In progress.

I'm always coming to the doctors.

Yeah.

Yes.

I think that's great.

And I'll take it on.

There's there are a lot of things.

Yeah, let's do it.

Unless it's all worse.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Madam Chair, whenever you're ready, we are ready.

All right, welcome everyone.

Tonight we are meeting with the city council January 6, 2026.

This is the first meeting of the year.

We have new council members.

Thank you.

We're gonna go ahead and begin tonight with a prayer and a pledge.

Do I have any volunteers for uh given the prayer?

Council member Christensen.

Yeah.

Our dearest Heavenly Father, we thank thee for the opportunity we have to gather together this evening and to work through the issues of Sandy City.

Please bless us all that we would be able to listen and understand those things that are brought before us and that we'd be able to work together to create the best solutions for our city.

We love thee and we are so grateful for all of the many blessings and we say these things in the name of thy son Jesus Christ, amen.

And if you'll all please rise and we can recite the Pledge of Allegiance together.

I pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

Thank you.

Uh we'll go ahead and start with introductions, and we'll start over here with our executive director.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Uh Dustin Pratt, I'm with the City Council office.

There are two other council staff members in the back of the room, Justin Sorensen and Liz Terrio, and then Council Legal Counsel, Mr.

Cadell, as far as I know, he'll be here shortly.

Chris Nickel, District Three.

Marcy Houseman, District Four.

Brooke Christensen, District One.

Brooke D'Souza at large.

Alison Stroud, District Two.

Aaron DeKeiser at large.

Cindy Sharkey at large.

I'm Mayor Monica Sultansky.

Welcome new returning council members and congratulations on being here.

Thank you.

I'm Shane Pay, City Administrator.

Lynn Pace, City Attorney.

Thank you, everyone.

I just want to quickly address the general citizen comment period.

Uh the council policy is that we will not take citizen comment any sooner than 6 p.m.

And so at an appropriate time during the agenda items, we'll come back to that item once we've hit the six o'clock time frame.

And so we are going to move into our agenda.

Item number one on the agenda is the election of city council chair and vice chair.

I'm going to turn this over to our executive director Dustin to present this item.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Your policy says that you will elect a new chair every six months, January and July.

The policy states that we can go through as many as three ballots this evening.

First, uh myself and Mr.

Sorensen will review the uh paper ballots.

And if there's an election, we'll let you know.

If not, you can let us know if you'd like us to uh tell you the vote count, and then we'll hold a second ballot after that.

Uh and then finally, once a chair is elected, we'll move on to the vice chair election, or we'll follow the same process.

And at the end, once we have a chair and vice chair elected by ballot, I'll be looking for a motion to uh accept the results of the election, appointing those two council members as chair and vice chair.

Once you've got that, just set it in front of you, and Justin will come grab them.

We do have an election, so the next chair will be council member Sharkey.

Congratulations.

So now we'll move on to the vice chair election.

Again, we've got an election.

The vice chair will be council member Stroud.

That's perfect.

Thank you so much.

Um, we'll go ahead and I'll move to elect council member Sharkey as chair, and Councilmember Stroud is vice chair per the votes.

Second motion is second.

Any discussion?

Can I imagine there would be?

Um is this a voice vote or is this a I'm fine either way.

Okay, well, we'll go ahead and do a voice vote then.

Um all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

All right, we have an election.

Congratulations, you two.

Um, council member Sharkey.

Would you like to begin chairing the meeting now?

I'm fine if you serve out your agenda.

I'll take it up next week.

Okay, sounds good.

Thank you.

Well, that moves us into um item number two, but before that, we've had a request to move up a standing report for the recreation consent center construction.

And so we're gonna try that in this um order this week and see how it goes.

So, Jeddah, ready for you when you are.

It'll be super fast again.

Um Leighton is just still working on footings and foundations.

Um, they said they're pouring again on Wednesday and Friday this week.

Um, and after this week, they'll be about 75 to 80 percent done with footings and 20 to 30 percent done with the foundation walls.

Um, the other major thing that happened is Rocky Mountain Power finally came out last week.

We've been on their schedule for a long time.

Um so they got the new transformer hooked up last week.

This week they're coming back on Thursday and Friday to remove the old transformer.

So that transformer right now is actually right in the middle of the footprint of the new building, so that's preventing them from finishing the footing.

So once that gets cleared out, then they'll be able to pour them.

So I'm gonna be out of town next week, so Lois will be here to get this report next week.

Um does anybody have any questions?

