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Agency Oversight Committee Meeting: June 9, 2026

Boards and CommissionsTuesday, June 9, 2026
BodyRochester, Minnesota
SessionBoards and Commissions
DateTuesday, June 9, 2026
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2:04

Hello, Erica is here.

2:05

Can anybody hear me?

2:07

Your room is muted.

2:16

Can you hear us?

2:18

I can hear you now, yes.

2:20

Okay, sorry about that.

2:22

Okay.

2:23

Okay.

2:24

Yeah.

2:24

So Eric, I'm just telling them some good stuff about season 74 here.

2:29

Okay, awesome.

2:30

Awesome.

2:31

So yeah, um, really healthy sponsorships, and we're hoping that most of those will run new, and we do have some new season sponsors already lined up for season 75, which of course is a huge milestone that we're really excited to be celebrating.

2:44

Our donations have really grown in the last year.

2:47

That has been a major focus of my onboarding.

2:50

Um, I think that we have amazing community support, uh, but just that sort of day donation branch of our work has hasn't quite been as nurtured because capacity issues with our small staff.

3:04

And so that's been something I've been really trying to take a advantage of and build those relationships out.

3:10

So I do have some facts about that.

3:13

You know, we've got 20% more annual donations um compared to last season, 35% more unique donors compared to last season, and um, we have some new recurring donations, which again recurring donations are just so important to uh nonprofit helps us really plan and also stabilize for unexpected challenges, like you mentioned for Gotheri Experienced.

3:36

So yeah, we're excited to see that grow.

3:40

Um couple of things that I think are worth highlighting about season 74.

3:44

We have 25 sold-out performances, we had six school matinees that were really well attended for our theater for young audiences, um, four free engagement or enrichment events, and um then we hosted 58 community partner events at our our facility.

4:01

So when you add up our public events as well as those community partner events, it's just a lot of a lot of active days over in the building where people could come and take advantage of what we produce or what other community partners are offering.

4:13

Um yeah, some finances things.

4:17

Um our expenses are right in line with what we budgeted, which is great.

4:21

Um, ticket sales, which is a major contributor to our um our earned revenue, right?

4:27

Um, have been a little under what we had expected.

4:30

Um, I think there's a couple of things going on there.

4:32

We did have a few sell-out shows and we did have some shows that performed over expectations, and then we had a few shows that were under expectations.

4:40

So when it's all said and done, we're a little below what we wanted our earned revenue to to be.

4:45

Um, I do think there's a couple of challenges that we faced this year that have um contributed to that.

4:54

One is we have an issue with third-party sellers, which we know is an ongoing issue for the state, the nation, etc.

5:02

Um, I happen to serve on the board of Minnesota System for the Arts, and I know that that's something that they're working on as well.

5:08

Um, so I'm hoping that with new legislation that can actually help us and protect us further.

5:14

So hopefully that challenge will be addressed kind of outside of the way our organization can, but we're doing everything we can, and of course, just making sure our community and teaching our community about that so they're not being taken advantage of is a huge part of the work.

5:28

So that has been a major teller because I um issue because I think that that actually people sign on, they Google, and then they say, oh, 200 for a ticket.

5:38

I can't afford that.

5:39

Well, in actuality, it's 37.

5:41

So we'll never be more than 37.

5:44

So if they had known that, they may have bought, right?

5:46

But they stopped there.

5:47

So we've we're doing what we can to um, you know, just teach and make sure people know that we work really hard and our donors work really hard and our grants work really hard to keep those ticket sales, um, those ticket prices low.

6:01

Um, I also think that economic concerns have played a contributing factor as well to that, um, just because it's so outlandish, sort of some of the lows that we saw this year.

6:10

And I just think it's people feeling a little bit more tight and they're being a little more restricted about how they put their money out, and which is understandable.

6:17

So that as well as rising costs that affects all of us, including the nonprofit sector, um, even organizations that are putting, you know, all that money right into the stage and all that.

6:27

So that's, I think those are the kind of overarching things.

6:31

Um, some very cool things that we're excited about for season 75 that I want you all to be aware of.

6:37

We are gonna do two new programming strands that will hopefully offer some again free access to um different offerings.

6:45

We're gonna do a new play reading series, probably two titles a year.

6:49

Um, our hope is that we can center diverse community issues with those play readings, so that uh again being able to partner with different community partners, being able to um just access arts in a different way.

7:02

Um, everybody loves big Barray musicals, but there's another part that theater can do, which is build that empathy about issues that are about racial diversity or about economic stress and all of those things.

7:12

So that's our hope with that new play series.

7:14

We may series we may be able to address that.

7:16

Um, we also are going to introduce um our cabaret nights, which is just going to be a fun way to kind of introduce maybe some musical titles that you wouldn't necessarily see on our show, but on our stage, but are worth you know having some good music.

7:29

Um, and then pay what you can performances.

7:31

That is a real big initiative that I think is really important.

7:34

We want to make sure that everybody in our community feels welcome at the Rochester Civic Theater.

7:39

And so pay what you can nights will help to remove that financial barrier.

7:43

We just ask people to pay literally whatever they can to get a ticket if that's a dollar, we want them to come see the show.

7:48

So um I'm working on lining up specific sponsors for that event because it of course comes with a little bit of financial risk for us, but we also feel like it is really important to make sure that what we do is accessible to the entire community.

8:02

So those are a couple fun things that are coming up next.

8:04

And then if you have time to read perspective, Lorone Outlaw has been with our company for a couple of years, and it's been really fun watching her grow in her um professionalism and her leadership.

