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Mobile City Council Pre-Meeting Summary - July 28, 2026

City Council MeetingsTuesday, July 28, 2026
BodyMobile, Alabama
SessionCity Council Meetings
DateTuesday, July 28, 2026
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0:00

Good morning.

0:02

CJ is uh out right now, but he will be back for our regular meeting coming up at 10 30.

0:08

Lisa.

0:09

This is the pre-meeting of the Mobile City Council Tuesday, July 28th.

0:13

We have approval of minutes from July 21st.

0:16

Any questions, concerns?

0:18

Okay.

0:20

Appeals, we have requests for way of the noise ordinance on August the 19th from 5 p.m.

0:25

until 10 p.m.

0:26

on Airport Boulevard.

0:29

August the 15th from 6 30 to 10 on Pine Pine Run Road.

0:37

September 6th from 12 30 p.m.

0:39

to 4 30 in Langham Park.

0:41

Okay.

0:42

Ms.

0:42

Wash here.

0:43

Uh Madam Vice President.

0:44

Councilwoman Ingram.

0:45

If we could change that from nine uh 10 p.m.

0:48

to 9 p.m.

0:49

please.

0:49

Okay.

0:51

Josh.

0:52

Um I'm gonna deny the one in my district.

0:54

Deny this one.

0:55

Yes, it's in the middle of a neighborhood.

0:56

I drove this week.

0:57

It's not conducive to a wild party.

1:02

Okay.

1:04

All right.

1:06

Public hearing today.

1:07

It's a public hearing to declare the structure at 1307.

1:10

We'll lay in a public nuisance and order it demolished.

1:14

Okay, we'll hear that public hearing and CJ will be here for the regular meeting.

1:18

Presentation of petitions and other communications to the council.

1:21

Vandal and Pierre provide updates on the Mobile City County Youth Council.

1:25

Timothy Hollis request that uh Tomaville be recognized as a historic district.

1:30

Ordinances held over 64032.

1:33

Consider the proposed rezoning of property located at 7271 Greelight Road from R1 to B1.

1:38

Councilman Woods, yeah.

1:40

Um I'm uh I'm not in favor of this one.

1:42

Uh you know, at the moment, this is uh to what I can see is it's speculative zoning.

1:47

Um, you know, there's not a plan for for the property.

1:50

Uh the B1 is just arbitrary at the moment.

1:53

So it's just my my intention to vote it out.

1:55

I'll I'll let y'all vote however you need to or however you want you wish, but I'm I'm gonna vote to tonight.

2:01

Okay, any other questions?

2:04

Okay.

2:05

Resolution is held over 0870, approved purchase order to sunbelt fire for fire boots and helmets.

2:12

0973 transfer funds from general fund athletic aquatics to Capital Account Africa Town Welcome Center.

2:20

0974, authorized one-time lump sum payment to RSA City of Mobile Retirees under the provisions of section two of Act 608 of the regular session 2177, authorized contractor by construction corporation for installation of new playground equipment at left at Labretta Park Playground Court.

2:46

Um have one question.

2:47

I don't know if Carlene or Shonda or somebody any idea when uh we expect the work on this to begin.

2:53

I know after school starts back, but do we have like an ETA on what you're looking at?

3:00

The reason I ask is because I've been talking with some of the community members about doing some sort of you know, we really can't do a uh groundbreaking necessarily, but we could be our version of a groundbreaking, some sort of a celebration um since this has been there well over 20 years, and the community really drove the the spearheaded the effort rather when uh when this park or the playground was put in.

3:24

So just trying to get an idea when we might expect work.

3:27

Yes, ma'am.

3:28

We uh we'll start in September.

3:30

Sometime in September, yes, ma'am.

3:33

Okay.

3:34

Okay.

3:35

Yes, after school starts, um, end of August, early September.

3:40

And I did get the message about doing a last play date, yeah, yeah.

3:44

Activity, maybe on a Saturday morning um for the community.

3:48

Okay.

3:48

Um we'll get it together with with Parks and Rec and the community and see what you know we can come up with so that we can coordinate on the time for all of this to really get going.

3:57

Because if we do it on a Saturday morning, then if y'all start on Monday, you know, that'd be great.

4:02

Or something, something like that.

4:03

And we're also uh removing the hand prints and trying to keep what salvage is still yes, because one of the things that I was talking to the residents about the other night was that there are some adults, you know, well into their 20s and older who were part of that, and their handprints are in those bricks, and now they've got kids and they would like to do a handprint, you know, to go with and and there is some interest in doing another uh drive to do these hand prints on the bricks as a little fundraiser kind of a thing.

4:35

Sure.

4:36

Okay, all right.

4:37

We'll we'll coordinate.

4:38

Okay, thank you.

4:41

21 2178 authorized professional service contract with Minnecan Resources Incorporated to provide governance review and improve mint consulting services.

4:53

Madam Vice President, yes, sir.

4:54

I'd ask that we hold this at least one week.

4:59

I've got some additional questions.

5:00

I'd like to see the previous product that was produced in the last contract.

5:04

So if somebody could help us with that between now and then, that'd be great.

5:09

Thank you.

5:10

Okay.

5:10

Madam Vice President.

5:11

Yes, sir, Mr.

