Good morning.

I'd like to call to order the Historic and Design Review Commission compliance and technical advisory board meeting for Friday, May 22nd, 2026.

Can I have a roll call, please?

Davis, present.

Garcia.

Present.

Regard.

Present, Virtual.

Spiller.

Present.

Fullerton Pollock?

Here.

Speeds.

Vasquez.

Present.

And Zipulvada.

We have a quorum.

Thank you.

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The compliance and technical advisory board is an advisory board appointed by the city council.

I'm Jason Vosquez, Vice Chair, and Juanita Sibóveda is a chair.

It is the function of the board to advise the city manager and all relevant city departments concerning certain applications for permits for properties in historic districts and landmarks in considering whether to recommend approval or disapproval of an application for certificate of appropriateness.

The board shall be guided by the city's Unified Development Code and design guidelines and standards that have been adopted by city council.

An appeal of a decision by an administrative official can be filed in accordance with the city's unified development code.

If anyone present wishes to speak in favor or in opposition to any item on today's agenda, please sign up on the public comment sheet.

It is not necessary to sign up if you are the owner of or representative for a project on the agenda.

You'll be called on as the case is called.

Case representatives will be given no more than 15 minutes to present their case with an additional two minutes to respond to public comments.

Speakers for or opposed to a case will be limited to two minutes each.

Speakers may also sign up to yield their two minutes to another speaker who has signed up.

Anyone who is yielding their time must be present at the time the speaker is called upon.

Speakers will be called upon in the order in which they are signed up.

Following public testimony, any commissioner may call upon any speaker to respond to further questions.

Approval by the board does not take the place of any type of permit.

Permits must be obtained for all work.

Certificates of appropriateness for work approved by the board will be emailed to you within 10 days.

No work of any type is to be started without obtaining the appropriate city permits after a certificate of appropriateness has been issued by the Office of Historic Preservations.

At this time, please silence your cell phones.

And we'll move right into approval of meeting minutes from the April 17th, 2025 meeting.

Can I have a roll call, please?

We need a vote first.

We need a motion to approve.

I make a motion.

We approve the minutes from April 17, 2026.

Second.

Thank you.

Can I have a roll call, please?

Davis.

Aye.

Garcia.

Aye.

Regard.

Abstention.

Spiller.

Aye.

Polyg?

Aye.

Speeds?

Aye.

And Vasquez.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Great, thank you.

And we'll move right into cases.

Good morning, Commissioners.

This is CTAP Case 2026-128 for 136 Gorman.

The applicant is requesting a certificate of appropriateness for approval to install a four-foot tall wrought iron front yard fence that will include a pedestrian gate and two sliding gates.

Staff recommends approval of the request based on findings A through D with the following stipulations that the fence does not exceed four feet in height at any portion of the final installation, and that only one driveway gate be installed on the northeast side of the property.

Commissioners, there is a late um file in your folder that I can pull up as well.

Um and there is also a letter from the Dignoty Hill Um Neighborhood Association.

I will note that the applicant already acknowledged and agrees with the stipulation of only one driveway gate.

And um and I don't know if he's um online at this moment.

Edward, do you see him online?

Doesn't look like it, right?

No.

Yeah, yeah.

So um commissioners, so you know I'll let you decide if um, you know, if you'd like to hear this case.

We'll take it up because I believe he agreed to the stipulations that were outlined by OHP.

Correct.

That's correct, Vice Chair.

So he um already acknowledged um that he agrees with one put one rolling gate, which was the only reason why this is on the um individual agenda rather than on the consent.

And on the late folder, he submitted a site plan with uh showing only one rolling gate.

Yes, and y'all will um make sure he only installs one rolling gate on the northeast side, correct, yeah.

And so um, and and for the northeast side, you know, we we initially stipulated that because um we believe that's the wider side between the property line and the structure.

So for us it makes more sense to install the driveway gate on the side with more clearance so that it doesn't um you know start coming into the front plane of the house.

So that that's why we stipulated the northeast side.

Great, thank you.

Um any questions from my colleagues on the left?

Right.

Qu questions online?

