Good afternoon, everyone.

Welcome to the economic development and intergovernmental relations committee meeting of June 10th, twenty twenty six.

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Thank you, Chair Campio.

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Chair Kempio.

Thank you.

I'll call the meeting to order and call the role.

Vice Chair Lee here.

Councilmember Campbell.

Councilmember Foster.

I am also present and present with us is Amy Lee, Senior Fiscal and Policy Analyst from the Office of the IBA.

Deputy City Attorney Brian Bune from the Office of the City Attorney and Chris Ackerman Avila from Policy Advisor from the Office of Mayor Todd Gloria.

Sarah, let's go on with comment instruction.

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Chair.

Thank you, Sarah for reviewing those instructions on behalf of the on for the benefit of the public.

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Sarah, let's go ahead with non-agenda public comment.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh, beginning with Joy Sunyata.

If you'll please approach the lecture, and you will have two minutes.

And if these individuals will please move to the front of the room at the reserve seats, Max Schmidt, Blair Beekman, allegedly Audra and Admiral.

And Miss Sonata, please begin.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Thank you.

We have a structural budget deficit.

And uh committee member Foster, yes, equity is right there at the top.

So I Googled economics.

It's the study of how people, businesses, and governments make choices to allocate limited resources to satisfy their unlimited wants.

Of course, the key word there is unlimited.

It is essentially the science of decision making, trading off one option for another.

I never thought of it as a science, which surprised me, but I'm gonna Google that and learn about the science of economics.

So we need an officially adopted plan to return to structural balance.

Being the dividing force behind our physical deficits now.

So I threw this together this morning.

I hope it made some sense.

I'm gonna really be focused on the structural budget deficit as we move forward after you know after June.

And I thank you so much for listening and working on this with me.

Love to all.

Thank you for your testimony.

Max Schmidt.

Um this is non-junda public comment.

Correct.

He will have two minutes, and there's a clock right in front of the lecture in here that you can manage your time.

I just didn't know if we were on item one, because uh I didn't.

Okay, so um, as the clock says, okay, the clock is finally started working.

All right, so um, I just wanted to say that there is a problem of uh Masonic telepaths like Raul A.

Campillo, who says he's a moderate uh liberal, but he just plays moderate, he's progressive, and that they all split the vote five to four between moderates, but they're all progressives, and they all support the new world order, meaning that they're all possessed by demons and want to create a one-world government without tariffs, and if you wave a Trump flag for hundreds of hours on the corner, then a bunch of Freemason telepaths will come up and try to like troll you telepathically, and you might try a 5150 me for this, like you did in the past.

But Raleigh Campillo this morning came up to me and he got me to have a telepathic conversation with him in his head where he used neurolinguistic programming to say out loud, how's it going, Max?

Well, and my brain heard, uh you're going to hell.

And then I literally said back inside my own head, no Paul, you're going to hell.

Or no, Rawl, you're going to hell.

And then we had a uh argument telepathically back and forth.

And don't you dare 5150 me because I'm not crazy.

Down with the occult, I'm not lying, I'm not crazy.

I'm a I'm a homeless patriot getting abused in San Diego, and the San Diego City Council is perpetuating it, and it's disgusting.

And I'm here to draw awareness to my name.

My name is Maximilian Schmidt.

Um, my birth date is 4191, and there are psychos, complete utter psychos, like Raleigh Campillo, who's done human sacrifices and cannibalism in a Sonic Lodge and doesn't drive a car and teleports, who is getting me to have arguments with him back and forth in front of in my head, and then they'll take me to the cycle and say, I'm crazy.

I'm not crazy.

I just love Trump.

I think he's the greatest president of all time.

He should put him out rushmore, and I'm not kidding.

I think liberals and progressives are disgusting.

Down with the new world order, down with the new world order.

Thank you.

Our next speaker is Blair Beekman.

Hi, Blair Beekman.

Um thank you.

Uh, as we simply still have budget choices and options here in June, it's been my understanding.

San Diego city government can work in the next month to possibly end the current flock contract if city government staff and STPD can create something of an RLP process, I think it is called, and to find a cheaper ALPR vendor in the next few months.

This can offer some budget savings of possibly $200,000 or more.

But if San Diego City government cannot find a cheaper, well-principled ALPR vendor and contract in the next two-month time frame, San Diego will have to stay with Flock.

The RLP process is a well-established constructive way to leave Flock at this time.

I'm surprised this concept and other options were not morally openly more openly addressed at city council yesterday.

Um there is simply a continuing political will in the past year in San Diego to leave Flock.

I've been describing for months now how both the city of Oakland and the County of Al and its county of Alameda are creating an 18-month step-by-step process of full community input and best practices to leave Flock for a new better principled ALPR vendor.

This is simply an important good model to refer to at this time.

If we can we have to continue to have ALPRs in San Diego, can we in the least please have ongoing community dialogue and conversations and how to formally leave the ALPR vendor flock?

It is from this, we can then also begin a more meaningful, clear, systematic approach in how we can review, address, and reduce overall ALPR and surveillance tech use in local San Diego neighborhoods each year.

And from this, I feel we can still develop a very satisfying results with technology in local uh neighborhoods and with public safety practices.

A reminder that this is my understanding that uh that is my understanding that formal council person uh Monica Montgomery Step, who helped facilitate the initial new ALPR purchases a few years ago.

Had always felt that the numbers of these new ALPR purchases could eventually be reduced.

Um, we have good holistic goals we can work on that I hope uh we plan for.

Thank you.

Thank you, allegedly, Audra.

You guys are interesting, you don't pay attention to the people that come up and talk because I mean why would you?

Um, and the way you're saying now you need a quorum.

I'll take that as a win.

