0:06Let's call the uh August uh 13th, 2025 Planning Commission meeting to order.
0:10Would staff please do a roll call.
0:20Commissioner Sanchez.
0:32Commissioner Bustamante.
0:48Next on the agenda is citizens to be heard.
0:50If you've signed up for an item, you can choose to speak now or wait till your item is uh heard and speak at that time.
0:56Does anybody wish to speak to the commission before we begin hearing items?
1:01Okay, seeing none, we'll move on.
1:03Today we'll have two agendas.
1:04We have the consent agenda.
1:06Um everything on the consent agenda will be heard in one uniform motion.
1:11Items on the consent agenda are cases where no one in the audience is signed up to speak.
1:16Um staff um has no issues and uh no commissioner wants to pull the item.
1:24Every other item will be on individual uh the individual hearing agenda, and right now I have items 12 and 18 on individual.
1:34I know we have people signed up to speak on item 13.
1:37We will uh hear you speak before taking uh motion on that item.
1:44And I did forget the Spanish English interpreter.
1:54Good afternoon, everyone.
1:57Las personas que prefieren escuchar esta junta in espanhol.
2:00Pass it for favor a la cav cabina de la parte derecha atrás para que les demos un dispositivo de interpretación.
2:14Um I have to recuse from the combined hearing agenda, so I will step out of the room and uh Commissioner Bustamante also has to recuse, so it is 202, and Commissioner Peck and Bustamante are leaving the room.
2:33All right, we'll move forward with the consent.
2:36Um we do have a a number of people signed up to speak on item 13.
2:41Um you'll have three minutes.
2:43If you can please state your name and address for the record.
2:55Do you wish to speak?
2:57Actually, you want to you want to cede your time?
3:01To have time to just okay.
3:16Do you wish to speak?
3:29Uh good afternoon, Scott Day.
3:31Uh address is 1919 North Florida Street.
3:35Um, I'm the managing partner for GRLS Partners.
3:38We own the property to the south of the tower.
3:40Uh to me it's unclear why we need to take this action.
3:45Uh the zoning that's there matches the zoning with the land use that's there presently.
3:50Um speaking with some of the neighbors around there.
3:54We're perplexed as to what's driving this.
3:56Uh I understand mixed use development.
3:59Uh there are certainly appropriate areas for it.
4:02If you look at the adjacent areas, the land use is it's all low density, medium density, residential.
4:08Uh our primary urban commercial street is San Pedro, which is two blocks away.
4:14It seems that that would be a much more appropriate area for uh the zoning uh overlay.
4:34Okay, my name is Maria Alvarado.
4:37My name is Maria Alvarado, and I live at 131 Hickman.
4:41And I'm actually on case the whatever they want to do there.
4:48Because there's a lot of crime going on.
4:50There's a lot of homeless, and there's a lot of traffic.
5:04We only think we have one voicemail on item 13.
5:11This is Madeline Schumart, owner of 1814 North Tamal Street, located within 200 feet of the 114 Hitman Street.
5:21I'm calling to express my opposition to the proposed land use amendment request for the mid-town area regional centered plan.
5:30Um I believe the current zoning should remain in place at this time.
5:34Uh when there's a concrete proposal for a new development in the future, that would be an appropriate time to revisit the zoning uh discussion.
5:43Um thank you for your consideration.
5:47All right, I think that includes uh public comments.
5:50Uh do any commissioners wish to pull any items from the consent agenda?
5:55Is there any uh further discussion related to the consent agenda?
6:01Hearing none, I just want to remind on the motion that we have uh an amendment to the minutes, so if we can just make sure that we approve it with the amendment.
6:13I move that we approve the consent agenda with the minutes as amended.
6:19I second motion to approve uh as amended by Commissioner Siegel, second by Commissioner Sanchez Commissioner Siegel, yes, Commissioner Sanchez, yes, Commissioner Garcia.
6:36Yes, Commissioner Lopez.
6:38Yes, Commissioner Ulett.
6:40Yes, Commissioner Orion.
6:47Motion passes for approval as amended.
6:51Um if we can ask Commissioner Bustamani and Chair Peck to come back.
7:01Commissioner Bustamani and Chair Peck have re-entered the meeting.
7:05And I'll turn the meeting back over to Chair Peck.