8:14

And so it's just a little bit of story from her.

8:17

So that's uh just a little bit of a rundown of some level stuff that happens.

8:21

Um you asked about season 75.

8:24

I'll just give you a real quick peek about what we've got to coming up with that.

8:27

Um, of course, 75 years is a huge milestone.

8:31

It's a milestone that a lot of nonprofits don't experience, and it's certainly a milestone that a lot of theaters don't experience.

8:37

Um, so we're gonna do everything we can to make fanfare, uh, have parties, um, make it something that the whole community wants to celebrate, and that we can celebrate all the ways the community has helped that because of course an organization like ours didn't get there without many, many people, millions of people supporting this organization.

8:56

Um, so September 18th is going to be our opening of that season.

9:00

Um, we'll open with Mean Girls.

9:02

We'll have a great big party before the show, and I hope you could all attend.

9:05

We would love to have our city representatives there and um be able to just party with you guys and then also see a great show.

9:13

So that's gonna be fun.

9:14

Mean girls, after that is Frankenstein, um, a really great adaptation.

9:19

We're seeing a lot of interest in the classics reenergize for the stage.

9:22

So hopefully that will make the most of that.

9:24

Um, we've got a Christmas story, the musical.

9:26

So many people will remember the film fondly, and this is a really fun way to introduce it to a new generation.

9:31

Um, and then we've got um Come From Away, which if you're not familiar with that show, it is such a good play.

9:38

It is a musical.

9:40

Um, it is about it centers around the events of September 11th of 9-11.

9:45

Um, but it is this story of community coming together.

9:49

It's about all of these planes that were diverted to a small town in Newfoundland uh Canada.

10:00

And it is just so interesting and beautiful and inspiring the way that community came together to help all of these people that didn't have anywhere to go and needed to have community for a moment.

10:05

So very inspiring story with that one.

10:07

Noise is off, very funny play.

10:09

We haven't done it for four years, but it is a laugh riot.

10:12

Please come to see that one.

10:13

You won't be disput disappointed.

10:15

And then we'll close the season with Luna's Rabla.

10:17

So which is an awesome play that we just can't just come just come through.

10:23

It's gonna be a good one.

10:24

Yeah.

10:25

So yeah, there's some things to look forward to for all of you.

10:28

Yeah.

10:28

Thank you.

10:29

Are you able to uh I hate to say reuse uh a lot of the success of Rhema's uh from years ago?

10:39

Um do you mean like the good yeah?

10:44

Well, I definitely know that um we have costume items, right?

10:48

So I think that a lot of those resources uh will probably resurface, right?

10:54

Um usually sets are recycled so quickly.

10:57

So I doubt that there will be the same sort of scenic structures that you saw on the last show, because chances are we cut that up and turned it into three different things since then.

11:05

Um but I do hope that there are some people who might come back and were on the play before and might audition again, and and maybe they're in a different part or maybe the same part.

11:15

So I suspect there'll be some community interest in that way too.

11:18

So definitely some good stories.

11:21

I saw that uh I think it was in New York, it might have been Boston, and then I thought and then I heard it was going to be on the Rochester stage.

11:28

Oh, I thought it's a wow, it's a huge chunk.

11:32

Yeah.

11:33

And my expectations were low.

11:36

I'm so pleasantly awesome.

11:39

Good.

11:40

Great works.

11:41

Yeah, that's in Rochester.

11:43

Yeah, yeah, good.

11:45

Well, I hope we can beat that this year.

11:48

Remember the goal now.

11:50

Yeah, have you walk out and say the same.

11:52

Yeah.

11:53

And I'm kind of sick of the Christmas story, except I saw the musical two years ago in Arizona.

11:59

Yeah.

11:59

And it rekindled entrance.

12:01

Oh, all right.

12:04

I will enjoy that one too.

12:05

I like that sound bite.

12:07

Yeah, that's great.

12:08

Awesome.

12:09

Saw that plain one in Minneapolis somewhere.

12:12

Yeah, yeah.

12:15

I think it's like a little place.

12:17

Everywhere we're and I think the three of us on the outside of the agency oversight committee are all season ticket holders.

12:24

Wonderful.

12:25

So they're appreciate that.

12:28

Yeah, we appreciate that.

12:30

Yeah.

12:32

I just also wanted to highlight uh the fact that you have an accessible night where you do uh language translation, uh, audio description.

12:43

Audio description, yes.

12:45

And I've seen many community members at those Thursday performances and just really grateful for that as a basis to then expand to economic access and other ways that the community is accessing theater.

12:57

Um I was curious about like what changes grant support is having.

13:02

Are you seeing negative impacts in that space?

13:05

Yeah, um, we are a little bit.

13:08

Um, you know, I sort of touch wood because I'm always optimistic, but uh we are seeing impact.

13:14

So um most notably Minnesota uh State Arts Board, for instance.

13:20

We do get an annual grant.

13:22

We just renewed for our they they ask you to um do your big submission four years.

13:27

So we just did that big submission, and then they adjust, you know, we will be awarded whatever amount, but they do adjust annually.

13:36

Um, and that is based off of how much they're getting, you know.

13:41

And so um, although Minnesota has a really and you know, I I can't speak how grateful I am with the legacy amendment and what this the state has for arts funding is really huge.

13:53

There is still a trickle-down effect because there is funding that comes from the national level.

13:57

And so as that money starts to get tighter, um, so that so does what happens to these nonprofits.

