Um yeah, hold on.

Just missed the tax a little bit.

Go ahead.

Okay, we're gonna call the airport commission meeting to order at 2 p.m.

on December 2nd.

And we always start with our open comment period, but there is no one in the room.

So we need unless someone has an objection, we'll just move on.

Um and so uh we have a quorum.

No one's online, so we don't need to uh don't sleep the roll call, but we're all here.

Anyone have any issues with the order of the agenda as it was sent to you?

Okay, so we have a consent agenda before us, and on there is the our is uh 4A.

It's the minutes of the October 7th meeting.

And we have a motion to approve those.

I make that motion.

Second.

It's been moved and seconded.

Does anybody have any issues, comments, questions?

Okay, if not, all those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Any opposed.

So we have approved the minutes, and now we go to our fun reports.

John, who's gonna Yeah, Kyle Kyle walk us through these as well as the um requirements.

So we have the airport uh operational and marketing data is 5A and 5B as airport financials.

And Mary's not with us today, so we could probably take take uh wait for Mary to talk further when she comes back.

Okay.

Yeah, starting with the uh organizational objectives.

Um we are close on our employments number.

We may still hit it for that in the year.

Um depends on what November and December look like, but uh we're pretty darn close.

Um similar with uh seats available.

We had a little bit of a bump in November.

So that should help us get five percent.

Um and uh passenger retention.

I don't think we're gonna make that 20%, but we'll still keep trying for it.

Um our overall passengers are steadily increasing as they have all year.

Um we're at uh I think six percent year over year um altogether.

And uh our load factors went down just a little bit, but it's also because our uh capacity has increased uh a little bit as well, with the actually the American capacity increasing quite a bit um over the previous month.

Can we ask a question on the passenger retention?

What is that exactly?

So it so we have a we have a um a defined um um area um based based on the federal government, and so that's our um um a retention area as it would be.

Think of it maybe as an MSA, but but a little bit more expanded.

It goes up towards the cities for whatever reason, you know, we we go over to towards lacrosse, but it doesn't count lacrosse and a little bit of Iowa.

And so you look at uh the volume of tickets that are actually purchased in that area, and so this that tells us what uh percentage of that that we're retaining.

I see.

So it's not retention of previous RST passengers, it's retention of your geographics, correct?

Yeah, so uh I would say, you know, um I don't know, a couple times a year, uh maybe quarterly, we were able to pull DOT data and look within the zip codes of that area for anybody who's purchased the ticket and see where they bought it from to so forth.

Yeah, yeah.

And John we peaked in the 30s.

We did pre-pandemic, we were right at 30 percent, but a lot of work.

Um we were sub-15% at about 2015, then of course United came into the market.

Um and we were in that uh plus 30 percent range at that point.

With a dozen to 13 daily flights.

That's correct.

I mean, there's a big opportunity here.

Absolutely retention of it with United coming back.

Okay.

Yeah, I think some of the highlights here, you know, we're we're double digit improvements um um in October, um, six percent for the year.

It was encouraging to see uh five percent growth from American uh, but also 15% from Delta in the month.

Um and so as you look at year over year, plus nine and then plus three for Delta and American respectively.

Good production on numbers.

I think you're gonna see, you know, obviously in the um capacity that drives your load factors.

You see some variances in there.

Um, but good steady growth, which is where we want to be.

That's okay.

Yeah, but the study increases result in steadily increases and other things, such as our parking lot revenue, um and other concessionaire type revenues.

So um any questions on those with this thing?

Anybody else have questions?

All right.

Um next are our financials, and again, we're doing uh well there.

Um I always like to remind people that next year we won't have the COVID funds.

This year is about a million dollars uh to our bottom line there.

Uh we won't have next year.

Um, but all of our categories are within you know acceptable ranges.

Um we did have a snowfall already, so we may have some additional expenses for salaries um the rest of the year here.

That's one of our um variables.

It's that staff time for snow.

The last year having pretty light year, a very light year for snow was helpful to the budget.

Absolutely, yeah.

Yeah.

And I think you know, further as you look at the budget, if you notice the fund balances, uh future construction coming online.

So it's really looking like it's depleting.

One of the things Kyle's gonna begin to work on with the city staff is at least accounting for the dollars that need to be reimbursed to RST on active projects, not only from the FAA, but from um um min dot via state bonding, because there's um serious dollars that need to continue to be recouped.