I mean, Henry, you weren't here, but they were having no quorum doing the budget stuff and kind of in your face type of stuff.

And now all of a sudden, course correcting is happening, and that's great because that can always happen along the way in life.

And it's interesting though, way Joy was saying we have limited resources but unlimited ones.

You guys have unlimited resources, and it comes from the people.

And it's interesting because any other corporation, I was just telling the the county this that they would be shut down if they ran business like you guys did, but you always come back to the people for more money, and it's like a child going to their parent and saying that they would like full cost recovery for raising them.

That's what you guys do.

You constantly come back to us for more money.

We fund everything, we fund the permits that you guys put upon us, we have to pay for the permits that you put upon us, and when you want full cost recovery for the crappy services that you guys provide, we're the ones to pick up the pieces.

So you rob us coming and going.

And it's just sad because it's like it it doesn't have to be that way.

We could actually have a community that is thriving.

But unfortunately, like you were talking about yesterday about our communities.

The f community is fractured because of things that you guys do.

You pit us against each other as a left and a right type of a thing.

Hate this side, hate that side, and there's no way for the community to come together when we're, you know, on opposing sides thinking that we shouldn't be joining together.

And it's sad because you guys are the ones facilitating all of this.

Yeah, we're the ones that are fighting each other, and we should be holding you guys accountable and making sure that you're good stewards of our money because people are just trying to survive right now.

Again, you see it outside of this building every day.

And yet, you know, you guys continue to ask for more and more and more money.

And so when is enough gonna be enough.

Thank you.

And our final speaker here is Admiral.

And Admiral, before I begin your time, I've no noticed that you wrote consent agenda deed.

Were you wishing to speak to a consent agenda item?

Or would you like to provide non-agenda public comment?

Okay, okay, then we're gonna I'll call you up when we get to consent agenda.

Okay, thank you.

So that concludes testimony here in the committee room.

So I'll begin the five-minute timer for all those in the virtual queue to indicate if they wish to provide non-agenda public comment at this time.

We currently have five hands raised and we will begin testimony with Hector.

Please unmute and begin.

What we got here is uh Gloria Bill 2.0 with the original Gloria Bill, Bill Walton called him out a few years ago with all the homeless in the bubble apart.

And now the homeless are coming back into Babola Park.

There's five of them that was over there a couple days ago.

They're coming back in his Gloria Bill.

And Gloria had the balls to while he was in France for two weeks, looking at the budget.

All these guys from San Diego were in France for two weeks with a sister city thing, and then he like throws the budget.

It was the bait and switch the other way, like the trash, but it was the other way where he he you know took out everything.

We're gonna attend all these programs, and everyone's going, oh shit.

And then they kind of gave some of them back when originally he wanted to take them back a little bit, but he's figuring out how can I do this and get them out without causing a lot of trouble.

Well, I'll just take them all out.

Everyone will freak out, and then we'll whittle some of them back in.

That's the reverse bait and switch like they did on the trash thing.

So I say the young people gotta rise up and kick all these old guys out and take over the city.

Just kick Todd out.

He doesn't even attend the meetings only once in a blue moon.

He hides in the back.

Next time he's there, put him up on a lifeguard tower on the on the diocese with the guys at the council meeting.

We can like throw water balloons at him or something, but just put them up there in a lifeguard tower so people can talk directly to them instead of off to the side hiding there with his.

He's got three bodyguards.

Does he think someone's gonna choke him or something?

Come on.

Anyway, the young guy's gotta rise up and kick all the old guys out and go for it, man.

Because it's you're gonna do that.

Thank you for your comment.

Your time has expired.

Our next speaker is Terry Ann Skelly.

Please unmute and begin.

Good afternoon.

EDNIR committee members, Chair Campillo.

My name is Terry Ann Skelly.

I'm a planning group member and a parent, and I've appreciated the committee's earlier attention to supporting young adults in their journey to meaningful employment through the city's internship programs.

Since summer has arrived, it'd be great to have a staff presentation regarding these programs, the number of young adults served, and what satisfaction survey says about their experience.

I continue to be very uneasy about the young adult population, especially since the recent nationwide highly respected 2025 moderating the future came out.

Among other items, it stated that cannabis use, whether it's over the past 12 months or the past 30 days or daily use, remain near or at recent high levels ever recorded among adults in the age groups of 19 to 30 year olds.

And with it comes an increase of the diagnosis of cannabis use disorder.

Cannabis use disorder is a mental health condition in which you have issues fulfilling responsibilities at work, school, or home due to the cannabis use, and its use causes problems in relationships, and it makes worse ongoing physical and psychological problems like depression or anxiety.

So thanks to you and the city for your internship internships programs and for not adding more marijuana businesses to our neighborhoods.

And next step to support young adults would be to remove marijuana billboards from our neighborhoods.

Thank you for hearing my concerns this afternoon.

Thank you.

Our next speaker is Becky Rapp.

Please unmute and begin.

Good afternoon.

My name is Becky Rapp, and I urge this committee to publicly oppose California Assembly Bill 2697, which would allow marijuana storefronts to operate drive-through sales.

If this bill becomes law, it will further normalize and commercialize marijuana use, increase convenience and accessibility, and most importantly, raises significant public safety concerns, including impaired driving.

But one of the most troubling aspects of this legislation is what it fails to address.

AB 2697 contains no safeguards regarding children being present in vehicles during marijuana purchases.

An adult could drive through a pot shop with children sitting in the back seat while purchasing high potency THC products.

There are no protections, no restrictions, and no acknowledgement of the message this sends to young people.

We continue hearing from public health experts about rising youth mental health challenges, accidental poisonings, cannabis use disorder, normalization of drug use among children and teens.

