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Record of Proceedings

Budget Review Committee Hearing – May 9, 2025

Budget Review CommitteeFriday, May 9, 2025
BodySan Diego, California
SessionBudget Review Committee
DateFriday, May 9, 2025
StatusFILED
Video Record
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Transcript — Verbatim
1:03

Good morning.

1:04

If Council Member Moreno can please do a mic check for us, please.

1:09

One two.

1:10

Excellent, thank you.

1:12

Thank you.

3:15

Thank you, Chair Foster.

3:16

As previously mentioned, the budget review committee will convene for one continuous meeting starting Monday, May 5th, 2025 through today, Friday, May 9th, 2025, beginning each day at nine AM.

3:27

The meeting will continue until the entire agenda is complete.

3:30

Department budgets will be heard in the order of the agenda, subject to the chair's discretion.

3:34

Throughout the continuous budget review committee meeting, public comment will be taken during each sub-item.

3:47

This information and instruction is also available on the budget review committee agenda on the city's webpage.

3:51

While the public is allowed to attend the meetings in person, this meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website and council administration.

4:02

Additionally, members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony must enter the virtual queue by raising their hand before the queue closes.

4:23

Members of the public will have one minute per department listed with a maximum of three minutes total.

4:40

Sarah, please call the roll.

4:45

Committee member Campbell.

4:47

Committee member Whitburn.

4:50

Committee member Von Wilbert.

4:52

Committee member Prote Tem Lee.

4:54

Committee Member Campillo?

4:55

Here.

4:56

Committee member Moreno.

4:58

Present.

4:58

Committee member Ilo Rivera.

5:00

And Chair, Committee Member Foster.

5:03

Here.

5:03

And committee member Marino, if you can please provide your virtual declaration at this time.

5:09

Thank you.

5:10

I'm notifying the budget review committee that I will be attending today's meeting remotely due to just causes related to child care needs.

5:18

Pursuant to the brown knock.

5:20

I am disclosing that there is no individual 18 years of age or older present in the room with me.

5:26

And I will update this disclosure if it changes during the course of the meeting.

5:33

Thank you.

5:33

Also attending the meeting today is Bakupatel from the Independent Budget Analyst Office and Charles Modica.

5:39

Assistant City Attorney Michelle Garland from the City Attorney's Office and policy advisor for Mayor Todd Gloria Coda Zeiser.

5:47

If you are in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and place it on the top of the box indicated at the speaker's lecture and at the front of the room.

5:54

Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper meeting management.

5:57

In person testimony will conclude before virtual testimony begins.

6:00

Members of the public can also join the webinar by computer, tablet, or smartphone by accessing the link, which is listed online in the preamble language of the agenda on the city's webpage.

6:09

If you need to participate by telephone, you may do so by dialing 1669-2545252 and inputting webinar ID 16064-9340 pound.

6:18

This information is also available on the agenda and it will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item.

6:24

As noted previously, members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony must enter the virtual queue by raising their hand before the queue closes.

6:30

This queue will close when the last virtual speaker finishes speaking or five minutes after in-person testimony ends, whichever occurs first.

6:37

Please note that if you're watching via City TV 24 or online, there may be delay.

6:41

Please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it is your turn to speak.

6:46

If you wish to speak to a particular item, please wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand to speak by tapping the raise your hand icon, or if you are a call-in participant, by pressing star nine on your cell phone or landline.

6:57

If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered.

7:00

Chair Thank you, Sarah, for reviewing those instructions for the benefit of the public.

7:07

A quorum is now present.

7:09

We will now move to committee members, mayoral staff, city attorney, and independent budget analysts for comments.

7:16

We will start with Councilmember Campillo.

7:19

Thank you, Chair Foster.

7:20

Uh uh the comments this morning uh have nothing to do with the budget.

7:25

Uh I think we all learned yesterday of uh historic selection of the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Leo the 14th, who's an American from Chicago, uh was a minister to Peru, the head of the Augustinian order, and now the leader of the Catholic Church.

7:42

Uh and as an American, uh listening to his words and hearing him announced, obviously there was a sense of civic pride and national pride that an American was chosen uh to lead 1.4 billion Catholics, of which I am one.

7:55

Uh but more inspiring than that was the first sentence out of his mouth, which was peace be with all of you.

