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Rochester EDA Meeting - June 16, 2025: Civic Center North Apartments TIF Approved

City CouncilMonday, June 16, 2025
BodyRochester, Minnesota
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, June 16, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:00

Seconded by councilmember Doring.

0:01

All in favor say aye.

0:02

Aye.

0:04

Any opposed, say nay.

0:07

Seeing none, we are now uh in our our Rochester Economic Development Authority.

0:13

Uh and uh call to order.

0:17

We have no organizational business.

0:19

Uh our consent agenda has our minutes from May 19th.

0:24

Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda?

0:28

So moved.

0:29

Moved by council member Keene, seconded by council member Miller.

0:32

All in favor say aye.

0:33

Aye.

0:34

Any opposed, say nay.

0:36

Motion passes, passes.

0:38

We have no public hearings.

0:39

We have one uh report and recommendations, which is the development assistance agreements relating to the Civic Center North Apartment uh project and TIFF district number 82.

0:52

And um Mr.

0:54

Josh Johnson and Brett Sun V will take this.

0:58

Yeah, thank you, Council President, Mayor, Council members.

1:00

Um we've already had some discussion and some exposure to this item tonight, so I'll I'll keep my presentation tight.

1:06

Um one of the things I want to spotlight is that in 2022, and when we went out for an RFP, uh we were really looking to engage in a development partner.

1:14

Um and some of the high level criteria that we're looking for is one, we wanted to maximize the the use of the city owned land.

1:20

Uh it's currently exempt and it's it's being used to uh park cars along our riverfront.

1:25

So we wanted to prioritize density.

1:27

We also wanted to deliver meaningful riverfront improvements.

1:30

Um a lot of our riverfront corridor there is being used for service parking lots.

1:34

So we really wanted to provide greater access and um you know beautification to our riverfront.

1:39

Uh we also wanted to provide affordable housing.

1:42

Uh this project obviously does all of those uh uh objectives.

1:47

Um we've talked about the 341 units, we've talked about the 76 units in deeper uh affordability, so 50% and 30% AMI, which is which is deeper and requires uh a higher level of subsidy.

1:59

Um but some of the other items that I really want to highlight are the seamless integration of the affordable housing with the market rate.

2:05

I can't really think of any other projects that really combined those two items as seamlessly as this project does.

2:13

It also uh by wrapping the parking garage um, you know, provides a lot of benefit to that public realm to the downtown.

2:21

Uh it really hides um, you know, that that uh critical aspect of the project.

2:27

Um but when we talk about partnership, like when we're looking at these and we're and we're meeting with Sherman, we've been meeting with them once a week for several years now.

2:36

Uh we do look at it as a public-private partnership relationship.

2:41

Um they're investing 140 million on a uh less than two acre site in our downtown.

2:46

Um that represents about a 10 to one public-private ratio.

2:50

And we look at oh, we're providing in potential TIFF increment, and in our land uh uh our land assistance.

2:58

Um with TIFF, uh, of course, it's performance-based support.

3:02

So TIFF payments are only made through new tax uh revenue generated by the project itself.

3:07

So it's really they're generating the revenue, we're deferring receiving that taxes and providing it to them over a period of time.

3:13

Um with that, the developers also suing the market risk.

3:17

So they're bearing the uncertainty around future rent growth, construction costs, interest rate, long-term site performances.

3:23

Um, and you know, we're a party to that, but like I say, they're they're bearing most of the uh risk.

3:29

Uh, in terms of the public benefit it provides, of course, uh it's affordable housing.

3:35

Um, I I think Chris Osmondson used the term uh affordable principles earlier today, and I really like that term.

3:40

You know, what what benefits the affordable portion also benefits the market reportion, and that's access to transit, link rapid link rapid transit's gonna be right there.

3:49

Uh access to civic assets like the civic center, civic theater, art center, like those are all gonna benefit those entities by having you know more than 365 people living in that proximity.

4:01

Um the other impacts uh are or the other thing that I wanted to end on is but for the market rate component, we wouldn't be able to support the affordable uh housing gap.

4:14

Uh with the change in the classification rates for affordable housing, it they generate very, very little in TIFF increment.

4:21

So about eight and a half million dollars are being allocated from the market rate unit to the affordable unit.

4:26

Without that TIFF, they would be coming any other affordable housing developer, presumably would be coming back with like an eight and a half plus million dollar request, and we'd have to find another way to fill that gap.

4:38

GSIA is is been used, but if we use GSIA to plug that gap, then it leaves other projects that we've recently approved unfunded.

4:44

Um so that's where you really need to be creative and pair these types of market rate and affordable housing projects together.

4:49

And the benefit is we're getting affordable housing, but we're also getting 265 units of other housing for people to live in.

4:56

Um so with that really brief uh explanation.

5:02

Uh questions on this item.

