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Payson Town Council Special Meeting: Orientation, Acting Town Manager Confirmation, and Bank Signatory Resolution (December 16, 2024)

Town Council & Planning and ZoningMonday, December 16, 2024
BodyPayson, Arizona
SessionTown Council & Planning and Zoning
DateMonday, December 16, 2024
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
1:44

Meeting to order for the common council of the town of Payson.

1:48

Uh Michelle, do you have a roll call for us?

1:51

Yes, let the record show that all council members are present except for council member clarity.

1:55

Okay, thank you.

1:58

And the purpose of this meeting is to provide a basic overview of the local government framework as described in Arizona revised statutes, open meetings law and town code, uh, and also to uh discuss to provide an overview of the council policy manual.

2:28

Thank you, Mr.

2:28

Mayor.

2:28

Christina and I are probably going to um tag team on this presentation because there's a lot of information.

2:34

We'll probably need a drink of water in between each of these.

2:38

Just clarifying.

2:40

Uh in between the uh slides here.

2:43

So most of this presentation is the same from two thousand and twenty-two.

2:48

So those of you that are returning, yes, sir.

2:51

Can we tip the TV towards the wall?

2:55

The right and left-hand corner.

2:57

I don't know.

3:01

Yeah.

3:02

There you go.

3:02

Yeah.

3:03

But my the iPad did we need paid.

3:06

Okay.

3:06

Never mind.

3:07

That's great.

3:08

Thank you.

3:09

I can see it a little better now.

3:13

So those of you that went uh were elected last cycle, you would have heard this presentation once before.

3:19

Much of it is the same.

3:20

And for those of you who uh took advantage of the newly elected officials training last week, some of the content will be similar to what you heard presented at the League of Arizona Cities and Towns.

3:40

So the intent today is to cover uh governance in general and town of Payson governance, touch on council's appointed representatives, your boards and commissions, how to handle constituent requests, interactions with staff, um, policies and procedures for your council meetings, and then we'll finish up with Arizona open meeting law, refresher and conflicts of interest, and how to deal with those.

4:05

Any questions before we get started?

4:12

Town of Payson was incorporated in 1973.

4:15

We operate under the general laws of the state of Arizona, and so basically, Arizona revised statutes provide our authority as a town to act or take action.

4:31

Within that town code, there's a sixty-page council policy manual that's incorporated in there, and it prescribes basically how we do what we do.

5:00

Council makes policy decisions.

5:02

We as staff provide recommendations and advice to help you be informed in the making of those decisions with data and other things.

5:13

The town manager is delegated the responsibility of carrying out the decisions of the town council.

5:21

So the town manager and their management team have the responsibility for hiring and terminating personnel, managing town operations within the budget that's approved by the town council, and implementing our services on a day-to-day basis.

5:37

This allows the council to spend time listening to the concerns of their constituents.

5:45

Town manager roles and responsibilities are as outlined here.

5:50

Direct and coordinate the municipal administrative activities of the town, attend meetings of the town council, direct official responses to inquiries concerning the operation of town government, and prepare and present a balanced budget for council's consideration annually.

6:09

Once that budget's approved, we are also responsible for monitoring that budget, as you know, from time to time.

6:17

Those projections that we make, either on the revenue side or the expenditure side, aren't always as we had anticipated in May or June when we're working on that budget, and so as we continue to monitor that throughout the year, if amendments are needed, we recommend amendments to the council for your consideration as appropriate as well.

6:40

The town manager is responsible for reviewing the organization and procedures, supervising the preparation of materials for public reporting, negotiating contracts, and other agreements that will come to the town council.

6:54

Represent the town at meetings for various community organizations, clubs, and similar entities.

7:03

Administering the town's personnel system, currently we have approximately 150 full-time employees.

7:09

I don't think I updated this slide.

7:11

That was before we assumed responsibility for the B line bus, so that number increased that a little bit, and advising council on policy matters.

7:25

How many employees are there now?

7:28

So we use a figure that is a full-time equivalent.

7:33

So when we get into discussion on the budget, we can talk specifically about that how that number gets figured.

7:41

So if there's a person that works 20 hours a week and another person that works 20 hours a week together, they make one FTE.

7:48

So a lot of times if you see a list of employees, you know, you can see that number fluctuate because in the summer, for example, we would have temporary staff refereeing events for games for our rec programs or helping with setup or tear down for some of those, and so there may be someone on the books as an employee, but they may not be a full-time regular employee.

