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Committee on Appointments and Briefings Meeting - December 9, 2025

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7:03

Testing one two three, testing one, two, three.

7:10

Okay.

7:13

Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the committee on appointments and briefings.

7:17

It's December 9th to 2025 and it is six.

7:28

Ian April.

8:00

I have one letter to read into the record.

8:01

It's from Councillor Choquette.

8:03

I am writing to inform you that regretfully I will be unable to attend the committee on appointments and briefings meeting on Tuesday, December 9th, 2025, due to an out-of-town business commitment.

8:13

Please read this letter into the record to make my colleagues and the public aware of the reason of my absence.

8:24

Second by Councillor Oliver.

8:25

All in favor say aye.

8:26

Aye.

8:27

I suppose the eyes have it.

8:54

It was heard and then tabled on February eighteenth.

9:15

The ayes have it, it's probably before us.

10:09

As you may recall very briefly, we've been trying to get the social equity policy approved by the Cannabis Control Commission going back to August.

10:21

It's still not been approved, but last week they said we could proceed with an HCA.

10:28

As a result of that, I spoke to the administration, and the mayor has indicated he is happy to open a new round of applications limited solely to social equity applicants.

10:47

However, the House of Diesel is not the only social equity applicant that has approached the planning board over the last few years with the intention of submitting an application.

11:05

And as you know, the planning board did not accept any of those applications.

11:11

So the planning board will be accepting only from social equity applicants.

11:20

Applications for a host community agreement.

11:25

But the administration believes that it is not appropriate when there is more than one applicant to grant it to one particular applicant that has been pressing for a license.

11:41

It should be an open and equitable application.

11:45

If you don't mind, I don't mean to interrupt you and I don't mean to disrespect you in any way.

11:49

Hasn't this been going on for a while?

11:51

When did this all come into play that um we had other players in the game and that we're gonna now we're gonna open this all up?

11:59

So what you're telling me tonight is that this organization has to reapply all over again.

12:06

They have to submit their application as soon as we open the round.

12:11

We will have a definitive period of time to accept them.

12:15

There will be other applicants.

12:17

We're aware of at least one other application that was turned down because we weren't accepting applications in the same way that House of Diesel's application was not accepted, and there is at least one other, a third applicant who had made numerous inquiries and been told we aren't currently accepting applications.

12:40

So now we are going to accept applications.

12:44

The difficult thing, Counselor, and I recognize it, is the CCC has imposed a deadline that affects the House of Diesel financially.

12:57

But this problem is created greatly by the CCC.

13:03

They haven't responded me to me since August.

13:07

They finally responded last week and said, yep, you can do this backwards.

13:15

Go ahead and do an HCA, and we'll look at the HME CME after the fact.

13:22

That came out eight days before the deadline for this grant application that I understand the House of Diesel is asking for.

13:31

That is not the administration's problem.

13:34

The problem is you have a state agency that hasn't been doing its job for the last four months.

13:42

And as you recall at the last meeting, even the nice folks at House of Diesel acknowledged that the CCC can't get its acting gear.

13:57

Okay.

13:58

I'm going to yield for a minute.

14:01

Okay.

14:02

Council Baptiste.

14:05

Thank you, Madam Chair.

14:06

How are you doing, Councillor Jakes?

14:10

The only issue I have with this is other people are going to benefit for the work that they put in.

14:17

Right.

14:18

So I didn't see anybody else come and work this hard to make sure that any of this stuff got passed before us when they got denied because they didn't have application and didn't take no financing and just kept moving through.

14:38

You guys probably wouldn't even have looked into it if they didn't press the issue.

14:44

It wouldn't have even been an issue in your office.

14:47

And it wasn't an issue in your office because it got delayed and pushed to the side and put on the shelf uh I don't know some time.

14:56

So that was even disrespectful to the applicants itself.

15:00

But I don't I don't know why we can't make a special um, you know, seeing the hard work that they put in and what they did and just uh understanding giving them at least first dibs at when them applications come out.

15:14

Like it's if it wasn't for them, them them other applicants wouldn't even be able to apply.

15:22

Because you want to have looked through it and it wouldn't have gotten done.

15:25

So I is there I don't I don't I know there's probably no way you have to do it fair and square, but you know, I I I think for all the work that these people have done and pressing the issue to make sure it got done, you know, everybody else gets to benefit, and they might not benefit from what they worked for, and somebody else might, you know.

15:44

Depends on who kisses the right book, you know.

15:48

Get the deal over somebody.

15:50

But I yield the floor.

15:52

Thank you, Council Baptiste.

15:55

I just want to let it known that to Council Pereira for more six has joined us.

15:59

Thank you, Council Pereira.

16:04

May I have the floor again?

16:06

Yeah, yes.

16:06

Thank you, Madam Chairman.

16:07

So where do we go from here?

16:10

The House of Deeds.

16:12

Could I could uh um you know the administration often talk uh um you know sings that song about um uh you know working together to move the city along and everything?