Children's hospital data has shown dramatic increases in cannabis-related pediatric exposures, and behavioral health providers continue to warn about the risks associated with today's high potent cannabis products.

Yet Sacramento is considering a policy that treats marijuana like a fast food item or a cup of coffee.

That seems contradictory at a time when state and local governments are investing millions of dollars in prevention programs, behavioral health services, homelessness response, substance abuse treatment, and public safety initiatives.

I urge this committee to voice opposition to AB 697 and ask San Diego state legislators to reject this bill.

Thank you.

Thank you.

The five-minute timer has concluded with two hands remaining in the virtual queue.

We will take no other callers beyond these remaining two hands raised.

Francine Maxwell, please unmute and begin.

Afternoon, Francine Maxwell, Southeastern San Diego resident.

I'm hoping that um this committee will consider doing a hearing about the CPP.

Um in 2022 and 2023, there were talks about a shared database.

So when people are sharing that such and such is just so expensive, back in 22 to 23, we had a CPP staffer, Elena Conde, who is the executive assistant to the executive director of the CPP when we had interims, when we had real executive directors, when we had transitional executive directors, we were in talks with Panda, personnel department, the police department, and CPP about a shared database and how much the shared cost would be and things like that.

Everyone wants to reinvent the will when we have documentation that says we knew that we would not be up and standing for over five years.

Not just because the meet and confer, but the shared database so that our complaints are everybody knows about the complaint.

The CPP would know about the complaint, the police department would know about the plate complaint, and the city council would know because you're in charge of the CPP.

Again, we need to bring back out the measure and make sure everyone reads it.

But we did a lot of work in the transitional years when we had a former CRB executive director be the interim director.

So please um consider a hearing on the economics that can be saved with the shared database with the oversight, the police department, personnel, HR, everybody.

Thank you so much for allowing me to speak.

Thank you for your testimony.

And the final hand in our queue today is Judy Strang.

Please unmute and begin.

Good afternoon, EDNIR.

I'm speaking to the intergovernmental relations half of your title, and I appreciate your service on this committee.

Regarding a piece of legislation that's making its way through, it's AB 655.

I'm sorry, AB 455, regarding creating and supporting a policy that would bring second hand and third-hand smoke protections into any new build going on here in California that is partially funded or solely function funded by the state.

This is because second hand and third hand smoke has been placed on the California Prop 65 list, which as you know requires a warning if those chemicals on the list exist in any business or development going on.

The presentation I heard this morning came from San Diego State Center for Tobacco and Environment, and they indicated that a survey they conducted showed that as of this year, 98% of new bills that the state has been providing funding for have already put in place smoke free ordinances.

This policy, the state completes adopting it, would begin in January of next year.

And I would appreciate your consideration of AB 455 and ask our local legislators if they would please support it as it makes its way.

This would make our housing so much more healthy for our families and particularly for vulnerable populations who live in multi-unit housing.

Thank you for your consideration.

Thank you for your comment.

And Chair, this concludes non-agenda public comment.

Thank you to members of the public for their participation.

We'll now move to committee members, mayoral staff, city attorney, IBA comment seeing none.

Do we have any requests for continuances?

Seeing none, we will now dispense with the approval of the consent agenda.

Any items to poll.

Seeing none, Sarah, please proceed with the public comment.

Thank you, Chair Campio.

The consent agenda portion of public comment is now open.

It contains items numbers one through four.

Item number one, approval of committee minutes of May 13th, 2026.

Item number two, compensation agreement with Civic San Diego for the construction of the B Street Pedestrian Corridor Project.

Item number three, First Amendment of software license and Maintenance Agreement with REI systems.

And item number four, six agreement to disposition and development agreement with SDEC LLC for the San Diego Energy Equity Campus at the Valencia Business Park.

Each speaker will have one minute per item, not to exceed a maximum of three minutes.

We will begin testimony with Joyce and Yada.

You have indicated you wish to speak to items two, three, and four.

So I will place three minutes on the clock.

All right, number two, street pedestrian corridor project.

A compensation is about two million resources of the RTTF and the ropes.

On the ropes, uh, I'm quoting this.

As long as the funds are programmed and available in the annual approval of the ropes.

I don't know, for some reason that statement seemed vague because it was repeated again, saying they had been approved.

So I was a little unclear on that, but no impact to the general fund.

So that's very, very good.

Uh number three, which is the first amendment uh for software with REI.

The EOC report shows underrepresentation of African Americans and female in management and financial and professional.

On the workforce report, six hundred and one total employees of the just some things I pulled out.

149 are white, 351 are Asian.

So those are really astronomical figures.

Uh on the workforce report at the bottom of page two.

There was supposed to be seven pages, but it it ended at page two.

So I was disappointed that they hadn't included those extra five pages.

I don't know why.

So thank you on that.

On number four, which is the uh sixth amendment for the DDA with the uh with the company S D E E C.

Uh, I like this San Diego energy equity campus.

Doesn't it have a wonderful ring to it?

So uh, and that's Valencia, a park.

So under the EOC, it's a they're exempt because they're small, and the workforce agreement.

Thank you, thank you.

They had all seven pages there, but they only have a few employees, so that was very impressive.

Uh, what a challenging history there is on those one through five amendments.

Amazing to read that, especially continued uncertainty in the financial markets.

Isn't that continuing?

And read that history of what this project has faced.

So uh committee member Foster, this is district number four.

So I'm really excited that this project goes through completion for you and all your good people.

So thank you for listening and love to all.

Thank you.

Our next speaker is Admiral and Admiral.

You have indicated you wish to speak to consent item number four.

So I will place one minute on the clock.

Where's the timer?

Right in front of you, right?

If you look right here.