5:12

Penn.

5:12

Um, do we know what boards um they'll be looking at?

5:16

Yes.

5:17

It doesn't say in the contract.

5:18

Yeah, that's why I'm yeah, we can make it say that.

5:21

Yeah.

5:22

Well, I'm I'm I'm asking the administration right now.

5:24

Is it any boards right now that they uh are asking for?

5:28

Yeah, uh there hasn't been a decision made about that, but I mean that's how it's worked in the past as we've routinely engaged her for the past several years, and there's been a decision made as to which boards uh kind of the highest need.

5:41

Um so that's what we anticipate we'll be doing here.

5:43

Yeah, it seems like when we did this before, we went down the list and decided which ones we wanted them to look at.

5:50

Yeah, we're we're happy to hear your thoughts on that.

5:52

Okay.

5:53

Madam Vice President, yes, ma'am.

5:55

On that same topic, um, if you notice, and again, I I I applaud the fact that we are you know implementing these continuous improvement tools and and processes.

6:04

But if you notice in the um scope of work, it states that they provided um best practices uh previously in terms of um the the direction the boards need to go in.

6:18

If we could have that information also, it would be greatly appreciated from the last review.

6:27

Yeah, I believe some of the information was provided um this morning, but we can certainly look back if there's any additional information you need right now.

6:34

Yeah, that's right.

6:35

Okay, I got it this morning, so I think uh layover would definitely help.

6:39

Thank you.

6:39

Certainly.

6:40

Okay, anybody else?

6:43

Okay.

6:45

21779, authorized contract with USS Alabama Battleship Commission doing business as US Alabama Battleship Memorial Park for replacement of TIC deck on battleship USS Alabama.

6:59

21780, authorized contract with Longview International Technology Solutions for Post-Disaster Support Services.

7:08

Ordinances being introduced 07033, ordinance to amend and research chapter seven, the mobile city code and the city of mobile schedule of fines.

7:20

Okay, who's first nobody wants to talk about it?

7:26

I uh councilwoman Ingram.

7:28

Thank you, madam vice president.

7:30

Um, again, I just want to commend um the team for the work and this total overhaul of the um ordinance.

7:39

And I also want to share, you know, the appreciation for animals.

7:45

Um, I think it's 7-23 aggravated animals at large, immediately you must see the judge.

7:52

So those are you know, I'm I'm really excited about that.

7:55

But my first question is um I I recall hearing that this was modeled after Huntsville's uh ordinance.

8:02

Can we clarify that and confirm?

8:08

Thank you.

8:09

Um, yeah, I'll start by saying that uh there's a great deal of effort put into this by Robert Bryant and Grant Gibson who've done a fantastic job.

8:17

And uh it's really about protecting our animals, protecting our people, and protecting responsible uh animal owners.

8:23

Robert can get into kind of some of the specifics about um the origination of this ordinance and what was modeled after.

8:32

Good morning.

8:32

So uh Huntsville was definitely one of the uh municipalities that we looked at.

8:36

There were several uh across the state of Alabama and the Southeast where a lot of these ordinances were modeled from.

8:42

So not just Huntsville, but Huntsville was one of the uh uh bigger ordinances that we looked at and uh tried to model.

8:50

Thank you for that.

8:51

And the reason I ask, and and maybe I'm overlooking it.

8:54

Um I noticed that you know, when you're talking about uh an aggressive animal, a dangerous animal, and you go through an investigation.

9:01

My question is is there anywhere in our ordinance that addresses the length of time that you that hearing must take place, like within 30 days, within 60 days.

9:10

Has that been considered?

9:12

It is it is not considered because the uh hearings to remove animals uh specifically that typically takes place at the district court level, and while it's not addressed at the state level exactly how long of a period to wait for these types of crimes, there is precedence that says we have 10 days to file a motion and 20 days to hear it.

9:31

But from the city standpoint, our uh process is always file those motions as quickly as possible, and then it will be up to the courts to decide when that actual court date will be.

9:41

But am I hearing you say that they must do it within 20 days?

9:44

No, that's that's that's how the state normally operates on animal welfare concerns, but there's no law that specifically states that for animals running at large or vicious animals.

10:00

And and I bring that point up because again, when I looked at the different other states across Alabama, they are putting a time frame on that because again, it is a uh dangerous animal, you know, and you have you know, you're going through that investigation so that we can move forward.

10:09

So that's one of the things that I would ask us to think about and consider.

10:13

Um that's it for right now, Madam Vice President.

10:16

I come.

10:17

Oh, the other one was the interagency communication.

10:20

Uh, again, from personal experience, I'm asking, you know, as we go through this, and I think Chief share with me a plan for this, but I would like for the public to hear and for for for my colleagues to hear what is the plan to ensure interagency communication?

10:34

Because if it's a Saturday night at 12 p.m.

10:38

or you know, um 1 a.m., you know, what happens?

10:41

How will that communication?

10:43

What would that look like to ensure that we're truly enforcing this ordinance?

10:48

Yes, ma'am.

10:49

So uh, you know, we talked uh a great deal last week, I believe.

10:53

And so there is an after hours call process for calling out animal control officers in instances of emergency situations, vicious dogs, animals that have been hit by a car, or if someone's being arrested and uh dog needs to be impounded, uh injured animals.

