burger of the state of Wisconsin that the test you are about to give is it through the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Yes, yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So shall I go through everything again?
Because he didn't understand it.
I think so.
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
Um are you in receipt of today of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?
Yes.
Please state your name and address for the record.
Miss Lopez, are there any holds?
Hold for inspection.
Sergeant Corneho, is there a police report?
On 127 26, the applicant was cited by the Milwaukee Health Department for license of food for food license violations.
On 4926, they were convicted and fined 1658 dollars.
Does she need to translate that?
No, we got that.
Okay.
Would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?
Yeah, we just said that.
Oh we fixed the problem with the water, and also that we did pay the citation.
Okay.
Thank you.
Do we need it?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Uh the interpreter, can you give us your your name and address?
Oh, yeah.
Okay, sorry.
Adriana, uh Victoria Ferrera.
And then my address is 1625 South 63rd Street.
So with the West Allis, Wisconsin 53214.
Thank you.
Does the committee have any questions about the police report?
Author person repo any questions about the police report.
Um well it's as it's related to uh the health department.
Go to the health department.
Okay.
Please, thank you, manager.
All right, so we are here as you have an objection from the health department.
We have Courtney here.
Um you've already been sworn in.
You can just state your name uh and appearance and and start your testimony.
Good morning, everyone.
So Courtney with the Milwaukee Health Department.
Um we are just here.
Courtney, one second.
Can I get a last name?
Yes, it is Langosh, sorry.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
So we are just here to talk about the two incidents or reports of the truck being found operating without water on two occurrences.
Those were both those happened in January of 2026, and then in December of 2025.
So both within the last year, and then there was the citation that was already mentioned for the no water.
So right there, so he can so she can translate.
Yes.
So la masqueradia, uh reporter in December yet in the middle.
Okay, so with those two with those two incidents, obviously hand washing is just incredibly important to prevent the spread of illness.
And that's what we just want to emphasize going forward is that the choice should be made to not operate if you know that the truck does not have water for hand washing.
Okay.
Okay.
So I am de la barrasmanos is muy importante.
All right.
Thank you.
Does the committee have any questions for this witness?
Madam Chair.
Uh Zamoripa.
So Courtney, thank you for your testimony.
Um, and we appreciate your work for the Milwaukee Health Department.
I do see that the applicant was caught twice, once in December, um, of 2025, uh, operating the food truck with no water, and then a month, less than a month later in January, again, caught operating the food truck with no water.
Um did you go back again to see um that the problem was ultimately ever rectified, or I just get concerned that I hear him saying that he rectified it, but he clearly did it twice um in the span of less than two months.
So just wondering how if you believe that he has since rectified this issue and not operating with um without water in the winter time.
Yes, so both of those orders to cease uh resulted in a one-day closure, which is our minimum standard is a 24-hour closure, and both times they were reopened at the base, which is our standard protocol.
So in those moments of reopening, it was all fixed.
It is very concerning that a month later, as you mentioned, the same problem persisted.
So that's kind of really what we want to drive home is then if something malfunctions, we just don't want to operate.
And can I just ask a follow-up, madam chair?
Yes.
Courtney, does the health department give any guidance to um food truck operators?
Because this most often happens in the winter because their water lines freeze because it's so cold.
Is there any guidance the health department gives these um business owners as to what they can do to ensure that their water um is not freezing up on them?
I would definitely offer that.
Yes, we do in at the pre-inspection at the time of initial licensing.
We ask if they do plan to operate in the winter and then what their plan is to make sure that they do have water.
Um we can always make suggestions of things that we've seen like heat blankets, insulation.
Um sometimes there's heat tape that goes on piping.
Um, and then just kind of the basic run of the mill of fully emptying the tank at the end of the night will help prevent those freeze-ups.
Um so we do offer education and just kind of food for thought of have we thought about that, but given that we are not plumbers per se.
Well, not per se, we're not plumbers.
Um that's kind of about as far as the advice goes.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
Um does the applicant have any questions for this witness questions only this on the table?
No, okay.
No, okay, thank you.
And this is in the eighth automatic district, autopsons and repo.
Yeah, I want to ask the applicant um what he did to remedy this issue with water lines freezing up during the winter.
Um, I know a number of options were given to him from the health department.
What did he ultimately go with to ensure that his water isn't freezing up in the winter?
Okay.
Um we followed the uh instructions of the inspector who came.
He instructed us that it would be best to empty out the water tank every night before um closing.
And in the morning, we would fill it back up and we would also put some sort of heating device in order to maintain the water um at a uh so it doesn't freeze.
So he's what type of heating device is he using?
Okay, yes, we used an insulation on the uh pipes so that it wouldn't freeze over.
Okay, good.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Any further questions from committee?
Um, I do have another thank you, madam chair.
Um, Francisco, thank you so much for um rectifying that issue.
It's a problem that a lot of food trucks have, so we just want to make sure um you you cannot operate without water available so your workers can wash their hands um and keep everybody safe.
Okay.
Um I do also want to note we did have uh Jackson Park neighbor reach out um with a complaint um indicating that you do take 43rd, I believe, either when you're on your way to your spot or on your way home at the end of the day.
Um apparently your truck is over the weight limit to take South 43rd, so just wanted to we our my office did reach out to you, but wanted to ask if you could take a different route.
Um and just try to avoid South 43rd.
Um this pretty much a lot of big throws I've been there.
Wait, are you I'm sorry, Soneda?
Can you ask me again?
You want to know for 43rd and where?
Yeah, we wanted to know the exact uh street that they are making the complaint.
So he takes uh Oklahoma, and he said that there's a pretty uh good amount of big trucks that pass through there.
So he just wanted to uh make it clarify it.
Oklahoma is great.
I'm asking if you can just uh avoid South 43rd, and it's South 43rd right along the park.
That's that's the complaint.
And Camino del Parque.
Okay.
Okay.
Does that sound like something you can do?
Yeah, yeah, that's what I guess.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Okay, thank you.
All right.
Well, with that, I'll move.
Um, I'll move for approval with a warning letter.
Okay.
The motion by order person repa is approval with a warning letter.
Any objection to a motion?
Hearing and saying none, so ordered.
Thank you.
Good luck.
Suerte.
Yes, yeah.
Thank you.
Uh-huh.
Next up on our 920 a.m.
agenda, Gloria D.
Diggs, agent for Splendid Care Bar and Grill Limited Liability Company, Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises, and Food Dealer licenses, renewal application, adding hookah services as type of entertainment for play-by-play at 3-9-10 West Fond du Lac Avenue.
Is Gloria D.
Diggs present?
Madam Chair.
Uh Otterman Jackson.
Um, no reason of scheduled because of uh tickets, but um I've been updated and gave it to license tickets have been paid.
Okay.
Are they here?
No.
So we no the tickets were paid, so they didn't think they had to come.
Uh so uh just check if there are neighbors and just gotta go through the process or I mean it's called.
Yeah.
Um there's an objection file.
Should ask if there's an A.
There is no objections on file.
Is there objections on file?
Lydia Melton, she contacted me after the ones are down.
No, there was no there was no objections at the time.
And only reason it's here were for the tickets when they were paid.
I'm sorry, did you hear Lydia Milton file?
I'm not sure.
So just read into the record and we can approve.
Ask for neighbors.
Ask for neighbors.
She's I mean, the individual isn't here.
Yeah.
Um, which poses somewhat of a problem.
Um, so but it is a public meeting.
Um, I guess you folks have the discretion as to whether or not to pass this um with the applicant not here.
Um any disciplinary action, I would I would warn against.
Because again, they have no ability to cross-examine any of the evidence and they don't have anything.
They're not here to testify.
So um anything except for approval or hold, I would warn against.
Um, understanding this is a um their hearing effectively.
Um, and that is them inclusive of the neighbors.
So I'll just ask for neighbors.
Sorry, write it in.
Right.
Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?
Yes.
Lydia Melton.
In that case, then we should hold it.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, uh, Ms.
Melton.
Um, we weren't sure if neighbors were here, so we're gonna move to hold this because the applicant isn't here.
You gotta hold it.
Yes.
We have to because the applicant isn't here.
Okay.
At that time, we'd be able to hear your testimony when it's rescheduled.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you for joining us.
Um, so the motion by Otterman Jackson is to hold.
Um hearing saying no objections objections, so ordered.
Uh next up on our 9 25 a.m.
agenda, we have Sheila T.
Gwynn, agent for options LLC, Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises, and Food Dealer License, Renewal Application for Options, restaurant, and lounge at 47, 47 North Hopkins Street.
Is Sheila T.
Gwynn present?
Please reserve morning.
Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
The assembly from the under defense and penalty suburbs of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true to hold truth and a few of the truth?
Yes.
Thank you.
Are your receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?
Yes.
Please state your name and address for the record.
Sheila Wynn, 3651 North 27th Street.
Milwaukee, it was not sent by three two one six.
Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?
On 10 625 at 12 34 a.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to a noise complaint.
On arrival, the business was closed and no law music could be heard.
However, it should be noted that the original call came in the previous day, 10525 at 1031 p.m.
On 331 26 at 8 37 p.m.
Walkie police conducted a license premise check.
On arrival, the officers observed three loaded AR-style rifles in a booth completely approximately 10 feet from where a customer was seated.
A search warrant was executed in which three semi-automatic rifles and three semi-automatic pistols were confiscated.
One of the pistols was uh located inside a freezer.
The agent was on scene and provided receipts of liquor for the liquor, however, it did not cover the amount of stock on site.
The manager arrived on scene and was arrested for felony possession.
All right.
Would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?
Yes.
Um first I would like to talk about the noise complaints.
Um we do a we do our best to make sure that all noise complaints are handled accordingly.
We have filed for a zoning, um, a no parking zoning in the front.
So no cars are able to park, play loud music.
We have staff that walk patrons to the car to make sure they uh leave accordingly right away.
Uh so I don't I think since our last committee meeting, we have did a lot of things to change how things are operated, and that usually is our plan of action when it comes to noise and complaints.
We haven't had anything since then, and as you can see, there when they did come at 10 31, there were not 10 31 at 12, there was nothing to um prove that that was it.
Um the second report, first and foremost, I just want to let you guys know that we take safety, very important in our area.
Um we we pride ourselves on trying to make sure our staff, our patrons, and our neighbors are safe.
Um, like I said, we we walk staff to the cars, we do a lot of different things.
This police report does read like there was a mess.
Um, but there it was a licensed inspection where they came and checked the liquor.
I would say 98% of our liquor was accounted for.
It was just uh a box of 24 wine coolers as well as gifts that were gifted to us when we opened up, which we couldn't readily find the receipts for.
Um, but we go through we go through legitimate liquor distributors.
So that that part of the complaint, I just want to make sure that going forward from that incident, we use it as really an opportunity for us to make sure that everything is on point.
And then everything right now, every liquor bottle, everything in our establishment is accounted for.
We have a section for receipts.
So if anyone was to ever do a liquor inspection today, they would have every single item in our facility accounted for.
Um, as far as that.
As far as the uh loaded um rifles and things like that, um, when they came in, it would the majority of the guns that were found were in a locked room.
I have pictures of it in my phone if you guys would like to see how it was operated.
Once the police said that they didn't like how that was stored, the next day I went out and got a really big gun lock, you know, legitimate lock uh safe that only I have the key to.
So ever since that we made sure we changed that operation.
Um, but for the most part, it wasn't a locked room.
Um, even my personal gun was confiscated.
I I hold a CCW's um the other guns that were found were also all accounted for.
Every gun that was on premises that the police took, someone, a staff member or myself was able to say that is mine, to security guards.
A lot of people have been getting um, a lot of cars have been getting broken to robberies in the area, things like that.
Um staff members don't feel safe.
So instead of leaving their guns, they will come inside and bring their guns with them.
But now since they confiscated every gun on the premises and even charge uh individual that was not even on premises, I just changed total operations.
If anyone has a gun, they they CCW, no patrons were found with guns.
So I know the police report reads where you you don't know what's going on.
These were all guns that were associated with myself or a staff member that was working on site that day.
Um now we have a locked gun safe that can be able to hold anyone that doesn't feel safe for leaving their firearms in their car.
It's locked and it's and only me or um whoever my person in charge is for the day has the key.
Does that address everything?
I think that yes.
Does uh committee have any questions about um the police report?
Any questions from local order on Jackson about the police report.
Oh yes.
Uh first congratulations on coming down from 11 items to two.
Good improvement.
And um, so with the weapons, all the weapons that were confiscated or they're blown to employees.
Yes, employees are myself.
Um they all carry CCWs, and the ones that did not, I believe that the the police didn't write them up.
They dropped, they did try to charge another individual, but all charges were dropped.
Nothing, um, we're still waiting on our guns to be returned today.
So I don't know what the the background or the issues are with that.
But we really did change.
Like, if that was a problem, I don't think that we should be penalized for um the right to our safety bearing arms.
I carry a CCW, I know about safety.
I don't think that uh this being on the report as something that we did wrong.
Um we should be penalized for it.
Okay.
I mean, so the room I have a question about the room where the guns were it says it's an unsecured security room previously, so when the post it was like 30 officers between the post police department um licensing or or the check, it was like 30 people ramp checked the whole place, made patrons.
It was just a real it was a really scary situation.
I never been in a situation like that.
So if the room there's a locked room, so that room is locked with a door.
No one usually can go in there unless it was occupied by someone.
But we have staff at every point of the facility that's watching places.
So to me, that was secure, but to the police, that wasn't secure enough.
So since that was the issue, that's why I was like, you know what?
I'll just buy a big enough safe to put any gun that is registered to anybody.
Say like these are all guns.
It's not like they're like, you know, like unregistered guns or something.
These were all registered guns to people and everyone that was in the facility that day told the police, this is my gun, this is my gun, this is my gun.
Stilling, you know, that's the only like the the police report reads differently.
However, this is what actually happened that day.
I have pictures of how our it's like a it's like a little box like this.
So like literally locked door, um, a box.
This is where we do ID scans and all this other stuff.
The one person that's usually in there does all the security checks.
We have security in the front.
We want it's a lot of security checks.
We want to make sure our name, our neighbors, our patrons feel safe, and you know, my children work there.
So I want to make sure everyone's safe.
So I don't think that we should be penalized for, you know, like I carry a CCW.
I should be able to carry my gun into my establishment without them confiscating.
They still have my guns.
I even had a gun in the car.
They took every gun on premises, and the person that they charge it to, he wasn't even there.
He wasn't present.
He was at a books gang with other kids, and still and yet he came and dropped off receipts, never stepped in the facility, but they still took him to jail, charged him with all guns, even when we told them no, these are ours.
They were on our person, they were on our, you know.
But you know, it looks crazy.
Even the freezer, but we did, I did talk to my staff, we had meetings.
Hey, I understand you guys, we're it we're on Hopkins.
I understand you guys don't feel safe.
When you guys get in the facility, this is where you guys will store your guns from now on.
And I, you know, I was told it was okay.
Okay, uh, Orange Jackson.
Where do the employees park?
You have like um space in the back or around it, what the employees park?
We have about 15 slots in the back.
Um that's where my employees depart.
