0:06Good evening, everyone.
0:07It is Thursday, October 23rd, 2025, and it is 7.01 p.m.
0:12And tonight's uh session will begin with a prayer from the associate pastor Jesse Danner from Grace Harbor Church.
0:28I acknowledge that you are creator of all things.
0:32You are the one true God.
0:34Your word in the Gospel of John reminds us of this.
0:37It says all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.
0:45I come before you with gratitude, acknowledging that every good and perfect gift comes from you.
0:53You knew what our community would need long before we existed.
0:58And we rest in the assurance of your unfailing love and wisdom.
1:04I live before you the men and women gathered in this chamber, leaders whom you have entrusted with the care in of this city and its people.
1:13Each one is uniquely gifted and called to serve and made in your image.
1:19Grant them wisdom, O Lord, wisdom that is pure, peace loving, and full of mercy.
1:25And so I ask today guide their minds as they deliberate.
1:30Their words as they speak, their hearts as they lead.
1:34Made every decision here be marked with integrity, humility, and compassion.
1:41Seeking not only what is expedient, but what is right and what is good for all.
1:47Bless this city and all that call it home.
1:51May it flourish by your gospel and under your guidance.
1:55May justice, peace, and unity be established in every neighborhood.
2:00I offer this prayer in your holy name.
2:08Thank you, Pastor Danner.
2:10Tonight we're led in the Pledge of Allegiance by Councilor at Large Naomi Carney.
2:20And to the Republic for which it stands.
2:24One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
2:34I just want to note that this meeting is being live streamed and recorded.
2:38City Council and Committee meetings can be viewed on the City of New Bedford's homepage under quick links, then meetings.
2:51I'm joined tonight in the chamber by my colleagues in government, Counselor at Large, Ian Abrew, Ward 2, Counselor Maria Giesta, Ward 1, Counselor Leo Choquette, Ward 5, Counselor, Joseph Lopes, Counselor at Large, Brian Gomes, Ward 6, Counselor Ryan Pereira, Counselor at Large and Second Vice President, Linda Morad, Counselor at Large and First Vice President, Naomi Carney, Ward 3, Counselor Sean Oliver, and Ward 4, Counselor Derek Baptiste.
3:19I'll ask the clerk to read uh the first item under hearings.
3:23President, item one is a hearing from network building and consulting on behalf of Verizon of New England to the location of 145 foot midspan poll and one cable in Hathaway Road near 19 Hathaway Road.
3:37Motion receive and place a file and open the public hearing.
3:40Motion received and place on file and open the public hearing made by Council Oliver.
3:44Seconded by Councilor Giesta.
3:46Anyone on the question?
3:48Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
3:55Thank you, City Council President, and to the council itself.
3:58My name is John Moore.
3:59I'm here to represent Verizon.
4:01This petition is for a mid-span poll on Hathaway Road.
4:07I have a source because they're going to be adding power for a new building that's going there.
4:12So the two polls that are there presently are too long away.
4:15And they'll have to put one in the middle so we can uh make sure that uh all the cabling that's going to be run for the electric and for Verizon itself would be uh within safety, of course.
4:26Chair recognizes Council Oliver on is first.
4:30Um you said it's gonna be for a new building that's going into that.
4:34Yes, I believe there's a new building going there.
4:36And there's been a lot of work there lately, so I don't know if it was something to service what ex is existing now.
4:41So that's no, it's gonna be primarily for just that little area for the new building and obviously for uh buildings that are there now as well.
4:49Um I do agree with you.
4:51I looked at the the map and the polls that they they span pretty far.
4:54Is this gonna be closer to the traffic light?
4:57It's gonna be off of the sidewalk on the side where the building's being built.
5:01And where there's a building there presently now.
5:04All those sidewalks there are brand new.
5:06If uh side rock walk is this uh disrupted, you guys will replace it too.
5:10This mid-span poll is not going to go on the sidewalk.
5:13It's actually going to go in the um the grassy area after the city.
5:16Same it though, if the the sidewalk is is broken, obviously.
5:22Um this is a very very busy intersection.
5:26Uh I would um really like a police detail there and maybe even two because it's it gets very it gets very important.
5:32Absolutely, because those one once they want to uh install that poll, uh they're obviously going to be tying up the traffic on that side street there.
5:39So uh police details uh definitely would be in order.
5:43And we looking for is this just one day?
5:45Uh one day I believe, yes.
5:48Um that's all I have for right now, Mr.
5:50Anyone else from the body?
5:53Chair recognize Council Morat on her first.
6:00No, right now it's just cables that are there right now between the two poles.
6:04So they want to put this mid-span poll where the cabling is because if they add the new electric cables and all the cabling for Verizon and so forth, it'll make those two poles right now a little weaker, what they call uh poll load.
6:19So that's why it's in, you know, obviously for safety reasons why they're putting that mid-span poll there now.
6:24And the two poles that you're connecting to, they're existing.
6:28They're single polls they're not double polls, there's no little pieces attached to them.
6:34To the best of my knowledge, I believe there's single polls.
