Colleagues and guests, welcome to the committee on appointments and briefings.

It's July 21st, 2026.

This meeting is at 7 o'clock here in room 214 at City Hall Chambers.

In the in the uh my colleagues in government that are present.

Counselor Abu, Councilor at Lodge, Councilward 2, Scott Pemberton, Councillor Ward 1, Leo Choquette, Council Ward 5, Joseph Loebs, Councilword 6, Ryan Pereira, Councillor Light, James Roy, Councilward 3, Sean Oliver, and Councilwood 4, Derek Baptist.

Thank you all for coming.

No, this meeting is being live streamed and recorded.

City Council and Committee meetings can be viewed on the City of New Bedford's homepage under quick links, then meetings.

Thank you all for coming.

Do we have anything to read in the record?

I have one letter to read into the record from Councillor President.

Excuse me, I'm sorry.

Councillor Shaneberg of First Vice President.

Sorry, Mr.

President.

Sorry about that.

I'll be leaving now.

Um I am writing to inform you that uh regretfully I will be late to the Committee on Appointments and Briefings meeting on Tuesday, July 21st, 2026, due to attending a neighborhood community meeting.

Please read this letter into the record to make my colleagues in the public aware of the reason for my absence.

Sincerely Shane Burgo, first vice president of the New Bedford City Council.

Motion received in place on file.

Motion being made by Sean Hulva, second by Brian Pereira, all in favor say aye.

Oppose the ayes have it.

Number one is now before us.

Item number one is citizens' input time.

And I've got a um a text from the Mr.

LaMontaine today who said that he will not be coming this evening.

So we're on to on to number two.

You can table or refer.

Uh no further action.

If I can a motion for motion made for no further action made by Councillor Baptiste, second by Councillor Abreu.

All in favor say aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

Item number two is a public hearing on a communication demolition, New Bedford Historical Commission to the City Council.

Read the building demolition review of 535 Brock Avenue.

Uh map 11, La 56, a circa 1840, 1854 carriage bond later converted to a two-story residence.

A coffin Howland is a contributing resource to the Hazelwood Park National Register.

The building is significant in its association with the Joseph Howland Estate, which later became Hazelwood Park.

The building experienced a significant fire decades ago and was boarded up and fenced off to deter ongoing vandalism and long-term deferred maintenance.

In addition to the fire damage and the collapsed roof, it does not make the building a good candidate for restoration.

In light of these findings, the New Bedford Historical Commission has determined that the building at 535 Brock Avenue, known as the Coffin Holland House, is historically significant, but not preferably preserved building.

And the public hearing is now before you to be opened.

Motion to open the public hearing.

Motion has been made to receive in place on file the communication and open the public hearing made by Council Pereira, second by Councillor Roy.

All in favor say aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

The public hearing is now open.

Anne.

You're on the evening, Madam Chair, Honorable Counselors.

You should have a copy of the Historical Commission staff report, which lays out the condition of the property, the subject property property, as well as the characterization of finding it historically significant but not preferably preserved, which is part of our ordinance.

That portion of the ordinance does call for a public hearing, which is why we're here today to discuss the property, and I am here to answer any questions that you may have.

Yes.

Motion receiving place on filed, made by Council Lopes.

Second by Council Pereira.

All in favor say aye.

Opposed?

The ayes have it.

Council Abrew.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Good evening, Ann.

Thanks for uh coming in.

Just a couple of questions.

Um before recommending the demolition, and someone who has been a lifelong South Ender, obviously, this property in this House is dear and dear to me and I'm sure many others in this room.

Um before recommending the demolition, uh were there any type of um restoration or uh maybe stabilization alternatives evaluated in this process?

Yes.

So let me let me give you some some background, some context.

Um I have been the preservation planner for 20 years.

And one of the first things that we did when I came on in under the last administration was to um nominate the park to be a national register site so that we could then be eligible for um funding for grant funding.

Um we're a city with you know limited financial resources to um restore buildings of of this magnitude.