I'd see why I do this.

Okay, ready.

All right, good afternoon, Chair Committee members and fellows and the coming on the streets of the Admiral.

I'm a proud veteran and resident of the 91915 area.

That's uh district one.

Um here to uh talk about some economic development that can move our city forward.

I'm gonna talk about the arts and crafts.

Okay, while you're approving key items today, like the sixth amendment for the San Diego Energy Equity Campus at the Valencia Business Park.

Um, let's make sure that these projects deliver maximum impact for our people, especially uh for our students.

I used to be a parent uh volunteer, so this will be a big for me.

Arts and crafts aren't just hobbies, they're powerful economic drivers that pair perfectly with forward-thinking projects like the energy campus together.

That could create real opportunity.

So the three key takeaways that I want to say is uh hands-on career training, the pathways to good, uh paving local jobs, and equity and community leadership.

Thank you.

This does conclude your time.

Thank you for your comment.

Our next speaker is allegedly Audra.

And would you like to switch back?

Well, uh, I mean, I'll take three minutes.

I'm not gonna talk on the minutes.

Um I feel like you guys spend more on time on the toilet than you do in these meetings, paying attention.

You guys are on your phone, you don't really care what people say.

It's just like get it over with, we gotta get out of here.

We 30 minutes is too long.

Anywho, so for your pedestrian corridor.

Um, it's nice to provide great spaces to go and walk and enjoy that, but when you are doing it, depriving people and pushing towards getting us out of our cars, that's the problem.

Because you are acting like you're providing something when really you're taking away something and pushing a new way to live or be, and that is very dangerous, and people need to see that because you guys wrap things up in a beautiful package, acting like we're doing this to better your life.

No, you're doing it because it's a agenda that is coming down from higher echelons than you guys are at, and you maybe you don't realize that you're a puppet for that, or maybe you do and you're happy about it and you're getting paid some money.

Um with the software agreements, you know, I don't understand why you guys don't see it as a problem when there's a monopoly on these type of software programs that are being provided to the government.

And of course, on the surface, it seems very nice because you're having centralized data, and it's like we're gonna be able to do work easily, but on the same token, when that is weaponized, it will actually take the government down.

Um, and this particular entity REI is not uh it's employee owned, so it's not owned by BlackRock and Vanguard, but that doesn't mean that it's joint partnerships and whatnot are not involved in that, and that data going to these people who want a monopoly on everything uh is very dangerous.

And you guys sit here and talk about ALPR and that data being shared, but I think there is a bigger picture that nobody is really focusing on, and that is extremely egregious because it's like you're putting all of us at risk.

And I mean, what would you want every like me to have a monopoly on your data?

Would you trust that?

No, you wouldn't.

But yet we're giving everyone's data and all of your guys', you know, extremely uh important infrastructure up to the hands of other people, and that's just dangerous.

Um, and then as far as these energy campuses go, uh along with that danger, there's the danger of AI and all of these data centers and the fact that doesn't matter how much renewable energy you guys want to come and provide, they're taking our resources.

Water, fresh water is being drained because of where these data centers are going.

Like a 64-mile data center is going in in Utah.

That is terrifying to think about where it's right next to water sources, and we don't have enough power on the power grid to even sustain these.

And so when you're talking about renewable energy, that's like swatting out of fly.

I mean, it's like I I just don't understand how you guys can't see the forest through trees.

And maybe you do, and maybe you're pushing us towards this, but you need to think about your own families because you're putting them in that same boat.

Thank you.

Our next speaker is Maximilian Schmidt.

And you have indicated you wish to speak to all four items, so you will have a total of three minutes to speak to the consent agenda.

Hi, for hello.

Uh, for consent agenda item number one, approval of committee minutes.

I think that we need to keep out lazy language.

What is lazy language?

Um, the f for example, the description, the following items are requests for committee actions and are considered to be routine.

Um, I underlined and are considered to be routine as langu lazy language, and I want to grill down on these progressive New World Order demon-possessed satanic Freemasons to take out the lazy language of the consent agenda because it's poor work.

Uh shame on you.

And also, people may say I'm crazy because I'm like mentally ill or something, and I don't know anything about mind control.

I know hallmark and mind control is they make it afraid for you to breathe and make you afraid of the sound of your breath.

So I know what I'm talking about, and I'll stop here until the next item.

Thank you for your testimony.

And the final speaker here in the committee room on the consent agenda is Blair Beekman.

And Mr.

Beekman, you've indicated you wish to speak to items one and two, so I will place two minutes on the clock for you to manage.

Hi, Blair Beacon.

Good stuff, uh, Max.

Thank you.

That was that was you're getting better.

Thank you.

Um, Blair Beekman.

Um, as always, I want to speak first to item two.

As always with pedestrian and bicycle projects like this.

We have to take the steps to be more open, clear, and accountable with the technology and data collection that will be surrounding these projects.

I can't stress enough the importance that as city council elected officials and city government staff, you have to make the sincere efforts to begin to better consider ways and have more openly and regularly discuss with the everyday community.

The growing amounts of biometric technology that is being used and will be used in our future pedestrian, bicycle, and public transit projects.

And from this, to also note, I feel we simply need an open, accountable, full community conversation about STPD procedures, protocols, and guidelines with the feature of ALPR use in real time.

Um, I hope we can find good connections with these uh uh agenda items with these subjects and these issues.

Uh thank you.

I also wanted to comment on uh meeting minutes process.

Um you had an item about uh San Diego tourism, and uh I'm sure that relates to downtown tourism.

Um, I think if we are practicing a concepts of the good fight and what we can be doing with technology uh as a full community process, we got halfway there yesterday.

How can we be inviting all parts of the community to really discuss the future of our technology use?

