Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the February twenty twenty-six meeting of the municipal arts commission.

My name is Marissa Bowen.

I'm the chairperson.

Three other board members are here with us tonight, Fred Spinowitz.

To my left, Jane Walls and Michael Moreira.

From the building department, we have Joe Gullierwell, and from the Department of Development, we have Kevin Jimenez who will be calling out cases.

Um that is nineteen dash two zero two five application by Lloyd Silverman to install one awning at one thirty-eight North Avenue.

Um list of new cases, first case um on the agenda, um, one dash two zero two six application by Nicola Doyle to install illuminated channel letter sign at twenty east main street.

Um move on to case the second case on the agenda.

Uh case number two.

Application by Jal Ferguson for the installation of glass structures and street level windows as part of a private arts better at eleven garbage.

Oh.

The first two, and we have the different pieces of the last three.

We have having the works as well.

We'll pass these two.

These are the same things.

These are the same, yeah.

Beautiful.

Yeah.

Nice.

Okay.

Are you ready to install?

It's uh well, so these two are finished.

Um so originally um original proposal we were um gonna do the first two install and then complete the last three, but uh just to talk with the building further.

We've kind of slightly shifted that to installing them all together uh when they're all finished, I think it'll be a bigger impact.

Um, you know, it'll be big old thing.

From nothing to you know fully uh beautified.

Okay.

So we're just here to vote.

Yeah, they they gave an informal presentation before if you remember, uh, but they didn't have the formal application and referral and all that.

So now they have all their formal paperwork in and they're back for a vote.

Someone likely to motion to approve this.

Motion to approve.

Second.

All in favor?

Motion passes.

Thank you.

Much appreciated.

So we're gonna hope that.

Yeah, I know it's been a couple times now.

But yeah, we're super excited to get it all finished in touch.

Uh okay, so like after this, we'll get full of the five.

Yeah, we'll check the insurances and all that whole permit.

And then the permit's valid for like six months or so.

Well now.

Yeah, okay.

All right, yeah, you're good.

You got plenty of time.

All right, thank you.

Great, appreciate you all.

Thank you so much for the first time.

Okay.

Uh case 3-2026 application by Lewis Nava to install a front and back lid channel letter sign at 583 Main Street.

Okay.

Hello everybody.

What up for Nanny?

Hello.

Alright, so we we are proposing front and illuminated channel letters mounted on uh on the ACM panel.

Uh if you guys see, so we were proposing to have the panel the same color as the wall.

And yeah, just letters mounted directly to it.

Um the method of installation and the dimensions.

So we we we're here because the size was no over the the legal size.

But uh we we believe the size is correct because no, the storefront is pretty big.

We have a we have a big storefront.

And we feel like the size is it fits well with the storefront because it's it's a little big.

Is that the current color of the trail around the windows?

Yes.

How much over the the legal size?

I think uh they're asking for 22 inches where 16 is permitted, and a cumulative total of 28 were 24 is committed.

If I may, um so they're all six inches taller.

The existing sign that we have is 48 inches high.

So you're going small smaller.

Oh, we were making it smaller.

Okay, and uh and then and maybe there's signs nearby that are similar.

Size color larger and larger on the yes.

So I think if it's it looks great when it's out, it looks good.

It looks really good.

It looks very yeah, out of the ordinary also looks good.

It's very colorful and it's nice.

Yeah, thank you.

Is there equal blank space on either side of the bar?

Yes.

Right on the entrance.

Yeah, it's 10 30.

And that restaurant's already getting we're just changing the sign.

Exactly the same name.

Same name, same owner.

Yeah, it's been in business for 10 years.

Okay.

Anyone have any questions?

Concerns?

Is there a motion?

Motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Michael, all in favor.

Motion passes.

Thank you.

That's great.

Thank you.

We'll be in touch.

All right, thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, don't go anywhere.

Yeah, so next application on the agenda is 4-2026 application by Lewis Nava to install one awning at 363 North Avenue.

Okay, so this one.

Alright, we're proposing a brand new awning.

Um Black Sombrella fabric.

You know, new custom welded frame.

Uh painted lettering.

The name right in in the center with with this tag lines on the bottom.

The dimensions.

And 24 inch projections uh to overpass the gate, the the gate that they have then.

Okay, so then this is gonna be sloped, obviously.

So the lettering, the way we're looking at it isn't really true to the way it's gonna be because it's gonna be a little sloped, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

But it it was it's still gonna be visible.

Right.

It's not it's not uh like a really big slant.