8:01

Uh, which for those who are familiar with the gospels know that that is the first phrase that Jesus said after his resurrection to his disciples, uh, that that would be the sentence that came from the first American to be elected Pope was a deeply spiritual moment and a sense of uh what America can bring to the world when it has its moral compass pointing in the right direction.

8:24

And so uh I just wanted to acknowledge that uh this was a really important moment for Catholics, for Americans, for the world, um, and that he used the word peace 11 times in his opening speech to Rome and to the world, and that uh ultimately I know that all my colleagues and everyone who works in the city of San Diego government knows that to create this society that we're looking for, and with this budget, which is very difficult, is to create a society that is peaceful and just uh so uh I just wanted to call attention to that as as a as a Catholic as a San Diegan as an American and say that it really is uh a new day uh in the world, and uh that that would be the first words out of his mouth.

9:06

A really, really important landmark uh for our country, and uh it will inspire me through the rest of my time in civic government and for the rest of my life, really.

9:14

And lastly, of course, I would just point out that he did emphasize that God loves all of us unconditionally, something that motivates me and I know all of us up here uh directly the unconditional dignity of all human beings.

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Fire Safety██████████████14%
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Police Oversight█████████9%
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Legal Services██████6%
Human Resources██████6%
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Summary of Proceedings

Budget Review Committee Hearing – Friday, May 9, 2025

This was the final day of the City of San Diego's continuous budget review committee meetings, which began on May 5, 2025. The committee heard presentations and public testimony on multiple departments' proposed Fiscal Year 2026 budgets, including Fire Rescue, City Attorney, Personnel, and the Commission on Police Practices. The overall budget context includes a significant deficit, requiring department reductions and offsetting cuts. Committee members expressed concerns about specific reductions and identified priorities for restoration in the May revise.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Fire Rescue (Subitem O): Mary Soriano (La Jolla Town Council) urged no cuts, citing summer risks. Lori Saldania criticized SDG&E for fire causes and financial drain. Blair Beekman asked about solar austerity. Marco Espinosa thanked firefighters and supported in-house EMS.
  • City Attorney (Subitem P): Cesar Javier alleged corruption. Joyce Sanyata thanked the office. Blair Beekman urged support for the privacy advisory committee. Madison requested more public health messaging on drugs and hemp.
  • Personnel (Subitem Q): Cesar Javier spoke. Corinne Wilson (MEA) opposed cuts, warning they hurt hiring equity and payroll accuracy. Joyce Sanyata worried about losing the payroll audit specialist.
  • Commission on Police Practices (Subitem R): Cesar Javier asked for equity. Joyce Sanyata thanked the commission for pursuit policy changes. Doug Case (Commission Chair) supported the budget as essential to trust. Catherine Douglas criticized past inefficiency. Blair Beekman hoped for better communication.
  • Additional Departments (Subitem S): Cesar Javier complained about boundary issues. Joyce Sanyata noted missing the City Clerk presentation. Blair Beekman urged open communication across departments.

Discussion Items

Fire Rescue Department

  • Presented by Chief Robert Logan and Michelle Yamamoto. Proposed FY26 General Fund: $377.4 million, 1,400 FTE (down 16.88 FTE). EMS Fund: $137.8 million, 39 FTE. Highlights included new Station 52, mobile command center, partnerships (Toyota, UCSD), and a new wellness center. Budget adjustments include $6.2 million net overtime increase to $50.9 million, restoration of wellness funding ($942,000), and various reductions (e.g., Engine 80 squad, cell services, community resource captain). The IBA noted overtime likely to exceed budget until full staffing (expected FY27 Q4). Councilmembers Von Wilper, Campillo, Moreno, Whitburn, and Ilo Rivera discussed restoring cuts (San Pasqual Valley squad, brush management positions, community relations officer), EMS in-housing, and diversity. Mayor's staff confirmed brush management is a priority but not funded.

City Attorney's Office

  • Presented by City Attorney Heather Ferbert and Asst. City Attorney Jim McNeil. FY26 budget increases $9.8M due to salary costs. A $4.3M reduction (5%) is achieved by shifting $3.4M in positions to non-general fund revenue and keeping vacancies. The office adds a digital evidence system ($101,000) and four gun violence unit FTEs (grant-funded). Councilmembers Ilo Rivera, Von Wilper, and Campillo discussed federal litigation, Your Safe Place funding, gun violence restraining orders, labor enforcement, and the new assistant city attorney position.