Um and I can tell you 20 years ago, this building was in very poor shape at the time.

Um it is continuously uh deteriorated.

Um I would say even 20 years ago, with with very little grant funding that we had, we would not have been able to restore the building.

We would probably have to re rebuild it even 20 years ago.

It was in that that poor of shape.

I can tell you, again, because of limited resources and limited grant um funding available, we have allocated those resources towards what is referred to as the Stonehouse, because that property structurally was in very good shape and it is button what we would call buttoned out right now.

Okay.

Thank you for that detailed response.

Um the report um that I've read and you alluded to, um, it does mention uh to reconstruct uh a similarly uh scaled or architecturally sensitive uh replacement building, if you will.

Um can you just describe again a 30,000 feet kind of what that reconstruction would look like given the fact that it is a sensitive topic for a lot of South Enders and folks who live on the peninsula who grew up, you know, uh admiring this structure and being in and around it.

So just wondering what the conversations have been surrounding that issue.

Yeah, so when we say we have plans, they have very general plans, schematic in scale.

You know, we are looking at we do not want to recreate the the building um typically in historic preservation.

That's not something that's generally looked at favorably.

It's kind of we call it Disneyland.

Um again, any type of building that would be replaced would uh obviously be of similar scale because you don't you want to fit the context of what was there and what currently exists in the park and not have anything overpowering.

Um but it would generally again fit the same footprint mass scale size, uh architectural stylistics of of the um historic building, but not an exact replica.

Okay.

Um as this pro this process kind of evolves, I would recommend maybe maybe you already have, but um I don't think so.

Um maybe consulting or engaging the neighborhood residents through the the not the Clarks Point Neighborhood Association anymore, it's but the Peninsula Neighborhood Association now, not to have them at the table as far as construction and design, but maybe just to solicit some feedback and see what their thoughts are from the neighborhood and the community down there who has to live and look look at it every day and walk by it and congregate.

Is that something that you'd be willing to do with your team?

I do want to state that I am not the lead on this project.

I am obviously here in the role of representing the Historical Commission.

This is a park property, so the parks department and Department of Facilities and Fleet Management are the leads on on the project.

No, I understand, but respectfully you're the representative here, so you're the only one I can ask.

So you understand?

I will pass that on.

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

And I'll I could follow up with you as this problem, not problem, but this process goes through.

Yeah, no, I I think that's all I have.

Um the reconstruction plans um uh uh would they would return to the historical commission, correct?

Or to the city council for additional review.

I'm sorry?

The the reconstruction plans, would they come back before this body or the historical commission?

No, that would that's that's not required.

I didn't think so.

Okay.

I had never dealt with this before, so I just I do want to state there there is no identified funding for reconstruction.

There's only been plural preliminary schematic plans.

So but the building, we're seeking demolition now because the funding for that does exist and it is a a health and safety hazard.

So I get it.

Okay.

I I get it's gonna come down.

I'm not fighting for it to stay up.

It's an isore, it needs to come down.

I just, you know, we're we're big on history in the city in particular on the peninsula and everywhere, the downtown, the north and the west end, but just let's all be cognizant and respectful and mindful of that.

I know you are and your role.

You've always been so.

So thank you for your time, and appreciate it.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I'll yield at this time.

Thank you, Councillor Abreu.

Next we have Council Oliver.

Thank you.

Um Madam Chair.

Uh thank you for being here.

Um not in my ward, I grew up down in the South End.

I still have a lot of family down there.

Um I uh I spent a lot of summers in that park.

My questions are um cost for the demo and what funding what is the funding mechanism?

Again, I don't I don't have that information readily available that's came from DFFM, they're handling that.

So I know it's I know obviously it's it's available because that's why we're going forward, but I don't know the source or the the full amount.

Um I know that the property requires um certain abatement.

Um so those costs are associated with it as well, so it's not just the demolition, this demolition and abatement.

