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Sandy City Council Meeting – May 13, 2025: Budget Presentations, Don Gerdy Recognition, and Public Comment

Meeting PortalTuesday, May 13, 2025
BodySandy, Utah
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DateTuesday, May 13, 2025
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2:28

We've got about a minute left, but I'm gonna go ahead and start the recording so our online participants can join the meeting.

2:57

I know.

3:24

I have five fifteen on a couple of clocks, so we'll go ahead and start this evening's council meeting.

3:30

Uh it is May thirteenth, twenty twenty-five.

3:33

I feel like I'm echoing.

3:38

Okay.

3:39

It becomes an issue.

3:40

Somebody raise your hand and we'll pause it to get it fixed.

3:47

Uh we have a special recognition honoring Don Gertie's life and contributions to Sandy City.

3:52

Uh members of the Gertie family will offer a prayer and lead us in the pledge this evening.

3:57

And so right now I'd like to invite Diane Eyman to the podium to offer the prayer, and Matthew Gertie, who will lead us in the pledge.

4:21

We're very grateful, Father, for the beautiful city that we live in.

5:00

We pray, Father, as they go throughout the agenda tonight, and as they discuss the various topics, that they will be able to plan those things that are and discuss those things that are needed, and so that our community can be strong, that it can be a safe place, and that it can be a welcoming place.

5:15

Heavenly Father, we invite thy spirit to be here, and that it will be a meeting that feelings and thoughts can be expressed, and that they can be done so in a way that is appropriate and in a way that is effective.

5:36

We love the Heavenly Father and offer this prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

5:44

Well, everyone please stand and repeat the Pledge of Allegiance after me.

5:49

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under Test.

6:03

Thank you.

6:08

I want to thank uh Don's daughter Diane and his grandson uh Matthew for volunteering to give the prayer and pledge tonight.

6:15

Thank you.

6:17

We'll go ahead and move into introductions, starting with our council executive director.

6:22

Thank you, madam chair.

6:23

Uh, my name is Dustin.

6:24

I'm with the uh city council office.

6:26

There are a couple other council staff members in the back of the room, Justin Sorensen and Liz Carrio.

6:33

My name's Tracy, I'm counsel for the council.

6:37

Chris Edwards with the council office.

6:39

I'm Zach Robinson, District 3.

6:41

Ryan Meekham, district one.

6:43

Brooke D'Souza at large, Alison Stroud, District 2.

6:47

Cindy Sharkey at large.

6:50

Mayor Monica Sultansky, special welcome to the Gertie family and the committee members here tonight.

6:57

Hi, I'm Shane Pace, City Administrator.

7:00

And Lynn Pay, City Attorney.

7:03

And Councilmember Houseman is online.

7:06

Madam Chair, she was online, but I just saw her drop off.

7:10

She might be having some connectivity issues.

7:12

Okay, I will expect her.

7:13

And Councilmember DeKaiser has been excused this evening.

7:16

So that moves us into the agenda.

7:19

The general citizen comment period is to happen no earlier than 6 p.m.

7:23

And so at a moment after 6 p.m.

7:26

when there's either a break in the agenda items or after an agenda item, we'll go ahead and come back to public comment.

7:34

If you do want to make public comment here this evening, please go in the back.

7:38

There is a blue card you can fill out, and then you can bring those up here to our executive director Justin Fratto.

7:43

If you're online, we'll you'll go ahead and raise your hand at that time and we'll call on you after the in-house public comments have been taken.

7:53

So item number one is the special recognition by the Sandy City Council of Don Gertie honoring his life, service, and contributions to Sandy.

8:01

So I'll go ahead and turn the time over now to Council Members Robinson and Stroud who will lead us in the post posthumous recognition.

8:28

So that you can hear me in the back with us, right?

8:30

Just want to make sure.

8:31

Perfect.

8:32

Um so uh myself and Allison are the current liaisons uh to the CDBG committee, and uh we both have had the opportunity to work very closely with your family member Don and our friend Don.

8:46

And so tonight we felt it was appropriate to recognize him for the work that he did put forward uh in Sandy, put a long time into the city, and so it was a really easy decision for us to bring this special recognition forward, and we appreciate that you're all here to help us uh with this really cool event.

9:06

So we'd like to invit invite the family up if you'd like to come up, you're more than welcome to join us about up here.

9:12

You don't have a choice.

9:14

So Alison's gonna make you.

9:16

I was gonna give you the choice.

9:20

We'll have everybody kind of sneak over this way.

9:30

So tonight we're going to present Don's family, just everybody knows we're gonna present Don's family with a resolution of recognition.

