To order, can the clerk please call the roll?

Alder McGuire here.

Alder True Hart here.

Alder Frankie?

And Alder Vestine.

Here.

We have a quorum.

Item B correction of minutes from June 8th, 2026.

Looking like no.

So those will stand as presented.

Item C one discussion possible recommendation to common council regarding the zoning code and the number of children allowed in an in-home daycare.

This is Administrator Rindy.

And so following up what was kind of brought up at business by the public at the council meeting last week.

But also there's some city ordinances that sometimes regulate that or local ordinances in our local ordinance within the various residential districts.

Reflected on in-home day care, and then went on to define it as four to eight children, where the state is now as of August 1st, allowing it to be up to 12 children with certain requirements.

And so we are recommending and was added for that definition of basically then changing it from four to twelve to children to align with that.

This does require plan commission to also make a recommendation to common council and then uh a public hearing at common council as well.

So we do have this pended for plan commission at their meeting on August 12th.

Um, and then so just so for general awareness, typically, like we would take this to to common council to set the public hearing next um at the next meeting, but we're going to wait till it kind of aligns with the plan commission approval as well.

So it would have the public hearing getting set on the 17th for the first meeting in September if it gets recommended from here as well.

So are we basically mirroring the state's rules or are there any differences between the two um well the the state I think has further rules and regulations of what how many children they can truly allow and and why versus we're just kind of allowing that permitted use within those residential districts to align with what the state regulates then that it could be up to 12, but obviously they can't get the state license if they don't meet all of their requirements then first.

So the state still has its its requirements and that will also still be met.

We're literally just changing the number.

And it matches what the state is doing.

Right.

So I would support that.

Can we change the wording so we don't have to do this again if it changes again instead of saying up to 12 up to the maximum or whatever allowed by that specific statute?

That thought had crossed my mind, but I didn't take it anywhere, and I I it also seemed I don't know, I guess a little less clear is where I can do that.

There's there's also group centers in here that's that we'd have to change a lot of different things if we were gonna do that.

No, I think this is the simplest way to do it, even though it looks more complicated.

I think it's the simplest way to do it.

Well, I would move that we move this on to council.

Okay, we've got a motion and a second.

Um clerk, please call the vote.

Alder McGuire.

Aye, Alder True Hart, aye and Alder Vestine, aye.

Okay, that will move on to council based on the schedule that administrator Rindy talked about.

Um item C2, discussion and possible recommendation to common council, the approval of ordinance zoning text amendment for signs and the historic preservation overlay.

This is administrator Rindy, and for quite some time, probably coming close to at least nine months or even a year.

The plan commission had kind of been working through in staff of a consideration of allowing projecting signs in the um historic downtown district or city otherwise.

Um currently our zoning code does not allow for projecting signs.

And wanting to clarify, I was even confused when this whole discussion even first started that projecting signs are not, and I'm gonna forget the term blade signs, I believe.

Is so a lot of our businesses around the square have kind of what are called smaller blade signs that just kind of come out.

Um that's different than a projecting sign.

So the projecting is a much larger and comes out from the building.

So there was some discussion about if we would want to allow some of these, and especially if they kind of aligned with the historic nature from in the past, and the the path that they did finally kind of um come to agreement and making the recommendation for is what's presented to you that the historic character s sign um should have a should be historical in nature, and I believe have some proof of that it's been in existence prior, um, also not projecting more than six feet um into the yard or right of way, um, and then also having clearance from the sidewalk or driveway or alley and not exceeding 70 square feet in total sign or size as well.

Um so this was recommended from the plan commission again.

Then this would have to go on to common council of with another public hearing at that point as well.

True, sorry, and there is um a requirement for a conditional use permit.

That's a very key point.

So they would have to it would go through historic preservation committee for approval as well as then to the plan commission for the conditional use, which does include um a public hearing at that point.

So and with a conditional use permit, they can obviously install or instill conditions and have an opportunity to hear from the public prior to the official approval as well.

So kind of allows for those unique kind of instances without just a blanket approval for any projecting sign as well.

So to be clear, this is a physical projecting sign, not a correct movie theater screen throwing it.

Correct, yes, yep.

A full so if you think of like one that might then maybe that is historical and well known right now with the Eugene Hotel of on the corner and kind of they had that large Eugene Hotel kind of projecting on the corner sign.

Umes that do currently still exist.

So the other thing is like there are some that do still exist that if they wanted to replace or or change, they would then not be non-conforming and not be able to.

Um that includes for examples of like Amy's Corner Cafe has a true more bigger actual projecting sign, um, Monroe Glass as well.

I think are two that I can think of.