Um activities should start to happen with the federal government coming back to work.

Um, but of course, you know, um, it has to be submitted by the municipality, so it just takes time.

But I I think it'll present a better picture to the group here, other than the 6.3 million.

There's dollars that need to be recouped here.

Most of the revenue.

Yeah, for sure.

Does anybody have any other questions?

Is there more information you want to share?

Or was that enough of an overview?

Overview, you know.

No.

Okay.

Well, thank you for those.

It's fun to see the numbers, both financially and usage going in a positive direction.

So terrific.

Um, old business.

None new business.

We have 7A, which is replacement of air conditioning cooling systems equipment to mitigate higher humidity levels in the Federal Aviation Administration, air traffic control tower, which is located in the city-owned building under lease to the FAA.

Yeah.

So I'll let I'll just kind of preamble here, but um have Kurt talk a little further in depth.

So we are responsible for operation and maintenance uh of the building that the FAA does lease for us.

We've got um some pretty old equipment, um, especially the HVAC equipment that resides in that building.

But again, pretty critical uh pieces of equipment, especially up in the tower cap itself.

Um, not only the air conditioning, but the humidity levels and uh really that AC unit kind of has hit the end of its life.

And um, so it's time for a replacement.

Uh that's gonna stretch back probably to the 1950s.

It's probably the second oldest in the state after Duluth, which is being replaced.

Okay.

So it's so the upgrades needed, and you're not looking at replacing it anytime soon.

Not the tower, absolutely not.

I mean, that's gonna be a um um significant project.

Yeah, we're not on that list.

Yeah.

So with that, I'll really kind of turn it over, Kurt here.

Yeah, just uh kind of a you know, challenging problem on a lot of different levels, as you mentioned, dealing with a really old building.

Um, the air conditioner was uh about 20 years old, so that's probably needed replacement.

So one of the solutions we came up with, all right.

It's good new air conditioner because that's gonna take care of that cooling issue.

But this particular this summer was particularly poor for humidity, so just a higher humidity.

If you kind of talk in those circles, there was a higher humidity summer for some reason.

And and even as we ran that air conditioner, it could run enough to take it without cooling it to 60 up there, it could not remove enough humidity to make it in a comfortable setting.

So we looked at a lot of different solutions where we had a small boiler to actually heat the air prior to cooling it, which is the only way to really get the humidity out.

Really?

Yeah.

So that's kind of the that's kind of the project in a crux.

And so we got big is the space.

And how many, how many FA is it just FAA staff up there?

Yes, and just that top, you know, that when you see the glass did area, that's what it is.

It's it's you know, I don't know, 500 square feet, 800 square feet.

How many traffic controllers is more at a time?

Three to four.

But it's that particular space is really uh susceptible to like it.

It's the coldest place in the spring when it cools down at night or in the fall.

And it's and then later that day it'll be the hottest place because the glass is crystal clear, no tinting, and it and the sun beats through at an angle.

So it's it's a very it needs a lot of robust to you know air handling to manage the heat.

Have you looked?

Yeah, I'm sure it is.

Sounds like my son.

Sounds like a cocktail.

I mean, it's not probably way different than that, honestly.

Is there like triple paying glass in there?

Is there something you could do to help improve the environment?

Glass is specified by the address.

That's just particularly specification.

Replace the glass has got to be certain standards.

We have replaced some panels that have given and it's 25,000 a panel.

Yeah, that's a lot of money.

So the we we have two proposals for the air conditioning and that small boiler, and uh MMC was the of the two.

We had MMC and um Paris.

And then the only other thing we have to do is to be able to control those units and see and chart exactly what they're doing.

We have to have a Johnson controls upgrade, which that is uh that's our HBAC software.

So we don't, and that's proprietary.

We have really no option to go out for bid on that because that they do the whole our whole terminal is part of John's proposals.

Do a 10 million dollar HPAC upgrade.

So as you're doing the Johnson controls for 49,000 for an upgrade, technical upgrade, is that really well it improves the software, it it brings everything up.

So could look at it like a computer.

Yeah, so thinking just for that or for the whole it'll it'll help other other areas too.

But it is but it because this new air conditioner will be operating at that newest level of say windows preps.

I mean, not that's not exactly true, but I mean the that's the context anyway that we have to be we have to upgrade the Johnson controls.