But you know, it's in an alley, it's dark, it's like, you know, it's a lot of stuff going on back there.
So, you know, people have the right, I think, to bear arms.
And um, especially if they're not under the influence or anything like that.
We definitely know all the rules.
I don't think we should be penalized as an organization because we're letting our our staff be able to bring in their guns inside and store them.
Okay, thank you.
Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?
Officer Walker is here.
Okay.
Uh does she have to be sworn in?
Yeah.
So please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
And then you can state your name and appearance and just go into your testimony given two and a half minutes.
Do you son here from the Benson Benatisa Bridger of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is it true, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
I do.
Thank you.
Go ahead.
So I'm also walker.
Um one of the partners for District 7 community liaison officer.
I'm here to testify on the extended hours.
I believe they shouldn't um have the extended hours just by um just the incidents with the search warrant that we did, how the room was unsecured.
Six gun was actually found in that security booth.
Um the gun in the freezer, the big drum attached to the rifle, so it just so much and going on in that area.
I get it, they feel unsafe, but it's still an establishment and just the surrounding area.
So we just feel like the extended hours.
I I don't think it's a good idea, just because the high crime in that area, the different issues, the noise complaint, um the reckless driving, so different stuff like that.
So all right, thank you.
Uh does a committee have any questions for this witness?
Uh Arnman Jackson, any questions for this witness?
Uh no questions, thank you for coming.
Applicant, do you have any questions for this witness?
Questions only.
Um would you say since our last committee uh meeting that you would say there has been approvement?
Or are you aware?
Are you do you I never met her?
I don't think, did I?
No, um I started off when y'all first opened up out of one did y'all um set hit.
So that's before y'all started to change everything.
I started to do that, and then I went to a different department and now I'm back here at seven.
So I'm back helping out the CLOs because one of them is injured.
So I'm familiar with it.
Um just um any new updates on it, I have not.
Because actually, Officer Sheets Walker, she's on vacation, so I'm filling in for her.
Okay.
Any other questions?
No, but I have a comment though.
After questions only.
Okay.
All right.
Um, I guess I'll let her do closing statement.
Oh, are there other neighbors present who wish to testify?
That's not other neighbors present to testify in regards to options.
Okay.
Um this is in the 7th automatic district.
Other man Jackson.
All right.
Um we have was the lice.
So I'll move approval to one letter, but I um disagree to the extended hours.
So deny the extended hours.
Yes.
She tested.
I don't see an extended hours.
No change, she would have to be amenable to amending.
Um sure.
Uh can you go into why though?
Is that am I out of here?
Sorry, what are the parts?
What are the current hours?
The approved hours are open at 9 a.m.
every day of the week, and then close at midnight Sunday through Thursday, and then 2 30, Friday, Saturday.
Okay.
And so oh, Honorman Brower.
Yeah, I just said some that's I was actually wondering about the current hours of operation because I'm just seeing a license renewal on here.
Maybe am I missing something here?
Is there is there a separate application for an extension beyond that, or don't we normally consider 2 30 to be a regular hours of operation for a class B.
Um anyway, can maybe I can get a clarification on on what exactly we're adjudicating here.
Is there two applications?
One that we can approve and then another one that we can deny that would be our extended hours, or am I uh can you please clarify?
Do you want to call it that hours?
Initially, that's what I thought.
Um I believe there's a question of the licensing, but I think we're phrasing that it doesn't licensing.
Sorry, could we repeat the question?
Just wondering, um, because the the local order was saying that we don't we don't want to we want to maybe deny the out the extended hours, but I'm I'm not seeing a application that we're considering on here for extended hours.
So I'm just wondering how we would actually proceed with that if if we usually allow class B's to be open until 2 30 or 2 o'clock on Fridays and Saturdays.
Um, what exactly were like we'd be voting down or up if there's two separate applications or just one, or this would be um by the applicant to reduce their hours, or can you just clarify exactly?
Yeah, so what's in front of you is just a regular renewal.
There is no request to change their hours.
Um actually, hold on.
So then we're looking at we would so then what you're saying uh is we won we want to reduce the current hours of operation is what your intent is, or if yeah, if if there's a request to reduce the out the already approved hours, it would be up to the applicant um to amend or change the hours.
I thought we would have to do it.
It's just a regular renewal no changes.
Oh, so I don't know.
Yeah, that yeah, the hours are until 2 30, Friday, Saturday.
Friday and Saturday.
Friday, Saturday until 2 30.
Then 12 every other Monday through Thursday.
Yes.
So that's not even a question anymore.
No.
Oh, yeah.
So thank you.
As it is.
Well, it's just a renewal.
There's just a renewal.
Okay.
So the motion by Otterman Jackson is approval.
Uh any objections to that motion?
Just approval.
Not with a warning letter?
With a warning letter.
Moving approval with the warning letter.
Any object objections to that um approval?
Motion, hearing and seeing no objections, so ordered.
We were I thought we applied for extended hours.
You already have yeah, you're already open till 2 30 on Friday and Saturday.
No, we're asking because we were told at our last if we operate with little to no issues that we could possibly entertain opening later hours on certain days of the week, other days of the week.
That's necessary.
Madam Chair.
Yes.
So last year they did apply for or they submitted a request to change their hours to open at 2 a.m.
Sunday through Thursday.
That was denied in September of last year, so 2025.
Um the renewal in front of you, you didn't list any changes, so there's nothing requested.
If you want uh to change your hours again, that would be a separate application.
And then it would, if the older's not in favor of it, it would come in front of the committee again.
Okay.
Okay, no problem.
Okay, I understand.
Correct.
Okay.
We have to wait again.
No, no, no.
It can happen mid year.
Mid year.
So it doesn't have to happen in conjunction with your annual licensure.
At any time, yes.
So the committee, it doesn't have at any time you can request for changes to your license.
It can be mid year.
Yes.
All right.
Thank you.
Have a good day, guys.
Uh-huh.
You too.
Next up on our 9 30 a.m.
agenda, Sammy Salim, agent for Oakland Cafe LLC.
Food dealer license renewal application for Oakland Cafe at 2979 North Oakland Avenue.
Is Sammy Salim present Hello?
Please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
Do you songly from on the dependency penetration perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give?
Is it true the whole truth and nothing with the truth?
Yes.
Thank you.
Are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?
Yes.
Please state your name and address for the record.
Yeah, my name is Sammy Salim.
I'm the owner of Oakland Cafe, the address 2979 North Oakland Avenue, 53211.
Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
No holds.
Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?
Yes, uh the agent was cited on 4525 uh 2122 West Lockheed for sale of cigarettes to a minor slash underage.
Uh says currently a warrant status for failure to appear, however, a fine was paid.
Thank you.
Would the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?
To be honest with you, we don't have cigarettes, we don't have any tobacco, you know what I mean, inside.
I don't know if it's the same address or no.
It's for the locust street location.
Yes.
This is locust street location.
So it's you were cited.
But this is different address.
Yes.
It is a different location, but because you were the individual that was cited, it's on your police report.
Oh so you were cited at a different location for sale of cigarettes to a minor.
That's going to show up on your police report.
The system under my name.
Under your name, because you're the agent listed for this location.
Okay.
So even if you know someone has a DUI in a different county, it's still gonna show up on their police report for the purposes of licensure.
Um and it's to this committee to decide whether or not there's a nexus that's formed between the offense and the license that saw it.
Sure.
Yeah, sure, yeah.
No problem.
So but but I think last time I kind of like I do the renewal and for the entertainment for my uh dislocation.
You we talk about it kind of like about kind of like it's not gonna happen again, you know what I mean?
And we solve the problem, you know what I mean?
And we pay the fees, you know, that moments, you know.
Does the committee have any questions about the police report?
Uh Otterman Brower, any questions about the police report?
Uh no, we uh brought it up last night at the community meeting, and um I guess maybe I would like just a confirmation just here for the committee that you know that this is something that you're gonna this is this is for the location a couple few blocks away.
Um and I just want to get a confirmation from you, Sammy, that uh you know you guys are gonna be implementing better practices of the location to prevent something like this in the future.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, so do you guys will you guys have like uh you guys will be carting everybody or what's what's uh can you elaborate on what you'll be doing?
Yeah, to be honest with you, kind of like we kind of like we meet yesterday kind of like with the neighbor, you know what I mean?
I mean, and we talk about it kind of like some people they have kind of like some issues, kind of like they say we've kind of like the they need us to kind of like clean around the business to make sure kind of like the noise is not loud.
Yeah, yeah, but and just to correctly quickly just jump in there.
I I know what you're about to talk about, which is the issues with with the location that's being uh discussed right now, but I I just want to get a confirmation that at 2122 West Um locust that you'll um that you'll in the future going forward with that location that you will be carting people and verifying ide identity and push reform before sale going forward.
Okay, just to make sure that this doesn't happen again at any locations that you operate.
That was just tied to you there.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, for sure.
That's just what I wanted to ask.
Thank you so much.
And I believe this was scheduled for objections, right?
Um are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?
I am a neighbor of the community.
Okay.
So we have uh one neighbor present to testify.
You can please raise your right hand to be sworn in.
Uh the Sony inform on the dependency penalty subbridge of the state of Wisconsin that the test you're about to give.
Is it true the whole truth and a pimp with the truth?
I get thank you.
Then you can state your name and address for the record, and then you can start your testimony.
Yes, my name is Marlene Richie's.
Um my address being 2636 North uh North Oakland Avenue.
Um, and uh I am a patron as well as a student in the area um and a neighbor to the business.
Okay, you can go ahead.
Yes, and just to clarify, um, I'm testifying on on the petition that was placed against Oakland Cafe, correct?
Yes.
Correct.
Okay.
So I I was present as well as at the meeting yesterday um with Alderman Brouwer as well as Sammy.
Um just clarifying that um I do support the renewal um of the license for this business.
Um, and also that when we were present at the meeting yesterday, we did discuss um the complaints of the neighbor regarding the noise as well as the pollution outside, which the business owner did agree um that they would go about um cleaning the area every morning um prior to opening the business, um, as well as putting an effort to communicate with any neighbors um and putting his information in the business um in case of any future complaints or concerns.
Um also it's just um uh business that I support myself as a student um uh at UWM.
Um I personally didn't have any issues or any troubles that I saw with uh the complaints that were placed against this business.
Um however, uh Sally Sammy did show that he was understanding and is willing to do um anything on his behalf or part of the business to resolve any issues with the neighborhood.
Thank you.
Uh does the committee have any questions for this witness?
Uh Brouwer, any questions for this witness?
I don't, thank you.
Do you have any questions for this witness?
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Do we have any other neighbors present wish to testify about Oakland Cafe?
See any other neighbors?
I'll go to Ottoman Brouwer.
Thank you so much, Madam Chair.
Uh appreciated.
Yeah, so uh just to go over here.
We this is before a state.
We did receive a um our office received an objection related to a noise complaint.
Um we held a committee meeting last night at the premises um to discuss um the situation there.
And and so out of that there came a few things that I'd like to um with the applicant's consent to move to amend their plan of operation.
Um so I've just got two two things that came out of that um meeting.
Um the first thing and Sammy, maybe you can confirm this is what we agreed to the meeting last night.
The first thing would be that the applicant is willing to share their phone number through our office, um, to be contacted by neighbors if there is any issues with noise.
Um, and um also we'll post somewhere in the business.
Um, but yeah, just on a piece of paper, post the phone number for uh complaints or neighbors to reach out to.
So um I would that'd be the first amendment I would like to make.
Um I'll share the second one right now, but then I'll make them both separately.
The other agreement that came out of the committee meeting last night was that the applicant will um at opening every day clean the premises outside of their um or yeah, clean the sidewalk, pick up any trash, excuse me.
Pick up trash outside of the um premises um every day at opening.
So those are two separate things.
Do you want can I make those in one motion or should I make two separate motions?
Two separate, okay.
Are you going to be just the posting inside the building, not posting for or sharing through either okay?
Just as thank you.
And then city attorney's office was just clarifying some of the how that amendment language works.
So I first would like to amend um the plan of operation.
Oh, yeah.
And Sammy, that's what we agreed to within the for sure, yeah.
Great, cool.
So uh the first amendment I'll make then is that to amend the plan of operation to uh post inside the business, um prominently somewhere a um the phone number for Sammy that neighbors or others can reach uh him at.
Okay.
So the motion by Otterman Brouwer is to amend the uh plan of operation to show that the agent will post contact information um in the business for a customer.
We will, yeah, for sure.
Um order.
And then Madam Chair, the second uh uh amendment I'd like to make to the plan of operation would be to um pick up litter and trash outside of the business, um uh immediately outside of the premises, um, every day of operation at the beginning of operation of the business.
For sure.
I agree.
All right, could you repeat that?
Yeah, just uh to clean to pick do a litter pickup outside of the business um every day at opening.
Uh the motion by Otterman Brouwer is to amend the plan of operation to reflect that cleanup will happen every morning at opening.
We will do it.
Um hearings and no objections to that.
So order.
All right.
Other man Brower.
Yeah, and then I'd like to um given that, you know, we did review the uh the objection.
Um I just want to note for the record and for everybody present and listening that um in the community meeting we did um have other neighbors present as well.
This this uh objection is rather detailed.
Um but um as far as a noise issue that was occurring, um, but with the other neighbors present and members of the community present, we f did not find another individual that sh any other individuals that shared the noise concern um that's reflected in this um objections.
So and other, you know, there's been no other contact to our office regarding the the noise the applicant did share at the community meeting last night that they you know are open to receiving complaints from neighbors that them that they're not playing music loudly.
So I'm just not sure about the the facts of the situation.
Police did arrive on scene and didn't find uh no uh noise issue according to the applicant.
So I you know just want to you know note that so um you know, given all that, um, and given some of these commitments to being in contact with neighbors that the applicant has made, and now we've amended uh the application to reflect.
I would like to move approval.
Okay.
The motion by Otterman Brouwer is approval.
As amended as amended, hearing and saying no objections to the motion, so ordered.
Thank you.
Good.
Okay.
What's this one?
Next up on our 940 a.m.
agenda, we have Aaron Olson, agent for Aero Management.
Is this Aero yet?
LLC Class B Tavern, Public Entertainment Premises and Center for the Visual and Performing Arts License Renewal Application for the Miramar Theater at 2844 through 46 North Oakland Avenue.
Is Aaron Olson present?
Yes.
Good morning.
Uh good morning.
Please uh raise your right hand to be sworn in.
The assignment from on the independent penetration bird you have the state of Wisconsin dead test you might give.
Is it true the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
I do.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility that your application may be denied?
Yes.
Uh please state your name and address for the record.
Aaron Olson, 1680A, North Franklin Place, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53202.
And can you also please state your appearance?
Good morning to the vice chair and members of the committee.
Attorney Brian Randall of Amundson Davis, one one one East Kilborne Avenue here in Milwaukee, representing the agent and the business.
Pleased to be here this morning.
Thank you.
Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
No holds.
Sergeant Cornejo is a police report.
Uh sentence was six months for a vote license.
Driver's license on 513 26 at 124 a.m.
Officers responded to a fight.
Several subjects did engage in a physical fight inside of the business and resisted officers' arrest.