6:39We have enough double polls.
6:40We have enough double polls everywhere.
6:42Yeah, okay, yeah, all right.
6:43Okay, thank you for answering my question.
6:46Anyone else from the body?
6:52Seeing none, this is a public hearing.
6:55Anyone here wish to speak in favor?
7:00Be recorded in favor, be recorded in favor.
7:05Anyone wish to speak in opposition?
7:10Be recorded in opposition, be recorded in opposition.
7:16Close the public hearing.
7:17Motion to close the public hearing made by Councillor Abreu, seconded by Councilor Oliver.
7:22Anyone on the question of closing the public hearing?
7:25Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
7:30Motion to grant the order as discussed.
7:34Motion to grant the order as presented, made by Councillor Oliver, seconded by Councillor Abrew.
7:39Anyone on the question.
7:42Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
7:50Uh that will bring us to mayor's papers.
7:52I'll ask the clerk to read M1.
7:54President, M1 is a communication from Mayor Mitchell to the council.
7:58Submitting a loan order appropriating 17,421,338 for the purpose of making critically needed repairs to city-owned buildings, including but not limited to projects for the repair and renovation of public safety facilities, recreational facilities, general office space, replacement of capital equipment and vehicles, and roads and infrastructure improvements.
8:21Motion to receive in place on file and adopt the order.
8:26Motion receive in place on file and adopt the order made by Council Pereira.
8:31Seconded by Councillor Abreu.
8:35Council Perron is first.
8:41President and members of and colleagues, I plan on voting no on this item here.
8:45Um as you know, we make motions in the affirmative.
8:48But I I am not supporting a $17.4 million capital improvement plan at this time.
8:55Many months ago, in conversations with members of the administration in his office, uh CO his COO and chief of staff reassured me that we will see a lean CIP.
9:07And now, while the the definition of lean wasn't given, we said, oh, it'll be a couple projects and road repair.
9:13Road rep money for road repair and a couple projects.
9:16Before us tonight is not a lean CIP.
9:19It is the largest CIP in the city's history.
9:24I have made financial decisions leading up to tonight, based upon the assumption that we would see an amount that would be uh uh lower, much lower than we've seen in years past, not much higher.
9:39So I am voting against this tonight.
9:42Send this back and put forward a capital improvement plan of something around six million dollars, seven million dollars.
9:50I'll decide what projects are good in that.
9:52But to sit here and try and cut out over 17 million dollars worth of projects trying to decide that is ridiculous.
10:02When we were told we would receive a lean CIP, not the largest in history.
10:12And I asked my colleagues, Mr.
10:13President, to vote against this tonight.
10:16Chair recognizes Council Choquett on his first day.
10:24Um I just wanted to say that uh a few weeks ago I put in a motion and a request for, in comparison to 17 million, a fairly paltry 100,000 request uh for monies for the Board of Health in the event of an appeal by parallel products.
10:42Um the people award won, this is a very important issue to them.
10:47And so unfortunately, the mayor returned that request unsigned.
10:52And I feel if he can't say yes or no to a request for 100,000, then why should I say yes to 17 million?
11:04Well, it's on there first.
11:08Chair recognizes Councillor Carney on her first.
11:14I'm also a no on this 17 million dollars.
11:19Over the past several CIPs, uh I've asked my colleagues to put a pause on it because I just think that uh that right now with the with the economy and the taxes.
11:31I know it's they stretch it out over a period of time, it's a loan.
11:35But the way I look at it, a loan is a loan.
11:37And every time you take it alone, you do have to pay it back.
11:40So there was something added on every year to the taxpayers when you pay a loan, because we have to pay it back.
11:46$17 million is a little crazy.
11:49When we first started the CIP, it was five million dollars a year.
11:52I was comfortable with five million dollars a year.
11:54But every year I know prices go up, things go up, every year it goes up and up.
11:58But for it to jump this high is ridiculous.
12:02I would vote for something with five million dollars in it, strictly for the roads and sidewalks.
12:08Because our sidewalks are deplorable all the street with the trees are buckled to sidewalks, people trying to walk on sidewalks, and it's not it's not a good situation.
12:16So I would like to see something just for roads and sidewalks, but $17 million, absolutely not.
12:22So I will be voting a no on the $17 million.
12:27Chair recognizes Councillor Morat on her first.
12:32Um, I I don't think it's any surprise that I would support my colleague from Ward 6 and his request to vote no on an absolutely absurd request for $17 million after we just got a $500 million budget request less than three months ago.
12:52This administration and its spending is out of control.
12:55Like my colleague said prior, when we were going through the budget, I was asking some questions as well, because you know, CIP comes every year, and I actually support the concept of uh capital improvement program every year to slowly take care of some of the deferred items in the city that that are targeted that need to be repaired.
13:17And I was told as well that this year's CIP would be very lean.
13:22I guess my definition of lean and someone else's definition of lean is is very different.
13:2717.4 million dollars.
13:30Now I don't know about all of you, but since the mayor put out on his Facebook page how excited he was about sending this to us, I know you've read some of the comments that are out on social media, but I've gotten several calls.