And it's very important that we can map exactly what's happening in the tower so we could show hey, here's the a printed chart of what the temperature swings were last uh week.

I'd say we have a very narrow band of allowances related to our contract with the FAA through their employees on what the temperature can be and what the humidity levels can be.

So very challenging.

Well, I will say, you know, when you look at the kinds of expenses we put out at the airport, this is fairly minimal compared to many of the projects you brought forward for the last few years since I've been here.

So um well, we didn't have it budgeted, that's why we're back here to talk about it.

Absolutely.

So even even that can affect it.

So does anyone have specific questions beyond?

So um, did you have an estimate as to what you expected this would come in or did we as well?

Well, we were two for a proposal our own RFP process and we asked for the bids for that from suppliers.

So it wasn't budgeted, so we you didn't have an estimate of what you expected.

Because we didn't budget, we didn't have an estimate.

I think it's if that's that's yeah, because we didn't it was an unexpected, it's an unexpected expense.

And this was low bid.

And it's a it's not a high ticket item either.

Okay.

So this is airport owns the tower.

Correct.

So they're leasing space.

I thought we're responsible for the OM.

That's correct.

Is there any ability to recoup these types of investments?

Or is the least map kind of independent of these types of investments?

So we have longer term agreements with the FA.

I that one's about a 10-year like it's a hundred, it's just about 100 grand a year, which we're at, right?

Typical governmental leasing policies.

There's small increases over the years, but something like that.

Did we not do that?

Maybe this wasn't the one, but I thought we just updated this within the last like two years.

Um maybe it was a different end of it.

Well, if you did they have other space that we feel like we did do an expense, a lease update with the update the lease on this, you might figure in the cost to try to recoup them.

I think that's what I'm hearing.

So maybe another way of asking that if it were if there comes a tie when we need to replace or move the tower, because we wouldn't replace it with the same kind of tower.

Correct.

We would get on a list.

Those are 100% typically paid for by the towers are just a difficult thing.

Uh if you kind of notice Duluth's journey towards a new tower again, it's older than ours.

Um lots of different funding buckets to to make about a 80 hundred million dollar uh project come together.

It's difficult.

Well, we're in the runway.

Okay.

So do I have uh a motion to approve the item 7A?

So moved.

So moved.

Do we have a second?

Second.

It's been moved and seconded.

Any further discussion or questions?

Seeing none.

All those in favor signify by saying aye.

All aye.

Any opposed?

Well, thank you.

This is it's taken Kurt a long time to work through this.

Just simply it's pretty technically detailed and to get to where we need to be.

And I think we've got a uh pretty good project pulled together.

It's a long time to get there, but yeah.

So on that.

And then uh 7V is actually a terminal space lease, AL Clinic.

Yeah, so this is uh um uh a lease of space agreement with a Mayo Clinic for the establishment of an employee lounge at the airport.

So this is 744 square feet within the terminal area, it's located up by gate one.

Um again for Mayo Clinic employees to be able to access, maybe get out of the limelight a little bit, um, take private phone calls if necessary.

Um Mayo Clinic playing for all the improvements.

Uh term of the lease is five years with an additional five year option.

Um at least per square foot is 25.96 cents per square foot.

It has annual escalations of five percent.

Um it will generate 19,314 uh 24 cents annually uh for uh RST.

Happy to take any questions.

Yeah, so are there are there other spaces for people to step off and work?

Because there's on the if you're talking about the first floor, it's one and two.

And to the left of one, there's you go around the corner and there's some space in there in a room.

Is that the area you're talking about?

So gate one is upstairs.

Okay, so on that one.

Yeah, kind of if you if you remember where Delta used.

Yes, okay.

It's in that particular area.

Okay, so it's up there.

So there is still space on the first floor around the corner for people that need to step away.

Absolutely.

Okay, that's what I tried to see that we weren't closing up.

No, this was unused space.

Okay, great.

Yeah, so now uh generating revenue um uh for RST.

Is this the first time Mayo has decided to do a lounge?

To my knowledge, yes.

Um at the airport.

I don't know if Kyle, if you can pull that up on the main screen or not.

Um can we turn on the television?

Absolutely.

Let's do that.

I was just pleased to see some space being people working down there, they get there in you know, early for the plane, and there were people actually around the corner working.

I I bust over there and saw them and I thought, well, that's kind of the nice.

Yeah, no, or in that little cubby that's another great another great space.

Nice.

Um yeah.