It's right.

It's visible.

No, it's just it's not graphically represented.

Yeah, but I can understand what you're doing.

No, the owner has to remove that gate because it was installed without a permit and you're not permitted.

Oh okay, okay.

So I don't know how to fix your timing for installation, but then I want to resolve that before you put that owning on top of the door.

Okay, definitely.

Yeah.

Okay, I was not aware of that.

And why are you here for a barrier?

Just because of for the oil.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, the letters are under under the requirements.

Okay.

It's a good neutral color.

It's a good furnace.

And they're using black.

Yeah, nice.

Our neutral color, yeah.

Yeah.

Now I know.

Yeah, yeah.

Keep that in mind.

All right.

Okay.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All in favor.

Motion passes.

One more.

Okay.

Alright.

Um, the next application on the agenda is 5-2026.

Application by Louis Nava to install two signs at 16 Division Street.

Alright.

So here we're proposing two ACM panels.

Um just mounted directly to the existing signs.

Um the reason.

The reason why why we're here is because it has two names, so one on one side and the name on the other side.

Uh the the reason the owner wants it on both sides is because they both look like different businesses.

And they're not like they don't know that he owns the other side.

So they they get a little confused.

So that's why he wants the name on both sides of the business.

What's that in the middle?

Those signs aren't up yet.

Because I I've gone there.

And I know it used to be at Epamania, right?

Oh, yeah, you're you just refresh my memory.

Yeah, so this is a legalization.

Yeah, this is a legalization.

Okay.

When did they go up?

Uh and that's what's the banners.

No, then this isn't up.

Well, not from my knowledge, the unless they're banners that have the same.

Yeah, well, I I I did go there and I saw something.

That's why I'm just wondering.

Yeah, it's at Epomania in the in the window.

Right, no, no, because the exercise is on the bottom.

I think that I saw something.

But maybe not.

Yeah, no, no, um, from my knowledge is not up.

Unless they put banners without without telling me, I'm not sure.

Well, you didn't build it, right?

No, you didn't install it, so I gotta go through what we did.

So the reason why it so it's really the the issue is putting two sites.

The same thing twice.

Yeah.

Do you have the referral in there?

It's two separate answers.

Yeah, and it's also the shop is decreasing a little bit.

And the setting in between, yeah.

Yeah.

So that if you're coming from one side you're coming from the other, you'd be able to see them both.

Correct.

And the size is okay.

Uh the height did you.

I didn't bring that folder because that wasn't this one wasn't on the other list.

So I don't remember what I wrote for.

Two signs.

And sign area.

So the letters must be in compliance.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, I can't tell what that says.

If they put one across both stores, it would be lost.

It would be so much empty.

Um you go back to the store picture?

Yeah, it would be lost.

Um if they just went across.

Yeah.

And what else?

It would get lost because it's in between the trees in between and the light poles in between.

Okay.

Looks good.

I don't know.

The choices are good.

Yeah.

You know, the lettering and somewhat?

For this one?

Yeah, or for all of them.

Oh, you?

Yeah, we redesigned them.

Nice.

Yeah.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay, that's okay.

Motion to approve.

All in favor?

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you, everybody.

All right.

276 eye hangers?

Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Thank you.

Have a good night.

Yeah, that one wasn't on the other agenda side.

This one.

Oh, okay.

It wasn't on the place agenda.

Oh, that's what makes sense.

That's American sign.

JC sign?

Is it one would go down?

Beautiful.

Nice.

America signs and awnings.

America's American American.

America.

Okay.

Alright.

Um the next application on the agenda is app applicant application 6-2026.

Application by Bayesian Chowdery to install two new flat panel signs and two new awnings for total wireless at 519B Main Street.

So there's uh two awnings going on here.

So this is a corner store.

So there's one awning on this side.

Um corner piece is gonna be attached here, and there's gonna be another awning on this side.

Let me pull up the PDF.

What corner is this Joe Main and what?

Uh Memorial Highway.

So that's the other side.

So there used to be an awning there, as you can see.

Um there was a storm that happened and it got knocked down, so we're just trying to replace it uh with a clean fabric.

So we're not really changing the dimensions.

It'll be the same exact dimension as it was.

We're just changing the fabric to be new.

That's all.

A different color.

Yes.

In a different color, yeah.

So new business going in there.

Okay.

Is this the business brand color?

Yes.

It is have a sign application as well for signs above the awnings, it's the same color, but the signs are compliant.

So easy, easy to fill out your head.

I thought it was all in the same rendering, but it might not be.