13:44And I was at a ribbon cutting representing the council today, and several people spoke to me.
13:49Taxpayers spoke to me saying, Are you crazy?
13:54Somebody's got to pay this bill.
13:56It might not be me, I'm old, but somebody's got to pay this bill.
14:00This isn't free money.
14:02This is borrowed money.
14:03And look, I'm sure we have the capacity to take this type of loan at this point in time.
14:09We've been frugal about things.
14:13And then you look at the projects.
14:15You know, if it were me submitting an order to all of you asking for you to um approve something, I'd be sitting thinking, okay, how might I get this through?
14:29Well, every year they talk about how they want more road money, they want more road money.
14:34So maybe I'll make it four this year instead of what it was last year, three.
14:38Well, maybe I'll make it five.
14:41It's the same number that it's been.
14:43And the only reason it's three is because a few years ago we refused to pass the CIP unless we put more money in for roads.
14:51And then I start looking, and I hope you will as well, because whether this passes tonight or not, this won't be debated this year.
15:00It'll be debated sometime next year, as as it usually is.
15:02And I I won't be here to be part of your discussion.
15:05But I hope you look, as I do every year, about what you're being asked to fund.
15:11Because in this year, because many ye many times it's the first segment of a long-term project.
15:20That's freaking expensive.
15:22And uh what I get concerned about is what's happening this year in the CIP.
15:28This year, there's a request for $150,000 for the Z.
15:38They just put through a $38 million capital improvement program, and they need $750,000 to bring the building to code.
15:49That's what it says.
15:51To bring the building to code?
15:54You just got $38, $37 million.
15:56You couldn't bring the building to code.
15:58And what I've heard is, oh, well, this is the second phase of what you committed in a prior CIP.
16:05You have to keep an eye on that because that's gonna come back to bite you.
16:10And I sure hope you don't give the Z 750,000 after just having given them 495,000, they're not even operating.
16:18You gave them 495,000 to operate, and now they want 750 to bring the building to code.
16:23But I say that because there's many projects like that in this year's CIP.
16:29It's 17 million this year.
16:31But when you look at 27, 28, 29, the total is huge.
16:37Look at some of the projects.
16:39So you want to make sure, and I want to make sure that when we're doing this, we're not only planning for this year, and we're not gonna give them 17 million, but we're not just planning for this year.
16:48You're planning for what you're gonna face in prior in upcoming years.
16:52And the numbers are big, and the taxpayers have to pay the loan.
16:58My colleague to my right is right.
17:00It's probably not paying it this year, but you're gonna pay it eventually.
17:04That's what these are, and they have to be paid back.
17:07So this administration's out of control.
17:10This is another problem of the four-year mayor term.
17:13Um, this administration is out of control.
17:16They don't care about putting their hand in your pocket, taxpayers of the city.
17:21And I'm really glad that people are paying attention.
17:24And as I said, maybe some of you have heard from your constituency.
17:28Uh, the gentleman that spoke to me today at the ribbon cutting was vehement about not doing this, not putting this kind of burden.
17:35And he said the same thing.
17:37I understand some things need to be done, but this is ridiculous, and this is way too much.
17:43So I'll be voting no.
17:44Uh, probably the only chance I'll have to vote no on this particular CIP.
17:49But when you're debating it next year, I'll be in your ear.
17:52I'll be a resident at a taxpayer then.
17:56The chair recognizes Councillor April on his first.
18:00Thank you very much, Mr.
18:01What all the points that my colleagues had had raised before uh you recognized me are all well placed and well put, and uh many of those comments I was going to echo, but also too, it's concerning to me is I've heard from maybe my colleagues have as well, but a couple of different department heads, and of course I'm not gonna name any names, I won't put them out there tonight, but I've heard from a few different department heads telling me that they had no idea that these allocations were being proposed to their particular departments.
18:32That should alarm everybody in this room and alarm the taxpayers of New Bedford, where allocating funds to certain departments, and we're not sitting down with the experts of that department who run that department to find out what his or her needs are and discussing what said needs are and what their thoughts are about these allocations.
18:56That to me is just totally insane.
18:58Uh I'm in my wrapping up my about my tenth year now.
19:02I've never heard of that or seen that before.
19:05Um that's very concerning.
19:08We're putting forth over 17 million dollars worth of initiatives, and there are several department heads that didn't know this was coming down the pike.
19:17They find out about this through mayor's papers or through a press release.
19:20Is that appropriate?
19:21Is that how things are getting done?
19:24I I'm pretty shocked.
19:25I don't know if anyone heard the same story.
19:27They want to back up or corroborate my story, but I'm sticking to it because that's what I'm being told.
19:32Why would these department heads lie?
19:34They're not gonna lie, that's what they're telling me.
19:36So that's very disconcerting to me.
19:39Uh I too will vote no to send this back because now's not the right time for this, in my opinion.
19:44Roads, infrastructure, public safety, absolutely, we can make the case.
19:50Supporting the men and women of our police department, fire department, and our infrastructure department, our DPI to tune up our roads and sidewalks.
