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2027 Proposed Budget Hearing Day 6 - Sanitation Department - October 19, 2026

City Council — Monday, October 19, 2026
BodyNew Orleans, Louisiana
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, October 19, 2026
StatusFILED
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Speaker 1

0:00

Like it or not, is tourism in the city of New Orleans and when you start to let Area 5 go when you don't clean up after Mardi Gras events.

0:08

I mean, we can basically start to kiss that source of revenue goodbye.

0:17

So in Questica, it shows some reductions to recycling collection contracts.

0:24

And I wanted to know what was being reduced there because I was under the impression that those costs were paid by the sanitation fee.

Unassigned speaker

0:36

So just for clarity, because maybe are you looking at 30 10 and $100?

Speaker 1

0:40

Yes, 30-10.

Speaker 2

0:41

Yeah.

0:42

So those reductions are the reductions for the uh legislative auditor service reduct service location reductions.

0:52

So those are the corresponding for those.

0:54

So you'll see there's a reduction for each service area.

Speaker 1

0:56

Oh, when we uh prune the list basically.

Speaker 2

0:59

That's what those that's what those reductions are.

Speaker 1

1:01

So those reductions are really savings.

Speaker 2

1:03

Yes.

1:04

Okay.

1:04

So based on what we projected for 2027, we were able to reduce that projected cost based on forecasted savings by the removal of those ineligible locations.

Speaker 1

1:13

Okay.

1:13

All right.

1:14

Thank you, Director.

Speaker 3

1:15

Councilmember McCarron.

1:17

Uh just a few follow-up questions.

1:19

Um and and also thank you to you and your team and the workers that are here today.

1:23

Uh, you guys are doing a great job and you're very responsive and and helping clean up, and especially to my office.

1:29

We have a lot of problems sometimes in the Carrollton area.

1:32

Uh so I appreciate that.

1:34

Um Matt, tell me how much it would be to restore these positions.

1:39

Like what it would the cost be.

Speaker 2

1:41

2.1 million dollars.

Speaker 3

1:43

Okay.

1:45

2.1 million.

1:46

And what about any other operations that you would need to restore

Speaker 2

1:52

on positions?

1:54

So if we were looking on the on the other operating side, um

Unassigned speaker

1:58

I

Speaker 2

1:58

mentioned Mardi Gras cleanup is estimated to be 1.8 million dollars for for those services and special events, the area five uh enhanced services that we just talked touched on was six hundred and twenty-eight thousand dollars.

2:12

Uh and the recycling activities outside of curbside collection, so the drop-off hazardous waste day, uh hazardous waste day, um city building and glass recycling is two hundred and sixty-three thousand dollars.

2:26

Um we are continuing to work to hopefully formalize donation agreements with our contractors for 2027 for actually recycling car purchases.

2:35

But if we don't, you know, we would probably you know need anywhere from sixty to a hundred thousand dollars for recycling carts, but I am optimistic that they will um partner with us again for 2027 on that.

Speaker 3

2:47

Okay.

2:47

Yeah, that was gonna be my next question is what is that that cost of recycling and what what would be the plan if we didn't get it donated?

2:54

We we just like wouldn't deliver a cart to somebody and offer them.

Speaker 2

2:58

We would have to either find an alternate source of funding, or yes, that we would uh uh accumulate a backlog of requests in 301 for carts.

3:05

Okay.

Speaker 3

3:06

So 60 to 100K for

Unassigned speaker

3:09

that

Speaker 3

3:10

if we needed to.

Unassigned speaker

3:12

I

Speaker 2

3:12

mean that was that was what we had budgeted kind of as a safe number, but as I mentioned, the you know, the estimated value of the carts that the contractors have already contributed this year is about 125,000.

3:22

So it's it's purely linked to how many people request them.

3:26

So I mean it as you know, if if we're talking the full year, I mean it probably is actually a couple hundred thousand dollars for recycling carts if we don't have any donations at all.

Speaker 4

3:34

Okay.

Speaker 3

3:35

Okay, thank

Unassigned speaker

3:36

you.

Speaker 4

3:37

All right.

3:38

Uh Matt, I I think we've gone through a lot of my questions.

3:42

Um I I do want to say thank you to you and to your staff here.

3:47

Um I I can tell you I made a call to you about a large tire dump on Toledano that was picked up probably within three hours.

3:55

So I just want to thank you.

3:56

And that's the type of service that we're getting right now with the team that you have, um, including the laborers who what is their average salary?

Speaker 2

4:05

So the average starting salary for laborers is in the in the 30 30.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Sanitation and Waste Management█████████████████████████████████████████████67%
Mardi Gras█████████████████26%
Budget Equity Analysis███5%
Public Works█2%
Summary of Proceedings

2027 Proposed Budget Hearing Day 6 - Sanitation Department (October 19, 2026)

The sixth day of the 2027 Proposed Budget Hearings, convened on October 19, 2026, at 12:30 PM, focused on City Services under Deputy CAO Ernest Legier. The agenda included the Department of Safety and Permits, Code Enforcement, and Sanitation; however, the recorded discussion and public testimony exclusively addressed the Sanitation Department. Councilmembers and over a dozen public speakers scrutinized proposed cuts to sanitation services, including Mardi Gras cleanup, recycling, and personnel.

Department of Sanitation Presentation

  • Director Matt presented the 2027 budget, noting reductions in recycling collection contracts resulting from the removal of ineligible service locations, which yielded savings.
  • Key proposed cuts and costs to restore services:
    • Restoration of positions: $2.1 million
    • Mardi Gras cleanup: $1.8 million
    • Area 5 enhanced services: $628,000
    • Recycling activities (drop-off, hazardous waste, glass recycling): $263,000
    • Recycling carts (if donations not secured): $60,000–$100,000 (or up to $200,000 for a full year)
  • The average starting salary for laborers was stated as $30,000 per year.

