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Sandy City Planning Commission Meeting - September 18, 2025

Meeting PortalThursday, September 18, 2025
BodySandy, Utah
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DateThursday, September 18, 2025
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0:00

Yeah, sure, that's good.

0:01

I got that.

0:02

I'm going to go to the same thing.

0:03

We ready to start at 6.15, Mike.

0:06

Ready to start at 6.15.

0:07

I'm I'm ready to go.

0:09

Okay.

0:10

Things are ready to queue as soon as we're hit that magical number.

0:21

I don't think anything comes.

0:22

Okay, 615.

0:24

Let's go with that.

0:26

All right.

0:26

Uh well, we'd like to welcome those who uh are in attendance here virtually as uh as well as physically uh for tonight's meeting, and uh we will begin um by stating the pledge allegiance.

0:44

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands undergo individual with liberty and justice for all okay.

1:02

So I am uh Dave Bromley and I'll be chairing the meeting this evening, and we'll start off over here with uh Dave for your introduction to the planning commission.

1:09

David Hart, Danny Schoenfeld, Ron Mortimer, Steve Brigley.

1:16

And uh Brian, if you could introduce staff.

1:19

Yeah, I'm Brian McKeuston, the assistant community development director.

1:22

To my right is Mike Wilcox, the planning director.

1:25

Down here is Sarah Stringham, a planner.

1:28

Uh Ivan Hooper is our transportation engineer, and then Aisha Malia Talua is our planning commission secretary.

1:38

Okay.

1:38

I think Darion might be joining us online.

1:41

Uh maybe, maybe not.

1:43

But I think that's her plan.

1:45

Okay, thanks, Brian.

1:46

Uh with regards to how the meeting will proceed tonight.

1:49

Uh there are two items on the agenda, and uh we'll first have uh staffer introduce those items, and then um uh if the uh applicant will uh have the opportunity to add to the presentation afterwards the staff will uh then uh close out uh their comments and and we will open the meeting up to public comment.

2:12

Um and um we will then close public comment and open it up for planning commission deliberation and and uh motions as applicable.

2:23

And uh so we'll proceed uh with the first item now.

2:27

It is the uh Fortner annexation.

2:30

If you're okay with it, I'll just stay right here in my seat.

2:33

Uh this is the Fortner annexation.

2:35

The applicant is not gonna be in attendance tonight.

2:39

Uh he's already told me beforehand, but the request is to annex three particular parcels that are hatched out on this uh vicinity map.

2:47

We have properties located at 8564 south and 8590 south 10th east.

2:54

Uh there are two properties that have the same address of 8564, one has a home and the other one is vacant.

3:00

So this annexation is just over an acre in size.

3:03

Uh the zoning in the county is A1.

3:07

You'll see on that uh area highlighted in green.

3:11

Uh typically when we've annexed these properties with the A1 zone, it's an R110, so 10,000 square foot lot minimums.

3:18

Uh the one on the corner at 8590 East is actually an existing duplex that has two uh single families living in that uh home.

3:27

And so Sandy has zoning as R210 on the west and on the east side of that property, and so because it's already an existing duplex, we're gonna recommend an R210 zone uh just so it's a legal conforming use instead of creating a legal non-conforming use.

3:44

And so staff would recommend that the planning commission forward a positive recommendation on this particular annexation.

3:52

Okay, thanks, Brian.

3:54

Um is there anyone here who would like to speak to this item?

4:04

Seeing none, uh Mike, is there anyone online?

4:10

Yes, if you're joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak to this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time.

4:18

I see one hand raised, and that's Mr.

4:20

Steve Van Maren.

4:22

If you will go ahead and unmute yourself.

4:28

Thank you, Mike.

4:29

Good afternoon, everybody.

4:30

Steve Van Marin, Draper resident.

4:33

Uh sorry.

4:43

Sorry, Mr.

4:44

Van Mare.

4:44

It looks like you unmute yourself again and uh we'll try this again.

4:54

I I just want to report we don't have any video out here in the field.

5:00

As in camera video.

5:03

You have we had a shared screen for a while, but no video.

5:08

Thank you for time.

5:15

Okay.