And at the same time, Mayo's installed um uh Wi-Fi connections not only for the employee, but um um uh patient population can log into that well as well.

So it actually I think it will relieve some of the um burden that we currently carry for uh Wi-Fi connections at at the airport.

Are you gonna when you say burden?

What does that mean?

Um so more accessibility, just more ports out there for some people.

You're gonna still keep it for people who aren't patients and staff.

Okay, it just but if you were connected down in Mayo and then you came to the airport, your phone would automatically connect because you the same Wi-Fi I saw downtown.

Got it.

We thought we put up a few pictures here.

Um of the space.

I don't know if you got another one or not, or is that uh okay?

Yeah, well, good finishes and again uh Mayo uh Mayo did the financial investment on um construction and and building out the space.

Um so I do notice that there is food and drink there, which means you're gonna lose money.

Sorry, I don't know why it's not restaurant.

Oh so um the the restaurant itself is doing that catering to to mail, so now we won't lose out on revenue for that.

Everything's free except what you might order on the kiosk.

Yeah, but Mayo's paying for it.

That's correct.

So it's not lost right enough.

Okay, great.

Yeah, yeah.

So it looks like I need to get a mail badge in order to have a nice resting place.

It's like a mini delta air force.

It does less proudly thanks.

And what was what was in this space?

So that was space that we had built out during um our US Customs project.

The original intent was for uh V V IPs, but the reality is is no one uses it.

And um people immediately pass through the facility, get in vehicles and depart.

Um, so it's perfect opportunity to put the space into use and generate revenue.

I'd say the bigger ask we've had is when we as we were trying to enforce the fly RSD policy, has been people are more concerned about getting stranded in another airport or go downtime there.

Um so we've had other initiatives around trying to understand what we can do for them there, but we thought this was we're trying to take away every barrier for the that's that's out there, right?

To encourage and I think the load factor they're bearing out that there's some improvement there, but we know with additional plates, we have to fill more and more.

So um and how are you gonna like advertise this?

Somehow the staff it's been advertised already.

It's it's amazing what people like you would think it would just be all positive, right?

And I think it has mostly been positive, but like there's someone that are like, oh, there's like a there's like a space where you can work, and someone's like, are you expecting me to work?

Well, I'm trying I'm expecting do whatever you want.

I do whatever you want.

You can do it.

Yeah.

Um, so there's only a few of those.

I think it's overwhelmingly been positive.

It's it's only been recently opened on a month.

Yeah, less sub a month, couple weeks.

So um I don't have the side of feedback yet, but I think it's again one more thing we're putting on the list of we're gonna try to make it as convenient as possible when you fly RST.

So um, and we're trying to do another yet another push through other internal communication thrown up, right?

So especially with the United Plains Company.

We've asked for like a monthly report too for the car to put badge holder down to kind of see and kind of see who's been in there.

Yeah.

Okay.

So they use their mail badge to get in.

That's correct.

Yeah.

Great.

So staff recommends approval.

I'm sure Mayo recommends approval.

Does someone want to move?

I can move it.

I moved.

Second, second it.

All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

Okay.

Any opposed?

I would be interested in the data, I will say, to see if how this works out.

We we don't have a delta lounge.

We don't have an American lounge, right?

Um C land lease and development agreement authorizing a land lease for a construction for the construction of a hangar.

And it looks like infrastructure development between the city, the airport, and United Therapeutics.

Yeah.

So um again, this is uh uh a land lease agreement um um with United Therapeutics.

So just kind of go through the terms here for you, and then we can enter into a deeper discussion if you wish.

Um lease area contains 143,720 uh square feet, as you can see up on the drawing up there that is west of the existing general aviation area.

Uh term is for 40 years, with two options to extend for two additional five-year time periods.

The beginning rental rate for uh the 143,000 square feet is 35 cents per square feet, um, with a 3% annual escalation and reappraisals and rent adjustments every 10 years.

In addition, UT um is agreed to invest a minimum of $9 million into the hangar build.

Um, and on top of that, uh UT will invest in the development of the base infrastructure.

Um that carries uh uh an engineer's estimated cost of about 5.5 million dollars, of which uh RST has secured a $1 million grant from Mindot Aeronautics to help offset that cost.

Um T will um um work with the city of Rochester to establish an escrow account uh where we can draw against um the financial um well to to have our financial responsibility squared away is what I'm trying to say with that.