Does the awning have to be red?

I think it's orange.

What color?

What's the uh it's red?

It is red.

Yeah, it's in is in cut uh it's in the same color scheme of the carriers and company.

Yeah, I'd like to see the the colors of the sign.

Which is total the total sign with that client.

Oh, yeah.

Well there'll be a there'll be a total wireless sign above the that's a lot of red street color.

And this is the main street side.

You know, if you did it black, it would stand out more.

Yeah, um, you know, I mean if you did if you did the awning in a dark color, like in a black, then the the main would stand out more.

If you look from the screen and try to look inside the store, it's already like you can kind of see in the it's almost pitched dark, even with the lighting, it's dark.

Having a black winding won't open it.

I think it would kind of almost darken it more.

Yeah.

It's kind of harsh.

Yeah.

You don't have a sample of the actual color, do you?

The picture is uh pretty accurate white.

So it's not red, it's like a red orange.

No, it's a red picture.

Right.

Yeah.

I think you're like that.

Uh size already are total.

This signal's been approved.

Yeah, the total red.

Yeah.

And the audience's gonna be the same color as I reapproved the sign?

No, we didn't have to because it's a couple parameters, yeah.

What's next to this on the there's nothing there?

A diatrist or something?

Which way on on a memorial?

A memorial.

Oh, if you go there is the dietress if you go.

That's the next corner.

Yeah, there's nothing on the new restaurant going in next to them on the main street side that wraps around to the memorial highway side.

So I have a picture of another store.

Uh this is in Jersey.

I related to here, but this is what it looks like.

It's right against the brick because we don't see it.

That's nice, right against the brick without an awning.

This is what's good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

Do you need the awning?

Uh that's what was there before, so they approved it based on what was already there.

But do you need it?

Stop saying whether we approve or is it possible to remove the awning?

Just remove the awning.

Um the awnings already been taken down.

It's missing as of now.

Um you have a photo of it without the awning?

As of right now?

Uh-huh.

No.

It's just that I I really think that the the the bright color the same as the it really detracts from the sign.

You know, the the awning is so big, it's the same color as the sign.

You look at the awning more than the sign, I think it would be who uh it would be beneficial.

Just have the sign.

If you just had the sign, or if you had a uh a more neutral color for the awning.

Correct.

White, maybe without the awning, it would show the store a little bit.

Exactly a lot more.

Exactly.

Right.

It kind of hides the store.

You gotta Google some total.

Yeah, I'm thinking.

There is this color scheme that they have as well.

It's uh would you consider this?

Can you just show us some total wireless locations?

Yeah, just locations that have just the locations to see how they look with awnings and without awnings.

You see the same?

You see the one to the left?

Yeah, the darker color.

Does that compete with the sign?

Yeah, and the sign stands out.

First awning?

Yeah, it looks nice.

That's what we're doing.

I don't think it needs an awning.

Uh to me, it looks like a- No, I agree.

I agree with that.

But if you're gonna do an awning, then if you need to do an awning, I I I don't see the need.

Can you scroll down a little bit more?

Sure.

The ones without awnings, I most of them have don't have most of them seem to be a different shape than his rectangular sign as well.

Yeah.

Um they don't have awnings.

And you say the awnings are on both sides of the street, correct?

Correct?

Are they the same size awning on each side?

Yes.

The words are not on the awning, so it's not like the awning is being used to bring into a track.

Kind of coming down the bla uh main street.

Do you know if the new business is going in next to you or gonna put an awning up as well?

Or have you talked to no?

I have no idea what they're in.

Just curious.

Yeah, they're they're stuck in the whole permanent process.

Are you the store owner or the sign of the signal?

Are you the sign installer or the store owner?

So you're the store owner.

Um would you consider it without an awning?

Without an awning?

Just because it was there, does it does I mean I think it looks clean without looks more modern?

Um was considering, I mean, the part of the appeal of having that awning is having that color just kind of just drawing attention to it.

If you this which is why I'm asking you, would you consider dulling it with that teal color?

If you would consider it because it maintains that same color schemes of the company, and um again it the teal is also just as appealing.

Are you installing a sign on the main street side and the memorial highway sign?

That's that's a lot.

It's gonna look good.

I don't disagree.

Yeah.

I I think the on they just like I said, the color contrast with the teal and the red, it that works.

I just think it draws a lot of attention.

Can you go back to the to to our the application?

Oh, sure.

Yeah.

These are nice storefronts, and it's a nice building as well.

