0:05So she's in this year.
0:06So I think she grabs her updated that they put on production through people won't like why you know that you're gonna get weight.
0:16The meeting is called the order.
0:27So you can show you something.
0:30Order agenda was sent out ahead of time.
0:33Any changes to the order of agenda?
0:35Motion to move that order.
0:40All in favor say aye.
0:453A minutes and video of our previous meeting.
0:49Is there a motion to approve the minutes and the video?
0:54Is there any discussion?
0:57All in favor say aye.
1:02We're all ready to our 125 live report for this quarter.
1:09I am a member of 125 live.
1:12Please go ahead, administrators home.
1:16Wall, I'll try to get that right for this meeting.
1:19Apologies, the order got a little bit um out of order for this one.
1:23But if you uh look at the uh the operating resilience report, um, you can see that they've been pretty steady over the last few quarters um uh moving a little bit above and below the line on the reliance ratio.
1:37Um, but you can see since 202, they've really uh been staying um in a great place financially um with both their current ratio um which is their ability to sort of run out um if something bad happened, they haven't the ability to continue to operate without new revenue right away, um, and then their operating reliance ratio um a little bit.
2:01It shows they do rely a bit on the city funding, um, but they're not so reliant on it that they would not be able to continue to operate.
2:09Um then um you can also see that in um the chart that's down, or I guess what I call this the list of the old chart um down below, which um shows that there was some um more troubling times back in the 2018 time frame, but things are looking much better.
2:28Uh we also provided the detail um that they have for us in the October 24 to September 25 profit and loss, um, which is uh provided uh by quarter there.
2:40Um their income uh is uh in a good place uh relative to their revenue or to their expenses, and then uh also showing the balance sheet uh through September 30th, 2025.
2:54So these are their most recent board um authorized financials later in the agenda to talk about whether we might request something different next year.
3:03Any discussion on the information presented to us from 125 live.
3:09Looks like they're pretty stable.
3:10Yeah, no, very stable.
3:12So you know, I'm there actually quite a bit.
3:15Um I'm amazed at how many younger people are joining these days.
3:19Uh which I'm sure helps the bottom line.
3:25Okay, and we can we can just kind of accept all these at the end, right?
3:30Typically that's what we can do.
3:32We'll go to the history center, please.
3:36Um the history center, you can see current funding of 37,500.
3:40That is the 2024 number.
3:45Um sorry, I'm in the place in my life where 26 is coming, and I don't know what year I am in financially.
3:51Um so you can see that they their current ratio usually has a bit of like peaks and values throughout the year relative to how some of their financials will come in quarterly.
4:01Um, and then uh their operating reliance ratio looking like it's in quite a um a comfortable place um for them, and uh they are likely continuing to do some of that work that was referenced in their narrative from the last time um about work with the history barn and how they're continuing to get reimbursed.
4:20Uh they also provided their profit and loss year to date, January through September of 2025.
4:26Um, so you can see their income and expenses.
4:31Um they uh had income that was um in excess of some of their expenses, so that puts them in um a saw a pretty solid uh position financially, excuse me.
4:45And then you can see the statement of their financial position, it uh shows their assets um and and where they're sitting financially in a slightly different way with their overall um assets being um with their total equity being at about 1.3 million dollars.
5:03And then we're going to uh visit about this later, but uh the profit and loss statement uh doesn't mean a lot to me unless I have some comparison from and some provide it, some don't.
5:17Um yeah, the the charts look good.
5:22I don't know if this looks good or not.
5:24I look forward to that discussion.
5:28We'll any uh discussion on the history center.
5:32Um to add then we shall go to the human rights commission so also quite different as we've shared, talked about before.
5:42Each of these is kind of unique.
5:44So the Human Rights Commission um is really the phone line that the um county has been operating.
5:49The city's contribution is $5,400.
5:52Um, and some of their expenses come in very differently throughout the year.
5:56Um they really they have a contractor that monitors the phone line and the cost of the phone line.
6:00So um the way that they are actually expending that, um, where they're expanding it, and if they're doing journal entries, um typically it this just comes in in a very different fashion because it's the county, so they don't have a profit and loss statement, etc.