On 6326 at 132 a.m.
officers responded to a fight.
A group of 12 to 15 subjects engaged in a physical fight or physical inside of the business that extended out into the public street.
Will the applicant like to speak to the items on the police report?
Briefly, on numbers 21 and 22, there's a commonality in the detailed reports that this staff, the security staff was cooperative in both instances.
We provided security video footage to the police department in number 21 that individual who was resisting arrest.
We're pleased that that individual was in fact arrested, so we appreciate the cooperation with the police department.
We have a good working relationship with them.
We're going to continue that.
One of the quotes in the detailed report is that staff is very helpful with controlling the crowd and assisting police.
That said, we know that these incidents are serious, and with our operational plan, we'll continue to address them and be proactive.
We will later on give some updated responses and details with respect to our updated operating plan, but that's the response, at least at this point on the police report.
Okay.
Does the committee have any questions about the police report?
Honor Brouwer, any questions about the police report.
None at this time, no.
Okay.
Are there any neighbors present who wish to testify?
Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present who wish to testify.
This is scheduled for objections.
Um I will give it to Yeah, thank you so much.
Um we held so there's there's a few different things going on here.
Um, first of all, there were some um, as you'll see in the packet in March, there were some neighbor objections to noise.
So we held a um a smaller community meeting, I believe in the end of March, I don't recall the exact date, uh, with Aaron with the and Aaron and some immediate neighbors right next to Miramar.
This is right, this is a um this is Miramar's right at the corner of or near the corner of Oakland and Locust.
Um, and the neighbors just directly to the south were um, I believe it was um our the Thursday night event that was going on that was that was causing some noise.
So we had a community meeting about that, and in that community meeting, the applicant um and Aaron committed to um doing everything he could to reduce the amount of noise.
Basically, the issue and the also the issue in other complaints is when patrons leave, they're being loud, they're disrupting um you know, people you know, there's a lot of houses around there too, so they're being disruptive around that and waking people up.
So, what Aaron committed to was to do his everything he could to reduce the noise um from the Thursday night events.
Um, and then if not, they would end those Thursday night events, and that is what Aaron has done at this point.
So Thursday nights uh at Miramar.
Um, I forget exactly what the event is is called.
Maybe Aaron can or Aaron or um yeah, Brian can um elaborate further, but basically that was that was ended, and um at the community meeting that we held just a couple weeks ago.
I'm forgetting the date that we held that meeting, but we held a community meeting just uh last week.
Um at that committee community meeting, the neighbors immediately there did testify that that has reduced a lot of the noise issues.
Um another noise issue that was brought and is in some of the complaints and is um is related to Tuesday night, R and B night um at Miramar.
So that was also the topic of the community meeting that we held last week as well.
And in that community meeting, um what Aaron Aaron actually committed to several things that I actually I did forward that email to you, Yadiris, so you can um put this in the record.
But there were several commitments from the business uh regarding Tuesday nights as well uh that were made, which our office really um appreciated.
Um I can read those here in a second.
Um, but overall, the um the community meeting um when we laid out some of these agreements, it did ameliorate for most of the vigiles, not not everyone present, but for most of the individuals present uh who were neighbors, it did ameliorate some of their concerns.
Um basically the gist of the main concerns with Tuesday nights with RB night um at Miramar is individuals who are leaving, um are going to their cars, they're playing music at their cars and and being rather loud in some residential areas.
So um to address that, what Miramar has committed to is to um have their security, and they had been doing this as well, but they're gonna be more robust about it, have their security um addressing individuals who are in their cars who are who have left RB night, who are in their cars playing music, and they're um so as part of that commitment.
The first thing that they committed to was more security, uh and uh specifically their security addressing places like Geneva Place, which is right across the street, and Walgreens uh down the street on the other side of Locust on Oakland.
Um that's one of the the pieces of our agreement.
Um additionally, Aaron's committed to um communicating with our office weekly um and providing reports on how RB night goes.
Um, and just any offering anything to our office, which I did receive your report from last week, Aaron.
Thank you.
Um, and um the other commitment that was made was offering phone number to uh phone number to neighbors, um, which was offered at that meeting, and it will be available to anybody who requests it.
Um another issue that um was brought up as a concern was people who may have caused problems at other venues showing up to Tuesday nights.
So, what the uh what Aaron is doing is adopting uh patron scan.
Um, and so that's gonna allow them to be able to flag anybody who has been a problem at other venues that are also using the patron scan platform and not allow admittance for those neighbors.
Um, and then additionally, what we're gonna do, the fifth thing um is have a follow-up community meeting uh towards the end of September to um ensure compliance and check in with neighbors to see if things you know have improved.
So those five things um as part of our plan going forward.
In addition, you can also see in the file um that Miramar was designated a nuisance property by Mocky Public Uh by Milwaukee Police Department and so MPD.
Um there is also an abatement plan that's in the file that looks like was you know accepted by MPD um as an abatement plan that's in the file.
There's some correspondence around that.
Everything that's in the abatement plan either augments the agreements that I just read out loud or offers additional things.
Um just wanted to you know give everybody the background on what's going on here.
Um with all that said at the community meeting.
I'm I was happy to report that, or I am happy to report that for most of the neighbors uh present at that community meeting, um, that these steps ameliorated concerns and and they were willing to support a renewal um for the applicant.
Um that's not everybody, but um most of the uh neighbors present uh were satisfied with some of these um with all of these feet uh steps that we're planning on taking uh with our office and with uh with the applicant here.
So um I don't know if we I don't know if we want to give time for the applicant to address uh these things as well, madam chair, or if I should just make a motion right now, or given that there weren't any other neighbors present to add additional testimony um to what we witnessed at the community meeting.
What's the best way to proceed?
That's one chair, yeah, dear.
Uh Madam Chair, just answering our Alderman Brouwer, everything is under file.
There's like three separate um attachments.
Everything's in the file.
What do you mean?
Oh, yeah, okay.
Okay, Madam Chair.
Um I think we should go kind of more piecemeal uh with regard to the kind of five things that were addressed.
Um increased security.
Um we need to have a specific number.
So if we're going to amend a plan of operation with consent of the applicant, it has to be kind of specific, again, kind of binary.
Okay.
So if it's five, if it's ten, if it's six, if it's seven, if it's on Wednesdays, if it's gonna be on a Tuesday, like we need to know specifically in how many um that they're willing to be bound to.
Um it can obviously exceed that.
Um, but you know, we should have either set the you know the ceiling or the floor, as it were.
Um, and and again make that kind of binary.
Um the patron scan sounds like obviously something that can be included.
Uh that's a binary thing that we can include.
Um I guess increased security or general kind of policing down through um a kind of amorphous region, I guess, is a little bit more problematic, in so much as you know, we don't know when that's gonna take place, we don't know how that's gonna take place, and we also don't know the kind of confines of that necessarily.
Um so what we'd want to do, I guess again is with consent of the applicant, make sure that we have um really concrete examples.
Alternatively, um, because there is an abatement plan already ongoing, these amendments may be better suited for uh the next license period, in so much as the abatement plan kind of takes uh precedent, as it were, and so abidance by that abatement plan if it incorporates some of these things is going to be policed and monitored by MPD, with I guess more robust than it would be if it's simply an L an inclusion on the business license.
So you may it see fit to wait until the abatement plan takes this courts takes its course and then incorporate these specific measures that were agreed to um on a go forward basis because the abatement plan itself may include even more robust things that will then kind of fall off of the license or fall off of the plan.
Um and so again, I I don't know how you want to go forward with it if you want to include both right now.
Yeah, no, thank thank you, attorney.
I I do really appreciate that.
And I can go through each of these items here, um, ma'am chair, if that's if that's appropriate, we can go through and make some motions and talk talk through each of them.
Um I do I do know that neighbors do want some of these read at the table here and agreed to by the by the applicant.
So I don't want to wait on these sort of uh police abatement plan, even if the abatement plan already includes it.
Um, and I know that may seem pedantic, but like that was that was a commitment that we made at the community meeting that these be read at the table and agreed to by the applicant.
Um so as far as the security, I just want to ask the applicant um or Aaron um or Brian, um I think in your abatement plan you had a specific number of security, but maybe could we just I think it was Tuesday nights, I think I think I heard the number two, but what do you what do you guys have in plan?
So let's get that into the record, please.
If I may, and we'll try to streamline it in a way but recognize the commitment to read certain things into the record.
I thought Alder Brouwer really capsulated the key points, and I'm hearing what your counsel is suggesting.
But we would actually like item document number 14, which I think is entitled to payment plan.
This is our new plan of operation.
These are the characteristics and the details that attorney Gresham was talking about.
So to Alder Brouwer's question, though, the first thing that we will add more security, that's covered in numbers one and five of this abatement plan, which specifies uh that we'll be adding two additional security personnel.
So compared to back to our plan of operation where we wrote number six, that's now at least eight, which also is reflected in one of the police reports that we have between eight and twelve now going forward.
So we are committed to that.
That's a number one five.
Number one and five of document fourteen also covers our expanded scope.
Alder Brouwer mentioned Geneva Place, the Walgreens Court or other areas.
So that is, I think to attorney Gresham's request specific and providing those details.
Um weekly aldermatic three district offdates.
I think that's in a way covered by number six, but we would amend it right now.
That says we will continue, meaning open communication with district three personnel under the number six bullet of Milwaukee police, but I think it's police district one, Alder District Three.
We're gonna communicate with both.
So we would certainly maintain open communication with district three personnel, Alder Brouwer's office, as well as Milwaukee Police, which continues on under number six.
That was amended.
You guys updated that.
Okay.
Phone number to the neighbors is number eight under the neighborhood communication.
We've committed to that, and Aaron has in fact done that.
Number two on this document is the pr the patron scan.
Alder Brouwer talked about dealing with problem patrons who are known, whether at our establishment or others, that's the beauty of pay patron scan.
It's a new system Aaron's invested in.
And if other bars of other venues put people in as being a problem, smelling someone's hair, or starting a fight are two examples I've heard about.
That will show up on that person when they scan, and we may choose to deny them entry, and he's already done that.
So that's in number two, committed, implemented and underway.
And then I don't know that the follow-up meeting is one of these line items, but it's certainly as part of continuous evaluation and neighborhood communication.
So Alder Brower, we can read more in or confirm things, but we definitely want to confirm and we want document number 14 to be an amendment to our plan of operation because we are committed to doing this from the neighborhood meeting, which was July 6th, right after the holiday, so that's why it's all a blur to Alder Brouwer.
Um July 6th neighborhood meeting and then our ongoing dialogue and addressing the police department's concerns and follow-up.
Aaron, anything to add in that regard?
No, Madam Chair.
If they're willing to incorporate as an amendment to their plan of operation the document presented, that's fine.
We just have had pushback in in other contexts with other business owners that the plan is aspirational or in some way not, you know, going to be included in their business plan.
So that was my hesitancy.
But if they are willing by consent to include as an amendment to their business plan of operation, we can include that.
Um understanding, of course, there are some vague terms in there that may not be um something that we can kind of keep and capture.
Um, but at the same time, there's enough in there that are again specific enough and binary that we can um kind of hold them to and would ameliorate kind of the my concerns and also um you know theirs.
So I would add the entire abatement plan to the that's it.
They're okay.
Yes.
All right.
I'd move to the abatement plan to the plan of operation then.
Okay, the motion by Alderman Browers to add the abatement plan to amend the plan of operation to include the abatement plan.
Um hearing and saying no objections, so order it.
Uh and Madam Chair.
Uh Honor.
If I just want to get a quick and um I heard from Brian that uh maybe number six here coordination with Milwaukee police and district three.
Um, let me just make a clarifying amendment then to the plan of operation or with the consent of the applicant here that um we would have weekly emails to our office uh regarding uh Tuesday night um events with an update on what update and uh update on what happened on Tuesday night events or Tuesday night yeah events, yeah.
So I'd yeah, I would just move to amend the plan of operation include by consent, yeah.
If you guys are next time, could it be notice to your office of the weekly events?
What Aaron just suggests is maybe a monthly email with a list of the weekly events because he knows them in advance.
It's like a problematic, you know, week because so far since we've had the meeting, there hasn't been issues.
And so I will keep track of that, but let's say something does come up, you'll be notified immediately.
But I would just you know, I'd I'd prefer just to send a monthly um notice of all the all the Tuesday interactions and all the weekly reports.
We look under nine, it's unless there's uh you know some sort of issue that does come up.
Starting up a little bit reporting.
So we've got the post-incident report in there.
So you want to, I mean, do you want weekly or I mean I mean I will what we talked about at the community meeting was having something, even just a few sentences emailed over, even if nothing happened to my office.
Um I guess I just don't want to be penalized if let's say I miss a week or something, you know.
I think this could just be by simple agreement, it doesn't necessarily have to be incorporated into the plan of operation.
So I mean that there is a middle ground here, one being that it's included in the plan of operation and becomes a binary wherein penalty could be ascribed, or it could be something that's again just kind of a voluntary.
Okay, so I guess you know, my my preference would be for it to be included in the plan of operation because that's what some members of the community wanted as a as a piece of what they thought was you guys demonstrating commitment in some way.
I I do hear I mean I I mean I don't want to end up in that situation, but um I mean here's what I would do is if we don't receive something from you, Aaron, I'll reach out to you.
Okay.
So that but I I do want to keep the agreement that we made at the community meeting that there'll be something weekly.
I will follow up if we don't get something weekly from you guys.
Great.
So that's you know, and that would be I think what that would extend to was until we meet in September.
You know, to the community meeting.
So in understanding that, I I just I don't know what that's gonna look like um as far as incorporation.
So it would be weekly communications between the older manic office and the weekly communication between the aldermanic office and the business.
I mean, would that suffice for both parties here?
I think that works through the September follow-up meeting that's to be scheduled or already scheduled business to you.
Yeah, that makes sense to me.
Yeah, okay.
We're gonna have to reduce that to writing for the purposes of inclusion on the business plan.
So um, and I'll I'll just kind of fly here, uh weekly communication between the aldermanic office and the business.
Up until the September meeting, or are we?
Okay, that makes sense to me.
Yeah, weekly communication, and let's just alter a little bit.
Weekly communication from Mirmar to the Aldermanic office until until the uh but you also said that you would reach out if he didn't.
So yeah, you're you're right.
Yeah, make it point out.
Thank you, Andrew.
Yeah, the uh appreciate that.
Yeah, okay.
So communication communication, weekly communication between the business and the aldermanic office until the September community meeting.
I would move I would move to amend the plan of operation then and we consent to that amendment to our plan of operation.
Thank you.
Okay.
So the motion by Ottoman Browers to amend the plan of operation to reflect communic weekly communication between the automatic office and the business.
Correct.
Hearing saying no september.
Until September.
Until the September meeting occurs.
Hearing and saying no objections, so ordered.
I'm true.
I remember how if there's nothing else then, um, since we've captured what we needed to capture regarding our agreements from the community meeting, I would move approval as amended.
Motion by order brower is approval as amended.
Hearing you say no objections, so ordered.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right, I'll take the gavel back.
Thank you, Madam Vice Chair.
