0:02December 31st, 9 p.m.
0:06on government street.
0:09March the 28th from 10 a.m.
0:15October the 11th from 7 p.m.
0:23Way in the issues, uh Carol.
0:25Actually, in district four.
0:28So in the issues, Carol Penn and Reynolds.
0:33Public hearing today.
0:34It's a public hearing to declare the structures at 1109 Adams Street, 313 Calhoun Street, 1205 Gent Street, 1966, Halls Mill Road.
0:48Public nuisances and ordering them demolish.
0:51It's also the public hearing to fix costs for demolition of structures at 33 East I-65 Service Road, 1720 Northview Drive.
1:02And 1220 Satchel Street.
1:07Presentation of petitions and other communications to the council.
1:19Lindsay Blank and Ship provide the schedule of events for um dedicated dentist day.
1:24Sabrina May asked concerns in the community about the elections process.
1:41And the questions are coming in away.
1:43That's gonna go to the committee this afternoon.
1:57I think it's helpful to have the committee meetings.
2:01So you have some questions.
2:03Yeah, I mean, it's just 10-page ordinance.
2:05I mean, it's something we should probably discuss, make sure we get it just right.
2:07Yeah, that sort of thing.
2:11Yeah, but definitely it's held over till today.
2:14So no, classical was first rate.
2:16So that would be nice and we need to later this week.
2:24Uh question did uh anybody come up with a solid and solid answer to uh equal justice across the city.
2:37So I'm sorry if I did not make this abundantly clear last week.
2:43Like it's that's not it's a good question, but that is not a legal issue.
2:50One is you all as the government authority do have the power to designate areas one way or another, not dissimilar from this historic districts or the layovers that you deal with or the DDD.
3:03And in doing so through an ordinance, that's why we're doing so through an ordinance.
3:07You all have the power to do so.
3:09Um, not dissimilar from how you all designated an entertainment district.
3:13As long as you're in the confines of the 1.5 mile radius, you know, per entertainment district, you can do that.
3:20So you operate within the confines of the law.
3:23Um, and then the second part of it is when you talk about whether or not you have some disparate impact or disparate treatment, you're not talking about you know, race, color, um, gender, ethnicity, disability, religion, or any of those things.
3:39This ordinance doesn't deal with any of those areas, and it doesn't discriminate on those grounds.
3:43And so you're applying it equally across the board.
3:47Well, it's not race, gender, creed, color, or anything like that.
3:50And then the entertainment district, it's a bonus, it's not a fine, and we're not finding anyone.
3:56So with this ordinance, we're finding someone for having a vacant building, but we don't do that in entertainment distance district.
4:04But the question again when it comes to equal justice, I mean, it may not be the people as you described it, but the equal justice comes within property owner rights and property owners, because you have property owners outside this district, we have property owners inside the district.
4:18So the question is is how do you dispel the myth of equal justice under the law between the property owners?
4:24And we can talk about that during this afternoon's meeting.
4:27You know, like I told y'all before, we have to do something, and and was before we tried this before if we fell flat on our faces.
4:35But there's blight all over the city, and there's some places in the city that can benefit from this even more so than downtown.
4:44So why is it that we're segregating downtown?
4:49That's all let's talk about more uh one o'clock.
4:52I think those are some of the questions that other people have, but like I said, we've been down this road once before, maybe 12 years ago.
5:00No, take that back a little bit longer than that.
5:03A long time ago, I just don't want to see it fall with with those things in mind, and certain people coming down here, you know, raising the bill when they don't need to.
5:15I fully understand who those certain people are.
5:18All right, Madam Clerk.
5:2164047 and 64048 are considering modifications to previously approved planning approval and um puts at 3610 and 3720 Michael Boulevard.
5:37CIP resolutions held over 081161 approved purchase order to Gray Bar Electric for street light polls on St.
5:49Resolution's held over 01120, authorized revised solid waste disposal authority, landfill accounting agreement.