5:06

Uh council member King.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Affordable Housing█████████████████████████████████████████████60%
Economic Development██████████████████████████████40%
Summary of Proceedings

Rochester Economic Development Authority Meeting - June 16, 2025

The Rochester Economic Development Authority (EDA) met on June 16, 2025, at 7:00 p.m. to consider and approve development assistance agreements and tax increment financing (TIF) for the Civic Center North Apartments project. The meeting was called to order after the City Council recessed. The EDA approved the consent agenda and voted 6-1 to adopt the resolutions supporting the project, with one council member dissenting.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved the minutes of the May 19, 2025, meeting of the Rochester Economic Development Authority.

Discussion Items

  • Development Assistance Agreements for Civic Center North Apartments (TIF District No. 82-1): Josh Johnson and Brett Sven V presented the proposal. The project involves a 341-unit development on a less than two-acre city-owned riverfront site, with 76 units of affordable housing at 50% and 30% Area Median Income (AMI). The project integrates market-rate and affordable housing seamlessly, includes a wrapped parking garage, and delivers riverfront improvements. The developer, Sherman Associates, is investing $140 million, representing a roughly 10-to-1 public-private ratio. The city is providing up to $13.1 million in performance-based TIF over a 25-year district, with affordable housing committed for 30 years. The affordable portion generates only $565,000 in increment over the district's life, with $8.5 million in tax increment from market-rate units cross-subsidizing the affordable units. Without this pairing, the city would need to seek alternative subsidies (e.g., GSIA). Council members discussed the length of the TIF (25 years, consistent with updated policy), the AMI mix (14 units at 30% AMI, 36 units below 50%, and the rest at 60% AMI on average), and the overall public benefit. Councilmember Palmer expressed concern that the 25-year term and subsidy level ($13.1 million for 76 affordable units) was not a good payback for the city, noting past projects had 15-year TIFs. Councilmember Keene acknowledged the high subsidy but supported the project due to its long-term downtown investment and the quality of construction.

Key Outcomes

  • Adopted Resolution approving the Purchase and Development Assistance Agreement between the Rochester EDA and Rochester Civic Lot Limited Partnership and a Purchase and Development Assistance Agreement between the Rochester EDA and Rochester Tower LLC regarding the Civic Center North Apartments project, associated with Tax Increment Financing District No. 82-1. Vote: 6-1 (one nay). The meeting then adjourned back to the City Council.

Meeting Transcript

Seconded by councilmember Doring. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed, say nay. Seeing none, we are now uh in our our Rochester Economic Development Authority. Uh and uh call to order. We have no organizational business. Uh our consent agenda has our minutes from May 19th. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? So moved. Moved by council member Keene, seconded by council member Miller. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed, say nay. Motion passes, passes. We have no public hearings. We have one uh report and recommendations, which is the development assistance agreements relating to the Civic Center North Apartment uh project and TIFF district number 82. And um Mr. Josh Johnson and Brett Sun V will take this. Yeah, thank you, Council President, Mayor, Council members. Um we've already had some discussion and some exposure to this item tonight, so I'll I'll keep my presentation tight. Um one of the things I want to spotlight is that in 2022, and when we went out for an RFP, uh we were really looking to engage in a development partner. Um and some of the high level criteria that we're looking for is one, we wanted to maximize the the use of the city owned land. Uh it's currently exempt and it's it's being used to uh park cars along our riverfront. So we wanted to prioritize density. We also wanted to deliver meaningful riverfront improvements. Um a lot of our riverfront corridor there is being used for service parking lots. So we really wanted to provide greater access and um you know beautification to our riverfront. Uh we also wanted to provide affordable housing. Uh this project obviously does all of those uh uh objectives. Um we've talked about the 341 units, we've talked about the 76 units in deeper uh affordability, so 50% and 30% AMI, which is which is deeper and requires uh a higher level of subsidy. Um but some of the other items that I really want to highlight are the seamless integration of the affordable housing with the market rate. I can't really think of any other projects that really combined those two items as seamlessly as this project does. It also uh by wrapping the parking garage um, you know, provides a lot of benefit to that public realm to the downtown. Uh it really hides um, you know, that that uh critical aspect of the project. Um but when we talk about partnership, like when we're looking at these and we're and we're meeting with Sherman, we've been meeting with them once a week for several years now. Uh we do look at it as a public-private partnership relationship. Um they're investing 140 million on a uh less than two acre site in our downtown. Um that represents about a 10 to one public-private ratio. And we look at oh, we're providing in potential TIFF increment, and in our land uh uh our land assistance. Um with TIFF, uh, of course, it's performance-based support. So TIFF payments are only made through new tax uh revenue generated by the project itself. So it's really they're generating the revenue, we're deferring receiving that taxes and providing it to them over a period of time. Um with that, the developers also suing the market risk. So they're bearing the uncertainty around future rent growth, construction costs, interest rate, long-term site performances. Um, and you know, we're a party to that, but like I say, they're they're bearing most of the uh risk. Uh, in terms of the public benefit it provides, of course, uh it's affordable housing. Um, I I think Chris Osmondson used the term uh affordable principles earlier today, and I really like that term. You know, what what benefits the affordable portion also benefits the market reportion, and that's access to transit, link rapid link rapid transit's gonna be right there. Uh access to civic assets like the civic center, civic theater, art center, like those are all gonna benefit those entities by having you know more than 365 people living in that proximity.

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