Do you know if the city will be handling the demo or are we is this something that we're looking to sub out?

Um I think they're exploring both at this point in time.

Okay.

And did anybody tell you talk to you about a uh timeline if the demolition is granted?

Um I I think it's relatively soon because I'm being badgered as to when this approval is going to take place.

So I think Okay.

Yes.

Um then I know uh that it was said there was kind of primitive talks about some sort of structure there to to kind of highlight what once was.

Um do you know of any other conversations that were had or uh of maybe even if it's just something a you know some sort of plaque or something like that, because funding is difficult for larger scale projects like this.

So you're saying not have not instead of replacing it with some sort of structure, we don't have to do that.

Oh, yeah, no, uh you that's absolutely correct.

So if if if the budget, there's no budget, obviously, to to reconstruct a building um on that site, then I think um having some type of historical interpretation through like a wayside panel that you see often on sidewalks is something that the city could do.

And I think that's a great idea.

Yeah.

Okay.

Um long and the short of it, the building is in absolute terrible condition.

It's a safety hazard, it's a fire hazard, it's all all the hazards it's gotta come down.

Sadly, yes.

Okay.

Thank you.

Very hard for me to say that.

Yeah.

Thank you uh for for all that.

Thank you, Ms.

Uh, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Council.

Uh Council Pempetin?

Thank you, Madam Chairman.

Hi, Anne.

Uh just a little curious is why have we waited so long?

Why all this time?

And we decided to take it down.

Especially if it had such uh you know historical value and stuff, why didn't we do anything in the beginning and you know, why do we wait all those years?

So I I want to be clear that we did we we we did look into throughout the years.

This is going back in at least for me 20 years for for the park in both buildings, not just the efforts into the stone building, but both buildings.

We we did um structural assessments of of the building of the of the cottage.

Um we actually tore down um I think about 2015, one section that was very, very badly damaged.

Um and I think to be honest with you, there was always the hope that we would find some source of funding to rehabilitate that building.

And I think um once we started working on the stone building, because the stone building, we've also done have completed planning for its reuse.

Um that's in much better shape.

And at the same time we're looking at the cottage and realized very quickly that it was beyond repair.

So I think it was a lot of as Council Abrew was saying, um uh uh feeling and and understanding that we really um take care or have a lot of care and feelings for our historic buildings, and there was always a hope that we could restore it and just realize we couldn't.

Thank you.

I just I guess I was just curious why we waited so long.

Why now?

But thank you.

Thank you, Madam Treaman.

Thank you, Council Pemberton.

Council President Pereira.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

So um I'm I'm sure you're gonna share many of the sentiment I have uh about this house, so I'm not gonna uh uh I'll get off my soapbox pretty quickly, but uh I I I this is a tough vote for me to vote yes on this.

Um this is a very important piece of uh uh point of pride for many folks who grew up on the peninsula in the South End um who frequent in Hazelwood Park, uh many of our city residents who frequent Hazelwood Park and look at those beautiful homes and it's uh uh uh very, very uh uh large point of pride for a lot of us who live down there.

Um we in a little bit uh when when the pub as the public hearing continues, I'm gonna submit testimony that the council received the email from um uh Mr.

Mirage that lives on Valentine Street.

And um what uh what I will state is I I share a lot of his anger and frustration.

Um I believe it was less than a year ago there was discussions that I was included in with the administration to still save this building.

May have been trying to get grants because it is going to be it would be a costly uh uh uh process to save the building.

Um abatements still need to occur, obviously with health issues and hazards and then obviously extensive repair, but um walking through the park just last Saturday uh f Saturday, um the the building is just in in deplorable condition.

It it it's it's disgraceful.

I know you probably agree, um and and it's sad to see such a beautiful building uh uh have to come down.

Um but when you do these reports uh on behalf of the historical commission, when you when you give them recommendations when you put these forward as you do for many buildings in the city, um you how much does condition uh go into the thought process of of of making your recommendation?