Um will receive for the investment a 75% uh rental rate credit on the uh 35 cents per square feet.

So we'll will capture 25% of the 35 cents is what I'm telling you for the base investment.

Um not an untypical um arrangement for airports um when you're opening up new green field opportunities.

Again, we think it is about a 5.5 million dollar investment, and that includes um the taxiway, the apron, um, the perimeter road that we'll need to access from the main ramp over to that location for fuel for de-icing, anything else, as well as the utilities and the entrance road into the hangar area.

So what's not depicted here is the ability for us then to begin to lease further parcels to the east uh based on the infrastructure investment that will already have been in place.

We'll be able to fit up to three um um 20,000 square foot hangars um or two, I'm sorry, four 20,000 square foot hangars, or two um of these approximately uh 40,000 square foot hangars that uh um at therapeutics will build in this location.

Um 20,000 square foot hangars, or two um of these approximately uh 40,000 square foot hangars that uh um United Therapeutics will build in this location.

So uh I'm done with my spiel with all the base information.

So happy to happy to take questions from um the commission.

So John, can you just go over the agreement again as far as like the nine million?

Is the nine million go into the no the nine million is they're an agreed upon minimum investment in the hangar itself that they will build.

Okay, and that's their investment a lot.

Then the five million ones we walk.

The the engineers estimated 5.5 million is for the base infrastructure.

So look at this as greenfield at this point.

We have no utilities, so that's water, sewer, gas, um, electricity that needs to be brought from the far west side of our existing general aviation facility out to this area that includes a paved road from the ramp out to this area, taxi lane, um, about 60 61,000 uh square feet of ramp as well as the entrance road.

They're paying for all of that.

They pay for all that.

Okay.

Um, and so the S Crock account holds so the escrow account will hold the balance uh of a bid.

So in the next several months, we'll have the plans developed.

Um you entered into an agreement with me not last month to do that.

We will bid that out, and then we'll understand a full uh dollar amount of the proposed construction.

Uh we have a million dollars of a grant from MINDOT.

So we'll offset the total by approximately a million dollars, and then we'll have an escrow account established on that dollar amount.

Got it.

So can I ask just not about the specific proposal, but about what you said, there's room for two more.

That's correct.

So how help me understand?

I understand that there's room.

Yeah.

Uh how does that impact the usage of the airport and your ability to manage it all?

If you've got three new new hangars, new hangars, which means three new business, three more business, right?

That's a great thing for the airport, great thing for the community to have you can handle it all.

Absolutely.

Okay, I just wasn't sure where we're sitting or if there's gonna be more needs.

Yeah, I mean, we hope there's more needs in the future.

We hope that there's more business development, business growth, and desire by companies to make investments out here, and we'd probably enter into similar agreements as we uh keep moving forward.

Yeah, it'd be a good thing.

Okay.

There's been little um to no general aviation investment in the last 20 plus years.

So a good revitalization of that area is exciting.

We're on the edge of that with our um um um massive Chia projects that'll start this spring, $13 million construction project.

So that'll be in addition to this.

Okay.

Yeah.

John, was there a reason the site furthest from existing development was chosen versus working your way out, just thinking water costs.

No, I the roadway.

Great questions.

I I think there's some challenges out there.

Number one, when you go back out on the main ramp itself, there's a lot of legal challenges as it relates to existing leases that are already in place, plus the given size of the hangar um itself.

And then um we do have, you know, in this upcoming project, you know, we're we're putting a taxi lane through here to open up small hangar development.

And then if you look here, you do have some terrain challenges in the middle that I I'd rather tackle at the very end versus right now.

I'd I'd I'd hate to spend millions of dollars to work on the train here when we have existing train that are working right now.

And Mindot's good with the access.

Um Meet and Hunt's working on that.

If not, we've got access off of there right now.

And we're we're financially okay on that.

Is this farmed?

Currently, some of this space is farmed.

This right here is currently in a land lease.

Um you'll see um uh corn or soybeans in this.

This right now is all grass and it does get hayed at the moment.

And it's our land to lease.

It is our land to lease.

They know they're gonna lose land, whoever's farming it now.

Not on not unknown in any of our agreements with our farmers.

We have the ability to take that back when we need to.

Um, if there's open crops on it on that time, of course, we repay the farmers for that.

Other questions or concerns.

It's it's been a great company to work with and work through this process.

