2:04Hello, Erica is here.
2:18I can hear you now, yes.
2:20Okay, sorry about that.
2:24So Eric, I'm just telling them some good stuff about season 74 here.
2:31So yeah, um, really healthy sponsorships, and we're hoping that most of those will run new, and we do have some new season sponsors already lined up for season 75, which of course is a huge milestone that we're really excited to be celebrating.
2:44Our donations have really grown in the last year.
2:47That has been a major focus of my onboarding.
2:50Um, I think that we have amazing community support, uh, but just that sort of day donation branch of our work has hasn't quite been as nurtured because capacity issues with our small staff.
3:04And so that's been something I've been really trying to take a advantage of and build those relationships out.
3:10So I do have some facts about that.
3:13You know, we've got 20% more annual donations um compared to last season, 35% more unique donors compared to last season, and um, we have some new recurring donations, which again recurring donations are just so important to uh nonprofit helps us really plan and also stabilize for unexpected challenges, like you mentioned for Gotheri Experienced.
3:36So yeah, we're excited to see that grow.
3:40Um couple of things that I think are worth highlighting about season 74.
3:44We have 25 sold-out performances, we had six school matinees that were really well attended for our theater for young audiences, um, four free engagement or enrichment events, and um then we hosted 58 community partner events at our our facility.
4:01So when you add up our public events as well as those community partner events, it's just a lot of a lot of active days over in the building where people could come and take advantage of what we produce or what other community partners are offering.
4:13Um yeah, some finances things.
4:17Um our expenses are right in line with what we budgeted, which is great.
4:21Um, ticket sales, which is a major contributor to our um our earned revenue, right?
4:27Um, have been a little under what we had expected.
4:30Um, I think there's a couple of things going on there.
4:32We did have a few sell-out shows and we did have some shows that performed over expectations, and then we had a few shows that were under expectations.
4:40So when it's all said and done, we're a little below what we wanted our earned revenue to to be.
4:45Um, I do think there's a couple of challenges that we faced this year that have um contributed to that.
4:54One is we have an issue with third-party sellers, which we know is an ongoing issue for the state, the nation, etc.
5:02Um, I happen to serve on the board of Minnesota System for the Arts, and I know that that's something that they're working on as well.
5:08Um, so I'm hoping that with new legislation that can actually help us and protect us further.
5:14So hopefully that challenge will be addressed kind of outside of the way our organization can, but we're doing everything we can, and of course, just making sure our community and teaching our community about that so they're not being taken advantage of is a huge part of the work.
5:28So that has been a major teller because I um issue because I think that that actually people sign on, they Google, and then they say, oh, 200 for a ticket.
5:39Well, in actuality, it's 37.
5:41So we'll never be more than 37.
5:44So if they had known that, they may have bought, right?
5:46But they stopped there.
5:47So we've we're doing what we can to um, you know, just teach and make sure people know that we work really hard and our donors work really hard and our grants work really hard to keep those ticket sales, um, those ticket prices low.
6:01Um, I also think that economic concerns have played a contributing factor as well to that, um, just because it's so outlandish, sort of some of the lows that we saw this year.
6:10And I just think it's people feeling a little bit more tight and they're being a little more restricted about how they put their money out, and which is understandable.
6:17So that as well as rising costs that affects all of us, including the nonprofit sector, um, even organizations that are putting, you know, all that money right into the stage and all that.
6:27So that's, I think those are the kind of overarching things.
6:31Um, some very cool things that we're excited about for season 75 that I want you all to be aware of.
6:37We are gonna do two new programming strands that will hopefully offer some again free access to um different offerings.
6:45We're gonna do a new play reading series, probably two titles a year.
6:49Um, our hope is that we can center diverse community issues with those play readings, so that uh again being able to partner with different community partners, being able to um just access arts in a different way.
7:02Um, everybody loves big Barray musicals, but there's another part that theater can do, which is build that empathy about issues that are about racial diversity or about economic stress and all of those things.
7:12So that's our hope with that new play series.
7:14We may series we may be able to address that.
7:16Um, we also are going to introduce um our cabaret nights, which is just going to be a fun way to kind of introduce maybe some musical titles that you wouldn't necessarily see on our show, but on our stage, but are worth you know having some good music.