Any questions?

All right, thank you so much.

Thanks for letting me go early.

Absolutely.

I just add that they they're pouring concrete on Christmas Eve over there.

Yeah, they're moving fast, and the weather, the good weather is helping them make a lot of progress.

I can imagine grateful for all of the hard work that everybody's putting in for the center.

All right, that makes us into item number two.

Uh, Mayor Zoltanski recommending the council advice and consent for the appointment of Ben Hill as the Sandy City Parks and Recreation Director.

Um, Mayor Zoltanski, I believe you wanted to introduce um this item, so I'll go ahead and allow you to do that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

And after this item, I'm gonna excuse myself to attend uh two swearings in one in South Jordan and one in Riverton this evening.

So uh it's my pleasure to introduce Ben Hill as the mayor's recommended parks and recreation director.

Ben, if you'll come up to the podium as I give a little bit of share a little bit of your bio information.

Mr.

Hill is a Utah native who grew up in Salt Lake Valley and knows the local community very well.

He has two decades of progressive parks and recreation experience and 10 years of that in executive leadership roles.

Most recently, he served as the executive director of Cottonwood Heights Parks and Recreation.

He has experience with strategic planning, uh, budget and fiscal management, capital project oversight and planning, and daily operations over site.

Mr.

Hill has experience in opening a new rec center.

He was part of the design build and opening of Northwest Recreation Center in Rose Park.

He was also directly involved with the design build and opening of the Jail Sorenson Recreation Center in Harm in Harriman.

He among his many strengths is a candidate for this position.

Along with his experience, he has a master's degree in parks and recreation management from University of Utah.

He's a certified park and recreation executive, a CPRE qualification he earned through the National Recreation and Parks Association.

This is a distinction that many people in his profession hold.

Mr.

Hill is widely respected for his collaborative leadership style, integrity, ability to work effectively with elected officials, boards, and community partners to advance recreation goals in a community.

His uh he has the vision, technical experience, and leadership acumen necessary to guide Sandy City's parks and recreation department into the next era of service innovation and growth.

I'm really proud uh to introduce Mr.

Hill to you, and I think that after his interview, you will agree that his work throughout Salt Lake County with our neighboring city of Cottonwood Heights and already serving many Sandy constituents in that capacity.

He is well positioned to step into this role and has the experience to guide the department in our city's expanding recreation uh interests.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor.

Um, Mr.

Hill, if you would like an opportunity to maybe say a few words and introduce yourself before we get to the council questions.

Perfect.

Yeah, just uh expanding on the mayor's um remarks.

Thank you very much.

Um I grew up in uh Salt Lake City.

Uh found a passion for recreation and parks uh because of the coaches I was involved in as I went over to the park and participated in youth sports at college.

I wanted to be a professional youth football coach.

And I found out quickly that didn't pay the bills.

Um, but I realized what provides that service is parks and recreation.

So immediately I had a passion for it.

I wanted to excel at it.

I didn't want to just be someone who fell into the field.

I wanted to be the best at it, which meant I need a master's degree, which means I need to have the top-level certifications, and um, you know, it was a thrill to work with Salt Lake County as a get uh kick off uh working at Northwest Recreation and helping with that facility.

That's why I got moved over to uh at that time, Marv Jensen while they were building uh JL Swords and was thrilled for the opportunity to be promoted uh to the Cottonwood Heights Parks and Recreation as the executive director there.

Um, the last 11 years has been uh my dream job.

Um I'm so excited to be here and the opportunity that Sandy presents, the whole career that I've had.

I've always looked at Sandy as the level to look at is as far as park maintenance and and the way parks should be.

Um, and uh you know I'll tell myself why you know let's be a little bit more like Sandy.

Um, and so I'm thrilled to actually be have this opportunity to be with you and to present myself today.

Thank you, Mr.

Hill.

Um, I guess we will go ahead and get into questions from council members that you may have of Mr.

Hill.

Uh Councilmember Housman, if you'd like to start us off.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, I had a prepared question, but I'm gonna start with a different one because of something you just shared.

So thank you for giving us a little more insight.

Um, you just said Cottonwood Heights was your dream job.

So I'm curious to know what you're hoping to see in this role so that Sandy is, you know, your dream job.

So it becomes your dream job.

Yeah, I guess that's like uh being able to have a dream job within a dream job, right?

Um ultimately my title was with Cottonwood Heights as a parks and recreation director.

Um that's the same title I have here.

So I I fulfilled my goal of becoming a parks and rec director.