Um, looking forward to watching uh what I hope is a very um well-built, beautiful hangar come out of the ground.

And is there who's their relationship with locally?

Is it Mayo?

Does it United Therapeutics?

Yeah, I do believe they have a relationship with Mayo, yeah.

Yeah.

And how where is the point?

It's close to that, right?

Um, I think the existing facilities and stuff.

Yeah, that's what we wonder.

Yeah, and this is of course north of the interstate.

This is highway 30.

These are the general aviation area.

Kyle, if you can pull up a Google Earth, maybe that gives a better representation of where everything is at closest.

Yeah, so the hangar will be right in this particular area.

Here's our existing general aviation area.

Kyle, you can scoot out.

Oops.

And you can the terminal is of course over here.

Uh bills, obviously, and they're out there at on the north end of somewhere in somewhere in this particular industrial park.

You do you know how many flights they'll be taking in a week?

I do not we should benefit from the sale of fuel and yeah, the ancillary sales of fuel maintenance, anything else that they need to accomplish.

Who knows?

I mean, would they base crews that would live in our community that would fly the aircraft, maintain the aircraft?

Would they also then likely use Great Plains for some of their possibility, but obviously buying fuel, you know, locally as well.

How many planes will that hanger house?

Well, um a 40,000 square foot hangar is double the size of this existing hangar, um, easily enough to hold um two Gulf Streams, two globals.

Um, so two large aircraft and the potential for you know smaller aircraft chunked in, tucked in beside.

That's what I know of their fleet mix that could change.

Right, yeah.

And that has their plans to resurface Humber 30.

Yeah.

Are they aware of that?

The uh you know they're getting screwed.

I don't know how that impacts.

Yeah, I don't know that it's going to affect construction, you know, you know, uh of hangar, but I I don't know if they I haven't told Mindot directly.

You know, we're we're our engineers are having discussions with you know, access off of there or or here, either which one, either which one worked for us financially.

Um, and of course, we've got a you know substantial project happening here this year.

Yeah.

Do you know when's the last time we built a private hangar at the airport?

Um uh not of that size, obviously.

This one was built in I believe 2018.

Um, but that's you know, about a 2,000 square foot facility.

So the last one of that size was never.

The last one of this size was never.

That's correct.

So half was half-size things are by two thousand one.

Yeah, I view it as a substantial private investment into um into RST.

Uh I view it as exciting, and then of course the ability, you know, if uh if another entity decided they wanted to build a hangar, uh that ability to accommodate that, which we don't right now.

Um, you know, you go back to our master plan, um you scroll out just a bit, Kyle, so I can see the general aviation area here.

You know, what we've done, you know, is uh we've acquired these smaller hangars, um, um, all but that one at this point here, um, so that we have the ability in the future to place let's say 20,000 square foot hangers across the face of this ramp.

So the ability to open up new areas is uh without a lot of local investment is really good.

So I have a question on the lease agreement.

Is this a like a typical lease agreement?

Uh as far as the negotiating the lease agreement was the tur the initial terms accepted.

I'm just looking at it as you know, potential model for future lease agreements.

Yeah, I would say it's exceptionally typical.

And we worked with Captain Kirch and Rockwell, um, you know, our legal representation on the aviation to side to develop this lease.

I would say is very much can be a template for future development again, depending upon the investment.

Um when you look at the financial investment and the dollars, not only the hangar itself, but the um the time and money of the capital that their investment in the vape basin infrastructure, it's worth the 40 years.

So you have to measure a little bit about how many years is that lease really really worth.

And a bit of it's a gauge and work through that with the attorneys and then the owners themselves.

Yeah.

So I'd say it's a very good template for the future development.

Sounds good.

Another question.

We had recently also approved the change for the land of signature that also allows for future expansion.

That's correct.

You did.

You um I think two commission meetings ago, you approved um a um land lease option with great planes.

Um signature flight support did give up some of this property here, which they did hold.

It allows and gives Great Plains four years to develop um a minimum of 20,000 square foot hangar in this particular um location.

So there's options that Great Plains by Aeronautical Mechanical Support to all the aviation standalone aviation services, uh, flight training, um, and maintenance in particular, but they're moving towards avionics and other lines of business.

I'd actually expect to see this hangar start to come down this fall, correct?

Well, that's a so I mean it just seems like a very positive, like um symbiotic sort of there may be real growth.