And I don't think the do the stores to the right have awnings.

The memorial highway side, he has a few storefront windows because the way the buildings oriented.

No, they just had the awning over the first window.

There was no awning over the other windows.

No, it was just the corner.

So then let's keep it uniform.

There are no awnings in the buildings.

There might be more down memorial highway.

Kevin, you want to bring up the street view, maybe?

I got you.

It's an awning without words, you know.

Right.

So then it's not a good thing.

I think the use is some of the things that we're going to do.

The one before it didn't have words either, it was just the color.

It's expensive and it's did you buy the awning already?

Yeah, paying a down payment to the contract.

Oh, okay.

No awnings.

So there's a new business going in directly to the left of them.

All right.

And down memorial.

But I think Memorial might have had some.

No.

These stores they have awnings.

But you see, they're all dark.

Yep.

They all have one.

So there's like every store from here has one.

This green one, this blue one.

Lighter blue one is a darker blue one.

That's a lot of red for the corner.

It would even be a lot of teal for that corner.

Either way, it would be a lot for that corner.

Go back up the street just to see it to the right or left.

To the left.

This back this back window is part of your store.

Yes.

This is part of the store.

It's really not needed.

I don't think it's needed.

It's also it's detracting from the side of the building.

The building is beautiful.

And that's a plaza that's used for uh for all different events too.

Maybe one awning just on the main street side.

Go to mainstream, go to the main street, let's see, main street.

But not in red.

The door and the entrance is on both sides or on one side.

Which side?

From main street side.

On the main street.

Yeah, like I'm pointing right at the end.

All up Main Street.

There's no awnings on Main Street.

No, not until you get to uh Squina.

But then they still have their side.

Yeah, right?

Yeah, you can.

Yeah, that's it.

Yes.

Sun's on that side.

The sun comes over.

So if we're sitting where we're where Michael and Joe and I are sitting, the sun comes up here and goes diagonal across.

Um and it's usually blocked now by the leaf and by the Clintons.

So it's not a functional awning, it's a decorative awning.

Exactly.

Right.

And then the sun sets over by the door.

What do you think, Fred?

You know, it it's hard for us to say no to you.

That would have been done ten minutes ago.

Part of what we're concerned about, it's also the look for all of the show.

And if something is screaming at you and hitting you, uh that's a uh uh kind of offensive rather than a complimentary.

And so what we're trying to do is neutralize that.

Clearly, the sign is going to attract people.

The red is gonna be there.

But if there's too much of something, it almost it hurts.

Right.

But would you this is what I'm asking?

Would you consider the teal?

Personally, I think it's going in the wrong direction.

I think the teal in the and that little bit of red is doing the house.

Well, that's the franchise colors.

That's why.

Why don't you like it?

Why are you against the black?

We don't have any signage.

Or nothing.

Well, the the black comes off a bit neutral, whereas like almost dulls it.

Like and it's already dark to begin with.

Yeah.

It almost kind of obscures like just not having anything would make your store.

Your store look bright, cheerful, bright, polished, um, modern.

Instead of having this awning, which is an older type of look.

So if you're trying to attract the younger customers in the area who live in the downtown, and they're plentiful, which is exactly what you want.

You know, come in, buy a new product, you know, look around our shop, get to know us.

Right.

Then the goal, you know, could be to have a more modern looking exterior.

Unless the awning is covering something that's bad.

That's bad.

You see?

I I I kind of think so, because like you see this part right here in front of the store?

Yeah.

It looks like there used to be an awning kind of built in to the like a suffit.

Um so similarly, we have something you see right here?

Uh-huh.

It used to be something that kind of sticks out.

So you never put some nice signage up there.

Oh, here it looks a little, you know, off.

You've taken the the awning down already.

Oh, I didn't know.

Nature didn't.

Okay, okay.

No, the fabric of the frame.

The frame is the whole thing.

Why don't you try?

Why don't you just try the sign for a while and live with it for a month and and and see how you feel about it?

See how it's how it looks to you.

We're not saying no.

But we're saying maybe you come back after you if you still want the awning, then you can come back and reapply, but try it just with the sign to see how it's or a smaller awning.

To lighting.

Or a smaller awning or something.

Lighting on the sign.

So that maybe a trim to cover that that that ugly part.

Just kind of live with it for a month or so.

And and just because honestly, I actually had that option back in December.

Um to do it.

Joe and I we were talking about it.

I basically waited two months to kind of get this awning thing done.

Like, and and you know, we really wanted this for Christmas, you know.

We I even paid for a center.