6:14Um, one thing that I would note um that you'll be seeing in the budget on December 1st is that when we were working with the county, they did request an increase in the youth uh council contribution so that it would be equal with the county, and then they're going to not do this anymore.
6:30They get maybe like six calls a month, and typically they have a hard time connecting with the people.
6:37Alternatively, most uh many cities and counties um direct people to the Minnesota Department of Human Rights so that they can directly go there because that really is their next avenue if they have a concern.
6:48Um, so just for your awareness.
6:50So you expect the 5400 to disappear in a request, but then add 5400 to youth or well, maybe it'll be 5,000 to youth.
7:00So it's about a budget neutral.
7:06So you have one less next year that will look different.
7:09Any questions on the Human Rights Commission statements?
7:13My only question is more about the history in this context.
7:16Well, this go to the whole council as an update on the budget.
7:20Yeah, on December 1st, that's one of the company references that I would make.
7:25Just wanted to make sure that we weren't the only ones to hear about this in detail.
7:29No, I just maybe be surprised in January.
7:32Um, I also would just note that this used to be the whole human rights commission, which has changed over time, but the city's always been um the city's funding's always been related to this only.
7:48We will move to ready 3E.
7:51Another different animal.
7:54They are all in the same zoom.
7:55Um, so ready is um also the fiscal host for the small business development center.
8:02Um, you can see the city's contribution is 75,000 to ready and 15,000 for the small business development center.
8:09Um, ready's been holding pretty strong with their current ratio.
8:13Um, and then um you can see again that the cyclical adjustments for their operating reliance ratios, although they held better between quarter two and quarter three.
8:24Um they did provide a note that shared about their um payables being current and all expenses were reasonable, um, and that they have grant revenue coming um from for SBDC for quarter one.
8:39Um obviously they also are a little bit sometimes caught up.
8:43The SPDC funding is reimbursement funding from the federal government, so that had some impacts during the shutdown.
8:54And uh long profit and loss statement or whatever they uh are calling it financials.
9:02So these are the financials that the court sees every month that the um these are probably getting closer to what would be helpful to see.
9:10Um but they also bring these through um an auditor, and most of the other nonprofits seem to be doing that more within their financial local financial systems, and the comparison is helpful.
9:27Any discussion on ready finances?
9:31None of these we then shall move to SBDC, and we have we'll have more discussion on this.
9:40Um, I do I did want to note I did just get my word packet from um Rochester Area Economic Development and hopefully I have it opened because but now of course I can't find what I'm looking for.
9:57Anyway, I will look for that.
10:00The Small Business Development Center, as noted, they report a little bit differently than everyone else because of their reporting system to the Fed federal government.
10:09But in their update to the Ready Board, I think it would be fine for me to share this.
10:16This is for the meeting that's this Wednesday, but they had accomplished community outreach to Blooming Prairie, Fairbow, Cassandra, Owatana, Plainview, Red Wing, Rochester, and Winona hosted statewide SBDC knowledge exchange program.
10:30So that was here early this year.
10:39Hosted the Hispanic Business Resource and Networking event.
10:43And in 2025, the impact on small business development in the Southeast region through November 18th.
10:50They had 494 clients advised.
10:53So this isn't just Rochester.
11:10In addition, they completed their staff completed over 400 hours of professional development.
11:1616 workshops throughout 2025 were hosted and helped fund three entrepreneurship co-starter programs.
11:25So I was just reading my board packet.
11:28So yeah, no, that's great information.
11:30I guess the only thing I would add here is it largely already feels consolidated into the ready item since the financials include SBDC.
11:41And I wonder if it makes sense going forward, and this could be a part of the discussion later in the agenda as well.
11:47But to consolidate the items entirely because the operating reliance ratio sheet already includes both the breakout of funding to ready and then separately to SBDC.
11:56Then the financials are all encompassing.
11:58This feels more like an activity or an impact report.
12:01There could be an addendum.
12:04That none of us really totally understand.
12:06None of us totally understand.
12:07I think there is the opportunity to figure out whether this makes sense if there's a way to improve it or if it's just maybe they could follow like that summary that they send to the ready board, even.
12:18It could be because I I don't know what the item reap is adding to our correct understanding.
12:26Just even broken out separately from Ready.
12:29Yeah, that's helpful.
