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Fire and Police Commission Regular Session – September 3, 2026

Common Council — Thursday, September 3, 2026
BodyMilwaukee, Wisconsin
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DateThursday, September 3, 2026
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This is the September 3, 2026 regular meeting of the Fire and Police Commission.

0:07

Present are Commissioners Burgos, Evans, Fung, Ramey, Schneider, Spence, World Patterson, and myself, Commissioner Horowitz.

0:17

Also present are FEC Executive Director, Leon Todd, and Deputy Director Jay Pousset.

0:25

Director, please proceed with the agenda.

0:28

Thank you, Madam Chair.

0:29

Before we proceed with the agenda, if I can beg your indulgence, I would just like to make a brief announcement.

0:34

Yeah, we have an announcement.

0:36

I do want to say publicly uh and acknowledge that our deputy director, Jay Pusick will be uh leaving uh the FPC very shortly.

0:44

This is his last week with the FPC.

0:46

He's he's moving on to bigger and better things.

0:49

He uh uh has had the honor of being appointed uh a circuit court judge uh for Milwaukee County.

0:55

So he'll be joining uh the judiciary very soon.

0:58

And I just want to uh one congratulate him on that and also uh acknowledge that this uh well it is good for him is uh not less than great for the FPC.

1:08

Uh we're I'm very happy for him.

1:10

Yes, congratulations.

1:15

Um this is a uh a loss for the FPC.

1:19

Deputy Director PUCSAC has been a uh a great asset to the FPC, both in terms of uh being advice an advisor to myself, uh helping to push things forward in terms of constitutional uh policing, community and problem-oriented policing, um uh advocating for that, educating me uh to a greater extent on that.

1:41

He's been fantastic uh working with the staff, and uh he has done a lot to uh improve the fire and police commission and push things forward here.

1:51

Uh that said, as good as a deputy director uh that I think I he is, I think he will make an even better judge.

1:59

He's gonna be fantastic, both in terms of substantive and procedural justice, uh a commitment to to fairness and equity, and just uh a top-notch keen legal mind.

2:10

So uh again, many thanks uh Jay.

2:13

Appreciate everything you've done and congratulations.

2:16

Thank you.

2:16

Thank you, Director Todd.

2:18

And and I just want to um say a couple of words.

2:20

I know everybody wants to get to the microphones tonight and to make your comments, but uh first I just want to um thank the the FPC staff.

2:29

Um those most of those folks are uh not transparent to y'all.

2:33

They they work behind the scenes to support the work that the board does.

2:37

Um it's a it's a fairly large full-time staff, it's about 30 people.

2:40

They do tremendous work uh to both um oversee, investigate um and audit the public safety departments here in the city, and they do really great work uh in that capacity.

2:53

They also do the hiring testing and promoting to try to get the best people possible into the public safety departments.

2:59

Um, and it's sometimes thankless work, it's difficult, uh, but it's been a uh uh a real honor uh for me to be the person that's actually primarily what my job has been uh in this role is to help uh support and guide those folks in their work.

3:16

Um, and I just want to call out that work uh and thank them for the dedication that they have serving the community of Milwaukee.

3:24

Um also wanted to thank the commissioners here for the dedication and the work that they do to try to make sure that public safety is honoring the best practices that um that we can find uh around the country.

3:36

Um and finally, I I want to thank you all.

3:39

Um thank you for being here.

3:41

Um the enthusiasm, uh the persuasive arguments, the passion that you all bring uh every time this board meets is really needed.

3:52

Um, and I'm always so happy to see y'all.

3:55

Um, glad to see such a big turnout here tonight.

3:58

Um I really believe in the mission of uh public or uh civilian oversight of um law enforcement and public safety.

4:08

It's a really uh a valuable thing for a community to have.

4:12

It doesn't always work perfectly, right?

4:14

And we know that but it is something and it is important.

4:18

Um policing in a democracy means being transparent with the people, and it means working with the people to figure out what law enforcement and policing and problem solving looks like for the citizens of a community.