I have no questions at this time, thank you.

Thank you.

Any comments?

If not, I'd like a motion, please.

I just have a quick clarification.

Uh so the other stipulation was that it not exceed four feet in height.

Have they agreed to that as well?

Yes, and that was from the beginning.

So the only um, you know, thing that originally was um was something that we were not recommending was the tree two driveway gates.

But from the beginning, uh the four feet um tall wrought iron fence was was completely part of the request.

Thank you.

Great, thank you.

Can I have a motion, please?

I make a motion, we accept a staff recommendation.

Second.

Great.

Can I have a roll call?

Davis.

Aye.

Garcia, aye, regard.

Aye.

Spiller.

Aye.

Commissioner Fullerton.

I know you just got here, but are you ready to vote or would you like to I'll abstain.

Abstain.

Okay.

Pollock?

Aye.

Speeds?

Aye.

Vasquez?

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Okay, we'll move on to the next case, Commissioners.

So the next case is uh CTAP case 2026-108 for 626 Nolan Street.

The applicant is requesting a certificate of appropriateness for approval to first replace the existing front door of the primary structure, and two, replace the existing Corinthian columns and pilasters on the front porch of the primary structure with Tuscan style columns and pilasters.

Staff does not recommend approval of item one based on finding B.

Staff recommends the existing front door be maintained and repaired in kind as necessary.

Staff does not recommend approval of item two based on finding C.

Staff recommends the existing columns and pilasters be maintained and repaired in kind as necessary.

There is one letter in your file from the um Dignity Hill Neighborhood Association, and the applicants are here in person.

If you'd like to come up, um applicants for 626 Nolan, um, you'll have uh 12 minutes to speak.

And if you can please um uh provide your name and address once you uh arrive here.

Okay.

Okay, my name's Billy Tellas.

Uh and we're working at 626 Nolan Street.

On the front door is oh, it's not um original to the house.

So and it's falling apart.

So that was the reason why we're trying to change it.

Um, and on the columns, they're plastic, so we can't do any stuffle on them, and they're seamed together.

So that was just the request on what we're trying to do.

And on the neighborhood, I've gone over all the neighborhood taking pictures of the same columns that we want to put up and doors similar to the ones we want to put up.

Great.

Do you have anything else?

I mean, anything like that, that's about it.

Okay.

Then we'll take.

Yeah.

And and we will show a few sample um photographs from the neighborhood that the applicant provided.

If you'd like to comment on these.

Yeah, we're trying to do a divided light in the front, which will be half uh half light.

And that's right down the street from in the I don't know if it's in the the historical district, but it's like two or three blocks down the street.

And I've taken several pictures of columns and uh doors that have some kind of glass in with divided light in them.

So I was just trying to see what we could do.

Okay.

What's that?

Yeah, that door is just falling apart.

The door is falling apart.

I mean, 2005.

Yeah.

Okay.

Great.

Then um we'll give our my colleagues uh uh time to ask you questions.

Questions from my left.

Go ahead.

Uh yes, you said that the columns are plastic.

So they're not original.

No, ma'am.

And you're gonna replace it with what?

With a uh a smooth column.

And I got pictures of those columns right there.

Are those also plastic?

No, they're uh permacast, it actually weight bearing.

And did you say that you were gonna stucco them?

No, no.

I can't stuckle the ones that are there because they're made out of plastic.

Why would you stucco them?

Why would you want to?

I guess my question.

No, I don't want to stuckle them.

I'm just saying I can't they're saying to repair them.

I can't repair them because they're plastic.

The columns.

What is the repair that needs to be made to them?

They just want to change the look.

So it's not really repairing them that they that they need you.

Not on the columns.

They're just wanting to replace them, yeah, because they got so many ordinate pieces on there.

They're fluted and they're just really, you know, not what's something that they like.

All right, thank you.

Any further questions for my colleagues on the left?

Commissioner Speeds.

The uh existing columns are plastic, so they're obviously not original.

The door is also not original.

No, sir.

The house is over 60 years old, and this door is like 25 years old.

Okay.

Is that it?

Any questions online?

None at this time, thank you.