14:06

So last year, I think if I'm remembering correctly, the state arts board our what we expected to be awarded was um around 30,000.

14:15

And state arts board um let us know that there was like an eight million dollar deficit that they had to change that was so everybody's amount went down.

14:25

Ours went down to like 21 or 24, somewhere in that range.

14:29

So it was, you know, we were budgeting for something, and that we did have to adjust to that.

14:34

So there is um, yeah, so there is that's happening.

14:38

And then we're also hearing that from some other places, of course, CMAC, which does a great job supporting our area.

14:46

Um there's they still have a hearty um, you know, application process.

14:51

And I and again, I'm not optimistic that we will get what we request, but as their funding depletes, that means that that's fewer grants they can give out.

15:00

So you never know if it's going to be our term, you know.

15:03

Um, and then there's other even I'm, you know, hearing from like the male community contributions that they're their pot kind of shrank this year as well.

15:12

So you just don't you just don't know.

15:15

Yeah.

15:15

I think that every I think that the kind of rising economic costs is kind of affecting everyone.

15:20

And um, and it's definitely something that nonprofits are talking about, and I'm hearing that from local artists as well that there's concern because of course those resources are smaller for them as well.

15:30

I wouldn't have expected you to reviewer pocket, but it is a note in the Rochester Arts Center item as well.

15:36

So I'm just curious how that's affecting.

15:39

Do you are you experiencing a similar tight thing in the philanthropy space, or do you see that as an opportunity to offset?

15:46

Yeah.

15:47

Well, I think I think partly because it has been a relatively unnurtured part tier for our organization, it it feels like growth right now.

16:00

But I will say that from my experiences and other theaters and seeing the numbers of the uh people who come through our doors and are affected by our programming, I am surprised by how hard it has been to just get donations.

16:18

Um, and I think that that is I think it's you know, the same reasons that everybody else is struggling.

16:25

Um, so any growth that I we can get right now, I'm feeling very, you know, celebratory about.

16:31

Um, but I do hope that as you know, maybe the economy stabilizes, and I do hope it will, um, that perhaps that will become even I think more profound of growth because it feels like it should be for as as many people are as are as involved at our organization.

16:50

Yeah.

16:51

Uh everybody uh knows of the hard times that City Theater went through what 10, 12 years ago with a split and the artistic community.

17:03

Do you think we have completely grown past that now?

17:06

No, I wish we had.

17:08

I I think that those ripples still remain.

17:12

And um I think it very much so helps that there are new people involved, right?

17:18

Um I can be very empathetic when I hear stories of that.

17:23

And I think a lot for a lot of people it has.

17:26

Um, you know, but but I but the wounds I think are still there.

17:31

Okay, you know, and I think that that's something that our organization is really um thought of.

17:38

Um, and I think part of the healing is those community partnerships and making sure that we are making our organization welcoming to other entities.

17:49

You know, I know one of the things that happened of that is there were other community theaters that grew out of that because we do right.

17:56

And so, you know, for instance, this summer we're going to be hosting Calia P Theater to be doing American Idiot in our space in our black box.

18:03

We're really excited about that.

18:04

Um, but making sure that those organizations know that we it's we're proud to have them, you know, partner with us in that way.

18:12

And um it's really it's it's painful that that had to, you know, that formation of that group came out of that, but I also think that it's there's something beautiful about that.

18:23

And now we have more opportunity and there's more art for people to experience.

18:28

So um, so I think in both good ways and bad ways.

18:31

I think there are people who are still hurting from that, but I think there are people who have grown from that.

18:36

And and now we have stronger relationships and and a stronger art scene because of it.

18:43

So as the leader of uh our local civic theater, and you may be a part of uh the effort of which I'm about to speak, um, that there is some hope that we would uh plant a 2500 uh seat auditorium or performance center here in town somewhere.

19:04

How would that affect the civic theater?

19:06

What what what is uh your position on that?

19:09

Well, there's really it's sort of hard to know exactly how it would affect us.

19:14

Um I am really I will say that I I am really compassionate and and happy that there is a possibility that some like an entity like the Symphony would have a space that's designed for their needs, right?

19:27

I get that auditorially designed, you know, buildings are rare.

19:34

And I see that there's a gap there.

19:36

Um but I have I've I've run enough businesses that I am concerned about how they will make their ends meet.

19:46

And when I think about those options, such as bringing in like Broadway shows, I think, okay, that's gonna have an effect on us.

19:55

Um, you know, it will potentially, you know, it will restrict some rights that we have.

20:00

Again, these are it's not bad.

20:02

It's just these are some realities.

20:03

It will potentially restrict rights that we are we have because if a tour is coming within a certain radius to us, that means that we can't get the rights to that show.

20:12

Right.

20:12

So that's one thing that would be a possibility.

20:15

Um I also, you know, we have kind of created a recent identity as being the sort of where you get your big Broadway, you know, experience in town.

20:26

So I suspect that might have to change our game plan a little bit.

20:29

If that's where people are now planning to get their big Broadway experience, I think that that is that will have an effect on us.

20:36

I also I, you know, I think there's so much to be defined about that.

20:40

It also may not be that that's the space that's built for Broadway touring.

20:43

So that might not be the reality.

20:45

So I think there's just I have a lot of questions about it.

20:48

Um, you know, I will say that we're an organization that has empty seats regularly.

20:53

So I do think like, okay, what's it gonna do when there's another 2,500 seats in in town and get a night?