Oh, it weighs heavily for example I will be clear.

If if this demolition was denied um today, um and you folks came up with a pot of money to restore it, guess what?

We're we're knocking it down to restore it.

There's no way around it.

The assessment that we've done just for abatement um purposes demonstrates that we would have to knock all the the roof has collapsed into itself.

You can't you can't even enter into the building.

Yeah.

Um but between the existing windows and the the materials that are hazardous, hazardous, that we would have to knock the building down and rebuild it.

Yeah.

I'm gonna that's that's the honest answer at this point in time.

Yeah.

I I the the especially on the west side, I think is the worst side, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean the whole building, but the west side, I think is the side that the roof collapsed in on.

It's it's tough.

It's tough because it's uh such a beautiful part of that park.

And and um but at this point to y'all to your point, um I I'm in agreement that at this point there's there is no way to salvage that building, and it's it's a shame it got this far.

Um but uh thank you.

I appreciate your uh uh answering my question.

Just uh one last request.

Could you uh I know you're not handling it, but uh to to the counselor from WOD3's question, could you uh inquire with the various parties and provide at some point uh the costs associated with this?

I will coordinate that with them first things tomorrow.

Provide it with the the clerk's office and eliminate it.

Okay.

Thanks, Ann.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thanks to Council Pereira.

Councillor Pereira, did you were you gonna read that re receiving place on file?

I was gonna Yeah, that's fine.

I was just gonna I can have the clerk do it.

Yeah, that's fine.

Okay.

I was just gonna wait till uh if any of my colleagues had any other questions and then allow that.

Okay.

And Council Abram, just on my second, if that's right.

You can have a question.

Just um based on what we heard how my colleague, my fellow South End colleagues say he's correct, and I just want to drive home again.

Please, please, can you pass the message along?

The South End residents have to be involved in this process.

I'm not saying that they're the ones to make the be the final arbiters of what we do and how we do it, but they have to be heard.

That's all.

No.

And he's dead on.

And I we we live down there.

We know these people.

They're there amongst it.

We go to these meetings.

You know how it is.

I go to those meetings.

I haven't seen you in a while.

I have not been in a while.

But well, there's a new group.

I enjoy the the South End meetings.

Yeah, well, there's a new there's a new group now.

They're great.

So Judy Christopher, we'll get you on our list.

I'll tell her to reach out to you.

Thanks, Ann.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Counselor Abrew.

Counselor Lopes.

So Ann, thank you.

Me and you have spent countless summer days there.

And I remember sharing the story when I was in middle school, junior high.

I went to school with the last part caretakers daughter.

I went to a party in that house.

And we said this on a on an August Sunday.

This was at the time 30 years of every mayor's neglect.

And if we had historical the money that we have today 30 years ago, something like this potentially could have been saved.

Because I remember we looked at how do we replicate the boarding on the outside in case we ever want to get the money.

And then it was there's lead paint, there's this, there's that.

And then we looked at, and I think it was 2013.

We took off the non-historical component and we got money from Pat Sullivan.

And in 2015, we had applied for a park grant that was denied.

So your office, I will tell you previously when I was the War Six Counselor, you worked tirelessly to put every possibility to save that building.

And I I just want to commend you for the work that you did during my tenure to try to save that building because you knew that there was nothing else in the area that could replicate the history that that building had, but you know, neglect from every administration prior, let it let it get to where it is today.

But I just want to thank you for all that you did for all the years before to try to get every dime possible to to save it before it got to the condition where the roof imploded.

So thank you, Counselor.

I appreciate that.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Council Lopes.

Does anybody else have any more questions for uh Ms.

Laurel?

Okay.

I would Commission, I know you're here.

Would you like to give us a little insight on your evaluation of this?

Do you have a little background you want to give to us on the building?

Well.

I believe his name was um Mr.

Louny.

Yeah.

