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Nashua Finance Committee Meeting - September 4, 2025

Board of Aldermen MeetingsThursday, September 4, 2025
BodyNashua, New Hampshire
SessionBoard of Aldermen Meetings
DateThursday, September 4, 2025
StatusFILED
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Okay.

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We're going to begin the meeting.

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A meeting of the finance committee was held on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025, at 7 p.m.

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in the aldermanic chamber and duly notice in two places, including the city's website, in accordance with the requirements of RSA 91-A colon 2, Roman number 2.

0:24

Excuse me.

0:25

Mr.

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Clerk, would you please take the roll?

0:28

Sorry.

0:29

Alderman Tibodeau?

0:30

Here.

0:31

Alderman Gove is here.

0:32

Alderman Moran?

0:33

Here.

0:34

Alder Woman Timmins.

0:36

Alderman Clemens?

0:37

Here.

0:38

Alderman Clee.

0:39

I am here.

0:40

Mayor Doncius.

0:43

Mayor Donchus and Elder Woman Timmons have let us know that they would not be able to make it today.

0:52

And we do have a quorum.

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Public comment.

1:00

Seeing none.

1:02

Communications.

1:03

Communication from Amy Jurr Purchasing Manager in regard to annual preventative maintenance agreement in the amount not to exceed 25,196, funded from General Fund 50 for property services.

1:14

Make a motion to accept place on file and approve a one-year contract with Palmer and Sicard Incorporated for services and preventure and maintenance on HVAC systems for all of the fire rescue facilities in the amount not to exceed 25,196.

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Funding will be through Department 152 Fire Rescue Fund, General Fund 54 property services.

1:35

Hi.

1:36

Good evening.

1:40

So this would be the third year that we're looking to uh sign a service agreement with Palmer and Siccard.

1:47

We've had a really great relationship working with them.

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They maintain all of our uh heating air conditioning systems, uh four visits a year, filter changes, uh they service all of our boilers, clean the coils, condensers on our AC units.

2:04

They help us make our make best decisions on what types of repairs or replacements need to happen.

2:12

This year they're up slightly uh on their costs.

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We're up 756 over last year's agreement, which puts us over that $25,000 threshold, which is why I'm here tonight.

2:23

Um but what they have not gone up on is their hourly rate.

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So with the service agreement, it locks in hourly rate for labor.

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And that hourly rate has been unchanged for three years.

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And we all know that every year with inflation escalation, things go up.

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So they've kept their uh labor rate the same for us.

2:43

Um there any questions?

2:48

Seeing none.

2:49

All those in favor say aye.

2:51

Aye aye.

2:52

Those opposed and that motion carries.

2:56

Thank you.

2:57

Next communication.

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From Amy Jura purchasing manager in regard to amendment number two for the parking garage office design in the amount not to exceed 70,659, funded from bond 53 professional and technical services.

3:09

Make a motion to accept police on, file and approve amendment number two with Randall Paulson to perform additional investigation on utilities in the planned expansion area of the parking garage in the amount not to exceed 70,659.

3:22

Funding will be through Department 129 City Buildings Fund Bond 53 Professional Technical Services.

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Mr.

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Ush.

3:29

Uh good evening.

3:30

Amy DeRoche, Administrative Services.

3:32

Uh so yes, this will uh be for Randall Parlson.

3:35

They are designing the office expansion over at the parking garage on Elm Street.

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Um, in addition to some additional investigation that's needed to make sure we know where all of the utilities are located before they you know design foundations and such.

3:49

Um they'll also be designing um to relocate an existing drain that is in the garage deck, and also for um some EV charging stations that um have been expressed the desire to go in.

4:03

Um that should cover everything we need to do with Randall Paulson.

4:07

Happy to answer any questions.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Procedural████████████████████████████████32%
Capital Expenditures████████████████████████████28%
Budget Equity Analysis█████████9%
Hydroelectric Facilities████████8%
Procurement Processes████████8%
Public Works██████6%
Engineering And Infrastructure█████5%
Public Engagement████4%
Summary of Proceedings

Nashua Finance Committee Meeting - September 4, 2025

The Finance Committee of the Nashua Board of Aldermen met on September 4, 2025, at 7 p.m. in the Aldermanic Chamber. Chair Clee presided. Members present: Aldermen Thibodeau, Gove, Moran, Clemens, and Clee. Mayor Doncius and Alderman Timmons were absent. A quorum was present. The committee considered multiple purchasing communications, including a contentious amendment for parking garage repairs, and held a general discussion on the approval process for change orders.

Consent Calendar

  • Annual HVAC Preventative Maintenance: Approved a one-year contract with Palmer and Sicard Inc. for HVAC maintenance at all fire rescue facilities, amount not to exceed $25,196, funded from General Fund 50. Unanimous.
  • Parking Garage Office Design Amendment #2: Approved amendment with Randall Paulson for additional utility investigation and EV charging station design for the Elm Street parking garage office expansion, amount not to exceed $70,659, funded from Bond 53. Unanimous.
  • Hydropower Engineering Change Order #2: Approved change order with Van Dyce LLC for bathymetric and LIDAR surveys at Jackson Mills and Mines Falls hydroelectric facilities, amount not to exceed $41,700, funded from Capital Improvements 53. Unanimous.
  • Wastewater Hydraulic Gate Cylinder Repairs: Approved repairs to the screening and disinfection facility drain chamber hydraulic system by New Hampshire Hydraulics, amount not to exceed $79,650, funded from Wastewater Fund 54. (Note: Agenda misprinted amount as $41,700; corrected during meeting.) Unanimous.
  • Pavement Marking Change Order #3: Approved final change order for FY24 pavement marking contract with Markings Inc., amount not to exceed $162,000, funded from General Fund 54. Unanimous.
  • Sole Source Asphalt and Aggregates Purchase: Approved sole source purchase from Brock's Industries and Continental Paving, amount not to exceed $147,000, funded from General Fund 61. Unanimous.
  • Water Street Guardrail Repainting: Approved contract with Ed Swat Inc. to strip and repaint guardrails from Four Water Street driveway to the parking lot crosswalk, amount not to exceed $60,000, funded from Riverfront TIF Fund 54. Unanimous.
  • Record of Expenditures: Approved expenditures for the period August 15–28, 2025, as compliant with city charter. Unanimous.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • None.