21:00

But I think it's it's all possible.

21:03

And you know, it's I do believe that we have to strive together, right?

21:09

So yeah.

21:11

You you have a lot of energy and a lot of optimism.

21:14

So the theater is on the trajectory that uh you would hope it to be in your second year.

21:20

Uh well, I'm going into my second year, yes.

21:22

I just finished my first.

21:23

Yeah, so my second year, yeah.

21:25

Yeah.

21:26

Yeah, I do.

21:27

I I am optimistic for the organization.

21:29

I think that it has a lot of potential for growth.

21:31

I think that um it being the 75th anniversary is a really you know great way to get people excited about what we have built together as a community.

21:42

And um, so I'm grateful to be a part of it.

21:47

I really appreciate you coming in today.

21:49

And I know we've talked about this opportunity to hear more about the organizations as part of the oversight process, not just looking at financials.

21:56

My my last question was about relationship with experience round customer, the one roof uh relationship.

22:02

How is that working for you?

22:04

And I know you also mentioned uh theater companies like Glyphe coming in.

22:08

What would you say is your uh capacity that you're reaching for community partners or others?

22:13

Yeah.

22:14

Is that working well?

22:15

Are you having to turn people away or yeah?

22:18

Um I we are kind of, I would say almost at capacity, but we still squeeze people in.

22:26

Um it sort of depends on the needs of the organization for community partners.

22:30

Theaters have a longer need than like dance companies, you know, dance companies generally their load-in is is a lot easier um than like a theater company in theater.

22:41

I get it because we produce theater.

22:43

Theater takes time and and space to be able to kind of get a show ready to mount.

22:48

So um so for theater companies, it is we still have some weekends that we could fit people in, but but for theater companies, it is it's tighter and it's a little bit harder.

23:00

Yeah.

23:01

So yeah, we might be kind of edging towards that.

23:05

Um it's it gets a little, you know, tough sometimes.

23:08

People want the same weekend, and we have to kind of figure out who can move and whatnot.

23:12

So you know, navigating that is not always easy.

23:15

So as far as the one roof policy, I I think um, you know, it's uh we're really grateful for the way that we have that support.

23:24

Um being able to free up so much of our resource that what would be part of our resource to to deal with our mission instead of worrying about who's cleaning toilets and when, you know, is huge.

23:38

Um and of course, uh, I think that it's gotten, you know, I've I only have one year, but I really have been really excited by the way that this last year has gone.

23:50

Um, I know that there's a new person coming in to be working at um, you know, managing the Mino Civic Center.

23:57

And so I'm excited to see that new person, but I was certainly really excited with my relationship with Craig, I think was really healthy.

24:04

Um, so yeah, I I don't have too many complaints.

24:08

Um, Eric, do you have anything that you want to say about you know that support from one roof policy?

24:14

Sure.

24:14

Yeah, I Jacqueline, I think you're spot on.

24:17

Um it's gotten better.

24:18

I'd say the first year, two years were that time's bumpy, uh, but I think it's I think it has uh gotten much better.

24:25

Um and yeah, I other than other than some of the true you all are aware of some of the roof issues that we had with the repair about uh probably logger a year ago, that was a little bit bumpy, not necessarily the one roof's fault.

24:40

Um it was just sort of a bad set of circumstances, but otherwise, yeah, for my side, everything's been pretty been pretty smooth.

24:50

I guess we're talking about legislative priorities um this afternoon.

25:00

I'm glad to hear that you got some legislative work to try to address the ticket, yeah, third-party seller and just buy if there are any ways that we can be collaborative partners writing letters of work.

25:07

I'm sure that we could work out a process too, because we obviously want specific theater in that space to be successful.

25:13

And yeah, it does seem like a big technology challenge that better regulation could improve.

25:19

Wonderful.

25:19

I'll keep that in mind, and as I find out more from uh Minnesota Central Arts and MN Creative, I'll definitely reach out to you guys and share that.

25:28

Yeah, thank you.

25:29

An engaging discussion.

25:31

Yes, it was part of our absolute makes it more energetic and fun.

25:36

That's wonderful.

25:38

Kick you off with a little energy, guys.

25:40

That's exactly right.

25:42

It's more than numbers, right?

25:44

Yes, it is.

25:44

Thank you.

25:45

Yeah, thank you.

25:46

And you can stay as long as you like.

25:47

Okay.

25:48

I'm not sure why in life, but you can't do that.

25:53

Okay, I I think I will follow here with that invite, but I do really appreciate you guys inviting me in and yeah, I'm happy to be a part of it.

26:02

Yeah, thanks so much.

26:03

Thank you, Eric.

26:05

Thank you.

26:06

Thank you, Eric.

26:08

We will move back to uh 3B for 125.

26:14

Thank you, Mr.

26:15

Miller, for indicating that all the members were were uh members of uh I'm also a member in 125 live.

26:24

Take it away, Mr.

26:25

Anderson.

26:26

Yep, it looks like the current ratio is uh stable and strong as usual in the 7.7 range, and then the operating ratio too is stable as well, just dipping below the one.

26:36

So you're at 0.97.

26:38

There's really nothing additional to contribute.

26:40

Uh the ball is been around the 1.01 and slightly below and slightly above at times too.

26:46

So again, um their bank account looks pretty strong with 1.38 million dollars, and all their financials to me looked uh relatively strong.

26:56

So all the way up at 2019, we're gonna see what concern.

27:05

It's I guess nice to see that they have no financial narrative notes.

