4:33I'm going to go back.
4:34I mean, we'd like to have a lot of people.
4:35We'd love to have you say we only need six.
5:00Okay, I'm gonna call the order, call two order.
5:02The joint committee of infrastructure and the board of public works.
5:07Um this Thursday, November 20th, 2025, and the meeting is being held in the uh uh public works administrative building.
5:27Um getting into it, uh general introductory remarks.
5:32I personally don't oh yes, call the role.
5:36Alderman Large Michael Brian present down is here, Absent and Sullivan's absent Christie Bo here.
5:49Commissioner June Lemon here Commissioner Matty Greg here Matty is Vegan here, yeah.
5:59Jim Dons is here outstanding.
6:03Okay, getting back to the opening remarks.
6:06I don't have anything.
6:07Uh administrative service director Cummings.
6:10Do you have anything?
6:11I'm all set at this time, thank you.
6:15I'll call for it, but seeing no members from the public are attendance.
6:20So we'll go on to the next is the approval of the minutes.
6:24Um like to make a motion to approve the minutes of September 30th, 2025 meeting.
6:31Any discussion on the motion.
6:34Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
6:42Next is DPW garage project uh project, general progress and uh status update.
6:50This is gonna be presented by uh uh director Cummings and Mr.
6:55Joe Sullivan of Left Field OPM.
6:59So for the record, Tim Cummings, Director of Administrative Services.
7:02I'm gonna hand it over to uh uh Joe Sullivan who's gonna speak in more detail and at the end I'm gonna talk a little bit about the timeline after he finishes his remarks.
7:13Joe Sullivan for the record, left field OPM.
7:15Um I have a small PowerPoint presentation.
7:18I'd like to just go through at any time at any slide, please feel free to interrupt and ask any questions.
7:24Um just the task completed.
7:26We we've been meet we've been meeting weekly since the duration of the project, and I think it's essential for a number of different reasons.
7:33Uh Lisa's team and along with Lisa attend every single meeting and along with the designer, and we go through, you know, not only the program needs, but the essential uh layout of how it's gonna fit within the the site behind the admin building.
7:48Um we go through uh we as I indicated in the previous meetings.
7:52We decided to go with a pre-engineered uh vehicle storage to try to save some money, working with Harry's and Bode.
8:00They're working uh weekly and and pretty much monthly on what they're planning on doing as far as coordinating the design details from conventional construction to pre-engineer.
8:11We uh successfully passed the conservation commission as Lisa indicated earlier.
8:16Um through the uh and we're currently now in the AOT for the review and uh submittal process.
8:24Um value engineering.
8:25We're constantly looking at the building to look at efficiencies and and um program tweaks to the building to make it more cost-effective and easy to build.
8:34Um we're working uh also closely with Sandboarhead uh because there's some uh requirements for the um leaching and and internal drainage within the facility.
8:47So we needed to put some observation while we're working with them on the engineering aspects of that.
8:51With those have been installed.
8:52The testing was completed yesterday, and we're looking to get those results by the 22nd if everything goes well.
9:00Updated project website is in the works.
9:02We're actually have the draft.
9:04Um I'm anticipating it going over to the city and Lisa just for review early next week, and then hopefully they'll go live relatively shortly thereafter.
9:16Um, one of the things that I like to do on it regularly with the the group is to show them the progress as we're moving forward.
9:23We're spending some money on design, civil engineers and all of their internal components.
9:27So I'd like to show you exactly the level of detail they're going that they're they're going through.
9:31You can see on the on the site, it's uh it's a fairly large site with the admin building up front.
9:36The perimeter of how it's being built and the positioning of it uh on the back side of the building of the admin.
9:42We're making a connection as I indicated, and maybe the next draw will show it a little better.
9:47You'll see you know the how the configuration that space fills up with the building and the requirements that they're looking for.
9:56The internal uh parking you we talk about it all the time.
10:00It's a little over 360 pieces of equipment.
10:03Lisa, is that what you 327?
10:07Um, and you'll see within that parking area that she's made provisions uh and space needs for each uh you know um piece of equipment and and proximity of where it can go with the flexibility depending on the season, how it's gonna fit within that facade and working with HKT, you know, there's a continuity between the uh both HKT and Lisa, like they each know what the needs are, and she really produces a really good design for that that purpose.
10:37You'll see quick question.
