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San Diego Audit Committee Meeting - April 11, 2018

Audit CommitteeWednesday, April 11, 2018
BodySan Diego, California
SessionAudit Committee
DateWednesday, April 11, 2018
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2:05

Good morning, everybody.

2:07

Um we will go ahead and start today's meeting.

2:11

And uh for the record, we have all members present.

2:14

Uh Councilmember Scott Sherman, uh Mr.

2:17

Thomas Hebrink, Mr.

2:19

Alan Spencer, and Mr.

2:20

Ricardo Valdivia.

2:22

Good morning.

2:24

Um also present uh up here today are uh uh Eduardo Luna, our city auditor, Priscilla Dugard, our deputy city attorney, Scott Clark, interim, City Comptroller, Lisa Byrne from the IBA's office, and committee consultant, Bruce Williams.

2:41

Um the record of action of our February meeting of the audit committee uh will be approved by unanimous consent unless pulled for discussion.

2:50

And I have not seen I don't see anybody wanting to uh poll for discussion, so that will go into the record and stand approved.

2:59

Uh non agenda public comment on non-agenda items.

3:03

We do have Martha Welch.

3:10

And you have two minutes.

3:14

I've never seen financial audits in this committee ever.

3:17

All the proportion, only on.

3:19

Why?

3:20

We voted for fans and um we voted for that that, but we don't have that right now.

3:28

Um only um uh we don't see everything what we do right now.

3:34

Because um I remember the library have that one time, um the one person um for full time and everyone's part-time and and no m uh uh uh no books because they didn't have that also.

3:48

So that's what's going on.

3:49

You don't tell what's going on because um uh you know uh why are you hiding this stuff?

3:55

I don't know why.

3:56

But you should financial is what we want to know.

3:58

The people want to know what you're going with money.

4:00

You're supposed to auto these these things and you know financial, not performance.

4:04

Maybe you need both of them, but we need both of them, not just one.

4:10

Thank you.

4:10

And for the record for the public, we do a lot of financial auditing and reports here.

4:14

Uh perhaps you um miss those meetings.

4:17

Thank you.

4:18

Um so we will um well first anybody from anybody have any comments before we launch in?

4:27

None?

4:27

Okay.

4:28

Uh and no requests for continuances that I have been asked for.

4:33

So we will go ahead and jump right in.

4:37

Oh I that's right.

4:39

We are going to continue.

4:41

Um and go back to uh staff on item number six.

4:47

Um this is the uh annual report on internal financial control.

4:53

It was just not docketed um correctly, so it'll go back and be up at our next meeting.

5:00

Any comments on that, Priscilla?

5:04

No, I understand staff will redocket it for the next meeting for an action item.

5:07

Okay, it'll be an action item, not information at the next meeting.

5:10

Thank you if you were here for that.

5:12

Sorry.

5:13

Um so back to item number one, our audit recommendation follow-up report and status as of December 31st.

5:23

Good morning.

5:24

My name is Danielle Knight, and I'm the deputy city auditor with the Office of the City Auditor.

5:29

I'm here to present the recommendation follow-up report for the period ending December 31st, 2017.

5:36

But before I start, I would like to thank all the various departments that provided input and status updates for this report.

5:44

We've been using the web portal now for a couple of iterations, and departments are getting becoming more familiar, and we're getting more information on target dates and keeping up to date on that information.

5:58

We appreciate all their efforts.

6:01

The Office of the City Auditor will conduct semi-annual follow-up follow-ups with reporting periods ending June 30 and December 31st of each calendar year.

6:11

For recommendations reported as implemented, city auditor staff reviews documentation to verify that there is sufficient and appropriate evidence to deem the recommendation as implemented.

6:26

We contacted departments to gather recommendation implementation supporting documentation if it was not attached in the system when the departments provided their implemented status.

6:39

We asked all departments with outstanding recommendations to provide current implementation dates.

6:45

We will continue to ask departments to establish target implementation dates for new recommendations, and we will provide information on information on the ones that become past due.