5:5921,1149 authorized contract with Port City Transit for services to operate cities transit system.
6:14Um, I want to commend administration and via for um on last week working and um with the request that I have made.
6:24Um I have received the amendments.
6:26Um hopefully all my colleagues have received it, um, are okay with the amendments that have been presented.
6:33Um and I look forward on moving forward today.
6:37Yeah, they all they all look good.
6:40I wasn't clear on um, I wasn't clear on how the uh lead time was transferring.
6:47Are we paying out the leave time or are we just we are we're gonna pay out the leave time and they just have to uh uh it has to what's sort of reaccrued for them to get it has to approve for them to gain lead time under the new system?
7:05I was just gonna make note of the amendments and make sure that everybody was fine with that.
7:09And um, I guess we would just need to offer up the amendments to the contract when it comes to 10 30 and 1030, I guess.
7:15I just want to make sure everybody's fine with that and um just remind you right the amendments I think are in front of you.
7:20So question the employees and the transit system seemed to shut.
7:25It's my understanding they have, yes, sir.
7:29The employees are unions.
7:31Well, union employees are all the same.
7:34It's my understanding all because some of the employees, although they're union eligible, are not all union members.
7:38So it's my understanding that all of those employees have had those conversations or made been made the presentations.
7:43So everybody's amenable.
7:45I can't speak to whether everyone's amenable.
7:47I think that was a question that came about.
7:49Um my suspicion is everyone is not amenable.
7:52Who everyone is, I'm not sure, but again, that's a part of the process.
7:57So most of them are happy with what we've done.
8:00It's my understanding that is correct.
8:06All right, thank you, Ms.
8:0901162 authorized amended loan agreement with James W.
8:13Buffett Declaration of Trust 1990 01163, authorized easement agreement with 195 LLC for private road and Logan Cottages.
8:33Consider adoption of the 2025 2026 general fund and capital improvement fund budgets.
8:40Days, I'd like to ask Mr.
8:43Uh, we we received uh from Mr.
8:45Collins some a few suggested amendments to the budget that the administration uh proposes, and I'd uh asked uh Mr.
8:55Collins to come forward and just step through those for us.
8:58Um these are the net result of these are their budget neutral.
9:02Um we did have to make some changes we recognized over the the last couple of weeks or some things we needed to just simply correct, and they're relatively minor.
9:10Uh, the first um is to decrease transfers out to grants from 28,750 to zero.
9:16That transfer actually doesn't take place, it's a budgetary um item that's been in place for the last couple of years, but that all stays in the general fund, so that doesn't have to be transferred out.
9:25Those dollars would remain that way we can reduce that to zero.
9:28Decrease the visit mobile allocation by 219,658 dollars from 4,914,000 to 4,694,342.
9:39Had conversations with visit mobile about this, and obviously pursuant to their contract, we pay them on prior year collections.
9:48We believe that this budget, and that it was actually Mr.
9:51Clark that brought this brought this to our attention.
9:53We believe that the 4 million 914 is a little over budget for the year.
9:56So we're able to see some savings there.
10:00We reduced that down by that 219,000.
10:02Um within some of our operational departments, we realized we need to make some some changes to their operations.
10:08The first was the permitting division in Bill Mobile.
10:11Um from operate, there were some operational expenses we needed to adjust there by 17,800 from 14,350 to 32,150.
10:22Um also within uh Bill Mobile in the planning zoning division, an increase in operational expenses by 37,350 from 56,600 to 93,950.
10:35And lastly, in the personnel uh expenses line item for the municipal enforcement division and increase by 193,800 from 1,742,451 to 1,936,251.
10:50Um, the most of those were all salaries and the transition of personnel to increase municipal enforcement.
10:56There was just a a somewhere got lost in translation in our numbers to add those that personnel to municipal enforcement.
11:03We simply added those there.