And um we will move on to our 9 50 a.m.
agenda item.
Gina Grunwald.
Agent for yes, I am present.
Okay, thank you.
Um agent for crossroads collective LLC, Class B tavern, Public Entertainment Premises, Food Dealer and Sidewalk Dining Licenses application requesting instrumental musicians, disc jockey and patrons dancing for Star Bar at 2011 East Ivanhoe Place number one.
All right.
Um good morning, Miss Grunwald.
I'm sorry if I mispronounced that.
You're fine.
Okay, you're good.
Thank you.
If you'll raise your right hand, we'll get you all sworn in.
Okay.
Do you sound the from a depends on penalty so burger of the state of Wisconsin dead?
Is it true the whole truth and if you want the truth?
I swear.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
Is that good?
Um, good.
All right.
And Ms.
Grenwold, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?
Yes.
All right, thank you.
And will you please state your name and address for the record?
Yes, Gina Marie Gronauld at 2517 South Brisbane Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 53207.
Thank you.
Um all right, Ms.
Lopez.
Are there any holds?
Okay, and Sergeant Corneho, is there a police report?
No, no police reports.
Okay, and I see it's a new application.
Would you let us know a little bit about your experience and your plan for the business?
Yes.
Um I've actually been with Newland.
The I'm the agent.
The bar is owned by Newland Hospitality.
And I've been with Newland for 10 years now.
Um I originally opened the space when it was crossroads collective, and so I've lived through the reiterations of everything that's been in that building.
And this is a small small footprint, maybe 750 square feet.
So it it'll be small in footprint, but um we're excited to bring a new concept to that area.
Um we do a lot of work with the plaza, and so it will be nice to have a little more activation as Newland is a great supporter of the plaza.
Great.
Yes, I do like that plaza.
We're trying trying to make it better.
Nice.
And will there still be other um this is the place that had other uh businesses kind of they were able to have stalls in that area, like different restaurants?
Like a whole inside has been redone.
Um it was formally going to be Naughty Plates, but they have since moved up the street.
We have not found a new tenant yet, but it is definitely no longer uh bifurcated like a food hall was.
Okay, it'll just be the one one entity in there, the new new land folks.
It's single, a single entrance into that smaller footprint.
That is correct.
Memor I can clarify real quick.
Oh, very good.
Thank you.
Go ahead, Alderman Brown.
Yeah, thank you.
So this won't this this is yes, this is a new application um from an entity that has operated in this space prior, uh, with a lot of success.
Um the space, so the this proposal will be taking a portion of the space.
Naughty plates has uh moved to a new location.
Um, and they'll probably come before this committee at some point, but um this will occupy a portion of the space that was formerly occupied by crossroads collective.
The other portion of the crossroads collective space is still um from my understanding to be determined of what will happen there.
The stuff the space that is uh directly on the corner of um far well, the southeast corner of Farwell and North.
So uh, but this is this is a space.
This is maybe like um looking in the packet here.
This is just a little bit um in from that corner, and it's gonna be a smaller footprint um event.
So this um so star bar will be there.
Other applicants or something may come into the old the rest of the crossroads space.
Um, but this so this is just a portion of that, just so we're we're clear.
This will open right onto Ivanhoe Plaza, not onto the not to that corner.
Very good.
Thank you, Alderman Brouwer.
Any further questions from committee members or Alderman Brower at this time for the applicant?
It's back here.
All right.
Nope, I have no questions.
Um are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?
Okay, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.
We are in the third Aldermanic district.
Alderman Brower.
Yeah, thank you so much.
Um, so the um the applicant and and backed by Newland has operated other uh premises before Crossroads Collective was licensed, I believe the Class B.
Um like I shared, it'll be a portion of the old crossroads space.
Um we did hold a community meeting for this application um that uh and was it was noticed to neighbors.
Actually, we didn't have any attendance to that community meeting.
There was one objection that was filed here.
The objection was brought up with the applicant at um and that was about about potential for noise.
Um, and so the applicant did bring up that they were gonna do some noise abatement, and obviously, you know, with Newland being the operator here, new in partnership with Crossroads Collective LC being the operator here.
There's a there is an interest that I can see and was brought up by the applicant in not you know being so noisy that it would disrupt you know their own residence that they rent to above above the premises, um, just so everybody's aware that building that's on the southeast corner of Farwell and Prospect.
First floor is commercial, um is where crossroads was at one point, and then the next two or two or three floors above is um apartments.
So that's what the objection was that was filed.
You'll see in the packet.
Um, but that was brought up at the community meeting with the applicant, and so we um believe that they you know from what we've heard from the applicant, um, that they'll be you know successful in being able to abate that as best they can um as they uh start their operation.
So um, with all that, I would move approval.
All right, thank you very much.
Alderman Alex Brower moves for approval.
Any discussion?
Any objection?
Hearing none, so ordered.
Good luck to you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
All right, we'll move on to our 10 a.m.
agenda item.
Romy J.
Hodges, agent for Blue Fox Automotive LLC, secondhand motor vehicle dealers license renewal application with change of hours from closing 6 p.m.
to closing 5 p.m.
Monday through Saturday, and requesting three additional spaces for Blue Fox Automotive LLC at 3841 West Villard Avenue.
Hi there.
Hi, hi.
All right.
If everybody will raise your right hands, we'll get you sworn in.
Do you song you from on the depends and penalty subvertier of the state of Wisconsin that the testament we're about to give?
Is it rid of truth and of him with the truth?
Yeah.
Thank you.
All right, and who is Romy Hodges?
Okay, very good.
Good morning.
Um are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?
Yes.
Thank you.
And if you'll state your name and address for the record.
Romy Hodge, 3841 with Baylor Avenue.
Thank you.
If you'll also use the microphone, yes, thank you.
Stacey Gurnt, 3841 West Villard Avenue, Milwaukee, 53209.
Thank you.
Diamond Tate, uh Blue Fox Automotive of 3841 West Villard Avenue.
Thank you.
All right.
Um, Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
No holds.
Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?
No, no police reports.
All right.
Well, shall we do we schedule for an objection?
You want me to give it to you all day?
I only scheduled it because I was opposed to the three additional spaces.
Okay.
Um I think the lot is already so small, and I get calls already about people saying like when they get to the corner, they can't see around cars.
Um and so that's the only reason that you're scheduled.
I did try to reach out to see if we could talk about it before you got here and if there was some kind of compromise of I know like the letter said that you need to move cars and that's why, and you don't have enough space as is.
Um so that that's the only reason it was scheduled to see if there's some work around for the additional need of three parking spots.
We can work around it.
We all need it.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
I have no filter.
So yeah, I yell at them every day and move stuff.
Madam Chief.
Yeah.
Um there has been solutions in the past, especially as to corner lots.
Specific um specifying which height um certain cars could be at.
So if we could park mid sizes at corners as opposed to parking like larger, taller trucks so that people can see over them if they are um, you know, stationed in a car that may be uh, you know, light SUV or something like that, as opposed to, you know, yeah, a lifted truck, you know, at the corner.
Um just again, staging and stationing uh certain cars at certain heights.
Um that's worked in the past.
Um I don't know the particular layout of this establishment, so obviously you have the kind of on the ground experience here.
Um if that works, you know, obviously we can stipulate something on the business plan.
Um, but you know, if it doesn't, obviously, you know, this is always the time.
I apologize.
No, thank you.
Um, I think usually I mean they don't have a lot of SUV, I mean they have some SUVs, but not usually a lot of them.
Cars are usually smaller on the lot because a lot is small, I think.
But um generally I'm trying to think if you park them.
I mean, you could also stipulate to a setback or something like that, so that you give yourself you know three feet in front.
Um, you know, a lot of parking stalls or spots may be longer than they are wider.
Um, and if you can back them up away from the sidewalk, it may be you know helpful, but again, it depends on the how things are oriented and you know where people are looking.
Okay.
I do want to note I did hear her say that they would be good.
Yeah, that they're fine.
Passing on the three spaces for now.
But just wanted to I I can't move up.
I mean, I know you have to go through everything.
Um, well, I I just wanted to clarify because we would have to amend it amended if if you were willing to uh Mr.
Hodges to go ahead and forego the three additional spaces or what you were wanted to do today.
It would have to be an amendment you wanted to make.
Okay, uh we did we wasn't looking for any more spaces.
Oh, so if you're willing to withdraw that, we're just gonna stick with them.
And they were worried about me.
Or I'm gonna park if I come by myself, my protective heroes.
But even the guy across the street who owns the um automotive review shop, he's got a separate lot, and he said, Stacey, you could park your truck in the back by me.
It's a lock gate, don't worry about it.
Okay, okay.
Okay, so people are always looking out for me, and so I'm okay.
We're good with denying.
Okay, okay.
So, Mr.
Hodges, do you want to amend the application to remove the requesting of three additional spaces?
Okay.
Elder Woman Pratt moves to amend the application to remove the requesting three additional spaces.
Uh any discussion?
Any objection?
Hearing on so ordered.
And so with that, uh move approval.
Um, so with that, Alder Woman um uh Andrea Pratt moves for approval as amended.
Yes.
Any discussion on that motion?
Any objection?
Hearing on so ordered.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Happy in the district.
It's a true fast.
Have a good day.
You too.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good morning, everybody.
Where's your glasses go?
I think we're cool enough.
Okay.
Well, can I just congratulate Alderman Jackson?
I hear he's running for governor.
All right.
Moving on.
Um moving on to our 1005 a.m.
agenda item.
Jasmine Singh, agent for Javin, Capital Inc., extended hours establishments, filling station, food dealer, and weights and measures license application requesting to open 24 hours every day at Villard Mart at 3709 West Villard Avenue.
And I know the next one too.
Is it the same?
Uh-huh.
So different agent.
Okay, so we just have to take it up separately.
Okay.
All right.
Well, very good.
And I see Mr.
Singh, you have counsel here with you.
All right.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
Hi, everybody.
It's Mike Maestelman.
Very good.
And then uh Mr.
Singh, will you raise your right hand and we'll get you sworn in?
Do you saw me from on the Benz of the Supergirl of the State of Wisconsin that the test you're about to give is it to the whole truth and a few other truth?
No.
You do?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?
We are.
Thank you.
Um Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
No holds.
Okay.
Sergeant Cornejo is there.
Sorry.
Apologies.
There's a hold for occupancy and a hold for inspection.
I see.
Thank you very much.
Sergeant Cornejo?
Is there a police report?
Uh there's no police reports.
Okay.
Which is kind of shocking because when I got the ebook sent to me, it didn't have a police report, and I double checked, and it still didn't have a police report.
So I don't know, he didn't need to hire me.
Well, it's a new application.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's not unusual, but we do like the applicant to tell us a little bit about his experience and plan for the business given that it's a new application.
I understand.
Thank you.
Mr.
Singh, did you want to?
Yeah.
Like I used to like work at I have a like a lot of experience of gas stations.
Like I used to work as a manager of like uh at 55th and Lisbon other location locations.
And now I own uh one liquor store in uh West LS by 60th and uh uh mineral and uh like uh used to work at 35th, like uh managing the uh stations over there, 35th and Lincoln, like those locations out.
So I now I'm gonna like make it more like uh I own my own like restaurant I own by myself over there.
Uh this property, the other restaurant too.
So we will own by myself now.
I'll make like new signs, new landscaping, and a lot of new stuff.
I'm gonna do it.
I have like uh I already ordered it.
And uh so that's like I can do my best, you know.
To I will be there with my employed all the time to keep the property safe and try to do my best.
What I can do, I have like almost 20 years experience in this field.
So have you had any problems with the other locations?
No.
Never.
And you want but you want to stay open 24 hours a day with this one?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'll just say that's that's the reason it was scheduled because I mean that wasn't just approved, it's because it's 24 hours, it's currently operating um 24 hours.
I've had lots of neighbors reach out.
I've had um well, I'm not about to testify, but yeah, just um I'd yeah, I don't support the 24 hour opening.
And I've I've uh talked with Mr.
Singh as well.
Okay.
And um currently the the business that's there is open 24 hours.
Okay.
And that's the one that comes right after this.
Oh, right.
Okay.
All right.
Further questions from committee members for the applicant at this time?
All right.
Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?
At 3709 West Villard Avenue.
Okay, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.
Uh Attorney Maselman, would you like to speak?
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Um, like I said, I mean, it's not there's no police report whatsoever.
Um he hasn't had any other issues at any of the other locations, which obviously means he's operating them uh in a meaningful and and and good way.
Um and uh, you know, he's got experience, and there's nobody here.
Um elected that's against him.
Uh okay, I have some questions for either attorney Maselman or you mister Singh.
How what is your experience working running a 24 hour a day establishment?
Like four 15 years experience I have.
You've run uh business that's open 24 hours a day.
I I'm doing managing like at uh I used to work, I told you like I used to work for uh 35th and Lincoln, I working at 55th and Lisbon as well.
Those are all to 24 hour locations.
Like I we used to work over there, and we always take care very good, like you know, those it those are not on not mine properties, but I'm managing the same thing.
Now it's my own.
I'm taking more, you know.
So I will do my best.
And I will be there all the time with my employers.
So I will if any problem, I will take care.
Like I have more experience than them.
So let's see, you know.
I can do my best, what I can say to you right now.
It it that says a lot.
I mean, a lot of people come in here and they want to do that.
I will be spending 12 hours every day.
A license and they don't have any experience.
Okay.
I know you mentioned 35th and Lincoln, that's in my district.
I know you're not the owner of that business.
I wasn't going to be able to do that.
You worked there.
Yeah, you managed it.
Yeah, you back in 2008 and 11 that time.
Oh, that's a while back.
All right.
Alder Woman Pratt, did you have um rather?
Are you in you can see my records?
Okay.
Sorry.
Um are you have you had any outreach to neighbors in the area and to community groups in the area?
No, I mean not yet.
You have not.
Have you reached out to the Villard Bid at all?
There's a Villard Business Improvement District.
It's a business improvement district on Villard.
Have you reached out to them about your plan?
So we could hold it and he could go do all of that.
Are you willing to change our hours of operation to not be 24 hours?
We prefer to have 24 hours.
I know you prefer it.
Are you willing to Okay?
All right.
But I mean, if if we I mean I can give you the opportunity to meet with the Villa Bid.
I can give you the opportunity to um we actually have the president of the Villar Bid here.
Um right back there, Brian.
Um but so give you the opportunity to meet with them if you think there's something you can build towards and they can tell you what their vision is for Villard.
It it what you want to do and what's currently there does not align.
Oh, it doesn't.
No.
Yeah, just with what they want to do.
I know Marine Lampets is coming back, it's right across the street from you now.
Um yeah.
Like, did I hear a request for hold from you?
Huh?
Did I hear a request for hold from you?
Well, um I mean i yeah, but I mean I also hear what the Alder Woman is saying is that you know the the neighbors and the bid are probably not in support as of now without seeing a presentation.
Um but yeah, I mean uh and I always encourage, I just got involved.
I always encourage applicants and my clients to meet with neighbors.
Um and maybe the bid wants to speak now.
Let shall I let me ask, even though I know I did ask for neighbors that's okay.
I um Alder Woman did identify that the leader from the Villard bid is here.