Santa came and we were trying to do all kinds of stuff, and we I suffered through it just to kind of get through the awning.

So not to say I don't want to consider it.

It just kind of hurts right now to talk about that to say, hey, let's drop this whole awning thing.

I mean, maybe it would be beneficial to have the fabric sample from the installer.

Uh-huh.

So they could get a clearer depiction of the color.

And then maybe an option for the pictures with the sign and the awning and um yeah, I mean the pictures are here.

I'm not sure why it's not there, but um, you know, you have that option too.

You need there's only four board members here tonight.

So you need four yeses.

No, I get it to get them approved.

But you do have the option.

To adjourn, we can go back to the sign permit that we talked about as an option.

Okay, well, you see, um somebody here has uh a tent, a car yeah, that's just a little bit of a different thing.

The sign is huge, so it doesn't really sign temperature.

You see the one to the left has a has a standing seam roof type.

Yeah, but again, it's neutral.

Right.

Matches the building.

It matches probably the aluminum uh uh storefront.

There you go.

Yeah.

That's uh if you go back to the search, I think there was an awning and sign one next to that image.

This this is actually that's the color right there.

Does the awning have to be this size?

Since it's just decorative, it's not you're not using it for for for shade.

Could it be smaller?

How would you make it smaller?

I mean, there's a window, and that's the pillar, like that's the brick column, so it would have to go there for structural purposes.

It would have to go.

The height or the projection.

Yeah.

So if you look at the restaurant down the street, they're wanting to project out maybe a foot.

Like a box that comes out.

Whereas this projects out further.

No, this right here we have a colour box, a little bit more fabric box that comes around.

Yeah, I don't mind bringing it closer.

Right.

Right.

For me, it's the color, like I don't know.

Right.

So you exploring the option of less projection.

Or just you know, they have like a fabric strip that goes around, like uh it's kind of like a little bit of a little black awesome.

Yeah, and it's a little shift that would cover that part that you're trying to cover, but not be a complete awning that comes apart.

It would be like a and that would kind of like take away from the purpose of the awning altogether.

And the purpose of the awning to for to you is to attract people to this color.

The awning serves multiple purposes.

When there's raining situations, like we're a new store, right?

We're a new brand, especially in New Rochelle.

These guys are all over the place.

Well, our guys like to stand outside, they'll they'll they're talking to people anybody walking by, and the weather's not always ideal.

Having an awning helps with that, given that if it does rain, they have an opportunity to talk to people while they're outside.

People are not uh not uh gonna be likely to stick around and hang around while it's raining so badly if we you know don't we have an awning.

Um and as well as the fact that as I told you earlier that I think that color does appeal to the eye, it does bring people in.

If you if you have an old uh what about what about if you have black awning and you have a red return over here, that strip will mimic the rectangular sign, and that might be a better way of attracting the eye.

Does everybody I don't know.

Can we see friends?

I think that's better.

It's better.

It's better.

But still no awning.

Yeah.

Yeah, I agree.

No awning.

He's having a hard time and we're trying to accommodate that.

But imagine this one awning and contrasting color.

Right.

I and usually when they do awnings, people tend to have the same color to be consistent.

Yeah, we even want the usual.

You want people to say, put that story, it's unusual.

I mean, how do you guys feel about the teal?

Is it too much?

I mean, if you want to bring back a rendering and a color sample with them, I think the board would have an easier time making that that call.

I mean, you see you see this uh that's a similar type of color.

This is just a pause.

There was the photography studio.

And the teal no.

And we said we're trying to make everything uniform being black.

That's not necessarily black.

Right neutral and right, in some areas.

Right, yes.

We can't just say it's black.

It's right, but it's neighboring business, it may be browns and right.

And when you look down the street at La Asquina, they have a black awning.

Yes.

Yeah.

And the awning is may have stripes on theirs too, I'm not sure.

If that's that one or I'm taking that different one.

They're on the corner of um Maine in Maine and Division.

Yeah, well, what store is that?

What do we sell?

Um it's a restaurant, it's spectacular.

Okay.

Yeah, it's great.

It's it's not just one awning, it's it's two awnings.

Right.

It's one on each side.

So it's uh it's a big spin of of of color on that corner.

Um there's only four board members here tonight.

Um I'm getting a feel that if we vote it might not go your way.

Right.

So and that I and I I I want you to be happy with your with your business, but but uh but uh what I'm feeling from the rest of the board members is that they may they may vote no if we vote on this.

So we're we're trying to work with you by giving you some alternatives.