12:31And I'm going to assume that the advising hours under Rochester are 321 and not uh dollars.
12:41They are not dollars.
12:45It seems to me just looking at the figures, and uh I'm only going on memory that uh perfectly uh fine with me that there's a great deal more regional activity.
12:55Uh in proportion to Rochester activity in this report.
13:01Does that make does that sound right to you?
13:04I would say yes, in large part because of the property that is or is not available in Rochester for some of the businesses that they would be supporting with their outreach.
13:14Um a number of these communities are very close to Rochester.
13:19They could have their business there, but they could live here.
13:22I mean, there's a lot of nuances, I think, with our region, how that might work.
13:26And of course, the council recently updated the industrial land within the zoning code, but that doesn't correct.
13:31I mean, this shows up in this report for a while.
13:37I think this report would be well served to be reimagined if possible, because we'll discuss later in the agenda.
13:48Any further discussion on small business.
13:53We will move forward to our neighbors.
13:58Um the our neighbors uh current ratio is actually looking strong for them.
14:03Um they've they've leveled out, they did need to use some of their reserve based on some of the restructuring that they were working through post-COVID, um, and their operating reliance ratio always looks much different than all of the others based on primarily being funded by the city and otherwise maybe would be a city department.
14:21Um they also noted that summer and fall are when um they are impacted by um the grants that they receive from C Mac for talk the block.
14:31Um so that's also where a fair amount of their activities happening when they have programming and the tree planting and things of that nature.
14:38Um so they they got very close um through their current reporting period.
14:43Um, and in the 2026 budget, it does recommend an increase for them to help more salt in correct.
14:54But they've always run very close.
15:00But I think it's also, I mean, to your point, so close to serving city functions with their support of the tree plantings, neighborhood associations, the back of their house, and community development.
15:10So I think it's it's good that they're trending well, but I think it's just worth noting that they're much more like a city department or a subset of the city department than the others.
15:23An extension of, I mean, much more that you would be doing it similarly if you if you didn't have the partnership.
15:34And they did provide a statement of activities January through September of 2025 with their income and expenses, and they're a very uh concise shot.
15:44So actually that page probably is a good overview of where they're sitting and where their expenses were, uh, where some of their challenges were.
15:54It's nice to see a period comparison.
16:01Any other discussion on our neighbors?
16:06To the art center, please.
16:08The Rochester Arts Center um had a bit of a spike in Valley.
16:12Um I need to probably dig in a little bit to understand what happened there, but it was in a prior um we asked that question, I believe, at a prior meeting.
16:21Um, but you can see that they've leveled off on their current ratio um the last two quarters, and then they've been pretty steady in their operating reliance ratio in quarter two and quarter three.
16:32Um they do still show um about close to 19,400 of net operating income um through their current reporting period, and they are just heading into at the end of the third quarter their um annual appeal campaign.
16:47Um so some of the seasonality of what they do within their budget is based on when they're actually um going to their membership drive and looking for um support from the community.
16:59Um they also established some new accounts um to better manage their investments and see some return there.
17:07Um you can still see that they are um in a solid position, still much better the last three quarters than they have been for most of the prior um you know few years back to 2017.
17:20Um and they also provided a statement of financial position um as well as the January through September statement of activity with their um you know gross profit and income still um exceeding what their um overall expenses were, of course, they do relay to a degree on the city's contribution.
17:42Yeah, I'll just have a member of the art center, and I think it's also to the notes in the um operating reliance ratio uh file.
17:51Good to see that they're thinking about long-term stability, uh diversifying their their fundraising strategies and expanding to stock transfers.
18:00Yeah, so I think that that is a note that hopefully will show up in actual results of operating improvements in the years to come.
18:12I have heard a suggestion that they might be thinking of moving out of that building.
18:16Is that uh anything that uh bear would that bear on the city's support uh if they were to seek a different spot?
18:28Um I haven't heard that in grand detail.
18:32I mean, I've heard that they are interested in like a broader conversation out about a performing arts center, and uh I know that some of the um changes that happened, gosh, maybe 10 years ago in the front area were some created some challenges for visibility.
18:49Um I I don't know what kind of capital campaign that might require for someone to move.