Um the fact that I get to be able to do that for a larger city, a city that's welcoming in the mammoth hockey, the Utah Jazz, the the Real, the different associations that we have, the amphitheater.

I mean, my family and I, we visit the amphitheater quite often throughout the summer.

Um, we go to the parks, uh Jordan Commons is an often place we're watching a movie at.

So I feel like I'm already Sandy and and the Murray kind of just blend together a little bit.

So I I love the area already.

So yeah, I'm still fulfilling that dream of and and it's a bigger stage, right?

Um, Cottonwood Heights residents, about 35,000.

The uniqueness with Cottonwood Heights is it's a special district.

Um and the city, so the city's the special district is not underneath the city, and sometimes that's a strength because we we have everything within house to run parks and recreation, but I've found that the collaboration that we need and the coming up to the same plate is so valuable, and I can see that already in Sandy that it's important for the mayor, it's important for the city council.

Parks and recreation is important for everybody, not just the district.

Thank you.

And then I have one more question if I could, Melanie.

Um so trail connectivity is really important to me, as is is to all, I'm not saying I'm the only one that's important too, but it's something I've been really reading about, thinking about, talking about for several years.

Um, and I especially since we did our master planning with our with our parks and recreation department.

I've come to understand the value of expanding our walk shed and connecting to regional trails.

The governor obviously has indicated that this is incredibly important to him.

Tell me a little bit about your experience with trails, um, your vision for accomplishing, you know, this connectivity that I think is really an important part.

If because if we can increase connectivity and residents are able to walk to a park, even if it's not in Sandy, there we are increasing their access to parks and trails.

I think that's incredibly important.

So tell me a little bit about your experience there.

Yeah, exactly.

So if I went back to my college days and sitting in my college classes, I would be sitting next to some outdoor recreation folks, uh different folks in the community recreation, right?

They want to be out in the mountains on those type of trails.

I think the trails you're referring to are more urban trails, their connectivity to connect us to I want to be able to walk from the movie theater to walk to a park so I can have my picnic at the park, and I don't want to, I want to be able to do that safely.

Um I currently serve as an uh advisor for the Cottonwood Heights Parks, Trails and Open Space Committee.

That's a committee that was formed by the uh mayor there.

Um and I sit on that to advise them on all things parks, trails, and open space.

And Cottonwood Heights right now is very interested in the exact same thing connectivity, and and when you have a city that's been in um firmly established for so long, or an area, right?

Like all of a sudden, oh wow, that makes it really tricky to make make that side of the sidewalk work.

Um so definitely have a passion for it, and we've done a number of projects for grant seeking in order to connect uh certain parts, and I think the important thing is to celebrate your small successes.

Um if you can just get a couple blocks, and then maybe in a couple years you get the next couple blocks, and then all that can now it connects to this.

Um it's a long drawn-out process, maybe something that will take past our expectancy or life expectancy, but I'm very thrilled and excited about that.

Yes.

Can I add to that?

Last last question, promise.

I I love I love that vision that you have, and especially the idea of because we're gonna need to explore connectivity, you know, with our with our neighboring cities.

But tell a little tell me a little bit more about your you mentioned the role you have in serving as an advisor, but that's more to Cottonwood Heights.

What about relationships you have with you know state level entities and accessing grant funding because of relationships with state decision makers, etc.?

Yeah, so the outdoor uh recreation grant um is a great uh place to start.

Um it's they're expanding that grant by quite a bit.

I've been to a few training on how to bring that into.

Usually they look for more at-risk areas, more um poverty areas that they want to put the money into.

And so you got to be really tricky when you're talking about Cottonwood Heights or uh I'm sure Sandy, you know, and and find the uniqueness of why that's important.

Um but uh you know, right now I oversee um a certain miles of trails, you know, the city might own it or we own it, but we manage those trails.

Um so looking for opportunities to make those grants and uh and using the supporting staff of the city and the resources they may have in planning and and such to say, hey, can you help me look into this grant, see if it's something we could potentially grab on to?

Yeah, thank you.

That's all I have, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Councilmember Housman.

Um, Councilmember Nickel.

Hi, Ben, welcome.

Good to see you again.

Thanks.

Um, how many people do you manage?

So currently, right now at uh Cottonwood Heights, we have 26 full-time employees that spans from aquatics to programming, rec recreation, um facility maintenance, parks employees, um, and administration.

Awesome.

We have great employees in our parks department.

Absolutely.

And how would you describe your management style?