27:11

Business is you could go on to the organization, right?

27:13

Yeah.

27:15

We will move on then to the history center.

27:21

Uh their current ratio is still in the green, 5.49, and then the operating ratio did dip down uh below the one, so they're at 0.64.

27:30

Uh they haven't been there since I think the second quarter of 2024, so it's been a little while.

27:35

Uh one of the things that we didn't want to know too is what they stated in their financial narrative.

27:41

Um there's a deadline for a fundraiser that they have, and that's June 30th of 2026.

27:46

So at the end of this month.

27:47

Um, and that hopefully we'll provide them with an additional 860,000.

27:52

I think towards capital related.

27:53

So looks like there's a plan in place or um something in the works too.

27:58

I'm not gonna read everything verbatim after.

28:00

So uh that is one of the groups as well.

28:03

And we can talk about the next steps maybe at the end of the meeting real quick too, but um invite them in for the next meeting if that'll be so it looks like uh there's a plan, and I don't know that I mean I highlighted a few things.

28:17

Um I don't think anything was raising serious concern, I guess at this time to be honest with you.

28:25

So I guess I did have concerns, but it seems like almost all the indicators are down except for the campaign, which is raising money um and memberships, which are up.

28:39

Um seems like they are devoting a lot of time to the campaign, and that uh day-to-day operations are suffering.

28:51

Moving fundraisers, having fewer events.

28:56

Yeah, that could just be adopted to the target.

29:05

Or why they're having to do that.

29:07

Um yeah, I was taking a look at their bank account too.

29:11

It seemed like the bank account was stronger than it was in 2025 this time last year, which I attribute to capital.

29:19

Right.

29:20

I will note that they did not submit their quarter one and quarter two um contribution invoices yet.

29:27

Um they did have a new staff member and did not realize that that needed to be submitted.

29:31

So they have not received funding for those two quarters yet.

29:35

So that could be the indication on here.

29:38

Yep.

29:39

So I did process those for payment and they should be getting those soon.

29:45

Okay.

29:47

Any other questions about the history center?

29:50

Okay, but I I appreciate the extensive financial narrative, which I think does the right context although it would be nice to have them at a future meeting to answer some questions, but it does read from this narrative that they are aware of some challenges and are actively making plans to include something.

30:00

But I appreciate the extensive financial narrative, which I think does the right context although it would be nice to have them at a future meeting to answer some questions, but it does read from this narrative that they are aware of some challenges and are actively making plans to move to the human rights commission, please.

30:18

Yeah, and I believe the human rights commission they're still different contributions.

30:26

Yeah, just the distribution.

30:28

Provided not to start.

30:31

Okay, we'll move on to 3D.

30:33

Uh ready.

30:36

Yeah, and I believe, I don't know if this was the first time, but it looks like uh ready and then uh SBDC combined.

30:45

Uh so very strong 104.53 for the current ratio, and then up in the green at the 1.93.

30:54

And so they talk about all payables being current and um the amount of money 26,000 not being received in 26 investors revenue in March, and then 36,000 was received uh from the mayor plan of community engagement EDA.

31:15

And they gave their independent uh accountants report in there as well.

31:25

And again, they're what I'm looking at too.

31:27

Cash is about steady.

31:28

I mean, it's slightly higher than what it was in 2025 as well.

31:32

Uh total assets are up slightly.

31:36

Total liabilities are down slightly.

31:40

Um obviously the assets are yeah, the net assets and uh would be up.

31:48

So we think it's like very strong performance on their part.

31:53

Yeah, everything that I was for the most part are seems to continue to a strong performance stuff.

32:00

Any questions about ready?

32:06

Um is the SB Small business value center, right?

32:13

Yes, correct.

32:14

Yes.

32:16

Same with patchments, but I do have a question.

32:18

It was my understanding that SBA funding was frozen for all SPDCs of the state, and it was a challenge, but I would wonder if Mark has any updates.

32:29

Maybe it's a follow-up question.

32:31

Okay.

32:32

Okay.

32:34

They did also mention that they were instructed that they only needed to submit their metric yearly rather than quarterly.

32:42

So it's what it said.

32:43

So I part of that with Mark and I talked that I was uh we had discussion at our past meeting that I would go and meet with him and talk about the quality of the reports, what it was providing that he is manually preparing, was manually preparing each of those by running a series of queries of tasting in both it was quite difficult for us to parse that anyway.

33:05

And so we we talked about it and I I shared some follow-up with Alison moving out and or reporting on the impact as a better place to check in and see what impact they're having in the community and hopefully have a better year-long data set rather than a quarter, which can be so hard for us to interpret.

33:25

Yeah, so that would be my recommendation.

33:29

Yeah, that's fine.

33:30

I just made note of it in here because I did not know that, so I just wanted to know that's fine.

33:36

Yeah, I sent an email and had report funds from Allison then.

33:41

I guess with Alison and Mark, so sorry that it didn't make it back.

33:47

And he is very motivated to come and share information with us, and I think does that regularly the question was whether that would be more appropriate for our uh oversight agent outside agency oversight or to the study session presentation or to the council as a whole.

34:05

Yeah, I I think that's uh mysterious enough.

34:09

I think the whole council would enjoy hearing.

34:12

That was my recommendation, and I think it would be rather of working uh with our schedule of council meetings and study sessions to find the right avenue to type that anything else on small business.

34:30

We will go to our neighbors.

34:35

Um neighbors.