Who who is it?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Did you wanna I know I I understand you weren't necessarily here for this item?
Um did you want to would would you like to speak on it?
Um I don't heard the location again.
The gas section on 37.
Okay, we'd have to swear you in if you're gonna speak on this item.
Will you raise your right hand so we can you don't have to if you don't know?
Yeah, I mean this is your being put on the spot.
Yeah.
Um I mean I just like I I'll just say that.
Uh we gotta swear you in.
We gotta swear you in.
All right, I'm gonna go.
All right, you're do your thing.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
If you'll state your name and address, and then yeah, go ahead.
It's Brian Rott.
Um I'm president of the Villard Avenue Business Improvement District, and um we're at 5151 North 35th Street.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Okay.
Um tell us what you were gonna say.
You know, without without knowing um, you know, particularly the business.
Um I I I think it's it's really good to um to get in touch with the Villard Avenue Business Improvement District, um, to let us know, you know, about your business, um, so we can let you know, you know, about different events um and ways that we can like grow support within the community.
Um the um I hear the you know the uh the 24 hours um thing and I I haven't heard um myself like any particular um complaints or anyone not wanting to have a 24 hour um or the gas station be 24 hours so I can't I can't particularly speak to that.
Um it you know sounds to me like you do have a lot of experience and um and there's not a record of crime at your establishments.
So um to me those are very good things.
Um and that's kind of all I can say.
Thank you.
All right, thank you.
If you'll stay there for questions, questions from committee members or elder woman Pratt for nope, no questions.
Um attorney, any questions for this?
Just briefly thank you so much for coming down here, not for us.
Yeah, um and and for being candid about this and open-minded and reasonable.
Um I just give you my car with my cell phone.
Thank you.
We'd be happy to to sit down and and and meet and go and go over our plan with you.
And and we should.
We know it's it's important to be good neighbors, obviously.
It would be great.
We'd love to get to know our neighbors like more and more the more we can build community.
There was no question that was not a question, but yeah.
Is that okay?
It was only supposed to ask.
But so you're willing to meet with him.
Very good.
I think we have a motion from the hour.
I'll move to hold.
I'll give you the opportunity to meet with the bid.
Um, see if you all can figure something out.
Um and also I'll want to connect you with other neighbors and neighbors that I've heard from.
I've done four neighborhood walks that started at this gas station with neighbors who live in that apartment building there.
I don't know if you've talked to them, Ryan.
No, yeah.
But they're not happy.
And so um, and most of what the pushback I'm getting is about the extended hours and the loitering and et cetera.
Okay.
But that's not his issue because he's a new operator, and so that's why I did not address it.
But may I?
So we have a motion to hold.
I'm sorry, there is a way.
You still want to speak on the motion to hold?
No, I think that's fair in either way, whether we get it or not.
It's nice to meet the neighbors.
Yes, right.
So I think that this will be a productive thing either way.
Very good.
Thank you.
All right.
Alder Woman Pratt has moved to hold this item to the call of the chair.
Any discussion from committee members on that motion?
Any objection?
Hearing none, so ordered.
All right, please be in contact with the elder woman and the bid.
And the other neighbors.
Thank you, Mr.
Singh.
I'll be right back.
Good luck to you.
All right.
We'll move on now to our 1010 a.m.
agenda item.
Gourinder S.
Nagra.
Agent for Villa Petromart Inc., extended hours establishments, filling station food dealer and weights and measures.
Licenses renewal application for Villard Petromart at 3709 West Fillard Avenue.
All right.
Mr.
Nagra.
Yes, good morning.
Thank you.
Good morning.
Is it true the whole truth and a few more the truth?
Yes, I do.
Thank you.
All right.
And also, um counsel, you're representing this agent as well.
Yes, Attorney Michael Maestelman.
On behalf of uh, we call him Gary.
Okay.
All right.
And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you.
And will you please state your name and address for the record?
Yeah, Glinda Negro, 6980 South 35th Street, Franklin.
Thank you.
Um, Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
No holds.
Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?
On 528-25 at 98 909 a.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to a sexual assault.
On arrival, the caller would not uh could not be located and requested cancel and requested to cancel the call.
On 6425 at 1254 a.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to a battery.
On arrival, the caller could not be located.
The employee uh and security stated they did not observe anything.
On 61125 at 517 p.m., walkie police were dispatched to robbery in the area of the business.
The business was cooperative with the investigation and allowed officers to view video surveillance, which captured some of the incident.
On 626 25 at 55 p.m., walkie police were dispatched to a drug dealing.
On arrival, the officer did not observe the vehicle or person described in the complaints.
Milky police were dispatched to a theft.
The business called regarding a subject who stole items and left the scene.
On 81625 at 8 37 p.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to the subject with weapon.
The business call regarding a group of juveniles that were upset because they refused tobacco sales.
The business call regarding subjects who were harassing customers.
Um the the second one is um where my client was calling the police, taking the initiative.
You know, Gary's been doing this for a while.
He knows that there's gonna be a PA 33, but it doesn't matter because it's important to try to address the issues there.
And the third theme of this is that he's cooperated.
Every time MPDs come there, you know, a lot of people come before you're like, oh, we couldn't find the video, or a person didn't know how to access it.
Gary runs a tight ship, everybody knows how to access the videos, and they did, and they cooperated, and the police report reflects that.
Now, this is you know, I say one of the more challenging areas, and that's why you see this, and unfortunately, that's the society we live in right now.
You know, I know everybody's trying to make things better for everybody.
Thank you.
Questions on the police report from committee members or Alderwoman Pratt.
Um that's my only question with it.
I will yeah, uh except that is a challenging area.
Would it be easier if you were not open late into the night during those challenging hours?
I mean, you have six of the calls are I think during extended hours, but I will tell you that a lot of the issues happen.
Are happening at that time is a lot of loitering, a lot of loitering, lots of issues with the daycare next door where people are not even able to drop off their children during the day because of the loitering that happens at the gas station.
Um other things, and the loitering is people are defecating along the side of the building.
Um there is a constant memorial in which people come and stand outside with long guns for hours on end near the gas station.
Uh MPD is aware of it.
It's the reason why I've had four neighborhood walks from this gas station.
Um at each time I've gone into the gas station and talked to the attendant on duty who said they would express to Mr.
Nagra, you know, what what the neighbors were saying.
They also said they would put up signage about no loitering, um, which I believe has been put up and also signs about not carrying guns inside.
Um but the issue persists.
Um so I just want to know like what is what is the plan going forward to do something to get to stop this.
I've had since I've been elected, three people have been murdered at this gas station in this parking lot.
Um I don't it being open this late, this it being this far away from a major highway.
Um I generally do not uh I don't know, just the the extended hours at this location I believe is an issue.
A few things uh may I and I do want to know like what you plan on doing going forward.
I I and my first question was do you think a lot of this could be rectified if you um limited your hours and weren't open 24 hours a day?
Well, uh what I'm looking at and if the Alder Woman and I haven't checked, but I I've always believed Alder Woman Pratt always believed her dad too.
Uh that there were 26 items on the police report.
Six of them happened, you know, uh after extended hours.
That's not that can you know a considerable amount of activity, but any activity is is too much, and uh everything that the Alder Woman cited is is is abhorrent.
I suggest, and I think we'll call MPD for a second.
Half of them are okay.
I'm sorry, I'm looking at the yeah, I'm I'm I'm looking at the bottom number.
I mean, we can go back and then we get the homicides unless you thank you.
Yeah, but we'll we're gonna have a septe for the police to come in here to see if there's anything what else we can do.
Uh lighting, you know, obviously.
I recently changed all the lighting.
It's a brand new I'm sorry, what is that?
I changed all the lighting on the outside.
Has parking been improved at all?
No, that's the issue, especially with the restaurant because people are trying to park to go into the restaurant, which causes an issue and arguments and all the lights, all the cannabis, everything lit is uh there hasn't been issues lately.
I have done that in the last two months.
Okay.
And we'll you know, when when we do the walkthrough with MPD, we'll have the police report, they'll have the police report and we'll say what in your professional opinion are ways that we can address this without putting our life in jeopardy.
Um again, you know, have you met with the Villard Bid as well?
Are you in are you part of the bid?
No, not yet, no.
Okay, so that'll be the second thing that we do.
Okay.
You know, I do note that in 2025 last year, you renewed their license with a warning letter, and I believe the same thing in 2023.
So we respectfully ask that it's it be renewed, presuming that we do what we're saying we're gonna do.
Okay, how come you're not a part of the bid?
Going forward, I wouldn't break.
Thank you.
I I did want to point out item 25 in the report.
Uh was not a call for service, not related to the business, but an extended hours time frame where the business was open and was able to provide video surveillance uh regarding a robbery nearby.
Um not not all of the not everything on the report is negative for the business.
Um if they weren't open at five in the morning, police would not have that surveillance footage.
The cameras probably still at work if they weren't with they wouldn't have gotten it when they asked.
And I have given the access to the police department where they're the fuseless system.
Oh, you have fuses, yes.
That's huge.
I mean, it shows that you know he's trying to do what he can do.
I always recommend all my clients that have establishments like this that they do fuses.
I just want to request you to give them another chance, and if the things don't approve next year, I can always cut my hours.
And he's going on the record saying that.
Building your plan.
What he wants to cut it, you would like to cut your hours.
You said if things don't get better by next year.
Oh, next year.
I mean you could build it into your plan if you want to.
Yes.
There's no microphone.
You could build it into your plan, but uh that I mean that's a measure that's probably a little extreme.
So thank you for that input.
Appreciate your assistance in that let's see if there's any neighbors present that we should testify on this item.
Will you raise your hand if you're here on this item?
Any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item?
Any neighbors on virtually that wish to testify on this item?
Villard Petrolmart at 3709 West Villard.
All right.
Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify.
It's me.
Okay.
Um elder woman Pratt, I'll give it back to you.
Okay.
I mean, I've expressed my concerns and they are the concerns of the people who live there.
Um you are not willing to change our hours.
Does uh is there a provisional in place right now?
No, he is closed currently.
Oh, you're closed.
You let your license lapse?
Yeah, he needed a provisional, but we had this.
It was this was scheduled already, so right.
You wanted him to come before.
Um you have a plan for cleanup in your plan of operation?
Yes.
You do?
What how often do you clean?
I I have a stocker like for 15 hours there.
He does the cleaning of the lot and then he does the stocking.
Okay.
Next time next time we go for the in the neighborhood walk, I'll be with you.
How long has he been how long have you had this?
Yes, three years.
And uh two of them was it was renewed with just a warning letter.
But you're um trying to sell the business to the applicant that just came before you?
Yes.
Which would be a different hearing.
Perhaps holding it and having a meeting with them together, uh Alder Woman.
I don't know.
Could be a good idea.
I mean, he's not even connected to the bid and he's been there three years.
If we do that, we would ask that the we have a provisional.
I think that's fair.
You know, we'll be happy to meet with anybody that the Alder Woman suggests we meet with.
But if you could give us a provisional.
Which doesn't mean you're renewing us.
It just means you know, we can operate until we come back here.
I think a provisional goes all the way to September or September 13th.
That's your fault because you guys are on vacation.
So when uh Ms.
Lopez.
It'd be 60 days from issuance.
We would probably, if approved, it'd be issued today.
So 60 days from today.
But since committee isn't until I think September 9th, and then council afterwards, we would have to extend it until then.
And she has to we have to provide a provisional if she's if we're holding it, yes.
Okay.
And we we agree to hold it.
Okay.
I'll do a provisional.
I'll give you the opportunity to meet with the bid.
Um come with the plan, come back with a plan for loitering.
Um yeah, and having met with neighbors and everything too, I can help you uh help get that together to make sure that you're able to sit down and talk with the people who are being most affected, which are those people who live in that apartment building right there on 37th.
Um and the daycare next door to you.
Okay.
And we could do uh, you know, we we can do two things at once, have the other oh yeah, yeah.
Yep.
So I'm uh move to hold, we'll have that meeting.
I'll approve a provisional.
Um there is an Alderwoman Pratt moves to hold the second of the call.
The chair, there's some discussion.
Alder member Dallas.
I just wanted to note that uh I'll support that motion to hold.
Uh but this applicant has locations uh in my district as well, uh, and with some also similar neighborhood concerns, although uh it took a while for the you know the window at the uh gas station to be fixed.
Uh it did get fixed, and I've never had a a problem um getting uh uh in touch with the business owner or uh having a call back or uh dialogue back and forth.
So thank you for saying that.
Very good.
All right, any further discussion?
Any objection to Alderwoman Pratt's motion to hold?
Hearing none, so ordered.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Very good.
See you next week.
Look forward to not sooner.
Yeah.
We look forward to his dialogue with the Alderman.
Oh, I think you look forward to seeing me next week.
That too.
Always.
Always always.
Thank you.
You guys have a really good legal advice.
Let me just thank you.
You know, you know the strong.
Um like all right, thank you.
We'll move on to our 1020 a.m.
agenda item.
Angela J.
Evans, agent for VMCB Holdings Corp, Class B Tavern and Public Entertainment Premises Licenses application, requesting disjockey, jukebox, adult entertainment, strippers, erotic dance, hookah service, bands, wrestling, karaoke, five amusement machines, poetry readings, comedy acts, dancing by performers, patrons dancing, and one pool table for Venom at 5048 North 35th Street.
All right.
Let's see, is it still morning?
Yes, good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning, attorney.
Good morning.
Do you want to identify yourselves?
Yes, thank you, madam chair members.
I'm attorney David Halbrooks on behalf of Venom and uh Miss Evans and Mr.
Ray are here as well.
Thank you.
And then will you two raise your right hand?
We'll get you sworn in.
Do you tell me you're from an independent member?
Disa Burger of the State of Wisconsin that the testimony about the give is it true, the whole truth, anything but the truth?
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
And then will you each state your name and address for the record?
Angela Evans, 5145 North Hopkins Street.
Michael Ray, 4750 North Hopkins.
Thank you.
All right.
Um Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
Hold for occupancy.
Okay.
Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?
Uh 2923, Michael Ray, 100% shareholder was charged with two counts of possession of firearm by a felon in Waikiki County Circuit Court.
Uh charge uh the felon possession was found guilty uh for count one and then uh two was uh dismissed but read in.
Three is approbation.
Uh three, twenty twenty-three uh Michael Ray, one hundred percent show hold shareholder was charged with felony bell jumping and possession of THC walking county certain court.
Uh bell jumping charge one uh was dismissed but read in it, and then uh charge two possession of THC uh was found guilty, uh paid a fine.
Uh the shareholders currently on probation for item number one, email notification to Wisconsin Department of Corrections on 3326 requesting they provide information to the license division regarding the probation slash parole status and the end date of the status.
Madam Chair.
Yes.
Um the Department of Corrections originally did reach out saying he was still on probation until July 13th.
Uh we reached out earlier this week.
They stated that his probation is over.
Very good.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Um questions on the police report.
Or I'm sorry, would you like to speak to the police report?
Um I don't think so.
That the the um business has been closed for approximately five years.
So uh the only issue was Mr.
Ray's um uh uh uh um uh matters from three years ago and now that is over with.