11:04So if you take all the pluses and minuses, it becomes a net zero.
11:08Um, but um, those are the the changes that we're proposing and requesting for the budget.
11:14Do any of the members have any question?
11:16Any council people have any questions for Mr.
11:19I don't have any questions for him, but it when these amendments are offered, can they just be offered as amendments one through six?
11:24Yeah, I'll offer them.
11:26So yeah, there's been some question as to the ordinance.
11:32Um the ordinance to to the register ordinance downtown and management of that register ordinance downtown.
11:43Uh looked through the budget last night, and I didn't see where we put any monies in for uh additional peoples or department that's supposed to manage that, or any of these transfers going into these departments to offset those positions to manage the uh vacant property register and to keep up with the properties and all that stuff.
12:08So all of this will be through municipal enforcement, every one of these positions go there.
12:11So they will all fall under David Davenbach.
12:14So some of this money is going towards I'm just asking to fill those positions that'll be needed to manage those vacant properties.
12:23Yes, yes, sir, that's correct.
12:24So that's how we're covering it.
12:26That's how we're that's how we're filling the staffing for those for those needed positions, yes, sir.
12:32Yeah, so so that was a question that that I've heard as well.
12:36Um, how are we going to enforce do we have the staffing to do that?
12:42Because it's something on top of what we're already doing.
12:45Um, so so that was a question, and then also the the funding.
12:49How is that set up and how was that handled?
12:52You know, who does all of that?
12:54I mean, you know, those are just some questions about the vacant property registry, but since we're talking about transferring money to municipal enforcement, you know.
13:04So specific to that, and Jamie can answer to the operations of that to the specific staffing.
13:09There were some positions that were assigned to other divisions that were not municipal enforcement.
13:13Um, I believe those have been in public services before, those moved to municipal enforcement.
13:17And the council also last year requested that we add two positions to municipal enforcement, and those are included in the 1930.
13:24Um, so the staffing will be there to do that work.
13:26Reynolds can speak to the specifics of how they'll accomplish that task.
13:30I mean, Roberts, I'm sorry.
13:33Yeah, so the the existing staff is gonna take on the administration of that.
13:37The uh the fees associated with the ordinance will be offsetting some of that to see if we can get additional staff also.
13:43Yeah, because you know, we want to make sure that um the folks who are working municipal enforcement right now are not pulled off what they're already doing to to do this extra deer.
13:54Right, which is which is actually one of the reasons for looking at downtown only, because if we took on citywide, there wouldn't be enough people.
14:00Yeah, well, obviously not, not with the staffing that we have now.
14:05You said that the existing staff would handle this.
14:08Yeah, we had a transfer from public services of additional staff, uh, primarily looking at uh uh littering the right of way.
14:15So we're gonna add to some of what they do and modify that a little bit.
14:19Along with everything that they're already doing that everybody's already telling us that we're way behind on and on top of the yeah, and uh we've got two additional also.
14:29So we're hiring two additional two.
14:31Uh they're in the works of being hired.
14:33Uh you've been trained, one of them, I think that they got a big vacant spot.
14:36Yeah, one vacant one training.
14:41Now, those are the only uh amendments that I'm aware of.
14:44So I hope we can go ahead and uh pass those amendments and then uh pass the budget today.
15:00I will I would like to say I'm glad to see those um amendments, especially with the Melissum enforcement, because um I had a separate conversation with the mayor, and that's one thing that we are feeling at, you know, in the city, especially in in my district, is just enforcement.
15:10You know, we have some new houses that's going up in district three, and right next door is a you know a piece of property that you know I won't pay no 200,000 dollars to stay next door to.
15:20So hopefully that this one will be a great improvement you know throughout the whole city, and I'm glad to you know to see this amendment.
15:26Okay, clerk zero nine zero nine, eleven seventy authorized amendments, reallocations, appropriations, and transfers to the the school year 2025 general fund budget for port security grant funds consent resolutions being introduced 031180, reappoint Hunter Whitten to the Citizens Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee.