8:15

So about 150-ish full-time.

8:19

Okay.

8:24

Town council, on the other hand, is responsible for basically all of the corporate powers of the town are vested in the council, and you carry out that power through ordinances, resolutions, orders, and motions.

8:39

No individual council person has the authority to direct town staff except for those that you employ your town manager and town attorney because the council needs to act as a body.

8:50

So the majority of the council is where the power lies.

8:54

Most of the time that's four.

8:56

Sometimes there are things that require more than a simple majority of the council, and Christina's going to talk a little bit about that as we go on.

9:05

You are responsible for enacting legislation, approving the budget, enforcing council's standards and policy, and we're talking about some of those in today's presentation, but essentially that 60-page manual that I mentioned was incorporated into town code.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Government Efficiency████████████████20%
Public Engagement████████10%
Personnel Matters████5%
Zoning And Land Use██3%
Miscellaneous██3%
Strategic Planning1%
Surveillance Technology1%
Conflict Of Interest Disclosure1%
Summary of Proceedings

Payson Town Council Special Meeting: Orientation, Acting Town Manager Confirmation, and Bank Signatory Resolution (December 16, 2024)

The Payson Town Council held a special meeting on December 16, 2024, at the Town Hall Council Chambers, 303 N. Beeline Highway, Payson, Arizona. Mayor Stephen Otto called the meeting to order at approximately 3:02 p.m.; adjournment was at approximately 4:54 p.m. Council Members Charlie Bell, Jim Ferris, Dallin Haws, Scott Nossek, and Susan 'Suzy' Tubbs were present. Council Member Brett Flaherty was absent. Staff present included Deputy Town Manager Sheila DeSchaaf, Town Attorney Christina Estes-Werther, Town Clerk Tracie Bailey, and Senior Deputy Town Clerk Michelle Bailey. The meeting combined a council orientation and policy training session with two action items: confirming Sheila DeSchaaf as Acting Town Manager and approving Resolution No. 3428 to change the authorized signer on town bank accounts.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Michael Coin, a member of the audience, commented during the orientation to point out a misspelling on the PowerPoint. No other public testimony was taken.

Council Orientation and Policy Training

  • Sheila DeSchaaf presented a PowerPoint on the Town of Payson's council-manager government, including the town's 1973 incorporation, council and staff roles, boards/commissions/committees, chain of command, and best practices. She noted the town has approximately 150 full-time equivalent employees, with the figure slightly higher after the town assumed responsibility for the B Line bus.
  • Christina Estes-Werther reviewed governance, policy-making versus quasi-judicial roles, Open Meeting Law, executive sessions, conflicts of interest, voting rules, and penalties. She advised that in quasi-judicial matters, council members should avoid pre-judgment and ex parte contacts.
  • Council Member Bell asked whether the council would have a facilitated session to discuss goals; DeSchaaf said one is anticipated in February before the budget process.
  • Council Member Ferris requested a larger font on future presentations; DeSchaaf said a copy of the presentation would be emailed after the meeting.
  • Council Member Bell asked about changing the regular meeting schedule; DeSchaaf confirmed the council may cancel, reschedule, or delay meetings.
  • Council Member Nossek asked whether motions on the screen had to be verbalized; Estes-Werther said the motion and second must be recorded in the minutes, but reading them aloud is not required.
  • Council Member Ferris asked whether the Police Department overflow room and Zoom participation satisfied public access. Staff explained that people in the overflow room who want to speak are brought to the chambers.
  • Council Member Haws asked about public comment time limits; Estes-Werther said limits or extensions should be set before public comments begin, especially for controversial items.
  • Estes-Werther noted that under council policy, an abstention counts as an affirmative vote unless the abstention is based on a conflict of interest.

Action Item: Confirm Sheila DeSchaaf as Acting Town Manager

  • Town Attorney Estes-Werther explained that outgoing Town Manager Troy Smith had named Deputy Town Manager Sheila DeSchaaf as Acting Town Manager, and council confirmation was needed for her to exercise duties under Town Code Section 31.20, including acting as bank signatory and as the town's agent under federal, state, or local laws, loans, water settlement matters, WIFA, FAA, and other mandated matters.
  • Council Member Ferris asked whether council members could ask staff questions before a new town manager is appointed; DeSchaaf said council policy allows discussions with department directors.
  • Council Member Bell asked DeSchaaf whether she could serve objectively without being influenced by past associations. DeSchaaf responded that staff carries out the direction of the Town Council.
  • Motion by Council Member Susan 'Suzy' Tubbs, seconded by Council Member Dallin Haws, to confirm Sheila DeSchaaf as Acting Town Manager. The motion carried 6-0.