11:07

There are many instances in which animal control officers are on standby and can be called out after hours.

11:12

Now, for those instances that are not considered uh emergencies, uh, you know, a dog walking down the street that's not posing a threat to anybody and things like that.

11:20

You know, we are looking at a better process for uh sending that information over.

11:24

And one of the things we talked about is uh well that uh uh Chief Barber brought up was perhaps having the uh the report sent over directly from the dispatch or the uh daily reports from the police department sent to our department for review.

11:37

And so we're definitely working with uh the director of public safety and the police department to make sure we get that information forwarded over in a timely manner.

11:46

Okay, thank you.

11:47

And again, um, Mr.

11:49

Brian, I just want to thank you and your team, you know, for the work that you've put in this, but more importantly, for consistently um demonstrating that follow-through and and responsiveness um to the concerns of victims.

12:01

Thank you.

12:02

Yes, ma'am, thank you.

12:04

Yes, sir, Mr.

12:05

Penn.

12:05

Um, I just want to thank um Robert and Grant as well for the hard work um for putting this in place.

12:11

Um of my concerns um is something that they really can't do because of the state um guidelines already in place, the laws.

12:19

Um so uh one of my suggestions, my requests is or I know Robert, some of the things that you shared uh with me, the reasons why we can't do the animals and that's people property.

12:29

Um I would like to see what can we do on the state side um going into this new session in 27 um that we can kind of you know put some requests in to our state legislators so we can kind of just make the the orders I know as strong as possible.

12:45

Um so um from the administration side, so the information I share, if you could give me some notes and some things that we could put together so we can reach out to our state legislator.

12:55

Yes, sir, absolutely.

12:56

All right, thank you, Ron.

12:58

Vice President.

12:58

Yes, sir.

12:59

I don't expect we'll pass this next week.

13:00

It'll probably go through a holdover.

13:02

So I know that there will be some amendments to it.

13:06

I just uh need a little time to get those together so that we can offer them up.

13:11

Okay.

13:12

Anyone else?

13:15

Okay.

13:17

Consent resolutions being introduced.

13:19

31783 authorized the mayor to apply, accept and receive a grant from the Department of Justice Office of Community Oriented Policing Services for the fiscal year 2026 law enforcement and mental health and wellness act program, 250,000, no local match.

13:34

40, 784 is um Madam.

13:38

Oh, I'm sorry.

13:41

Thank you.

13:42

Uh back to 31-783.

13:45

Would you provide?

13:46

I I think this is so needed.

13:48

Can you provide more information on the peer training, you know, in terms of mental health for our police officers and so forth?

13:54

What does that look like?

13:55

Uh looks like quite a bit, actually.

13:57

Um, one of the things we always think about is the fact that officers are routinely exposed to trauma.

14:07

So the Office of Public Safety has created a public safety wellness program that encompasses fire department, uh, police department, as well as uh unsworn personnel.

14:19

However, this grant is focused on law enforcement.

14:24

So we're looking at peer support programs, we're looking at uh a number of different programs.

14:32

Actually, we're looking at our officer and family counseling services.

14:36

We're looking at wellness coordinating.

14:39

Uh we're looking at uh trauma-informed and post-critical incident care.

14:45

Uh we're looking at a number of factors that play into the overall wellness of officers.

14:52

Uh, because we need them well.

14:53

I mean, I've worked in homicide, I still deal with trauma.

15:02

It's pretty critical.

15:03

So would it would it be like officers that are already on the force that would be the peers, or is it sometime retired officers?

15:11

You know, what is it?

15:12

Well, we have uh we have a peer support person now, uh public safety wellness person as it's uh Chelsea Kelsey Tippery.

15:20

Uh she is working on a program now uh to help our officers.

15:23

So some of that will look like peer-to-peer, officer to officer.

15:27

Uh, but a lot of the training will have to be those who have shared experiences, uh, so that they can actually speak to the language of what law enforcement officers understand uh and respect uh what they do.

15:41

Uh but Kelsey is working on develop on the development of that program.

15:46

It would be great that once that's developed.

15:48

If we can get more information on that, share that with others so that uh the public will know how we're trying to support with mental health and wellness.

15:56

Absolutely.

15:57

Thank you.

15:57

Oh, you're welcome.

15:59

Anyone else?

16:01

Okay.

16:04

40784 declare the structure at 1307 Willow Lane, public nuisance and order demolished 58785 and 786 are declaring weeds noxious and assessing cost for removal of weeds.

16:17

Groups 1680 and 102.

16:21

60, 787 and 788 are determined appropriations to James T.

16:27

Strickland Youth Center, Liberty Learning Foundation, serve a public purpose and approved payment.

16:33

CIP resolutions being introduced, 01789, authorized agreement with Tyndall Construction for repairs to the upstairs restroom and break room of the transit building, 161,000.

16:48

08790, approved purchase order to game time for replacement of playground netting and rubber safety surfacing for Metal Lavana Park, 71,785.23 cents.

17:02

Madam Vice President.

17:03

Yes, ma'am.

17:04

I have a question.

17:04

Um, just in terms of the timeline.

17:07

So the playground netting and the rubber safety surfacing, um, how long has that um request been in the queue to um address this?