15:5903 1181 reappoint Jessica Fairley, um P Ann Forbes, John Resnick Rosik Ruzick to the Mobile Historic Development Commission 401182 through 1188 are declaring structures um public nuisances and ordering them demolish and fixing costs to secure on andor demolish structures 461189 1190 uh honorarily rename Collins Avenue to honorary Douglas and Mary Banks way and Esau Avenue to honorary James Pedway Avenue.
16:43President, yeah, Mr.
16:45Jay's there's a councilman Ken is gonna be following in the step footsteps of our late councilman Manzi.
16:52And uh we're gonna have a lot of streets renamed honorarily in district one.
17:00Thank you, Joe, for reminding me every time you see this on the agenda.
17:07601191 approval order special bonus to the firefighter of the month, 461207 honorarily renamed the intersection of Jones Avenue and Carlton Avenue to honorary Woodrow and Nettie Curtis Avenue.
17:24My mom been living on Junior Garbage for 70 years.
17:27Can't she get her street renamed after her?
17:29You're doing more honorable than renamed one day than I did in 12 years.
17:34Look, I just recognize the people in my if they ask all you gotta do is file an application, Mr.
17:40You know the guidelines.
17:45CIP resolutions introduced 2112 authorized contract with Iker Construction Corporation for splash pad at Crawford Murphy Park, 394,000.
17:58Resolutions being introduced.
18:24081195 approved purchase order to emergency equipment professional for engine overhaul for fire pump and truck 23,717 and 92 cents.
18:35081196, approved purchase order to Moran architecture for design bid and bill professional services for Cooper Riverside Park Restroom Enhancements 20,000.
18:49081197 approved purchase order to ransom cleaning services for power washing of cruise terminal 24,550.
18:58081198, approved purchase order to technical and scientific so 081198 and 1199 approving purchase artists, technical and scientific application for 16 laptop computers, 16,880 and 32 cents, and for desktop computer computers for 22,672 and 47 cents.
19:38091201 transfer funds from Langham Park Dredging to G12 MC WAT for the Three Mile Creek Watershed Restoration Project 45,563.
19:53Yeah, is uh is Jen here?
19:55I guess it's gonna get her to explain what all this is.
20:04This is the difference between our grants and the contract amount.
20:07So we're just transferring some of our capital into the grant account to make the contract amount whole.
20:12And that should be starting next week.
20:15The actual dredging.
20:18Well, that's that's a way to announce things, Jim.
20:24Jen, I know this doesn't have anything to do with this particular um, but we've been receiving calls on the three mile creek about the no cut zone.
20:33Um, is it a reason why it's no cutting now in particular areas of three mile creek?
20:38Um, just seeing as people can't view the creek now.
20:43Not sure where that is.
20:47Um, in the past they cut in that particular area, but now they air they can't see.
20:53So there's an area I think we inhabited they called the the Pill Hill area, uh, in which was a floodplain and all the houses that have since been removed.
21:03And you're right, we were cutting that property, and it was um I can't remember how many acres, but it's very large.
21:08Uh, but we were cutting it in perpetuity, um, with no intention of building any structures on it.
21:14And so what we did was get with forestry, and I believe what you see happening now is that long leaf pines have now been planted in that area.
21:21It'll take a while before it overtakes it, but it's to return that property back to a natural state.
21:27Is this the area uh just to the west of Stanley Road?
21:33Yeah, I believe it is west along Three Mile Creek.
21:36That's that's in it.
21:37Yeah, that's that's Turner Lewis, right?
21:39It's a long that's Turner Lewis, and Turner Lewis was given over to the city after Frederick in 79 after its second flood major flood.
21:51Uh, but the city, it was supposed to be a park over there after it was given back over to the city with clear-cut grass all the time.
21:59I remember as a kid going to that recognition after it was done, all those houses were lost over there.