Um we can adjourn and you can come back with something different.

I I I don't think from personal though, I think we didn't know because we burn a lot of time on this.

Um what would help push this along today?

Like I I'm looking to try to get a solution today.

No one like I said, it's hard for the board to make a decision because you don't have a fabric sample confirming the color.

Uh the board made some suggestions on that would work.

You know, whether it's one of those.

You guys are two awnings or reducing the 28 inch projection of the awning.

So uh there's a few options or no awning.

No awning.

It's really so would you uh would you be okay?

Uh I think I think I I think we could figure something out with the black.

Not uh I I do want to keep that where my people are walking underneath the store where it's raining.

I think that serves as a greater purpose for me as far as the awnings concerned.

Would you guys agree to leave it with black to wrap around?

Solid.

Without any signage, no words, nothing, just black awning.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I'll have the address on it.

Like, yeah, look at the big thing.

I want to see a rendering of it.

So if not that, then I mean to get a unanimous decision right now.

Uh what other color and not black?

What what other color would would we suggest that's not black?

White.

Do you want to bring the building up so you can see the color of the building?

Yeah.

Um the buildings like a tan.

I think a different style of of the awning.

Like that little block, that little strip awning that would go around and cover the parts that you don't like.

Yeah, but he wants to be able to have people under the awnings that don't get to not get wet, right?

When it rains.

And you have people just hanging on the corner.

Right, then you're gonna have people hanging on the corner.

Right.

You run the risk of people hanging out on the corner underneath your awning.

Smoking.

Right.

Is that building?

Is that that building that taupe color that they so what about matching the color of the awning to the stone to the concrete?

No.

That way you people are gonna be dry.

And we're not gonna be angry.

I need a unanimous decision on the warning, because it seems like one board member is not agreeing to an awning altogether.

I think there's more than one that's not agreeing.

Um Kevin, do you suggest we vote?

And um you can ask the applicant if he wants to vote.

Or I mean like they mentioned if they do go to a vote, the likelihood of getting an approval tonight will be will not be high.

So uh for the sake of putting up the sign, I think isn't it?

I think you could put up the sign.

Yeah, that is within code.

Once it gets the permit.

For the sake of moving forward on today.

Maybe you could you maybe you could put the sign up and then maybe re- re- rethink what you're doing, consult with someone that you know that could provide something a little different that might be more, you know, in context with the neighborhood.

That's what we're looking for.

Right.

And maybe touch base with the business next door because they're gonna be applying for something in the near future.

Well, yeah, I'll because they're a new business that we maybe if it's continuous through all the businesses.

Sure.

No, no, I'll touch with what's going on, but it just I was hoping to be consistent with everybody that's already there.

Right, because with the right, it won't be.

That's the thing.

It won't be.

Well, well, let's change okay.

Say I agree to the change of color.

Would you guys be okay with the awning?

That's the only thing.

And from what I'm hearing, possibly more than one board member here is gonna deny it.

So that's gonna be the case.

I mean, those two one or two board members that would uh be against awning.

Is there anything in terms of an awning or design idea that you guys had that you may say yes to?

It's just not necessary.

Uh I would like to see this building without the awning for a while with the signs up.

Yeah, I understand completely what you're saying about wanting to have your associates outside talking to people, um, looking for new business.

I I understand that completely.

From a design standpoint, I don't think it's needed.

And I think it's going to create a different type of corner there than would be desired for your new business.

That might be detrimental to your new business instead of helping to promote it.

And being a downtown resident, a downtown owner, it is important to support your businesses in this area.

I mean uh I appreciate you sharing your opinion.

I I've been doing this phone thing for about 20 years.

I've owned over a hundred retail stores.

Awning helps.

Just my experience.

But uh if we go for the sake of Pat just moving forward tonight, which uh ultimately that's the goal here.

Um I think we're gonna have to do just the sign for now.

And if we could get the uh the table the issue on the awning for future events and come back with it so that maybe one awning is all you need.

After you have the signs up for a while, you might realize that you only need an awning on one side.

You might just need it on the main street side.

I'm okay with that too.

Would you guys be okay with that as well?

But that we can we don't see that, so we we we need to see that.

Okay.

So then we'll think about just one maybe just on the main street side.

I need to get the sign up for now that just leave it for where you're signed separate.

Yeah, you have to work.

So the signs look good.

Yeah, so let's let's table it, I guess then for now and then don't we'll just put it up.

We'll just get to sign up and then you can always send the board two options for your next street.