Action Item: Resolution No. 3428 – JPMorgan Chase Bank Signatories

  • Acting Town Manager DeSchaaf requested the change in authorized signer from outgoing Town Manager Troy Smith to herself as Acting Town Manager for continuity of operations.
  • Motion by Mayor Stephen Otto, seconded by Council Member Jim Ferris, to approve Resolution No. 3428, which authorizes and directs Mayor Otto to execute documents amending the authorized signer for various town accounts maintained at JPMorgan Chase Bank. The motion carried 6-0.

Key Outcomes

  • Confirmed Sheila DeSchaaf as Acting Town Manager by a 6-0 vote, with Council Member Brett Flaherty absent.
  • Approved Resolution No. 3428 by a 6-0 vote, with Council Member Brett Flaherty absent.
  • Planned next steps include selection of the vice mayor and council liaisons at the first regular meeting in January 2025, and a facilitated council goal-setting/budget session anticipated in February 2025.
  • The council orientation and policy training completed with guidance on Open Meeting Law, executive sessions, conflict-of-interest procedures, and council operations.

Meeting Transcript

Meeting to order for the common council of the town of Payson. Uh Michelle, do you have a roll call for us? Yes, let the record show that all council members are present except for council member clarity. Okay, thank you. And the purpose of this meeting is to provide a basic overview of the local government framework as described in Arizona revised statutes, open meetings law and town code, uh, and also to uh discuss to provide an overview of the council policy manual. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Christina and I are probably going to um tag team on this presentation because there's a lot of information. We'll probably need a drink of water in between each of these. Just clarifying. Uh in between the uh slides here. So most of this presentation is the same from two thousand and twenty-two. So those of you that are returning, yes, sir. Can we tip the TV towards the wall? The right and left-hand corner. I don't know. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. But my the iPad did we need paid. Okay. Never mind. That's great. Thank you. I can see it a little better now. So those of you that went uh were elected last cycle, you would have heard this presentation once before. Much of it is the same. And for those of you who uh took advantage of the newly elected officials training last week, some of the content will be similar to what you heard presented at the League of Arizona Cities and Towns. So the intent today is to cover uh governance in general and town of Payson governance, touch on council's appointed representatives, your boards and commissions, how to handle constituent requests, interactions with staff, um, policies and procedures for your council meetings, and then we'll finish up with Arizona open meeting law, refresher and conflicts of interest, and how to deal with those. Any questions before we get started? Town of Payson was incorporated in 1973. We operate under the general laws of the state of Arizona, and so basically, Arizona revised statutes provide our authority as a town to act or take action. Within that town code, there's a sixty-page council policy manual that's incorporated in there, and it prescribes basically how we do what we do. Council makes policy decisions. We as staff provide recommendations and advice to help you be informed in the making of those decisions with data and other things. The town manager is delegated the responsibility of carrying out the decisions of the town council. So the town manager and their management team have the responsibility for hiring and terminating personnel, managing town operations within the budget that's approved by the town council, and implementing our services on a day-to-day basis. This allows the council to spend time listening to the concerns of their constituents. Town manager roles and responsibilities are as outlined here. Direct and coordinate the municipal administrative activities of the town, attend meetings of the town council, direct official responses to inquiries concerning the operation of town government, and prepare and present a balanced budget for council's consideration annually. Once that budget's approved, we are also responsible for monitoring that budget, as you know, from time to time. Those projections that we make, either on the revenue side or the expenditure side, aren't always as we had anticipated in May or June when we're working on that budget, and so as we continue to monitor that throughout the year, if amendments are needed, we recommend amendments to the council for your consideration as appropriate as well. The town manager is responsible for reviewing the organization and procedures, supervising the preparation of materials for public reporting, negotiating contracts, and other agreements that will come to the town council. Represent the town at meetings for various community organizations, clubs, and similar entities. Administering the town's personnel system, currently we have approximately 150 full-time employees. I don't think I updated this slide. That was before we assumed responsibility for the B line bus, so that number increased that a little bit, and advising council on policy matters. How many employees are there now? So we use a figure that is a full-time equivalent. So when we get into discussion on the budget, we can talk specifically about that how that number gets figured.

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