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Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission Meeting - October 2, 2026

Common Council — Friday, October 2, 2026
BodyMilwaukee, Wisconsin
SessionCommon Council
DateFriday, October 2, 2026
StatusFILED
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Speaker numbers apply only to this recording.

Speaker 1

0:00

Director, please proceed with the uh agenda.

Speaker 2

0:06

We will begin with item number one public comment.

0:08

For those who would like you in person, please come up into the front table where your name is called.

0:14

If you are hearing virtually, please use the raise my hand feature and the webinar tools and unmute yourself and call on speech.

0:26

I think with people who are here in person.

0:29

The first is Jody

Speaker 3

0:32

Summons.

Speaker 4

0:36

Right

Unassigned speaker

0:37

there.

Speaker 4

0:42

Well, we should tell them that the mic

Speaker 2

0:44

for those who want to be on.

0:46

Um

Speaker 5

0:53

just in your face, it's fine.

Speaker 6

0:57

Just speak loud.

0:58

Yeah, yes, yeah, it's a

Speaker 2

1:00

clear.

1:02

You'll find that speaking.

Speaker 6

1:08

I've lived in many places throughout my life.

Unassigned speaker

1:11

This is the only city where I was treated like a criminal by Milwaukee PD.

Speaker 6

1:15

A man with paler skin over a huge rat sheet was treated more vocal than I was.

1:20

A black man with only two skin pictures on his record.

1:24

I was chastised more for reacting filterily to a man who was me, threatening my life over a misunderstanding and just entitlement.

1:32

It was unknown to me at the time, but he shot his gun into the air because of a letter I wrote to him.

1:37

I do admit I could have handled it a different way, but I reached my breaking point.

1:42

I knew he would not leave me alone, so I felt like I had to confront him.

Unassigned speaker

1:46

I

Speaker 6

1:46

didn't expect to be, I didn't expect him to be arrested, nor did I want him to.

1:51

I ran out of options.

1:52

The police still took his side despite me calling them.

1:56

They had already made up their minds about me because they're just like them.

2:00

One of the officers would purposely act like toots and would misinterpret my complaint.

2:07

I cannot tell my full story.

2:09

I claimed I blocked them, I avoided him, then he gave me the creeps.

2:13

I was told I shouldn't live in the building with different people.

2:16

I had video evidence that I was minding my business, walk into my car, disputing the lives of my harasser and the so-called witnesses with zero context of what was really happening.

2:28

It was their word against mine to cite me calling the police.

2:31

This man explained to me to them next time that he would use his name affiliation, the more cycle outlaw group.

2:39

Under the clinic tree of justice.

2:44

Didn't see anything wrong with that, nor did it FPC.

2:47

This man has a documented history going back 20 years, battery convictions, a felony gun battery charge, multiple domestic abuse cases.

Speaker 7

2:56

He

Speaker 6

2:56

had multiple negative interactions with people in my previous building.

2:59

He battered a previous tenant with the bat.

3:02

He coined a gun at a previous tenant at both times to police administered.

3:07

When officers won't investigate or make a report or even take threats seriously, the burden is shipped onto the victim.

3:15

In Milwaukee, the citizens are assigned to be their own detector because they know Milwaukee won't or can't do anything if they even bother showing up.

3:24

Where are the citizens' tax dollars on?

3:26

I filed a complaint with the fire and police commission.

3:29

The commission still didn't find anything wrong how that encounter was handled.

3:33

My complaint was non-sustained, according to a colonel affairs.

3:38

I believe that if I would have been killed or injured, the operator involved would only be consequence of political things.

3:45

We've seen this before with Bonnie Lou, she reported her abusers to the department because she was killed legally there.

3:53

The officers involved.

3:56

I'm sorry, the officer Bob were with the point for their inaction and the proper comments.

Unassigned speaker

4:02

This

Speaker 6

4:02

was the same for Jeffrey Converse.

4:05

I had to relocate from my home in such a short notice, and it's both a huge mental and physical co-oping.

4:10

My experience isn't unique, and I feel like the final statistics are accurate due to on the reporting.

4:16

I would ask if the police department would do better analyzing dynamics, dynamics of abuse, but hell will freeze over before that could ever happen.

Unassigned speaker

4:24

The

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Police Procedures████████████████████████████28%
Public Safety███████████████████████████27%
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Personnel Matters██2%
Technology and Innovation█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Milwaukee Fire and Police Commission Meeting - October 2, 2026

The Fire and Police Commission (FPC) held a regular session on October 2, 2026, at 6:26 PM at the Milwaukee Fire and Police Safety Academy. The meeting featured extensive public comment criticizing Police Chief Jeffrey Norman's 2025 trip to Israel, MPD accountability, and the city's surveillance infrastructure. The Commission voted unanimously (8-0) on several personnel actions including lateral transfer announcements, probation extensions, and promotions across the police and fire departments. The meeting adjourned at 8:39 PM.