Um I would uh you you may also notice there's an agenda item next after this.
Yes um I would defer to Elderwoman Pratt um uh in terms of her preference here.
I uh there may be neighbors who want to testify, but I um I did notice in the file there was a business uh in the neighborhood that filed an objection.
Well let's let's oh yeah save that because we gotta we're still discussing the police report.
Yeah, I don't think there's anything to address uh with regard to that unless Mr.
Ray wants to uh address that.
All right.
Well then I'll go to questions unless you want to say anything brief on the police report.
I just made a mistake and took care of it, that's pretty much all and we see you've completed your probation.
And everything that they asked of me to do.
Okay.
Very good.
All right, thank you.
You'll remember that we delayed this principally because there was a kind of um flick.
There was some conflicting DOC guidance to this body um that put us in an awkward position.
So we wanted to wait until that was all clarified and we effectively had no conflict with DOC.
Um, so that was again why you're seeing it again.
Yeah.
Um all right.
Well, very good.
Any questions on the police report from committee members or Alderwoman Pratt at this time?
No.
Okay.
Um let's see.
Are do we have any neighbors present on this item that would like to speak today?
Venom.
All right.
I see three hands raised.
Three people here on this item.
Anyone here virtually?
Pink dumpsters.
Yes.
All right.
And Greg, is that Greg?
I can't see.
Are you there?
It just says pink dumpster.
Yes, uh, this is Greg.
Are you here on this item too?
Are you here on this item too?
No, I'm uh I'm virtual.
You got your little hand raised there, so I have your little hands.
No, he just said he's virtual, so he's responding to it.
But are you here on this item for Venom?
I for Venom.
Greg.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes, I am for Venom.
All right.
I see two people virtual for Venom.
Pink dumpsters and Greg, correct?
Right.
Correct.
All right.
Nobody else?
Nobody else?
Anyone else?
All right.
If Pink and Greg, if you'll unmute and raise your right hand.
And then you you guys here in person in the audience on this item.
Will you raise your right hand?
We'll get everybody sworn in at once.
The Usoni from the Benz of Paradise a Burger of the State of Wisconsin that the testing we're about to give.
Is it true the whole truth and a fing with the truth?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you, everyone.
All right.
Who do we take first?
The opposition, right?
Okay.
Who's here?
Against the application.
The application.
You three are here against the application.
Okay.
And then Pink, are you here against the application?
Uh yes, I'm just a comment on it.
Okay.
And Greg, are you here against the application or in support?
I know he's muted.
Okay.
Okay.
Are you against the application, Greg, or in support?
All right, I'll say against it then.
Okay.
Okay.
We'll see.
Okay, got it.
All right.
Let's start with the individuals here in the room.
If you'll come up to the standing mic, we'll take you one at a time.
And then you each will have two and a half minutes each.
If you'll start with your name and address and then go right into your testimony, you'll have two and a half minutes.
Thank you, sir.
How are you doing, sir?
How are you?
If you'll start with your name and address, and then you can go into your remarks.
Isaac Hamilton, uh, my address is N87 W27615 perennial terrace.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Go right ahead.
Uh I'm representing the church at uh 5174 North 35th Street, Chosen Generation Ministries.
And uh we have a church there, we've been there for almost 20 years.
And uh I believe the establishment is trying to get the license renewed.
Uh would not be a welcomed uh business in the area that we're trying to assist in cleaning up.
We have a bar that's across the street from us.
Uh we've had issues with that bar.
I'm thinking bringing another element into the that location that uh attracts the same type of um criminal behavior that it's done across the street from us uh would not be welcomed.
Thank you.
If you'll stay there, sir, for questions.
Any questions for this neighbor from committee members or elder woman Pratt?
No, thank you for coming.
Um I do want to ask.
So your this location that they're applying for, 5048 North 35th Street.
How close is your church to this location?
We're two establishments down the street.
Okay.
The library is on the corner.
We're just south of the alley there across from the library.
There's the barada property, the apartment building.
There's a stainless building there, and then I believe the establishment that's in question is uh next to the um stainless foundry.
Okay.
Oh yeah.
For clarity, I will add that it is um that that corridor is mostly light industrial, though.
So the two parcels between the church and the club are fairly large.
Okay.
Um right, and then applicants.
Do you want you have a question for this neighbor?
Only questions.
Just so you you said you had uh uh you have trouble with the place across the street.
Yes, we have issues across the street as well.
But you don't know Mr.
Ray and that he he already has an establishment that doesn't that the activity you're describing isn't none of that's been alleged against him at his current place.
No, okay.
All right, thank you for that um all right.
And then just to I just want to make sure I have the address right here for your church.
The address for the church is 5174 North 35th Street.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
If there's nothing further for this neighbor, well, we can take the next one.
Alder Woman Pratt, you're good?
Yeah, I'm good.
Thank you.
All right, thank you, sir, for your testimony.
All right, go ahead and come up.
Oh, he yeah, you've you sw got sworn in a couple of times today.
Yeah, well, thank you for staying.
I'll put two and a half minutes on the clock if you'll um start with your name and address again and then go right into your remarks.
Yes, hello.
My name is Brian Rott, and uh my address is 5151 North 35th Street.
Thank you.
Um I'm the executive director of Quasimundo Theater, um, which is located at that address, um, a nonprofit whose mission is to provide arts education and performances and community events that promote health and well-being.
We are located um right down the street um north of the proposed establishment.
We have been there since uh 2018.
The previous establishment Cheetah Club was uh was opened last I think I believe around 2020.
At that time, I witnessed excessive trash, automotive debris, evidence of car break-ins, uh reckless driving, speeding, and as well as uh a homicide, at least one house homicide.
That's the bar.
I'm here to express opposition to the licensing and appeal opening of venom because of its potential harm on the community and local businesses, increasing blight hazards, risk to public safety, including uh reckless reckless driving and and violent crimes.
In addition, I'm also the president of the Villard Avenue Business Improvement District, bid 19.
We are committed to making public improvements that allow residents and businesses to flourish.
Initiatives to beautify the community, reduce blight, improve pedestrian safety, and restore Villard as a destination for downtown commerce and entertainment for professionals and families.
Uh this the proposed establishment does not align with this with this mission.
Umiented and family friendly establishments within a quarter mile from uh where this proposed place is, including churches, and Milwaukee Public Library, um, and and two Christian schools within a quarter mile.
I think that's all I have to say.
All right, thank you, sir.
If you'll stay up there for questions.
Any questions from committee members for this neighbor or elder woman Pratt?
Any questions at this time?
Uh no.
Thank you for coming.
All right.
And then for the applicant, any questions?
Only questions for this neighbor?
Sure.
Thank you very much for coming down and for your service.
It sounds like you're very busy.
Um the uh the you heard my question for the last person.
Um that it sounds like most people are glad the cheetah club is gone, but you don't have any understanding that Mr.
Ray and Ms.
Evans run their current establishment the way that the previous one was run, or anything that you're concerned about, correct?
I don't have familiarity with their um if if they didn't run this cheetah uh cheetah club or connected to that in the past.
I have I have no familiarity with how they ran their other businesses.
Um for me, the issue is a how the business that was there, Cheetah Club was run in the past, but B also the idea of a tavern slash erotic dancing place within our neighborhood, which is you know, which is we're trying to make community oriented.
Those are are both the the two pieces.
So um but um if they were approved, you would be willing to work with them and make sure that that the concerns you have are addressed and and make sure there's communication so that the items, the things that you are concerned about if if they are approved, would be rapidly addressed.
Certainly.
Okay, thank you.
All right, thank you very much.
Thank you.
All right, yes, please come up.
And then if you'll start your with your name and address, and you'll have two and a half minutes.
Kate Thompson.
My personal address or my business address.
Um wherever you want to see mail.
Yes, wherever you put us wherever you prefer to receive mail.
5150 North 35th Street.
Thank you.
Okay.
Um I'm the human resources manager for stainless foundry and engineering, located at 5110 through 5150 North 35th Street.
We employ approximately 150 people, and we've been in the area since 1946.
Our neighborhood has worked hard to establish manufacturing jobs and provide stable employment in an area that already struggles with crime, loitering, and public safety concerns.
We run several shifts.
Every day our employees arrive before sunrise, leave after dark, and park on the surrounding streets.
Their safety is a constant concern for our company.
Well, I recognize that the adult entertainment business is lawful.
I believe this particular location is inappropriate.
My concern is not based on morality or competition.
It's just that businesses like ours invest in the community.
And we have a lot of people that are very concerned about this business coming in.
Our employees, like I said, we run three shifts.
So it's they come in at midnight, one o'clock, first shift, second shift, third shift.
So we have a lot of people that are concerned.
I understand that you didn't have anything to do with Cheetah Club prior to this.
But I guess that's just where we stand.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you for your testimony.
If you'll stay up there for questions.
Any questions for this neighbor from committee members or Alderwan Pratt?
No, thank you for coming.
Um I did want to ask what what's the business what do you guys make?
What's the business?
Stainless steel castings.
Okay.
Um right.
Applicant, any questions for this neighbor?
Um yes, just briefly.
The um you mentioned parking.
Do you're where do your employees park?
We have two different parking lots.
Um sort of sandwiched between all of our buildings, but uh it's there's an overflow a lot of the time, so they have to park on the street on uh 35th.
So the uh the reason I ask is that uh there is a letter objecting because of the um I think we talked about the um waste management said they need to make wide turns and be able to get in the park.
Is that um so is that something that you work with that business on to make sure that they can operate and get in and out with so that your employees don't park no they they have 18-wheelers coming in and out of their business, not parking on the street.
Right, but they're saying they they their objection was about parking on the street so that they could make turns to get in.
Do you do your employees know that and stay clear of that little area?
Yeah, and we we share the same concern, yeah.
Right, so we could do the same thing.
Um work on making sure that the parking is not an issue, whether it's employees or customers, so that the street is clear for the businesses to operate.
And also um I wanted to ask did you look at like the plan of operation that they proposed?
Yes.
Okay, and you David, grab the mic.
Oh, you have to use I'm sorry, attorney.
Thank you.
Um and so you do you have any issues with the plan of operation that they have proposed?
Um just speaking for myself, no, but I can't speak for my CEO or CFO, obviously.
That's fine.
No, I understand.
Thank you very much.
I do have a question.
What uh shifts are work at at our business?
Yeah, so we we run a first, second, and a what we call a loose third.
So people arrive at both midnight and one a.m.
Okay.
And they do 10-hour shifts four days a week.
Okay.
So it's kind of it's kind of odd, but I'm when I'm people arriving at all hours and see if the time is overlap with the time that this will be open.
Okay, thank you.
You're welcome.
Thank you very much for your testimony.
Okay, I'm sorry, can I just follow up on that?
So you understand that as part of the plan they will have um security, two to three guards outside during that um what you call that loose third shift.
Two to three guards.
Yes.
Am I allowed to ask questions?
You can ask them.
Um just Fridays, Saturdays or every day.
Every day.
Every day.
Okay.
So also is this the this is the place that's directly across the street here too.
Is this the building that's directly on the phone?
No, we're we're um so pink dumpsters next to you all, and then we're on the other side of Pink Stump Pink Dumpster.
Yep, and then we also have we have um the three adjacent buildings too.
Goes all the way down to the apartment buildings on the other side.
So there's one.
I have no problem meeting with anybody to rectify any problems with parking or track because I would get outside and clean it myself.
So if we have any problems, you guys can get my information.
You can call me any time of the day or night.
I don't have an issue with that.
Okay.
All right, thank you.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, thank you.
Are we done now?
Yeah, okay.
Thank you.
We still have two more neighbors to hear from.
Sure.
All right.
Pink, I think I'll take you first.
I'm gonna put a um two and a half minutes on the clock.
Can you state your name and address first and then go right into your testimony?
Yes, Eric Tapper, 7035 Raywood Road, Madison, Wisconsin, 53713.
Thank you.
Our primary concerns are with parking and traffic based on what we've been told by uh existing employees, neighboring businesses, and others familiar with the previous operation.
Uh customers parking frequently extended uh on both sides of North 35th uh because there was not enough off-street parking to accommodate demand.
Um but we can't necessarily speak to the first hand experience.
It's a concern given our uh current operations at our site.
Uh we have commercial trucks entering and leaving our facility throughout the day.
Uh many of those trucks do require uh wide turning movements to safely enter and exit the property.
Um vehicles are parked on both sides of North 35th or uh very close to our aprons that are on North 35th during business hours.
Uh those turning movements become very difficult and could create safety concerns for our drivers, employees, uh the pedestrians that use the walkway there.
Um, and our operation really depends on maintaining safe and reliable access uh for large vehicles for our site.
Uh we're also concerned about the potential proposed hours of operation.
Um the biggest biggest thing for us is obviously like I said, the parking and traffic impacts that could occur while our employees and customers, vendors, and other commercial truck traffic uh are actively using the area.
Um we've invested a significant amount of time and resources uh in the property recently, uh repaired fencing gates, cleaned up the site, improved the overall appearance of the property, and we are going to continue to invest heavily in that site uh in the future uh future years here with additional improvements and plans to develop the property and create additional jobs, uh and obviously having any sort of uh business next to us that um you know potential future employees could could see as a liability or or a liability for them or their vehicles could be a concern.
Um we would respectfully ask that the committee also consider conditions that would just help the neighboring businesses continue to operate safely and efficiently.
Um specifically, I would ask that the committee consider limiting the hours of operation um to not overlap with uh businesses in the area that have traffic coming and going during normal day business hours and uh you know utilize and and manage it's available and have them utilize and manage their uh available off-street parking uh and try to keep street parking um in front of businesses available to manage.
Thank you, Pink.
That's your time.
If you can stay there for questions, questions from committee members for yeah, um, what are your hours of operation?
Um we will have people on site um starting as early as 6 a.m.
Um, but not uh fully operating, and then those trucks will start leaving the site um within an hour or so after that and should be wrapping up by 6 to 7 p.m.
most days very consistently.
Okay.
All right, all right, thank you.
Thank you.
Questions from the applicant?
I have one.
Uh is it possible that uh we can meet because I uh I'm familiar with the area and I I've seen you guys trucks come in and out.
Um is it possible we can meet together and figure out areas that you want us to keep clear to accommodate the wide turns of the trucks from both angles?
I do know there's a fire hydrant to the right of you guys, so no one can park there, and we can strictly enforce that and more of the south of you guys.
There's one small uh island there.
We can also uh uh try to get people not to park there or enforce people not to park there so that way both areas are clear for your trucks to be able to pull in.
Are you willing to do that?
Sure, absolutely.
We'd be open to meeting with you.
Okay, okay.
Uh can I give them a contact information?
Uh let's not do that publicly.
You should have the attorney share it.
I I just don't want you to no, that's fine.
It's fine.
Um, Mr.
Tepper, uh yeah, you recognize I was referring to your letter.
Yes.
Um, and and thank you for appearing.
And and I think your letter was very well written in.
Um I did immediately talk to uh Mr.
Ray and Ms.
Evans about your concerns and they they believe they can um make sure that employees don't park there or independent contractors and customers.