4:35

And this board helps try to accomplish that and link the community with the public safety departments to hopefully find uh ways that the departments can conform their conduct to what the needs of the people are.

4:51

So thank you all for being here.

4:53

This wouldn't work without you.

4:54

And so uh this is democracy in action, and it's really beautiful to see.

4:58

So happy to see you all.

5:00

Um it's it's certainly been a great honor for me to serve you all and the people of Milwaukee in this role, and I'm super excited to have the opportunity to continue to serve the people of Milwaukee County in my new role.

5:13

So thank you all.

5:22

All right.

5:22

Well, thank you, Jay.

5:25

All right, we'll move on and get into the substance.

5:28

Uh we'll begin with item number one, public comment.

5:30

Uh, for those who would like to speak and are here in person, please come and sit at the front table when your name is called.

5:36

If you're appearing virtually and have registered in advance to speak, please use the raise my hand feature in the webinar tools and unmute yourself when called upon to speak.

5:45

Each person will be given up to five minutes to speak.

5:48

Uh, I would ask uh there's a lot of people here, so out of respect for everybody, um, if everybody can limit their uh their statements to five minutes so we can get to everybody.

5:57

That would be greatly appreciated.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety██████████████████████████████████34%
Technology and Innovation████████████████████████24%
Procedural█████████████13%
Police Procedures█████████████13%
Personnel Matters██████████10%
Immigration Enforcement███3%
Community Engagement███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Fire and Police Commission Regular Session – September 3, 2026

The Fire and Police Commission (FPC) held a regular meeting on Thursday, September 3, 2026, starting at 6:55 PM and adjourning at 9:27 PM at City Hall, Room 301-B. All eight commissioners were present. The meeting began with a tribute to departing Deputy Director Jay Pusick, who was appointed as a Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge. The public comment period was dominated by 30 speakers overwhelmingly opposing the Milwaukee Police Department's (MPD) contract with Flock Safety automated license plate readers (ALPRs), citing misuse, privacy violations, and a demand to cancel the contract. The consent agenda was approved without debate. The commission reviewed and placed on file eight updates to MPD standard operating procedures and standard operating instructions. Personnel actions—appointments, promotions, and rescissions—for the Department of Emergency Communications, Fire Department, and Police Department were approved, with one notable exception: a motion to waive a rule for two police aides to enter the academy before turning 21 was defeated and the resolution placed on file.

Announcement

  • Deputy Director Jay Pusick was recognized for his service; he will leave the FPC to serve as a Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge. Commissioner Horwitz and others praised his contributions to constitutional policing and community oversight.

Consent Calendar

  • FPC212666: Resolution approving the July 16, 2026, meeting minutes – ADOPTED by general consent.
  • FPC212667: Appointments (2) to Youth Fleet Apprentice within the Milwaukee Fire Department – ADOPTED.
  • FPC212668: Appointments (3) to Crime Analyst I position within the Milwaukee Police Department – ADOPTED.
  • FPC212669: Building Maintenance Technician eligible list for MPD – ADOPTED.
  • FPC212670: Crime Scene Supervisor eligible list for MPD – ADOPTED.
  • FPC212671: HR Supervisor eligible list for MPD – ADOPTED.
  • FPC212672: HVAC Maintenance Technician 3 eligible list for MPD – ADOPTED.
  • FPC212673: IT Project Coordinator eligible list for MPD – ADOPTED.