10:39You said 327 pieces.
10:42How many can the garage hold?
10:4717, which is up from what are we doing today?
10:52What can we we have roughly half of that?
10:56Yeah, 60 something, right?
10:57Yeah, it's even yeah, less than half, right?
10:59Less than half, like 60.
11:02So that means uh vast majority of the trucks is still outside.
11:07Yes, yes, but we've also um part of the design.
11:10We're trying to do some uh overhead covered parking.
11:13We'll have some covered parking.
11:14So it'll it'll be it won't be in internally, you know, indoors, but it'll have you know cover that protected from the weather.
11:22Does your vehicles include the park correct vehicles?
11:25Yes, and what is all of public works vehicles?
11:29No, not school department, all of public works with the exception of wastewater.
11:37I have a question on the covered parking.
11:41Diesel vehicles are gonna be there, and if they are there, are you gonna have electrical connections for the globe plug?
11:48So part of that's a great question.
11:50So part of all of the parking areas, we're gonna do all of the infrastructure to put, you know, it's going to electric a lot of locations.
11:57I'm not saying the department of public works equipment are gonna be there at that point, but we are putting some infrastructure.
12:03There will be outlets, and we were are working with the electrical engineers to make sure that we coordinate specific outlets in in areas so that you know they can get through that.
12:12Our hope is to keep a lot of that, you know, the diesel equipment within the interior.
12:17And you coordinated with the school department on their vehicles relative to the wash and uh maintenance and other things.
12:26Those are city vehicles as well.
12:28Right now, they're all outside.
12:32So we have not coordinated with the school on school vehicles.
12:37I mean, the wash is a separate conversation, but I I want to clarify you're talking about, and again, Tim Cummings, director of administrative services for the record.
12:46You're talking about storage and housing of the vehicles, or you just maintenance, right?
12:51Well, as far as covered shelter, it could be that is as well as uh I don't know how much of the maintenance they perform themselves.
13:06We um we take care of of all of the uh maintenance of the school department equipment, uh, but we have not considered or contemplated any storage of their equipment within this facility.
13:19So the maintenance could still occur with the maintenance will still be able to occur the maintenance, but it's the stores that hasn't still I would coordinate with them just to make sure okay, because if we're looking at ZV vehicles or something, you know, they have a number of vehicles too.
13:40So I get just to add to that point.
13:43I and I can tell you the the site is very tight with what we're trying to put there based on you know all of the components associated with the division of public works to add even any type of overhead parking, and it it would be the turning radiuses are like we've gone through this uh NASIO to try to make sure that we we get to where we need to be.
14:04Um not necessarily inside.
14:06I'm no I'm talking outside as well.
14:08I mean, we're there there's a salt uh shed that's gonna be there, the brine location, how those trucks come in there.
14:14We I mean we've looked at every we this building has gotten tweaked 15 times.
14:19I want to say based on layouts and trying to make it work.
14:22Joe, do you have the the overall site plan?
14:26Is are one of those slides sort of that to show, yeah.
14:30So if well that that was a that's a tough one.
14:34Let me see if there's another one.
14:37David's uh the setting working and working at it.
14:48Well, that one that one's a good thing.
14:50This is probably the best one.
14:53So this is the existing, this is the landfill, this is the back of the landfill, if you will.
15:00This is what's being currently contemplated, just so you guys can see this that's existing.
15:05This is what we're in for now.
15:07This is the existing parking that we're using, and everything else beyond this is what's getting added.
15:15And it goes right up to the boundaries of the uh and then there's um find out that this points the covered parking that exists.
15:28There's really no other location to add any additional.
15:31So you have some covered parking.
15:33We're looking at moving that's all right.
15:35That may change, but um this covered parking here and here.
15:40Um that we need for all of our own equipment.
15:44So there isn't you can see the the proposed, hopefully, a truck wash we may have someday.
15:51Um other location on the site to additional parking really tight.
16:02Yeah, we we don't disagree, but we will coordinate with the school district just to make sure that that was a great point.
16:09Does it alderman down?
16:11Do you know how many like how many pieces of equipment we're talking about for the school department?
16:18Probably 500 50, like the larger buses.
16:25We're talking about trucks, trucks.
16:39All right, thank you.
16:42Um this is a layout for the um vehicle maintenance and the uh locker rooms that would be going to both of those spaces on each side of the vehicles storage.