34:38

Um looks like they continue to falter a little bit or fall a little bit more of the current ratio is now at a 0.84, which is dipped from the 0.96, and they used to be more in the green, as you can see too.

34:51

Uh same with the current operating ratio to a point zero one.

34:54

I think that's uh another all-time low.

35:01

But it looks like when you're taking a look at their financials too, they do have uh credit card debt and debt on there as well.

35:09

And I think they were focusing on um the gap position, the cash position, and trying to manage that um with the delay payroll and stuff.

35:19

So I think there's there are some financial issues that they are taking a look at.

35:23

Yeah.

35:24

Yeah.

35:25

Um and then it probably got to the point where and we did invite them in, they did not respond.

35:32

Did not respond.

35:32

So again, we can talk about after this, uh, take another stab at that or see what they have to say because it's kind of getting to that level.

35:40

Um looks like they have a bit of a plan in place, I think, you know, but uh as they say in their the end of their narrative and stuff too on how to address their $3,400 and credit card issue and stuff too, but I'm not sure if it's gonna be enough.

35:56

Uh well, changing one program chalk the block make enough of a difference to change the trajectory.

36:05

And we've we've been watching them overspending.

36:09

Right, and that's what you can see as you go through their financials, and then they last time they were asking to get paid more in advance before the meeting type of thing, too.

36:19

So and even with the second um disbursement, they were asking to get paid right away.

36:28

Um, because chalk on the black, they had to pay their vendors, so they needed the funding banking from us to pay the vendors.

36:39

So they talk about city funding gaps, but they know when the city's going to correct.

36:45

I mean, it's not a gap in the way of uh we're defaulting on payments.

36:52

Well, you know, and it's one thing I think they have a cash flow problem.

36:54

It's another thing to be and credit card interest.

36:57

Yeah, you know, what's the plan?

36:59

Yeah, how are you gonna get out from underneath this?

37:01

They're making an additional revenue so you can eat that off.

37:04

So delayed payrolls.

37:06

I mean, that's that's hard on staff.

37:09

Right.

37:10

I'm gonna hang around for that.

37:12

I think it's very small staff.

37:15

I think this is just a unique organization that has much more like compared with the Civic's theater and the art center or others, like a function that most cities would do internally.

37:27

And I think we are experiencing the challenge, and probably is a question for us to have over multiple budget cycles of as the city grows, and we talk about programming and neighborhood programming and neighborhood supports how long and what is the right model moving forward.

37:46

Yeah, this model I think has served okay.

37:50

Um it can survive.

37:55

It feels unsustainable, yeah.

37:57

For sure.

37:58

And I think as the city grows and there's more robust community programming.

38:03

There's a uh in my mind the question for the whole council and for our budget discussions of how might we set up neighborhoods for success for support programs, and what is the right model?

38:16

But I I'm concerned about this, and I I think I appreciate the narrative the honesty of some of these real financial challenges.

38:26

I think it's unfortunate that uh program has been very supportive to the Slater Park neighborhood and call conduction with riverside central school would be just converted or downscale to a kit.

38:43

It feels like it's not providing the same impact.

38:48

But I would also suspect that that's a quite expensive thing to put on since they're hiring artists who do sidewalk pieces.

38:57

Right.

39:03

Um we have uh real concerns.

39:06

And I think with us coming up to the budget discussions uh later this summer, I think either are the areas that are prior to our prior support access to inclusive decision making, which is gonna be coming together.

39:25

Anything more on our neighbors.

39:31

Then we shall go to the art center.

39:39

Uh yeah.

39:41

So they did dip a little bit too with the current ratio.

39:44

I think they almost um kind of talked about it, or we did talk about it a little bit last time too.

39:49

Then the operating ratio did dip below one.

39:51

Um so that's the first memory can see on there too that that has happened as well.

40:00

Uh they did talk about um half the revenue recorded for 30,000 uh was deferred and um they had another note in there too for fiscal year 27.

40:09

Um but the summer camp program uh will occur next fiscal year.

40:16

So probably a few questions, I guess, in there too, some that they're moving and adjusting as we talked about a few of the others at the same time.

40:25

Yeah, yeah.

40:29

So now if they had continued their practice of booking all our C Cap revenue in the in the year we proceed, but right program year what impact that would have had on the uh ratio operating to that ratio.

40:46

I think just the the sheer number was 30,000, then how did that sure?

40:51

So if they have bumped all that revenue current period.

40:55

You know, looking uh further in the uh documents, um even with the 30,000 expenses with expenses uh and revenue being down, we're down 90,000 in 2025.

41:13

So outside of the 30, there'd be another 60.

41:17

Some of that would probably be uh the grants at the state level or national level.

41:25

Right.

41:26

Yeah, it looks like admissions were were down that uh marked and like I said programming a couple months.

41:31

Like another organization that at some point as we're scading uh in-person visits presentations would be a good one, right?

41:40

Especially if it being in a city facility, understanding uh risks, the strategic plan shows and some talk off and on about them moving out of that building too.

41:54

Yeah, I mentioned that last time, yeah.

41:55

Partnerships, so right.

41:59

We'd be interested, but it'd be interesting to hear from so many of them, and we only meet four times a year.

42:03

So right.

42:04

Well, now that we get to the calendar, yeah.

42:06

Yeah, start bringing it.

42:08

So we can talk more about that.

42:09

But yeah, this one, uh the downward trajectory on this one, I think is is concerning.

42:14

Starting to raise concerns, yeah.

42:15

Yeah.

42:18

Anything more on Arts Center.