Public Comments & Testimony

Thirty individuals spoke, nearly all urging the Commission to end MPD's Flock Safety ALPR contract and oppose all mass surveillance technology. Key speakers and positions:

  • Alondra Garcia (Voces de la Frontera board president): Asked the FPC not to renew the Flock grant, citing ICE raids and fears of data misuse.
  • Kaye Lafond: Demanded a complete ban on all ALPRs, not just Flock.
  • Emilio De Torre (Milwaukee Turners): Detailed how MPD circumvented competitive bidding using sole-source contracts and urged the FPC to recommend ending the Flock contract.
  • Amanda Merkwae (ACLU of Wisconsin policy director): Described Milwaukee's surveillance infrastructure as a "sprawling panopticon" and listed numerous technologies without proper oversight.
  • Napoleon Jones: Described his own experience of being tracked hundreds of times after filing a citizen complaint against Waukesha County Sheriff's deputies, showing records of Flock searches used for retaliation.
  • Rachel Ida Buff: Called the surveillance a threat to constitutional liberties.
  • Emah Isis: Argued against replacing one policy with another, demanding a community-centered approach and cancellation of Flock.
  • Angela Lang: Expressed frustration with the lack of community dialogue and accused the mayor and police chief of being disingenuous.
  • Nickolas X Doherty (Milwaukee Turners): Said regulation will not work, citing multiple officer arrests for misuse.
  • Bara Omari (Wisconsin Muslim Civic Alliance): Raised concerns about surveillance targeting Muslim and immigrant communities.
  • Candice Owley (League of Women Voters of Milwaukee County): Opposed Flock as a threat to democratic rights.
  • Julie Hueller Curcio (virtual): Criticized the Commission for allowing the police chief to train in Israel and ignoring community concerns about surveillance.
  • Several other speakers shared personal stories of being wrongly flagged by ALPRs, including a woman held at gunpoint on I-94 due to an outdated Flock alert.

Discussion Items

  • FPC212675 – MPD Standard Operating Procedure/Instruction Changes: Assistant Chief Craig Sarno presented eight policy updates, including changes to Limited Duty Status, Financial Crime Complaints, Critical Incident Review Board (now requires chief review within 14 days), Merit Award Program (new awards, single annual ceremony), Computer Equipment, Social Networking Sites (updated for modern platforms, added generative AI language), Sexual Assault Investigations SOI (victim choice of interview location, soft rooms in every district and PAB), and School Resource Officer SOI (assignment beginning of school year, panel interview flexibility). Commissioners expressed appreciation for the soft room expansion and suggested acknowledging problem-oriented policing in awards. The communication was PLACED ON FILE.
  • FPC212679 – Rescinding promotion to Emergency Communications Officer IV: The Department explained that the employee (Katie Hanson) had been on extended medical leave and unable to complete required training. After discussion about accommodation obligations and timing, the resolution was ADOPTED (unanimous voice vote).
  • FPC212685 – Waive Rule XI, Section 2(a) for two Police Aides: MPD requested a waiver to allow two police aides, who would turn 21 within days of the academy start, to enter the December class. The FPC Executive Director argued that FPC staff could not complete pre-employment processing in time, and noted a March class was available. Commissioner Burgos noted historical practice of waiving the rule when birthdays fell within the same pay period, but other commissioners cited feasibility concerns. The motion to PLACE ON FILE (i.e., reject the waiver) carried 7–1 (Commissioner Burgos dissenting).

Key Outcomes

  • All consent agenda items were adopted by general consent.
  • MPD policy updates were placed on file without further action.
  • Appointments and promotions (DEC, Fire, Police) were all approved (mostly unanimous voice votes or roll calls):
    • FPC212677 (15 ECO I appointments) – Adopted.
    • FPC212678 (9 contingent ECO I appointments) – Adopted.
    • FPC212679 (rescind promotion to ECO IV) – Adopted (placed on file).
    • FPC212680 (promotion to Emergency Vehicle Mechanic 3) – Adopted.
    • FPC212681 (promotion without exam to Painter 3) – Adopted (roll call: 8–0).
    • FPC212682 (rescind 4 Firefighter appointments) – Adopted.
    • FPC212683 (rescind 4 Fire Cadet appointments) – Adopted.
    • FPC212684 (promotion to Maintenance Assistant) – Adopted (roll call: 8–0).
    • FPC212685 (waive rule for Police Aides) – Placed on file (7–1).
    • FPC212686 (rescind Police Officer – Transfer) – Adopted.
    • FPC212687 (rescind 14 Police Officer appointments) – Adopted.
    • FPC212688 (rescind 3 Police Aide appointments) – Adopted.
    • FPC212689 (rescind 2 Police District Administrative Assistant appointments) – Adopted.
  • Meeting adjourned at 9:27 PM.