7:29Um, and then pay what you can performances.
7:31That is a real big initiative that I think is really important.
7:34We want to make sure that everybody in our community feels welcome at the Rochester Civic Theater.
7:39And so pay what you can nights will help to remove that financial barrier.
7:43We just ask people to pay literally whatever they can to get a ticket if that's a dollar, we want them to come see the show.
7:48So um I'm working on lining up specific sponsors for that event because it of course comes with a little bit of financial risk for us, but we also feel like it is really important to make sure that what we do is accessible to the entire community.
8:02So those are a couple fun things that are coming up next.
8:04And then if you have time to read perspective, Lorone Outlaw has been with our company for a couple of years, and it's been really fun watching her grow in her um professionalism and her leadership.
8:14And so it's just a little bit of story from her.
8:17So that's uh just a little bit of a rundown of some level stuff that happens.
8:21Um you asked about season 75.
8:24I'll just give you a real quick peek about what we've got to coming up with that.
8:27Um, of course, 75 years is a huge milestone.
8:31It's a milestone that a lot of nonprofits don't experience, and it's certainly a milestone that a lot of theaters don't experience.
8:37Um, so we're gonna do everything we can to make fanfare, uh, have parties, um, make it something that the whole community wants to celebrate, and that we can celebrate all the ways the community has helped that because of course an organization like ours didn't get there without many, many people, millions of people supporting this organization.
8:56Um, so September 18th is going to be our opening of that season.
9:00Um, we'll open with Mean Girls.
9:02We'll have a great big party before the show, and I hope you could all attend.
9:05We would love to have our city representatives there and um be able to just party with you guys and then also see a great show.
9:13So that's gonna be fun.
9:14Mean girls, after that is Frankenstein, um, a really great adaptation.
9:19We're seeing a lot of interest in the classics reenergize for the stage.
9:22So hopefully that will make the most of that.
9:24Um, we've got a Christmas story, the musical.
9:26So many people will remember the film fondly, and this is a really fun way to introduce it to a new generation.
9:31Um, and then we've got um Come From Away, which if you're not familiar with that show, it is such a good play.
9:40Um, it is about it centers around the events of September 11th of 9-11.
9:45Um, but it is this story of community coming together.
9:49It's about all of these planes that were diverted to a small town in Newfoundland uh Canada.
10:00And it is just so interesting and beautiful and inspiring the way that community came together to help all of these people that didn't have anywhere to go and needed to have community for a moment.
10:05So very inspiring story with that one.
10:07Noise is off, very funny play.
10:09We haven't done it for four years, but it is a laugh riot.
10:12Please come to see that one.
10:13You won't be disput disappointed.
10:15And then we'll close the season with Luna's Rabla.
10:17So which is an awesome play that we just can't just come just come through.
10:23It's gonna be a good one.
10:25So yeah, there's some things to look forward to for all of you.
10:29Are you able to uh I hate to say reuse uh a lot of the success of Rhema's uh from years ago?
10:39Um do you mean like the good yeah?
10:44Well, I definitely know that um we have costume items, right?
10:48So I think that a lot of those resources uh will probably resurface, right?
10:54Um usually sets are recycled so quickly.
10:57So I doubt that there will be the same sort of scenic structures that you saw on the last show, because chances are we cut that up and turned it into three different things since then.
11:05Um but I do hope that there are some people who might come back and were on the play before and might audition again, and and maybe they're in a different part or maybe the same part.
11:15So I suspect there'll be some community interest in that way too.
11:18So definitely some good stories.
11:21I saw that uh I think it was in New York, it might have been Boston, and then I thought and then I heard it was going to be on the Rochester stage.
11:28Oh, I thought it's a wow, it's a huge chunk.
11:33And my expectations were low.
11:36I'm so pleasantly awesome.
11:41Yeah, that's in Rochester.
11:45Well, I hope we can beat that this year.
11:48Remember the goal now.
11:50Yeah, have you walk out and say the same.
11:53And I'm kind of sick of the Christmas story, except I saw the musical two years ago in Arizona.
11:59And it rekindled entrance.