16:22

We have been trying to work with um this uh organization simply because I think that they were sidelined.

16:28

They would just sideline.

16:30

When was the last time we had a cannabis meeting or the administration call that I can't tell you that off the counselor?

16:38

You can't tell me that.

16:39

That's a planning item, and I don't know off the top of my head.

16:42

Anyway, it it just seems like uh just a continue roadblock, continue robot.

16:47

Is there any further explanation why we couldn't give that temporary um application uh uh interesting by the administration?

16:58

We will receive the application, but we will receive it along with at least one other, if not two other applications that we know will be coming in because this round is being opened.

17:10

We would as counselor well, as Counselor Baptist has just said, um, where does this put the House of Diesel now?

17:18

Um it's just it it's almost like a checkers game.

17:21

We're moving, but it it's not in the in in their favor because now you tell me about two new applicants.

17:27

They have to apply again.

17:28

The administration decides on on who they want, and it's not the House of Diesel.

17:34

Uh I'm not gonna be a happy campy here.

17:36

And uh I'm sure the organization isn't.

17:38

And uh the fight came here because of the non-response from everybody.

17:44

And I understand about the CCC, but we given an avenue that could possibly give these people some money back for what they have been through, the rents that they have paid and continue to work at this.

17:54

And I don't have an administration that has an appetite to help anybody in any way, but we help some others.

18:01

And now I'm gonna keep my mouth shut because see, I start getting a little you know, I want to talk about some other things that move along real quick.

18:11

Again, I'm gonna take a breather.

18:13

Maybe somebody else has a question they want to answer, but I do want to hear from the consultants from the diesel company.

18:19

Thank you.

18:20

Council Moran.

18:22

Madam Chair.

18:22

Solicitor Jakes, how many host community agreements is the administration looking to grant?

18:29

In this round, they would grant a minimum of one.

18:33

Under the SEP, the process is the grant, one equity application, and then the next application is open to anyone, and then you go back to one SEP application again.

18:50

It's a one-to-one ratio, or 50 percent, then 50 percent until we reach the maximum amount that the city is allowed to issue.

19:01

So in this round, it's not just um social equity applications we're accepting, we're accepting all applications.

19:08

That is incorrect, counselor.

19:10

Well, I'm that's what I'm asking.

19:11

The policy said that say whether I was correct or incorrect, I asked the question.

19:15

I'm sorry.

19:16

Yep.

19:16

The policy as written and subject to approval by the CCC says we will for the next six months only accept SEP applicants, and that the next application that is granted for an HCA will be an SCP.

19:37

So the very next license grant, the next HCA will absolutely go to a social equity applicant.

19:46

I understood that.

19:47

The question is, is there gonna be two accepted in this round?

19:52

One that is and one that isn't?

19:54

What's the administration's plan?

19:55

That's what I'm asking.

19:57

I don't know because we haven't seen it, and we're only opening this round to SEP applicants.

20:02

That's it.

20:03

Only SCP.

20:04

Granting one.

20:05

No matter whether we get ten applications, we're granting one.

20:09

We're granting at least one.

20:11

Yeah, I agree.

20:12

It will be an SEP.

20:14

I heard you say at least one, but I'm asking only one?

20:17

I don't know that.

20:19

We will grant at least one and it will be an SP in this round.

20:25

So you've had no conversation with the administration about accepting two SEP applications in this round.

20:34

It's a one-to-one ratio code.

20:37

This round is SEP.

20:39

It'll be one.

20:40

The next round will be SEP and others, and it could be an SCP applicant in the second round.

20:48

And what's the goal for the second round?

20:51

Time-wise.

20:53

I don't know.

20:54

We're dealing with this round now.

20:57

All right.

20:58

Thank you, Madam Chair.

20:59

Thank you, Council Murat.

21:01

Uh from the Chair, if you don't mind.

21:03

What is the process now?

21:05

You said you had a couple of applicants that have reached out to the office and it was turned down because they weren't accepting it.

21:13

So how are we going to move forward?

21:16

Are we advertising?

21:17

What is the next step with the mayor's office?

21:22

The planning staff will reach out to all candidates that identify themselves as a social equity candidate and say, we're accepting applications now.

21:37

If you wish, please apply.

21:39

Those that have not identified themselves as a social equity applicant, the planning staff will reach out and ask the question whether they qualify as a social equity applicant.

21:55

And if they do, they will be encouraged to apply.

22:03

New language put into the website for the planning board that indicates that only SEP candidates may apply in this round.

22:17

So what is the timeline of this round?

22:21

It could be as soon as next week.

22:24

When can we find out whether it's going to be as soon as next week?

22:28

It's a case of my speaking to Mr.

22:31

McCarthy and planning and determining how quickly he can do that.

22:35

I wanted to get through this evening's meeting before I followed up with Mr.

22:40

McCarthy because I expected there would be questions of the council.

22:45

And how long is this new language going to take?

22:49

It's only a couple words.