20:00Everything else can wait, in my opinion.
20:04I mean playground improvements.
20:09I mean, we can just go on and on.
20:10Like these are all cool and great things.
20:13And I have children and I love my kids and we all love the kids of the city.
20:17We want them to have brand new playgrounds.
20:20I want them to have brand new playgrounds too, but what we have is fine for now.
20:24And it's just, I'm looking through this, and a lot of this is just pie in the sky at this time, in my opinion.
20:29So let's send it back.
20:31Let's get to the table.
20:33Let's get a real number back here and let's have that discussion about what's wants versus needs.
20:41Let's get the needs to the table.
20:42Let's have a hearing on the needs, and then we can vote and deliberate accordingly.
20:47So with that, I'll yield Mr.
20:49Thank you for the time.
20:51Councilor Gomes on his first.
20:56Can I just catch my breath for a minute?
20:58Because it was very emotional just now.
21:03President, been here a long time.
21:06Biggest CIPA I see coming at us.
21:10This is what happens when you give a four-year mayoral term.
21:13This is what happens when you think that you just do what you want and it doesn't matter.
21:19You know, the funniest thing is some of these things in here.
21:22I don't see a problem with them right now.
21:25I don't see that they have to be replaced.
21:28So I'm in agreement.
21:30There's nothing much more that can say than what's already said.
21:34Um let's see what um you can come up with that is in range of what we need.
21:39Um there's a lot of roads to be done in this city.
21:44You can do church street, you can do these streets that are being done.
21:48There's even some streets that have been torn up that shouldn't have been torn up.
21:52But I guess it's good.
21:53It's good for the voting people that are out there.
21:56You understand what I'm saying, Mr.
21:58President Street like Illinois, did not have to be taken up if you ever traveled on them.
22:02If you travel throughout the city, you'll know the streets that need to be done and don't need to be done.
22:07But that was torn up.
22:09Let's send this back, Mr.
22:11Take a look at this and realize what you are doing to the people.
22:15Because one thing I'm going to tell you right now is that you can keep putting the bills on the people.
22:21You'll walk out the door.
22:23You won't worry about the people or what you leave behind.
22:27All you're worried about is what you can put in front of you.
22:30And I don't know no congressional office, no office statewide, countrywide, that's going to reflect on um spending CIP money and what you're doing in the city of New Bedford, because you're really putting people into a situation that is not good.
22:48I know you've been out there just as many of us going throughout the city in the time that it is.
22:54And what is what what are people talking about?
22:57Taxes, taxes, taxes.
23:01They don't like all that other jive either.
23:02They don't like the crime, they don't like this, they don't like that, but the taxes.
23:10We've been through this before.
23:12They start spreading across the city because people cannot take it.
23:17Mayor, send us a small CIP with the right stuff in it that needs to be taken care of immediately in this city, not ACIP that you're just throwing money around and you can't even prove to me that that money is gone where you say it's going.
23:35Anyone else on there first?
23:38Seeing none, the chair recognizes Council Chicago on his second.
23:44Whether you live in Ward 1, 5, 6, Dartmouth, Westport, wherever.
23:50If you think the roads are bad now, imagine what the roads look like with 250 dump truck trips a day coming in.
23:57That's what'll happen if parallel products appeals and we don't have the money to help get outside legal counsel for the Board of Health.
24:06Mayor, why did you return my request unsigned?
24:10The people award one deserve better leadership.
24:13I am not going anywhere, and I am not going to shut up.
24:16So you're not getting any money from my vote until you give the people award one a hundred thousand dollars to the Board of Health so that we can have proper legal representation.
24:28And that's what I'm here to say.
24:33Anyone else on their first?
24:37Anyone on their second?
24:40Seeing none, the motion before us is a motion to adopt the order.
24:46And I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
24:50No, Council Baptiste.
24:58No, Council Chiesta.
25:15I'll ask the clerk now to read item M2 under Mr.
25:19Consider taking M2 through M4 together.
25:22Without objection, I'll ask the clerk to read M2 through M4 together.
25:27President, M2 is communication from Mayor Mitchell to the Council.
25:30Submitting a loan order appropriating 21,865,465 for acceler for accelerated accelerated repair projects at the Sergeant William Carney Memorial Academy, Hayden McFadden Elementary School, and Casmir of Colasky Elementary School.
25:46M2A is the loan order.
25:49M3 is a communication from the mayor to the council.
25:52Submitting a loan order appropriating $7,911,603 for accelerated repair projects at the LNG Campbell Elementary School, Ellen R.
26:02Hatway Elementary School, and Carlos Pachico Elementary School.
26:07And M4 is a communication from the mayor to the council.
26:10Submitting the loan order appropriating 200,000 to pay the costs of a schematic design feasibility study as required by the MSBA with respect to the proposed accelerated repairs to the Trinity Day Academy and M4A is the loan order.
26:24Motion receive and place on file items M2 through M4 and refer to the Committee on Finance.
26:31Motion receive and place on file M2 through M4 in the loan orders to the Committee on Finance made by Councilor Morad, seconded by Councilor Lopes.