17:17

Just trying to figure out the timeline that it takes to get something like this to the table for moving forward.

17:25

It has probably been in process for the last three months.

17:28

Oh, I turned it off.

17:30

Thank you.

17:31

Uh it's probably been in process for the last three months.

17:33

We had to bid it out.

17:34

We had the um we had the company come out and actually assess the netting and it's the covering that's up on the top because the kids are climbing up there.

17:42

Um, have them come assess, then put out a bid.

17:45

So it's taken about three months till they get actually on the agenda to get it done.

17:49

Okay.

17:49

And thank you for that.

17:50

And I'm asking because I'm thinking about Texas Street Park.

17:53

We submitted something, it's probably been now about six weeks.

17:56

And so I'm wondering how that process unfolds in terms of the timing.

18:00

Um, so something like that has to go out to be it.

18:02

And then so it's about a three-month period.

18:04

It depends on what it is, because sometimes we have to have a company come out and assess it, then we have to put it back out.

18:10

We have to go, it has to go through our internal process of moving money over from your park repair to get it done.

18:17

So it depends on what we are having to buy and how much it costs.

18:21

Okay.

18:22

And I appreciate you sharing that.

18:24

But again, I think if there's a way that we can communicate that to the general public, because when you have issues that are long-standing, they don't realize that some of this is taking three months, four months because of the bidding process because of the funding uh structure and so forth.

18:37

So I would like to follow up with administration if if if you all can guide me on how to get that done to really look at some that are in my area that are not moving um in a timeline that we would expect.

18:49

Okay, you know, according to what people are asking for, but no problem.

18:54

Thank you.

18:54

You're welcome.

18:56

Go ahead.

18:57

Yeah.

18:57

Um, thank you, Shauna, for working on this.

18:59

I know it has taken some time.

19:00

Um, I was uh I guess really at the past week and then yesterday, um, had somebody reach out to me.

19:07

Um, right now where we took the netting down where like the footers are, there's still some steel and some like cable ties and everything sticking up.

19:14

Um, I just want to put that on your plate to maybe see if we might go and I don't know what you do because I think in the bid is replacing the footers.

19:21

So I mean they're gonna have to come up anyways, it appears, um, but they're just uh there's a trip hazard out there is uh what what somebody emailed me yesterday about.

19:28

But I think I actually forwarded along to you.

19:30

So and then um, if I can, can I be listed as a um sponsor on this?

19:35

It's coming from six CIP funds.

19:38

Thank you.

19:39

Uh Madam Vice President.

19:40

Yes, sir.

19:41

It I remember last term.

19:45

If if it was happening in our district, whoever's district it was would show up automatically as a sponsor of the item.

19:52

Did we stop doing that?

19:54

No.

19:56

Okay.

19:57

So are you asking if it's in our district that we automatically should yeah?

20:01

Yeah.

20:02

Let's make a note to resolutions being introduced.

20:07

08791 approved purchase order to business oriented software solutions for annual renewal of boss desk service ticket and asset management software for MIT, $18,450.

20:20

08792 and 793 are approved and purchase orders to best price services and JJ quality homes for storm drainage vegetation and debris removal.

20:29

08794 and 795 are approving approving purchase orders to CDW government Dell Marketing for desktop computers.

20:39

23,848 dollars and 50 cents and 78,520 and 50 cents.

20:45

08796 approved purchase order to Howard Industries for annual renewal of device management software $34,254.

20:55

08797 approved purchase order MCCI for annual renewal of laser fish document management software 49,378 and 33 cents.

21:33

And vice president.

21:34

Yes, sir.

21:35

Um I want to say thank you all for uh putting this on the agenda.

21:38

I know uh it's been since 2008, I believe, since anything has kind of been adjusted, I guess, when it comes to the the police and fire pension.

21:45

Um obviously uh with this budget cycle, we're making one of the final chunks, I guess, of uh contributing catch up to that to the pension.

21:53

Um when it comes to this cost of living adjustment, and and I'm not saying I'm anti this or I'm most you know really for this, but um, in order to in order to kind of at least get get myself comfortable with making this, uh making this this one time cost of living adjustment, obviously, because there's going to be implications moving forward.

22:11

Um, is there a way I think there was an actuarial report that was just prepared.

22:16

Um, is there is there a way we might get some justification of why it's okay or why we're finding the pension to do this?

22:22

Um just uh because right now all we have on the agenda is just the resolution kind of laying out how this cost of living adjustment's gonna take place.

22:29

But um if there's anything as far as number wise, just to help kind of provide justification that um because again I get a little nervous when we're when we're working with the police fire pension.

22:38

Obviously, there's a history there, but um, if there's anything from the actuarial that just kind of shows this on that that we can that we got the room, I guess to do that cost of living.

22:47

We can provide you were right, all right.

22:54

Um yeah, the you've seen actual reports there, numbers everywhere.

23:00

Essentially, the plan is caught up.

23:04

Actually, with recent market performance, I'm sure it's even doing better.

23:08

Now, those gains amortize every year, so there's all kinds of stuff going on, but essentially the plan is caught up.

23:14

The cost of the cola is around the $500,000 a year figure that will get paid from the plan, the increase to the actual plan liabilities are in the six million range.