I think I tried to present ways we can really be doing that.

I think the city of Oakland has created awesome models and examples that we can be understanding better, and that I think can bring the community together to make really important choices, and we make when we make those good technology choices, that's what brings people to San Diego.

They want to see that good stuff, they want to see community working together towards a a holistic whole, you know, a good future, and they'll they'll come for that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This concludes testimony here in the committee room.

So beginning the five-minute timer for those in the virtual queue to indicate if they wish to provide comment on the consent agenda.

We will begin with Hector.

Please unmute, and if you can please indicate which item or items you wish to speak to.

I'd like to speak to two and four.

All right, two minutes, please begin.

Number two, I wouldn't waste any more money doing that kind of stuff.

I would take the money and move out of the building you're in now and move out to Mission Valley more accessible and get a lease because eventually you got to tear down all the buildings you're sitting in now, and it's gonna take a while, but it'll be a lot more accessible to the general public to go like the building department now, has free parking, a two-story building, and it's really convenient to go there in Mission Valley.

And the leases are really cheap in Mission Valley.

A lot of those guys are going bankrupt that own those offices.

So just rent something so we get it together.

And then on all the technology stuff, well, anything south of eight is good for me.

You could fund it, whatever they got going.

But the technology, it's gonna make it better.

More technology we have, it's gonna make it better for the rapid deportation.

Once Trump gets serious about deporting everybody, he's gonna go to the banks, he's gonna limit bank accounts to guys, know your customer that are illegal, they're gonna do the medical things, the food stamp programs, all the different kind of programs.

So the more technology are linked up to all that, it's easier it's gonna be fine to deport people.

Just to get them.

Ice can come in.

Ice doesn't need any badges, they don't need stinking badges.

They'll just be ice and they'll do it.

And protect them.

But it's soon as it's gonna get real pretty quick when Trump starts stops the war, whatever.

He's gonna turn his attention here, and he does things fast, man.

He did not like the election results in the mayor of LA.

Total fraud.

The Democrats are total fraud with the election, man.

It's just sickening.

So anyway.

Thank you.

Your time has expired.

Our next speaker is Judy Strang.

Please unmute and indicate which item or items you wish to speak to.

I'd like to speak to item one regarding the meeting notes from last month.

One minute, please begin.

Thank you.

I just want to correct the bill that I'm interested in.

We spoke to it last month, and that bill number is AB 1695.

And as an aside, thank you for an opportunity to call in for my workplace.

It's always a little difficult if you can't find your glasses at your workplace when you get called.

So thank you for your patience while I speak to you about AB 1695.

Again, this bill would come into play in January of 2027 regarding anything that the state assist in any way in financing would be smoke free.

This is very much an equitable issue because lower income individuals who are especially at risk for the effects of second and third-hand smoke have fewer housing options and cannot afford to move if they experience smoke intrusion in their lives.

This would be a great help for affordable housing that the state subsidizes.

Again, that's AB 1695.

Thank you.

And Chair, this concludes testimony on consent agenda items one through four.

Thank you to all the members for your participation on these items.

We'll now turn it over to committee members for questions, comments, and entertain a motion on this consent agenda.

And I will kick us off by making a motion on the consent agenda.

Do we have a second?

I see they were tied with hands, but Vice Chair Lee actually had a two up.

So I'll give him the second.

Yes.

Council Member Campbell.

Yes.

Councilmember Foster?

Yes.

And I'm a yes.

Thank you, everyone.

Let's move on to a j information agenda item number five.

Uh Sarah, please introduce the item.

Thank you, Chair Campio.

Item number five is bridge to home notice of funding availability.

Round seven, informational update.

And if you're watching on City TV, the live stream online and you'd like to dial in to speak, please call 1669-2545252.

And when prompted, input webinar ID 160 340 6084 pound.

Chair.

Thank you.

We're very happy to have Christy Marcella, Deputy Director Economic Development.

Michelle Morano, our assistant deputy director of economic development here for this item.

Please go ahead.

Thanks for the introduction, Chair Campillo, members of the committee.

It's our pleasure to present the bridge to home round seven informational update today.

We'll need about 12 minutes for the presentation.

Very good.

This informational item discusses the recommended projects resulting from the seventh round of the bridge to home notice of funding availability.

And before highlighting these recommended projects, we'll provide a brief overview of the Bridge to Home Program and its accomplishments since its launch in 2021.

The overall goal of the bridge to home program is to increase the new construction, acquisition, and preservation of housing that will provide long-term affordability.

So 55 years or longer to interview to individuals and families at or below 80% of the area median income.

Additional objectives for the selection criteria for uh for projects are listed on this slide, and they include leveraging city funding and using it efficiently while optimizing unit production, increasing permanent housing for individuals experiencing or at risk of homelessness, prioritizing housing in state-designated moderate, high and highest resource opportunity areas, assisting with growth and experience for small and emerging local firms, and supporting opportunities for affordable child care within affordable housing.

Between May 2021 and December 2025, there have been six earlier bridge to home funding rounds to support affordable housing communities located throughout the city, from Rancho Bernardo, shown on the left through to San Yasidro on the right.

The Bridge to Home program has proven to be a valuable tool for allocating gap financing to help meet critical affordable housing needs.

Round one through six have resulted in 24 City Council approved loan agreements, and there are two remaining loan agreements under negotiation from round six.

Altogether, these 26 loans will provide a total of over 122 million dollars in affordable housing funding, creating 2,528 total apartments, including 2,049 affordable rental homes, of which 407 are permanent housing with supportive services.

Round seven was issued in February 2026, offering $16.5 million in city funding.

10 applications requesting over $55 million were received in April of 2026.