26:42Anyone on the question?
26:45Seeing none, all those in favor on referral to finance say aye.
26:51I'll ask the clerk to read M5.
26:54President, M5 is a communication from Mayor Mitchell to the Council.
26:57Submitting a resolution adopting the 2025 City of New Bedford multi-hazard mitigation plan and 5A is the resolution.
27:05Motion receive and place on file and refer to the environmental affairs committee.
27:11Motion to receive and place on file and refer to the environmental affairs committee made by Council Morrad, seconded by Councilor Gomes.
27:18Anyone on the question?
27:19Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
27:25I'll ask the clerk to read M6.
27:29Excuse me, is a communication from the mayor to the council.
27:32Submitting an order that in accordance with Section 19-7C of the New Bedford City Code of Ordinances, the Mayor is hereby authorized to advertise negotiate the salary of and higher between now and March 1st of 2026 for the position of executive finance and operation manager in the auditor's office.
27:51Motion receive and place on file, refer to the committee on finance.
27:55Motion received and place on file and referred to the committee on finance made by Council Morrad, seconded by Councillor Gomes.
28:01Anyone on the question?
28:03Seeing none, all those in favor are on the referral to committee to finance.
28:11I'll ask clerk to read M7.
28:13President, M7 is a communication from the mayor to the council.
28:16Submitting an order for the transfer of 1076 dollars from fire code enforcement reserve for appropriation to fire other charges and expenses.
28:29Motion to adopt made by Council Pereira, seconded by Councillor Gomes.
28:33Anyone on the question of adoption?
28:38All those in favor say aye.
28:42I'll ask the clerk to read M8.
28:45President, M eight is communication from the mayor to the council.
28:48Submitting the appointment of Daniel Higgins of New Bedford, Massachusetts to the election commission, placing Lisa Dunaway, who has resigned.
28:55And this term will expire in April of 2029.
28:58Motion received the place on file and sent to the committee on appointments and briefings.
29:03Motion to receive and place on file and refer to the committees on appointments and briefing made by Councilor Oliver, seconded by Council Morad.
29:09Anyone on the question?
29:12Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
29:17President, under tabled business.
29:21Related communication dated 1009-2025.
29:26Remove from the table, wave the reading and take no further action.
29:30Motion made by Council Morad to remove tabled item 109 2025 from the table.
29:37Wave the reading and take no further action.
29:40Seconded by Council Oliver.
29:42All those in favor say aye.
29:50Sorry, just documenting.
29:52And that will bring us to M9.
29:56President, M9 is communication from Mayor Mitchell to the City Council.
30:00President, M9 is a communication from Mayor Mitchell to the City Council submitting the appointment of Cheryl Ann Viveris of New Bedford, Massachusetts to the traffic commission, replacing Angela Johnson, whose term has expired in December of 2024.
30:09This term will expire in December of 2027.
30:12Motion received and place on file sent to the committee on appointments and briefings.
30:15Motion is motion received and place on file and refer to the committee on appointments and briefings made by Council Oliver, seconded by Councillor Carney.
30:22Anyone on the question?
30:24Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
30:30I'll ask the clerk to read item two.
30:34President, item two is a report from the committee on finance recommending to the council adoption of the order for the transfer of 132,572 from police purchase of services to MIS Purchase of Services 2A is the order.
30:48Motion receive in place on file.
30:50The report of the committee on finance, follow the recommendation and adopt the order as presented.
30:56Motion receive in place on file and follow the report from the committee on finance and adopt the order as presented, made by council Morad, seconded by Councillor Gomes.
31:06Anyone on the question?
31:08Seeing none, I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
31:11Yes, Council Baptiste.
31:31That passes 11 to 0.
31:33I will ask the clerk now to read item 3.
31:37President, item 3 is a report from the Committee on Finance recommending to the Council adoption of the order that pursuant to the provisions of Mass General Laws, Chapter 40, Section 5B to establish a stabilization fund to be called take cable television public education and government access stabilization fund 3A is the order.
31:56Motion to adopt the order.
31:58Motion to adopt the order made by Council Pereira, seconded by Councilor Baptiste.
32:02Anyone on the question.
32:04Seeing none, I'll ask the clerk to call the roll.
32:31I'll ask the clerk to read item 4.
32:34Item 4 is a report from the Committee on Finance.
32:37Recommended to the Council adoption of the order for the appropriation of $750,000 from ordinary revenue and municipal receipts to health insurance purchase of services.
32:48Motion to adopt the order.
32:49Motion to adopt made by Council Pereira, seconded by Councillor Abru.
32:53Anyone on the question?
32:55Chair recognized Council Morat on her first.
33:00I just rise to explain to the taxpayer why my vote will be no.
33:07We're three months into the fiscal year.
33:10This is the cut that the council made.
33:12I saw the numbers that were sent to us.
33:15I'm sure you all did as well regarding the health care costs for three months.
33:21I'm not sure this is the right time to put $750,000 back into the health care line item.
33:28And when you do that, obviously you'll be affecting the tax rate that we're about to set next month.
