0:00Comments are to be addressed to the chair or specific member of the commission.
0:04These hearings are recorded and broadcast on public access television, audio tapes, and other relevant public records are available in the city planning office or on the city's website at www.nola.gov.
0:20The first order of business is adoption of the minutes of the July 14th, 2026 meeting.
0:35Can we vote our machines or are we voting by um hand?
0:41I don't have a screen.
0:48Short agenda, and uh we can we can all raise our hands.
0:52So a motion and a second for the minutes.
1:04The next docket item is docket item 07326.
1:11Um zoning Docket 07326 is a request for a plan development to permit the adaptive reuse of the former Franciscan Port Claire's monastery into multifamily residential dwellings within the HURD2 district and the CPC character preservation corridor design overlay district.
1:28This request was deferred at the July 14th meeting to allow additional time for review.
1:33The petition site is located at 720 Henry Clay Avenue and occupies an entire city block bounded by Magazine Street, Henry Clay Avenue, Constance Street, and Calhoun Street.
1:44The site is currently developed at the St.
1:46Clair Monastery campus, which contains the historic monastery building, an infirmary, accessory structures, surface parking areas, landscaped open space, and masonry walls on the perimeter surrounding the entire property.
1:58The proposal would preserve and rehabilitate the historic monastery building while constructing two new residential buildings, the demolition of select non-historic accessory structures, new internal circulation and parking areas, and landscaped open space to be accessible to the public and other associated site improvements.
2:18Together, the three buildings would provide 24 residential units, eight in each building organized around a central landscaped courtyard that is proposed to function as a publicly accessible park.
2:30The planned development process is intended to facilitate the adaptive reuse of historic institutional structures by allowing flexibility from certain zoning regulations where appropriate staff finds that the proposal preserves the monastery as the defining architectural feature of the site while returning a long vacant institutional campus to productive residential use.
2:55The proposal includes new residential buildings with a maximum height of approximately 49 feet, where the underlying underlying zoning district permits a maximum height of 35 feet.
3:06Staff finds that the additional height can be appropriate provided the new construction remains subordinate to the historic monastery.
3:13As discussed through the HDLC process, staff supports refinement of the building massing so that the taller portions of the new buildings and oriented are oriented toward the interior of the development and are further differentiated from the historic structure, reinforcing the monastery as the primary architectural feature of the campus.
3:33This proposal also provides 61 parking spaces where 65 are required under the University Area Off-Street Parking Overlay District.
3:42Staff supports these exceptions because requiring full compliance would reduce the site's planned green space in landscaping, which are central to the design concept and public benefits of the plan development.
3:54The proposal for 720 Henry Clay is consistent with the master plan and preserves a designated local landmark and is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood.
4:09Were there any um provisos or um waivers included?
4:14Yes, with three exceptions and one proviso.
4:19Um I have one card, Ron Lazell.
4:23Ron Lazel1000 South Norman C.
4:27Um thank you, Commissioners, for coming here today and for all the work that you do.
4:31I'd like to give a little background on this project, if possible.
4:35Uh first of all, uh acknowledgement to the sisters who have been guardians and and great keepers of this property for so many years.
4:44Um I am sure this is an emotional day.
4:48Uh but they have been working very hard to see that their legacy is kept in this pro uh property moving forward.
4:56I'd also like to acknowledge Tony Elderman, who is our developer of this property.
5:02You know, we're here today on a very big project, and you see what's behind us.
5:07You know, uh Tony met with the neighbors numerous times before the conditional or use or the text amendment process came into play.
5:19So he had worked hard with the neighbors.
5:22Uh everyone that's been involved in this is CPC staff, numerous meetings, zoning staff, housing staff, safety and permits, council office, HDLC.
5:36We aren't just showing here coming up in front of you.
5:39Um hey, here's what we're doing.
5:41This has been highly vetted and has been worked on tremendously, including the council office.
5:48I don't want to exclude the council office.
5:51Uh so this has been all hands working together to see this project move forward.
5:55And in your last CPC meeting, you were the first key part of moving the legislation forward when you approved the text amendment, which allowed this process to move forward.
6:05Of course, all goes through the city council, but again, it has been a collaborative effort.
6:10This is an excellent, excellent addition to the city of New Orleans, and we look forward to your uh approval on this.
6:19I would just like before I end that we make sure and clarify what the provisos and the exceptions are before we vote.
6:28I'll ask when we're done, I'll ask you to read them out loud.
6:31Um are there any other speakers in uh support?
6:36Um I don't have any cards in opposition.
6:38I have one other card.
6:40Johnson, you said you didn't want to speak.
6:43And do you want me to read into the record?
6:46So I'll just enter your card into the record.
6:49So there's no opposition.
6:51Anyone else in opposition here?
6:53Or anybody in opposition, because Ms.
6:55Johnson was for information.