22:50

This language we've been playing around with language.

22:54

It will be one or two paragraphs that I assume are put on the planning website.

22:59

I expect it can be done relatively quickly with follow-up phone calls by the planning board.

23:06

I'm sorry, by the planning staff.

23:10

Okay.

23:10

Thank you.

23:14

Council Holmes.

23:15

Thank you.

23:15

Attorney Drakes, didn't you just say six months?

23:19

The next round.

23:20

The policy that we have submitted, the HCME that we have submitted, says for the next six months, we will only entertain social equity applicants.

23:34

For the next six months.

23:36

Correct.

23:37

So it may be that there's a round done now in which one is granted, two are granted.

23:43

I don't know how many.

23:45

And then there may be a pause, and after six months, it may be open to everyone.

23:51

I don't know what the administration's ultimate intent is.

23:55

Part of it will have to do with what applications come in, what do the plans look like, what do the locations look like?

24:05

And unfortunately, Council, I don't have the crystal ball as to what's going to come in.

24:10

I know where these folks' application says, and I know what their location is.

24:15

I don't know about the other ones.

24:18

If the administration was going to start accepting these applications, why didn't they just accept diesel who's been working at it and been here all this time?

24:29

Because until last week, when the CCC finally responded with an email that said you don't have to do an HCME first.

24:39

You don't have to have a social equity policy.

24:42

You can go out and grant an HCA if you want.

24:46

I have always been under the impression that until we had an approved HCME, we could not do the next round.

25:00

They've written an email that is contrary to what they have done and said all along in my mind.

25:05

Others may disagree with my interpretation.

25:07

Is the mayor aware of what this uh organization has been through and the money that they have spent?

25:14

Is he aware of that?

25:15

Is he he aware what they have committed to uh you know coming here to the city, just as others have?

25:21

He is he is aware that they have submitted an application.

25:25

He's aware that I've told him the application in my mind appears complete, but that's subject to planning's interpretation as well.

25:34

He's aware that they have secured a location, and he's aware that there's been a representation that they have been paying for that location.

25:46

I don't know if it's an option, I don't know if it's a lease, but he is aware that they have expended monies relative to the Herman Melville Boulevard location.

25:56

Yes.

25:58

Is he happy with that location?

26:00

I didn't ask him that question.

26:03

Once he told me that it would be inappropriate to grant it to one group when there are other applicants without having an open application process, limited to social equity.

26:15

But there hasn't been any other groups until now we're being told about that.

26:19

We're being told now about other groups now.

26:23

It's almost like I said, it's a checkers game.

26:26

I don't know if we're setting these people up to fail.

26:28

I I want to give them something positive that they can walk away with.

26:31

They've been through enough, they've spent enough, and I I I want something from the administration that says that they should have been recognized.

26:40

And until right now, now it seems like the game plays uh has moved.

26:44

The game plan has moved.

26:46

Then now we're going to open it up again when uh again I'm gonna repeat it.

26:51

They should have been, they should have had the first options.

26:53

Just open it up.

26:54

They have been here, they had been working at it, they did all the right things and and and and and should have been considered immediately.

27:02

It's the administration's position that it should be an open application process, and that one particular group should not take precedence over another, that they should be judged totally.

27:17

Wasn't it open, wasn't it open for any other group to um file uh uh file an application with the city?

27:24

Wasn't it open before that?

27:25

Again, counselor, there have been no applications accepted subsequent to the initial four or five that were granted some time ago.

27:39

They have asked to submit an application, it has not been accepted.

27:44

Other groups were in non-social equity have asked the subject.

27:50

The ones that have come ashore were accepted real quick.

27:53

They were accepted real quick, and we funneled it down the tunnel real quick.

27:58

This one, mmm, just bugging me.

28:00

I want to hear from the consultants.

28:02

I know we're up against the clock, Madam Chairman.

28:09

Can I make one more statement?

28:11

My thing is like he was.

28:12

Oh, excuse me.

28:13

I'm excuse me.

28:14

Counselor Abrew had a question.

28:15

Was it Council Jakes?

28:17

I'm sorry.

28:17

I did for my thing.

28:20

I'll be quick, Madam Chair.

28:21

Yeah, that's okay.

28:22

Good evening, Eric.

28:23

Um to see you.

28:25

Um so in 2018, I believe it was, uh, is when we ordained the cannabis ordinance as it relates to zoning, the host agreements, all of that.

28:33

I believe it was your predecessor, Michaela McDermott who worked with many of us on that at the time.

28:38

Um we at that time uh what we adopted was the liquor establishment floor of the 20 percent, which means we could grant eight dispensary recreational cannabis dispensary host agreements.

28:52

If my amount is correct, we have three online now, which means we have five left essentially up for grabs.

28:59

So that three plus five equals eight.

29:02

Um, but you said this next round, the administration is only entertaining social equity, and of that, there'd be only one awarded entity, is that correct?

29:15

I said there would be one or potentially more.

29:18

Or potentially more.