33:33So I know that this is going to pass because it passed in finance.
33:38I was the lone vote.
33:39But um I'm sorry to see us doing this at this point in time.
33:43If this was February or March, um, you know, maybe I'd say okay, I support that out of free cash, but I don't support it on the back of the taxpayer at this point in time.
33:53So um my vote will be no, and I hope the taxpayer um is listening and maybe some of you will be as well.
34:02Anyone else on there first seeing none?
34:07I'll ask the clerk to call the roll on adoption.
34:12Yes, Council Baptiste.
34:14Yes, yes, Council Burgo.
34:19No, Council Schulkett.
34:21Yes, Council Gestin.
34:33No, Council Pereira.
34:40I'll ask the clerk to read it five.
34:45Is it possible to take items five, five A, six, and six A together?
34:52Wave the reading and refer the items per the recommendation of the Committee on Finance to the audit committee.
35:03Motion made by Council Morris, seconded by Councillor Gomes to waive the reading of items five and five A and six and six A and refer to the audit committee and follow the recommendation made.
35:14All those in favor of the question.
35:16Oh, sorry, on the question.
35:17Uh, Chair recognizes Council Morat on the question.
35:20President, thank you.
35:21And I want to thank the Chair of Audit, my colleague who sits directly behind me for agreeing to see this.
35:30President and my colleagues, um, this was on the finance agenda last Thursday night.
35:35We were hoping to have a robust discussion about where the 250,000 that the City Council appropriated back some time ago to fight the parallel products uh project went, how the money was spent, uh, what invoices there were from the law firm, etc.
35:55My colleague from Ward 5 thinks there might be an additional appropriation that he's researching as well.
36:01And I think it's appropriate that the um administration speak to the city council and to the residents of Ward 1 and the city as to where where this money was and how it was spent, especially since we know that a memorandum of understanding was authorized by the administration, um, not with the support of this council, and there was an agreement made with the developer regarding this project, and I'm hoping that what we're being told when we get to audit committee is this money which was appropriated to fight the parallel products project, wasn't used to do a handshake with them so that they cut a different deal with the City of New Bedford.
36:48And as do in doing that, um, as my colleagues may know, I know you know, Mr.
36:53President, as the Chair of Finance, I set my agendas a month in advance.
37:00And as a courtesy to those that we're inviting, I always send a message myself, not the office, saying next finance meeting is and there's an item on the agenda that we'd like you to come for.
37:11I want to make sure it's on your calendar well in advance.
37:14And I sent that message out as I always do a month before the meeting last week, and I heard crickets from anybody saying I can't make it.
37:22But the day before the meeting, uh the representative from the administration, Neil Mello, sent a message, not to the chair, but to the council office.
37:32Why would he do that?
37:33To the council office and told the council office that he would be unable to make it.
37:38So I pushed back and said exactly what I just said to you.
37:42I sent this out a month ago.
37:44You didn't say anything.
37:44Hey, I understand stuff comes up.
37:48And then he proceeded to tell me who was going to represent who was going to speak on this item to give us an update.
37:56Well, I invited you.
37:58I didn't invite, I invited other people because there's other questions those people can ask.
38:02But I'm inviting you as the spokesperson of the represent of the administration to tell us how you authorize this money.
38:11Bob Ekstrom didn't authorize this money to go somewhere.
38:14Eric Jakes didn't authorize somewhere to go.
38:17Quinlan Louney didn't do that.
38:19This was done by the administration.
38:20I'm asking you to come here and tell us why you spent the money the way you spent it and how you thought it was appropriate to do that.
38:29So I don't have the power to make him come to committee, and he did not come as you know last week.
38:35But as I always say when I speak about Neil Mellow, he certainly went to Dartmouth and spent four hours in the Dartmouth Select Board meeting talking to them about how their project for the business park on Hathaway Road wouldn't affect traffic in Dartmouth, but he can't come here and talk to the City Council.
38:53He can't be responsible to the taxpayers of the city of New Bedford.
38:57So we'll send it to audit, and the chairman's agreed to hear it promptly.
39:01And if we are not given the answers we need, or if Mr.
39:06Mellow decides his presence isn't required, we can utilize the powers that are in the audit committee to make them appear.
39:14And you know, one of the comments he made to me is oh, these people can speak, these people can speak.
39:18But I don't know about you.
39:20Oftentimes when I talk to department heads in the city about policies of the administration, they always tell me about that phrase that the administration says to them.
39:31They always tell me that they're told that's above your pay grade.
39:36So certainly the questions we were going to ask about this would be not appropriate for Bob Ekstrom, Eric Jakes, or Quinlan Louny to answer.
39:46And certainly we wouldn't want them to be in trouble because they answered questions that were above their pay grade.
39:56Anyone else on there first?
40:00Seeing none, the motion at hand is on referring items 5, 5a, 6, and 6a to the committee on audit.
40:06All those in favor say aye.
40:14If I could get a motion from the floor to waive the reading of items 7 through 8A and take no further action.