6:58So there's no need for rebuttal because there's no opposition.
7:03Um can you read the the uh provisos and the and the waivers?
7:10The there are um two exceptions included in the report.
7:15Um the first one speaks to the off-street parking.
7:19It says the developer shall be granted an exception to Article 18, Section 18.30 point B, off-street parking requirements of the comprehensive zoning ordinance, which requires 65 parking spaces to require only 61 parking spaces to be provided.
7:34The second exception says the developer shall be granted an exception of Article 22, Section 22.7, required off-street loading spaces of the comprehensive zoning ordinance, which requires one off-street loading space to require no loading spaces to be provided.
7:51The third exception that we spoke to in the presentation is regarding the height.
8:00Um the proposed height is 49 feet, while the HURD2 district only allows for 35 feet.
8:08And so we'll we will be including um the third exception in the final report.
8:15And then the proviso that is in the report is the Department of Safety and Permit shall issue no building permits or licenses for this project until final development plans are approved by the City Planning Commission and recorded with the Office of Conveyances.
8:31Failure to complete the conditional use process by properly recording plans within one year time period or failure to request an administrative extension as provided for in Article 4, Section 4.3H of the comprehensive zoning ordinance will void the conditional use approval.
8:52Um that closes the public hearing.
8:55So um I'm looking for a motion.
8:59I'll make a motion to approve, subject to the provided the exceptions in the proviso.
9:06And second by Commissioner A.
9:07Commissioner Kepper made the motion.
9:09Uh there's a motion on the floor.
9:11If there's no discussion, we'll call for the vote.
9:23It looks like a great development, so congratulations.
9:26Um, and then let me just note that uh Susan Johnson submitted a card, has a comment on the back, and the comment will be entered into the record.
9:36Um move on to the next docket item.
9:48Zoning Docket 03626 is a request by City Council motion for a text amendment to the CZO to define data centers and any related uses to consider whether these should be permitted or conditional in any zoning district or overlay and to implement appropriate use and design standards for the uses not limited to density requirements, soundproofing and safety measures, and other regulations necessary.
10:00Zoning Docket 03626 is a request by City Council motion for a text amendment to the CZO to define data centers and any related uses to consider whether these should be permitted or conditional in any zoning district or overlay and to implement appropriate use and design standards for the uses not limited to density requirements, soundproofing and safety measures, and other regulations necessary.
10:14Staff quickly concluded that the data center use is an atypical one from what usually goes through CPC, and that there is a large variation in intensity based on the size and scale of the use and the impacts from data centers are not just hyper-local land use impacts like occupancy traffic, building design, and lighting, but can be much broader, impacting local supplies of energy or water, and potentially creating major air quality, noise, or water quality issues for nearby residents.
10:42And the greatest impacts come from the really large facilities with power generation on site and/or liquid cooling facilities on site, mostly called hyperscale facilities.
10:53So to inform the recommendations and reports, staff reviewed zoning and land use regulations across the country, either from county, state or local governments.
11:01Staff found that regulations vary.
11:03Some cities or states or counties have moratoriums on data centers, either entirely or beyond some kind of threshold like 10,000 square feet or 50 megawatts of power.
11:13But there are different approaches across the country as the demand for data centers has significantly increased in the past few years.
11:23Staff recommend setting a scale for data center based by establishing four main categories based on square footage and energy consumption.
11:32Staff looked at data center regulations from other places to inform the thresholds along with research on existing data center providers.
11:40So the categories would be accessory, small, medium, or large or hyperscale.
11:47Accessory data centers would serve a primary use at a site and would be no larger than 2,000 square feet and would take up no more than 25% of the gross floor area of the primary use.
11:59Small data centers are would be allowed up to 20,000 square feet with no greater than 5 megawatts of power.
12:07Medium data centers would be allowed up to 100,000 square feet and no greater than 20 megawatts of power consumption.
12:15Large or hyperscale is anything beyond the medium threshold, which would be prohibited citywide.
12:39In the commercial center areas and institutional campus districts, small would be conditionally allowed in C1, C2, C3, EC, MC, MS, or LS.
12:56In Article 16, centers for industry, small and medium data centers would be conditionally allowed in LI, Light Industrial, HI, Heavy Industrial, MI, Maritime Industrial, and BIP, Business Industrial Park District.
13:13In Article 17, the Central Business District, small would be conditionally allowed in CBD 1, CBD 2, CBD 3, CBD 4, and CBD 7, and medium would be conditionally permitted in CBD 7.
13:30We can take a look at the map on the next slide.
13:35Here you can see in red and blue the commercial center areas that would conditionally allow small data centers.
13:43The purple color includes LI, HI, MI, and BIP districts that would support small or medium conditionally.
13:52And the gray area on the map shows the areas within and around the CBD that would permit small as conditional use.