5:17

We'll look into that technical difficulty.

5:20

Must be because they didn't want to see Malia Aisha's shocked face when Brian said her full name.

5:31

Oh no, she's leaving.

5:32

Okay, we'll try to take care of that, Steve.

5:34

Thanks.

5:43

Okay, but so we we will uh no other comment, Mike, right?

5:47

I'm seeing no other hands raised.

5:49

Okay.

5:50

So uh we will close this item to public comment and open up uh to the planning commission for any discussion or motion.

5:58

I'm ready for a motion.

6:00

Great.

6:01

I'll make a motion that it is recommended that the planning commission send a positive recommendation to the city council for the Fortner annexation to be approved and zoned R110 and R210 based upon the following four findings.

6:16

I'll second David Hart.

6:20

Yes, Danny Schoenfeld, yes, Ron Mortimer, yes, Steve Wrigley, yes.

6:24

Dave Bromley, yes, this motion carries.

6:28

Okay.

6:30

We will move on to the next one.

6:32

I believe Sarah's up uh for empowering you adult daycare.

6:40

Thank you, um Planning Commission.

6:43

Uh this is our item um for uh conditional use permit.

6:48

Uh Winsl Burton is the applicant, he is not able to be here.

6:52

Um, his business partner uh Jane should be online, I believe.

6:56

Uh but the property is located at 1139 South 700 East, and the request is um to have adult daycare uh for people with developmental disabilities uh in a portion of the existing building.

7:11

Um this is a conditional use within the professional office zone.

7:16

Um so I think we will hear from Jane in just a minute.

7:23

I will mention um that we did receive an email today, and that was emailed to everyone on the planning commission.

7:28

Um, just a comment about um the use in support of it.

7:32

I also did receive a phone call as well from Jill Maxwell.

7:38

Um, and she thinks that it is a good idea and is in favor of the project as well.

7:43

So I just wanted to mention that those two comments uh were received today, and so that's why they are not included in the staff report.

7:51

We went to the site a few uh weeks ago.

7:54

Correct, yes, and you guys visited the uh planning commission visited the site several weeks ago um because it was recently rezoned to the PO zone.

8:04

Um and this is I'll just kind of talk through a little bit and then Jane can add anything uh in just a second, I think, as we're getting some technical difficulties figured out.

8:14

Um we had have a picture of the space.

8:17

Um they're planning on using uh the basement level of the um of the building.

8:25

Um planning to start out with two to three people with hopes to go up to 15 uh in transportation.

8:31

They're planning on doing uh all the transportation pickup and drop off uh with a van, and so they wouldn't uh they're not planning on having um clients come to be dropped off and picked up um by other people.

8:44

So is Jane on line?

8:47

She would like to add anything.

8:48

Yes, uh Jane Taofa, you may unmute yourself and present your item to the planning commission.

9:00

Hello?

9:01

Yes, we can hear you.

9:04

Um so I just want to say good evening, commissioners.

9:08

Thank you.

9:09

Um, like they say, my name is Jane Talpa.

9:12

I'm here on behalf of empiring you.

9:14

Thank you for the opportunity, and I apologize.

9:17

I was hoping to attend in person, but my son's youth football dinner is tonight, so I gotta do my team mom duties there.

9:25

So I apologize, but thank you guys for being so understanding.

9:29

Um, like Sarah did say it is an adult day program.

9:33

We will be serving a we will start off with two to three individuals with developmental disabilities and behavioral needs.

9:41

Go we hope to expand to um about 15 to 20.

9:46

If possible, if not, we're happy with um uh whatever amount that we do get.

10:00

Our services will be Medicaid waiver funded, and everyone there will be a person-centered approach that we will be helping individuals gain independence, building different skills and connect with the Sandy community.

10:16

In mind, um, the rooms are also um separated and uh designated for different activities to and reach um these individuals' lives when they're um attending the day program.

10:33

We have a sensory room, a music room, exercise room, arts and crafts.

10:38

Um the list can go on is pretty open, it's welcoming.

10:44

Um and I believe everybody that will be attending and also employed by empowering you will enjoy the space and the activities plan.

10:54

Uh we will maintain the staff to client ratios and making sure that the individuals are always supervised, they will not be unattended or unsupervised.