23:27

Um which there's there's room for that.

23:31

So the actual provided some assurance that the colour does not materially impact adversely impact the plan.

23:39

And so I think that's the relevant data.

23:44

So hopefully market holds everything else, but even since the last actual report, the market's done very well.

23:51

So Madam Vice President, yes, sir.

23:54

So requesting the actual, if you gave me an actual, I mean, I I don't know that I don't understand it completely, but some sort of summary, you know, maybe from you, Mr.

24:04

Finance Director or the pension board, you know, to sort of lay it out for us so that we have a sort of layman's view of the implications.

24:15

Absolutely.

24:16

Thank you.

24:16

Yeah, Madam Vice President, yes, ma'am.

24:19

Um I think uh if you look at the document, the resolution you provided, I think I understand it, but just for the general public, I noticed that if it was uh if you retired the period of October the first, 1977 through 1985, there's no increase.

24:34

Would you speak to that, you know, in general as to why for because of the structure?

24:39

So there was um there was a group of retirees, they were called the escalation.

24:44

Um that group of retirees from 77 to 85 do get cost of living adjustments whenever active employees get them.

24:51

Uh they get get it at half the rate, so the 2.5 would be 1.25 cola.

24:56

So they have been getting them.

25:00

The the groups that were actually targeting are the ones that have received none since 2008.

25:04

Okay.

25:04

And then my follow-up question, and maybe this is um a typo, I'm not sure.

25:10

But for the when it says 150 for the widows only, is it is does that really mean 150?

25:17

So the pension plan went through several series.

25:20

Um one of the older series of it, tiers um, only provided 150 a month to widows of retirees.

25:28

Okay.

25:30

So it depends on when that retirement occurred.

25:33

Okay.

25:34

All right.

25:35

Thank you.

25:36

Thank you, sir.

25:37

And I did want to address uh Mr.

25:38

Reynolds.

25:39

The the pension plan, if you think about it, has a normal cost, and then the unfunded liability that y'all kept hearing about.

25:46

The unfunded liability was the delta of future benefits and what the assets of the plan were.

25:52

And so it was never properly funded until 1997.

25:56

Um, that's when the actuarial funding came in to retire that unfunded liability.

26:01

At the time it was 80 million, but it had grown up to over 120 million in unfunded liability.

26:06

It took us 30 years to get that unfunded liability paid off.

26:11

The normal cost of the plan is every year, our employees accrue benefits, and that's the normal cost of the plan, and that is partially the employees' contribution.

26:21

Actually, the bulk of it is employee contribution.

26:23

Then you have court receipts from municipal court and fire insurance premiums that go into that plan.

26:30

The city then takes that actuarial what's the difference between those contributions and what's needed, and that's where the city contribution, so that's the normal cost of the plan.

26:41

Heard Logan mentioned six million dollars.

26:43

That's over the next 30 years in order to fund the COLA.

26:47

This is not an unfunded liability because what y'all are doing is agreeing to fund it.

26:52

So it is a funded liability that's going forward.

26:59

It will increase our yearly contribution, regular contribution by 500.

27:04

That's right.

27:05

Close to 500,000.

27:09

Okay.

27:11

Thank you.

27:13

25800 25801.

27:16

Accept a temporary construction easement and grant a non-exclusive access easement and right of way to RCU LLC for construction of three mile creek greenway trail project segment five.

27:31

25802, accept the recreational easement from our cube construction of three mile creek greenway trail project segment five.

27:42

Madam Vice President.

27:43

Yes, sir, Mr.

27:44

Penn.

27:44

Um, can we get an update um on segment five regarding the um three mile creek greenway drill?

27:53

Good morning, everyone.

27:55

So for segment five, we've been working on easements for the last couple of years.

27:59

Um, these particular easements we've been negotiating for five.

28:03

Um, so we're really happy to bring them forward today.

28:06

We've got one other small easement that we've been working on with a railroad that's adjacent to this.

28:10

It's 0.001 acres, but we still have to do it.

28:14

Um, we're currently working with that.

28:15

We're gonna purchase that from the railroad because it's where the old train bridge used to go over, just directly adjacent to this property.

28:22

Um, we have all of the bid documents ready.

28:25

So as soon as we get all this ready, it'll be sent to restore for approval.

28:29

Thank you.

28:31

I have a question.

28:31

What is a recreational easement?

28:33

I've never heard of a recreational easement.

28:36

A recreational easement is where we're it's it's for a park, so it's a it's a greenway trail, so it's a narrow easement, so it includes the trail and then a little bit of a section on either side because we have to do construction, so it's a particular type of easement that we do for these.

28:50

Everyone is a recreational easement.

28:53

Okay.

28:56

Stop anybody else?

28:58

I guess you can only recreate on the easement, right?

29:01

Well, it's a trail.

29:02

It's it's it's a trail, so it's it's a linear park, sir.

29:05

Yeah.

29:08

Got it.

29:09

Okay.

29:10

Thank you.

29:11

And anybody else?

29:14

6803 authorized settlement agreement and release of claims.

29:18

Call for public hearings 41804 call for public hearing to consider the application to rezone property located at 1509 Navco Road from B2 to B3, scheduled September 1st, 41805, call for public hearing to consider the application to rezone property located at 4600 A.