Thank you.

Uh so you just mentioned that it's not um matter of um disrepair.

It's a matter of changing the look.

Yes, sir.

On the column.

And that's why we're here.

This board is here because you're in a historic district, and you are not supposed to change the look of homes within a historic district.

You're supposed to maintain the historic integrity of homes within a historic district.

I don't know if but the homeowners there bought the home, not knowing it's not in a historic district, or um what the deal was, but do you want to speak?

I would if you don't mind.

Go ahead.

Commissioner, on the on the columns themselves, they were originally Doric in nature, very smooth.

And whenever a Catholic worker house moved in and remodeled the house to restore or to I guess remodel it.

Then they wanted something a little bit more fancier that would dress it up given the nature of what what they did.

I'm simply trying to bring it back to what it looked like originally.

And so that's why I want to replace the plastic on the doors.

I mean on the on the column.

It's just they're they're junk is really what they are.

It was a it was a non-profit organization that went in and did it on the cheap and made them, you know, try to make it look nice.

It's not the original look of the house.

If it's it's uh when I talked to the president of the Catholic worker last week, we were talking about this.

They did it around the year 2005, and he said they were smooth in nature.

The only thing that I can figure out based that they didn't replace the columns is that they were Doric, you know, which it was I mean, you know what that means.

So that that's why we want to do it regarding the door, it will not keep the cold in.

I mean it won't keep it out in the winter, it won't keep it in in the in the summertime.

It's very inefficient.

You can put your foot right through the the base of the door.

I mean, it's basically junk, it's not historic, it was 2005, and I'm just simply trying to bring something up to the neighborhood that that will improve the quality of of what's there.

I've been associated with Catholic worker house since 2010, and I mean I love that neighborhood.

That's why I bought the house from them.

And so I really want the house to be what it's supposed to be, what it was originally when when Dignity was at its height, and that's all I'm trying to do.

Not trying to cause a problem or change anything that's not uh consistent with what had been there if historic is really the goal.

That's always the goal, and um I'll ask staff questions about that.

So, did y'all make the site visit and analyze the composition of those columns and whether they're original or yeah, that's a great question, um vice chair.

So staff did not make a site visit, it's not particularly common with this type of request.

However, we weren't made aware that the columns were plastic in nature.

Um if the applicant has photos um from before work started in 2005 showing the um previous column condition, uh, then that may be something that we can improve administratively as a return to historic condition.

Um, alternatively, if they have any information about what door existed there historically, uh staff could look and see if a replacement door that matches the architectural style of the structure would be uh more appropriate.

So those are two routes that we could pursue administratively.

Um, however, the um particular columns that are requested here today, uh staff does not believe matches the architectural uh style of the of the structure.

Um and uh the door itself too.

Um so uh I hope that answers your question, and then I'll pass this over to Adrian if you all have any other questions.

Thank you.

That helps.

Go ahead, Adrian.

Yeah, so um uh my colleague Brian kind of you know explains the main parts of it.

So um the biggest thing here is kind of the um architectural style of these columns in relation to the house.

So um we could potentially um again consider approving administratively um an again an alternate design based on previous photos of what was there.

You know, obviously we're we're always happy for in kind replacement or bringing it back to its original uh condition.

And then um and with the door, again, we basically base it on um what we see there now um as well as um if it's appropriate or not.

So um we're we're going off of that based on our recommendation.

Is there any way of researching and find out what the original door and pillars look like?

We we have a few resources.

Uh we have survey photos from the very early 90s.

Uh sometimes those do show, sometimes they don't, depending on the depth of the porch and the time of day.

Uh usually the porch is kind of blacked out.

Uh, but we can certainly look at the survey photos.

Um, a few other things that that we usually go by when we talk about something being appropriate is the architectural style of the house.

Uh so we can also reference that, work with the applicant on a door profile that would be architecturally appropriate.

Uh so we can we can take a further look.

Obviously, if the applicant has any photos uh from your previous time, uh that would be helpful.

Um, but that would uh trying to find photos.

I know we have a photo of this house, I just don't know how clearly it's gonna show uh what door profile is there.