And um it's a great building, but unfortunately, should have would have, could have, but it hasn't been done, and it it's at a state of disrepair now that it's a safety hazard for anybody that gets there, and and we don't want anybody getting hurt, so it it just has to come down.

It's a shame, but um well, we tried our best to get it back to what it was.

At one time we used to say it was like the House of Seven Gables, but it uh it didn't didn't work out for the city.

Unfortunately.

Yeah.

Okay, Ian?

Thank you, Naomi.

Oh, Council Council Abrew, I'm sorry.

Teasing you.

It's a committee.

Anyway, thank you, Madam Chair.

Um you're welcome, Councilor.

Thank you, madam.

Uh Danny, I know that uh you had mentioned to me um not on the record, but over here that uh there were several times you had to board the place up and obviously it's in very disrepair.

I know you're not in law enforcement, but have there been any homeless issues there where folks have snuck in and maybe made a fire or were living congregating, and that's obviously a hazard, and it's dangerous for anyone who could be trying to sneak in there, but maybe to get away from the rain, the snow, the cold.

Um has there been any problems as it relates to that issue?

Well, one time we did board it up um because somebody did break in.

We were afraid that they're gonna torture it.

So that was many, many moons ago.

Um but it past few years there hasn't been uh any complaints from the neighborhood.

So the neighbors watch it villagely.

So if somebody was inside there, we would know the next morning or that night.

Okay.

That was all I wanted to be clear because I I can't speak to anyone else, but I haven't heard of anything, but I didn't know if you know.

All right, thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

That's it.

Thank you, Counselor Abrew.

Anybody else have any um questions for the Commissioner?

Thank you, Commissioner, for your input.

Everybody have a good night.

Okay, this is a public hearing.

Um Madam Chair, I'd like to I'd like to receive and place on file the testimony received from uh Gary Moraes on Valentine's Street.

Okay.

Made it made by Council Prairie, second by Council Lopes.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

Could the clerk read it if that's thank you?

No.

Council Hope.

This is an email from uh G uh Gary uh Moray's.

Um for many decades it seems the Coffin Holland House has been the victim of short-term planning by some and long-term plan obsolence by others.

Uh that is how it appears given the constant lack of executing building stabilization in the face of continued decay and neglect.

Unfortunately, this is not the only city historic site that has fallen by the wayside.

It seems there has often been an unrealistic presentation of narrow choices to save meaningful sites.

When the need presents itself, stabilization first, then alternative recovery use makes more sense than simple abandonment to decay.

Once the site, due to systematic neglect becomes unsavable, giving cost issues, the innovative city reuse is much more beneficial project.

To be sure, we need not to be in the situation we are today, but we are here nevertheless.

Going forward, a new life for the site to bring essential stable restrooms and a visitor center is a meaningful and a badly needed improvement to Hazelwood Park, whose park guests frequently now use trees for their restroom relief.

Hopefully a new building will be simple and invoke the style of the original building without the need for insisted historical minutiae used many times to just to prolong the decay of the building until the only choice was to tear it down.

So tear it down, but rebuild a simple restroom building in a simple cottage style in its place.

You can look to Bristol, Rhode Island for an example of purposeful building reuse.

Their waterside park restrooms made from an old utility building can serve as an inspiration for Hazelwood Park.

What appears as purposeful city park department neglect and the absurd, unrealistic and unnecessary binary choice that discredits an historic commission excuse cover story used for these past several years has been infuriating.

Gary Moraes, Valentine's Street, New Bedford Mass.

Thank you.

Okay, this is a public hearing, and we allow the people in the audience to speak.

So I'm looking if anybody's willing to speak in favor.

Good evening, Mr.

McCoy.

Would you give your name and address for the record?

My name is John McCoy.

I live on Lucas Street, and I've been there for 25 years.

And I've been to at least four public meetings about that house.

Of the historic part of it, that's the least historic.

It was a barn.

When some family member died, I built uh the Conklin who owned the stone mansion or stone house, built it up for his I think it was his sister-in-law.