The city utilized the same evaluation process used in previous rounds, including a financial feasibility analysis by Kaiser Marston Associates, and an evaluation panel of city staff with expertise in affordable housing, community planning, real estate, homelessness services, successor agency, and community development.

Three loans totaling $16.5 million are recommended to create 430 affordable rental homes, including 128 for those considered at risk of homelessness who earn 40% of or less of the area median income.

One project is in the state's designated high resource area.

These areas are typically have an underrepresentation of affordable housing development but offer high levels of opportunities and resources.

Another project is reserved for senior households.

I'll now provide a summary overview of the three recommended projects in the following slides.

The fourth and Brooks Senior Apartments is developed by a partnership of Hampstead Development Partners LLC and Hampstead Ascend Partners and Trestle Build.

The site is located on Fourth Avenue in the Hillcrest neighborhood of the Uptown Community Plan Area in Council District 3.

It is in a state designated high resource area and within walking distance of transit stops, grocery stores, medical centers, retail, and restaurants.

The new eight-story development will have 98 apartments for senior households earning 30 to 60% of the area median income, including a mix of studio, one, and two bedroom apartments.

It will also include ground floor retail space.

50% of the units will be designated as accessible to meet the needs of senior residents, and 30 units are for households at seven at 40% area median income or less, and again, these households are considered at risk of homelessness.

The apartment community will incorporate energy efficient design, high performance building systems and lighting and smart controls.

The tables on this slide show the projected sources and uses of funding.

The $7.5 million city loan provides approximately $75,000 per apartment.

And when leveraged with multiple financing sources, the total project costs for residential and commercial uses are approximately $63 million.

Please note that for this and all other recommended projects, the sources and uses of funds are based on estimates and assumptions in the NOFA submittal.

The information may change during the negotiation process and will be finalized at closing.

Additional details will be shared when we bring each individual affordable loan agreement back to City Council for consideration.

Polk Avenue Housing is developed by a firm housing group partnering with Compass for Affordable Housing.

The site is located on San Diego Unified School District owned property on Polk Avenue in the City Heights Mid-City community in Council District 9.

It is in a transit priority area and near the City Heights Transit Plaza, a library, park, medical clinic, pharmacy, grocery store, and other commercial and retail uses.

The new construction affordable apartment community consists of one five-story residential building with 267 apartments, affordable to 30 to 100% area median income families.

It features a mix of one, two, three, and four bedroom apartments for small and large families.

There will be three manager units.

The project includes 192 apartments at 30 to 60% of the area median income, and then 70 of these are at 40% area median income or less.

There are also 75 missing middle workforce housing apartments at 80% to 100% area median income, which will be available to school district teachers and staff.

A portion of the former central elementary school buildings will be rehabilitated for new administrative offices and classrooms for the district's Trace School for Adults with Disabilities.

Polk Avenue Housing also includes the pedestrian and bicycle promenade, nonprofit spaces, event space, a commercial shared kitchen, a permanent rehearsal and performance space for the Fern Street Circus, and a separate five-story parking structure.

The development includes energy efficient building systems, natural ventilation, a local planting pallet, solar panels, and all electric appliances and systems.

These tables show the projected sources and uses.

The $5 million city loan provides approximately $18,000 per apartment, and when leveraged with multiple financing sources, the total project costs are approximately 172 million.

Teralta South is developed by Wakeland Housing and Development Corporation in partnership with City Thinkers Inc.

The site is located on Fairmont Avenue in the City Heights Mid City Community Plan Area in Council District 9.

The site is adjacent to the Teralta Affordable Apartments completed by Wakeland in February of 2026.

Nearby amenities include the Copley Price Family YMCA, Teralta Park, City Heights Park, a grocery store, schools, a clinic, pharmacy, library, and bus stops for three transit routes.

Teralta South will be a seven-story, two-elevator building, including a variety of studio, one, two, and three bedroom apartments for households at 30 to 60% of the area median income.

It will include a community room, a computer lab, two podium level courtyards, a play area, bike storage, and parking.

The project aims for lead certification with an all-electric building, rooftop solar, highly efficient mechanical systems and insulation, planted terraces, and gardens will filter stormwater.

These tables show the projected sources and uses.

The $4 million city loan provides approximately $60,000 per apartment, and when leveraged with multiple financing sources, the total project costs are approximately $54 million.

City staff will begin the process of negotiating with the development teams and finalizing the loan terms and proposed financing in the coming months.

Development teams will proceed with best efforts to timely secured tax credits and other financing sources.

Typical city financing is at 3% simple interest payable from residual receipts.

It includes 55-year affordability covenants recorded on the property and will be monitored on an annual basis.

The three round seven loan agreements will be presented to City Council for consideration in 2026.

With approval, these projects will be docketed for city council prior to state tax credit and other financing application deadlines.

And EDD staff will continue to offer detailed briefings with council members and the independent budget analyst in advance of the City Council presentation to discuss the financial components of the proposed loan agreements.

Staff is analyzing the potential timing of releasing around eight of Bridge to Home while identifying funds that will be available based on budget priorities and timeline considerations.

And this completes our presentation.

We have members of the development teams here and available virtually, and we're happy to answer any questions that you may have.

Thank you.

Wonderful, thank you.

Let's go to public comment.

Thank you, Chair.

The public comment period for item number five is now open.

We have received four speaker slips here in the committee room, so we will begin testimony with Joyce and Yada.

Each speaker will have two minutes to speak to item five, and Ms.

And Miss Sanyata, you will be followed by Maximilian Schmidt, allegedly Audra and Blair Beekman.

First of all, I'm glad that developers, some of the developers are here.

That's really great.

And I want you to know how much you are appreciated.

Have we heard anything but kudos?

