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Pittsburgh City Council Pre-Agenda Interviews for Fire Chief, OMB Director, and I&P Director - October 26, 2026

City Council — Monday, October 26, 2026
BodyPittsburgh, Pennsylvania
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, October 26, 2026
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Speaker 1

3:07

Good morning and welcome to the pre-agenture interview for Monday, October twenty-sixth, two thousand twenty-six for the Chief of Pittsburgh Fire Bureau, the D Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Director of the Department of Innovation and Performance.

Speaker 2

5:00

And I'd like to thank Mayor O'Connor for the appointment.

5:04

And I'd also like to thank Chief Gilman for his leadership and passion for the city.

5:10

And I'd also like to thank the staff of the Office of Management and Budget for all their hard work over this challenging year.

Unassigned speaker

5:21

Hi,

Speaker 3

5:22

Matthew Davis, acting fire chief, Pittsburgh Fire.

5:25

I'm in my I've been here about three and a half years.

5:27

I was hired as the assistant chief of community risk reduction.

5:34

And I was there for about 19 years before I came to the city of Pittsburgh.

5:38

I want to thank you for the opportunity.

Speaker 1

5:41

Thank you.

5:41

And let the record reflect we're currently joined by Councilman Schrosberger, Councilman Carkill, Councilman Charlotte, and Councilman Warburg is online.

5:48

And we'll just start at the beginning and go down the line.

5:51

Councilman Schlossberger.

Speaker 4

5:53

Thank you.

5:54

Thank you all for being here today and for your willingness to serve in these positions.

6:01

I think I guess I'll go a little bit down the line as well.

6:07

At IMP, we're there are some exciting projects afoot, I know, and some exciting opportunities that I think you had worked on with our prior INP director.

6:22

And I'm wondering how you're thinking about well, I first like to ask what are your what are your biggest what are your biggest priorities for for the department currently.

6:31

You do a lot.

6:47

So with that as the sort of backdrop, what is what is your biggest priority right now?

Speaker 5

6:52

So the biggest priority right now uh I would say with um the budget challenges um one of the things that I have been uh talking with the staff about is leveraging some of the existing resources that we have.

7:08

You know, a lot of times there is you know a need comes up and the knee-jerk reaction is to look for something, some new thing that that does that.

7:20

And so what I have been encouraging is to, you know, let's first check what we already own, what we already have.

7:28

Uh we do buy a lot of things that uh have more capabilities than just the one thing that we purchased it for.

7:35

And so um, you know, that's that's one of my biggest biggest goals and initiatives right now is to try to leverage leverage things that we have.

7:44

Um in order to do that, you know, one of the first steps would be to have a good uh working asset uh inventory.

7:52

Um so that's something that is first and foremost for us.

7:56

And you know, when I talk about assets, that doesn't just mean you know, things with IP addresses, computers or you know, phones or switches or routers, that also means software, you know, those capabilities as well.

8:09

Uh and also I consider data to be an asset.

8:12

Um so if we don't know what data we have or where it is, it's difficult to protect

Unassigned speaker

8:16

it

Speaker 5

8:17

and uh also to house it and to manage it properly.

Speaker 4

8:23

That's great to hear, because that does then feed into my other question, which is I think we at this table like to um like to talk about um software and and I guess major major contracts, multi-year sort of um processes to move from one either system or software to another.

8:44

Many of them are very much needed, and also many of them are kind of coming at us all at once.

8:51

And I guess how do you think about then, given what you're saying about having an inventory, knowing what we need, but in some cases, legitimately knowing that like this department needs this major software upgrade or change.

9:04

Um this one does too, and this one does too.

9:07

How do you how do you think about um in the future when we're faced with these decisions, prioritizing or triaging um uh those kinds of major expenses, multi-year contracts and multi-year sort of um uh I guess um processes that on our end looks like we've allocated this much money and then we're sort of carrying them over, you know, to the next year, to the next year until it's implemented.

9:36

But on your end, you know, you know, exactly what is um uh what is happening because it's it's for you know it's it's just the needed, it's the needed software for in each individual department.

9:49

How how do you think about prioritizing that or saying yes to one set of workers, no to another set of workers?

Unassigned speaker

10:00

Yeah, so um, you know, one of those to your point about about money's rolling over, you know, you have projects that you have invested, you've already invested uh a lot in.

Speaker 5

10:09

And so you know, you have to really think about um is this something that that is still needed if it's if it's rolled on for this long.

10:18

Um is it worth noting um based on what's already been invested?

10:25

As as far as prioritizing, you know, you you kind of look at um, you know, always safety first.

10:33

Um what is their dependencies?

10:37

You know, some things have dependencies, and a lot of times that does not get taken into consideration.

10:42

Um that also ties back into the inventory, right?

10:48

So we it it's hard for us to know what has a dependency on something if we don't know what these things are or what they're what they're being used

Unassigned speaker

10:56

for.