8:00There were 16 notices mailed, two in favor, zero opposed within 200 feet, no registered neighborhood association with 200 feet, or response from outside the 200 feet.
8:10The proposed plan amendment from medium density residential to regional commercial is requested to in order to rezone the property to C3 General Commercial District.
8:20The proposed regional commercial land use is not consistent with the surrounding properties.
8:25The requested regional commercial is out of character with the surrounding land use designations and uses.
10:00The reason why we are asking for the C tree and not just for the C D is because we have intentions in the future to perhaps have other uses such as maybe contractors or some automotive, just as the ones on the on the street.
10:09Bulberda road already has um plenty of uh I want to show them the the zoning map if possible.
10:17I have one somewhere there.
10:21I'm sorry, that right there, yes.
10:23Well, one of the reasons we felt confident to to uh request this change is due to the fact as you can see that most of the street already has a C tree on it, and we have enough distance from uh the residential area, which is par me.
10:39Which is which is up in this direction.
10:42Or although this is currently R6, we have spoken with the owner of this property.
10:47Uh we have a letter of consent from him.
10:50Uh he pretends to eventually uh turn this area also into some commercial use, and of course, try to leave some kind of buffer with with the with the back area that butts to the to the residential.
11:04We've also spoke with this uh neighbors.
11:07The they're also pretending to have uh commercial use.
11:11Actually, as we speak, this one is being offered as a commercial uh property already, and and and with this neighbor as well, that we got a letter of of approval from them.
11:21Um they are also pretending to have uh a commercial.
11:24So again, the fact that we are not uh so close to the residential area, and we somehow are more in contact with uh an area that already not only has C3 but also has industrial right across the street, makes us feel comfortable that it's not something that will affect the surroundings.
11:42And also thinking of the future, uh like I mentioned, if by any chance this tends to have a different use, uh we we don't have to come in again rezone every time for a for a special CD.
11:55That's that's basically the reason why.
11:57And then like I like mentioned already a week ago, uh we went to the zoning commission and they found it uh positive.
12:05Thank you very much.
12:08All right, thank you.
12:10Uh no one signed up to speak on this item, so we'll move on to Commissioner questions.
12:13We'll start on the right with Commissioner Siegel.
12:19I don't have any questions, thank you.
12:21Commissioner Prophet?
12:23Uh just to clarify that the zoning commission approved C3.
12:28Um the recommendation, alternate recommendation is for neighborhood commercial.
12:34Um I'm sorry, community commercial, uh of which C3 is not permitted in that land use.
12:43So the zoning commission did recommend approval for the C3, but again, that would not align with the um staff's recommendation of community commercial.
12:51Yeah, I I support the alternate recommendations.
12:56Uh your regional centers is too big of a too dense of a use and it doesn't meet the the land use standard.
13:04So um I'm good with the alternate recommendation.
13:08Okay, Commissioner Willett?
13:14Yes, uh so uh uh the the church that's right behind this, they own that entire swath of property that zoned R6.
13:22Not the entire swath, but the larger parcel, I believe.
13:27Yeah, I just I didn't know if there was any future planning or anything going on there, but it is all owned by the church.
13:33Again, the larger area.
13:34I do know that the area that shows medium density residential is owned by somebody else, and I believe they attempted to rezone as well.
13:42Um I want to say over a year ago, but just because of issues with um access through a resident uh single family residentially zoned property, it kind of failed.
13:54Um I was just looking at there was any potential for a true R6 use directly abutting this uh subject application, that's all.
14:02All right, thank you.
14:08Commissioner Garcia.
14:10I had a question for stab.
14:12This doesn't involve the ACUs for the airport.
14:18Um it is under it is within the airport hazard overlay district, but um so I don't believe the aviation department was made was sent notification on this.
14:30We notify folks typically if they're within a radius of the uh airports.
14:37Was that what you were asking about?
14:46And Commissioner Boostamani.
14:48And I'm sorry, I just aviation department was notified of that they were sent this application, so they did get a chance to review it.
15:00No, they did get a chance to review it, and any comments that we've received, we typically put in the staff reports.
15:07And this thing is less than an acre, correct?
15:11The property, yeah, it's 0.992 acres.
15:15I'll echo uh Commissioner Prophet's uh statement about being in favor of the alternate recommendation of community commercial.
15:23The location and the size don't seem to fit regional commercial to me.