18:54I feel like that would maybe be a ways away, but I think the question would be how would you use the existing building?
19:04How do I how would we use the existing building if we weren't there, and then what kind of contribution would the city be interested in, if any valuable space.
19:15Anything else on the art center?
19:18Just say that I I would look forward to that discussion at a regular council audience.
19:27What do you think would happen?
19:29Oh, I just I I don't want to get into uh our outside agency oversight meeting, any potential hypothetical situations of I've had no direct centers I've I've heard it one person and they weren't the art center, so we shall go to the civic theater.
19:47I will note that I'm a member of the Civil Well, uh season ticket holder.
19:52I am so I am as well.
20:00Um the theater um is uh holding strong with their current ratio, um, had a uh big increase there in the a quarter four of 2023, and then um in 2025, you can see that they've been uh pretty consistent in the the two quarters that we've looked at them.
20:15Uh and then their operating reliance ratio, they are reliant on the city's funding, um, but they um they're still holding quite strong in the operating reliance ratio that we try to um to strive for uh in that space.
20:28They did note that the first um show of their season was below what their expectations were pretty significantly, so they've been kind of catching up since the beginning of the year, and so that's I think promising that they've continued to trend upward.
20:43I guess I do have a question because it seems like in addition to that show being lower tenants than expected, they've had some challenges with um I don't know, scalper is the right word, but um impersonation of their ticket office marking up tickets quite significantly, and I just don't know how we might think about that.
21:04Um with them existing in a city building being a partner, how how we might think about that situation.
21:17I read about it in the newspaper on the I've had people tell me about it too, that they were looking for tickets and um it was spoofed as a tick the about a valid ticket seller, but tickets for this upcoming production and frozen were marked in the hundreds of dollars rather than their actual price, which is probably between 30 and 40 dollars per show.
21:38Yeah, so yeah, I know of one couple that paid 900 for two tickets.
21:46Which I hope they're on the think about that, sure, right?
21:51But you know, um yeah, it's it's good news to me that things are trending upwards too, that they added a performance to their recent um production, so they added an additional showing.
22:05So ticket sales are very strong for for their upcoming production.
22:09It is quite alarming though that there's ongoing fundraising uh for the civic theater.
22:15Um all through the fall, there's been ongoing fundraising.
22:22So I'm kind of curious a little bit too about digging into the financial stability of the organization.
22:30Um you say Dan, it was alarming that they're doing fundraising.
22:37I'm just questioned that.
22:38I'm just curious about that.
22:40Uh I don't know if that was because if it is out of response to the lackluster uh ticket sales for the first production.
22:50So the first time I that I've experienced such a fundraising push throughout throughout the course of the season.
22:56Um I just don't know enough of their operating model to know that.
23:10Because this uh was one of the real black holes for a a little while in the city of Rochester.
23:19So would you want them to, if it worked for their schedule, like come to the next meeting and just share a little bit about I mean they've had a long history, they've had a lot of history since 2018, and also they've had new leadership.
23:33Yeah, I think it would be great.
23:35Yeah and they could either join remotely or in person if it shouldn't work for them.
23:38Sure, I'd be helpful for that.
23:40I I would welcome any of these organizations to come and share throughout the year.
23:44Um but absolutely in this case, and I just know it as well when we think about the formatting, it's just hard to get a real sense of where this is in context without a comparable period, but talk about that later.
24:00And especially some of the organizations that cut such a wide swath across uh Rochester.
24:06Um, some of these would touch very few people the theater.
24:17I guess I'm curious as well with the the second item under revenue season ticket package is being listed as negative if they're treating that more as a I don't know.
24:31I'm still looking for 4101-01.
24:35I'm sorry, dash two or two C.918.
24:39Perhaps that's being reserved.
24:41Yeah, I don't know how they're booking that.
24:43If they're holding it until the actual performance and recording revenue, right.
24:47That would be typical that you have your sales office box and hold that new general ledger, but I don't know if that's what I guess I'm just again without a comparable period.
25:00It's hard to say how that's coming across because their net revenue is concerningly $36,000 negative.
25:41This one has a big spike.
25:47So you can see on their current ratio, and of course, that's their again, their entire book of business, even their assets, et cetera.
25:54But that was up significantly for this quarter, and then their operating reliance ratio came down a little bit.