12:04I will enjoy that one too.
12:05I like that sound bite.
12:09Saw that plain one in Minneapolis somewhere.
12:15I think it's like a little place.
12:17Everywhere we're and I think the three of us on the outside of the agency oversight committee are all season ticket holders.
12:25So they're appreciate that.
12:28Yeah, we appreciate that.
12:32I just also wanted to highlight uh the fact that you have an accessible night where you do uh language translation, uh, audio description.
12:43Audio description, yes.
12:45And I've seen many community members at those Thursday performances and just really grateful for that as a basis to then expand to economic access and other ways that the community is accessing theater.
12:57Um I was curious about like what changes grant support is having.
13:02Are you seeing negative impacts in that space?
13:05Yeah, um, we are a little bit.
13:08Um, you know, I sort of touch wood because I'm always optimistic, but uh we are seeing impact.
13:14So um most notably Minnesota uh State Arts Board, for instance.
13:20We do get an annual grant.
13:22We just renewed for our they they ask you to um do your big submission four years.
13:27So we just did that big submission, and then they adjust, you know, we will be awarded whatever amount, but they do adjust annually.
13:36Um, and that is based off of how much they're getting, you know.
13:41And so um, although Minnesota has a really and you know, I I can't speak how grateful I am with the legacy amendment and what this the state has for arts funding is really huge.
13:53There is still a trickle-down effect because there is funding that comes from the national level.
13:57And so as that money starts to get tighter, um, so that so does what happens to these nonprofits.
14:06So last year, I think if I'm remembering correctly, the state arts board our what we expected to be awarded was um around 30,000.
14:15And state arts board um let us know that there was like an eight million dollar deficit that they had to change that was so everybody's amount went down.
14:25Ours went down to like 21 or 24, somewhere in that range.
14:29So it was, you know, we were budgeting for something, and that we did have to adjust to that.
14:34So there is um, yeah, so there is that's happening.
14:38And then we're also hearing that from some other places, of course, CMAC, which does a great job supporting our area.
14:46Um there's they still have a hearty um, you know, application process.
14:51And I and again, I'm not optimistic that we will get what we request, but as their funding depletes, that means that that's fewer grants they can give out.
15:00So you never know if it's going to be our term, you know.
15:03Um, and then there's other even I'm, you know, hearing from like the male community contributions that they're their pot kind of shrank this year as well.
15:12So you just don't you just don't know.
15:15I think that every I think that the kind of rising economic costs is kind of affecting everyone.
15:20And um, and it's definitely something that nonprofits are talking about, and I'm hearing that from local artists as well that there's concern because of course those resources are smaller for them as well.
15:30I wouldn't have expected you to reviewer pocket, but it is a note in the Rochester Arts Center item as well.
15:36So I'm just curious how that's affecting.
15:39Do you are you experiencing a similar tight thing in the philanthropy space, or do you see that as an opportunity to offset?
15:47Well, I think I think partly because it has been a relatively unnurtured part tier for our organization, it it feels like growth right now.
16:00But I will say that from my experiences and other theaters and seeing the numbers of the uh people who come through our doors and are affected by our programming, I am surprised by how hard it has been to just get donations.
16:18Um, and I think that that is I think it's you know, the same reasons that everybody else is struggling.
16:25Um, so any growth that I we can get right now, I'm feeling very, you know, celebratory about.
16:31Um, but I do hope that as you know, maybe the economy stabilizes, and I do hope it will, um, that perhaps that will become even I think more profound of growth because it feels like it should be for as as many people are as are as involved at our organization.
16:51Uh everybody uh knows of the hard times that City Theater went through what 10, 12 years ago with a split and the artistic community.
17:03Do you think we have completely grown past that now?
17:08I I think that those ripples still remain.
17:12And um I think it very much so helps that there are new people involved, right?
17:18Um I can be very empathetic when I hear stories of that.
17:23And I think a lot for a lot of people it has.
17:26Um, you know, but but I but the wounds I think are still there.
17:31Okay, you know, and I think that that's something that our organization is really um thought of.
17:38Um, and I think part of the healing is those community partnerships and making sure that we are making our organization welcoming to other entities.