29:20

Must be one.

29:21

The CCC regulations require a one-to-one ratio going forward.

29:28

So theoretically, if there were five social equity applicants in this next round, that would get us to A if it were agreeable upon the administration and the planning department and your office, essentially we could have five social equity to make it to eight, is what you're saying in theory, correct?

29:48

Could be one, it could be two, it could be Council.

29:51

Your number is slightly off because there's another HCA that's been approved, but the license hasn't been approved.

30:00

That's Ember Gardens over on Nosset Street.

30:02

They're still hanging around.

30:04

But your concept is that was a long time ago, so uh where are we at with Ember Gardens?

30:10

Because it was it was hairy for a while.

30:11

There's an extension that was approved by the CCC some time ago.

30:16

I don't know the exact current status because as you know from my being here the last three or four months, getting any information out of them is a chore.

30:26

That's correct.

30:27

I mean, I I just with I'm not gonna talk about Ember Gardens.

30:31

We're not here to litigate that.

30:32

It's just I think we we we had we had we we had had the hearing on them during COVID for crying out loud, so it's been quite a while, right?

30:39

Counselor Gomes, I think you're right.

30:40

Yeah, so it's we're talking a long time ago.

30:42

I just um all right, so we have four, so we have four up for grabs then if this they're still lingering around, I guess.

30:50

All right.

30:50

Um, we'll see where this goes, I guess.

30:54

Um for the next round.

30:56

All right, thank you.

30:57

Thank you.

30:57

Thank you, Madam Chair.

30:59

Thank you.

30:59

I apologize, Council April.

31:00

I forget to call on you.

31:02

That's okay, Madam Chair.

31:03

Okay.

31:05

Counselor Baptiste.

31:07

The only issue I have with this is um the the mayor was aware of everything but somebody dropping the ball somewhere, so nobody even checked on if their application was moving through what the regulations were, what was passing through the state and how it was moving that way.

31:30

Like so if he was aware of that, he should have aware that somebody dropped the ball in that office to not check on where these people's um where the state was with it.

31:41

If they didn't come down here the last time, the time before last, and they didn't actually press the issue, it wouldn't have even gotten brought up because nobody even looked for it.

31:54

Right.

31:54

So, like, how much time did they have to actually have their application put through while they did all the work now that they're gonna have you know it open to everybody else on their back and their work?

32:11

I just think that I think that's that's crazy.

32:14

And I think that you know they they dropped the ball on these people and now they're gonna make them pay um and and go into basically a lottery to see if they can run their business that you know that they're gonna help somebody else establish because of their hard work.

32:32

That's BS.

32:32

I'm just calling it that.

32:34

So thank you.

32:35

That's all I had to say.

32:36

Thank you.

32:37

Okay, well it listen from the representatives from Diesel.

32:56

How are you doing?

32:56

I'm Shamar James.

32:58

Uh nice to see everyone again.

33:00

Um I think I I want to point out a couple of things that were said that uh, at least to my knowledge, are not true.

33:07

Um when we first brought our application to submit, um, they took it as a courtesy.

33:12

They said it wasn't officially submitted, but they told us, and they actually rushed us to do it because there was no one else in line.

33:19

There's not another person who's come and checked with us about opening up an application or submitting an application.

33:24

There was not a single person.

33:26

So we submitted and we waited, and they said we're not gonna officially accept it, but we have it so we can show that you're first in line.

33:33

So after we've done all of this work to make sure, hey, anyone can move forward, we've been pushed out of line.

33:40

We've been pushed and we've been set aside and told that, hey, good job.

33:45

I'm glad that you put in some effort and some work.

33:48

Who else wants to take advantage of this?

33:50

But you guys cannot.

33:51

That's how that feels.

33:53

It feels as if we pissed the wrong person off, and now that okay, we have to move forward with someone, we have to do something, it's just not gonna be you.

34:03

And that's how this appears to me.

34:05

And it it appears that way very blatantly.

34:08

It doesn't feel as if this is legit logistic let red tape.

34:13

It doesn't feel that way to me.

34:14

It feels as if this is targeted in the sense of you pissed us off.

34:18

So know what?

34:19

Hopefully you have the best application.

34:21

If you don't, I don't know what to tell you.

34:23

So uh it's very disheartening considering this is somewhere we wanted to be.

34:28

This is somewhere I remember visiting as a child, my grandfather.

34:32

We we wanted to be here.

34:33

So it feels like they don't.

34:36

So uh yeah.

34:38

Thank you.

34:43

Hello everyone.

34:44

Thank you for your time today.

34:45

My name is Tyrone Gomes.

34:47

I'm a consultant for TH uh Connect.

34:50

Um I have a couple of concerns that I was writing in my phone.

34:53

Uh I want to start by saying if you guys had a chance to to read the communication that we got back from the CCC.

35:01

What it said was New Bedford is allowed to move forward with the model HCA while they're working on the local licensing process for social equity applicants.