15:28Uh any further commissioner questions.
15:31Not my entertainer roll call or a motion.
15:35Motion to approve uh the alternate recommendation of community commercial We have a motion by Commissioner Prophet for the approval of staff's alternate recommendation of community commercial seconds.
15:52Second by Commissioner Sanchez.
15:54Staff, please do a roll call vote.
15:56Commissioner Prophet.
15:58Commissioner Sanchez.
16:00Commissioner Garcia.
16:09Commissioner Bustamante.
16:12Commissioner Siegel.
16:18Motion passes for approval with alternate recommendation.
16:25We will move on to item 18, UDC amendments.
16:29Never thought I'd say those words until 2027.
16:48Can we do the PowerPoint?
16:51Yeah, we're going to load the PowerPoint for the UDC amendments unless we really want to go line by line on 11 pages.
17:09Yeah, board briefing.
17:14So I have a real quick five, 10-minute presentation to give you all today.
17:18I know that we have in work sessions previously had a chance to kind of introduce some of these UDC amendments.
17:24We've been working very closely with our city attorney's office and interpreting the laws, figuring out how to apply them.
17:30Before I get started in this presentation, I do want to say once again that the purpose of the 2025 UDC amendment program is merely to update the UDC to account for mandates down from the 89th Texas legislative session.
17:45So there's nothing in here that's submitted from other departments, other agencies from DSD.
17:50This is merely to account for changes in state law.
18:02This relates to a county exemption from building permits.
18:24So there is a caveat there.
18:45So right now, for many years, the city has had interlocal agreements with Bear County.
18:50We work with the fire marshal's office.
19:21This deals more with the zoning process than anything the planning commission would see.
19:27The first kind of major change this bill calls for is it simply says that the big yellow rezoning sign that's posted on property has to be bigger.
19:36So right now it's two by three, it's now got to be two by four.
19:40So I know we're working with the print shop to try to get special signs made to uh comply with that.
19:45The law goes on to say that if it is a owner-initiated change of zoning, you know, the sign has to be placed on the property.
19:53If it's a city initiated large area rezoning that's allowed to be placed in the right-of-way, or what they describe as the general boundary of the large area rezoning project, which is typically what we would do anyway.
20:05So not much of a change in process.
20:17That was the subject of a lawsuit up in Austin.
20:20They had adopted a new unified development code.
20:24I think they called it Code Next.
20:26Some people didn't like it.
20:27They sued and it was struck down because they said you didn't mail every property owner in Austin that the code was changing.
20:34So the law does clarify that that is not required, what they call kind of a comprehensive zoning change.
20:40And then most importantly, it dramatically changes the process by which city council approves changes of zoning when nearby property owners protest the change.
20:52So today, if we mail uh notices to property owners within 200 feet, and 20% of the owners, the land area within 200 feet writes back to the city and says I'm opposed, city council has to approve that by a supermajority rather than a simple majority.
21:11This law, it's a little confusing the way it's written.
21:15The way it's written literally says we're going to change that 20 to 60, and oh, by the way, even if you hit 60, it's still a simple majority.
21:24In effect, it basically says that if your rezoning property that results in more housing units, the supermajority rule does not apply.
21:32So it would always be locked in as a simple majority.
21:34Again, it's written kind of confusing, but that's what it boils down to.
21:39So the idea there is it makes uh it's less of a burden to get a change of zoning approved that if the change of zoning results in more housing units.
21:52House Bill 2464 has some slight tweaks to the supplemental use regulations in Article 3 zoning as it relates to home occupations.
22:02The biggest difference is that our code today prohibits a home occupation from having employees on site or direct on-site sales.
22:13This would, we would no longer be able to restrict, you know, if you were a tax preparer and you had an employee that came to your house and helped you prepare taxes, that would be allowed.
22:23Um but there are still several really critical limitations that the city can apply.
22:29Um specifically, the law says that if your home occupation generates one on street parking, you know, one car parked on the street, that is illegal.
22:40It has to be on your property.
22:42We can still apply our noise ordinance, and we can still require that it match the character of the community in which that home occupation is located.
22:52So, you know, you you can't be a mechanic with 10 cars that you're waiting to fix in the lawn.
22:57We still have opportunity to intervene to ensure that our neighborhoods and character thereof is protected.
