Good morning.

My name is Aisha Chugtai, and I am the chair of the budget committee.

I'm going to call to order our adjourned meeting for Friday, September 19th, 2025.

Before we begin the meeting, I want to offer a friendly reminder to all members, staff, and the public that these meetings are broadcast live to enable greater public participation.

These broadcasts include real-time captioning as a further method to increase the accessibility of our proceedings to the community.

Therefore, all speakers need to be mindful of the rate of their speech so that our captioners can fully capture and transcribe all comments for the broadcast.

We ask all speakers to moderate the speed and clarity of their comments.

At this time, I will ask the clerk to call the roll so we can verify the presence of a quorum.

Councilmember Payne.

Present.

Ellison absent.

Osman is absent.

Cashman is absent.

Jenkins.

Absent.

Chavez.

Present.

Chowdry.

Present.

Palmasano.

Present.

Vice Chair Koske.

Present.

Chair Chugtai.

Present.

There are nine members present.

Let the record reflect that we have a quorum.

I will also note that we have been joined in this committee by Councilmember Cashman.

I will also remind my colleagues that we will be using speaker management today, so please make sure to sign in.

We have one item on our agenda today, which is to receive public comments on the mayor's recommended 2026 budget.

Mayor Fry presented his budget on August 13th this year, providing a proposed fiscal plan for the city's operations next year, totaling just about $2 billion with an increase to the city property tax levy of about 7.8%.

The Board of Estimate and Taxation met just this week and voted to authorize a tax levy of up to 8%.

A copy of the mayor's recommended budget is posted on the city's website, which is available at Minneapolis Mn.gov slash budget.

A PDF version is available on LIMS.

Since the mayor presented his budget, the budget committee has begun meeting to receive a series of presentations to examine the details of each department's budget requests.

These meetings are available on demand on the city's YouTube channel.

They take place in these chambers, and anyone in the public is welcome to attend.

Today's public hearing is the first of four hearings that the city council will conduct on the proposed 2026 budget.

The budget committee will hold our second public hearing on Monday, October 6th at 1 30 p.m.

in these chambers.

And then our fourth and final public hearing, which will be the one required by state law, is scheduled for a meeting of the City Council on Tuesday, December 9th at 6.05 p.m.

And now before we open the floor to public comments, I will recognize Mr.

Justin Coles, our budget manager, who will provide a brief summary of the proposed budget.

Welcome, Mr.

Coles.

Good morning, Chair Chugtai and committee members.

My name is Justin Coles, and I serve as the budget manager within the budget division of finance and property services.

I'm here today to provide a brief overview of the resources available to both the committee as well as the public and to highlight some key milestones remaining in the 2025 calendar year as we collectively work towards to adopt the 26th budget.

These milestones represent important opportunities for community engagement in the budget process and for individuals to make their voices heard.

For a more more robust discussion of the 2026 recommended budget, I recommend viewing the budget overview that we presented to this body on September 8th.

In this abridged presentation, I'll begin by walking through the structure of the budget book and highlighting key sections that help identify changes within the budget.

Following that, I'll present the maximum property tax levy residents can expect as adopted by the Board of Estimate and Taxation earlier this week.

I'll additionally provide a demonstration or preview of the levy impact estimator.

That tool offers a more detailed analysis of how levy growth translates to a sample property tax bill.

Finally, I'll conclude with a preview of the remaining key dates in the budget process and outline opportunities for public input and engagement.

The budget team works hard to publish the budget book every year, and we make refinements annually based on feedback from our colleagues and the public.

Our goal is a readable document that explains financial and policy decisions.

We design each page to answer those key questions.

This year we added more detail on each department page on staffing levels.

That info was available last year, but it was harder to find.

Now it's directly on the department's page.

We also added a 2026 budget changes section on department pages as applicable, which narrates the funding reductions and limited increases as well as any transfers in between departments.

The QR code on the top left of this slide will take the reader directly to the budget page on the city's website.

From there, you can select the 2026 recommended budget, which is shown alongside the adopted budget for the current year.

Additionally, the link at the top of this slide that says online budget book will take you directly to the budget document.

This is a preview of what you will find in the table of contents on the budget book.

As indicated on the left of the slide, the third and fourth sections detail the operating and capital budgets in the 2026 recommended budget.

Really key to focus in here is the operating departments section, which is then broken down by office, and that is where you will find significant budget changes as well as FTE changes within each of the departments.