35:18

The plan that's being proposed today, we did not get approval for that.

35:26

I just want to make sure that that's clear.

35:28

We did not get approval to go back to your old licensing process that was non-compliant, and you guys weren't following it anyway, and we have records to prove that because you know it's public.

35:43

Your your licensing process is public.

35:45

And if you look at the timeline, you can see that you guys said this is how we do things, and then you didn't follow it, and then we have multiple email communications where you just didn't follow it.

35:54

Furthermore, there's supposed to be as of March 4th of this year, an additional local licensing process exclusively for social equity applicants.

36:06

The one you submitted has not been approved.

36:10

So no matter which way you slice it, the per the plan to move forward, we don't have permission to do that.

36:17

What we were doing, we was we were focusing on a pathway forward, a compliant pathway forward.

36:24

And um attorney Jake said he had a chance to review the application.

36:28

He thought it was clean, and if he could, if there was a legal pathway to move forward, then he would, but he needed to get permission from an authority from the CCC.

36:38

So we hyper focused on that.

36:40

Right?

36:40

That was the target.

36:41

Let's get authority from the CCC so that we can have a legal compliant pathway forward.

36:47

And now it just not feels like quite literally.

36:51

We've moved the target.

36:53

We've gone from can we identify a pathway forward, can we get permission from an authority to move forward because the application is clean and we will, to now we're gonna go back to a licensing process that we know is not compliant.

37:09

Right.

37:09

I have a couple of other things, uh, but I I thought that that was really important and worth mentioning.

37:15

Um, you know, these other applications that we're gonna get.

37:18

And in order to submit an application to New Bedford, you also have to submit like a security plan that has to be approved by the chief of police, and you have to have a compliant, properly zoned location, and you have to pay for that location.

37:30

I don't know that so other social equity applicants are in a position, are in that position.

37:35

These guys are family of entrepreneurs.

37:38

Not saying they have money to be spending on rent for years with no pathway forward, but like they've made that sacrifice.

37:46

I don't I don't know if many other SE applicants are in that same position.

37:52

The timeline is a big concern for me.

37:55

Not timeline of let's say for a moment we go back to this non-compliant licensing process.

38:02

Opening up around, that is not an acceptable.

38:06

Like I would like to know when a decision will be made, that timeline.

38:11

On this date, we will make a decision.

38:14

Because if you look at what you have published, it's like we'll accept applications, we will review them twice a year.

38:20

So you could in theory open up around and extend it for six months before you even make a decision.

38:26

Right?

38:27

That's gonna be costly.

38:28

We'll miss the opportunity for this social equity trust fund that's closing on Thursday.

38:34

Right?

38:35

We'll miss that opportunity.

38:37

Um, you know, to this point we've worked really, really hard.

38:41

We put a lot of pressure on the CCC.

38:43

We reached out to multiple departments, and we finally got somebody from licensing to respond and say, hey, yeah, you guys can move forward.

38:49

You know, with the model HCA, you can move forward.

38:52

And um, you know, I would I would ask that we stick to that plan.

38:56

That's the one that that they that we all agreed that was our target.

39:01

We got it.

39:02

Uh so I would ask that we uh that we stick to that plan if possible.

39:07

Um if anyone has any questions, happy to answer any questions you might have.

39:13

Thank you, madam chair.

39:14

Good evening.

39:16

Question for you.

39:17

Do you own the building?

39:19

I do not own the building.

39:20

I'm not sure.

39:20

So you're renting.

39:22

Okay, I'm a consultant for this group, and they are renting, yes.

39:26

They are renting.

39:26

Yeah.

39:27

Well, I just looked it up just to double check the location, and I can tell you why this administration is not being very friendly to you.

39:36

This isn't an area that they want to redevelop and put up their hotels and their restaurants.

39:44

So I think you have your answer of why this administration has not been very kind or professional to you.

39:50

I wish you guys a lot of luck, and I hope you come out the victors.

39:54

Good luck.

39:55

Thank you, Madam Chair.

39:56

Thank you, Council Giesta.

40:00

Council Combs.

40:03

Again, I'm going to take a deep breath tonight.

40:05

That was good, Counselor.

40:07

That was good.

40:07

Because she said it.

40:09

I didn't.

40:10

She said what I was been thinking for a long time.

40:13

Is they drew the map.

40:15

They didn't think there'd be any takers.

40:17

This organization came along and was the takers, and that messed up the whole plan.

40:21

So let's just eat them, eat them, eat them, eat their money, eat their money, and maybe they'll just go away, and we can go on with our plans for everything else that's moving along down on that waterfront with no hesitation, no weight, no nothing.

40:35

Let's go because we know who we know.

40:38

I'm not happy tonight.

40:40

I'm not happy with what has come before us.