Meeting Transcript

This is the September 3, 2026 regular meeting of the Fire and Police Commission. Present are Commissioners Burgos, Evans, Fung, Ramey, Schneider, Spence, World Patterson, and myself, Commissioner Horowitz. Also present are FEC Executive Director, Leon Todd, and Deputy Director Jay Pousset. Director, please proceed with the agenda. Thank you, Madam Chair. Before we proceed with the agenda, if I can beg your indulgence, I would just like to make a brief announcement. Yeah, we have an announcement. I do want to say publicly uh and acknowledge that our deputy director, Jay Pusick will be uh leaving uh the FPC very shortly. This is his last week with the FPC. He's he's moving on to bigger and better things. He uh uh has had the honor of being appointed uh a circuit court judge uh for Milwaukee County. So he'll be joining uh the judiciary very soon. And I just want to uh one congratulate him on that and also uh acknowledge that this uh well it is good for him is uh not less than great for the FPC. Uh we're I'm very happy for him. Yes, congratulations. Um this is a uh a loss for the FPC. Deputy Director PUCSAC has been a uh a great asset to the FPC, both in terms of uh being advice an advisor to myself, uh helping to push things forward in terms of constitutional uh policing, community and problem-oriented policing, um uh advocating for that, educating me uh to a greater extent on that. He's been fantastic uh working with the staff, and uh he has done a lot to uh improve the fire and police commission and push things forward here. Uh that said, as good as a deputy director uh that I think I he is, I think he will make an even better judge. He's gonna be fantastic, both in terms of substantive and procedural justice, uh a commitment to to fairness and equity, and just uh a top-notch keen legal mind. So uh again, many thanks uh Jay. Appreciate everything you've done and congratulations. Thank you. Thank you, Director Todd. And and I just want to um say a couple of words. I know everybody wants to get to the microphones tonight and to make your comments, but uh first I just want to um thank the the FPC staff. Um those most of those folks are uh not transparent to y'all. They they work behind the scenes to support the work that the board does. Um it's a it's a fairly large full-time staff, it's about 30 people. They do tremendous work uh to both um oversee, investigate um and audit the public safety departments here in the city, and they do really great work uh in that capacity. They also do the hiring testing and promoting to try to get the best people possible into the public safety departments. Um, and it's sometimes thankless work, it's difficult, uh, but it's been a uh uh a real honor uh for me to be the person that's actually primarily what my job has been uh in this role is to help uh support and guide those folks in their work. Um, and I just want to call out that work uh and thank them for the dedication that they have serving the community of Milwaukee. Um also wanted to thank the commissioners here for the dedication and the work that they do to try to make sure that public safety is honoring the best practices that um that we can find uh around the country. Um and finally, I I want to thank you all. Um thank you for being here. Um the enthusiasm, uh the persuasive arguments, the passion that you all bring uh every time this board meets is really needed. Um, and I'm always so happy to see y'all. Um, glad to see such a big turnout here tonight. Um I really believe in the mission of uh public or uh civilian oversight of um law enforcement and public safety. It's a really uh a valuable thing for a community to have. It doesn't always work perfectly, right? And we know that but it is something and it is important. Um policing in a democracy means being transparent with the people, and it means working with the people to figure out what law enforcement and policing and problem solving looks like for the citizens of a community. And this board helps try to accomplish that and link the community with the public safety departments to hopefully find uh ways that the departments can conform their conduct to what the needs of the people are. So thank you all for being here. This wouldn't work without you. And so uh this is democracy in action, and it's really beautiful to see. So happy to see you all. Um it's it's certainly been a great honor for me to serve you all and the people of Milwaukee in this role, and I'm super excited to have the opportunity to continue to serve the people of Milwaukee County in my new role.

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