17:49You know, I know one of the things that happened of that is there were other community theaters that grew out of that because we do right.
17:56And so, you know, for instance, this summer we're going to be hosting Calia P Theater to be doing American Idiot in our space in our black box.
18:03We're really excited about that.
18:04Um, but making sure that those organizations know that we it's we're proud to have them, you know, partner with us in that way.
18:12And um it's really it's it's painful that that had to, you know, that formation of that group came out of that, but I also think that it's there's something beautiful about that.
18:23And now we have more opportunity and there's more art for people to experience.
18:28So um, so I think in both good ways and bad ways.
18:31I think there are people who are still hurting from that, but I think there are people who have grown from that.
18:36And and now we have stronger relationships and and a stronger art scene because of it.
18:43So as the leader of uh our local civic theater, and you may be a part of uh the effort of which I'm about to speak, um, that there is some hope that we would uh plant a 2500 uh seat auditorium or performance center here in town somewhere.
19:04How would that affect the civic theater?
19:06What what what is uh your position on that?
19:09Well, there's really it's sort of hard to know exactly how it would affect us.
19:14Um I am really I will say that I I am really compassionate and and happy that there is a possibility that some like an entity like the Symphony would have a space that's designed for their needs, right?
19:27I get that auditorially designed, you know, buildings are rare.
19:34And I see that there's a gap there.
19:36Um but I have I've I've run enough businesses that I am concerned about how they will make their ends meet.
19:46And when I think about those options, such as bringing in like Broadway shows, I think, okay, that's gonna have an effect on us.
19:55Um, you know, it will potentially, you know, it will restrict some rights that we have.
20:00Again, these are it's not bad.
20:02It's just these are some realities.
20:03It will potentially restrict rights that we are we have because if a tour is coming within a certain radius to us, that means that we can't get the rights to that show.
20:12So that's one thing that would be a possibility.
20:15Um I also, you know, we have kind of created a recent identity as being the sort of where you get your big Broadway, you know, experience in town.
20:26So I suspect that might have to change our game plan a little bit.
20:29If that's where people are now planning to get their big Broadway experience, I think that that is that will have an effect on us.
20:36I also I, you know, I think there's so much to be defined about that.
20:40It also may not be that that's the space that's built for Broadway touring.
20:43So that might not be the reality.
20:45So I think there's just I have a lot of questions about it.
20:48Um, you know, I will say that we're an organization that has empty seats regularly.
20:53So I do think like, okay, what's it gonna do when there's another 2,500 seats in in town and get a night?
21:00But I think it's it's all possible.
21:03And you know, it's I do believe that we have to strive together, right?
21:11You you have a lot of energy and a lot of optimism.
21:14So the theater is on the trajectory that uh you would hope it to be in your second year.
21:20Uh well, I'm going into my second year, yes.
21:22I just finished my first.
21:23Yeah, so my second year, yeah.
21:27I I am optimistic for the organization.
21:29I think that it has a lot of potential for growth.
21:31I think that um it being the 75th anniversary is a really you know great way to get people excited about what we have built together as a community.
21:42And um, so I'm grateful to be a part of it.
21:47I really appreciate you coming in today.
21:49And I know we've talked about this opportunity to hear more about the organizations as part of the oversight process, not just looking at financials.
21:56My my last question was about relationship with experience round customer, the one roof uh relationship.
22:02How is that working for you?
22:04And I know you also mentioned uh theater companies like Glyphe coming in.
22:08What would you say is your uh capacity that you're reaching for community partners or others?
22:14Is that working well?
22:15Are you having to turn people away or yeah?
22:18Um I we are kind of, I would say almost at capacity, but we still squeeze people in.
22:26Um it sort of depends on the needs of the organization for community partners.
22:30Theaters have a longer need than like dance companies, you know, dance companies generally their load-in is is a lot easier um than like a theater company in theater.
22:41I get it because we produce theater.
22:43Theater takes time and and space to be able to kind of get a show ready to mount.
22:48So um so for theater companies, it is we still have some weekends that we could fit people in, but but for theater companies, it is it's tighter and it's a little bit harder.
23:01So yeah, we might be kind of edging towards that.
23:05Um it's it gets a little, you know, tough sometimes.