9:39

I'm gonna take the first half and then it's really long.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety█████████████████████████████29%
Public Engagement█████████████████17%
Budget Equity Analysis████████████12%
Economic Development████████8%
Procedural██████6%
Community Development Block Grant██████6%
Public Works█████5%
Parks and Recreation████4%
Fiscal Sustainability████4%
Summary of Proceedings

Sandy City Council Meeting – May 13, 2025

The Sandy City Council met on Tuesday, May 13, 2025, at 5:15 PM in City Hall and online. The meeting included a special recognition for Don Gerdy, an informational interview for a CDBG committee appointment, and detailed budget presentations from the Police, Fire, Parks and Recreation, Administration, and Economic Development departments for Fiscal Year 2025-26. Council members expressed strong differences with the administration over the proposed increase in communications spending, particularly the Every Door Direct newsletter, amid cuts to other departments and positions. The meeting adjourned at 8:53 PM.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of April 15, 2025 Draft Minutes (Item 4, 25-134): Approved unanimously by voice vote.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Kirk Petersen: Expressed strong support for employee retention, stating all his dealings with city staff have been great. He opposed subsidizing the golf course, preferring funds go to parks. He praised the Fire Department for professional service during a personal emergency and suggested reducing printed mailers in favor of the city website.
  • Tim Gibson: Followed up on previous comments about what he termed “inappropriate conduct” by a council member, asking whether the behavior was acceptable or if accountability would come. He requested clarification on what would be done.

Special Recognition: Don Gerdy

  • Council Members Robinson and Stroud presented a Resolution of Recognition honoring Don Gerdy’s 25+ years of service on the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Committee. Key facts: He helped direct approximately $10.5 million in CDBG funding to projects including the Sandy Senior Center. The resolution was adopted unanimously (6-0). Council Member Robinson announced plans to bring forward a future resolution creating a “Don Gerdy Award for Volunteerism.”

Informational Item: CDBG Committee Appointment

  • Council Members Stroud and Robinson recommended Paul Mismaque to serve as a regular member of the CDBG Committee. Mismaque introduced himself, highlighting his nonprofit and grant experience. Council members asked about teamwork and resource allocation. No vote was taken; the appointment will be considered at a future meeting.

Discussion Items: Department Budget Presentations for FY 2025-26

Police Department (Chief Greg Severson)

  • Proposed a 3% COLA increase, three sergeant reclassifications (including one from a retiring sergeant to staff a new cover shift), an additional crossing guard, and $740,000 for fleet replacement (8 marked, 3 unmarked vehicles). Eliminated the animal shelter manager position (savings of $6,522) due to redundancy. Noted future challenges: employee compensation, AI and technology integration, hostile vehicle mitigation (estimated $200,000 for mobile barricades), and facility space. Council members praised the department’s data-driven approach and use of drones and AI. Council Member Houseman questioned why the eliminated position wasn’t replaced with a requested animal services officer; Chief Severson explained the shelter manager is a different role.
  • Key Outcomes: Council requested additional information on fleet O&M costs. No final budget decisions made.

Fire Department (Chief Ryan McConaghie)

  • Requested ongoing increases for overtime, ambulance billing, and Medicaid assessment; one-time funds for PPE, hazmat equipment, a type 6 brush engine (partially funded by $200k in wildland deployment reimbursements), and the final payment on a ladder truck lease. Noted future needs: staffing restructure, uniform allowance increase, training travel, and software/maintenance contracts. Chief emphasized that cuts were minimal (about 0.1-0.2%) and necessary to support competitive compensation. Council Member Stroud asked about the departmental fleet replacement schedule; Chief confirmed this is a slim year, with larger purchases expected in future years.
  • Key Outcomes: No votes taken; discussion only.

Parks and Recreation (Director Dan Medina)

  • Presented ongoing requests for seasonal pay, fertilizer, and one-time items for capital equipment. The Alta Canyon Sports Center (ACSC) rebuild budget was adjusted for an anticipated closure on August 16, 2025. Deputy CAO Martin Jensen announced the Larry H. Miller Family Foundation committed at least $1 million to the ACSC project. Council Member Houseman recommended returning to 2024 spending levels for events and consolidating the two Historic Sandy festivals into one (Heritage Festival) to save approximately $30,467, citing conflicting messaging when cutting positions while increasing event spending. Council Member D'Sousa echoed concerns about prioritizing events over fleet and core services.
  • Key Outcomes: Council asked for details on the playground replacement location and uniform costs. No votes.

Administration, Mayor’s Office, and Communications (Deputy CAO Martin Jensen and Communications Director Barb Smith)

  • The Communications budget proposed a $136,771 increase for the Every Door Direct printed newsletter, based on a survey that showed 57% of residents preferred printed newsletters. Council members strongly criticized the increase, noting it came while positions were being cut in other departments. Council Member Robinson stated the survey violated the council’s survey approval ordinance. Council Member Sharkey questioned the value of the increased spending compared to the cuts. Council Member Houseman argued that the $136,000 could fund a needed animal services position. CAO Shane Pace defended the newsletter as essential for reaching all residents, particularly those without internet access, and noted the cost was in line with neighboring cities ($3.97 per household per year). The administration offered to negotiate on cost and frequency.
  • Key Outcomes: Council requested copies of both 2024 and 2025 surveys. No decisions made; further discussions expected. Council also noted the overall increase in Administration/CAO/Communications combined budgets of about $160,000 vs. cuts elsewhere.