6:57

We also highlight recommendations where it is no longer applicable or the department determined it would not implement.

7:35

As of December 31st, 2017, there were 160 open recommendations identified in 46 audit reports.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Audit Follow-up██████████████████████████████████████████42%
Economic Development██████████10%
Procurement█████████9%
Development Services█████5%
Code Enforcement████4%
Public Comment████4%
Fraud Prevention████4%
Public Works████4%
Water And Wastewater Management███3%
Summary of Proceedings

San Diego Audit Committee Meeting - April 11, 2018

The Audit Committee met on April 11, 2018, with all members present (Councilmember Scott Sherman, Thomas Hebrink, Alan Spencer, and Ricardo Valdivia), along with city auditor Eduardo Luna, deputy city attorney Priscilla Dugard, interim city comptroller Scott Clark, and others. The committee reviewed audit recommendation follow-ups, designated a member for the upcoming audit services RFP, and discussed a performance audit of the Business and Industry Incentives (BII) program, leading to a motion to recommend suspension of the program.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of minutes from the February meeting by unanimous consent.
  • Item #6 (annual report on internal financial control) was continued to the next meeting due to docketing issues.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Martha Welch expressed frustration that the committee does not conduct financial audits, stating: "The people want to know what you're doing with money. You're supposed to audit these things, financial, not performance." She urged the committee to conduct both financial and performance audits. The Chair noted that many financial audits and reports are conducted, and perhaps she missed those meetings.

Discussion Items

  • Audit Recommendation Follow-Up Report (as of December 31, 2017): Presented by Danielle Knight. As of Dec 31, 2017, there were 160 open recommendations across 46 audit reports. Since the last reporting period (June 30, 2017), 45 new recommendations were added, and 42 were implemented or no longer applicable, leaving 118 carrying forward. The committee reviewed departmental statuses:

    • Public Utilities Department: One recommendation on valve maintenance was deemed not applicable because a risk-based approach was found not cost-effective. Tom Howard (Deputy Director) explained the linear maintenance approach is more efficient. The committee voted to drop this recommendation.
    • Chief Operating Officer: Recommendations on pedestrian safety and Vision Zero task force. The task force had not met in nearly a year. Lee Friedman (Office of the Mayor) noted a new position to oversee Vision Zero and a planned meeting in May 2018, but lacked specific target dates for implementation.
    • Code Enforcement (Development Services): Improvements from the Acela system implementation; most recommendations are expected to be completed shortly.
    • Communications Department: Brown Act training video pending feedback; time tracking for enterprise fund departments nearly complete.
    • Development Services: Multiple audits from 2012-2016 reliant on Acela system rollout. Phased implementation ongoing; target completion by 2020.
    • Economic Development: Two audits (community parking districts and business improvement districts) on track for June 2018.
    • Environmental Services: Recommendations on waste hauling system; consultant study delayed; expected to go to committee in May.
    • IBA and Library: Recommendations on equity of resources and matching funds; library reported progress on a new policy and staffing model.
    • Fleet Services: Inventory management recommendation still open; working on handheld devices for efficiency; target end of fiscal year.
    • Office of Homeland Security: Recommendations to update municipal code and administrative regulation; on track for May 2018.
    • Office of the Comptroller: Fraud hotline investigation on IT contract; risk-based sample approach being implemented.
    • Office of the Mayor: Advisory board audit; on track with reallocation of resources.
    • Parks and Recreation: Fraud hotline on permit calculations; training completed; more complex automation recommendation may require extension.
    • Public Works: Citywide contract oversight; implementing virtual project manager software; target December 2018.
    • Purchasing and Contracting: Multiple audits from 2014-2016; long implementation timeline up to 2022 due to Acela contract module rollout. Committee agreed to hold a more detailed discussion on this topic at a future meeting.
    • Real Estate Assets: Policy on rent subsidies on track for June 2018.
    • San Diego Police Department: Pedestrian safety enforcement recommendations; captain reported 10% increase in details and education efforts.
    • Transportation/Stormwater: Reward program for graffiti reporting (Sprand Payne) nearing implementation; undergrounding program on track.
  • Designation of Audit Committee Member for RFP: Kyle Elser presented a timeline to secure an audit firm for FY19-23. The committee needed to designate one member to work with staff on the RFP development. After discussion, a coin flip selected Thomas Hebrink to serve; motion passed unanimously.