23:06Um this slide and the next are certainly the two most impactful bills.
23:11Uh SB 15 deals with small lot development.
23:16So it is a it's really a two-part bill.
23:19Part one of the bill is provided you qualify, meaning your tract is at least five acres, has no recorded plat, and uh is zoned any type of single family.
23:32The city cannot require that you subdivide those lots to be greater than 3,000 square feet.
23:38You can voluntarily subdivide them whatever size greater than that you would like.
23:42You know, if you're R6 and you want to do 10,000 square foot lots, that's fine, but I can't require you to be greater than 3,000.
23:50Part two of the bill says that if you elect to subdivide lots that are 4,000 square feet or smaller, that is now in the state law definition, that is called a small lot, and you are given additionally uh kind of flexible development standards.
24:09So we cannot apply a front setback that is greater than 15 feet, a rear setback that is greater than 10, the five-foot side setback doesn't really change.
24:20That's pretty consistent with our current development code.
24:23Another relatively big difference there is a lot of our single family districts today limit building height to two and a half stories, and we have you may recall from the last UDC amendment rendition, we adopted a definition of what a half story is.
24:38This would supersede that.
24:39So just three full stories, each can be 10 feet in height.
24:43Um there are some limitations.
24:46Uh, you cannot take advantage of this provision if you are within 3,000 feet of a military base or an airport, nor can you take advantage of this provision if you are within 15,000 feet of a military base with a designated clear zone.
25:02Locally, that means Randolph and Lackland.
25:04So not within 15,000 feet of those two military bases.
25:08So we'll certainly be working with the staff to kind of train the team, make sure everyone's aware of this and come up with processes to make sure these applicability standards are reviewed in advance of a project getting underground.
25:22But uh that's definitely one that is gonna be uh quite a change from a lot of what we've done historically.
25:30And lastly, we have Senate Bill 840.
25:33Uh, this deals with multifamily and mixed use multifamily development.
25:38Another two-part bill, uh, it does apply to, I should say part one of this applies to any tract of land that is zoned commercial, office, light industrial, or any special district that authorizes those same uses.
25:53So you might have a MPCD and phase three calls for office.
25:59Uh you would be allowed to develop multifamily in phase three.
26:03Um you might have to amend the underlying, you know, MDP or MPCD plan to account for the increase in units, but uh that would be allowed.
26:12Um if you're going to develop mixed use, the law does say that at least 65% of your floor area has to be residential in nature.
26:20So kind of again the emphasis on residential development.
26:24And the law says that the city has to allow the density for those projects to be developed at the greater of 36 units per acre or the highest multifamily density that the city offers.
26:37Locally, that is 65 units per acre.
26:40So that is high-rise multifamily density.
26:43Um part two of this bill, uh, in addition to having a track that is zoned that way, if you have a track that is zoned that way and has a building on it, and that building has been there for at least five years, you are allowed to convert that building into multifamily or mixed use, and the city cannot require you to do a traffic impact analysis or study.
27:06We can't require payment for construction improvements.
27:10We cannot require uh utility upsizing beyond the needs of that particular project.
27:17So no downstream improvements and anticipation of future growth nearby.
27:23Um, and we cannot require that it comply with any design standard except for those, and I'll just I'll quote the law directly, except for areas of historic or cultural significance.
27:36So things like historic districts would still be going through OHP and the design review process.
27:42So a couple uh kind of stipulations on that one, similar to the previous bill, you can't do this within 3,000 feet of a military base or an airport.
27:52You cannot do it in heavy industrial districts or within 1,000 feet of a heavy industrial use.
27:59So again, some limitations, we don't want high density residential development near heavy industrial uses, um, but another uh really uh critical change to how development is permitted and what is permitted by right as far as the zoning rules are concerned.
28:19So kind of our plan to implement these.
28:22Uh I'm obviously here today giving you all a briefing.
28:25Uh we will be to the zoning commission on September 2nd for briefing and action.
28:30Uh and then we will take this suite of amendments to the city council on September 4th, um, just a little bit behind the effective date of these laws.
28:40They do take effect on September 1st, uh, but certainly here at DSD will be geared up and ready to go on 9-1 to get those projects rolling because we've already got people that have expressed interest.
28:52So, perhaps unsurprisingly.
28:59Okay, any questions?
29:01Yes, I have uh so I've got just a handful of questions.