I think they could post something on the door coming in to make keep that area clear, but I do think that um your concern is valid to make sure you can get in and out and uh we're prepared to uh make sure that uh anybody involved in the business is not part of that issue.
Sure, I appreciate that.
And like I said, our goal is you know, safety of pedestrians, our employees, and cleanliness of the areas around it.
All right, and you said it sounds like your attorney is has the contact info.
Yes, he has a letter.
Very good.
All right, thank you.
Pink dumpsters, I appreciate your um testimony today.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We'll move now to Greg.
Greg, if you'll state your neighborhood.
Good afternoon.
Um it's Greg Kickbush, 5045 North 35th Street.
Uh we are directly across from the location in or not in question, but uh for the applicant.
Thank you.
Um we're a manufacturer, been in the area for about 20 years, uh, roughly just around 35 employees.
Uh we manufacture large industrial uh railroad braking systems, which require a lot of large trucks and some oversized loads, so um much to what has been previously uh described as heavy truck traffic coming through and the need for wide turns and what have you.
We have the same conditions that Pink Dumpster and some others have uh indicated.
Um bigger uh a bigger concern would be the hours of operation that we don't have our trucks um blocked, that we would not be able to get our product in and out of our uh facility.
Um but looking at what we've had for experience with the previous club, and I understand you are not our um Mr.
Ray is not involved with that one directly, but um given our situation of many years of being here for 20 years and watching the street decay to a less than tolerable level with the previous uh club that had the same level of uh entertainment planned as or the same same type of entertainment as what is planned on this one.
Nothing good comes of this in our neighborhood, and with the broken glass, the break-ins, the gunfire um we have people here in at many hours of the day, not only just for a shift, but randomly at night time, and I can't tell you how many times I've stepped foot out of here with situations going on across the street or up and down the road, and it's all due to the traffic of people going in and out of what was the previous club.
So we we as a company are quite concerned.
Uh the neighborhood's gonna go back to the crap all it was, to be honest, and I want to know moving forward if this were um allowed to open up what's gonna happen and who's gonna be responsible for the mess on the street, and what is the repercussion if this returns to a challenging situation yet again?
What's it gonna take to turn this around and shut it down?
Um I I'm all for you know, people having a business making money.
That's fantastic.
Entrepreneurial is what helped America but thank you.
When we bring this into a your time is up, but will you stay on for questions?
Questions from committee members or Aldo Matt Pratt for Greg at this time?
Greg, what did you say?
Your business hours were your business hours were generally six to five, uh, but we oftentimes on project based uh we'll run all the way through the night.
Okay, so it's about the same as Pink Dumpsters.
Yes.
Okay, thank you.
All right.
Questions from the applicant for the neighbor?
Sure.
Um, thank you, sir.
Um, for your testimony.
Uh you um you heard it just a minute ago I asked the person about the uh plan of operation.
Um repeat that please.
I'm sorry.
Um you you heard me ask about the plan of operation, which is a document that's filed as part of the uh the application.
I I personally have not okay.
Well, what I'm what I'm getting at is you understand that if they don't follow the plan of operation, that that is uh something that this committee could take up.
So when you express concern about what's gonna happen if A, B, or C happens.
Um that's a there is a vehicle and a way for this committee to regulate those things.
I I like the yes, the fact that it exists, that's great.
But what's the timeline?
That will it depends on.
I mean, the idea is that um you understand and you're willing to exchange contact information if the applicant is approved.
Applicant is approved.
Yes.
Okay, so um we certainly don't want anything different than what you are talking about for the neighborhood.
And I think that we wouldn't be here seeking approval if the other establishment that Mr.
Ray and Miss Evans run have this had those kind of problems.
You're not aware of any problems at their other establishment, correct?
Yeah.
Right.
Not even aware of their their other establishments.
But all right.
Thank you.
Nothing good comes to a neighborhood with this kind of stuff coming in.
That's just my final words.
All right.
Thank you, Greg.
Appreciate your testimony today.
That does conclude.
Thank you.
That concludes our neighbor testimony.
Um we are in the first Aldermanic district.
Alderwoman Pratt.
Yes.
Okay.
Um this has been an ongoing thing probably since the moment I got elected.
I've been hearing about uh what's going to happen here.
Um I will say the thinking behind this is that the applicant currently runs a strip club at Go Diggers, which is on Hopkins.
Um and that is in the middle of a neighborhood surrounded by homes.
We have um a neighbor there who is who feels quite affected by what's going on over there, um, as well as another business across the street that may lend itself to to all the activity.
Um the thinking behind this change was that moving this business to um a more industrial area away from uh residential, that it would be more beneficial to neighbors, and that's the feedback I've gotten from from most neighbors that they wanted it away from their homes and and closer to businesses that are maybe not operating in the evening when this is operating.
Um I will ask and and express to Mr.
Ray that um it is never my intention to come here and have a community meeting at the table, and that I expect business owners to reach out to the uh the business owners around them before they come to the table.
Like you re-talking to them here about parking, you talking to them here about your security, that should have happened before you got here.
Like this all should have been ironed out.
We I shouldn't have had to I should have had a a document that came to me that already told me that you had worked this out with these people.
So I am upset that we have been dealing with this for years at this point, and you have not taken the time to talk to the people your neighbors.
And I don't believe you've reached out to the Villar bid as well, which I know I expressed.
I never knew anything about the vision.
I know I expressed in a meeting earlier, probably a year ago, that you needed to reach out to the Villa bid.
I mean, do you you are making this so much harder than I think it needed to be?
Um but what I will say.
Uh the what are the current what are the hours listed for this business?
I believe it's 11 30 to bar close, but let me go for 11 30 a.m.
to bar close.
Yep.
So opening time is 11 30 every day of the week, and then Sunday through Thursday closing at 2 a.m.
Friday, Saturday closing at 2 30.
Are you willing to amend your hours to open later in the evening?
These businesses close at 6.
Are you willing to open at 5 or 6?
Okay.
You're willing to open at 6 o'clock or 500.
Five?
Yes.
5 p.m.
Yes, 5 p.m.
Okay.
Um can I ask no no?
So I'm so an amendment, right?
Yeah.
So I'd like to you would like to amend your application to reflect a 5 p.m.
opening.
I no, I do need it to be six.
Both of the businesses said that they're they stop operations at six.
I do need it to be six.
I know I offered five.
It does need to be six p.m.
That's fine.
Okay.
So yeah.
So you want to amend your application to reflect that you'll be opening at six p.m.
every day.
Yes, to cater to the businesses around us, yes.
Willing to work with you, so that this is a start.
Okay.
All right.
Then Alderwoman Pratt moves to amend the hours of operation to indicate a six p.m.
opening every day.
And hearing no objection to that motion so ordered.
Okay.
You also offer that you're going to have security.
I'm sorry, Matt.
Um Alderwoman Pratt.
Because Ms.
Evans is the applicant.
She just thought that perhaps we should make sure.
Ms.
Evans, did you uh want that amendment to I thought I said yes unless I wasn't loud enough?
Yes.
Okay.
So that was um with your uh ask we we amended it to 6 p.m.
open.
Okay, thank you.
Um go ahead, Alderman.
You also offered that security will be outside at certain hours.
Um I just want to get that on the record what hours those are, like what how many security uh between is that in the application?
How many security?
They do have six um security personnel listed on their plan of operation.
And you're saying two will always be stationed outside.
Yes.
Okay.
Did it does it need to reflect that two are outside?
Yes.
Okay and at what time?
And what times they're out.
They're out there the entire time.
Before they do that, uh just indicating that there may be externalities that occur where the two outside may be called inside, or four inside may be called outside.
You may want to provide them flexibility in saying that you know two will be stationed outside except in the event of something like that.
So make an exception or make create some flexibility so that those two outside are not solely dedicated and and there isn't a place where they fall into um I guess noncompliance, just you know, based on the fact that they're security, they have a function, but you know, we don't want to have them so dedicated to that that they fall out of compliance if they respond to something inside.
Okay.
So they're not, I guess I'll move to amend the plan of operation to reflect that two of the eight security guards will be outside, but with the in the we'll move at the I don't know.
Two of the six.
Oh, two of the six will be outside.
Unless there's uh issue.
Unless uh unless it's an issue.
Yeah, unless there is an emergency.
Okay.
Would you like Ms.
Evans to make that amendment?
I would like to make that change.
Okay.
Uh Alder Woman Pratt moves to amend the plan of operation to reflect that um of the six guards, two of them um will predominantly be outside unless something arises.
Unless an incident arises where they're needed.
Um elsewhere.
Um and I hear no objection to that motion so ordered.
Um and with that, I will move approval.
Hours for the guards.
Do you need oh the hours?
Or he's other out there.
Six six six guards.
No, the hours the hours for the guards.
Outside.
Yeah.
Same same thing.
Six six to close.
Hours of the business?
Six to close, or okay.
Shall we add that to the plan of operation?
All right.
Um will be um on site throughout uh the hours of the business being open.
Correct.
Very good.
Can I just say one thing?
Hearing no objections so ordered.
I just uh madam chair members, I I've been through a lot of hearings, and I just want to say that I well, the concern about the neighbors at the other establishment is I I appreciate the Alder Women's Um comments, but I don't recall a hearing where there have been so many on site businesses like that we just heard from, and I very much appreciate them all coming.
We will make sure that they have the phone numbers of the security guards so that if they need assistance for anything that that will be able, those guards will be available in that area.
And um, like I said, I I am so encouraged by what I heard uh today, and I want to thank everybody who testified well.
I hope you will reach out to those businesses.
They're really good at communicating.
You have to get better.
Okay, no problem, no problem.
Um so I'm gonna move approval.
Um as amended as amended.
Okay.
All right.
Elder Woman Andrea Pratt moves for approval as amended.
Any discussion?
I just want to again reiterate what Alder Woman Pratt said, please be in touch with these businesses.
Um I think there's an opportunity for you to dare I say win them over and um certainly work together as neighbors.
Um but with that fully expect you to reach out to the village.
I want you to have uh constant communication with the businesses around you.
Um that's what I expect going forward.
Definitely not a problem.
Okay, very good.
Okay.
What's that?
Now we go to the next one.
I don't have none.
I can't I'm sorry.
All right.
Very good.
Any further discussion on Elder Woman Pratt's motion to um approve as amended.
Any objection?
Hearing none, so ordered.
Good luck, Ms.
Evans.
Thank you.
Good luck.
They're next to all right, and oh yeah, you're you're next.
We're gonna move on to our final um agenda item at 1030 uh and the 1030 agenda.
We have Angela J.
Evans, agent for Michael Ray Gents plus LLC, Class B Tavern and Public Entertainment Premises Licenses Renewal Application for Gold Diggers M I L W at 4750 North Hopkins Street.
All right, and Angela is here, she's already been sworn in.
Um she retains the same counsel.
Um and Mr.
Ray is here as well.
So with that, um, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?
Yes.
Thank you.
Ms.
Lopez, are there any holds?
No holds.
Okay, Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?
Uh 4625 at 1026 p.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to a noise complaint.
On arrival, no noise was observed by police.
The caller was advised.
On 4135 at 627 pm, walkie police took a walking battery.
The citizen stated they were grabbed by the neck by the owner of the club.
However, could not provide any specific information regarding date and time of the incident.
The citizen stated they would come back with information, however, never returned.
On 41725 at 1118 p.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to a shooting.
A witness state of security denied entrance to a suspect armed with a firearm in their waistband.
The suspect then opened fire, um, opened the door and began fire rounds inside the business, striking two victims.
The suspect was later observed, shot in front of the business.
One victim was deceased on scene, the other was shot in the hand.
The suspect was pronounced deceased at a hospital.
Um 4225 at 11 a.m.
Walkie police along with committee partners held a community meeting with the business at district at the district regarding item number 22.
The owner stated their security staff are unarmed and no patrons are allowed in with firearms.
However, they did not allow armed security staff that are patronizing the business inside if they have a CCW.
Security measures were discussed with the owner who stated they will draft a new plan of action within a week and report at 10 PD.
Um port 2825 at 1245 pm, walkie police held a meeting with the agent.
They were attentive and receptive to suggestions made from the officers regarding hiring license security, updating the security plan and conducted accepted on 831 25 at 814 a.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to noise noisons.
On arrival, the business was closed.
However, it should be noted the original call came in at 158 a.m.
Uh 92825 at 1210 a.m.
Walkie police were dispatched to Nois Lucents.
The caller stated patrons leaving the establishment were causing a disturbance.
The caller stated they were hit by a subject and did not didn't know why they were escorted out as well.
The caller stated they no longer wanted to file a report.
Thank you.
Would the applicant like to speak to the police report?
Um as far as the most important thing with the the guard.
Uh I think the the mother was here several times and explained exactly what happened.
So everything else was noise complaints, and never was any noise when the police came.
Yes, I do recall the mother of the victim was here in support of you.
Yes.
Very good.
Questions on the police report from committee members or elderwoman print?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes, Alderman Jackson.
Did uh hours change for this location yet?
That's what supposed to happen.
They did submit an amendment.
Um previously, the hours are 6 a.m.
until midnight every day.
6 a.m.
That's what it's been for the last no, the previous was 6 a.m.
to 2.
Yes.
And then 2 30 on the weekend.
It's been 6 o'clock since 2011.
Okay.
Okay.
So it's not the opening time.
It's the closing time that's changing.
Yeah, the closing time.
Yeah, we talked about closing at midnight.
Yes.
Okay.
To reflect how options closer.
Yeah.
So that's every day, or is it the same as options with 2 30 on the weekend?
Let me confirm.
We've already done too much.
Okay.
Thank you.
Sorry, we'll see how it goes and then we come back.
I'll just are there any neighbors present that wish to testify on this item today?
Any neighbors present that want to testify on gold diggers?
Shot.
4750 North Hopkins Street.
Yes, sir.
Similarly, it's all sport.
Okay.
What?
Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present that want to testify on gold diggers.
She now may not be on my side of Hopkins.
Is it seven?
Who's that?
Oh, I have one person.
Oh okay.
I notify her.
Okay.
I know what a flyer.
I notify him.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Alright.
Um and you were.
I'm sorry.
I'm checking the amendment.
I'm just uh I'm not seeing anything in the file, but I know it was a member, so give me a moment.
Okay.
Oh no, I'm gonna leave.
Were there gonna be any other amendments?
This is not see one here.
All right, we're just looking for the amendment you guys made.
I'm sorry, we're just looking for the amendment you guys submitted.
Okay, no problem.
Oh, I thought they were already done.
Okay.
That was not because we need an approval for that.
Okay.
Alright.
Um also part of this is uh you have to with you're withdrawing your adult entertainment.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
All right.
Does that that's in this application?
It no, he's he already has it at this location.
Okay, yeah.
So you like to withdraw the adult entertainment license for this for go dance?
Okay.
And the two hours.
And the so I'll make the motion to right to within.
Yeah, withdraw the pep.
I mean, it's it's effectively voluntary, so I mean it's like he's proposing it, you all are adopting accepting it.
Effectively, if it was written down and handed it handed to license prior to this meeting, it would have been in effect already.