You know, I um especially coming into this uh 11 years ago.

Um I was hired from the outside into Cottonwood Heights.

Um, and man, that was that was hard.

And people I understand it's disappointing.

Um, it's such a sought-after job, and um so I I value the employees that are already here.

I've already gone through it once where you go, hey, I'm here to help raise what we're doing.

And so let me learn from you.

Let me understand what you do and how this has been successful.

And and by the way, would that would there be things that you would change now?

Like maybe you haven't been able to.

Let's talk about that, and let's give those things a try.

And then slowly, you know, within a six-month to a year time, start going.

Have you thought about this?

Have you thought about this?

You know, there might be things initially, but right now I'd be a sponge looking to uh learn from this amazing staff that I know we have in Sandy.

Awesome, thank you.

Thank you.

We'll go to Council Member Stroud.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, you know, I stellar resume, you know, with a a lot of uh experience on there, a lot of highly qualified.

Um, you know, one question I did have was what's your what would you say is your biggest accomplishment that you've had at Cottonwood Heights?

Um that's interesting.

I we've had a lot of successful grant opportunities to where you know through the ZAP application, we were able to fund a four to five million dollar outdoor pool, seeing the construction of that.

But I'm more about the people.

If you if you ask me, like what was my what's my favorite thing about my job is to mentor others.

Um when I came into Cottonwood Heights uh 11 years ago, they had just had a drowning at the outdoor pool.

I was in the county at the time, and we felt that even being in a separate pool miles away, we felt that in the uh parks and recreation community.

And I came in and things were broken because everyone was hurting, and I think rallying the team together on such a hard thing to deal with and going through the trial and trying to put pieces back together and where we're team today, I would say was my greatest strength.

I love building teams.

Uh so kind of back to my leadership style.

I I played rugby in high school and college, and and it's a little different way of forming a team and yelling at people.

You don't do that at work, you you do that on the field, but you do it a little differently, but it's the same outcome.

If you work together as a team, great things can happen.

Wow, that's a yeah unique story and unfortunate, but you know, for you able to to kind of rally and um move that forward.

Um what would be and I know it's been a very you you've hardly been able to get in and really see a lot of things, but what would be maybe some of your first couple of ideas of steps that you'd like to look at you know in this position and looking for the next maybe six months.

What are some things that you'd like to do here in Sandy?

Yeah, so I think the the thing that that stands out the is the report we just heard, right, about the Sandy Community Recreation Center.

Um, making sure that that is on time, on budget, and what the community is seeking after, and something that will be an asset for us going into the future.

So making sure that I'm fully aware of what's going on and being a part of that uh process.

You know, I I started my career when I was in um the county as a park as a programmer, uh recreation specialist.

When I got to Cottonwood Heights, that's when the parks were introduced, um, and the butt, you know, all things, right?

Because I'm being the executive director there, but um like I've really found so you say my background is maybe more programming side of things, but I have found the passion for parks and realizing the connection of that had as I as a youth, and I am really excited to jump in to see how the park system works and to make sure that that becomes my my strength on top of what I already have with managing the parks that we have now, but I really want to be able to be known as uh we were just talking earlier about Scott Earl and his his his um his energy and his passion he had for parks, and I'm like, I want to be that.

And I'm like, I want to be that.

I want people to say that about me.

So yeah, I would say trying to get to know the park system, relying on staff, and then the building of the new recreation center.

Great.

Love those answers.

Yeah, probably.

Thank you, Councilmember Stroud.

Uh, Councilmember Sharkey.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you for being here, Ben.

Appreciate it.

I want to circle back to the reporting structure, the structure of the recreation, the Cottonwood Heights Parks and Recreation Service Area.

I think that service area even predated the incorporation of Cottonwood Heights, didn't it?

Yes.

So and that so you reported to an elected board of trustees?

Correct.

Did you even have so I'm trying to figure out did you even have a lot of interaction with the city, with city management, with city staff, with city operations, or were you wholly separate because of the way it was set up?

Yeah, so the service area was established in 1967.

The city became a city in 2005.

And so I was just talking to the city today.

I was over there at their offices today talking about man back in 2005, I think we dropped the ball.

We should have made this more together because today we're starting to see the results of not being the same, whether that be boundaries of the same being the district, because our boundaries are just a tad smaller than that of the city, but we also have boundaries in Sandy, Holiday Murray, like it goes past the city too because it's a district.

So I have a meeting every other month with the city manager that we do an update with each other and we talk about what uh how's the city going, how how we're going.