16:54A little bit of better layout of the interior.
16:57You can see the spaces that are providing.
17:00We we will have them as a name in there, carry some of the mechanical equipment and some areas for storage within that vehicle storage.
17:07So both the vehicle maintenance and the admin areas will be able to utilize.
17:13Just trying to give you a better vision because you don't see it from a larger plan.
17:17I've really broken up.
17:18And I don't know if this is a practical aspect of the project, maybe it's only at night.
17:27When you walk through there, as you approach an area, the lights come on.
17:31When you leave an area, the lights go off behind you.
17:34Yeah, saves a lot of energy.
17:37So there will be an energy management management system evolved with this with the electrical engineers.
17:41Um, and you know, whether they're occupancy sensors as you're describing or motion sensors, I'm sure that you know we'll coordinate that as we move forward.
17:54This is the vehicle maintenance.
17:56Any questions at all so far as we're going?
18:02Um, so right now we're contracted with HJ Key to get us through 50% of construction documents.
18:08They're currently working through that process.
18:11We're working uh through our cost estimates periodically through this process to make sure that we're staying within you know the striking distance of the budget that we set forth.
18:20Um it continues with their engineers working weekly as I indicated.
18:24Our project team will coordinate any of the refined materials and finishes throughout uh IMEG has been instrumental in a lot of the civil engineering and permitting processes through the city and we've recorded that directly independent in independent with um the services being provided.
18:41Zoning board meeting is December 9th.
18:44Planning board meeting is scheduled for January 8th.
18:47Uh the sewer connection permit um application has been submitted uh to planning board.
18:53Um AOT uh is under review, and we're hoping that that we can have that hearing early uh beginning of the next year.
19:02And EPA stormwater uh construction permit notice of intent has been filed with construction.
19:10So if I could just tack on again, Tim Cummings, Director of Administrative Services, just to give a little bit of uh preview of the additional timeline that we're looking at, um putting aside or adding to everything that uh uh Joe has just said to keep on track for what we're hoping for, which is uh uh a July-ish start for construction to keep that uh uh uh on pace.
19:40We need to authorize the additional 50% of construction uh documents and continue with design.
19:48That's that approximate 5.5 million bond authorization.
19:52We're gonna be seeking approval for that uh in January.
20:00Um that would take us through the rest of that 50 percent design work that uh I just mentioned um wrapping up a design somewhere in that April May ish time frame.
20:10Um we will also in the spring need a bond authorization for construction.
20:16Um we would be seeking that sometime in that spring uh April May-ish time frame for uh uh authorization so we can issue a notice to proceed and start with the construction in that in that July time frame and to keep this project on track.
20:36So I would suggest that we have a meeting of the board of all the number.
20:44Yeah, and we're working closely with Harvey on a final JMP though, so we'll have an actual final number by the time we get to that point.
20:57We'll do we'll do I believe this project has uh been before the CIC previously.
21:02I know we have CIC coming up again, and we'll make sure that this project is submitted.
21:11Okay, any other questions?
21:17So yep, that's a state level permit that is referred to that we refer to as AOT.
21:22It stands for alteration of terrain.
21:25Yeah, and once you touch a certain uh volume or parameter you're required to file a permit with them further questions.
21:35Okay, moving on to the next is DPW garage project approval of invoices.
21:44Uh we're going individually, right?
21:50On these approval of uh invoices.
21:52Uh, we're going individual.
21:54Uh motion is to do only to do them all.
21:59Okay, read the motion.
22:05Services through October 31st, 2025.
22:09Number 0005-022442 in the amount of 378,059 dollars and eighty-two cents.
22:19Left field owners project managers service through September 30th, 2025.
22:24Number 10, the amount of 26,500, and left field owners project managers services through October 31st, 2025.
22:33Number 11, any amount of 26,500.
22:39Chairman, I'm not sure if it was mentioned, but we also need uh an HKT uh another motion.
22:47Oh, that's another motion.
22:50Okay, any discussion on the motion?
22:54Approval of the invoices.
22:57Seeing none, call for the vote.
22:59All those in favor signify by saying aye.
23:03Motion carries moving next to DPW garage project approval of contracts and proposed amendments.
23:12But Wiz none says yeah, it says none, but when do you want when can we fit in that next motion for uh DHTC?