Economic Development (Director Kasey Dunlavy)

  • Highlighted a third consecutive year of budget cuts (3% administrative reduction) due to expiring project areas. Proposed one-time funding for an Economic Development Strategic Plan and an RDA participation agreement for Red Sky. Noted ongoing work on a potential small business microloan program, which would be brought back for approval. No new general fund requests; budget reductions were achieved through reallocation and cuts to memberships and professional services.
  • Key Outcomes: No votes. Council Member Stroud requested a future presentation on property and sales tax calculations, forecasting, and information on the certified tax rate versus current rates.

Standing Reports

  • Agenda Planning Calendar (Council Director Dustin Fratto): Upcoming items include Comcast Rise grant presentation, budget presentations from Public Utilities, Public Works, Administrative Services, Legal, Courts, and Non-departmental next week; a first reading on ticket policy amendments; and a possible closed session.
  • Council Member Business: Members reported on attendance at various community events, including a UDOT 9400 South study open house, Wetlands Dedication, Food Truck Night, and an SEG stakeholders meeting.
  • Mayor’s Report: Announced a Wildland Urban Interface community event at Bell Canyon on Saturday. Shared a story of heroism: Public Works supervisor John Butcher rescued an elderly couple from a house fire before fire crews arrived.
  • CAO Report: Shane Pace noted the retirement of Facilities Manager Dave Goldgart and invited council to his farewell.
  • Council Cash: Council Director Fratto awarded “Council Cash” to the budget services team for their work on the budget balancing tool.

Key Outcomes

  • The Consent Calendar (April 15 minutes) was approved unanimously.
  • A resolution honoring Don Gerdy was adopted 6-0.
  • No final budget votes were taken; discussion will continue at the May 20 meeting when additional departments present.
  • Council requested a follow-up presentation from finance on property and sales tax calculations and forecasts.
  • The communications budget and newsletter issue will be revisited with additional survey data and potential alternatives.

Meeting Transcript

We've got about a minute left, but I'm gonna go ahead and start the recording so our online participants can join the meeting. I know. I have five fifteen on a couple of clocks, so we'll go ahead and start this evening's council meeting. Uh it is May thirteenth, twenty twenty-five. I feel like I'm echoing. Okay. It becomes an issue. Somebody raise your hand and we'll pause it to get it fixed. Uh we have a special recognition honoring Don Gertie's life and contributions to Sandy City. Uh members of the Gertie family will offer a prayer and lead us in the pledge this evening. And so right now I'd like to invite Diane Eyman to the podium to offer the prayer, and Matthew Gertie, who will lead us in the pledge. We're very grateful, Father, for the beautiful city that we live in. We pray, Father, as they go throughout the agenda tonight, and as they discuss the various topics, that they will be able to plan those things that are and discuss those things that are needed, and so that our community can be strong, that it can be a safe place, and that it can be a welcoming place. Heavenly Father, we invite thy spirit to be here, and that it will be a meeting that feelings and thoughts can be expressed, and that they can be done so in a way that is appropriate and in a way that is effective. We love the Heavenly Father and offer this prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. Well, everyone please stand and repeat the Pledge of Allegiance after me. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under Test. Thank you. I want to thank uh Don's daughter Diane and his grandson uh Matthew for volunteering to give the prayer and pledge tonight. Thank you. We'll go ahead and move into introductions, starting with our council executive director. Thank you, madam chair. Uh, my name is Dustin. I'm with the uh city council office. There are a couple other council staff members in the back of the room, Justin Sorensen and Liz Carrio. My name's Tracy, I'm counsel for the council. Chris Edwards with the council office. I'm Zach Robinson, District 3. Ryan Meekham, district one. Brooke D'Souza at large, Alison Stroud, District 2. Cindy Sharkey at large. Mayor Monica Sultansky, special welcome to the Gertie family and the committee members here tonight. Hi, I'm Shane Pace, City Administrator. And Lynn Pay, City Attorney. And Councilmember Houseman is online. Madam Chair, she was online, but I just saw her drop off. She might be having some connectivity issues. Okay, I will expect her. And Councilmember DeKaiser has been excused this evening. So that moves us into the agenda. The general citizen comment period is to happen no earlier than 6 p.m. And so at a moment after 6 p.m. when there's either a break in the agenda items or after an agenda item, we'll go ahead and come back to public comment. If you do want to make public comment here this evening, please go in the back. There is a blue card you can fill out, and then you can bring those up here to our executive director Justin Fratto. If you're online, we'll you'll go ahead and raise your hand at that time and we'll call on you after the in-house public comments have been taken. So item number one is the special recognition by the Sandy City Council of Don Gertie honoring his life, service, and contributions to Sandy. So I'll go ahead and turn the time over now to Council Members Robinson and Stroud who will lead us in the post posthumous recognition. So that you can hear me in the back with us, right? Just want to make sure.

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