All right, good morning.

And welcome to the Rules Committee meeting of June twenty-fourth, twenty twenty-six.

I'm Joel Cava, Council Member for District One, Chair of the Committee.

Our committees liaison Sarah Jordan will go over instructions for today's meeting.

Sarah, Chair Lakava.

Well, members of the public are able to attend the meeting in person.

This meeting is being televised and live streamed on the city's website, and council administration will continue to make arrangements for the public to comment using the Zoom webinar platform.

Members of the public who wish to provide virtual testimony must enter the virtual queue by raising their hand before the virtual queue closes.

The queue will close after the last virtual speaker finishes speaking, or five minutes after in-person testimony ends, whichever occurs first.

This will allow for better meeting management between the two platforms and ensure the committee is able to manage and conduct city business.

We appreciate the public's cooperation.

Chair Lacaba.

All right, thank you, Sarah.

I will now call the Rules Committee meeting of Wednesday, June 24th, 2026 to order and call the role.

Vice Chair, Council President Pro Tem Kent Lee, Councilmember Raoul Campillo, Council Member Vivian Moreno, and Councilmember Sean Elo Rivera.

I am present.

Also attending the meeting today is Jillian Andalina with the office of the independent budget analyst.

Kathy Steinman with the office of the city attorney, Matt Yeah, with the office of Mayor Tag Loria, and Abby Reuters committee consultant.

With that, Sarah, please continue with public comment instructions.

Thank you, Chair.

If you are in person, please complete a speaker slip located at the entrance of the committee room and place it on the top of the box indicated at the table at the front of the room.

Please do so in a timely manner to ensure proper meeting management in-person testimony will conclude before virtual testimony begins, and members of the public can also join the webinar by computer, tablet, or smartphone by accessing the link which is listed online in the preamble language of the agenda on the city's webpage.

If you need to participate by telephone, you may do so by dialing one six six nine two five four five two five two inputting webinar ID 160-439-9420 pound.

This information is also available on the agenda and it will appear on the screen during the public comment period for each agenda item.

Please note that if you are watching via City TV twenty-four or online, there may be delay.

Please participate via the audio on your phone and mute your TV or your computer when it is your turn to speak.

If you wish to speak to a particular item, please wait for that item to be called and then raise your hand to speak by tapping the raise your hand icon if you're a Zoom participant, or if you're calling participant by pressing star nine on your phone.

If you raise your hand during a non-comment period, your hand will be lowered.

Chair.

Alright, thank you, Sarah, for reviewing those instructions.

For the benefit of the public, a quorum is now present.

We will now take up not agenda public comment.

The council members respect and appreciate the public's input and are fully committed to protecting every participant's free speech rights at council and committee meetings.

Sarah, please proceed with non-agenda public comment.

Is an opportunity for members of the public to comment on items that are not on the agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of this committee, and each speaker will have two minutes as a reminder.

If you need to participate by telephone, you may dial 1669-2545252, inputting webinar ID 160439-9420 pound.

We've received one speaker slip here in the committee room, so we will begin with in-person testimony.

Max Schmidt, please approach the lecture and you will have two minutes.

Hi, I've been homeless in San Diego, Los Angeles, and a few months in Phoenix for um exactly a year and six months, and during that time I've been followed around by people who um make weird noises that will um this is um that that weird noises that torture me.

For example, they will make um squishing noises or clapping noises that um will make my genitalia uh feel like it's going to ejaculate when completely not erect.

I think the internet calls this um sensitizing someone to noises and then torturing them.

Um they will also make noises that make my um testicles tingle as if I'm stricken completely with fear.

Um, and these people follow me around um downtown San Diego everywhere I go, so I can never get any peace.

I can never get um any freedom.

And they also um at the risk, the reason they do this type of torture is because it's makes you sound mentally ill when you talk about it.

So at the risk of sounding mentally ill, the people who follow me around for the past year and a half torturing me, even in the homeless shelter.

Uh um, I'm not gonna at the risk of sounding mentally ill, they also speak random bizarre um gibberish that um is the equivalent to being forced to wear wear headphones nonstop throughout the day that um constantly say bizarre, weird gibberish, and while that's happening, make squishy and clapping noises that um torture physically torture you.

And I just wanted to say that I'm being mentally and physically tortured everywhere I go, and that every human deserves um freedom.

Every human deserves respect.

And for this to be happening in America is disgusting.

And this is what communist countries do to dissidents.

And I know that if if um these people could kill me and get away with it, they would.

But they're instead trying to get me to turn to drugs or kill myself, and I've experienced all this sober and s of sound mind.

Thank you for your testimony.

That concludes comment here in the committee room.

So I will begin the five-minute timer for all those in the virtual queue to indicate if they wish to provide non-agenda public comment.

As a reminder, each speaker will have two minutes.

We currently have seven hands raised and we will begin with Becky Rapp.

Please unmute and begin.

Good morning.