14:00This gray area also includes the CBD7 area, which would allow medium size data centers conditionally.
14:10As we were looking at the data center use type, we realized there are a series of procedural considerations for the use that are atypical.
14:18A new data center would require a review and consideration from entergy, potentially sewage and water board, certainly the building permits division, and so we decided to stipulate these initial considerations as part of the use standards.
14:32So first, all data center applications for conditional use must be pre-reviewed by CURO, entergy, sewage and water board, and a statement of review by those agencies must be provided to CPC before an application can be made to us.
14:48Second, each application would be required to include a general impact assessment to provide information on electrical load, water usage, expected noise levels, and a description of the mitigation efforts to be undertaken.
15:03The building and site design is largely similar to other industrial permitted use types, which are required to comply with the underlying zoning districts regulations for bulk yard design and landscaping.
15:16Staff includes density and distance restrictions.
15:20First, all data centers must be 500 feet, which is roughly three blocks from all residentially zoned properties.
15:29In industrial districts, LI, HI, MI, and BIP data centers must also be 500 feet from one another to limit any proliferation in a certain district.
15:40And in the CBD, only one data center is permitted per building to limit the potential for entire buildings becoming into data centers.
15:49There are some examples of use university campuses seeking to construct data centers nationwide.
15:55Staff includes an allowance for universities and medical facilities subject to the institutional master plan requirements in Article 15 to seek data centers as a use allowance within their master planning process.
16:07Lastly, on-site power generation is prohibited except for backup purposes.
16:13So staff recommends approval of the proposed language.
16:17However, this morning, we realized a noticing issue whereby the description of the zoning docket described the interim zoning district that was previously considered instead of this text amendment to create a definition around data centers.
16:32And because of this, I think we will recommend deferral.
16:37Can you repeat that last part again?
16:41The discovery this morning.
16:42What we found this morning is that while the zoning docket case number was listed on our public notice documents, the description actually referenced the interim zoning district that you all reviewed previously instead of this text amendment.
16:57And so for that purpose, I think we would recommend deferral.
17:03So just to follow up on that, something we've done in the past when we've had a noticing issue and it's really kind of a belts and suspenders thing that we want to make sure that there's no possibility that somebody's going to challenge an ultimate decision based on a procedural uh mistake.
17:25So again, I think what we are going to suggest, and uh Laura, can you just refresh on the timing?
17:36We have to notice it three consecutive weeks, so we're not going to be able to make the August 11th meeting.
17:43Sabine, you would probably.
17:46Yes, the notice for that meeting actually just went out at the end of last week.
17:51So we would suggest the August 25th, I think would be the earliest that we could defer it to.
17:59And do we hold a public hearing, so to speak, if there's anybody here, or do we defer it from vote on a deferral before that?
18:11I mean, I'm comfortable with having if people are here to testify to have them testify.
18:17Yeah, that's usually what we do with the deferral.
18:20And then when we hear it again, does the report get we pick up where we left off, or do we uh read the staff report again and go through this whole process again?
18:32I think what we've done.
18:33We want to hear Laura again.
18:34We've read it again.
18:36Um there's uh just a handful of people here, so um we'll probably do it again.
18:43I'm assuming there will be more people in the audience.
18:46Um is there anybody in the audience who wants to speak on this issue?
18:56Did you fill out a card?
18:59And then uh while while we're getting your card, I have a card from Susan Johnson, but again, you don't want to speak.
19:06So we have one speaker.
19:09And that is Jesse George.
19:12Yes, and that'll be very brief.
19:14Thank you, Jesse Jordan on behalf of the Alliance for Affordable Energy.
19:17Just want to say uh thank you for to the Commission staff for their work on these recommendations.
19:22Um also for including the recommendations that the Alliance provided uh in their report to the Commission.
19:28Uh and we uh are in full support of a prohibition on hyperscale data centers in New Orleans.
19:35Um they represent a major threat to communities around the country and around the rest of the state.
19:40Um, so this is an important step to protect the ratepayers and the citizens of New Orleans.
19:46George, I'm just gonna your address is 4519 South Claiborne, and you're with the Alliance for Affordable Energy.
20:00If there's nobody else in the audience who wants to to uh speak um we had a couple of comments from the Commission.
20:04Commissioner Abeer Yes thank you.
20:06On page four could you pull that up it was the one with the map of the you had the the red shading and like two different colors.
20:33For opening the report like before that you had mentioned the three types of data centers that would be allowed.
20:46So the red what type of data center would that be in the zoning for those areas is that industrial or um the red area is commercial center it's uh the C1, C2, C3 and then some medical education uh areas and that would uh allow conditionally small data centers.
21:15And they would all be conditional use.
21:18Because I just want to I wanted to ask that question because the community is kind of confused you know with the term data center now we have the different categories.
21:28So that needs to be um actually explained so that the public will understand you know what will be allowed if it's going to be allowed.