Over the next few slides, I'll preview the levy table and five-year financial direction as well as the levy impact estimator tool.

As adopted by BET earlier this week, the maximum property tax growth in the 20 in the 26 budget is capped at eight point at 8% above 2025.

This will be certified to the county as required by September 30th.

And while the approved growth in 26 exceeds that of 25, if you look in the out years of the financial direction, you will see decreases closer to two to three percent heading into 2031.

The budget division has once again partnered with the assessors department to develop an interactive levy impact estimator for both residents and members of this committee.

This tool allows users to input specific property values and explore how various proposed levy scenarios could affect their estimated property tax bill.

It's intended to support data-informed decision making and promote transparency throughout the budget process.

The tool is directly linked in the budget book, available on the city assessor's public website and available via the QR code on this slide.

In the example here, we're examining a citywide residential homestead property under an eight point an 8% levy increase.

The table below outlines the estimated tax impact across a range of market values, while the map above illustrates how those are impacted by Ward.

Please note that these figures are estimates.

Certain elements of the final tax calculation, such as assessed property values and state aids will not be finalized until later in the year.

This final slide outlines the remaining department budget presentations and public engagement opportunities for the rest of the calendar year.

We're currently at the first of four scheduled public hearings, with the final hearing taking place before the full council on December 9th.

To enhance participation, these hearings have been scheduled in both daytime and early evening hours.

In addition, we encourage everyone to follow the departmental budget presentations, which began this week and will conclude October 27th.

The QR code displayed on this slide links directly to the budget committee's calendar, where you can find full details for each engagement opportunity and access all the related presentation materials.

Finally, I'll note that Director DeSenza and myself will are currently in talks with uh council members to come out to community and provide curated budget presentations, and those will be announced uh through your respective um council members.

And with that, we will conclude with our presentation.

Thank you for your presentation.

Uh Mr.

Coles, uh, before we proceed to the public um hearing, I want to see if any of my colleagues have any comments or questions uh related to either this presentation or the recommended budget.

Wonderful.

Not seeing any.

So with that, um, we are going to proceed to open the public hearing in just a minute here.

I want to start first by reviewing a few procedural matters so we are all on the same page.

If you have written comments or materials to submit, um, whether that looks like you are someone that doesn't want to come up and offer testimony, but you have something to share and want to um submit that in writing, or if you run out of time and you want to make sure the rest of your comments are still received by this body, you can please give those to the clerks either over here to my right-hand side and your left, or um you can uh bring those to outside to the registration table.

That was right where you walked into the chambers.

We have uh printed comment forms available at the registration table if you would like to submit a comment, but don't have something written out already.

I would also encourage everyone to take advantage of submitting your comments about the budget in other ways.

The easiest way to submit your comments and make sure that they are added to the public record is to send those uh from the city's website at Minneapolismn.gov slash public comment.

All submitted comments again will be included in the official public record related to the 2026 budget.

We will be taking speakers in the order that they are registered.

If you would like to testify, I invite you to register your name with the clerks at the table in the hallway outside of these chambers.

Every speaker should be assigned a number.

You got a little ticket that has a number on it.

We will be calling speakers by number.

Because we are limited on available seating in this room and I believe we still have a little bit more space in here, so we're doing pretty well.

Um there is an overflow room where the public can monitor this meeting.

If you're registered to speak but aren't able to sit in the chamber, please head towards the chamber as we get close to your number.

I will list them out three at a time.

Um, so you'll have a little bit of a heads up and and can start making your way into the chambers.

If you are someone who um just ends up missing uh your name, you will all you will have the opportunity to come up and speak at the end.

Don't worry if you if you accidentally get skipped over.

Um, each registered speaker will be given two minutes to address the committee.

We have a timer available that's sitting right by the clerks that will we will use to monitor time.

It makes a very loud beep when you are out of time.

Um we ask that you wrap up your comments when your time has expired so that we can accommodate all speakers today and that we're fair to everyone.

We also ask that everyone be respectful of all the speakers and of all opinions that are offered, even when they differ from our own.

We have arranged for interpretation services for those who may need assistance to participate in today's hearing.

If you are someone who is needing that assistance, please let the clerks at the registration table know.

We have interpreters that are available here today for those who are needing Spanish or uh Somali services.

Um I understand there are sometimes interpreters that come in that are part of organizations.