One awning just on Main Street, or you you might not find that you need it wrapping all the way around.

I know the hangout will be right there where the little step is.

That's on the memorial side.

Oh because that's where you can stand on the awning.

On the main street side, there's no you might not be sheltered that much by that awning.

I mean it projects twenty.

But on the other hand, it doesn't rain it all the time.

Yeah, it just I mean, it doesn't it's not like more of the tropics, you know.

It's just once in a while.

So it's just still look at it for a while just with the signs.

And then if you still want the awning, you can come back with a different design of maybe uh one that doesn't project so much.

Um maybe one that just goes around the corner, kind of very stylish, just around that area, maybe about this, just to cover that part.

Something that's more with with a it's more flat like that, you know.

Mm-hmm.

Like a box.

Yeah.

It's like a box awning that goes around.

It's like an alignment of the color, it'll be your whole color wrapping around the building, which would be more part of the uh a design instead of just a little awning sticking out.

Okay.

I mean, yeah, like like I said, uh let's let's do that for now.

Um do the two signs without the awning.

We'll write it out, see how it goes.

We could always revisit and then come back with uh a couple of options.

Consider a box, a thin uh like a ten inch box wrapping around that area, that area that you want to cover.

Is that something everybody would have?

But is that job to design it for you?

That's why I suggested bringing some options options.

Okay.

So we'll we'll we'll we'll resubmit and go from there.

All right, okay.

Call me about the sign permit, we'll talk about that this week.

Okay.

All right.

No.

Just need that that paper.

Yeah, we should have checked in from that show.

Yep.

Applicant request an adjournment.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

All right.

Um the next case on the agenda is case 7-2026.

Application by James Wang to install three signs at 64 Center Avenue.

Hello, everyone.

Oh, I looked at this.

This is nice, Jane.

So the third one, whatever the third one.

Yeah, you could just there we go.

Awesome.

Okay.

So it's we have sign over the front door, the glass one.

But really, we wanted to add a blaze sign too, so that's what this was really for.

Um yeah, the the design, everything is from the franchise.

The franchise has over a hundred stores through L the US.

I do feel like we need the blaze sign because if you look to the right and left of it, um those buildings stick out, and without really having that lay sign, you know, you it's very easy to miss the sign over the glass.

So the sign over the door is already there.

No.

No, it's a raw space right now.

There's nothing in the store at all.

So it's what those are vinyl graphics on the window.

Okay, so it's three signs.

It's it's the blade sticking out.

It's the one on the on the and what's the third one?

The two sides of the of the projecting sign.

Each side of the side.

Each side is considered a sign.

Do we have another uh can you see this from another angle?

We can see the snow.

Uh I think this was the only yeah, this is a zillion image.

Where's the projection sign?

It's oh it's right.

Yeah, they some of them they look really nice because they've got that cohesive look and it gives it a small town feeling.

And it's nice to see them also as you're walking and you can see, oh, there it is.

This looks really good.

And you know, like I mentioned, I feel like I do need that sign if you look to the right and left of us the space, those buildings jet out.

Right.

So without that blade sign, it's really easy to miss the store.

Yeah.

Between main and even yes, yeah.

It's in the um the in the arc in the new building.

And it looks like it's just the left of the front door.

Okay.

Any questions, Red?

Okay.

Okay.

Motion to approve.

Second, all in favor.

Okay.

She does this.

All right.

Thanks, everyone.

Thanks.

Just wait for the permit to install.

All right.

Um, we'll do a second call on uh the first case.

Um we're gonna call uh one one-two zero two six application by Nicola Doyle to install illuminated channel letter sign at 20 East Main Street.

All right.

Um we have now we're putting the uh the end of the cases for this agenda.

We'll now be moving on to the administrative items.

We have one artist certification.

Um Robert Gomez.

So I was sure to access those PDFs, but it was saying request access, but I did put your links here, so you can um this is what I was able to do with those links that I got on just so they can get a sense of timer.

Yeah, so I'm gonna um just in the interest of time um I'm gonna put uh two minutes on the timer and you just have this app this two minutes to tell the board who you are, what you do and what you want.

Because I prepare everything, so I'm supposed to show everything in this port of folio.

I mean I can always share the the portfolio with the with the board uh post meeting, um but we really just want to use this time for you to just talk about why you've applied to be an artist, a certified artist and give us a little bit more detail about what you do and that's that's essentially what I speak with you early and not uh come prepared to anything because I'm check the email today like but I don't know if you see all the.

We can pass this around.