42:22

Yeah, I'll just add uh the Rochester Arts Center.

42:25

Okay.

42:27

We have covered I we go to uh J, the downtown alliance.

42:37

Yeah.

42:38

Yeah, overall, I thought they were pretty strong.

42:40

Uh the current ratio of 12.58, as you can see, and then the operating ratio back up in the green, that one point two.

42:48

Um the year good financial health, obviously, realising uh total increase, profit loss over last year.

42:57

Uh the Mayo grant, obviously it helped them 25.

43:02

Let's see, those funds will be used in 2026.

43:04

So yeah, as I was going through here.

43:18

But I think overall they were appeared to be financial healthy.

43:25

Stable, probably just as a little.

43:29

And even apart from stability, of course, I run into some of those people frequently, and there just seems to be an energy around RDA that uh I think is catching on.

43:42

I feel like some of that is due to the effective factor being a downtown business and building owner.

43:49

Yep.

43:50

And it's clear that in that that's been a good bit for an advocate for the downtown and then aligns.

44:00

I don't have any other questions, but I I have noticed to some other energy building.

44:06

And I think that that has been a counterbalance to sort of the challenges of construction.

44:12

I really do too.

44:16

Okay.

44:17

And finally, the youth council simple report.

44:22

Yeah, I really don't have much more to report other than they have uh obviously a very high operating reliance ratio.

44:30

See, there's a one each right there.

44:39

It's just one page.

44:41

That's it.

44:47

Obviously, kind of financial statements really good in the same way that the other ones do.

44:52

We get some financials, but very good.

45:00

We'll go to uh and I I think the way this works too.

45:02

I think the uh the budget is for 1540 contribute uh to the county, but I think it would be um 9601.

45:10

I think is what the invoice is gonna be for us because they're gonna take some out to um help contribute to uh a student traveling stuff, so we're not just gonna get that note.

45:24

Okay, sorry.

45:26

Okay.

45:30

So we will move to uh three L.

45:34

That is an action requesting approval.

45:38

We have a motion.

45:39

I will move to approve the second quarter 2026 second quarter dispersion of funds for the L say agencies as defined in the item.

45:48

I will second that as their discussion.

45:55

Uh outside of this meeting, but I think for the discussion screenshot.

46:00

All in favor say aye.

46:02

Aye, all opposed no.

46:04

That carries.

46:05

Uh other business.

46:07

Uh should we discuss about who we would like to uh receive at our next meeting, which would probably be what about September?

46:16

August.

46:17

August.

46:19

So we did have our neighbors that weren't gonna uh I mean the history center and the Rochester Arts Center would be.

46:25

Then you have downtown alliance mentioned before.

46:27

I just have previous notes, but you guys and what you want to I think that yeah, I mean, as I thought about it, they presented in conjunction with others to the whole council.

46:36

That's probably a better forum than the civic.

46:44

And the small business would have centered to time, yeah.

46:50

Well, and likely to the council as a whole.

46:52

Yeah, that's correct.

46:53

Yeah, don't we did talk about the council as a whole on that neighborhood this uh probably top priority our neighbors second priority and my mind would be the history center and the Prochester Art Center in the mix that could be filled in if the others aren't available at our executive.

47:12

Yeah, our neighbors has a smaller margin for or flexibility than the other two.

47:19

They have reserves, but all right, we can keep on that.

47:26

Um, our neighbors need to go first.

47:29

I don't know if you wanted to try to squeeze all three, or should we try to do two given uh time or if they all happen to uh say yes, then I think one or two at a time.

47:38

I think we do have a but we really took liberties today and talked to uh Sydney Peter for a long time.

47:47

This is the most fun discussion I've had in four years on this.

47:52

Oversight could be fine.

47:57

Any other business?

47:59

Is there a motion to adjourn?

48:02

I second all in favor say aye.

48:04

Aye, oppose no.

48:06

We will see you shortly.

48:11

Or three more big items.

48:17

Yes.

48:18

Okay.

48:18

Um that's been reached out to Michelle.

48:20

I don't know who it came from, so I don't know about the content.

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Summary of Proceedings

Agency Oversight Committee Meeting: June 9, 2026

The Outside Agency Oversight Committee of the Rochester City Council met on June 9, 2026, to review financial reports and hear a presentation from the Rochester Civic Theater. The committee discussed the financial health of multiple city-supported agencies, approved the second quarter 2026 disbursement for L say agencies, and prioritized future meeting invitations.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No public comments were recorded.