23:08People want the same weekend, and we have to kind of figure out who can move and whatnot.
23:12So you know, navigating that is not always easy.
23:15So as far as the one roof policy, I I think um, you know, it's uh we're really grateful for the way that we have that support.
23:24Um being able to free up so much of our resource that what would be part of our resource to to deal with our mission instead of worrying about who's cleaning toilets and when, you know, is huge.
23:38Um and of course, uh, I think that it's gotten, you know, I've I only have one year, but I really have been really excited by the way that this last year has gone.
23:50Um, I know that there's a new person coming in to be working at um, you know, managing the Mino Civic Center.
23:57And so I'm excited to see that new person, but I was certainly really excited with my relationship with Craig, I think was really healthy.
24:04Um, so yeah, I I don't have too many complaints.
24:08Um, Eric, do you have anything that you want to say about you know that support from one roof policy?
24:14Yeah, I Jacqueline, I think you're spot on.
24:17Um it's gotten better.
24:18I'd say the first year, two years were that time's bumpy, uh, but I think it's I think it has uh gotten much better.
24:25Um and yeah, I other than other than some of the true you all are aware of some of the roof issues that we had with the repair about uh probably logger a year ago, that was a little bit bumpy, not necessarily the one roof's fault.
24:40Um it was just sort of a bad set of circumstances, but otherwise, yeah, for my side, everything's been pretty been pretty smooth.
24:50I guess we're talking about legislative priorities um this afternoon.
25:00I'm glad to hear that you got some legislative work to try to address the ticket, yeah, third-party seller and just buy if there are any ways that we can be collaborative partners writing letters of work.
25:07I'm sure that we could work out a process too, because we obviously want specific theater in that space to be successful.
25:13And yeah, it does seem like a big technology challenge that better regulation could improve.
25:19I'll keep that in mind, and as I find out more from uh Minnesota Central Arts and MN Creative, I'll definitely reach out to you guys and share that.
25:29An engaging discussion.
25:31Yes, it was part of our absolute makes it more energetic and fun.
25:38Kick you off with a little energy, guys.
25:40That's exactly right.
25:42It's more than numbers, right?
25:46And you can stay as long as you like.
25:48I'm not sure why in life, but you can't do that.
25:53Okay, I I think I will follow here with that invite, but I do really appreciate you guys inviting me in and yeah, I'm happy to be a part of it.
26:02Yeah, thanks so much.
26:08We will move back to uh 3B for 125.
26:15Miller, for indicating that all the members were were uh members of uh I'm also a member in 125 live.
26:26Yep, it looks like the current ratio is uh stable and strong as usual in the 7.7 range, and then the operating ratio too is stable as well, just dipping below the one.
26:38There's really nothing additional to contribute.
26:40Uh the ball is been around the 1.01 and slightly below and slightly above at times too.
26:46So again, um their bank account looks pretty strong with 1.38 million dollars, and all their financials to me looked uh relatively strong.
26:56So all the way up at 2019, we're gonna see what concern.
27:05It's I guess nice to see that they have no financial narrative notes.
27:11Business is you could go on to the organization, right?
27:15We will move on then to the history center.
27:21Uh their current ratio is still in the green, 5.49, and then the operating ratio did dip down uh below the one, so they're at 0.64.
27:30Uh they haven't been there since I think the second quarter of 2024, so it's been a little while.
27:35Uh one of the things that we didn't want to know too is what they stated in their financial narrative.
27:41Um there's a deadline for a fundraiser that they have, and that's June 30th of 2026.
27:46So at the end of this month.
27:47Um, and that hopefully we'll provide them with an additional 860,000.
27:52I think towards capital related.
27:53So looks like there's a plan in place or um something in the works too.
27:58I'm not gonna read everything verbatim after.
28:00So uh that is one of the groups as well.
28:03And we can talk about the next steps maybe at the end of the meeting real quick too, but um invite them in for the next meeting if that'll be so it looks like uh there's a plan, and I don't know that I mean I highlighted a few things.
28:17Um I don't think anything was raising serious concern, I guess at this time to be honest with you.
28:25So I guess I did have concerns, but it seems like almost all the indicators are down except for the campaign, which is raising money um and memberships, which are up.