40:42

The only thing that I think that I can do or we can do as a body tonight to continue to support you is make a recommendation to the mayor that he strongly consider this HCA in the next 24, 48 hours, and uh in order to um bring some relief not only to the diesel organization, but to an organization as is been told this evening, been here for a long time and didn't run on the city, stayed with it, stayed with it, stayed with it, did everything right, everything right, but now I I was trying to say it in the beginning without being harsh or being um on the attack because uh we got media in the room, and any time I raise my voice or I go after something, I'm attacking the mayor or I'm attacking this.

41:27

Well, I am attacking it because again, you move the game plan at the last minute, and this now will give them another more six months because I heard that loud and clear, six months.

41:37

It ain't gonna happen next Monday.

41:39

It's not gonna happen the following week.

41:41

This is what's going to go down.

41:42

We're gonna open this up, and who knows who else is out there that is applying, but it's just gonna starve you until um we can.

41:50

Until uh it's either a no-go or it's a go.

41:53

So that's what I can do tonight.

41:55

I don't know how much that will will reflect what we're feeling and w what should be done with the administration, or whether the administration seriously wants to work to just to move this along and uh and get it going.

42:07

Uh or again, do you want to save the land for the future development of which you drew the line?

42:12

I didn't draw the line.

42:14

And it's funny, yeah.

42:14

You know, this reminds me so much of the tattoo power stuff.

42:17

We're putting them all in places.

42:19

We can't do this, you can't do that, you can't do that.

42:21

We haven't had one problem with one organization across the city.

42:24

There hasn't been any problems in the commonwealth except for them being broken into or robbed in some way.

42:29

No problems with the youth or giving it to the wrong people or whatever, handling it like the law says and doing what has to be done.

42:36

And but this administration will keep doing what it's doing.

42:40

I'm not happy because this is the second time that I've been through this type of round with a minority organization that wanted to come into the city, which it chopped me up over on Route 6 that um we couldn't do, we couldn't do, we couldn't do, but no handout to say, look at the plan you put before us.

42:57

Maybe give you a walk through somewhere else or show you another avenue that possibly could help you because you have been stuck good stewards, just as Diesel has on this whole issue.

43:07

I can do that.

43:08

Can I do that?

43:10

Is that would that help?

43:11

I don't know how far that goes.

43:13

It may be just words through this council to the administration that he won't even look at it until Monday morning when it's much too late or whatever.

43:21

Because that's what the mayor thinks of this council, because the mayor is the mayor or whatever.

43:26

I'm trying to be very good tonight and I'm trying to not shoot any bullets.

43:30

I could have shot bullets in this room long, long time ago, and I've tried to keep my composure and I tried to have karma because I believe in karma.

43:38

You can do wrong, you can do wrong, but to don't get away with it.

43:41

Sooner or later, karma comes to get you.

43:45

Thank you, Consulman Gomes.

43:46

Yeah, if we could get a decision, I mean, uh if we could get some information by the deadline Thursday, at least these guys know what tier they can apply for and recover some of their investment capital, either way, if we can get some type of response before end of business day Thursday.

44:04

Consideration on the HCA.

44:06

Yeah, because if we just have like we can s we can apply even even if we haven't actually negotiated the HCA.

44:13

Now the state's not gonna issue these guys any funding until we shore everything up, but you're saying to me is actually if the if the mayor did accept this HCA, you can go continue to go on and try to get this grant money and then go through the process as the city wants to go through with this extended six months and and looking at everything.

44:33

Yes, i I mean, ideally it doesn't uh hopefully it doesn't take six months because you know this could be great revenue for the city.

44:40

You guys would because it's an SE applicant, you'd get an additional one percent uh of the total gross revenue that this business generates.

44:47

Anyway, we can submit for a higher tier of funding if we know if we're gonna be granted an HCA.

44:56

Okay.

45:00

If not then we would rather apply for tier one so these guys can recover some of their investment capital.

45:04

Yeah.

45:05

I'll also say really quickly we've been in the race for a really long time when we submitted the application we were probably working for like seven months building the application you know working with the security professional working with chief of police wildlife all of these organizations and we didn't know that the city had big plans down there.

45:25

This was this was the the zoning map that you created the cannabis overlay zoning map that you created and it happened to also be an opportunity zone so we were like okay there's an additional benefit we can pick a location that's in an opportunity zone.

45:38

We had no idea that the city had big plans there anyone else has any questions for me madam chair thank things thank you councillor Golmes anybody else have any questions like for what you have to go through like to get this stuff done you know what I'm saying this it happens too many times to people that look like us in this city and I'm gonna be quite honest with you if if people didn't drop the ball and wasn't all for a little bit of greed and a little bit of space where they want to do a little bit of their things it would have been done but you don't line a lot of people's pockets around this place and you know you ain't buddy buddy with you know the right people so you have to go that way you know and that's how you get treated around here and I'm sorry that you have to go through that so I apologize you know for me at least I would I would love to see another business that brings more revenue that's another uh black owned business in the city that could actually help out other people and employ people around the area so you know it's their loss if they lose so thank you appreciate your words thank you council baptiste anybody else council combs after my colleague's statement um I just like to follow up with I'm sorry that it comes to this point because we are better than that we are better look at this council look at what this council is made up of I've seen a change in the 36 years I've been here and the people I I'm saddened that we even have to go to the point of what we look like and how we get action in this city that that is and I've tried to stay away from that you know I have but tonight it originates strong and not from my mouth from others and uh a real serious problem that we have to uh straighten out because it it's not good and I don't like having meetings like this I want to have positive meetings where we look at people as people organizations as organizations business people as business people no matter what color who you are where you come from thank you for the opportunity at the appropriate time I'll make that recommendation that we've spoken of tonight to go to the mayor.