29:36

Hamilton Boulevard from RA to I2, scheduled September 1st, 41806 call for public hearing to consider the application to rezone property located at 97 center drive from R1 to R3 scheduled September 1st, 41807 call for public hearing to consider the application of Ever Bliss Senior Solutions, LLC for certificate of public convenience and necessity to operate a shuttle service schedule August 11th.

30:08

Madam Vice President.

30:09

Yes, sir, Mr.

30:09

Penn.

30:10

If you don't mind, let's look at some resolutions for potentially the waive 0879 and 1, 08792, 08793, 08794, 08796, 08797 and 6803.

30:34

No objection.

30:35

All right.

30:37

Any other announcements?

30:38

Yes, Madam Vice President.

30:39

Yes, sir.

30:40

Um, I have a question.

30:41

I um I believe that this week we were supposed to start the new um procedures for via.

30:49

Can we have an update exactly what's going on there?

31:04

Good morning.

31:05

Uh the original intent for VIA to launch on the 27th of July has had to be postponed slightly.

31:14

Uh, we wanted to ensure that there was a robust public engagement piece.

31:19

And over the course of the previous public engagement, there were some concerns that the public continued to maybe not quite get.

31:28

And we wanted to ensure that the success of the system uh translated into public confidence in that system.

31:37

In addition to that, we determined that the rebranding of the fleet was going to take a little bit longer than was originally anticipated.

31:46

We wanted to do it right.

31:48

We wanted to make sure that any funding that you guys had previously approved in the capital account was expended wisely based on the future fleet plan.

31:59

Uh, there are a lot of discussions about the idea of our fleet, and you guys have rightly brought this forward in previous conversations that it feels like our fleet's pretty big.

32:10

We now have a fleet strategy, and that means we need to honestly offload some of the fleet that we have currently to bring us down to below the spare ratio.

32:21

The spare ratio is something that the FTA requires us to maintain at 20% right now.

32:26

We're at about 30%, and we want to make sure that any rebranding that we do is inclusive of the idea of not spending on those vehicles if the goal is to sell them almost immediately.

32:39

Currently, we know that there were six vehicles that needed to be replaced in FY26.

32:45

You guys approved money towards that.

32:48

Since going through this fleet plan, we have determined that actually three of those do not need to be replaced.

32:55

So we are actually, when we go through procurement in this cycle, we will only be asking for three vehicles to be approved for replacement because the other three with the strategy that VIA has provided, they're going to be able to offload those.

33:09

So that's cost savings towards the total rebranding of the fleet.

33:14

That said, there are an additional four vehicles that we know in 2027 are going to come up for uh being sold because they'll be at their useful life.

33:24

Again, no need for us to spend money to have them wrapped to the new brand so that uh we just turn around and sell it.

33:32

It feels a little bit like a misplaced use of public funding.

33:38

The mayor has been incredibly attuned to this, and he has searched for options to make sure that what we are doing minimizes cost and is responsible to the taxpayer dollars.

33:51

So by postponing, we're able to get through everything that has been going on in these last couple of uh weeks to ensure that what is done is responsible to the council, to the city administration, and to the city public at large.

34:10

So we are currently running the same routes.

34:12

We are, yes, sir.

34:13

And um what I know we postpone is the date that um we have in mind.

34:18

So what we would like to do is there's a meeting this week to discuss uh internally what the timeline is for launch.

34:27

Currently, we have said let's wait until after uh Labor Day, and we've not given a date intentionally because we want to make sure that what we are able to do is to have a certain number of the fleet rebranded when the routes go into effect, so that there is not a liability uh to the writers that would see a MOGO vehicle, which will come under the contract at that time, branded as MOGO instead of second line transit.

35:00

It's things like that that create a public uh appearance of propriety and thoughtfulness in making sure that everybody is comfortable with it.

35:08

Whether it is September the 8th, which is the day after uh Labor Day, or whether it is the 30th of September and coincides with the opening of the new fiscal year remains to be seen at this time.

35:22

Our goal is to get to that actual date and provide it to you guys at the soonest practice uh possibility, inclusive of any commentary that would come out of this week's meetings.

35:35

Do we have enough vehicles ready for the MOGO, like the Uber type of transportation?

35:40

We do, yes, at this moment.

35:42

And how many vehicles will that be?

35:43

Uh so my understanding, and I apologize you've caught me.

35:46

Uh currently there are three in operation.

35:49

My understanding is that by the end of this, there will be seven in operation.

35:54

Uh, but let me get you a more exact figure on that.

35:57

Uh, what we are doing is taking previous vehicles assigned to administration uh that helps us get to the MOGO number of fleet that are revenue generating and in service as opposed to uh administrative without having to turn around and purchase new vehicles.

36:16

So this is again a smart way of reconceiving the existing fleet to fit the new service plan without incurring additional cost.

36:25

And so we have been working with the FTA.

36:27

That is actually a meeting we will be having today at 12 uh 30 with the FTA to ensure that all of that is approved and we will update the city's profile on the FTA website to reflect those changes so that we keep the vehicle count down to the greatest degree possible, knowing that we do not want to increase the fleet currently because of again the spare ratio.