11:04

A staff will always be with them at all times, like Sarah did say, we will be transporting them to and from their homes, their group homes, and dropping them off after day program services.

11:18

We are only open Monday through Friday from 9 to 4.

11:22

Um I would say the noise level is pretty very minimal.

11:28

Um, a lot of the activities will be indoors.

11:31

If we do go in the community, it will be going to local stores, the aquarium, uh, museums and stuff.

11:41

Um people won't be hanging out in the parking lot.

11:45

Uh parking accessibility is there's enough parking for everyone.

11:51

Um see what else.

11:54

Sorry.

11:54

And then I believe that empowering you will also give families a peace of mind, create jobs or a place for their individuals, their family members to come to to also feel safe and also have fun.

12:09

Um and then we also want to encourage um community integration for these guys.

12:17

And we are also committed to being good neighbors.

12:22

And um, let me see what else there is.

12:25

Sorry, I'm just looking at my bullet points.

12:28

Um yeah, so I just want to end basically that empowering you is more than just an adult day program for adults with developmental disabilities.

12:38

It's a place where individuals can grow, can connect, and also thrive individually.

12:44

Um, and we respectfully ask if you guys can help us approve our conditional use permit.

12:51

We will greatly appreciate it.

12:52

And if you guys have any questions, I'm open for any comments or questions as well.

12:58

Thank you.

13:00

Uh thank you, Jane.

13:01

Um Sarah, did you have anything else?

13:05

Uh just one thing that was pointed out in the conditions that will need to be modified.

13:09

Um, we put um about meeting the requirements of the Department of Services for Persons with Disabilities, uh, but it was pointed out that it is the division of services of division of services for persons with disabilities.

13:23

Okay, thank you.

13:23

I have a question.

13:24

All right.

13:25

Um, I know that um they have plenty of parking, and I know that there are uh they aren't buying the whole building, they're just a tenant within the building.

13:36

So have we have we enough parking for other tenants in the future, given the fact that they need a certain number of parking?

13:44

Have we thought about that?

13:46

Yes, so the um original site plan um required 74 parking spaces, and that was for office and retail use, and the site has just over a hundred parking spaces.

13:56

Um, so even with this additional use, there still is um plenty of parking spaces since it was already um overparked with.

14:05

So there's plenty, yeah.

14:08

Okay, any other questions?

14:10

No, I feel satisfied.

14:12

We've already talked about this and we're show rezone and uh parking-wise, pretty much everybody they're bringing in is by bus, so no the clients are will drive.

14:21

So they'll have plenty of parking space.

14:23

I'd like to go ahead and make a motion.

14:25

We're first gonna go to public comment.

14:27

I'm joking.

14:29

As soon as we get there, Steve, we'll get you moving.

14:32

But uh is there anyone here that uh has any comments, uh public comments for this item?

14:40

Seeing none, is there any online mic?

14:43

If you're joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak to this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time.

14:54

I am seeing one hand raised, Mr.

14:56

Van Maren.

14:57

You may unmute yourself.

15:01

Thank you.

15:02

Good evening again.

15:03

Uh was okay until I realized this is the basement.

15:07

I didn't see that in the original uh discussion of the rezone.

15:12

Um not sure handicapped belonging in the basement.

15:16

Uh I'm sure they can get in, but the elevators have to be shut down in case of a fire.

15:21

I'm a little anxious about that.

15:23

Thank you for your time.

15:30

I'm seeing no other hands raised.

15:32

Okay.

15:33

Sarah, do you want to address anything there?

15:38

No law and stuff.

15:41

Um, I mean, I don't have anything to add.

15:43

I think they have there are fire, uh the fire department does inspections for the businesses.

15:49

Um Jane has anything to add about that.

15:52

Um, but as long as they're meeting all the requirements by the fire department for emergency services.

15:58

Okay.

15:59

Thank you.

16:00

So just just to be clear, the code building code requires an area of refuge, um, which can qualify as that area in front of the elevator, and the firemen will actually come down and take the handicapped people out.

16:17

Thanks, David.

16:19

Okay.

16:20

Um we will uh Mike, you said nobody else, correct?