Discussion Items

  • Parking Garage Repairs Amendment #1: Proposed amendment with Whiting-Turner Construction for unforeseen items (battery-powered emergency lighting, asbestos and lead abatement, security camera redesign, ground wire conduit replacement) at a cost not to exceed $526,972.53, funded from Bond 53. Alderman Moran questioned the large cost swing, and staff explained hidden hazardous materials. The initial vote failed 3–2 (Aldermen Thibodeau, Gove, Moran opposed; Aldermen Clemens and Clee in favor). Alderman Moran (or Clee? – transcript unclear) moved for reconsideration, which passed 4–1. The amended motion then passed 3–2 (three in favor, two opposed).
  • Owner’s Project Manager (OPM) Services Amendment #2: Approved amendment with Greenman-Pedersen Inc. (CPI) for continued oversight of the parking garage renovation project, amount not to exceed $142,832.20, funded from Bond 53. Alderman Clemens spoke in favor, noting the value of expert project management and that costs remained within the bond. The motion passed 3–2.

General Discussion

  • Alderman Moran expressed concern about approving change orders after work had occurred, citing a need for better process and transparency. He noted that the body should not approve funds after the fact, and that the situation could be misconstrued by the public.
  • Alderman Clemens clarified that the project could not continue without the amendment, and that contingency funds exist for such unforeseen conditions. He emphasized that the finance committee’s primary role is to ensure funds are available, not to set policy, and that the project had already been approved by the full board.
  • Director of Administrative Services Tim Cummings acknowledged the conversation and offered to provide regular project updates at the Infrastructure Committee to improve transparency. He noted that the parking garage project does not fall under a joint committee process, which may contribute to the disconnect.
  • Alderman Gove explained his consistent no votes on parking garage items, stemming from his objection to the initial use of a spending cap exemption to fund the project, not the project’s administration.
  • Chair Clee thanked DPW for quick response over the Labor Day weekend to a constituent’s sewer basin cover issue.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved unanimously: All items listed in the Consent Calendar, plus the record of expenditures.
  • Approved after reconsideration (3–2): Parking garage repairs amendment #1 ($526,972.53).
  • Approved (3–2): OPM services amendment #2 ($142,832.20).
  • Failed initially, then passed: The parking garage repairs amendment first failed 3–2, was reconsidered, and then passed by the same margin.
  • Directive: Director Cummings will provide regular parking garage project updates at the Infrastructure Committee.

Meeting Transcript

Okay. We're going to begin the meeting. A meeting of the finance committee was held on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025, at 7 p.m. in the aldermanic chamber and duly notice in two places, including the city's website, in accordance with the requirements of RSA 91-A colon 2, Roman number 2. Excuse me. Mr. Clerk, would you please take the roll? Sorry. Alderman Tibodeau? Here. Alderman Gove is here. Alderman Moran? Here. Alder Woman Timmins. Alderman Clemens? Here. Alderman Clee. I am here. Mayor Doncius. Mayor Donchus and Elder Woman Timmons have let us know that they would not be able to make it today. And we do have a quorum. Public comment. Seeing none. Communications. Communication from Amy Jurr Purchasing Manager in regard to annual preventative maintenance agreement in the amount not to exceed 25,196, funded from General Fund 50 for property services. Make a motion to accept place on file and approve a one-year contract with Palmer and Sicard Incorporated for services and preventure and maintenance on HVAC systems for all of the fire rescue facilities in the amount not to exceed 25,196. Funding will be through Department 152 Fire Rescue Fund, General Fund 54 property services. Hi. Good evening. So this would be the third year that we're looking to uh sign a service agreement with Palmer and Siccard. We've had a really great relationship working with them. They maintain all of our uh heating air conditioning systems, uh four visits a year, filter changes, uh they service all of our boilers, clean the coils, condensers on our AC units. They help us make our make best decisions on what types of repairs or replacements need to happen. This year they're up slightly uh on their costs. We're up 756 over last year's agreement, which puts us over that $25,000 threshold, which is why I'm here tonight. Um but what they have not gone up on is their hourly rate. So with the service agreement, it locks in hourly rate for labor. And that hourly rate has been unchanged for three years. And we all know that every year with inflation escalation, things go up. So they've kept their uh labor rate the same for us. Um there any questions? Seeing none. All those in favor say aye. Aye aye. Those opposed and that motion carries. Thank you. Next communication. From Amy Jura purchasing manager in regard to amendment number two for the parking garage office design in the amount not to exceed 70,659, funded from bond 53 professional and technical services. Make a motion to accept police on, file and approve amendment number two with Randall Paulson to perform additional investigation on utilities in the planned expansion area of the parking garage in the amount not to exceed 70,659. Funding will be through Department 129 City Buildings Fund Bond 53 Professional Technical Services.

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