You uh can just choose whichever interpreter you feel the most comfortable with, and you are welcome to make your way here.

If you are someone who will be uh supported by an interpreter, we will accommodate your time to four minutes so that you are given a fair opportunity to also uh share your comments with us.

I understand that we have, I believe, ten speakers who are registered to speak today.

Again, before I open the public hearing, I'll invite anyone who has not registered and wishes to speak to register with the clerks at the table in the hallway outside of the chambers.

We'll ask each speaker to self-identify for the public record before your comments.

So just let us know your name.

So today our first five speakers are Myra Area Arreira.

Artemis Swanson, that's speaker number two.

Speaker number three is Steen Burgesson.

Speaker number four is Jake Dungey.

And Speaker number five is Faduma Mohammed.

So we'll begin with speaker number one, Myra, if you want to make your way over.

Welcome, thank you very much for being here.

Okay, perfect.

Good morning.

I am a Minneapolis resident and worker.

I live in Ward 9, Councilmember Chavez's ward.

Earlier this year, I got taken advantage of by my employer.

I completed my house.

I'm so sorry, I'm gonna interrupt, and if we can just pause their timer.

Yeah, so it actually it works best if we leave the mic where it is and we have you move it.

All of the equipment in here is very sensitive.

I'm so sorry.

All good.

Wonderful.

That way we just we just want to be able to hear you, so we're documenting that for the record.

Thank you.

Un poquito mess.

Um, I completed my house cleaning work exactly as I was asked to, and when it was time to receive my check, she told me that she couldn't pay me the full amount that I was owed.

My check was three weeks' worth of wages, which was impacting my ability to provide for me and my family.

She continued stalling for days, and I finally decided to confront her in person, which went badly since she didn't take me seriously and just told me to leave her alone.

I felt upset and worried about the situation, but I wasn't sure where to go to get support.

As an immigrant whose first language isn't English, it is a very daunting and scary task to navigate this kind of situation, especially in this political climate.

Here I was able to express my concerns and worries in a safe space.

Co-enforcement works helps bridge the gap between underrepresented workers like me who have a strong fear of speaking up and the resources that the city has available.

The Trump administration is doing everything in their power to harm my community with direct attacks and by cutting off programs and resources all throughout the country.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We will now welcome up speaker number two, which is Artemis Swanson.

Welcome, Artemis.

And after that, we will welcome Speaker number three, Steen uh Burgesson.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Good morning, everyone.

My name is Artemis Swanson.

I'm a resident in Ward 1 and a hospitality worker in Ward 10.

I've worked a number of customer service jobs in this city, from retail management to front desk at a hotel.

And if I had to use one word to describe my experience as a worker, it would be resignation.

I have felt resigned to rarely take time off, and even when I do, I am resigned to being available to come to work lest my hours be cut.

I've been resigned to having promised bonuses and raises be delayed and even denied, despite meeting performance metrics.

Above all else, I have felt resigned not to truly progress in my career, as I've seen how my fellow workers who've dedicated years of their lives to their employers rarely get the respect and care they need.

Followed by Jake Dunjee.

And after that, Speaker number five, Faduma Mohammed.

Welcome, Steen.

Good morning.

My name is Christine Bergison.

I go by Steen and I use they and them pronouns.

I live in Ward 10 and I work downtown in the North Loop.

I'm here today to fight back against Jacob Fry's proposed cuts to the co-enforcement budget.

Last year we saw real leadership from this council finding sustainable funding at the highest level the program has ever had.

So much has been done to support workers, and now Mayor Fry wants to cut that by more than half.

That's ridiculous.

I moved here from South Dakota a decade ago to work in Minneapolis restaurants where I assumed people were paid and treated well.

So when I found out that my friends had their tips and wages stolen, or when female co-workers confided in me about sexual harassment, I didn't know how to help or what recourse any of us had.

It was incredibly frustrating, and when I brought my concerns to my corporate managers, they told me that without proper documentation there was nothing they could do.

Our owners and managers do nothing to prevent these injustices from happening and take no action after harm has occurred.

They literally just shrug their shoulders and move on, and it feels very helpless and powerless.

SATOL has brought groundedness and knowledge into my work life, and without SATOL and the course co-enforcement program, I would not know the full extent of my rights or how to fight back when they're violated.

If the budget is slashed for co-enforcement, vital work being done to legitimize our experience in the industry will also be damaged.