It's just because you're in the hearing now, it's action by the committee to be entirely precise about it.
So yeah, that's that is the course of action.
So it would be proposal to amend what's in front of you currently, which is a um class B and a pep.
The pep includes uh new dancing or what whatever.
What is it?
I mean, what's the adult entertainment?
Adult entertainment.
Thank you.
Is erotic dancing on there too?
Or is it whatever inclusive language you should use?
Adult entertainment slash strippers, I think is that.
Alright, so adult entertainment slash strippers.
Is there anything erotic dancing as the other one or not?
Uh yes, it's all inclusive with the adult entertainment.
Then yeah, just adult entertainment.
So it would be motion to remove the adult entertainment at consent of the applicant, and then it would be adopted, and then you could then adopt the renewal.
I guess I have to change.
Okay, hold on.
I'm sorry, I don't have the pep in front of is the pep in the file, the full pep in the file.
Yeah, it should be.
This is a listing.
I just wanted in front of me for when we do the amendment.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
So here it is up at the top.
Yeah.
So it is okay.
So an adult slash strippers slash erotic.
Okay.
But you but you're gonna he's gonna gets to keep they get to keep the disc jockey fashion show.
So just uh wrestling.
Dancing by performance.
I've had one event.
I'm sorry.
I've had one wrestling event.
Wait, should I get it?
It's been sixteen years.
Definitely is erotic dancer strippers adult.
Definitely.
I think I might just patron dance.
It's on the license.
Oh I might have to do more of that now.
Okay.
So, and let's let's not forget Ms.
Evans needs to request to make this amendment.
Okay.
Um, all right, so let's so I've got your pep in front of me.
We got this jockey.
Dancing by performers.
What's that?
Is that considered?
It's it adult dancing is is specific.
Okay, so you could leave dancing by performers.
That could be someone like an aerialist or someone like a I don't know, Chinese traditional dancer or whatever.
Yeah, that is separate and apart from adult entertainment.
That's erotic dancing and stripping.
But it could be burlesque, you know.
That would be no civil.
Well, I'm just saying no, I have three ideas.
But that's a strip, that's just a strip piece.
It's a it it again.
This gets into there is a difference.
And if they want to have performances that include the paid dancers that are not removing their clothes clothes or have an erotic or adult element that would be separate.
Um again, those are pay performers that are dancing.
Okay.
So that's a broader category.
We're you know, in the narrow space of adult entertainment.
So strip okay, fine.
Yeah.
That's just about performance, fine.
Fashion shows.
Fine.
Yes.
And then we have erotic dancers slash strippers slash adult entertainment.
That's being removed.
That's what's being removed.
Wrestling is on here.
Wrestling.
We are not wrestling wrestling.
He's had an event.
We had wrestling.
He just told us he's at an event.
Don't look at me like a you want to keep wrestling?
Do I want to keep the wrestling?
Yes.
Yes.
See, we have a conversation over here and like some wrestling.
Can you explain the wrestling event to us?
Is there like oil or mud involved or anything?
They just would have to have or more clothes now.
Right.
We can't take this whole thing to um 35th Street.
I'm serious.
Yeah, they wouldn't have on like the underclothing like that.
Shorts.
Yeah, it won't be nice.
You got the ring.
There's a ring in there.
I think we had to be one.
And at the time.
Gold diggers is a bar.
Well, now it is, so I guess you could take the wrestling out.
You could um so you will like the rest later.
Take the rest clean out.
Patron contests, yes.
Jukebox.
Yeah.
Patrons dancing.
That's fine.
Amateur nights.
Sure.
Yeah.
And uh pool table.
One pool table.
One pool table.
Okay.
All right.
So Ms.
Evans, would you would you like to amend the application to remove from your PEP erotic dancers slash strippers slash adult entertainment as well as wrestling?
Yes, I do.
Yes.
Madam Chair.
Yes, you can.
Okay.
I was looking over the minutes and the previous notes.
I don't have anything or I'm not seeing anything in regards to the hours.
Um I did have it noted, but I'm not seeing where that happened.
So if we can get clarification on the change of hours.
Okay.
Let me finish this one.
So Alder Woman, did I make the motion yet?
No.
No.
Okay.
Alder Woman Andrea Pratt moves to amend the application at the behest of the applicant to remove from the PEP erotic dancers slash strippers slash adult entertainment as well as wrestling.
Any discussion on that motion?
Any objection?
Hearing unso ordered.
And then it looks like we do have to uh make an amendment to your hours if you would like to do that, because we're not seeing that we're not finding the amendment in the paperwork here.
Ms.
Evans, would you like to amend the application here at the table to change the hours from 6 a.m.
to midnight?
6 a.m.
to midnight.
So I would like to.
Every day.
Yes.
Okay.
Alderwoman Andrea Pratt moves to amend the hours of operation for the business to 6 a.m.
to midnight every day.
Any discussion on that motion?
Any objection?
Hearing unso ordered.
Okay.
And that's it.
That's it.
All right.
I'm going to move approval with the warning letter.
As amended, right?
As amended.
Alder Woman Andrea Pratt moves for approval as amended with a warning letter.
Any discussion on that motion?
Any objection?
Hearing on so ordered.
All right.
Good luck to you guys.
Thank you.
Don't forget to reach out to those neighbors.
Look, I see she's one of them still back there.
Please connect.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right, very good.
Good luck.
We are at we have come to the almost the end of our agenda.
Um Alderman Peter Bergelis moves to approve as amended.
Thank you.
File number.
Sorry, I lost one.
File number two six zero four six two.
Any discussion on Alderman Bergellis' motion?
Any objection?
Hearing none so ordered.
And then there's no agenda only or anything, right?
Okay.
Okay.
All right, having no further business before us, we are adjourned.
Have a good weekend, everyone.
Milwaukee Licenses Committee Meeting - July 17, 2026
The Licenses Committee of the City of Milwaukee met on Friday, July 17, 2026, at 9:03 a.m. in Room 301-B of City Hall. The meeting was called to order by Chair Jocasta Zamarripa and adjourned at 12:36 p.m. All five members were present: Zamarripa, Vice-Chair Andrea Pratt, Peter Burgelis, Alex Brower, and DiAndre Jackson. The sole agenda item was File 260462, a motion relating to the committee's recommendations on several license applications, renewals, and amendments. The committee considered a total of 16 license matters, including renewals, new applications, and requests for amendments.
Public Comments & Testimony
- Joanna Bautch (VIA CDC Executive Director and neighbor) expressed no concerns with the operation of US Petro but urged the applicant to address a boarded-up property at 2709 W Lincoln Ave, which she described as a persistent nuisance.
- Brisa Van Galen (VIA DCD Economic Development Director) echoed concerns about the same property, noting that three neighbors had complained and that efforts to contact the owner had failed.
- Officer Walker (Community Liaison Officer, District 7) testified against extended hours for Options Restaurant & Lounge due to high crime and the incident where six guns were confiscated.
- Marleny Richiez (2636 N Oakland Ave) supported renewal for Oakland Cafe, stating that the applicant had agreed to clean the area daily and improve communication with neighbors.
- Isaac Hamilton (Chosen Generation Ministries, 5174 N 35th St) opposed the Venom application, citing issues with a nearby bar and concerns about attracting criminal behavior.
- Bryan Rant (Villard Avenue BID 19) opposed Venom, referencing past problems (trash, reckless driving, a homicide) from the previous Cheetah Club and noting nearby schools, a library, and a daycare.
- Kate Thompson (Stainless Foundry and Engineering Inc, 5150 N 35th St) opposed Venom, citing safety concerns for her 150 employees who park on surrounding streets and work multiple shifts.
- Eric Tapper (Pellitteri Waste Systems) opposed Venom, raising parking and traffic issues for large vehicles entering and leaving his facility.
- Greg Kickbush (5045 N 35th St) opposed Venom, describing 20 years of problems from the previous club (broken glass, break-ins, gunfire) and questioning accountability if issues recur.
Discussion Items
- Ebenezer Auto & Repair (4440 W Forest Home Ave): Applicant absent. Held to call of the chair on first nonappearance (vote 3-0, 2 excused).
- US Petro (2931 W Lincoln Ave): Applicant present with attorney. Neighbors raised concerns about a separate dilapidated property owned by the applicant. Chair Zamarripa noted difficulty contacting the owner. Attorney said the applicant had health issues but had begun cleaning. Held to call of the chair for clarification of ownership and LLC structure (vote 5-0).
- La Chinampa (3500 W National Ave): New application for beer and wine. Chair Zamarripa expressed support. Applicant agreed to service bar only. Approved as amended (vote 5-0).
- Quick Pick Food Mart (3332 W Lincoln Ave): Renewal with police report of sale to minor. Attorney said client accepted responsibility, paid fines, and purchased ID verification device. Chair Zamarripa stressed seriousness of selling to minors. Approved with warning letter (vote 5-0). Discussion arose about fine levels and pending legislation.
- Taqueria La Vecindad (1401 S 38th St): Food peddler renewal with health department citations for operating without running water. Initially held, then reconsidered. Health department representative Courtney Langosch noted two violations. Applicant said he empties water tank nightly and insulated pipes. Chair Zamarripa urged compliance and avoiding overweight vehicle routes. Approved with warning letter (vote 5-0).
- Clarks Food (3434 W Oklahoma Ave): Renewal with police report of theft and a confused person. Ald. Burgelis noted he had witnessed pumps operating after hours. Applicant said pumps were reprogrammed. Approved (vote 5-0).
- Splendicare Bar & Grill / Play by Play (3910 W Fond du Lac Ave): Applicant not present. Ald. Jackson noted pending fines had been satisfied. A neighbor (Lydia Melton) appeared in opposition. Held to call of the chair (vote 5-0).
- Options Restaurant & Lounge (4747 N Hopkins St): Renewal with police report including weapons confiscation. Applicant explained improvements (locked safe, ID verification). Officer Walker opposed extended hours. No extended hours request was pending. Approved with warning letter (vote 5-0).
- Oakland Cafe (2979 N Oakland Ave): Renewal with police report of sale of tobacco to minor at another location. Neighbor Marleny Richiez testified in support after a community meeting. Ald. Brower moved to amend plan of operation to include daily cleanup and posting contact information. Approved as amended (vote 5-0).
- Miramar Theatre (2844-46 N Oakland Ave): Renewal with police reports of fights. Ald. Brower summarized an abatement plan including increased security, PatronScan, weekly communication with his office until a September 2026 community meeting, and noise abatement. The abatement plan was added to the plan of operation. Approved as amended (vote 5-0).
- Star Bar (2011 E Ivanhoe Pl #1): New license for a small bar within a plaza. Applicant has 10 years with Newland. No neighbor attendance at community meeting. Approved (vote 5-0).
- Blufox Automotive (3841 W Villard Ave): Renewal with change of hours and request for 3 additional spaces. Ald. Pratt opposed extra spaces due to lot size. Applicant withdrew the request. Approved as amended (vote 5-0).
- Villard Mart (3709 W Villard Ave): New application for extended hours (24/7). Applicant has 20 years experience. Ald. Pratt said neighbors oppose extended hours. Applicant unwilling to amend hours. Held to call of the chair to meet with BID and neighbors (vote 5-0).
- Villard Petro Mart (3709 W Villard Ave): Renewal with police report showing numerous calls. Ald. Pratt noted three murders at the parking lot since her election, loitering, and crime. Applicant agreed to CPTED and meeting with BID. Held to call of the chair with provisional license (vote 5-0).
- Venom (5048 N 35th St): New license for a strip club in an industrial area. Multiple neighbors opposed, citing parking, safety, and past issues with Cheetah Club. Applicant agreed to: open at 6 p.m. daily; have 2 of 6 security guards outside unless emergencies; security on-site all hours. Ald. Pratt expressed frustration that applicant had not engaged neighbors beforehand. Approved as amended (vote 5-0).
- Gold Diggers / Michael Ray Gents Plus LLC (4750 N Hopkins St): Renewal with police report including a shooting with two victims (one deceased). Applicant withdrew adult entertainment and wrestling and amended hours to 6 a.m.–midnight daily. No neighbors testified. Approved as amended with warning letter (vote 5-0).
Key Outcomes
- File 260462 (Overall Motion): Approved as amended by the full committee (vote 5-0).
- Licenses Approved with Amendments: La Chinampa, Quick Pick Food Mart, Taqueria La Vecindad, Clarks Food, Options Restaurant & Lounge, Oakland Cafe, Miramar Theatre, Star Bar, Blufox Automotive, Venom, Gold Diggers.
- Licenses Held: Ebenezer Auto & Repair, US Petro, Splendicare Bar & Grill, Villard Mart, Villard Petro Mart.
- Provisional Licenses: Granted for US Petro (until Aug 31, 2026) and Villard Petro Mart (60 days, extended until September 2026 Committee meeting) to allow continued operation while issues are resolved.
- Specific Directives: US Petro applicant must clarify LLC ownership and meet with neighbors; Villard Mart and Villard Petro Mart applicants must meet with Villard Ave BID and neighbors; Venom applicant must reach out to neighboring businesses; Gold Diggers removed adult entertainment and agreed to earlier closing.
Meeting Transcript
All right, good morning. I will call to order the license, the special licenses committee. Is it special? Yes, the special licenses committee meeting on Friday, July 17th at what time is it? 903. 903 a.m. I am Joe Casta Samaripa. I'm chairperson of the committee. I'm joined in the following order to my right by our vice chair, Alder Woman Andrea Pratt. Um Alderman DeAndre Jackson will be with us shortly. To my left, um Alderman Peter Brigelis, and then um to his left, Alderman Alex Brower will be joining us shortly. Would also um like to um welcome and introduce Yadira Melendez, our staff assistant. Good morning, good morning. Um, as well as Ms. Fabio Fabiola Lopez, our licensed division assistant manager. Good morning, Sergeant Cornejo is here from the Milwaukee Police Department. Good morning, Sergeant. Morning. Um, and attorney Travis Gresham from the Office of the City Attorney. Good morning. Um the only item on the agenda is file number 260462. Motion relating to the recommendations of the licenses committee relating to licenses. And the first item on our 9 a.m. agenda is Garasquio Robles. Agent for Ebenezer Auto and Repair LLC, second hand motor vehicle dealer's license renewal application with adding stockholder and transfer of stack for Ebenezer Auto and Repair LLC at 4440 West Forest Home Avenue. Is Javyan M Garasquio Robles present? All right, is he on virtually perhaps? Harvian M. Garasquillo Robles. All right. Licenses have we have you heard from the applicant? No, I'm not sure. Alderman Burgelis, have you heard from this applicant? I have not. Is this their first time non-appearance? Yes. Alderwoman Andrea Pratt moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered. I have to pass the gavel now as we enter the eighth Alderman District. Okay, Madam Vice Chair. Oh yes. So next up on our on our 9 a.m. agenda, we have Wadud Ahmad, agent for U.S. Petrol LLC, filling station, food dealer, and weights and measures license renewal application for U.S. petrol at 2931 West Lincoln Avenue. Is Wadud Ahmad present? Okay. So please uh come have a seat here. Please raise your right hand to be sworn in. He's the applicant. I'm his counsel.
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