40:22Motion made by Councilor Loeb, seconded by Councillor Carney.
40:25All those in favor say aye.
40:31All right, and I will ask the clerk to read item nine.
40:35President Item 9 is written motion from Councillor Gomes requesting that Mayor Mitchell and Police Chief Vote and consider immediately filling vacant positions within the New Bedford Police Department, including the Deputy Chief position, the North End Captain position, and several sergeant positions.
40:50These leadership positions are needed for the successful operation of the New Bedford Police Department.
40:56Refer to the Committee on Public Safety and Neighborhoods, the man, Chief Dorty.
41:02Motion made by Councillor Gomes to refer to the Committee on Public Safety and Neighborhoods.
41:06Mayor Mitchell and the police chiefs though.
41:08He's seconded by Councillor Choquette.
41:10Chair recognizes Councillor Gomes on his first.
41:15President, these positions have been gone too long, not being filled.
41:20I understand them numbers within the department, but we also have to have the leadership to run the department.
41:27And when you don't have a captain in the North and you don't have server sergeants that are needed, you're not running a good ship.
41:33You got one captain, I think running the whole down city.
41:57As they climb up the ladder, this should have the opportunity, not um for us to um change the structure.
42:05And many of you know what I'm talking about in this building.
42:08But um these positions need to be filled.
42:10Let's let's fill them.
42:12Uh especially um the high ranking positions.
42:15In order to run a good department, you must have these positions, and these positions should be filled.
42:21You asked me in the CIP for money for the North and station.
42:25I think that's what I seen.
42:27Station three was like a million something for what?
42:31You got the door damn locked.
42:32What do you want money for for up there?
42:35You gotta ring a doorbell to get in.
42:37That same old job that we were doing back in 2001 or whatever when they were closing the stations then and we're standing up here and they're gonna put a button to call for help.
42:46That I really want my daughter pushing a button up there to get help when I got officers that are assisting or on calls in other places.
42:54But it really cracks me up.
42:56Where are the priorities around here?
42:59Let's fill these positions.
43:01The department needs that leadership.
43:03Thank you very much.
43:06Anyone else on there first?
43:09Seeing none again, this is a motion on referring uh to the committee on public safety and neighborhoods, Mayor Mitchell and the Chief of Police.
43:19All those in favor say aye.
43:21Any opposed, the ayes have it.
43:23I'll ask the clerk to read item 10.
43:25President, item 10 is a written motion from Councillor Loebs requesting on behalf of the family of Elaine Lima that the special committee on memorials and dedications consider a suitable memorial to honor Mrs.
43:35Lima's continued support of the City of New Bedford and the downtown business community.
43:40Motion to receive and place on the file and refer to the committee on memorials and dedication.
43:44Motion receive and place on file and refer to the special committee on memorials and dedication made by Councillor Lopes, seconded by Councillor Carney.
43:52Anyone on the question?
43:53Motion speaks for itself, Council President.
43:56Seeing that, all those in favor say aye.
44:01I'll ask the clerk to read item 11.
44:05President, item 11 is a written motion.
44:08Requesting that pursuant to mass general law in Chapter 44, Section 33 in the City Council, after having made request of the mayor on September 25th, 2025 and said requested funds having not been appropriated by the mayor after seven days of said request.
44:23Make appropriation of 100,000 for the special purpose of providing funds to the Board of Health to acquire independent legal representation for the anticipated appeal of its decision to reject the South Coast Renewables Parallel Products Project due to the City Solicitor's Office having a potential conflict resulting from the mayor's agreement with the company to not contest the company's proposed project and location.
44:46Motion to accept and place on file and adopt as presented.
44:51Motion receive and place on file and adopt the adopt as presented, made by Councillor Choquette, seconded by Councillor Abrew.
45:00Chair recognizes Council Chicago on his first.
45:06So just to give everyone a a quick heads up here.
45:10Apparently we have until October 31st until Parallel Products reaches their deadline for filing an appeal.
45:17If I were a betting person, I would assume that they are going to file the appeal.
45:22Right now we don't know if we have enough money or if we have any money in the legal fund to battle this potential appeal.
45:31Again, this is one of the most important issues in the history of Ward 1 in the North End.
45:36Why did my request come back unsigned?
45:41So the beauty of representative democracy is that according to Mass General Law, Chapter 44, Section 33.
45:48The City Council will now make that appropriation.
45:52And the mayor does not have to worry about that anymore.
45:55And we thank him for his participation in this matter.
46:01And also I would like a roll call vote on this item, please.
46:07Anyone else on their first?
46:10Anyone on their second?
46:12Seeing none, a roll call has been requested.
46:20Yes, Council Carney.
46:22Yes, Council Shulkett.
46:26Yes, Council Golmes.
46:27On behalf of the people of Wardborn, yes.
46:40I'll ask the clerk to read item 12.
46:45President, item 12 is a communication from Councillor Lopes.
46:48Submitting petition signed by city residents regarding the number of sober homes, group homes, and rooming houses being established in residential areas of the city.
46:56Motion to receive and place on file the communication.