I mean, you can see in this picture, um, you know, it's kind of it's already difficult, and that's not an old photo.

Um, so we'll take a look and see what we can find out.

So these are the pictures that were uh provided by the applicant.

Yes.

Okay.

So Edward, what would the best course of action be for y'all to properly analyze uh this before should we?

Um well so um we can go and look to see what if we can see what information we can find out.

Uh we can work with the applicant on that.

If we can find a solution administratively, then that's what we're gonna do.

Um if for whatever reason we can't um if that can't be determined um and we can go and see what the columns are that are there now.

Um I think we can find a solution to move forward with with the applicant uh based on information that we now know and work with them to find something that's close to uh what was originally there.

It could be what the applicant's already proposed, or it may need to be something a little different.

We can work with the applicant administratively.

If that doesn't happen, then the applicant of course could come back.

You could table this to uh the next hearing if we need it to.

Um that would be an option.

Okay.

Um let me additional comment.

I just like to say uh I'm in favor of supporting restoring it to what it was to pre-2 uh 2005.

Well, that needs to be determined uh by OHP first, because you don't even know what what it was before and they don't know.

Well, possible.

Uh go ahead.

Chris.

Thank you, Mr.

Vice Chair.

I was just looking on uh the historic collection of photos from Google Maps, and uh unfortunately they only go back to October 2007.

Um so you can see that the new columns, as you have already pointed out, you know, two years after um have already been installed.

But the front door is harder to tell.

I I can't tell if that's a screen door on it or maybe it maybe it was the uh an earlier door at least, uh maybe solid wood, but um Google's cameras were a little less uh clear back then uh back in the olden days, so uh but I certainly appreciate um the interest and the commitment of the owners to trying to to find an appropriate column for this house because the the high style uh Corinthian does look kind of out of place with uh the other elements on the house.

Um so I'm I'm hopeful that between OHP and um maybe the neighborhood association or others um some other uh photo documentation can turn up.

So I I'm hopeful that we can all work together here and find uh a solution.

Thank y'all.

Yeah, thank you.

Edward, what style of home is this considered?

And uh yeah, so we actually we spent a good amount of time.

Well, not a good amount of time, but we spent some time from staff standpoint trying to figure out what we'd exactly call that.

And uh there are a handful of names.

Um in regards to process moving forward, um, this could be continued to the next hearing.

Um, and within that time, here in the next couple of business days, staff will work with the applicant and try to figure out um a column profile and a door profile that's appropriate.

Uh the only issue with the continuance, I think that would be June the 26th is when we would have the next CTAB hearing is the 60-day review period for this application is I think June the 9th.

Uh so the applicant would need to agree uh to that continuance uh to push that out to June the 26th.

Within that time we would work with the applicant, and if for whatever reason we couldn't find a solution, then it could be brought back here on that date that date-specific hearing.

So it'd either be a continuance or a denial.

It wouldn't have to be a denial.

You could craft a motion for an approval or an approval with stipulations, but probably the best thing would be to allow staff to work with the applicant.

Yeah, and if we can't determine a solution, then just come back to the CTAB because at that time the applicant could represent their initial proposal, or they may have additional information that they have at that time as well.

Okay.

Um I'll just say that that uh yeah.

Go ahead.

Thank you.

Um, so I'm sorry, what are the what's the material of the proposed column that you're gonna replace?

It's a concrete product.

It would be a concrete product.

And um the material of the door.

It'll be a mahogany.

It would be a mahogany.

It'll be a mahogany uh stain grade, which the door that they that's there is a stain grade door.

What happened was they never took care of it.

So the sun got to it, the weather got to it, it's just falling apart.

I think um, and this would be a comment maybe more for staff if you do work with uh the applicant that you look at a material for the columns that would be appropriate um to this time period and the style of the house.

And that's correct, Commissioner.

So um, in working with um, you know, the applicants, we would of course um, you know, uh show them the guidelines and make sure that the material of the columns, the proposed replacement, is also eligible for approval, you know, because otherwise, um, again, with with the material of the proposed column, you know, that would almost certainly bring it back to you guys, um, because you know that would probably not be something we would approve administratively.