Discussion Items

  • Rochester Civic Theater Presentation – Erica (Executive Director, Rochester Civic Theater) reported on the just‑completed season 74, noting 25 sold‑out performances, six school matinees, four free enrichment events, and 58 community partner events. Donations increased 20% annually with 35% more unique donors. Ticket sales were slightly below expectations due to third‑party seller issues and economic concerns. For season 75 (the 75th anniversary), the theater plans to open with Mean Girls on September 18, 2026, followed by Frankenstein, A Christmas Story (musical), Come From Away, Noises Off, and Luna’s Rabla. New programming includes a play reading series, cabaret nights, and pay‑what‑you‑can performances. Erica also discussed the impact of grant funding reductions (e.g., Minnesota State Arts Board grant fell from ~$30,000 to $21,000–$24,000), lingering effects from a past community split, concerns about a proposed 2,500‑seat performance center, and the positive working relationship under the One Roof policy.
  • Financial Overview of Agencies – Mr. Anderson (committee staff) reviewed current and operating ratios for each agency:
    • Rochester Civic Theater – Current ratio ~7.7, operating ratio 0.97, bank balance $1.38 million; strong.
    • History Center – Current ratio 5.49, operating ratio dipped to 0.64 (first time since Q2 2024). A fundraiser with a June 30, 2026 deadline may provide $860,000 for capital. Committee members noted concerns about day‑to‑day operations but recognized the organization’s awareness and planning.
    • Human Rights Commission – Only a brief mention; no detailed review.
    • Ready / Small Business Development Center (SBDC) – Current ratio 104.53, operating ratio 1.93; strong performance. The committee noted that SBA funding was frozen for SBDCs statewide and discussed alternative reporting formats.
    • Neighbors – Current ratio 0.84, operating ratio 0.01 (all‑time low); credit card debt, delayed payrolls, and cash flow issues. The organization did not respond to an invitation to appear. Committee members expressed serious concern and questioned the sustainability of the model.
    • Rochester Art Center – Current ratio dipped, operating ratio below 1.0 for the first time. Admissions and revenue declined; the committee noted the downward trajectory and potential need for a future presentation.
    • Downtown Alliance – Current ratio 12.58, operating ratio 1.22; strong financial health and positive community energy.
    • Youth Council – Simple financial report; high operating reliance ratio.
  • Future Meeting Invitations – The committee discussed which agencies to invite to the next meeting (scheduled for August 2026). Prioritization: Neighbors (first), then History Center and Rochester Art Center, with the possibility of presenting to the full City Council for the Small Business Development Center.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion Approved – The committee unanimously approved the second quarter 2026 disbursement of funds for L say agencies (motion carried; all in favor).
  • Future Invitations – The committee decided to invite Neighbors, History Center, and Rochester Art Center to the August 2026 meeting, with Neighbors as the highest priority.
  • No other formal votes were taken.

[Note: The transcript contains some unclear terms (e.g., "L say agencies") and may reflect minor transcription errors. The summary is based on the best available interpretation of the discussion.]

Meeting Transcript

Hello, Erica is here. Can anybody hear me? Your room is muted. Can you hear us? I can hear you now, yes. Okay, sorry about that. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So Eric, I'm just telling them some good stuff about season 74 here. Okay, awesome. Awesome. So yeah, um, really healthy sponsorships, and we're hoping that most of those will run new, and we do have some new season sponsors already lined up for season 75, which of course is a huge milestone that we're really excited to be celebrating. Our donations have really grown in the last year. That has been a major focus of my onboarding. Um, I think that we have amazing community support, uh, but just that sort of day donation branch of our work has hasn't quite been as nurtured because capacity issues with our small staff. And so that's been something I've been really trying to take a advantage of and build those relationships out. So I do have some facts about that. You know, we've got 20% more annual donations um compared to last season, 35% more unique donors compared to last season, and um, we have some new recurring donations, which again recurring donations are just so important to uh nonprofit helps us really plan and also stabilize for unexpected challenges, like you mentioned for Gotheri Experienced. So yeah, we're excited to see that grow. Um couple of things that I think are worth highlighting about season 74. We have 25 sold-out performances, we had six school matinees that were really well attended for our theater for young audiences, um, four free engagement or enrichment events, and um then we hosted 58 community partner events at our our facility. So when you add up our public events as well as those community partner events, it's just a lot of a lot of active days over in the building where people could come and take advantage of what we produce or what other community partners are offering. Um yeah, some finances things. Um our expenses are right in line with what we budgeted, which is great. Um, ticket sales, which is a major contributor to our um our earned revenue, right? Um, have been a little under what we had expected. Um, I think there's a couple of things going on there. We did have a few sell-out shows and we did have some shows that performed over expectations, and then we had a few shows that were under expectations. So when it's all said and done, we're a little below what we wanted our earned revenue to to be. Um, I do think there's a couple of challenges that we faced this year that have um contributed to that. One is we have an issue with third-party sellers, which we know is an ongoing issue for the state, the nation, etc. Um, I happen to serve on the board of Minnesota System for the Arts, and I know that that's something that they're working on as well. Um, so I'm hoping that with new legislation that can actually help us and protect us further. So hopefully that challenge will be addressed kind of outside of the way our organization can, but we're doing everything we can, and of course, just making sure our community and teaching our community about that so they're not being taken advantage of is a huge part of the work. So that has been a major teller because I um issue because I think that that actually people sign on, they Google, and then they say, oh, 200 for a ticket. I can't afford that. Well, in actuality, it's 37. So we'll never be more than 37. So if they had known that, they may have bought, right? But they stopped there. So we've we're doing what we can to um, you know, just teach and make sure people know that we work really hard and our donors work really hard and our grants work really hard to keep those ticket sales, um, those ticket prices low. Um, I also think that economic concerns have played a contributing factor as well to that, um, just because it's so outlandish, sort of some of the lows that we saw this year. And I just think it's people feeling a little bit more tight and they're being a little more restricted about how they put their money out, and which is understandable. So that as well as rising costs that affects all of us, including the nonprofit sector, um, even organizations that are putting, you know, all that money right into the stage and all that. So that's, I think those are the kind of overarching things. Um, some very cool things that we're excited about for season 75 that I want you all to be aware of. We are gonna do two new programming strands that will hopefully offer some again free access to um different offerings. We're gonna do a new play reading series, probably two titles a year. Um, our hope is that we can center diverse community issues with those play readings, so that uh again being able to partner with different community partners, being able to um just access arts in a different way.

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