16:24

Okay.

16:25

So we'll close this appellate comment and uh uh unless there's any uh comments or questions, then we will go to Steve.

16:34

All right.

16:35

You're up, Steve.

16:36

I'd like to make a motion that the planning commission approve a conditional use permit for the empowering you adult daycare in the PO zone as uh described in the staff report for the property located at 11339 south, 700 east, based on the following three findings and four conditions, uh, with the modification from department to division on service people.

17:00

Two findings.

17:00

Two findings.

17:02

It's 7,000 east.

17:04

I think there's 700 each, pardon me.

17:05

No, I think there's two findings, not three findings.

17:08

No two findings and okay, I stand two findings and four conditions.

17:13

Second, um David Hart, was that you?

17:18

Yes, yes.

17:18

For the second okay, Steve Wrigley?

17:21

Yes, David Hart.

17:22

Yes, Ron Mortimer.

17:23

Yes.

17:23

Danny Schoenfelds, Dave Bromley?

17:25

Yes.

17:26

This motion carries.

17:27

Okay, good luck.

17:30

Okay.

17:31

Um move on and uh go for minutes.

17:36

I'll make a motion to approve the minutes.

17:38

All in favor?

17:39

Aye, aye, aye.

17:40

Aye.

17:41

Okay.

17:43

Brian, anything?

17:45

I think the only thing is our next meeting, October 2nd is canceled.

17:50

Okay, so we don't have any items for that one.

17:52

So we'll have one meeting in October.

17:54

October 2nd is canceled.

17:56

Yeah.

17:57

Mike, anything else from the U?

17:59

No, um, I'm somewhere.

18:02

Yeah, so October 16th, and then the next meeting after that would be November 6th, because there's three weeks in between those two.

18:08

Okay.

18:08

So say that again.

18:10

October 16th would be the next planning commission meeting on the schedule.

18:14

The October 2nd meeting has been canceled.

18:17

Okay.

18:17

And then following that, there's three-week gap.

18:22

Um, there's a fifth Thursday in the month of October.

18:25

So our next meeting would be November 6th after the October 16th meeting.

18:31

Okay, great.

18:32

I may not be here for the well, I probably won't be here for the 6th.

18:38

I don't know about the other.

18:40

Yeah, October 16th.

18:42

November 6th.

18:44

I will not be here for the 6th.

18:45

Yeah, I've got a conference I have to speak at.

18:48

Okay.

18:50

Okay.

18:51

So do we have a motion to adjourn?

18:53

Motion to adjourn.

18:54

All right.

18:56

All in favor.

18:56

All right.

18:57

All right.

18:58

And we'll try to figure out the video feed.

19:00

I'm not sure why that's not working.

19:04

I tried to I think Ron did it in 15 minutes.

19:10

Yeah, thanks for coming out for a short meeting.

19:12

Sorry about that.

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Summary of Proceedings

Sandy City Planning Commission Meeting - September 18, 2025

The Sandy City Planning Commission met on Thursday, September 18, 2025, at 6:15 PM in the City Council Chambers and via Zoom. The meeting included two public hearings: a request to annex three parcels (Fortner Annexation) and a conditional use permit for an adult daycare (EmpoweringU). Both items were approved unanimously. The meeting also approved the previous meeting's minutes and reviewed the upcoming schedule.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes Approval: The Planning Commission unanimously approved the minutes from the September 4, 2025 meeting.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Fortner Annexation: One online commenter, Steve Van Maren, attempted to speak but experienced technical difficulties; no substantive comment was provided. No other public comments were made.
  • EmpoweringU Adult Day Care: Steve Van Maren expressed concern about the daycare being located in a basement, specifically regarding fire safety and accessibility for individuals with disabilities. Staff noted that the fire department inspects businesses and that building codes require an area of refuge. Previously, two supportive comments (an email and a phone call) were received but were not included in the staff report.