22:07It's one of the what was one of the strongest predominant minority neighborhoods in the in the city.
22:14Yeah, it's Ternal Lewis, it's right there across right there at the bridge.
22:19Yeah, that's right there at the bridge.
22:21So when in my mind, yeah, right.
22:26It's the road that covers around.
22:27Yeah, that's the yeah, yeah.
22:28In my mind, when you say return back to the natural state, there's so many lots in the city.
22:33That means that we have uh we can only run a brush cutter through there, and the grass could be or or the shrubs can be two, four, six foot tall at when it's in natural state.
22:45Is that something that we want to do?
22:47I mean, I think there's going to be some growing pains to it.
22:50I mean, you can't run a brush cutter through it right now because you take out all the long leaf pines that have been planted, and so we've got to let them mature to a level that where we can cut around them, and eventually it will be more woodland than anything else.
23:02But it's not just there, it was passed by city ordinance um to allow for conditions to return back to a natural state, and it really came out of a an issue from a private citizen who was having to cut a property down in the bottoms in perpetuity with no intention of ever building on it.
23:19And when they raised that issue, we realized that we needed to come up with a program to return a lot that's not going to be used back to a natural state.
23:28That's what you see happening.
23:29There's indigenous trees planted approved by forestry to do exactly that.
23:33But there is an awkward period to where brushes growing at the same time the trees until the tree canopy can uh overtake the brush.
23:40We're but we're doing that all down the creek, not just in that area, it's going all the way down the creek where it's blocking views or where um Trocetania Park on that side of the creek as well, where the acres.
23:54I mean, we can is blocking the views now all the way down the creek.
23:59I mean, we need to kind of talk about that.
24:01I'm requesting that we kind of look at that.
24:03Um, I mean, it's people who really enjoy the lake, the views, the creek, and we need to kind of really have that discussion.
24:11Um, people really purchase homes to enjoy that view, and now it wasn't any discussion.
24:18And and now we're looking at you know, returning that and you know, to doing something without even having any discussion with the community.
24:27So I'm requesting that we kind of just have some discussion, have some information um with the community and figure out what the plan is going forward because we just didn't know anything about I didn't know anything about okay.
24:40We'll be glad to get you that.
24:41And also, I'll get you the um the exact acreage of that area, but um again, it was a a lot of cutting that we had to do every year multiple times.
24:49Okay, and and and I also request like how far, because the particular area with Joe and um Councilman Carroll and um Councilman Dave was speaking about that was the Levert area, but it's going all the way down the creek.
25:03So I need to know how how far.
25:05I mean, are we going down crossing MLK or I mean how far we don't are we doing the whole three mile creek?
25:14Let me get it mapped and get the acreage so that y'all can see what we're talking about.
25:18Yeah, on my side, we're already at a natural state in some places that are pretty high and pretty thick.
25:23So I don't think they're talking about coming that far.
25:3213 13 1202, authorized change order number one with wire grass construction for Western Bayfront resurfacing, 1 million 56, 860 dollars and 25 cents increase.
25:47Where does this additional one million dollars for resurfacing coming from?
25:55Um the original contract, what was that being paid for with that one?
26:03Yeah, that was paid for C D BG eligible census tracks on a citywide infrastructure program.
26:10How do how does one uh get the attention of another tune of a million dollars of gas tax money in their particular area?
26:19Yeah, just get in line for I mean I think the way this worked was they they identified that they're going to resurface an area and then they get in there and say, Oh, well, might as well do these other side streets or whatever, or they need to be done for safety reasons, whatever else.
26:38And um, anyways, I I could use a million dollars in district four to expand on our current contracts.
26:45Yeah, so for the last probably 12 or 15 years, the gas tax has been used to prop up either the MPO grants, you know, the out that big out money's coming in helping with the matches, or pay as you go projects.