36:52

Okay.

36:53

Um my last question what's going on with the pension with the um the mobile transit workers?

37:00

Uh there should be no problems with the pension currently.

37:03

There were some concerns that were brought up uh last week that I think that the city administration and the finance uh executive director have sorted out.

37:13

Uh the actuarial was a part of that conversation, and ultimately it comes down to there was a little bit of misinformation that might have uh made it through some of the channels that created some concerns, but all of that has been resolved at this point.

37:27

Once the new actuarial amount is given to the city uh sometime in the next 30 days, I would expect, uh, we will know what the city's new uh contribution amount needs to be monthly.

37:43

But currently we are caught up, we have a zero balance that is owed, and we are waiting on the reports.

37:50

But all of this information has been disseminated here locally all the way through the national union representatives that were included on that email, so that there are no concerns that can be brought up with validity that this information hasn't been disseminated fully and inclusively of all the different strata that are in affected by this particular decision at this point in time.

38:14

Okay.

38:14

I'm just requesting um you keep the council updated with any changes on that take place.

38:19

Uh we will certainly do that.

38:21

Luckily, I can commit to you right now that there are no changes that need to be made because the city is in compliance and all aspects of it, whether it's via or uh the contribution otherwise are being taken care of.

38:34

Thank you.

38:34

You're welcome.

38:35

Anybody else?

38:36

Madam Vice President.

38:38

Not on this topic, but thank you, sir, for the um information.

38:43

I I do want to ask that when Harmon Cares comes when you bring that program back that we get an update on it.

38:49

Because I I as I look, you know, in light of the recent um gun violence incidents, I think the plan that you all have for that area is excellent for our youth and moving them forward and getting them involved.

39:00

So as you revamp that, if we can definitely, you know, get an update so that people that want to be involved can really be involved and contribute their talents back to the community.

39:12

I completely agree.

39:13

Um I completely agree.

39:18

Uh safer communities is a big part of that.

39:21

Uh we are planning to engage the public uh more uh with the hope of getting the community to really buy in.

39:32

Uh in the past, we've had some difficulties getting the community to buy in.

39:37

Um we will continue that effort, however, uh, but the goal is to get them to come by, participate, see how they can help us engage when we start safe passage.

39:49

The goal is to utilize public safety, i.e.

39:54

uh police department and fire department, but we also seek to get the public to be a part of that along with the school system.

40:02

School system are great partners.

40:04

Uh they've helped us out tremendously.

40:06

However, uh, we need more engagement, but we need more engagement from the public more than anything.

40:13

So again, I think that you know, any if there are any efforts that you know, I can partner from the city council perspective, from my, you know, in my area to support with the public engagement.

40:24

I want, you know, my efforts are there.

40:26

Uh uh count me in.

40:28

But as you share, that program really could be a kick start for us to really begin to have opportunities for students, especially our adolescents after school, um, and and re engage in the community about the importance of um safety and and the things that we can do.

40:46

Um, Chief shared with me some programs that you all had before.

40:49

And I think that Harmon Cares was moving in that direction.

40:52

So I would like to, you know, know when we get back started and let me know what I can do to get the community more involved.

40:59

Uh we will love that.

41:00

I will tell you that we are currently working with uh Councilman Fleming also with our uh young people uh safe, clean and kind program.

41:11

Uh all that's under the safer communities banner uh with the goal of trying to get the community to understand that that the only way we create safer communities is by getting everyone involved.

41:22

So yeah, so I I encourage everyone to uh to figure out how they can be a part of that.

41:28

So yeah.

41:32

That's it for me.

41:33

Thank you.

41:34

All right.

41:34

Anything from the administration?

41:37

All right, we are rejourned.

41:38

See you all at 10 30.

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Summary of Proceedings

Mobile City Council Pre-Meeting Summary - July 28, 2026

The Mobile City Council held a pre-meeting on Tuesday, July 28, 2026, at approximately 9:00 AM, presided over by Vice President (acting in the absence of Council President CJ). The meeting covered approval of prior minutes, appeals for noise ordinance waivers, a public hearing declaration, and discussions on several ordinances, resolutions, and administrative updates. No formal votes were taken; items were discussed and prepared for the regular meeting at 10:30 AM.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes (July 21, 2026): No questions or concerns; approved.
  • Noise Ordinance Appeals: Requests for waivers were presented:
    • August 19 (5:00 PM – 10:00 PM) on Airport Boulevard – Councilwoman Ingram requested the end time be changed from 10:00 PM to 9:00 PM.
    • August 15 (6:30 PM – 10:00 PM) on Pine Run Road – Councilman (unidentified) stated, "I'm gonna deny the one in my district. Deny this one. Yes, it's in the middle of a neighborhood. It's not conducive to a wild party."
    • September 6 (12:30 PM – 4:30 PM) in Langham Park – No objection.
  • Public Hearing: Scheduled for the regular meeting to declare the structure at 1307 Willow Lane a public nuisance and order demolition.