In order to survive and thrive in a high violation industry, we have no choice but to continue showing up.

Mayor Fry stands with us in celebration of the two million dollars recovered from stolen wages, but our work is not finished.

Vote to restore the funding for the co-enforcement budget and prove to the workers of Minneapolis that you support us.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next we will welcome up Jake, Speaker number four, followed by speaker number five, Fadumal.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Good morning.

My name is Jake.

I live in Ward 7 and work at a restaurant in the North Loop.

Last time I was here, I spoke to the Public Health and Safety Committee about the need for paid rights trainings for workers in high violation industries.

And I told members a story about a co-worker of mine, a line cook, who was pressured into coming into work despite being ill and spread his illness around.

Today, I'm here to speak about the need to fully fund the co-enforcement program.

As the story I shared last time illustrates the restaurant industry as a toxic culture that thrives on sweeping violations under the rug.

Workers are pressured to come in when they're sick, keep quiet about harassment and discrimination, and work in unsafe conditions like extreme heat.

In my restaurant, the air conditioner's been broken for some time now, and I've personally seen the thermostat in the kitchen rise regularly above 100 degrees.

It's especially bad for the cooks and dishwashers whose jobs are very physically demanding.

There's a certain pressure within restaurant culture that forces you to take on more than you want to, or even more than what's lawful, and not to make a fuss about it.

There's also a fear of retaliation for speaking up about poor working conditions.

The co-enforcement program makes me feel like my co-workers and I have a safety net if we're ever retaliated against.

Otherwise, we wouldn't know where to go.

The first step toward training restaurant culture is worker education.

In working with Satul, I've had access to an organizer who understands restaurant culture and can help my co-workers and I to navigate the issues that we face.

We're now able to educate each other, and I can help co-workers make sure that they're getting their earned sick and save time, despite any hurdles management might put in their way.

My co-workers and I now have a resource that we can turn to to make sure that our rights are respected.

And every time we assert those rights, it gets easier.

This is how we're slowly turning the tide on restaurant culture in my workplace.

Let's not go backwards.

Please vote to restore funding to the co-enforcement program.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um the next three speakers that we will welcome are Speaker number five, Faduma Mohamed.

Speaker number six, Farnicia Neal, speaker number seven, Devante Hickman, and speaker number eight, Malcolm Wells.

Welcome Faduma.

Welcome.

Good morning, Chair Chucktai and Council members.

My name is Fadim Mohamed, and I organize that new justice project and with workers across Minneapolis.

I'm here today to urge you not to cut co-enforcement funding because this program is one of the most effective tools we have to protect workers' rights in our city.

Just seven months ago, Mayor Frey, Mayor Frey stood beside workers and celebrated the success of the labor standard enforcement division and covering almost two million dollars in stolen wages.

Yet now he is proposing 50% cut.

The kind of reversal is not just a budget decision.

It is a betrayal of low-wage workers, black and brown workers, immigrants, and single parents who are most at risk of having wages and sick time stolen.

We know this program works.

Since 2018, co-enforcement community partners have helped recover nearly a million in stolen mages with Minneapolis workers.

And the reach of this work grows every year.

Again, we are tired of showing up every year to defend the basic funding for this program.

The industries with the highest rates of violation are predicted to just keep growing.

Cutting funding now when violations are increasing and immigrant workers are under attack is a dangerous step backward.

If this administration is serious about fully funding co-enforcement, then it isn't serious about protecting workers or enforcing the rights the city has put into law.

We are grateful to the council members who continue to defend this program every year.

But this should be seen and treated as an essential program that is non-negotiable.

Minneapolis cannot afford to turn its back on workers.

This program needs to remain fully funded, and the budget cuts of any kind are unacceptable.

Protecting this money means protecting workers, and we need you to protect the workers' rights in Minneapolis.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Next, we're gonna welcome Speaker number six, Fredney Chanyol, followed by Devontae Hickman.

Welcome.

Good morning, Council President Payne and Council members.

My name is Frednee Chenille, and I am a member, I am a resident of War 5.

I'm a proud member of the New Justice Project, Minnesota, and I am here again to testify in support of the permanent funding of the co-enforcement.

Last year I stood here before you and shared my story about experiencing wage death.

I talked about working more than a hundred hours at a job I love to only never be paid.

I talked about how losing over $2,100 left me and my five children homeless and forced into unsafe living condition.

It made me choose between daycare, food, and keeping my family together.