  • Performance Audit of Economic Development's Business and Industry Incentives Program: Andy Hannau and Kevin Christensen presented findings revealing significant deficiencies: no tracking system, inadequate documentation, lack of internal controls, and outdated council policy (last updated 2001). Examples included a Vons in Mission Hills receiving incentives without clear justification. The department director, Eric Caldwell, acknowledged the policy needs updating and noted that 80% of staff time is on customer service, not financial incentives. The committee expressed strong concerns about potential abuse and lack of accountability.

  • City Auditor's Annual Activities Report: Eduardo Luna reported that in 2017, the office issued 16 performance audits, 7 hotline investigation reports, 102 recommendations with 100% agreement, and received an award for the street audit. Updates on ongoing audits were provided.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion to drop one recommendation (Public Utilities valve maintenance) as not applicable and to accept the recommendation follow-up report. Approved unanimously.
  • Motion to designate Thomas Hebrink as the audit committee member to participate in the RFP for audit services. Approved unanimously.
  • Motion to accept the BII audit report and forward it to the city council with a recommendation that the mayor temporarily suspend the Business and Industry Incentives program until all recommendations are implemented. Approved unanimously.
  • The committee agreed to schedule a separate, more detailed discussion on Purchasing and Contracting audit recommendations in a future meeting.
  • The committee expressed appreciation for the city auditor's office work and noted the importance of follow-up procedures.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning, everybody. Um we will go ahead and start today's meeting. And uh for the record, we have all members present. Uh Councilmember Scott Sherman, uh Mr. Thomas Hebrink, Mr. Alan Spencer, and Mr. Ricardo Valdivia. Good morning. Um also present uh up here today are uh uh Eduardo Luna, our city auditor, Priscilla Dugard, our deputy city attorney, Scott Clark, interim, City Comptroller, Lisa Byrne from the IBA's office, and committee consultant, Bruce Williams. Um the record of action of our February meeting of the audit committee uh will be approved by unanimous consent unless pulled for discussion. And I have not seen I don't see anybody wanting to uh poll for discussion, so that will go into the record and stand approved. Uh non agenda public comment on non-agenda items. We do have Martha Welch. And you have two minutes. I've never seen financial audits in this committee ever. All the proportion, only on. Why? We voted for fans and um we voted for that that, but we don't have that right now. Um only um uh we don't see everything what we do right now. Because um I remember the library have that one time, um the one person um for full time and everyone's part-time and and no m uh uh uh no books because they didn't have that also. So that's what's going on. You don't tell what's going on because um uh you know uh why are you hiding this stuff? I don't know why. But you should financial is what we want to know. The people want to know what you're going with money. You're supposed to auto these these things and you know financial, not performance. Maybe you need both of them, but we need both of them, not just one. Thank you. And for the record for the public, we do a lot of financial auditing and reports here. Uh perhaps you um miss those meetings. Thank you. Um so we will um well first anybody from anybody have any comments before we launch in? None? Okay. Uh and no requests for continuances that I have been asked for. So we will go ahead and jump right in. Oh I that's right. We are going to continue. Um and go back to uh staff on item number six. Um this is the uh annual report on internal financial control. It was just not docketed um correctly, so it'll go back and be up at our next meeting. Any comments on that, Priscilla? No, I understand staff will redocket it for the next meeting for an action item. Okay, it'll be an action item, not information at the next meeting. Thank you if you were here for that. Sorry. Um so back to item number one, our audit recommendation follow-up report and status as of December 31st. Good morning. My name is Danielle Knight, and I'm the deputy city auditor with the Office of the City Auditor. I'm here to present the recommendation follow-up report for the period ending December 31st, 2017.

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