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North Kingstown Planning Commission Meeting - October 1, 2024

Planning CommissionTuesday, October 1, 2024
BodyNorth Kingstown, Rhode Island
SessionPlanning Commission
DateTuesday, October 1, 2024
StatusFILED
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First item on the agenda item 3A is a minor preliminary plan modification unified development plan review for a preliminary land development project application of AR building company for post-road apartments, a 77-unit major land development located off of post-road assessors plat 136 lot 9 and 21 zone post road.

0:23

Um the applicant is here.

0:26

Um just so you know our process staff will um walk us through and if there's any questions uh with this one I'll leave it up to you if you want to present if anyone has any particular questions, but it seems pretty minor and pretty self-explanatory.

0:44

Not that I want to deprive you of your opportunity, but some nights if you're winning.

0:52

Yeah, so again, I wasn't planning on giving as much detail as I normally do.

0:55

It's such a minor um application if the applicants want to um give their two cents too.

1:00

But you have in your packet the request for the modification to the preliminary plan approval that you granted earlier this year.

1:07

Um as you could see in the plan set they did give a full plan set as well as a narrative describing what the modifications are.

1:14

Essentially, they're taking what was a detached um structure where there was amenity space and they're putting it inside the building um more to the north and east on the site, and they're reconfiguring the number of units.

1:27

They're kind of swapping one had 38 before, and it's gonna have 39, then the other one's gonna have the opposite same total number of overall units and number of bedrooms.

1:36

Part of the modifications include moving the pool to the south, I guess, kind of southwest, maybe on the property, and then some utilities are being moved, and then the hydrant is also being relocated.

1:48

Um also closer to the residential structure since there's no amenity building anymore.

1:53

It didn't have to be as close to that um other outbuilding.

1:56

And um, I'm not sure if I forgot anything else, but um essentially the I sent the plans to the town engineer and to the fire marshal, and they're both comfortable with the proposed modifications.

2:10

Is the is the northern building getting bigger?

2:13

No, the building is not a good thing.

2:15

Uh excuse me if if you could just come up and just make sure the mic is on, just turn it green so we can record green.

2:22

There you go.

2:24

Um by the way, hi, my name is Pamela A.

2:26

Barm from Zaprete Engineering.

2:28

Um, so the building is not gonna get uh larger, it's gonna stay within the same footprint.

2:33

It's just the units, it's just gonna be kind of redistributed.

2:37

Okay.

2:41

Thanks.

2:45

Are there any other questions to make no members of the audience have any concerns?

2:55

Mr.

2:55

Welch.

3:01

We want to make sure you stay healthy and get your steps in every day.

3:10

Richard Welch, 8 R O Lane.

3:12

Um I just want to know what recommendation or change has been included to show no left turn out of the property on to post road.

3:24

Yeah, and that would be at final anyway.

3:26

So this is just a modification to preliminary.

3:28

So when they submit for final, that is when they're gonna have to give us that they've contacted DOT for their PAP.

3:33

So this is a modification to what was already approved at preliminary, so it that is not included in this application.

3:39

It would be at final stage.

3:41

Thank you.

3:47

Okay.

3:48

Um anyone have any other questions or concerns.

3:53

Um the applicant's comfortable.

3:55

We'd we would call for a uh motion to approve the uh minor preliminary plan modification.

4:02

Any Jim?

4:03

Yes just it is a public hearing.

4:04

I mean, for this, so I just I don't know if we needed to do anything differently or no.

4:09

I was just open to public hearings any more comments and include Mr.

4:12

Welch's comments as stated.

4:14

Okay.

4:14

We have a motion to open the public comment.

4:16

I'll make that motion.

4:18

Would anyone like to speak?

4:20

Motion to close the public comment.

4:22

Sorry, I should have reminded you earlier, but it just dawned on me.

4:24

That's why we have Nancy here tonight, lucky enough to be here.

4:28

I'll make a motion to close public comment.

4:30

All in favor?

4:31

Aye.

4:31

Aye.

4:32

Any opposed?

4:33

Okay, with that, could we have a uh motion to approve the minor preliminary plan modification as presented in the uh depreet letter of September 16th, 2024?

4:44

I'll make that motion.

4:45

Is there a second?

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Zoning Ordinance████████████████████████████28%
Public Comment██████████████14%
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Summary of Proceedings

North Kingstown Planning Commission Meeting - October 1, 2024

The North Kingstown Planning Commission met on October 1, 2024, at 7:00 PM in Town Hall. The meeting addressed two main agenda items: a minor preliminary plan modification for the Post Road Apartments (77-unit major land development) and a waiver request from the Town of North Kingstown for a minor land development project at 100 Fairway Drive. The commission also approved the minutes from the August 6, 2024 meeting.

Consent Calendar

  • No consent calendar was listed on the agenda.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Richard Welch (8 R O Lane) asked about a recommendation to include a "no left turn" restriction out of the Post Road Apartments property onto Post Road. Staff clarified that such a requirement would be addressed at the final plan stage, not in the current modification.