25:59That's all of their available expenses and revenues less the revenue from the city of Rochester.
26:07They did have a expenses related to the grant that they received, and that grant spiked their you know available resources, and now they're spending that they're delivering on what the grant was for.
26:20But they're in a very positive position relative to prior years.
26:24Again, a lot of that's related to that one-time funding that they've received.
26:31And they provide um a balance sheet comparison, which I think is getting closer to what you're hoping for.
26:36Um which really helps to kind of see, okay, especially line by line, where are they changing year over year to and they talk about the um focusing on advertising as you can see some of that?
26:48Um, and um they um do the same um well to a degree in their profit and loss.
26:53That's what they've had the recent board approved, is still only January through June.
26:58Um you can see um in that that they've had um some changes in um their net income.
27:05A lot of that's related to that grant funding that came in.
27:08Um if you're looking at that, I don't know why that's how to look at the header again.
27:13Um for the it's from the previous year, that's what that PY means in case you're looking for that.
27:19Um, and then again, they also um continue to show um just the straight uh just like what their distribution accounts are and um it's more of like a direct profit and loss with net income sitting around $700,000.
27:34And then they go further um to show the um actual budget and where they are year over year, which I think is also helpful to kind of have a sense of what were they planning, and sometimes you have to your budget is a plan and reality happens and you have to do what you need to do.
27:54Yeah I'll just say I uh it's good to see them in a good position combined with the presentation we heard in our last council meeting.
28:00So I'm glad to see that they're getting support hearing from business owners part of the special services district who are pleased with the service drive and glad that we can partner here and also great very uh digestible form of financial statements.
28:17I don't think that I'm paying any greater attention to RDA, but it just seems like they're coming into view more often this year than say last year or the year before.
28:30They have a fairly new executive director, but I think it's probably just change of style, change leadership.
28:41Anything else on RDA for me Southeastern Minnesota Initiative Fund plays.
28:50Uh the Southeast Minnesota Initiative Fund.
28:52We have been providing $15,000 a year.
28:55Um you can see there's not much change um over the first three quarter, well, the last four quarters that we've received financials, their operating reliance ratio has gone up fairly significantly.
29:06Um so uh they have some additional funding coming in in different um of different manner through Smith.
29:14Um, but they have different grant rounds coming in the second and third quarter.
29:19Um, and then they also have they are the host of multiple state grant programs, so some of those peaks and valleys are because they received the grants, and then they're distributing those um in different cycles based on the grant authorization process.
29:33Um and you can see their current ratio sits around nine, and their um operating reliance ratio is about two point six.
29:42They have pretty robust financials, probably wouldn't want any that much more from that uh based on how they operate.
29:48It's quite different than some of the more local nonprofits um versus regional.
29:53Um, and you can tell um on that bottom of that first page.
30:00Some of their the loans that they pass through are a pretty significant part of their financial portfolio.
30:06And from 2022 to 25.
30:17That's a different animal for our little contribution as well.
30:24Will we not see this report then next year?
30:26You would not see this report next year if it's something the council wanted to look at investing in again.
30:37Anything on the Southeastern Minnesota initiative fund.
30:46The Youth Council, another umsa county partnership.
30:49So current funding is $10,000 in the city of Rochester.
30:53Um right on budget towards the end of the quarter.
30:56Um there were without the city's funding, they're sitting right at one on their operating reliance ratio.
31:02Obviously, it's a part of the county, so I'm not seeing the whole county, you know, fund balance against this.
31:08It probably wouldn't fit on a chart with this scale.
31:11Um they have provided us that they so far have total expenses just shy of that 23,000.
31:19Oh, just or just in excess of of the funding that the county provides, meaning that through the end of the year with some of the other travel that happened, it should still be on budget with the funding the city provided.
31:29And this is where then you would see $15,000 of city funding next year, assuming that gets approved.
31:38Any questions on the youth council.
31:42Um, nothing, no question.
31:44I just know that we could expect to hear from them and the whole council an update from two participants of the Japan trip of the mayors.
31:54On December 8th, yes.
31:57Writing a note to myself while we're in the middle of this meeting.
32:03And uh we are to 3M.