21:44Um so hyper size is not allowed anywhere?
21:51Yeah yes it's prohibited larger hyperscale so anything greater than a hundred thousand square feet or greater than twenty megawatts would be prohibited.
22:02And that's really based on our conversations with a lot of the different people that we spoke with from a lot of different entities um twenty megawatts is considered a pretty high power draw um as as we understand it's a very like high industrial type of use and so um beyond that is you're getting into a realm of of something I think that didn't seem appropriate um for us even to conditionally consider.
22:35And I had one more question but so hypersize brings to mind hyperdrive from Star Wars which is an alternative dimension across the galaxy at millions of times the speed of light and we probably don't need that in Orleans Parish.
22:51Why did you allow um uh conditional uses in the C B D seem it just strikes me to be inappropriate to have a uh data center for in the midst of um yeah um so what we found is you know there are existing data centers in the C B D that are taking up small office spaces.
23:17We really tried to find out exactly how much office space they were taking up and we were unsuccessful in that endeavor.
23:25But we do know that they there are data centers that exist downtown that offer different services to different types of clients maybe they're hosting their data they're they're um doing other things.
23:37And we felt like that could be an appropriate use for some empty office spaces.
23:44I mean it's a way to use some office existing vacant office space and we talked with other cities and saw use case examples um where they did you know sort of entire building rehabs and they were putting data centers in.
23:58We didn't feel like that was necessarily appropriate for New Orleans as you really want um to to keep those office buildings as like as office buildings and to be utilized that way but this seemed like potentially an appropriate sort of interim use for vacant spaces and so that's why maybe you limited it to one one per building that's why we set a limitation of one per building so 2000 square feet is is roughly oftentimes like the square footage of entire floor.
24:26So we found that to be sort of the high end and then you know it was the sense that um you know you would only have one per building so you would limit that.
24:37To add to that there's one um one category which is the C B D 7 district which is the biomedical district.
25:00And then the electric uh I'm just envisioning a data center that sucks a lot of electricity and some big office building goes dark, which is you know admittedly a um so that would be up that would be part of the enter G review process before it's even submitted to CPC.
25:15So the idea, and that's why we had that first use standard is that that all these applications would sort of be pre-reviewed and pre-approved.
25:23And so entergy would be able to say, oh yes, we can support this type of entergy draw this new facility.
25:32And so we would have proof of that throughout the conditional use process.
25:36So um that would come first.
25:40Any other oh, Commissioner Pochet?
25:42I just have a comment.
25:42A thank you to you and the team that put together this report.
25:46I you're you're tackling a very complex issue.
25:51And I'm happy to know that we're actually deferring this because I'd hope there'd be a lot more public participation um in in this particular docket item.
26:00You've done a great job of a thorough analysis um of a very complex issue and presented it very plainly and clearly with rationale and justification that is very simple to comprehend.
26:13I'm saying that because for the record, I encourage anyone who has an interest in this case to thoroughly read this report because it clearly defines what we're dealing with and what we're not and answers a lot of questions that were in my mind prior to being here today.
26:30So um great job with this.
26:32This is the kind of work that I know is hard to tackle, and um you've set us up for success, the public and the commission in terms of having an honest dialogue and debate debate about moving forward with this.
26:44I also know that this is a an emerging industry.
26:47Um it existed on some microscopic level for a long time, which is what what we identify here in the report.
26:53And you all have uh worked well with some uh comparable cities to learn from their mistakes and devise a set of recommendations that hopefully can be um uh uh a trailblazing as additional cities begin to develop their regulatory environment around this.
27:10So thank you for the work that you all put in this and I again really encourage everyone to read this report very thoroughly.
27:17Yeah, I echo that as you were speaking.
27:20It was easy to follow your rationale going from zoning district to uses.
27:25Um it was clear that you thought about all that.
27:29Um other comments from the commission?
27:32And then we uh would need a motion to defer.
27:36I'd like to move to defer to the August 25th CPC meeting.
27:44Commissioner Abe or seconds.
27:46If there's no discussion, uh a call for the vote.
27:55We'll be back on um the twenty fifth.
28:06George, you're welcome to come back on the twenty-fifth.
28:08But if not, your comments are in the record.
28:11Um ratifications, they're do we have any?
28:18Uh it is in your package.
28:20Uh it is a list of minor subdivision that we are in the process of approving administratively your ratifying or decision that those subdivision can be reviewed and approved at administrative level.
28:34So can we get a motion to approve the subdivision ratifications?
28:38Commissioner Pochet.
28:42Commissioner Abear seconds.
28:52And do I need a motion for adjournment or can I just declare it adjourned?
28:57Always wondered about that.
28:59Can I get a motion for adjournment?
29:01I move to adjourn meeting.
29:05Commissioner Jackson Seconds.
29:09Motion passes, meaning adjourned.