Speaker 4

10:57

Thanks.

10:57

And what what are you most excited about in terms of the potential for um you in this position, but the the department as a whole.

Unassigned speaker

11:06

Um

Speaker 5

11:06

I'm excited about the excitement that the department seems to have, right?

11:11

These guys are I I'm really looking to give them a chance to shine uh with all the talents that they have uh to be able to spread their wings and um and and reach out and and and really show the types of things that they can do that they are capable of doing.

11:31

Um that I'm just not sure that they have been given that opportunity.

11:35

And and you know, these guys are are really rock stars, and I know uh I hear you all talk highly of them all the time, but I see them um day to day.

11:45

And so I'm I'm very excited to to work with them and and to help them um cultivate that.

Unassigned speaker

11:52

And

Speaker 4

11:52

I know that there are many who have been there for 30 plus years, right?

11:56

Started as interns and have worked their way through with a I think is a testament to the organization and the department um and leadership.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety███████████████████████████████████35%
Technology and Innovation█████████████████████████25%
Budget██████████████14%
Community Engagement██████████10%
Procedural█████5%
Personnel Matters█████5%
Public Engagement███3%
Mental Health Awareness██2%
Public Works█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Pittsburgh City Council Pre-Agenda Interviews for Fire Chief, OMB Director, and I&P Director - October 26, 2026

The City Council Committee on Hearings and Policy met on October 26, 2026, in Council Chambers for pre-agenda interviews with Mayor O'Connor's appointees: Mathew Davis for Chief of the Pittsburgh Bureau of Fire (Resolution 2026-0955), Rea Price for Director of the Office of Management and Budget and CFO (Resolution 2026-0956), and Sylvia Harris for Director of the Department of Innovation and Performance and CIO (Resolution 2026-0957). The printed agenda lists the meeting at 10:00 AM, while the meeting record timestamp indicates 15:00 UTC. Each nominee took an oath or affirmation before answering councilmembers' questions. No formal vote was taken during the interview session.

Innovation and Performance - Sylvia Harris

  • Harris identified her top priority as leveraging existing city resources—software, hardware, and data—before purchasing new technology, beginning with a complete asset inventory. She stressed that data is an asset and needs to be managed and protected.
  • She described plans to strengthen procurement vetting, define user requirements, and avoid duplicate purchases. She noted that software is often bought for one use despite having additional capabilities.
  • On AI, Harris said the department is educating staff on safe use, has a team reviewing AI use cases, and expects AI capabilities to arrive through existing software. Councilmembers discussed AI-assisted permitting and constituent services; Harris said some implementations are coming soon.
  • The ERP selection is nearly complete: vendor evaluations are done and scoring is in progress; implementation will take longer. She said a new ERP system may improve trust-fund accounting.
  • Cybersecurity remains a priority: the city has internal and external incident response teams, has experienced attempted attacks, has never paid a ransom, and is adding a third cybersecurity full-time employee in 2027.
  • Regarding the PGH Lab program, Harris said she is looking at funding opportunities for 2027.

Office of Management and Budget - Rea Price

  • Price said the formal budget presentation is due November 9 and her immediate goal is an honest, transparent budget.
  • For 2027, she plans a full review of procurement policies and bringing in spend consultants to audit contracts and invoices for duplicate services and errors, noting this could yield millions in savings.
  • She acknowledged a large budget gap, said savings alone will not close it, and said the city must work with council on revenue and spending levers to rebuild the fund balance by 2031.
  • On trust funds, she explained that some must be segregated by statute or ordinance; the November budget will include full trust-fund detail. She said presentation could be improved and the new ERP should help.
  • After the loss of the prior procurement leader, Kathy Cotton is serving in an acting assistant director capacity; a job posting for the position was expected soon.
  • She attributed budget discrepancies to human error, last year's balanced-budget pressure, and thousands of rows of data; budget analysts enter decisions into the system and communication between sides was sometimes lacking.

Pittsburgh Bureau of Fire - Mathew Davis

  • Davis said he has been with the city about 3.5 years, acting chief since June, and previously served about 19 years elsewhere.
  • He identified fleet and facilities as major pain points, along with recruitment/retention of a diverse workforce, mental health and wellness, training, and updating the fire code with PLI.
  • He reported the bureau is on budget for overtime/premium pay after making hard choices, including cutting some work groups and using on-duty crews for details, and he is confident it will stay on or under budget.
  • Davis wants a local burn facility; the city currently pays about $30,000 per use to train at Butler, plus overtime, travel, and wear-and-tear costs. He also discussed the VA training site as a longer-term project.
  • The bureau has roughly 700 firefighters, which he said is adequate for now; he is open to providing paid fire services to neighboring communities and noted the union and chief identified possible savings by moving administrative work from firefighters to civilian staff, worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
  • He described the Citizens Fire Academy as successful and a potential recruiting tool; the girls summer camp is funded within the prevention budget. He also discussed better coordination with CERT and other community programs.
  • Asked about one vs. two points of egress for building conversions, Davis said he favors two points of egress but is willing to study each case and consult additional code experts.