Yes, we might okay.

So what do that?

If it is 12 years, yeah, so as you speak, I'll just I have to do that.

I have like a crew uh 12 years ago um with uh artists from Connecticut and New York I'm like uh the leader.

So I bring uh artists to this big projects, so I wanna be more part of new Rochelle, you know.

I live here, so yeah.

I do too many techniques, too many experience, so I mean I I am around colors and texture every day, so it's my life.

Here, like uh in this website, um just show um basically like the commercial but I'm here more for the artistic side so we can see you're a painter, like I said.

Yes, but I create um too many different try to show that they are just a surface.

So the question again is what is this artist rather than that?

So here um is you can see part of my history here.

We provide this service but I'm focused in bring people um lead uh with art so I know I'm in the middle of cost construction, but my customer I'm focusing on art, blind wash, data.

So we start to this customer uh create different story.

I run like uh very important projects, not from more months, from years.

So we are from Connecticut um New York.

I live here in New Rochelle, but like I say um we are from from Long Island um Connecticut.

Yes, I run this business from 12 years ago.

Um architect?

No, I work with uh architect but focus in this in this vision like with art.

So I I get help getting with this customer because it's not easy.

I'm not painting like commercial, it's something different.

We create more like history.

Um I work also with my employees in in this line, you know.

I try to uh focus in in this eye, I know I have to sell construction, but we are in this art, so I'm a painter, I uh our creator.

So all of these things you're painting the surface.

You're painting the surface that the architect builds.

You're painting the walls, you're painting yes, but I work with um linewash, dead a lack, plaster, different techniques.

We create um unique piece.

Like it's not like commercial paint now.

It's something very very different.

I mean every corner in the house is special.

We start with speaking with the customer because obviously this customer is loving the art and it's in the medium of different kind of people, right?

So we start uh speaking with the the per the with the person and then I don't know, it's like a performance.

I can come here and say, uh no, I'm not like this.

I I have to feel because like this uh I lead my people.

We are 12 people.

Uh we get in big projects, but it's different, it's not like a paint.

Um I'm looking for uh sometimes I use paint, right?

But no, we focus on big projects with different techniques.

Depending on what customer give me like a green card of um with this palette of color, let's go.

But we're going in plaster, too many techniques, um, too many pain different.

So I like to show you my because here also is like a half of my project.

So I want to I want to show you all of my like this standpoint.

This is a performance.

This is on yeah, we showed that on the screen.

Everything is by like uh like I say this is two by two West Like Mahapack.

This coost this customer uh give us a green green card of in one day.

Uh we create every every everything in this house is is is uh art.

It's unique painted surfaces.

Yeah, but this is um it's not only paint.

Also, it's not Venetian uh Venetian plaster.

It's a mix of spontaneous, you know, it's like a performance.

So um the next steps will be that um uh follow up with you within a week, like I mentioned.

Um they'll take their time to review and I'll also forward them the portfolio as well.

So that you see the application, yeah, and they'll look more.

So where can I provide uh because uh we provide everything, but yeah, I can no you can set send it to my email, okay?

And like I said, I'll share it with the board and they'll they'll do some further because like I said, they don't do voting here, so there's no decision that's given right now.

It's just more so you know just opposite to me.

Yeah, introduction.

Yeah, thank you.

Okay, all right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

Good night.

I well, my company, well, the the gentleman came earlier on to represent my company, Gerald Art.

Um he told me that he got approved.

But um based on their certain things happened with the shutter, and I'm not getting full understanding of it.

I was wondering if I could step up so that's the same.

Yeah, can you come here?

Thank you for 363 not.

Thank you very much for it.

Are you the owner for that?

Yes, I'm the owner of your art.

Which application was it?

363.

Did you have questions about the violation for the roll-down gate?

Yes.

Okay, we could discuss that after the meeting.

That the board has no determination in that.

It's a zoning regulation that doesn't permit them on the outside of the building.

So I think the inspector issued you a violation.

He's the one that you really should be speaking to.

But I'm happy to take a few minutes to talk to you after the meeting.

Okay.

So once it's concludes, you can see.

This is still live on TV.

So thank you for the first time.

I'm happy to help you, you know, after the meeting.

Alright, thank you.

Yes, thank you very much.

Alright, so I'll just wait off.

Yeah, if you don't mind.

Alright, thank you.

Alright, so we have no more cases this evening.

Okay.

Uh is there a motion to adjourn?

Motion to adjourn.

All in favor.

Yeah.

Meetings adjourned.

Thank you.