Discussion Items

  • Rezoning Request (Ordinance 64032): Proposed rezoning of 7271 Greelight Road from R1 to B1. Councilman Woods stated, "I'm not in favor of this one... to what I can see is it's speculative zoning... there's not a plan for the property. The B1 is just arbitrary at the moment. So it's just my intention to vote it out." Allowed other council members to vote as they wish.
  • Playground Equipment at Labretta Park (Resolution 2177): Councilwoman Gregory inquired about the timeline for installation. Administration responded that work would begin in September, after school starts. Discussion included a community celebration, a final "play date," and preserving handprint bricks from the original playground. Administration agreed to coordinate with Parks and Rec.
  • Governance Review Consulting Services (Resolution 2178): Councilman Penn requested a one-week hold, wanting to see the previous product from the contract. Councilwoman Gregory also asked for the best practices report from the prior review. Administration acknowledged receiving some information that morning and agreed to provide additional details. The item was held over.
  • Animal Ordinance Overhaul (Ordinance 07033): Councilwoman Ingram commended the team and noted the ordinance was modeled after Huntsville and other municipalities. She questioned whether there was a time frame for hearings on dangerous animals (citing 10-20 day precedence) and asked about interagency communication for after-hours enforcement. Administration described an after-hours call process and ongoing coordination with police. Councilman Penn requested notes on state-level changes to strengthen the ordinance. Vice President stated the ordinance would not pass next week and would be held over for amendments.
  • Police and Fire Pension Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA): A resolution was introduced (without clear number) for a one-time lump sum payment to retirees. Councilman Reynolds requested actuarial justification to ensure the pension plan could afford the COLA. Finance Director explained the plan is caught up, the COLA cost is roughly $500,000 per year, and the increase to liabilities (~$6 million) does not materially impact the plan. Councilwoman Ingram asked about no increase for retirees from 1977-1985 (the "escalation" group) and about the $150 widow benefit. A request for a layman's summary was made. Administration agreed to provide the actuarial report and summary.
  • VIA Transit Update: Administration reported that the VIA launch (originally July 27) was postponed to after Labor Day (possibly September 8 or end of September) to allow for robust public engagement, fleet rebranding, and a fleet strategy to reduce spare ratio from 30% to 20%. Three of six planned vehicle replacements were deferred, saving costs. Three MOGO vehicles are currently in operation, with a plan for seven. Councilman Penn asked about the pension for transit workers; administration confirmed it is resolved, with a zero balance owed and no concerns.
  • Harmon Cares Program: Councilwoman Gregory requested an update on the program, emphasizing its importance for youth engagement after recent gun violence. Administration noted the program is under the "Safer Communities" banner and that public engagement is needed. They are working with Councilman Fleming on the "Safe, Clean and Kind" program. Councilwoman Gregory offered to partner on community engagement.

Key Outcomes

  • Approvals: Minutes approved; noise ordinance appeals for Airport Boulevard (with time change) and Langham Park accepted; appeal for Pine Run Road denied.
  • Public Hearing Set: For 1307 Willow Lane (nuisance/demolition) during the regular meeting.
  • Holdovers: Resolution 2178 (governance consulting) held one week; animal ordinance held over for amendments; police/fire pension COLA resolution held for actuarial information.
  • CIP and Other Items: Items discussed but no final votes; many were noted as "resolutions being introduced" and will be acted on at the regular meeting. Some resolutions were potentially waived for reading (as requested by Councilman Penn).
  • Next Steps: Administration will provide additional documentation on governance review, pension actuarial, and VIA timeline. The regular meeting began at 10:30 AM.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning. CJ is uh out right now, but he will be back for our regular meeting coming up at 10 30. Lisa. This is the pre-meeting of the Mobile City Council Tuesday, July 28th. We have approval of minutes from July 21st. Any questions, concerns? Okay. Appeals, we have requests for way of the noise ordinance on August the 19th from 5 p.m. until 10 p.m. on Airport Boulevard. August the 15th from 6 30 to 10 on Pine Pine Run Road. September 6th from 12 30 p.m. to 4 30 in Langham Park. Okay. Ms. Wash here. Uh Madam Vice President. Councilwoman Ingram. If we could change that from nine uh 10 p.m. to 9 p.m. please. Okay. Josh. Um I'm gonna deny the one in my district. Deny this one. Yes, it's in the middle of a neighborhood. I drove this week. It's not conducive to a wild party. Okay. All right. Public hearing today. It's a public hearing to declare the structure at 1307. We'll lay in a public nuisance and order it demolished. Okay, we'll hear that public hearing and CJ will be here for the regular meeting. Presentation of petitions and other communications to the council. Vandal and Pierre provide updates on the Mobile City County Youth Council. Timothy Hollis request that uh Tomaville be recognized as a historic district. Ordinances held over 64032. Consider the proposed rezoning of property located at 7271 Greelight Road from R1 to B1. Councilman Woods, yeah. Um I'm uh I'm not in favor of this one. Uh you know, at the moment, this is uh to what I can see is it's speculative zoning. Um, you know, there's not a plan for for the property. Uh the B1 is just arbitrary at the moment. So it's just my my intention to vote it out. I'll I'll let y'all vote however you need to or however you want you wish, but I'm I'm gonna vote to tonight. Okay, any other questions? Okay. Resolution is held over 0870, approved purchase order to sunbelt fire for fire boots and helmets. 0973 transfer funds from general fund athletic aquatics to Capital Account Africa Town Welcome Center.

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