Discussion Items

  • Item 3A: Minor Preliminary Plan Modification – Post Road Apartments

    • The applicant, A.R. Building Company, represented by Pamela A. Barm of Zaprete Engineering, presented a modification to the previously approved preliminary plan. The changes include:
      • Relocating amenity space from a detached structure into the main building, shifting it north and east.
      • Reconfiguring unit counts: one building will have 39 units (previously 38), the other 38 (previously 39), maintaining the same total of 77 units and bedroom count.
      • Moving the pool to the south/southwest portion of the property.
      • Relocating utilities and a fire hydrant closer to the residential structure, as the amenity building is eliminated.
    • The building footprint remains unchanged.
    • The Town Engineer and Fire Marshal reviewed the plans and expressed comfort with the modifications.
    • No public hearing was initially opened, but after a motion, the public comment period was opened and closed, with only Mr. Welch's comments recorded.
  • Item 3B: Waiver Request – 100 Fairway Drive (Town Municipal Offices Addition)

    • The Town of North Kingstown is seeking a Unified Development Review for a minor land development project: adding a small addition to the municipal offices building at 100 Fairway Drive. The project previously would have been classified as a Development Plan Review but now falls under the new state law as a minor land development.
    • The applicant requested waivers from four checklist submission requirements:
      1. D3 (Drainage Calculations): The proposed addition adds minimal impervious surface, below thresholds requiring stormwater practices per the RI Stormwater Manual.
      2. E4 (On-site Wastewater Treatment System): The existing septic system is adequate; no new employees are added, so no upgrade is required.
      3. B6 (Certification by Engineer that plan is correct): The site improvements are minor (mostly building, no new roads or extensive grading); an architect's stamp is considered sufficient.
      4. B2 (Proposed Landscaping Plan bearing stamp of registered landscape architect): The town proposes to use the Tree Warden for landscaping guidance rather than hiring a landscape architect. The plan involves only low-lying shrubs and flowering plants, not trees.
    • Extensive discussion: Commissioner Richard Lipsitz raised concerns about waiving the requirement for a landscape architect stamp, citing state law that plans must be stamped by the appropriate professional. Other commissioners debated whether a waiver of the submission requirement could be granted without violating the ordinance. Ultimately, the commission agreed to waive B2 (the entire landscaping plan submission), but noted that the town would still need to meet landscaping ordinance requirements, with potential relief (variance) to be sought at the November hearing under the unified development review. The engineering stamp waiver (B6) was also debated but passed 5-1, with Lipsitz opposing.

Key Outcomes

  • Item 3A: Motion to approve the minor preliminary plan modification as presented in the applicant's letter of September 16, 2024. Vote: 6-0 in favor.
  • Item 3B – Waivers D3, E4, B6: Motion to approve waivers for drainage calculations (D3), on-site wastewater system (E4), and certification by engineer (B6). Vote: 5-1 in favor. Commissioner Lipsitz voted against B6.
  • Item 3B – Waiver B2 (Landscaping Plan): Motion to approve waiver of the proposed landscaping plan submission (B2). Vote: 5-1 in favor. Commissioner Lipsitz opposed.
  • Minutes: Motion to approve the August 6, 2024 minutes subject to minor spelling corrections. Vote: Unanimous.
  • Next Steps: The 100 Fairway Drive application will be scheduled for a full review by the Planning Commission in November 2024, where the town is expected to seek variances from landscaping requirements if needed.

Meeting Transcript

First item on the agenda item 3A is a minor preliminary plan modification unified development plan review for a preliminary land development project application of AR building company for post-road apartments, a 77-unit major land development located off of post-road assessors plat 136 lot 9 and 21 zone post road. Um the applicant is here. Um just so you know our process staff will um walk us through and if there's any questions uh with this one I'll leave it up to you if you want to present if anyone has any particular questions, but it seems pretty minor and pretty self-explanatory. Not that I want to deprive you of your opportunity, but some nights if you're winning. Yeah, so again, I wasn't planning on giving as much detail as I normally do. It's such a minor um application if the applicants want to um give their two cents too. But you have in your packet the request for the modification to the preliminary plan approval that you granted earlier this year. Um as you could see in the plan set they did give a full plan set as well as a narrative describing what the modifications are. Essentially, they're taking what was a detached um structure where there was amenity space and they're putting it inside the building um more to the north and east on the site, and they're reconfiguring the number of units. They're kind of swapping one had 38 before, and it's gonna have 39, then the other one's gonna have the opposite same total number of overall units and number of bedrooms. Part of the modifications include moving the pool to the south, I guess, kind of southwest, maybe on the property, and then some utilities are being moved, and then the hydrant is also being relocated. Um also closer to the residential structure since there's no amenity building anymore. It didn't have to be as close to that um other outbuilding. And um, I'm not sure if I forgot anything else, but um essentially the I sent the plans to the town engineer and to the fire marshal, and they're both comfortable with the proposed modifications. Is the is the northern building getting bigger? No, the building is not a good thing. Uh excuse me if if you could just come up and just make sure the mic is on, just turn it green so we can record green. There you go. Um by the way, hi, my name is Pamela A. Barm from Zaprete Engineering. Um, so the building is not gonna get uh larger, it's gonna stay within the same footprint. It's just the units, it's just gonna be kind of redistributed. Okay. Thanks. Are there any other questions to make no members of the audience have any concerns? Mr. Welch. We want to make sure you stay healthy and get your steps in every day. Richard Welch, 8 R O Lane. Um I just want to know what recommendation or change has been included to show no left turn out of the property on to post road. Yeah, and that would be at final anyway. So this is just a modification to preliminary. So when they submit for final, that is when they're gonna have to give us that they've contacted DOT for their PAP. So this is a modification to what was already approved at preliminary, so it that is not included in this application. It would be at final stage. Thank you. Okay. Um anyone have any other questions or concerns. Um the applicant's comfortable. We'd we would call for a uh motion to approve the uh minor preliminary plan modification. Any Jim? Yes just it is a public hearing. I mean, for this, so I just I don't know if we needed to do anything differently or no. I was just open to public hearings any more comments and include Mr. Welch's comments as stated. Okay. We have a motion to open the public comment. I'll make that motion. Would anyone like to speak? Motion to close the public comment.

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