29:04Number one, where it were the on the five-acre part where the land is platted, if someone does a vacate plat.
29:11So that that was actually one of the first questions we were asked.
29:14So even if you vacate a plant, that plant might not be effective, but it is still recorded.
29:20So and then uh does RM4 count as a single family use.
29:28I think that we would have to allow it in RM4 because RM4 starts off life as a single family district, and then you get you get bonuses if you want to develop quadruplex, triplex, or duplex.
29:41There's no way is in the in the UDC definitions, it implies that it's over four to be considered multiple.
29:47I know if someone was putting in a quadplex, whether that would I'm just waiting for that to come up, obviously, because there's a lot of RM4 around.
29:54Uh so that's that uh the third question I have is um about the home occupations and about increasing all street parking.
30:01Does that also apply on a private street or an irrevocable ingress egress easement street?
30:07The law does not differentiate.
30:09It says if it generates any on street parking, it is illegal.
30:14And then my last question uh has to do with um the um the oversize utility extend upgrade or oversize utility facility is necessary.
30:26I mean, I'm glad that you have it in the UDC.
30:28Have you communicated this with SAWs?
30:30Because they love to make people do stuff.
30:33Yeah, so I've presented this presentation a couple times, including to groups with you know SAWS CPS folks.
30:39So they're they're aware the the law started off life as just a blanket no matter what, you cannot require any utility upsizing.
30:47It's like, well, if you're converting a 1,000 square foot office building into a five-story hundred unit multifamily development, we're gonna need to be able to request this.
30:58I bring it up, there's a lot of six inch mains downtown, so somebody does a convert, so might, or if there's a dead end main, they may want you to loop it, connect it, extend it.
31:07And I did I just wanted to make sure they're in the loop on that.
31:10They are in the loop.
31:16Um Commissioner, I don't think your microphone is on.
31:23Um U to C section 35.04, I don't remember which bill this was in relation to, I don't remember the bill number.
31:32But if no permit is required for these county facilities, the requirement is that they must be supervised by a licensed building professional engineer or architect, and that they have to comply with local building codes.
31:48What what kind of oversight is permitted by this bill if not permitting an inspections by the local municipality?
31:55Yeah, it's it's not permitting and it's not inspections.
31:57It's really on the uh the kind of the seal, the license of the person certifying that it complies.
32:05Um I think that this bill is a very uh simplified boiled down version of uh House Bill 23.
32:13It's the um I know I presented kind of an update to the planning commission as we went through the session, but there was uh this overarching idea that development should be allowed to bypass the city entirely in lieu of the private sector.
32:28Um I will tell you that House Bill 23 had the support to pass.
32:33It failed because they ran out of time.
32:35Uh I think that this is kind of the very closely related to that that idea.
32:40Um at least in House Bill 23, we were able to get some language added that said you can certify it, but I still have the right to do a final inspection before I issue a C of O.
32:51That language was not included in this bill.
32:54So it's gonna be interesting as this one gets implemented.
32:58I again I will say that we have for many years had an ILA with Bear County where we have a process worked out to do this.
33:05I don't know that we're gonna see real changes, meaningful changes to the process that we have.
33:11Again, this bill was targeted to another county.
33:15I think it was up in Dallas.
33:16Um but yeah, we've effectively don't have recourse.
33:20We have to accept the results of that third party, uh whether it's the engineer or the architect, so long as they're licensed.
33:27Okay, so that's a that's a follow-up question.
33:30So the let's say there's a registered design professional in responsible charge, right?
33:35And they write a letter and they put their stamp on it and they say, to the best of my knowledge, understanding and belief, this building and this construction complies with applicable codes and standards of the municipality, then where does that letter go?
33:47Do they frame it and put it on the wall?
33:49Does it get tossed in the round file?
33:50Yeah, so we we would request a copy of it.
33:54So it's a little complicated because it's not like we can upload it and attach it to a permit record, which we would typically do something like that for.
34:02But we we can at least intervene if we're aware of the development and request that, you know, I need something in writing from the design team that says it meets our building codes and our standards, but I have no way to go in there and verify if that's accurate.
34:17The I will also say the um the similar bill, House Bill 23 that failed.
34:23It did not fail again, they ran out of time.
34:25It hadn't support, and I anticipate we will see it in two years' time.