26:57In this case, this some of this area was adjacent to some of it was in, some of it was out of the uh of the CDBG census track eligible funding that was the city capital, and there's potentially some reconfigurations of these of these interstate interchanges that may weigh into us.
27:15So, what this change order is doing, it's taking care of resurfacing Claiborne Street, canal, the balance of water street, Monroe Street, basically all of these streets that kind of just wrap around this greater interchange right outside the window here to try to try to clean it up.
27:30One to get us through any any construction that out will be doing to get you know fresh streets in front of the uh uh core engineers building, the cruise terminal, the Amtrak, all of there in front of Fort Conde.
27:43And this that was the one funding source that's that's clean that can prop these types of projects up.
27:49So that was the reason we we chose to go that way.
27:51How much is the gas tax uh generating annually for the city?
27:54I think it's a little over a million dollars.
27:56So a hundred percent of the gas tax for a single year.
28:00Yeah, it's not that much.
28:01Okay, and is can TIFF money from downtown TIFF can it be used for resurfacing roads?
28:08But potentially could, but it's generally it's generally shy away from from that for the most part.
28:13Yeah, the reason I bring it up is I I'm spending uh all of our CIP money in district four on resurfacing roads, so it sort of puts us at a somewhat of a disadvantage where we can't spend our CIP money on some of these shiny nice things, you know, that happened and we're spending it all on resurfacing, and if and if we were able to say get some of this money, I'm sure other districts as well to spend in their districts, it sort of frees up a little additional money where we can put it into something like a park or a ditch or something.
28:42Well, we'll know that probably every district has received that gas tax in some way, shape, or form or other because again, it's propped up the page go programs most of the time.
28:50If there's overruns real, you know, realized or unrealized, that's typically where we're going to prop that, prop those programs up, and then those big MPO projects have got you know, they all of a sudden they have a half a million or million dollar you know effort.
29:04I mean, it's what rebuilt roads within Brooklyn, it that's where we started uh using the gas taxes to support that, support those big grant funded projects, and uh and without it, we would be coming to the to the CIP to ask those to support it.
29:16So I know it's being it's being spread around.
29:19I mean, it just is Councilman Woods and I, you know, we we have we have identified our um resurfacing projects for 26 pretty significant uh portion of money, but then this snag on knollwood between cottage hill and greel lot came up where that's sort of the main corridor that we typically rely on pay as you go to handle it.
29:39Well, we had to sort of reprioritize money to put into those main thoroughfare that main thoroughfare instead of actually putting it in resurfacing roads.
29:48So if if there was a way or there was uh gas tax money or some other funding source that was available to take care of that main thoroughfare, you know, we could we could certainly resurface additional roads.
30:00I mean, that's certainly our priority.
30:02You know, as I've said to y'all many times, and I think collectively the council administration's been successful in getting more of the pay as you go to come back into the city.
30:11I would just encourage that conversation to keep going with them to request more and to convince them that they need to be in putting more of that page go program back into the city.
30:21And it has grown tremendously.
30:22I think this last program, uh, I know at least on the resurfacing side of it was I think 13 or 15, 13, 14 million dollars.
30:30Um, so but it but it needs to be more, unfortunately.
30:33We're we're uh we are a big city with a lot of streets, and it requires a lot of resurfacing, you know, each and every year to stay on stay on top of it.
30:41This is just one of those things that came up where it's like we can't wait to the next phase you go cycle to get it done, you know.
30:48And it would be nice if there were some uh additional opportunity for us to get that done rather than dipping into you know, because we're only doing these resurfacing contracts every other year, you know.
31:00But you're doing pay as you go, I mean every year you're you're dropping that amount.
31:04That's somewhere between 50.
31:07So then it has to go out of CIP.
31:08So I you know, I just I know we spend a lot of money down here, and there's a lot of money that needs to be spent down here, but you know, that that it's just important that we don't forget that there are fill-in projects throughout the district as well, uh throughout the city as well that you know could certainly take advantage of this.