47:59

Thank you Council Gomes anybody else saying that Council Golmes make a recommendation that we send an immediate letter to the mayor asking him to enter into an HCA with the diesel um operation in order to move the grant just did he enter into an HDC in order to uh affiliate assist assist the organization in recouping some of that money and they continue to stay strong looking for their spot in the city of New Bedford and their license granted thank you motion made by Councillor Gomes second by Counselor Virgo all in favor say aye roll call.

48:44

Roll call roll call vote we'll call vote drafting a letter to the mayor asking him to um enter into agreement with House of Diesel for HCA Council Avery Council Able Council Baptist?

49:01

Yes he has Council Vertice Council Virgo he has Council Virgo Council Carney Yes Council Carney Council Giesta?

49:07

Yes Council Giustan Council Gomes?

49:10

Yes he has Council Gomes Council Moran Yes Council Moran Council Oliver yes Council Oliver Council Pereira passes nine to zero motion passes nine to zero Madam Chair if you would uh table the original motion yep motion made to table seconded by council burgo all in favor say aye and those the ayes have it seeing no further business before us we are adjourned motion to adjourn by Council Oliver second by Council Burgo we adjourned at 6 49 p.m

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Summary of Proceedings

Committee on Appointments and Briefings - December 9, 2025

The Committee on Appointments and Briefings convened to address a contentious issue regarding New Bedford's cannabis licensing process. Following a recent email from the Cannabis Control Commission (CCC) indicating the city could proceed with a Host Community Agreement (HCA) without a prior Social Equity Policy (SEP), the Administration opened a new application round limited to social equity applicants. However, the Administration stated it would not grant the HCA to House of Diesel immediately despite their pending application, citing the presence of other prospective social equity applicants who were previously unable to apply due to city policy. This decision sparked significant criticism from council members and the applicant, who argued the city created financial harm for House of Diesel by delaying the process and now forcing them into a competitive lottery against newcomers.

Consent Calendar

  • Received and tabled a letter of absence from Councillor Choquette regarding an out-of-town business commitment.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • House of Diesel Representatives (Shamar James, Tyrone Gomes):
    • Position: Expressed strong opposition to the Administration's plan to open a new competitive round and argued that House of Diesel was set aside and treated unfairly after investing significant time and money based on early assurances. They stated, "it appears that this is targeted... you pissed us off... it just not gonna be you."
    • Arguments: Asserted that the CCC email allowed for a compliant pathway via a Model HCA that the city ignored, forcing them to wait. They argued the new plan forces them to compete against applicants who may not have the same financial capacity to secure locations or security plans. They highlighted that the timeline for a decision under the new six-month window would cause them to miss a Social Equity Trust Fund deadline on Thursday.
    • Context: Stated they submitted an application as a courtesy in 2018, were told it wasn't officially accepted, and were told they were "first in line" only to be told later they must re-apply against new competitors. They expressed that they are renting a location in an Opportunity Zone and have incurred years of expenses without a pathway forward.
  • Council Member Gomes:
    • Position: Expressed deep skepticism and anger regarding the Administration's motives, suggesting the area was not intended for redevelopment and that the Administration "drew the map" to exclude House of Diesel. He argued the Administration is trying to "eat them, eat their money" to make them leave so the city can pursue its own waterfront development plans.
    • Arguments: Noted that House of Diesel has been a good steward despite the lack of support, contrasting their treatment with other organizations. He accused the city of moving the goalposts and creating a "checkers game" that favors the Administration's preferences over the applicant's hard work.
  • Council Member Jakes:
    • Position: Expressed concern that the Administration's delay and subsequent decision to open the round to others unfairly penalized House of Diesel for work done and issues created by the state agency (CCC).
    • Arguments: Argued that House of Diesel should have "first dibs" and that the Administration dropped the ball in monitoring the state's progress, leading to this situation. He felt it was disrespectful to the applicant to let "other people... benefit for the work that they put in" while the original applicant is forced to "pay" via a lottery.
  • Council Member Abrew:
    • Position: Expressed that the current path does not favor House of Diesel and questioned why the Administration did not accept their application sooner given the city's history of accepting others quickly.
    • Arguments: Described the situation as a "checkers game" where the Administration decides who gets the grant, noting that House of Diesel has been sidelined while others were "funneled down the tunnel real quick."
  • Council Member Baptiste:
    • Position: Expressed that the current process is "crazy" and that the Administration dropped the ball, causing House of Diesel to lose the benefit of their hard work to new applicants.
    • Arguments: Stated the Mayor should have checked the status of the application and that it is unfair to force House of Diesel into a lottery where they might not win despite their prior efforts.