Through the ridge for the bridge to home through the years.

I mean, it's totally, totally excellent.

And now we're on round seven.

So uh Director Bibler, one request I had for you.

I've been asking this of others too, and I did hear you mention one of the unit costs on one of the projects, the recommended projects, which all look good.

But could we please have that printed that unit cost printed like at the end of those photos and everything where you have those nice lists?

I really want to be able to follow through on those unit numbers.

And I know they're buried in some of the fine detail, but put that out there in front of our eyes so we can see that it's getting larger, the cost per unit.

So let's see, what else?

The list of permanent resources are awesome.

Uh, you know, the banks and the all the financial institutions.

I think there were six to eight different ones on these projects.

Thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart that you're hanging in there.

These projects are so complicated, and and I'll just finish with this.

That can you imagine a tenant new tenant going up to that unit door and opening the door and entering their new unit.

This is a miracle for them, and I just can't tell you how exciting it is to see that this bridge to home project is so successful.

So thank you for listening and love to all.

Thank you.

Our next speaker is Maximilian Schmidt.

Is this a part of my three total of three minutes?

No, this is the next item.

So you have two minutes.

Two minutes for item number five.

Okay.

Thank you.

Uh-huh.

Um, hi.

I just wanted to um speak about the construction, which is item number five.

Um, I'm sorry, item number two.

Item number five.

We're on item number five now.

Okay, so not the construction, the bridge to home notice of funding about availability.

Correct.

Okay, yes.

Concerning um concerning that item, um, we need to figure out funding.

How to actually do a good job with funding because it's been a total disgrace.

And the bridge to home notice of funding availability, round seven informational update lacks crucial information, and I just want to say I am on to the occult.

I am on to the new world order.

I know that it's all just an occult layout, a Freemason layout, where there's actually free Masons who are participating, and if you look into this, it's all nonsense, it's all gibberish.

We're living in an occult, um, an occult world where they have construction sites that will um literally um like be uh make synchronized noises to your um actions.

And I'm just saying that we're we're talking about funding.

Meanwhile, there's direct harassment going on is the is the point I'm trying to make.

Where we're talking about funding, I mean, it is kind of like Alan Iverson saying we're talking about practice.

We're talking about funding here, and we should be talking about assault going on in the city, and at the same time, if you look into this, it's a cult gibberish and occult nonsense.

If you literally look into item number five, which is what we're talking about, bridge to home notice of funding availability, round seven informational update to economic development by Christian Biebler.

It's nonsense, it's a cult nonsense.

And I think that for anyone who's a progressive liberal.

Thank you for your comment.

Allegedly, Audra.

I mean, I'd like to see the analytics of this success.

I mean, you guys follow your policy, so you're providing solutions.

But I mean, just yesterday when Jeannie came in and was expressing her own experience with uh these type of programs where you're or you know contracts where you're getting in and they're supposed to be providing this affordable housing.

There is a lot of, you know, developers that are engaging in fraud and the people that are managing these entities.

I mean, you know, I'm not even so sure that there's not cameras in these places.

That's something that people have uh with uh uh express concern about them being found in their vents.

Um sounds crazy, but it's like these types of things happen, and these people will, you know, uh and and where is the you know chain of command that is making sure that this stuff doesn't happen, that once this gets out of your hands, you give that funding out, these people develop these these uh projects.

But who goes in and makes sure that you know there is affordable housing for these people, that they're not just getting these deed restricted properties, getting the tax credits and going ahead and and renting them at fair market value.

That does happen.

That has happened in San Diego, and it's like, you know, you guys kind of just drop the ball by going, Well, we did our part, we gave them this this funding, and that's like as much as we do.

But on the surface, you're sitting here telling people that this is a bridge to home.

And if that's a fallacy, that is extremely egregious to be telling people that where they're hoping when they see these buildings being built as they're walking by pushing a cart or you know, just looking for food, that that may be a place where they're gonna be able to lay their head down at night, and it doesn't have to be outside this building on cement.

And so you guys need to do a better job of making sure that when you're saying that these are the things that you're going to promise that you fucking follow through with it because people are suffering because you guys are so negligent.

Thank you.

Blair Beekman.

Hi, thank you, Blair Beekman.

Uh, this was an interesting item for myself.

Um, it was good to learn about.

Um, it mostly focuses on middle income, moderate housing uh income levels, and um I found it interesting.

Uh I I tend to work towards uh very low and extremely low housing income ideas and needs more, so that's more of my place.

And uh so, but it was interesting learning about this item.

I'm really interested in the future of what middle income housing can mean for our local communities and um in California.

Um, so uh to me, uh those sort of housing models offer uh more flexibility in how we can make choices uh with housing and how it can serve there's just a tendency that people of moderate income levels are just more open to uh accepting people from lower income levels into their neighborhood for our future.

I think we're all trying to address mixed income uh ideas, a broader range of mixed income ideas that moderate income housing uh can can address better.

And I hope we don't fear those future conversations.

We're so locked in on market rate housing and keeping people excluded and separated that we're really avoiding and missing I think some really good flexible choices about the future of our housing that are more democratic and more uh caring.

Um it's ways to build community and and just uh camaraderie between each other.

That uh this item I think uh is trying to address in a way.

I mean, in the very basic sense, it's it's doing its job and it's doing an important job, and thank you.

I hope we can be considering uh the depth of what moderate income housing can be working towards in our future.

And uh I think those are some of the ways to consider it.

And uh I think it's hopeful and caring, and it isn't a communist part.

Well, it is technically, but that's the caring is is important.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And our final speaker for item number five is Admiral.

And I will place two minutes on the clock.

Okay.

Good afternoon again.

Okay.

So I want to talk about the 55 year part.