Discussion Items

  • Fortner Annexation (ANX0709202): Staff presented the request to annex two properties at 8564 S. 1000 E. (one vacant, one with a home) and one at 8590 S. 1000 E. (an existing duplex) into Sandy City. The recommended zoning was R-1-10 (10,000 sq. ft. minimum lot) for the vacants and R-2-10 for the duplex to make it a legal conforming use. The applicant was not in attendance. The commission discussed the proposal briefly and voted to forward a positive recommendation to the city council with four findings.
  • EmpoweringU Adult Day Care (CUP0902202): Staff described a proposal to operate an adult daycare for individuals with developmental disabilities in the basement of a building at 11339 S. 700 E. within the Professional Office (PO) zone. The applicant's representative, Jane Taofa, spoke online, detailing the program (starting with 2–3 clients, up to 15–20), transportation via van, and low noise levels. Discussion addressed parking adequacy (over 100 spaces, with 74 required for prior uses) and fire safety. The commission approved the conditional use permit with two findings and four conditions, correcting a typo from "Department" to "Division" of Services for Persons with Disabilities.

Key Outcomes

  • Fortner Annexation: Motion carried unanimously (6-0) to recommend approval to the city council. The motion cited four findings (not specified in the transcript).
  • EmpoweringU Adult Day Care: Motion carried unanimously (6-0) to approve the conditional use permit with two findings and four conditions.
  • Meeting Schedule: The October 2, 2025 meeting is canceled. The next regular meeting is October 16, 2025, followed by November 6, 2025.

Meeting Transcript

Yeah, sure, that's good. I got that. I'm going to go to the same thing. We ready to start at 6.15, Mike. Ready to start at 6.15. I'm I'm ready to go. Okay. Things are ready to queue as soon as we're hit that magical number. I don't think anything comes. Okay, 615. Let's go with that. All right. Uh well, we'd like to welcome those who uh are in attendance here virtually as uh as well as physically uh for tonight's meeting, and uh we will begin um by stating the pledge allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands undergo individual with liberty and justice for all okay. So I am uh Dave Bromley and I'll be chairing the meeting this evening, and we'll start off over here with uh Dave for your introduction to the planning commission. David Hart, Danny Schoenfeld, Ron Mortimer, Steve Brigley. And uh Brian, if you could introduce staff. Yeah, I'm Brian McKeuston, the assistant community development director. To my right is Mike Wilcox, the planning director. Down here is Sarah Stringham, a planner. Uh Ivan Hooper is our transportation engineer, and then Aisha Malia Talua is our planning commission secretary. Okay. I think Darion might be joining us online. Uh maybe, maybe not. But I think that's her plan. Okay, thanks, Brian. Uh with regards to how the meeting will proceed tonight. Uh there are two items on the agenda, and uh we'll first have uh staffer introduce those items, and then um uh if the uh applicant will uh have the opportunity to add to the presentation afterwards the staff will uh then uh close out uh their comments and and we will open the meeting up to public comment. Um and um we will then close public comment and open it up for planning commission deliberation and and uh motions as applicable. And uh so we'll proceed uh with the first item now. It is the uh Fortner annexation. If you're okay with it, I'll just stay right here in my seat. Uh this is the Fortner annexation. The applicant is not gonna be in attendance tonight. Uh he's already told me beforehand, but the request is to annex three particular parcels that are hatched out on this uh vicinity map. We have properties located at 8564 south and 8590 south 10th east. Uh there are two properties that have the same address of 8564, one has a home and the other one is vacant. So this annexation is just over an acre in size. Uh the zoning in the county is A1. You'll see on that uh area highlighted in green. Uh typically when we've annexed these properties with the A1 zone, it's an R110, so 10,000 square foot lot minimums. Uh the one on the corner at 8590 East is actually an existing duplex that has two uh single families living in that uh home. And so Sandy has zoning as R210 on the west and on the east side of that property, and so because it's already an existing duplex, we're gonna recommend an R210 zone uh just so it's a legal conforming use instead of creating a legal non-conforming use. And so staff would recommend that the planning commission forward a positive recommendation on this particular annexation. Okay, thanks, Brian. Um is there anyone here who would like to speak to this item? Seeing none, uh Mike, is there anyone online? Yes, if you're joining us via Zoom webinar and would like to speak to this particular item, please use the raise your hand feature now, and we'll address you one at a time. I see one hand raised, and that's Mr. Steve Van Maren.

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