28:39Um seems like they are devoting a lot of time to the campaign, and that uh day-to-day operations are suffering.
28:51Moving fundraisers, having fewer events.
28:56Yeah, that could just be adopted to the target.
29:05Or why they're having to do that.
29:07Um yeah, I was taking a look at their bank account too.
29:11It seemed like the bank account was stronger than it was in 2025 this time last year, which I attribute to capital.
29:20I will note that they did not submit their quarter one and quarter two um contribution invoices yet.
29:27Um they did have a new staff member and did not realize that that needed to be submitted.
29:31So they have not received funding for those two quarters yet.
29:35So that could be the indication on here.
29:39So I did process those for payment and they should be getting those soon.
29:47Any other questions about the history center?
29:50Okay, but I I appreciate the extensive financial narrative, which I think does the right context although it would be nice to have them at a future meeting to answer some questions, but it does read from this narrative that they are aware of some challenges and are actively making plans to include something.
30:00But I appreciate the extensive financial narrative, which I think does the right context although it would be nice to have them at a future meeting to answer some questions, but it does read from this narrative that they are aware of some challenges and are actively making plans to move to the human rights commission, please.
30:18Yeah, and I believe the human rights commission they're still different contributions.
30:26Yeah, just the distribution.
30:28Provided not to start.
30:31Okay, we'll move on to 3D.
30:36Yeah, and I believe, I don't know if this was the first time, but it looks like uh ready and then uh SBDC combined.
30:45Uh so very strong 104.53 for the current ratio, and then up in the green at the 1.93.
30:54And so they talk about all payables being current and um the amount of money 26,000 not being received in 26 investors revenue in March, and then 36,000 was received uh from the mayor plan of community engagement EDA.
31:15And they gave their independent uh accountants report in there as well.
31:25And again, they're what I'm looking at too.
31:27Cash is about steady.
31:28I mean, it's slightly higher than what it was in 2025 as well.
31:32Uh total assets are up slightly.
31:36Total liabilities are down slightly.
31:40Um obviously the assets are yeah, the net assets and uh would be up.
31:48So we think it's like very strong performance on their part.
31:53Yeah, everything that I was for the most part are seems to continue to a strong performance stuff.
32:00Any questions about ready?
32:06Um is the SB Small business value center, right?
32:16Same with patchments, but I do have a question.
32:18It was my understanding that SBA funding was frozen for all SPDCs of the state, and it was a challenge, but I would wonder if Mark has any updates.
32:29Maybe it's a follow-up question.
32:34They did also mention that they were instructed that they only needed to submit their metric yearly rather than quarterly.
32:42So it's what it said.
32:43So I part of that with Mark and I talked that I was uh we had discussion at our past meeting that I would go and meet with him and talk about the quality of the reports, what it was providing that he is manually preparing, was manually preparing each of those by running a series of queries of tasting in both it was quite difficult for us to parse that anyway.
33:05And so we we talked about it and I I shared some follow-up with Alison moving out and or reporting on the impact as a better place to check in and see what impact they're having in the community and hopefully have a better year-long data set rather than a quarter, which can be so hard for us to interpret.
33:25Yeah, so that would be my recommendation.
33:30I just made note of it in here because I did not know that, so I just wanted to know that's fine.
33:36Yeah, I sent an email and had report funds from Allison then.
33:41I guess with Alison and Mark, so sorry that it didn't make it back.
33:47And he is very motivated to come and share information with us, and I think does that regularly the question was whether that would be more appropriate for our uh oversight agent outside agency oversight or to the study session presentation or to the council as a whole.
34:05Yeah, I I think that's uh mysterious enough.
34:09I think the whole council would enjoy hearing.
34:12That was my recommendation, and I think it would be rather of working uh with our schedule of council meetings and study sessions to find the right avenue to type that anything else on small business.
34:30We will go to our neighbors.
34:38Um looks like they continue to falter a little bit or fall a little bit more of the current ratio is now at a 0.84, which is dipped from the 0.96, and they used to be more in the green, as you can see too.
34:51Uh same with the current operating ratio to a point zero one.
34:54I think that's uh another all-time low.