32:10Uh the uh reporting that we get, and our presenter for 3M is administrator Zelm.
32:17I think I would just I think it sort of tries to speak for itself, but I know we've talked throughout the last year about whether we could get more consistency.
32:24The reason that you're getting inconsistent things is what we asked specifically wrote in for the requirement is to receive their most recently board approved.
32:33Um I think some of that rationale, which was last year, um, was a desire to make sure their board was actually approving financials.
32:41Um, but that doesn't mean that you couldn't also request other formats.
32:44I think you'd still receive that, but then we could also provide other formats if that's helpful.
32:49Um it appears, I could be wrong, but it appears that many of these groups are using similar financial software, so it's possible to be done by one, it's likely possible to be done by another.
32:59Um, but it would take a little bit of time for Tracy to work with them to make sure they understood what we were asking for.
33:05So I guess I would just leave it open to discussion of whether what we've described here works if we're not describing it well.
33:13If you have examples of what we have from from any specific agency that you would be hoping for, uh that's also helpful for clarity.
33:24Oh, and I don't imagine it'd be very difficult to uh present a different kind of report.
33:29It's just asking the data to present itself uh in some of the same ways that we've seen some of the statements like 22 through 25 or at least 24 25 that uh we can see trends, which I think are really helpful for an oversight committee.
33:50As to your question, Administrator Zones about uh peer organization within this packet.
33:55I I feel like RDAs is the most readable, uh, both from having the comparison and it also includes their approved budget, which is helpful.
34:05And I don't know if all these organizations are approving a budget.
34:08I would hope that they are approving financials from an oversight perspective.
34:13That's a helpful piece of information as well if they have it.
34:17So the RDA um current compared to prior year with the noted change for prior year both for the balance sheet and profit loss would be my preference.
34:28And if they have a budget that can be added in.
34:36I think yes, it's likely doable.
34:39It also might depend on who they have pulling their financial.
34:42We just need to make sure they understand that what we're looking for in a way that makes sense to them.
34:47Um I would just say that from my perspective, I I can be patient on I don't think it will be that hard.
34:55I just it helps to show them something, I think, um, as an example so that they can say, Oh, I've run that report for my board before.
35:03Um, or that's what I use when I'm trying to make sure, you know, if I have an expense, if I can actually do that.
35:09So I think I I don't know how complicated, I don't think it's going to be drastically complicated, but I just wouldn't want to speak for any of these groups.
35:17Like if they're treasurer is changing over or something like that.
35:20If possible, my preference would be a format like the RDAs.
35:27Yeah, and I would agree with that.
35:28I my my question is if if just previous one previous year is enough of a comparison, do we want to ask for multiple previous years?
35:38And then uh I agree with looking at the actual budget numbers.
35:45I could care less about a profit and loss statement at this point from each individual organization as well.
35:50So if that saves them time, um that's that's uh a report that I know is easy to generate, but if if they don't want to generate that one in terms of workload.
36:09If I might just weigh in, I think the longer period of time that's helpful to see is the operating reliance and current ratio graphed out as done.
36:19I think that's been a major improvement this year.
36:22My preference would only be to see the current and one prior period for comparison and simplicity.
36:27I think it's easier to compare.
36:28And I think this gives us a better picture of the city's role in the organization with the current ratio and operating reliance ratio graph as our that's fine.
36:43I was just curious if you know we can certainly uh try that and see if uh it produces the information that makes us feel sure like we are of better use to the system.
36:59Have we given enough direction in uh that regard uh administrator zones?
37:06I I felt I've been feeling like this is what you were looking for, but it's helpful to have like the detailed conversation so that we can work with finance and they can speak um finance to finance.
37:15I'm more of like a budget spanglish finance speaker.
37:19Um not an actual countent.
37:23Sometimes when I'm talking to someone that's doing accounting, I'm like, it's probably a budget way of saying it.
37:30I guess my final point is in addition to being able to be patient.
37:34I don't want this to be a burden for the organizations.
37:36I would hope that it's uh doable.
37:41And if it's not, I would hope that they would that Tracy would report back to us about some of the challenges that organization if this is a burden task, then I'll just know that it's obviously not going to apply to the youth council.