34:29Um we were able to get a fair amount of language added to say you are required to turn over your your inspection notes.
34:36You know, what did you inspect?
34:38How did you find that it complied with our codes?
34:41We could require that with that kind of similar bill, but again, none of that language made its way to this one.
34:50Um then um you sort of touched on this um small lot development.
35:00Um I remember um some of the deliberations regarding those um design limitations for smaller lots, um, particularly those that are in center city neighborhoods.
35:10And um I was wondering about how those amendments will be impacted by this new law.
35:19Or are we going to be threading a needle or how is this?
35:21I think that SB 15 will have very limited impact on kind of established neighborhoods.
35:28Kind of the closer to downtown, the less likely is this bill will apply because it's got to be a five-acre tract with no recorded plat.
35:35Okay, so this this is sort of like an initial development.
35:39Yeah, this is a greenfield development bill.
35:42This is out the further out you get, the more likely this is to apply.
35:46Or it could be a property redevelopment of a large tract of land, like an abandoned strip mall or not likely because a strip mall probably has a plat.
35:57So one of the all those first three bullets, all three of those have to be true.
36:01It has to be five acres, and it has to have no recorded plat, and it has to be zoned single family.
36:08So I mean, there's just not a lot of five acre, never ever been platted tracks, you know, even residential estate is a one-acre minimum lot size.
36:22So it again, I'm not saying I'm sure there's some out there.
36:26I just don't think it's going to be very common in like really well established neighborhoods.
36:31And then ag parcels are not um zoned single family, are they?
36:38So we have a resource protection district, we have a farm and ranch district, um farm and ranch district.
36:45We're talking about farm and ranch and resource protection.
36:47We're probably talking far south side, you know, in between 1604 and 410.
36:51I can see this applying there.
36:53But I don't I don't think this is going to be applicable anywhere in Beacon Hill or Mankey Park.
36:58There's just not that many undeveloped you know, acres.
37:05Uh question, just clarification on the county uh county owned facilities.
37:11So what about the public financing court like the county when they do like a s like a uh affordable housing project?
37:20That's a ground lease, so it's it's owned by somebody else, but that that's I might have to it might be a case by case review with the city attorney's office on that one.
37:30I think from experience, I'm not the city attorney for the record.
37:36Um but from experience when we've had situation like this with uh the courthouse if and um the federal government if they are if they own the property and someone else is leasing it, the leasee has to comply with our permit activity, is what I can recall.
37:54This won't change that.
37:56Yeah, I I think that it's that's probably a a good example to use.
37:59This this idea is not totally new to the city.
38:03You know, if the federal government comes in and wants to open a military base, we don't get to require building permits.
38:08We don't even get to require that it be certified by an architect or an engineer.
38:12So it's kind of expanding the number of government agencies that don't have to run through us, so it's it's not totally totally new.
38:20And there may be other contractual or like ILA voluntary regulations that may be imposed based on the specific uh building itself.
38:28Yeah, you kind of see where I'm going though if somebody wants to build a 400 unit multifamily development on prop land that's owned by maybe a county-owned corporation, you know.
38:39Yeah, I I think the the use of the word facility probably becomes pretty important.
38:44County owned facility, not county-owned land.
38:47Yeah, that's what my question was.
38:50Uh another question occurs to me is how will this impact um the necessity to review plans and inspect facilities for um a registered accessibility specialist?
39:06I'm gonna have to look into that one and get back to you there.
39:10So I'm a RAS and we do a lot of that stuff.
39:14That's a state level permit, not a city level permit.
39:17And count counties aren't exempt, only federal agencies.
39:21So they have to turn every political subdivision in Texas has to submit those things.
39:25And I would agree with Commissioner Orion's statement.
39:31And on top of you know the other inspection questions you're asking, the county fire marshal is still involved.
39:37So they will be we had a meeting with Bear County, and I don't know if it was last couple Fridays ago.
39:42And they were kind of saying this wasn't gonna be that big of a deal because they're still gonna have their county fire marshal out there doing what he does.
39:50So there will be inspections happening.
39:52Just not from the city.
39:58Any other questions for Logan?
40:00Appreciate your time, everyone.
40:03And we don't have to take action on that, correct?
40:05That's just a briefing.
40:07Is there any other staff updates?
40:14Then hearing nothing else, it is 240 and we are adjourned.