Discussion Items

  • Administration Explanation of Process:
    • Attorney Drakes and Planning Staff explained that while the CCC allowed the city to issue an HCA without a social equity policy, the city policy (subject to CCC approval) mandates that for the next six months, only social equity applicants be accepted.
    • The Administration stated it is inappropriate to grant the HCA to one specific applicant when multiple social equity applicants are present or could emerge in a new round. They emphasized an "open and equitable application" process where all applicants are judged equally.
    • Clarified that while the next HCA granted will go to a social equity applicant, the current round accepts applications from all social equity candidates, and the number of grants is not fixed at one but follows a one-to-one ratio with licenses.
    • Planned to contact all identified social equity candidates to inquire if they wish to apply in this round.
  • Council Debate on Fairness and Timeline:
    • Council members questioned why House of Diesel had to re-apply after being told they were in line, given the city's own delays. Council Moran and others asked if the round could be limited to House of Diesel to allow them to secure a grant before the Thursday deadline.
    • The Administration maintained that they cannot guarantee a one-to-one ratio for this specific round without seeing applications, and that a decision timeline extending six months is a risk for the applicant.
    • Councilman Gomes proposed that the only viable solution is for the Mayor to enter into an HCA with House of Diesel immediately to allow them to apply for state funding before the Thursday deadline, effectively bypassing the competitive new round.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion Passed: The Council passed a motion made by Councilor Gomes and seconded by Councilor Virgo to draft a letter to the Mayor.
  • Directive: The letter requests that the Mayor immediately enter into a Host Community Agreement (HCA) with House of Diesel to allow the organization to pursue state grant funding before the Thursday deadline.
  • Vote Tally: The motion passed with a 9-0 vote (Council Avery, Able, Baptist, Verde, Virgo, Carney, Giustan, Gomes, and Moran voted Aye; Council Oliver and Pereira were present but the vote count confirmed 9 in favor).
  • Adjournment: The Committee tabled the original motion regarding the new application process and adjourned the meeting at 6:49 p.m.

Meeting Transcript

Testing one two three, testing one, two, three. Okay. Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the committee on appointments and briefings. It's December 9th to 2025 and it is six. Ian April. I have one letter to read into the record. It's from Councillor Choquette. I am writing to inform you that regretfully I will be unable to attend the committee on appointments and briefings meeting on Tuesday, December 9th, 2025, due to an out-of-town business commitment. Please read this letter into the record to make my colleagues and the public aware of the reason of my absence. Second by Councillor Oliver. All in favor say aye. Aye. I suppose the eyes have it. It was heard and then tabled on February eighteenth. The ayes have it, it's probably before us. As you may recall very briefly, we've been trying to get the social equity policy approved by the Cannabis Control Commission going back to August. It's still not been approved, but last week they said we could proceed with an HCA. As a result of that, I spoke to the administration, and the mayor has indicated he is happy to open a new round of applications limited solely to social equity applicants. However, the House of Diesel is not the only social equity applicant that has approached the planning board over the last few years with the intention of submitting an application. And as you know, the planning board did not accept any of those applications. So the planning board will be accepting only from social equity applicants. Applications for a host community agreement. But the administration believes that it is not appropriate when there is more than one applicant to grant it to one particular applicant that has been pressing for a license. It should be an open and equitable application. If you don't mind, I don't mean to interrupt you and I don't mean to disrespect you in any way. Hasn't this been going on for a while? When did this all come into play that um we had other players in the game and that we're gonna now we're gonna open this all up? So what you're telling me tonight is that this organization has to reapply all over again. They have to submit their application as soon as we open the round. We will have a definitive period of time to accept them. There will be other applicants. We're aware of at least one other application that was turned down because we weren't accepting applications in the same way that House of Diesel's application was not accepted, and there is at least one other, a third applicant who had made numerous inquiries and been told we aren't currently accepting applications. So now we are going to accept applications. The difficult thing, Counselor, and I recognize it, is the CCC has imposed a deadline that affects the House of Diesel financially. But this problem is created greatly by the CCC. They haven't responded me to me since August. They finally responded last week and said, yep, you can do this backwards. Go ahead and do an HCA, and we'll look at the HME CME after the fact. That came out eight days before the deadline for this grant application that I understand the House of Diesel is asking for. That is not the administration's problem. The problem is you have a state agency that hasn't been doing its job for the last four months. And as you recall at the last meeting, even the nice folks at House of Diesel acknowledged that the CCC can't get its acting gear. Okay. I'm going to yield for a minute. Okay. Council Baptiste. Thank you, Madam Chair. How are you doing, Councillor Jakes? The only issue I have with this is other people are going to benefit for the work that they put in. Right.

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