Consent Calendar

  • FPC212717: September 17, 2026 meeting minutes approved by general consent.
  • FPC212718: Appointment to a Police Services Specialist - Investigator position approved by general consent.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Jody Summors: Described a negative encounter with MPD involving alleged profiling, stating their complaint was ruled "non-sustained" despite providing video evidence.
  • Ihsan Atta: Condemned Chief Norman's training trip to Israel as a partnership with an "apartheid regime" committing genocide and called for the Chief's removal.
  • Emah Isis: Argued the MPD internal accountability system is an "invisible barrier" to justice, noting multiple personal complaints ended in "not sustained" findings.
  • Waleed Nassar: Presented the itinerary of Chief Norman's Israel trip, highlighting visits to the Mabat 2000 surveillance center and the Gates Balon facility. They expressed fear and discomfort as a Palestinian Milwaukeean resident.
  • Diego Garcia (Co-chair, Milwaukee Alliance Against Racist Violence): Issued a failing grade for Chief Norman's performance, citing high-speed chase fatalities, costly legal settlements, and the Israel trip. Opposed the proposed MPD budget increase for 2027.
  • Brian Verdin: Expressed no confidence in Chief Norman, criticizing his handling of the death of Sam Shark Jr. during the RNC and his acceptance of a $60,000 raise.
  • Emilio Detorre (Semi-retired attorney): Called the Chief's Israel trip a disqualifying act of poor judgment, alleging it aligns with training from a regime using brutal tactics.
  • Tayyibah Sethi: Demanded the Chief be fired, a permanent ban placed on facial recognition, an ethics investigation into MPD gifts from Lockheed Martin, and for the FPC to stop acting as a "rubber stamp."
  • Amanda Merkwae (Moore Turnerist): Stated that while crime rates are down, the Chief's trip and lack of transparency regarding Flock and facial recognition technology have ruptured public trust.
  • Ron Jansson: Questioned the FPC's awareness of the full scope of MPD surveillance technology (Flock, Axon, drones, cell site simulators) and data sharing practices with federal fusion centers. Noted the MPS school board voted unanimously to remove Flock cameras from school property.
  • Julie Curcio (virtual) and Kaye Lafond (virtual): Criticized Commissioners for their silence and complicity in Chief Norman's actions and the expansion of the surveillance state.

Discussion Items

  • MPD Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) Changes (FPC212719): MPD presented amendments aligning juvenile questioning procedures with a March 2026 court ruling requiring Miranda warnings for juveniles in custody. Commissioner Fung voiced strong support for the juvenile SOP update. The communication was placed on file.
  • Probation Extension for Emergency Communications Lead (FPC212720): The item was initially held to allow the affected employee to address the Commission. The board convened in closed session. Following the closed session, the resolution was adopted (8-0) with an explicit expectation from Commissioners that no further training extensions would be needed.

Key Outcomes

  • FPC212729: Police Officer - Transfer (Lateral) job announcement bulletin adopted (8-0).
  • FPC212730: Firefighter - Transfer (Lateral) eligible list adopted (8-0).
  • FPC212721: Probation extensions for two Emergency Communications Officer II positions approved (8-0).
  • FPC212723: Probation extensions for five Fire Lieutenant positions approved (8-0).
  • FPC212724: Promotion of Michael Dirks to Captain of Police approved (8-0).
  • FPC212725: Promotions of Oriana Cabasos and Daniel Appel to Police Lieutenant approved (8-0).
  • FPC212726: Promotions of Michael Swart and Lando Gonzales to Police Sergeant approved (8-0).
  • FPC212727: Promotions of five individuals to Detective approved (8-0).
  • FPC212728: Rescinding appointments to two Office Assistant II positions approved (8-0).

Meeting Transcript

Director, please proceed with the uh agenda. We will begin with item number one public comment. For those who would like you in person, please come up into the front table where your name is called. If you are hearing virtually, please use the raise my hand feature and the webinar tools and unmute yourself and call on speech. I think with people who are here in person. The first is Jody Summons. Right there. Well, we should tell them that the mic for those who want to be on. Um just in your face, it's fine. Just speak loud. Yeah, yes, yeah, it's a clear. You'll find that speaking. I've lived in many places throughout my life. This is the only city where I was treated like a criminal by Milwaukee PD. A man with paler skin over a huge rat sheet was treated more vocal than I was. A black man with only two skin pictures on his record. I was chastised more for reacting filterily to a man who was me, threatening my life over a misunderstanding and just entitlement. It was unknown to me at the time, but he shot his gun into the air because of a letter I wrote to him. I do admit I could have handled it a different way, but I reached my breaking point. I knew he would not leave me alone, so I felt like I had to confront him. I didn't expect to be, I didn't expect him to be arrested, nor did I want him to. I ran out of options. The police still took his side despite me calling them. They had already made up their minds about me because they're just like them. One of the officers would purposely act like toots and would misinterpret my complaint. I cannot tell my full story. I claimed I blocked them, I avoided him, then he gave me the creeps. I was told I shouldn't live in the building with different people. I had video evidence that I was minding my business, walk into my car, disputing the lives of my harasser and the so-called witnesses with zero context of what was really happening. It was their word against mine to cite me calling the police. This man explained to me to them next time that he would use his name affiliation, the more cycle outlaw group. Under the clinic tree of justice. Didn't see anything wrong with that, nor did it FPC. This man has a documented history going back 20 years, battery convictions, a felony gun battery charge, multiple domestic abuse cases. He had multiple negative interactions with people in my previous building. He battered a previous tenant with the bat. He coined a gun at a previous tenant at both times to police administered. When officers won't investigate or make a report or even take threats seriously, the burden is shipped onto the victim. In Milwaukee, the citizens are assigned to be their own detector because they know Milwaukee won't or can't do anything if they even bother showing up. Where are the citizens' tax dollars on? I filed a complaint with the fire and police commission. The commission still didn't find anything wrong how that encounter was handled. My complaint was non-sustained, according to a colonel affairs.

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