That experience changed my life, and while I'm still feeling the effects today, what I want you to understand is this I shouldn't have to keep coming back here every year to beg for the protection of the workers like me.

I shouldn't have to come here every year just to beg for the protection that workers like me desperately need.

Workers are tired of having to show up again and again to fight to protect the co-enforcement program and its funding.

Cutting funding is a betrayal to workers in our families, especially low-wage workers.

Black, black and brown workers, immigrant workers, women, parents, and single mothers who are most at risk of having their wages and sick time stolen.

Co-enforcement workers is co-enforcement works.

It educates workers on their rights.

It helps us fight back when our employee and our employers take advantage of us.

It makes sure families like mine don't fall through the cracks.

But the truth is we need more than just defending this program, every budget cycle.

We need to strengthen it by creating a labor standard board so that workers have a permanent seat at the table.

So today I'm not just asking you to maintain this program.

I'm demanding that you fully fund co-enforcement permanently and take the next step to creating a labor standard, a labor standards board.

Workers deserve better.

I deserve better.

My children deserve better, and black women and black and brown workers across the city of uh this the entire city deserve better.

Thank you very much.

Um, next we have speaker number seven, Devontae Hickman, followed by Speaker number eight, Malcolm Wells.

Good morning, Council.

My name is Devonta Hickman.

I'm a War 5 resident and a member of the New Justice Project.

And I am here to again to testify in support of permanent funding for co-enforcement.

I was here last year sharing my story about what happened to me when I worked at Fogo de Chow and Moderday Boer.

Because of my health issues.

I get sick more than most people at Fogo De Chow.

I miss shifts because of my health.

What I didn't know and what nobody told me was that I had the right to pay sick time because I wasn't informed I lost what added up to an entire paycheck.

At Moderday Board, I was fired even after bringing in a doctor's note.

I lost my job simply for being sick.

That left me without a job with a felony background that made finding work harder and with four children at home to provide for their stress was overwhelming.

I was trying to do the right thing, but the system pushed me to the edge.

I said this last year, and I'll say it again.

Today no one should lose their job just because they're sick.

But here I am again because workers like me are still facing the same challenges, and workers are tired of having to show up every single year to fight for the same thing, protecting the co-enforcement program and is funding, cutting funding is a betrayal to workers and our families, especially low-wage workers, black and brown workers, immigrant workers, and single parents who are most at risk of having wage and sick time stolen.

If this administration isn't serious about a fully funded co-enforcement program, then it isn't serious about protecting workers and our basic rights.

Meanwhile, our work only, meanwhile, our work has only grown stronger in just the first four months of 2025.

We reached over a thousand workers through one-on-one conversation and get um Devante.

If you want to give us the rest of your public uh your comments, we can we can include that over here.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Um next, we have speaker number eight, Malcolm Wells, followed by Speaker number nine, Estella Dorado.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Um peace and good morning, council.

My name is Malcolm.

I'm a Minneapolis resident worker who organized a program director of New Justice Project.

I'm gonna just get straight to it for the businesses to make a lot of money in the industries where we're supporting workers from retail to restaurants to grocery stores.

You gotta take a lot of money to make a lot of money.

You don't get record profits over five years to a decade without exploiting workers.

It's not possible.

If you know that our workers being exploited in this city and you know we have ordinances to protect workers, why in the world would we cut funding to a program that does a deep relationship building and trust development that's required to address workplace violations?

Now, these employers are comfortable doing what they do because status quo says we got you, you're protected.

Status quote says you're insulated and a problematic employer is emboldened by a system that allows for it to happen.

Now imagine knowing you can't miss a single hour of work in this economy.

Imagine how much more difficult it can be to address an employer that's not paying you fairly, that's not honoring your earned sick time, or an employer that has created and upheld a work environment of harassment and bullying filled with safety violations that make it difficult to do the job at hand.

Our organizers are capable of doing this because we've been there.

We live in the same community, vote for the same candidates, eat at the same restaurant, shop at the same stores.

It's a lot easier confronting that employer that's done you wrong with the folks you've intentionally built community with.

It's easier standing up for ourselves together.

Now, my concern with this budget cut of 50% to co-enforcement is that it explicitly tells us where the priority is.

Clearly, the priority is not the workers who have been exploited.

It's not addressing stolen wages, it's not addressing corrupt employers.

This budget cut communicates to the working class people of the city that we do not care.