46:58Motion is place on file made by Councillor Lopes, seconded by Councillor Carney.
47:03Anyone on the question?
47:04Chair recognized Councillor Lopes on his first.
47:07Thank you, Council President.
47:09So I feel sorry for the council office because I asked them to make copies of over 2,000 and 47 signatures of residents not in Ward 5, but residents across the entire city of New Bedford that have concerns and reservations, not about giving help to those that need it, but the unregulated sober homes that are across the city.
47:34So one constituent in Ward 5 took it upon herself to literally go door to door, sit outside grocery stores, and get over 2,000 signatures.
47:47Her petition is basically simple.
47:49It's asking that the administration and both our State and Federal delegation look at how these are regulated.
47:56Because right now in the Commodore, Massachusetts, they're not regulated.
47:59People can go get a volunteer certificate that they're meeting the requirements.
48:05But the ones that we're talking about aren't doing any tests to see if somebody's reusing.
48:10They're not doing any services to help somebody stay on the right track to move from a sober house to transitional housing.
48:18You know, we have one in my ward that has been a nuisance for over a year, which began the initiation of these signatures.
48:28And it started out just as the ward five issue, but I give her all the credit in the world.
48:33She knew it was more of a citywide issue, and she gathered the signatures.
48:36And the council office took it, you know, and I gave it to them, and I I literally apologize because they had to make copies of over 2,000 signatures of concerned residents that live across the city that want to see something happen.
48:51Not to not provide care, but provide the proper and right care for those that need it.
48:58Anyone else on there first?
49:00Chair recognize Councillor Carney on her first.
49:06Um I stand up to support my colleague here from Ward 5.
49:10Yes, these sober homes are not sober homes, they are rooming houses, they are money grabs.
49:16The ones we are talking about.
49:18We're not talking about the ones that are licensed, the ones that have clinicians, the ones that have 24-hour services, and staff on site.
49:27Those are the ones we're talking about.
49:29The ones we're talking about are the money grabs, and there's plenty of them out there.
49:33They're coming into the city, they're taking these big homes, they're taking them and putting rooms in there, they're putting many, many excuse me, uh, men in these houses in residential neighborhoods without any oversight whatsoever.
49:47It's a bad situation all around, and they need to be regulated.
49:52So I have been working on a resolution to send to the Federal Government to establish rules and regulations on sober homes for not only New Bedford, but for the State of Massachusetts and all over the place, because this is popping up everywhere.
50:08We don't need a money grab.
50:09If you want to help people, let's truly help people.
50:12Let's get clinicians, doctors, 24-hour care for them, and let's do what we're supposed to do to help the people and get rid of these stinking sober homes that are just money grabs.
50:21Thank you so much, Mr.
50:24Anyone else on there first?
50:26Anyone on their second?
50:28Point of information, Mr.
50:29Through you to the maker of the motion.
50:32I know it's a communication received in place on file.
50:35Is it going anywhere?
50:36Are we doing anything with this?
50:40Due to the work that went into it to refer it to the administration or to other people to require more copies of all of the signatures.
50:48I am going to I've scheduled a meeting with the administration to have a conversation with him in regards to the work that was done to gather all the signatures, and we'll take it from there with the one-on-one conversation with the administration.
51:02And I've also reached out to our state delegation, making them aware of the work that was done.
51:10Anyone else on there first?
51:13Anyone on their second?
51:16The motion is just to receive and place on file the communication.
51:19All those in favor say aye.
51:24I'll ask the clerk to read item 13.
51:27President, item 13 is communication from Manuel De Brito, Board of Election Commissioners to the City Council submitting the municipal election warrant for Tuesday, November 4th, 2025.
51:37This warrant has been signed by the majority of the city council and will be posted on the seventh day prior to the election date as mandated by Mass General Law, Chapter 43, Section 44A.
51:48A copy of this warrant will be posted at each polling location.
51:51Motion receiver placed on file.
51:53Motion received and place on file made by Councillor Abrew, seconded by Councilor Baptiste.
51:57Anyone on the question?
52:01No, I'm just kidding.
52:04All those in favor say aye.
52:09I'll ask the clerk to read item 14.
52:12President Item 14 is a communication from Dennis Ferries, City Clerk, Clerk of the Council.
52:17Submitting a copy of a certificate and a handwritten instrument from Mass DOT, informing that on September 24th, 2025, the Mass DOT Highway Division altered the location of a section of interstate Route 195 in New Bedford.
52:30See opposite action.
52:32Motion received and place on file made by Councilor Abrew.
52:35Seconded by Councilor Oliver.
52:36Anyone on the question?
52:39Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
52:44Motion to take up consent.
52:46Motion to take up and adopt consent made by Councillor Baptiste.
52:50Seconded by Councilor Oliver.
52:52Anyone on the question?
52:53Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
53:00Motion to adjourn made by Councilor Oliver.
53:03Seconded by Councilor Baptiste.
53:05Anyone on the question of adjournment?
53:07Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.
53:11We are adjourned at 7 54 p.m.
53:15Please come forward.
53:17We need at least five other signatures for the uh