Thank you.

Uh original to the time, they used to do these columns out of wood, so being exposed to the front there, they will uh they're not taking care of, they will go bad again.

But with the permacas columns, the base is uh uh not a rotted product, you know, it's a composite, so it would last a lot longer and it'll look the same.

I understand your concern, however, um, it is a historic neighborhood, and so uh traditionally would be wood would be the material that you use.

Unfortunately, these days, wood is potentially not as long-lasting or of the same quality as what other columns in this neighborhood might be, but um wood in general exposed to weather needs to be maintained, so with maintenance, it shouldn't be an issue.

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you.

Alright, so I'd like to make uh a motion that we um table this for right for today and allow you to work with the applicant to work with staff to see if they can come up with um something that is more appropriate to the the time and uh the materials of the neighborhood uh with the stipulation that the client agree to extending out um you coming back the next time since the next time is June 20th, I'm saying 26th.

Coming back on June 26th, because that exceeds your 60-day time period.

I'll second that.

And can they have a roll call, please?

Davis, aye.

Garcia, aye regard.

I spiller aye.

Bullerton?

I.

Speeds?

Aye.

And Vasquez.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you for working with us and um please work with OHP on next steps.

Hopefully, y'all can come to an agreement.

Okay, without having thank you.

Thank you.

Great.

Uh next case.

CTAB case number 2026-109-435 Donaldson Avenue.

The applicant's requesting a certificate of appropriateness for approval to install a retaining wall, approximately 14 inches in height along the property's front yard.

Staff does not recommend approval of the request based on findings A and B.

Staff recommends that the applicant utilize landscaping to mitigate any issues related to dirt retention on site.

Commissioners, I'd like to note that the applicant has been non-responsive, so the applicant's not here today.

So staff can answer any questions that you may have.

If there's anything else that you need to have pulled up, I can do that as well.

No, we'll go ahead and move forward with this case.

Um the residents at this address have previously come before HDRC and uh before CTAB.

So they're familiar with the case and um they know that the berm that they're trying to get a retaining wall for uh is a character defining feature within Monticello Park.

Um so I'm fine with moving forward on this case.

Do I have any questions from my colleagues on the left?

Go ahead.

Just a process question.

So have they been non-responsive since the CTAB hearing?

Um so they submitted an application for retaining wall construction and they had some discussion with staff about what is and what isn't um conforming to guidelines.

Uh but since marking this for um CTAP review, um we've tried calling, messaging, email, um, and haven't heard anything.

So given the EVC process for taking this forward, um, it is a complete application, so we do have to bring it forward.

Um, we can't just mark it in complete.

And because you did have contact with them, you know that at least some of those contact channels do work.

So that's correct.

Great.

Any questions?

Any questions online?

I don't this time.

Thank you.

Great.

Um comments.

Um, I'd like to make a motion to approve staff recommendations.

I second it.

Thank you.

Can I have a roll call, please?

Davis, aye.

Garcia?

Aye.

Brigard.

Aye.

Spiller.

Aye.

Bullerton?

Aye.

Pollock?

Aye.

Speeds?

Aye.

And Vasquez.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Commissioners, I just want to note if you're in a habit of coming here on the third Friday of every month, the third Friday of June is Juneteenth, and the city will be closed.

Uh, so we will have CTAB on the fourth Friday uh in June, which will be June the 26th.

So I um we'll probably need to manually update your calendars.

Uh, because if you're stuck on the third Friday or recurring meeting, you'll show up and nobody will be here.

So we'll make sure you know about that.

Great, thank you.

Next month or going forward.

Just for next month, since since the 19th is a holiday.

As a as a board that we are that is committed to history and preservation and commemoration of cultural heritage.

I am glad that the city is continuing its celebration of Juneteenth, and maybe its example will inspire other government entities.

We're adjourned.

Thank you.

I think Karen has a question.

Oh, it's not a question.

I was just gonna say I just checked my Allen calendar, and he did change it.

Um and it and mine says the 26th.

Wonderful, thank you.

Okay, bye everyone.

Have a good one.