37:55And so if there are organizations that would not be able to do it this year, I I would be in favor of moving forward with the organizations who are able to and work towards a standardization over time.
38:10By the way, should I have asked for some kind of motion to uh receive three B through 3L.
38:16I think we have that last, so I think very good.
38:19Yeah, then we go to another interesting uh report.
38:24We've already started a discussion on that, the SPDC.
38:27Uh and council member Miller had a suggestion about that in terms of moving it within the ready.
38:36So I had the chance to meet with Mark Thine recently, and he was sharing that they have some flexibility in the report.
38:44They're pulling this out of their internal database, which has privacy implications that they would report the entire thing, but he expressed willingness and interest in reformatting it to our needs or purposes.
38:58Um obviously with us as a body of three, no more than one member could interact in that process without violating open meeting law, and it could not be an open meeting from Mr.
39:11Bine's perspective, given the privacy of the data.
39:15So I would just propose that one of us work with him to see what's possible and either generate a new format or discontinue the unusable current format and just roll it into the ready overall.
39:32Yeah, I find uh the current format and I I know a lot of it gets double and triple uh reported because a person of Rochester can also be a woman can also be uh a person of uh some kind of class that is reported elsewhere.
39:46So it's it's uh it's really hard to figure out exactly what what are we getting?
39:55And perhaps an alternative would be a periodic study session update that's live.
40:04And I don't know which of those would be preferable to the organization in our calendars to the council or to the council.
40:14It could be to us as we've talked about.
40:17Um but I would suspect greater interest than the um the request that we made of the specific theater to come and share some of their some additional headsight to their financial statements.
40:32Well, I would guess the entire council would have really great interest in this.
40:35This isn't that's what I mean.
40:37Yeah, so if there's a way to just approve the report that's then more digestible to the council and provide us a council update periodically, that that could be a good first step.
40:47I don't know what Mr.
40:48Dyne's availability is or what how he might present the data to the council that's not this so it might still be worthwhile that one of us meet with him and review the data and the formatting possibilities.
41:02I would certainly be in favor of that, and since council member Miller has initiated uh the conversation, I would be glad to sit down with Mark and see what we can come up with.
41:15And formally the three of us can agree on that very good.
41:19Please go ahead with that.
41:24Thank you for taking the time to do it.
41:29Anything more on are we on 3M?
41:32I guess O would be next.
41:38Of course, there's no guarantee that any of the three of us will be on this agreement.
41:45I assume that you are all buying for it.
41:48I think I put it within the preference uh for continuity.
41:54I have not filled out my preferences yet.
41:56I need to have a conversation with uh council president she bring about something.
42:02I assume that I will be putting it on my preference sheet somewhere.
42:06We surprised where it goes.
42:08Well, I will just say I I did review my calendar and I don't have any conflicts.
42:13I believe these are still on a study session day.
42:17That's how I get it correctly.
42:19I I will full disclosure tell you I did not check that, but um that feels right.
42:25Okay, hope being that June 1st is a Monday.
42:28So I will move to approve the proposed 2026 calendar for the outside agency oversight committee.
42:37Is there a discussion?
42:38I'll have a discussion.
42:40I'll bring my wife to the 6-8 session since it's our fifth 52nd wedding anniversary.
42:46I'm sure she wants to spend the time with us.
42:49So are you gonna be here?
42:51Yeah, or are you not much?
42:54Where's responsibility on your list of um uh strengths?
43:00This responsibility are you is that one of your strengths that you can't find her?
43:05Yes, or was it belief that she would want to come here?
43:08Well, probably probably that all in favor say aye.
43:16It passes, and then finally, uh 3P approving the fourth quarter disbursements, um, which would imply we have discussed uh the previous statements as well.
43:32I'll I'll make a motion approving the 2025 fourth quarter disbursement of funds or allocated agencies as outlined in the packet.
43:40Is there a discussion on that?
43:43I think it's good to see the stability of these organizations overall in the agreement of reporting throughout my brief time on this committee.
43:54And to see some work of uh the city of Rochester, not necessarily under the uh precise uh purview of the council.
44:04All in favor say aye.
44:08Is there any other business for this group?
44:12Hearing none, is there a motion for adjournment?
44:16All in favor say aye.
44:19We are adjourned until 3:30 p.m.