But it went from a barn to a domicile.

And then later it was uh used for the park superintendent.

The Stonehouse is the historic one.

That one, the president or head of the mechanics bank building in New Bedford in the 1840s, was the bank that was making all the loans to the whaling industry.

And he was the head of it.

That's the historic part, and it's architecturally so much better.

Just east of the barn is where the gazebo is located.

From the gazebo without the barn there, you have this fantastic view of Clark's Cove.

I mean, really beautiful.

There's a lot of things that go on at the at that gazebo, including weddings.

I think it would be a travesty to build another building in that spot.

You'd spoil the view.

There's lots of room in the park if you have to build another building, but please don't spoil the view.

I think you could build up the gazebo in some way and maybe get some income for the city.

I don't know.

But uh certainly it would be an attraction.

It is now.

But it would be a better one.

I mean, the view is unbelievable.

So please don't put anything else on that spot.

Don't waste the dime on that.

Um we voted many years ago, citizens.

I'm the only citizen here, apparently, that that showed up.

So I I think most people in the South End have lost interest in that building.

But um I, for one, totally concur that it should be knocked down.

And that's all I have to say.

Okay.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Anyone else would like to speak in favor?

Speak in favor, be recorded in favor, be recorded in favor.

Speak in opposition.

Anyone want to speak in opposition, be recorded in opposition.

At this point, I'll entertain a motion to close the public hearing.

Motion may be by Council April to close the public hearing.

Second by Council Roy.

All in favor say aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

Your pleasure.

Excuse me.

Motion to approve the demolition.

Motion been made to approve the demolition by Council Roy.

Second by Councillor Lloyd.

And refer to the full city council.

And refer the refer to the full city council.

Thank you.

All in favor say aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

Number two is now before us.

I mean number three.

Number three is a public excuse me.

Communication mayor mentioned to the city council submitting the appointment of Justin Olson, New Bedford Mass to the water board.

Mr.

Olson will be replacing the late Patrick E.

Rogers who resigned in January 2025.

This term will expire in April 2027.

It was referred to here on May 28, 2026.

It was read and tabled on June 23rd, 2026, and is now before you, and it remains on the table.

Second.

Motion made by Council Lopes, second by Council Roy.

All in favor say aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

Mr.

Olson.

Welcome.

Good evening.

State your name and address for the record.

Yep, Justin Olsen, 27 Plant Street, New Bedford Mass.

Okay.

Do you want to give us a little background why you would like to be on the water board?

Sure, not a problem.

So as most of you know, I spent almost ten years with the public works DPI.

I worked out of that uh facility for most of that time and side by side with the water department, so I've I've gained a lot of knowledge working shoulder to shoulder.

Um my expertise was park maintenance, forestry, cemetery, and uh actually maintenance of the watershed areas around Quitticus in Lakeville.

So I spent a lot of time at pump stations, uh the water tower and Hathaway Road, the plant itself.

I've worked with the superintendent, assistant superintendent, and the commissioner many times on projects.

So I I recognize the opportunity to join the board, so I put in my uh I put my hat in the ring for it, if you will.

So anybody have any questions?

Council Loops.

More of a statement, Justin.

I worked at you before, so I know how how much you care about the city, how much you care about the water quality for the city, and I know as somebody that pays taxes on water bill that you're going to be mindful of all of that when you're serving on the water board.

So I just want to thank you for stepping up, and I know that what you did before you'll bring to the the waterboard in that same capacity and determination.

Thank you.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Council Lopes.

Anybody else?

Council Abril.

Just a statement.

You're a total class act.

You are always there for me and the council and and us for years.

You're a true professional.

And this is probably one of the easiest votes to a board of commission I've ever had.

So you'll have my support tonight.

You belong on that board.

Congratulations and best of luck.

Thanks, Justin.

Thank you.

Thank you, Council Abraham.

Anybody else?

Council Choquet.

What he said.

Thank you.

Ditto.

Ditto ditto ditto.