Councilmember Comments

  • Several councilmembers praised Price's transparency and partnership; Councilman Collins said Davis and the fire bureau were doing strong work, particularly on overtime, and that he would be in full support of all three nominees. Others voiced trust in Harris and Davis and welcomed them to their permanent roles.
  • Councilmembers raised topics including AI, the ERP timeline, cybersecurity, procurement, community programs, and fire-code modernization.

Key Outcomes

  • The committee completed the pre-agenda interviews. No motion or vote on Resolutions 2026-0955, 2026-0956, or 2026-0957 appears in the transcript; those appointments remain for subsequent council action.
  • Next steps include the November 9 budget presentation, the expected posting of the procurement position, completion of ERP selection, and further budget hearings.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning and welcome to the pre-agenture interview for Monday, October twenty-sixth, two thousand twenty-six for the Chief of Pittsburgh Fire Bureau, the D Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Director of the Department of Innovation and Performance. And I'd like to thank Mayor O'Connor for the appointment. And I'd also like to thank Chief Gilman for his leadership and passion for the city. And I'd also like to thank the staff of the Office of Management and Budget for all their hard work over this challenging year. Hi, Matthew Davis, acting fire chief, Pittsburgh Fire. I'm in my I've been here about three and a half years. I was hired as the assistant chief of community risk reduction. And I was there for about 19 years before I came to the city of Pittsburgh. I want to thank you for the opportunity. Thank you. And let the record reflect we're currently joined by Councilman Schrosberger, Councilman Carkill, Councilman Charlotte, and Councilman Warburg is online. And we'll just start at the beginning and go down the line. Councilman Schlossberger. Thank you. Thank you all for being here today and for your willingness to serve in these positions. I think I guess I'll go a little bit down the line as well. At IMP, we're there are some exciting projects afoot, I know, and some exciting opportunities that I think you had worked on with our prior INP director. And I'm wondering how you're thinking about well, I first like to ask what are your what are your biggest what are your biggest priorities for for the department currently. You do a lot. So with that as the sort of backdrop, what is what is your biggest priority right now? So the biggest priority right now uh I would say with um the budget challenges um one of the things that I have been uh talking with the staff about is leveraging some of the existing resources that we have. You know, a lot of times there is you know a need comes up and the knee-jerk reaction is to look for something, some new thing that that does that. And so what I have been encouraging is to, you know, let's first check what we already own, what we already have. Uh we do buy a lot of things that uh have more capabilities than just the one thing that we purchased it for. And so um, you know, that's that's one of my biggest biggest goals and initiatives right now is to try to leverage leverage things that we have. Um in order to do that, you know, one of the first steps would be to have a good uh working asset uh inventory. Um so that's something that is first and foremost for us. And you know, when I talk about assets, that doesn't just mean you know, things with IP addresses, computers or you know, phones or switches or routers, that also means software, you know, those capabilities as well. Uh and also I consider data to be an asset. Um so if we don't know what data we have or where it is, it's difficult to protect it and uh also to house it and to manage it properly. That's great to hear, because that does then feed into my other question, which is I think we at this table like to um like to talk about um software and and I guess major major contracts, multi-year sort of um processes to move from one either system or software to another. Many of them are very much needed, and also many of them are kind of coming at us all at once. And I guess how do you think about then, given what you're saying about having an inventory, knowing what we need, but in some cases, legitimately knowing that like this department needs this major software upgrade or change. Um this one does too, and this one does too. How do you how do you think about um in the future when we're faced with these decisions, prioritizing or triaging um uh those kinds of major expenses, multi-year contracts and multi-year sort of um uh I guess um processes that on our end looks like we've allocated this much money and then we're sort of carrying them over, you know, to the next year, to the next year until it's implemented. But on your end, you know, you know, exactly what is um uh what is happening because it's it's for you know it's it's just the needed, it's the needed software for in each individual department. How how do you think about prioritizing that or saying yes to one set of workers, no to another set of workers? Yeah, so um, you know, one of those to your point about about money's rolling over, you know, you have projects that you have invested, you've already invested uh a lot in. And so you know, you have to really think about um is this something that that is still needed if it's if it's rolled on for this long. Um is it worth noting um based on what's already been invested? As as far as prioritizing, you know, you you kind of look at um, you know, always safety first. Um what is their dependencies? You know, some things have dependencies, and a lot of times that does not get taken into consideration. Um that also ties back into the inventory, right? So we it it's hard for us to know what has a dependency on something if we don't know what these things are or what they're what they're being used for. Thanks.

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