23:26Is that for the people uh wastewater?
23:29No, my number left field HDF.
23:42What is the previous balance though?
23:46So I was on a separate so I believe um yeah, because I have HT key, but for the water wastewater treatment right.
23:57But didn't we pay for the new so if I may, Mr.
24:01So what I believe you have is is you're gonna have uh a motion for the wastewater treatment facility, which will be an HKT invoice for 21,000, an HKT invoice for 39,000, and a left field OPM invoice for 26,000.
24:18That's probably the motion that that uh Alderman uh doubt is referring to.
24:22But in addition to that, we had a late edition invoice added, and that is for it uh a fourth invoice for HKT for 26,000 dollars.
24:33Can I just make a point though?
24:35We we did we did just do services through October 31st, 2025 in the approval of 378,059 and 82 cents, and that is the account balance that includes that previous balance, that previous invoice.
24:48So we kind of just approved both at the same time.
24:51Yeah, at least from my understanding.
24:55All right, so we need a motion for invoice number.
25:00I've got to give you the last digits.
25:04That's fine, but we already we kind of already approved that.
25:07Yeah, I thought we already did.
25:09It was part of the 378,000 in the line item.
25:12That's what's confusing me.
25:22So uh director coverage, we should be all set, right?
25:28I love the way we can muddle right through it.
25:33Moving on to the next uh item is number six, DPW garage project.
25:40Approval of contract proposals and amendments.
25:44Is do you agree, Director Cummings?
25:46Yes, that's correct.
25:47Okay, movement to number seven.
25:50Wastewater treatment facility, general progress update.
25:54Director Cullen Cummings and Mr.
25:59I'm just gonna hand it over to uh Mr.
26:04Um, I I just wanted to give you an update.
26:06Currently, the HKT is the designer of record for the wastewater treatment facility.
26:11They've already done their our program charret, and we've came up with a um original program requirements for that particular facility.
26:21Upon their layout of their overall program, it gave the city and the wastewater treatment um team a chance to look at the overall size and massing of that building.
26:32We realized based on all of the program requirements and and layout within that um building that we needed to make some tweaks and changes to it.
26:43Over the last, I'm gonna say three weeks or so.
26:46Uh their team has actually looked at it and looked at the efficiencies and and maybe tweaking a few locations within that building to reduce the overall size and massing.
26:55The location of where it's going is right to the right as you enter the facility.
26:59And what happens is there's a grade change that's significant that runs.
27:03I don't know if it's north to south or I want to say east to west, but it's it runs perpendicular with the property.
27:11And the way it drops down, we wouldn't we weren't able to fit the original configuration on there since then, and to the credit of Lisa Harrett and her team, they've actually reworked portion of the building to make it more efficient so that it actually will fit not only on that on that location in that proximity, but kept the traffic flow within the wastewater treatment facility to allow the egress for the operations and provide uh future construction if we needed to in other localities.
27:40So she managed to move a couple of um storage areas to another locality and was able to reconfigure some of the back truck storage that they're looking to do on that site and still provide access for um all of the emergency management needs as we move forward.
27:54So currently, right now they're moving to schematic design.
27:58That's the uh we're gonna stop there and make sure that you know we get a hold on where we are financially, whether it fits the site that locality.
28:07We've had uh additional survey requirements that are needed on there, including any of the infrastructure uh evaluation as we move forward.
28:15So that's the status as of right now that we'll have an up um updated set of drawings at my next meeting for you that we can go through in detail and just show you how the layouts work.
28:26Okay, any uh questions on the uh update.
28:32Okay, seeing none, we'll move on to wastewater treatment facility approval of invoices.
28:39Do we have a motion?
28:41I'd like to make a motion to approve HKT and architects in services through September 30, 2025, number 002 022511 and the amount of 21,775 dollars, HKT architects in services through October 31st, 2025, number 003-022511, the amount of 39,451 and left field LLC over project manager services through September 30th, 2025, number 04, in the amount of 26,500.
29:22So the second invoice is additive of the first one, correct?
29:27So I don't do we just approve the second one and we should be.
29:31Just the second one only.
29:33Yeah, so the the 21,000 is previous balance that exists on that second invoice.
29:39And we're previously approved, yeah.
29:41So all you need to do is approve the 39,000.
29:46Do you want Altamandow to read it?