Personnel Department

  • Presented by Director David Dalagar. Proposed budget reduces 6 FTE positions, including the entire recruiting team, a payroll audit specialist, and the medical/background program coordinator. The IBA warned of negative impacts on hiring timelines, equity, and ability to implement audit recommendations. Councilmembers Von Wilper praised past improvements but regretted the cuts. Councilmember Ilo Rivera questioned the prioritization, noting reduced outreach would harm equity. Mayor's staff defended that cuts were proposed by the department and accepted.

Commission on Police Practices

  • Presented by Interim Executive Director Bart Meesfeld. FY26 budget is essentially flat, with reductions in contracted legal services ($90,000) and two vacant FTEs. Funds are reallocated to software and legal research tools. The IBA cautioned that remaining $30,000 for legal services may be insufficient. Council President LaCava and Councilmember Von Wilper discussed progress on operating procedures, executive director recruitment, and changes to avoid past issues. Chair Foster clarified investigator roles.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes were taken; all items were informational.
  • Councilmembers committed to submitting budget modification memos by May 21, 2025.
  • The next Budget Review Committee hearing is scheduled for June 6, 2025, at 9 a.m.
  • The Mayor's May Revise is expected on May 14, 2025, incorporating third-quarter financial data.
  • Specific restorations advocated included: brush management positions, fire community relations officer, San Pasqual Valley squad (when budget improves), personnel recruiting team, and in-house EMS exploration.
  • The Council President noted the budget relies on $140 million in new revenue assumptions (trash fee, parking, Measure C) that remain uncertain.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning. If Council Member Moreno can please do a mic check for us, please. One two. Excellent, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chair Foster. As previously mentioned, the budget review committee will convene for one continuous meeting starting Monday, May 5th, 2025 through today, Friday, May 9th, 2025, beginning each day at nine AM. The meeting will continue until the entire agenda is complete. Department budgets will be heard in the order of the agenda, subject to the chair's discretion. Throughout the continuous budget review committee meeting, public comment will be taken during each sub-item. This information and instruction is also available on the budget review committee agenda on the city's webpage. While the public is allowed to attend the meetings in person, this meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website and council administration. Additionally, members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony must enter the virtual queue by raising their hand before the queue closes. Members of the public will have one minute per department listed with a maximum of three minutes total. Sarah, please call the roll. Committee member Campbell. Committee member Whitburn. Committee member Von Wilbert. Committee member Prote Tem Lee. Committee Member Campillo? Here. Committee member Moreno. Present. Committee member Ilo Rivera. And Chair, Committee Member Foster. Here. And committee member Marino, if you can please provide your virtual declaration at this time. Thank you. I'm notifying the budget review committee that I will be attending today's meeting remotely due to just causes related to child care needs. Pursuant to the brown knock. I am disclosing that there is no individual 18 years of age or older present in the room with me. And I will update this disclosure if it changes during the course of the meeting. Thank you. Also attending the meeting today is Bakupatel from the Independent Budget Analyst Office and Charles Modica. Assistant City Attorney Michelle Garland from the City Attorney's Office and policy advisor for Mayor Todd Gloria Coda Zeiser. If you are in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of chambers and place it on the top of the box indicated at the speaker's lecture and at the front of the room. Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper meeting management. In person testimony will conclude before virtual testimony begins. Members of the public can also join the webinar by computer, tablet, or smartphone by accessing the link, which is listed online in the preamble language of the agenda on the city's webpage. If you need to participate by telephone, you may do so by dialing 1669-2545252 and inputting webinar ID 16064-9340 pound. This information is also available on the agenda and it will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item. As noted previously, members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony must enter the virtual queue by raising their hand before the queue closes. This queue will close when the last virtual speaker finishes speaking or five minutes after in-person testimony ends, whichever occurs first. Please note that if you're watching via City TV 24 or online, there may be delay. Please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or computer when it is your turn to speak. If you wish to speak to a particular item, please wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand to speak by tapping the raise your hand icon, or if you are a call-in participant, by pressing star nine on your cell phone or landline. If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered. Chair Thank you, Sarah, for reviewing those instructions for the benefit of the public. A quorum is now present. We will now move to committee members, mayoral staff, city attorney, and independent budget analysts for comments.

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