There's the additional need for those kinds of services, which then means that others may also want to be there and also continue to spin up.

And I believe the CEO of United Therapeutics is pretty engaged in aviation and like the next generation of ABC.

Engaged in electric aviation.

So is this something that you would uh generate public relations for?

And you know, I think some coverage.

I think what we'll do is work back with UT on some public announcements when they're ready to do that.

Um, but you know, I'd expect um once this is initiated, there's a time period for due diligence and then a set time period for for actually building.

Um I know they're still working back through their planning document right now is what does that hangar really really look like?

Um, one thing that we will come back to the commission with is a is an actual meets and bounds um survey of the property.

Um we left that out at the time.

We believe this is the space that they want, but want to leave room if they need to go bigger for whatever reason.

Um so once the uh architectural team that they've hired has an exact layout, then we'll have a meets and bounds that we'll come back and we'll amend this agreement with.

But we need this agreement in place so we can keep moving forward uh legally on both sides.

Well, this is gonna sound odd, but like around the airport, there's security or fencing.

Yeah, um, this appears to be like outside that.

Are they going to be responsible for their own security and maintenance because it's outside you know, kind of outside in a way?

Well, the fence line itself will get adjusted and it will it will tie in immediately with the hangar on each side.

Yeah, and I don't know, Kurt, talk with me.

You know, I don't think you and I talk in great detail, depending upon um the entity that we're working with.

Sometimes we integrate their access control with ours, and sometimes, you know, based on applying with the TSA, you can have your own.

Most entities usually integrate into our own access control.

So a person coming up to the back door would swipe a badge.

And they would be responsible for escorting anybody that they brought in.

It's not quite at the same level as you'd have around the ramp area.

Right.

That's what I was, but that's I'm not saying anything.

Okay.

Openly on TV.

Okay.

Yeah.

There would be background checks for all of the employees.

It's all segregated based on need.

Um, and then you know, background checks on the individuals.

The goal would be to have our access control system up there.

So that all the badge, same badge people, same betting process.

Yeah, they would they would have to have airport badges to be on the ramp in that area, regardless.

So they pay for the fencing, or is that something you're taking care of?

Yep, that's all part of that project.

Nice.

The defense is very not very far away.

Yeah, the fence at least it's right through here, right?

We just have to bend it back and tighten up with the building.

Okay.

Typical, you know, any of those, you'll have sacrificial fence, and then you just run it back and tighten with the hanger.

I mean, signature, for instance, has our card readers inside, so that we control who those doors.

Yeah.

And if necessary, if we feel like it, like we want at some point, I expect we'll have a gate out here.

We'll probably have C C T D out there as well.

So that we can, you know, monitor the gate activity.

Okay.

Okay.

It's an exciting project.

It's a great opportunity for the community and a great investment.

So staff would recommend approving.

I'm looking for a motion.

It's been moved.

Is there a second?

It's been moved and seconded.

Any further discussion or questions?

Seeing none, all those in favor of land lease and development agreement.

Signify by saying aye.

Opposed.

Right.

And you have one more.

Um, this is we're not really looking for a vote here.

This is more uh informational.

So every five years, we as the airport have to go out for uh engineering services, architectural services, environmental.

Um this is more of a notice.

Um, you know, I have a draft here.

I apologize that it didn't get into the package here, but um this is pretty much what we did the last time.

Um we'll put that out for bid here.

Our goal here is to um advertise that um about the 12th of December.

Um deadline for uh questions about the 22nd of December and um final product due to us um uh about the 12th of January.

We would look to bring this back to the commission um somewhere about March 3rd with final um approval by council on the 16th of March.

And we have flexibility um um in this if we want to take a little bit longer, we just can't accept grants uh until we do, but I don't see that as any danger.

Um we're not near anywhere near grant season, but typical process.

Um Kurt and uh myself and uh the city's engineer have agreed to do the review of the statement of qualifications from engineering firms that are interested.

And typical process, you're not really looking at dollars, you're looking at the qualifications of the firm.

And then you after you've selected a firm, you go back and you negotiate a contract with um the engineering firm.

Okay, bring that back to you for approval.

Um, and so we're not gonna vote on this today.

This is information.

Just more informational.

I didn't want you as a commission to see um uh you know, um uh solicitation out there without at least some knowledge that was out there.

So just so I'm clear, so this is something that the FAA requires on a every five-year basis.