30:00Uh if if I could, I just want to make sure it's clear that the uh the motion should be for uh HK architect services through October 31st, 2025 for a total amount of 39,451 dollars and 25 cents, and that's all that's necessary for HKT, and then for left field OPM services through September 30th, 2025 is for 26,500.
30:19Any further questions on these invoices?
30:23Seeing none of call for the vote.
30:25All those in favor signify by saying aye.
30:31Moving to item number nine, wastewater treatment facility, approval contracts, proposals, and amendments.
30:38And I'll turn this again to Director Cummings and Mr.
30:42Yes, thank you, uh Ms.
30:44So what you have before you is to continue with the OPM services for the wastewater treatment plant facility.
30:51We're gonna need to amend their contract uh for them to continue with the same uh scope of work, and that is in the amount of 79,500, and I'd ask for your favorable approval of the of this contract amendment.
31:04Okay, so any discussion on that, and we've got to have a motion.
31:11Motion to approve the left deal LLC amendment number one of 79,500.
31:17Any discussion on the motion seeing none, call for the vote.
31:22All those in favor signify by saying aye.
31:26I posed motion carries.
31:31Other expenditures for approval.
31:34Do you agree, Director Cummings?
31:38Old business, we have none before us, and we're gonna call for an adjournment, but prior.
31:45Chairman, if I may, I just want to make sure the record is clear and I apologize for the for the snap food just a few minutes ago.
31:52But just so the record is clear, I want to make sure everyone understands that what was the emotion uh for the DPW garage project approvals of invoices was a total for $378,009 and eighty-two cents, and that also encompassed uh a prior invoice of 206,442 and 76 dollars.
32:14The in the agenda reads a little inaccurate.
32:17I apologize, I'll get that corrected in the future, but I just want to make sure folks understand that uh that the 378,000 includes the 206,000.
32:26Okay, is that clear to everybody?
32:29Uh Alderman Thibodeau.
32:31Along those lines, um, when we just went through item eight, we went through and covered the fact that um the second line for HKT was uh included the 21,000, and then we approved that, but did we actually approve the left field yeah?
32:50We did in one motion, yes.
32:52Yeah, even though they're two different vendors.
32:54Yes, but they were it was encompassed in one motion.
32:56Okay, I didn't know.
32:58Okay, typically we didn't do that, so I was just gonna very good.
33:04I like it when everybody's happy.
33:08Okay, moving on to old business, and like I say, there's none.
33:14And uh director Cummings.
33:17Uh, do we have a date we in the future that we're gonna look at?
33:22So um I'm I think we're gonna try to take December off, or at least I'm gonna suggest that to the group.
33:29Um and if that's the pleasure uh of the group, then we would be looking at mid-January.
33:37Uh discussion of uh voiding the December meeting.
33:42I mean, I get cookies to make and everything else, so yes, Alderman Tibetan.
33:49Yeah, I was gonna say thank you, Mr.
33:54My only comment would be you're planning on presenting at the board of Alderman on January 8th.
34:01So would that meeting need to happen before that uh if I understood correctly?
34:06Yeah, yeah, if I could, I'm I'm not aware of a date in January yet for a presentation.
34:11Um there may be that might be a different board.
34:14There might be a different approval.
34:15Uh but board of Alderman.
34:17I am not aware of a date being set up yet for uh for any type of approvals or or presentation.
34:24So I mean, if we were to to look at January, I'm gonna suggest something like January 22nd.
34:31Is that the next Board of Public Works meeting?
34:34I'm guessing that that is and would that be post Board of Alderman presentation?
34:43I'm guessing it would be.
34:47Do we need another thing?
34:49Do we need another meeting then before then to try the 15th?
34:55I think we're gonna get paid in December, we're fine.
34:58Yeah, I think we're in agreement to take December off.
35:00I think we're in agreement to take December off.
35:03And the 22nd, that means we're going to have uh some new committee members.
35:08Then I would anticipate that.
35:10So I would at this time I would like to thank Alderman Chris Thibodeau for being on the infrastructure committee with us.
35:21And uh so I appreciate your time that you spent with us.
35:27You'll be you'll be missed.
35:31Uh next I have is an uh motion to adjourn.
35:36I'd like to make a motion to adjourn.
35:38All those in favor signify by saying aye.
35:44Okay, motion carries.
35:46We're adjourned at uh 607.