35:01But it looks like when you're taking a look at their financials too, they do have uh credit card debt and debt on there as well.
35:09And I think they were focusing on um the gap position, the cash position, and trying to manage that um with the delay payroll and stuff.
35:19So I think there's there are some financial issues that they are taking a look at.
35:25Um and then it probably got to the point where and we did invite them in, they did not respond.
35:32So again, we can talk about after this, uh, take another stab at that or see what they have to say because it's kind of getting to that level.
35:40Um looks like they have a bit of a plan in place, I think, you know, but uh as they say in their the end of their narrative and stuff too on how to address their $3,400 and credit card issue and stuff too, but I'm not sure if it's gonna be enough.
35:56Uh well, changing one program chalk the block make enough of a difference to change the trajectory.
36:05And we've we've been watching them overspending.
36:09Right, and that's what you can see as you go through their financials, and then they last time they were asking to get paid more in advance before the meeting type of thing, too.
36:19So and even with the second um disbursement, they were asking to get paid right away.
36:28Um, because chalk on the black, they had to pay their vendors, so they needed the funding banking from us to pay the vendors.
36:39So they talk about city funding gaps, but they know when the city's going to correct.
36:45I mean, it's not a gap in the way of uh we're defaulting on payments.
36:52Well, you know, and it's one thing I think they have a cash flow problem.
36:54It's another thing to be and credit card interest.
36:57Yeah, you know, what's the plan?
36:59Yeah, how are you gonna get out from underneath this?
37:01They're making an additional revenue so you can eat that off.
37:04So delayed payrolls.
37:06I mean, that's that's hard on staff.
37:10I'm gonna hang around for that.
37:12I think it's very small staff.
37:15I think this is just a unique organization that has much more like compared with the Civic's theater and the art center or others, like a function that most cities would do internally.
37:27And I think we are experiencing the challenge, and probably is a question for us to have over multiple budget cycles of as the city grows, and we talk about programming and neighborhood programming and neighborhood supports how long and what is the right model moving forward.
37:46Yeah, this model I think has served okay.
37:55It feels unsustainable, yeah.
37:58And I think as the city grows and there's more robust community programming.
38:03There's a uh in my mind the question for the whole council and for our budget discussions of how might we set up neighborhoods for success for support programs, and what is the right model?
38:16But I I'm concerned about this, and I I think I appreciate the narrative the honesty of some of these real financial challenges.
38:26I think it's unfortunate that uh program has been very supportive to the Slater Park neighborhood and call conduction with riverside central school would be just converted or downscale to a kit.
38:43It feels like it's not providing the same impact.
38:48But I would also suspect that that's a quite expensive thing to put on since they're hiring artists who do sidewalk pieces.
39:03Um we have uh real concerns.
39:06And I think with us coming up to the budget discussions uh later this summer, I think either are the areas that are prior to our prior support access to inclusive decision making, which is gonna be coming together.
39:25Anything more on our neighbors.
39:31Then we shall go to the art center.
39:41So they did dip a little bit too with the current ratio.
39:44I think they almost um kind of talked about it, or we did talk about it a little bit last time too.
39:49Then the operating ratio did dip below one.
39:51Um so that's the first memory can see on there too that that has happened as well.
40:00Uh they did talk about um half the revenue recorded for 30,000 uh was deferred and um they had another note in there too for fiscal year 27.
40:09Um but the summer camp program uh will occur next fiscal year.
40:16So probably a few questions, I guess, in there too, some that they're moving and adjusting as we talked about a few of the others at the same time.
40:29So now if they had continued their practice of booking all our C Cap revenue in the in the year we proceed, but right program year what impact that would have had on the uh ratio operating to that ratio.
40:46I think just the the sheer number was 30,000, then how did that sure?
40:51So if they have bumped all that revenue current period.
40:55You know, looking uh further in the uh documents, um even with the 30,000 expenses with expenses uh and revenue being down, we're down 90,000 in 2025.
41:13So outside of the 30, there'd be another 60.
41:17Some of that would probably be uh the grants at the state level or national level.
41:26Yeah, it looks like admissions were were down that uh marked and like I said programming a couple months.