That's correct, regardless of whether we're going to use these uh these um consultants or vendors, and it sort of creates a list for us to use or no.

We'll select one firm to do the work for us.

You know, I know there's some big big airports that are multiples, but that's not where we need to be.

But there's no specific work attached to this.

So it's it's got a lot of potential work.

Okay.

So every time we want to do a project, we enter into an amendment to that agreement with Meaden Hunt, um, and we bring that back to you for approval.

But if the if the five years have expired and you hadn't done this, you could not move forward.

That's correct.

Yeah, so timing's always pretty perfect.

Um when you put these out and when you accept um new firms.

Yeah, five years again.

You know, this is a very typical process.

There's nothing really here that varies from what the FA wants to be done.

So you said firms.

So is it a pool of firms?

No, we'll select one firm from anybody who does decide to um apply.

So then there's no bidding process for this scope of work.

That's correct.

Got it.

Yeah, it's all based on qualifications.

Okay.

All right.

Well, we appreciate the heads up on that.

And um, we do have other other business, it's more just uh a heads up um for you.

And I think Michan's been in contact, I think.

Uh airport about the IRC.

Oh.

I don't think these guys don't.

Mary.

Mary, Mary does.

So uh one of the things that airports do around the country is some sort of flag, a display, something at airports about their sister city relationships.

We have several examples of airports from around the country that do that.

And so the IRC had wanted something out at the airport identifying our international sister cities.

So Michael was going to set up a meeting with Mary to just see if there was, you know, to start a conversation about seeing if there was a place or a possibility for something like that.

Absolutely.

If that's what the city would like to do, like just it was just an opening conversation.

IRC, International Relations Committee.

Yeah.

So that's there's a five five cities and countries, and we don't know if this will go anywhere, but it is we keep seeing them at airports and thought, well, maybe it's time to see if you have a display case or you want a flag or if there would be a point.

Yep, yep.

Mary's the perfect contact.

I just wanted to give you a heads up so you weren't surprised.

Okay.

Me too.

Huh?

It's other business.

Um is there anything else?

Here I have something just quickly.

I just wanted to provide the yes.

I want to provide the commission an update on the Jazby because this has consumed a lot of my time over the last six months.

Uh we successfully met.

Uh Randy was there.

We successfully met for the first time on November 21st.

Uh Mr.

Schubring is the chair of the zip uh the Jazby, uh, Councilmember Keene is the vice chair.

Um, and so the first meeting was just kind of to elect the chair of the vice chair, uh, give the board some uh indication as to what we're looking for.

Uh the next meeting is scheduled for January 23rd.

That will be sort of the technical meeting where we'll propose the custom versus the model zoning ordinance to the to the Jazby, have them provide the direction to us as to which direction they want to go.

We'll actually draft that ordinance and then likely have one other meeting, maybe February or March where we will have a public hearing and get the new um zoning adopted.

So just want to provide that update.

And just a little color to add to that.

So uh there was if there was a spirited discussion, it was uh generated by our colleagues, uh the two one of the representatives from the county who was concerned that there was not township um representation on the Jazby, and we informed them that as the two county uh sl uh representatives, they could have appointed anybody they wanted.

They could have appointed township representatives or Stuartville representatives.

I don't know that that satisfied them, but I I even I even uh I even suggested that they could give up their own seat and but Stuartville represented that I don't think they want to do that, but I think we may see uh some township represent representatives at the open comment period next at the next meeting.

And there's nothing to stop them from coming to the meetings and listening and sharing their opinion.

Right.

Open comment period would be the appropriate spot to do that at the next meeting.

And then uh actually one of the Dodge County Commissioners reminded everybody that in order for us to actually adopt the ordinance, it has to be a public hearing.

Um so obviously any member of Stuartville or one of the townships were welcome to come and provide input at that time spot.

Thank you for that.

I think the next meeting will be more informative as we begin to dig deeper into the state laws around zoning.

Should be an interesting meeting.

Or does the count I can't remember?

Does it have to adopt it or no?

Jazz be is the final authority.

So after the public hearing, uh two meetings from now.

Nobody is above the Jazz.

Not even possible.

The pilot would say uh the air view in the ground below you.

The t-shirt's made for the good.

All right.

Well, I appreciate that.

And if there's nothing else, we can adjourn at 248.

Yep.

Thank you very much.

I get it.

All right.

Well, thank you all.

Your resume building.