Okay.

Your pleasure, Counselors.

Motion may be made by Councillor Lopes, second by Councillor Abel for a positive recommendation to the full city council.

All in favor say aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

So our next council meeting is on August 20th.

Okay.

So you can either come on August 20th and get sworn in, or you can wait and get sworn in by the clerk.

Okay.

It's up to you.

Thank you very much.

I'll try to make that meeting.

And thank you.

Thank you so much.

Yes.

Alrighty.

Number four is over in motion, Councillors Lopes, Combs, Abreu Connie, Choquette, Pemberton, and Pereira requesting the representatives from Public Waste Services, E.

L.

Harvey, and Waste Management attend a meeting of the New Bedford City Council's Committee on Appointments and Briefings to discuss their ongoing violations of the City of New Bedford ordinance governing waste collection and disposal operations within the city was referred to here on May 28th, 2026.

Number four is now before you.

Oppose the ayes have it.

Councillor Lopes.

Did we receive any communication?

Now I've I've spoken to Republic Waste at length since this was filed.

Did we receive any communications from E.L.

Harvey?

No.

No.

Nothing.

So I will tell you, and I want to thank you, Commissioner Romanowitz.

We have worked tirelessly with Republic Waste Services.

Until we actually filed this motion and the and the Commissioner was actually citing them for picking up dumpsters at 4.45 in the morning, 5 o'clock in the morning, and 5.15, there was no action.

Sorry, I spoke to the representative from Republic Waste.

She gave me her personal cell phone number.

The problem is, and they're going to fix it, is they actually go into the industrial park at 3 o'clock in the morning and start picking up dumpsters.

And when they leave the industrial park, they thought it was okay to go into the residential neighborhoods and pick up dumpsters.

And I explained to the lady that we had a city ordinance that says you can't pick up a dumpster in the residential neighborhood until 7 a.m.

And she said, we had no knowledge of that.

I said that's a farce because I've spoken to your regional representative.

I know the building commissioner has spoken to him.

I know Eric Jakes did.

It wasn't until they started getting whatever the amount of the fine is that the Commissioner's office was sending to their corporate office that they realized between the motion and that they needed to actually call the ward counselor that has had the most complaints in the area.

The driver basically said, What do you want me to do for 45 minutes while I'm doing other picking up dumps?

And I said, Well, if you get to the house before 7 o'clock in the morning, we're going to continue to find you.

The lady has spoken to the driver.

This was over a week ago.

We had our first Monday.

Danny, we had nothing.

We had nothing.

This was the first Monday, because it's it was picked up on Monday mornings between 5.45 and 6.15 in the morning.

This is the first Monday that we've had no issues.

I would like to leave this item on the table in case the occurrence happens again.

We've worked with the facility that has the dumpster.

Part of the problem was there was cars parking that made it difficult for the driver to get there when employees were there.

So at least with Republic Waste, is they have worked with the company that owns the property to make sure that on Monday mornings there will be a clear path to the dumpster to allow for the pickup.

I now have the regional representative's number as well as the lady that handles the local area, the drivers.

So first Monday, we've had no issues.

But I would like to leave the item tabled.

Yes.

If nobody minds from the chair, um I would like to see this stay on the table too, because uh waste management is notorious for this and still is.

I don't know how many times they call them, takes pictures when I go to work in the morning and leave the house at 6 30 and they're there.

Neighbors complaining all the time, and they're still continuing to do so.

So yes, let's leave it on the table.

But I would like to at some point get these representatives in here and talk to them directly so that way they know that we're not going to tolerate this anymore because it is disturbing the neighborhoods.

Okay.

So can I get a motion to motion to the table.

Motion to table made by Council Roy, seconded by Councillor Lopes.

All in favor say aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

See no further business before us.

Most adjourned made by Councillor Roy, seconded by Councillor Pemberton.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Opposed, the ayes have it.

Thank you for me.

We are adjourned at 7:40 p.m.