Um I I agree with it, but the 3% I'm I'm skeptical about.

So there's no public confirmation of a flat 3% interest rate on the overall financing or ground these payments to the school district.

Uh what's more likely is I'm hearing people too also say that the developers often tell low interest financing stacks.

So, like, for example, tax exempt bonds, uh, equity bridge to home gap loans that could bring the effective uh blended rates down significantly.

Uh some public loans or subsidies in these deals uh carry very low rates, zero to three percent, but the total development costs per unit is still sky high.

And that's true because we always talk about like each unit being expensive and how we're gonna afford it and the subsidies to get those units is just crazy.

So the sky high in San Diego is commonly like 500K to 800K per unit.

The district gets around uh I mean gets grounded payments from a firm housing, but the exact rate return uh is it highlighted as 3% in the term sheet.

So uh the 55 year affordability is legit and enforces the 3%.

I mean, is enforceable, excuse me.

The 3% is probably marketing spin on subsidized financing layers, and it helps make uh project penciled out for the developer, but taxpayers have to flip the bill, and the public are still on the hook for the uh big up from subsidies.

Uh tax credits and opportunities costs.

Thank you.

Thank you for your testimony.

And this concludes comment here in the committee room and seeing no hands up in the virtual queue for item five.

This concludes public testimony.

Thank you to members of the public for your participation on this issue.

And I will that's an information item.

No motion is needed.

And I'll kick us off.

First of all, thank you to the staff for bringing forward another strong round of bridge-to-home recommendations.

Uh, obviously, this is just the informational component, and at some point in the uh at City Council, uh, there will be uh a full recommendation.

Um obviously the demand for affordable housing remains clear.

Uh I recognize some of the um rather the the depth of affordability in many of these projects.

Fourth and Brooks, we're gonna see 30 uh 30 at risk under or equal to 40% area median income units for Polk Avenue housing, 70 less than or equal to 40% AMI, and then for Teralta South, 28 under 40% AMI.

Um, for folks at home who uh aren't entirely clear what that necessarily means uh for family of four uh at well, the AMI for our region is about 130,000 dollars, and so uh we are going to be at allowing folks who are at the beginning of their careers, people who are uh work or who are not making very much money, 40, 50, 60,000 for their family of three or four, depending on the formula, um, folks like that getting this type of housing.

Uh and in particular, I was encouraged to see the uh fourth and Brooks senior apartments being for seniors, um, folks who generally are not working or if they are have um uh jobs that are not paying high salaries, living on a fixed income, uh things things like that.

Those are people we are helping with these recommendations.

So I really appreciate uh the focus we have from our staff on that.

Uh one question that I bring up uh oftentimes at committee and full council is the um our desire to meet our AFFH goals and looking at the uh neighborhoods, the census tracks that these are going into uh for Fourth and Brooks and Polk Avenue and Charlotte South.

Are those um uh moderate resource?

Are those high resource areas, low resource areas that we're gonna be supporting housing in?

Fourth and Brooks is in a high resource area.

Okay.

Polk Avenue and Taralta are those moderate or those low resource areas.

Those are low resource areas, okay.

Uh obviously uh we have uh uh legal obligations uh that need us to focus our affordable uh units uh rather um rent restricted units in higher resource areas, but I'm encouraged at Fourth and Brooks is uh certainly the communities around Polk Avenue and Teralta South are also in need of housing to be very clear.

Uh but I appreciate that we are having one recommended project in a higher resource area.

Um I did have a quick question about some of the different types of sources of funding.

I I've not heard of green vistas loan uh loans before.

Can you describe what that is?

I've heard of some of the other types, whether it's obviously housing committee, housing commission, uh, Cal HFA, but Green Vistas, that's the first I've heard of this one.

We'll ask a member of the development team to come up and respond to that question.

Okay, thank you.

Yes, Forth and Brooks.

Hi there, this is uh Greg Gossard, um, president of the Hampstead Companies.

Um the Green Vistas Loan is a private foundation that is loaning those funds.

Um they are a Mission Hills-based uh nonprofit that sold an affordable housing asset, and they have escrowed those funds to build um more affordable housing in the city center.

Uh so it's uh it comes from a private foundation.

It will be, yeah, I think it's a 40 year loan at uh also 3%.

Okay, that's uh first I'm hearing of them.

That sounds like a pretty unique vehicle.

I haven't heard of anything like that.

Is that uh it's pretty rare?

It's pretty rare.

Yeah, they uh you know they had one asset, they were a single asset uh faith-based entity that sold their um existing affordable housing asset, and they're uh, you know, once that funding is expended, you know, it's it's it's gone.

Got it.

Um there is another, you know, uh another group in San Diego that is uh eyeing doing something similar.

Uh so you may see more of these projects coming forth, but uh as of right now, it's a pretty limited um resource.

All right.

Well, congratulations on getting that.

It is a loan, right?

So they will get the money back over time and then reinvest in something else.

That's correct.

Okay, all right.

Uh appreciate that very much.

Um, uh I have no further questions of this.

I do appreciate that there's um, you know, things like uh outdoor courtyards, other amenities, so that these projects are our uh comfortable living spaces.

Uh and of course, just really appreciate the senior housing that's going there.

Uh, that's always at the top of mind as well.

Um, seeing any questions or comments from my colleagues, um, none at this time.

Um, thank you very much for your presentation and thank you for the applicants for being here and online uh to answer questions.

Uh and with uh being an information item, there is no motion needed.

Uh that brings us to the end of our agenda today.

So we will adjourn the economic development and intergovernmental relations committee meeting to our next regularly scheduled meeting, Wednesday, July 8th, 2026, 2 p.m.

Thank you.

Have a great rest of your day.