Council Discussion

  • Councilmember McCarron praised the department’s responsiveness and questioned the cost to restore positions. She stated that cutting the lowest-paid workers ($30,000/year) is “deeply disturbing” and called the proposal to cut Mardi Gras and special event collection “unserious.” She emphasized that residents expect both safe and clean cities.
  • Councilmember Hughes and Councilmember Willard were noted as sharing similar opposition.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Pearl Newman (Louisa Street resident): Opposed the $8 fee increase and layoffs; suggested investigating contract services and charging hotels higher fees.
  • Derek Ridgeley (Sanitation supervisor): Opposed cuts, highlighting the department’s role in Mardi Gras cleanup, storm response (citing Hurricane Ida), tire removal, and blight cleanup. Warned that reductions would harm residents.
  • Michael Caulfield (Sanitation worker): Stressed the department’s unique duties (street sweeping, trash pickup in heat and cold) and warned of rat problems if cuts proceed. Said the department needs more people, not fewer.
  • Tareen Buck (Mardi Gras temporary worker): Reported not being paid for six weeks after Mardi Gras cleanup; demanded timely payment to avoid rent issues.
  • Magali Ortiz (Sanitation Ranger): Noted that in 2026, five active rangers handled 121 adjudication hearings resulting in $615,925 in fines. Asked who would investigate illegal dumping or hold violators accountable if cuts occur.
  • Morgan Clevinger: Criticized contract overpayments (referencing 21,000 addresses charged but not serviced) and suggested funding from businesses benefiting from Mardi Gras (2.1 million visitors). Urged looking at other city funds (e.g., strike force).
  • Magali Ortiz (Worker Center for Racial Justice): Described hazards of Mardi Gras cleanup (dust, broken glass). Commended the department for improving PPE but noted workers are routinely underpaid and paid late in violation of city and state law. Reported that Mardi Gras 2026 generated 1,364 tons of waste. Asked that any cuts not harm workers and that recommendations be adopted.
  • Frank Southall (Jane Clay’s organizing communication manager): Supported timely payment for seasonal workers to prevent evictions. Suggested uptown krewe members (who are often non-residents) could pay higher fees rather than burdening cultural bearers.
  • Alfred Taylor (Sanitation worker): Said he walks 5–6 miles daily, gives 150%, but cannot afford to live in the city. Warned that cuts would cause the city to “stank.” Asked the council to keep the department funded.
  • Jameer Otis (Union representative, Local 2349): Opposed the budget, stating the union and members were not involved in the process. Noted the department is already short-staffed (six workers on Sundays). Mardi Gras overtime is critical for workers; cuts could lead to walkouts.

Key Outcomes

  • No votes were taken; this was a hearing to gather public and council input.
  • Councilmembers expressed strong opposition to the proposed cuts, with multiple members calling them unacceptable.
  • The hearing adjourned with notice that Day 7 would be held on Wednesday, October 21, 2026.

Meeting Transcript

Like it or not, is tourism in the city of New Orleans and when you start to let Area 5 go when you don't clean up after Mardi Gras events. I mean, we can basically start to kiss that source of revenue goodbye. So in Questica, it shows some reductions to recycling collection contracts. And I wanted to know what was being reduced there because I was under the impression that those costs were paid by the sanitation fee. So just for clarity, because maybe are you looking at 30 10 and $100? Yes, 30-10. Yeah. So those reductions are the reductions for the uh legislative auditor service reduct service location reductions. So those are the corresponding for those. So you'll see there's a reduction for each service area. Oh, when we uh prune the list basically. That's what those that's what those reductions are. So those reductions are really savings. Yes. Okay. So based on what we projected for 2027, we were able to reduce that projected cost based on forecasted savings by the removal of those ineligible locations. Okay. All right. Thank you, Director. Councilmember McCarron. Uh just a few follow-up questions. Um and and also thank you to you and your team and the workers that are here today. Uh, you guys are doing a great job and you're very responsive and and helping clean up, and especially to my office. We have a lot of problems sometimes in the Carrollton area. Uh so I appreciate that. Um Matt, tell me how much it would be to restore these positions. Like what it would the cost be. 2.1 million dollars. Okay. 2.1 million. And what about any other operations that you would need to restore on positions? So if we were looking on the on the other operating side, um I mentioned Mardi Gras cleanup is estimated to be 1.8 million dollars for for those services and special events, the area five uh enhanced services that we just talked touched on was six hundred and twenty-eight thousand dollars. Uh and the recycling activities outside of curbside collection, so the drop-off hazardous waste day, uh hazardous waste day, um city building and glass recycling is two hundred and sixty-three thousand dollars. Um we are continuing to work to hopefully formalize donation agreements with our contractors for 2027 for actually recycling car purchases. But if we don't, you know, we would probably you know need anywhere from sixty to a hundred thousand dollars for recycling carts, but I am optimistic that they will um partner with us again for 2027 on that. Okay. Yeah, that was gonna be my next question is what is that that cost of recycling and what what would be the plan if we didn't get it donated? We we just like wouldn't deliver a cart to somebody and offer them. We would have to either find an alternate source of funding, or yes, that we would uh uh accumulate a backlog of requests in 301 for carts. Okay. So 60 to 100K for that if we needed to. I mean that was that was what we had budgeted kind of as a safe number, but as I mentioned, the you know, the estimated value of the carts that the contractors have already contributed this year is about 125,000. So it's it's purely linked to how many people request them. So I mean it as you know, if if we're talking the full year, I mean it probably is actually a couple hundred thousand dollars for recycling carts if we don't have any donations at all.

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