41:31Like another organization that at some point as we're scading uh in-person visits presentations would be a good one, right?
41:40Especially if it being in a city facility, understanding uh risks, the strategic plan shows and some talk off and on about them moving out of that building too.
41:54Yeah, I mentioned that last time, yeah.
41:55Partnerships, so right.
41:59We'd be interested, but it'd be interesting to hear from so many of them, and we only meet four times a year.
42:04Well, now that we get to the calendar, yeah.
42:06Yeah, start bringing it.
42:08So we can talk more about that.
42:09But yeah, this one, uh the downward trajectory on this one, I think is is concerning.
42:14Starting to raise concerns, yeah.
42:18Anything more on Arts Center.
42:22Yeah, I'll just add uh the Rochester Arts Center.
42:27We have covered I we go to uh J, the downtown alliance.
42:38Yeah, overall, I thought they were pretty strong.
42:40Uh the current ratio of 12.58, as you can see, and then the operating ratio back up in the green, that one point two.
42:48Um the year good financial health, obviously, realising uh total increase, profit loss over last year.
42:57Uh the Mayo grant, obviously it helped them 25.
43:02Let's see, those funds will be used in 2026.
43:04So yeah, as I was going through here.
43:18But I think overall they were appeared to be financial healthy.
43:25Stable, probably just as a little.
43:29And even apart from stability, of course, I run into some of those people frequently, and there just seems to be an energy around RDA that uh I think is catching on.
43:42I feel like some of that is due to the effective factor being a downtown business and building owner.
43:50And it's clear that in that that's been a good bit for an advocate for the downtown and then aligns.
44:00I don't have any other questions, but I I have noticed to some other energy building.
44:06And I think that that has been a counterbalance to sort of the challenges of construction.
44:17And finally, the youth council simple report.
44:22Yeah, I really don't have much more to report other than they have uh obviously a very high operating reliance ratio.
44:30See, there's a one each right there.
44:47Obviously, kind of financial statements really good in the same way that the other ones do.
44:52We get some financials, but very good.
45:00We'll go to uh and I I think the way this works too.
45:02I think the uh the budget is for 1540 contribute uh to the county, but I think it would be um 9601.
45:10I think is what the invoice is gonna be for us because they're gonna take some out to um help contribute to uh a student traveling stuff, so we're not just gonna get that note.
45:30So we will move to uh three L.
45:34That is an action requesting approval.
45:39I will move to approve the second quarter 2026 second quarter dispersion of funds for the L say agencies as defined in the item.
45:48I will second that as their discussion.
45:55Uh outside of this meeting, but I think for the discussion screenshot.
46:00All in favor say aye.
46:02Aye, all opposed no.
46:07Uh should we discuss about who we would like to uh receive at our next meeting, which would probably be what about September?
46:19So we did have our neighbors that weren't gonna uh I mean the history center and the Rochester Arts Center would be.
46:25Then you have downtown alliance mentioned before.
46:27I just have previous notes, but you guys and what you want to I think that yeah, I mean, as I thought about it, they presented in conjunction with others to the whole council.
46:36That's probably a better forum than the civic.
46:44And the small business would have centered to time, yeah.
46:50Well, and likely to the council as a whole.
46:52Yeah, that's correct.
46:53Yeah, don't we did talk about the council as a whole on that neighborhood this uh probably top priority our neighbors second priority and my mind would be the history center and the Prochester Art Center in the mix that could be filled in if the others aren't available at our executive.
47:12Yeah, our neighbors has a smaller margin for or flexibility than the other two.
47:19They have reserves, but all right, we can keep on that.
47:26Um, our neighbors need to go first.
47:29I don't know if you wanted to try to squeeze all three, or should we try to do two given uh time or if they all happen to uh say yes, then I think one or two at a time.
47:38I think we do have a but we really took liberties today and talked to uh Sydney Peter for a long time.
47:47This is the most fun discussion I've had in four years on this.
47:52Oversight could be fine.
47:59Is there a motion to adjourn?
48:02I second all in favor say aye.
48:06We will see you shortly.
48:11Or three more big items.
48:18Um that's been reached out to Michelle.
48:20I don't know who it came from, so I don't know about the content.