31:25Not advocating against it.
31:27I just you know we spend a lot of money down here.
31:31But got a lot of roads.
31:32I mean, it's uh you know, selfishly I'd like council to put all four million dollars into resurfacing and just do that.
31:38I mean, that's I think that's about what councilman Woods and I are doing.
31:41You know, what I'm saying is we're we're putting all of our money into resurfacing, but because we do that, we we don't get necessarily the the other you know chunks of money going into our district.
31:53So, you know, it makes us yeah, kind of puts us at a disadvantage.
31:57Resurfacing is one of those shiny projects.
31:58Everybody seems to like those.
31:59They generalized a lot of happy, happy uh constituents, Mr.
32:05Uh Nick What percent of the county's paygo funds are we current is current currently being used in the City Mobile.
32:18I know we we analyzed it one time, and I I believe that we generate about 45%, somewhere between 40 and 45 percent of the counties revenue of the of the funds of that program.
32:30Uh we've historically just not gotten that amount and we've it's increased dramatically.
32:34A lot of times um they have paid for through the with the page go program the matches or at least part of the matches for all the federal aid projects.
32:44And then if you really back up, you know, 15 or 20 years, a lot of the roads that have been annexed in or were that were widened, you know, were done with the pay as you go program and maybe the county paid for the match, maybe the city paid for the match, but they today those streets are effectively in the city.
33:00So Greelite Road, Hill Crest, uh, you know, old Cottage Hill, Old Shell Road, there's a bunch of those roads uh out west that have been widened that that have that have benefited from the payge go program.
33:12Yeah, I just I just think and I've thought this for the last 12 years.
33:15I just think there are some times when it's forgotten that the citizens of the city and mobile provide 45% of the county's revenue.
33:2545% of the county's revenue is provided by the citizens of the city mobile, and we ought to get our fair share.
33:4021 1203 authorized contract with James H.
33:44Adams and Suns Construction Company for the repair and stabilization of a Zalea City Golf Course in 12 Mile Creek, 642,444.
33:55Yeah, matter of facts.
33:56Since Jen is still here, can you uh talk about the stabilization project of the golf course and why it came about?
34:06This is another project where we're looking at what the sources of sedimentation into Langan Lake are.
34:12Uh my department's been looking at this for the last couple of years.
34:15After we fixed 12 Mile Creek, we noticed that sand was entering the creek, causing more issues and filling the basin back up.
34:22We identified the golf course and the eroding edge of that as part of the problem, and this will fully address that.
34:29And then while you're here, um for folks who don't know, can you just talk a little bit about all the um improvements that have been done at the golf course that may not be necessarily your department, but you've been out there.
34:42I cannot speak to that.
34:44I'm sorry, that would be Kim.
34:46She's here today, but I know that they've done a lot of work.
34:49Um, and this will be on the lower holes and the golf course will remain open while we're doing this project.
34:54We've got a plan, and we've been working very closely with Brian Aaron, the golf course superintendent to get that done carefully with with golfers at play.
35:02If you haven't been to the golf course lately, a lot of landscaping has been done out there, and it looks 100% better.
35:09And hopefully putting all of that out there will also help decrease some of that uh runoff.
35:14Yeah, it's gonna make a big difference in the lower holes.
35:17So yeah, okay, great.
35:20Uh Jim, one more question.
35:22Uh we talked about this today that had the kayaks out there, and Robert was on overwatch for uh the the lake there and everything.
35:29Um, this is that uh there was like one little channel.
35:32Um, this is that kind of starting to address that one little channel.
35:35Um, maybe is this the one that kind of feeds back to the the ponds or the lakes in the south, and you know, ultimately kind of come down.
35:41That's a separate that is that's actually Three Mile Creek, the headwaters of Three Mile Creek.
35:46This is addressing the sedimentation coming into 12 Mile Creek, which crosses under under Museum Drive.