We do not care that your boss is not paying you fairly, but you better pay your taxes.

We do not care about the environment you work in, but you better show up and get the job done.

We should not have to come back every year to fight for a budget line item.

That's a drop in the bucket compared to where you send money across other departments and programs in the city.

So today, we are asking that you honor our requests not only to scratch the budget cut, but do what's right and hit the dollar mark to fully fund the co-enforcement program.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Next, we've got speaker number nine, Estella Torado.

Followed by Speaker Number 10.

Shelley Stein.

Welcome back, Ms.

Otto.

Thank you.

Hello, good morning.

My name is Estella.

I live in Minneapolis in Ward One and I work downtown.

I have been coming here for several years to ask for support for the co-enforcement program.

At first I came here with my son Freddie, who was three or four at the time, and now he's about to be eight.

It's not fair that as a mother I have to come here, carry my daughter, and leave behind other things that I have to do again to ask for this money.

With this program we can access training to learn about our rights.

This way we can avoid injustices such as not receiving our wages or not having access to paid sick time so we can take care of our sick children.

Thank you very much.

Um, our last speaker of the day, I believe, is gonna be Shelly.

Welcome.

Um, Shelly, before you start, I'm just gonna offer one more reminder.

I know some folks have come in since we uh opened the public hearing, but if you are someone who would like to offer testimony today, please see uh the clerks right over here at the end of uh the the dais um and and you can get signed up.

Um I'm so sorry, go ahead.

Thanks, Councilmember.

Um I'm Shelley Stein.

I'm the director of Rock Minnesota.

We're a worker center uh that has been here for 10 years in Minneapolis working to improve the uh conditions for workers in the food service and restaurant industry.

Um, I'm here because once again, the mayor has cut the budget to co-enforcement.

Um, despite its proven effectiveness over the past few years in the city.

Um me and my staff every day talk to restaurant and food service workers who still don't know that they have the right to sick time, uh, to protections from wage theft, uh, even at times to the minimum wage.

Um, yesterday I was in a cafe with a worker who started working in restaurants when she was 15.

She's worked in the city for almost 20 years, and she did not know she had sick and safe time paid.

Um, and that's just sort of the tip of the iceberg.

She also talked about working off the clock regularly as a normalized practice in our industry.

These are things that workers, even who have been in the city who she's studying to be a paralegal, y'all.

Like it's not like she's ignorant of what's going on in the city and she still doesn't know her rights.

Um this budget that the mayor consistently cuts year after year that we come back year after year to advocate for, that many of you have passed ongoing funding for, uh, is crucial to workers being protected.

And when it comes to law enforcement, it's a double standard where the law enforcement budget in this city uh for uh owning class people is enforced with a lion's share of the budget while our budget is being cut and is already minuscule.

I'm actually hoping to come here to advocate that you all raise the budget this year, and right now I'm actually just asking that you reinstate the budget that we passed last year together as ongoing funding.

Um I had a bunch of other comments, but I'm just gonna leave it there and ask that you as um folks that really care about working people in the city reinstate uh the full budget and consider increasing it in ongoing years.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Shelley, uh, you are you are very welcome to um submit the remainder of your comments um to the clerks or or do that later and submit those online.

That goes for everyone.

Um with that, we've we've reached the end of our registered speakers so far.

Yep.

Um is there anyone who is here who is wishing to speak or offer testimony today.

I'm gonna wait for 10 whole seconds.

We're gonna sit in silence.

Okay, I think we can sufficiently say that there's no one um else who is um wishing to speak today.

So with that, I will close this public hearing.

I will remind everyone that we will have our second public hearing on Monday, October 6th at 1 30 p.m.

in these chambers.

I want to sincerely thank everyone who participated in this hearing today and everyone who spoke or submitted comments.

We appreciate your engagement in this important work that helps move our community forward.

I want to sincerely thank the interpreters that are here today, helping make sure that our um our neighbors are able to offer us their testimony as well, and it's really difficult work, I know.

Um, so with that, we have concluded all business to come before the committee today.

Um, I will remind my colleagues that our next budget committee meeting will be on Monday, September 22nd at 10 a.m., where we will be receiving presentations from the Intergovernmental Relations Convention Center and Downtown Assets, and Office of Community Safety Departments.

All three of those presentations are available for your review right now in LIMS.

Um, so if there is no objection, we stand adjourned.

Thank you, everyone.