35:53There is some work going on that South Alabama is doing with Mobile Bay NEP to look at how to address those issues that are happening there, which is also a source of sedimentation into the lake.
36:03So this is kind of the landfare that that type of water runoff that we kind of um that we looked at, I guess that day.
36:11Yeah, but this is coming down off of you know, 12 Mile Creek runs from East Drive all the way down.
36:16We've done a major restoration project in there, which is phase one and phase two of uh Three Mile Creek restoration project, which the last phase is the dredging.
36:25But anytime you fix things, of course, you notice where the issues are, but we're just working really hard to identify those things to make sure we're addressing those issues and having routine maintenance, like we'll maintain the basin at the end of this project to dredge it back out again because it's it's serving its purpose, it's holding the sand that's coming down and it didn't go into the lake, so we're continually do that working with public services in my department to get that done.
36:50I have a question about this one.
36:52This is on them, this gotta be that spot on number 11 just past the T-box there that it erodes away.
36:57I think a few years ago, city came in and put in some rocks, riprap, whatever through there, and I guess it's not, it's just still getting through.
37:03What what all what is actually happening?
37:04Are they putting concrete in, building a retaining wall?
37:07So there's I do know.
37:09Yes, I we designed it.
37:11Um we're addressing the entire hill.
37:15So all of the drainage features that go through all those holes are being completely renovated.
37:20So right now they're great inlets, but those don't work.
37:23Water sheets right over it, it gets covered with debris, so we're gonna turn them into a different kind of inlet.
37:28The water can go into much easier.
37:30They're gonna be recessed so it actually controls the water and pulls it in and brings it into the drainage feature instead of going down the golf course.
37:38That's where all the sand is coming from, going into the sand traps, coming down the hill, and then we're gonna stabilize the entire hill going down into 12 mile because that is sand.
37:49There's a ton of erosion back in there that you can't see.
37:52They did attempt to stabilize it, but it wasn't the right technique, and so it didn't work.
37:56So we're gonna completely address that.
37:58We're also creating a berm at the top that's gonna move the water where it needs to go into the drainage features, and the golf course is gonna have a routine maintenance plan that they can follow to maintain what we're doing.
38:09So it'll be a huge improvement.
38:11That's good to hear.
38:12I that you know, a Z City Golf course.
38:14I don't know when the last time it was renovated, but it's got competition now in the market.
38:19And I think it's it's a good opportunity for us as the new uh county golf course comes online to really consider a major renovation to that golf course.
38:31It's probably I don't know, 20 years overdue for a renovation.
38:35And if you want to continue to sell rounds and you want it to be successful, you gotta do a renovation.
38:41I think it's time we do a major one.
38:42So I hope you know, administratively and us as a council can start figuring out a way to start setting aside some money in a capital account to to plan for that big renovation, it'd be an opportune time where when the county's course comes on board.
38:57You still have a public outlet to play golf on brand new facility that if we went down, you know, there'd still be a good outlet for golf.
39:04So it was just a suggestion for future years for future mayors and future councils.
39:11All right, thank you.
39:19I mean Katan I mean it's certificate of public convenience and necessity.
39:23Call for public hearings 41 1205 call for public hearing to consider the proposed conditional use permit for property located at 2316 Hillwood Drive West schedule October 21st.
39:3541 1206 call for public hearing to consider the modification of a previously approved plan unit development for property located at 550 Providence Park Drive East, scheduled October 21st.
39:50Announcements council meeting next week on Tuesday 923 will be held on Wednesday 924.
39:58Is I will be otherwise occupied.
40:02So anything from this council.
40:10Okay, let's look at resolutions 08, 1193, 1194, 1195, 1196, 1197, 1198, 1199, and 1201 to waive the rules.
40:30Any others we need to look at?
40:34Anyone else on this council?
40:37Anything from administration?
40:45We'll see each other at 1030 downstairs.