We have an interlocal agreement with the city that we that is good for every five years.

Um in that interlocal talks about how they may own parks, but we manage those parks up to the same standards of the parks that we own.

Um it talks about us running the city events and partnering with them when it comes to construction or development of new parks.

Um we have a meeting we call CH2, that's once a month, uh, where staff and uh a representative that would be appointed to that council or that committee, sorry, um, from city council and from the board of trustees comes together.

We call it CH2 because it's Cottonwood Heights Squared, the the district and city together, and I lead that meeting with the city manager in the room, and we talk about okay, uh, public works, what are you working on?

Parks, what are you working on?

Okay, what do we need to go together?

Events, programs, what do we need to go together, and then elected officials, how can we help each other.

Um I report to the board to the city council at least twice a year, where um I will come in in a work session and take up the whole work session telling them how our year wrapped up in the district and how the interlocal and partnership is going.

Um and anytime the city has a request or questions, they they would call me.

As far as my board of directors, uh board of trustees, we have a monthly board meeting where we have an agenda that we we have to follow all the the training and stuff that you'll go through tonight in your training that um where I lead that meeting and present uh ideas and things by policy that we need approval from our board of trustees, or just my director's report of saying, hey, here's the latest of what we're doing and getting feedback constantly from it, especially the chair, they rotate the three of them rotate every year.

So as I work with the chair, I meet with them uh regularly, it's a phone call or it's a regular meeting, and then we have a formal public hearing meeting, uh public hearing, of course, when budget's being passed, but um uh formal public meeting once a month.

So it sounds like even though you were a whole a completely separate recreation service area, you're describing a scenario where there was a lot of interaction with the city.

Here though, you're an employee of the city.

So do you expect how do you expect it to be different for yourself and will it be advantageous or disadvantageous?

I mean, maybe under the current structure, you have a lot more autonomy to do whatever you want to, and in this case it may not be the same.

I'm just wondering about this transition and what how you think it's gonna go and what how what you think is gonna be different about that.

Yeah, I appreciate the question.

So um it's a little bit of a uh if I use the analogy of a sandwich, right?

So um in the county, there was very much a very uh structure, you know, and there was very much uh you almost fell at times you didn't have enough autonomy to really serve the people that the right way.

Um so it was refreshing to go to Cottonwood Heights where there is a lot of autonomy, and I think it's I think you could run into the situation where the general manager or the executive director kind of just goes on their own.

Uh that's not who I am, right?

I uh go hand in hand with my trustees.

I the the the great thing about trustees that run for a district of parks and recreation is they're passionate about parks and recreation, and that's all we do.

So we're really focused on that.

So it's it's easy communication, easy um uh reporting so that we're all on the same page.

I think coming into this system, um, it's a little bit back to in the county system, a little bit of both, right?

Where um as a department head, there is some autonomy, but the thing I focus on is that there's policies in place, there's policies and procedures that I will get to know in and out and know which things are to have autonomy and which things I need to run up the chain to my supervisors, which things I need to run up the chain to the mayor, which things have to go before the council, all those things because you you can't work together as a team unless you're all on the same page.

So it takes a little bit more time, but if you're communicating and open, look it's just the way it's supposed to be.

So the public is aware of what you're doing.

Okay, good.

You just have one more question, if that's okay.

Um we've received a job description, and I assume along the way through the uh interview process you've received it too.

Is there any are there any aspects of the job description that are new to you, things that you haven't maybe done before?

And do you have a game plan for how to learn uh to take on these new tasks or new responsibilities?

Yeah, it's interesting because when you look at a job description, you're first looking at like how does how does this fit with me?

And you you kind of highlight those things that you're good at, and you know, which I think I've shared a little bit uh already tonight.

But the things that are a little bit newer to me, um things that I haven't directly supervised, but I've been a part of, you know, say a golf course, um, you know, in the county, we they have six golf courses, and I you know often would work with my peers um, you know, it was similar to a park, I'm sure, in the maintenance, but it's a little higher level, right?

Um, but also for the last 11 years, we have a 501c foundation uh here in Cottonwood uh there in Cottonwood Heights, and uh we ran a foundation golf tournament for the last 11 years, and like so understanding the programming of a golf course and how how um how events can happen and then the maintenance of it.

So although I haven't directly supervised the golf course, I'm looking for the opportunity to work with the golf uh professionals.

And again, I would I rely on that strategy of saying, tell me, let me be a sponge, help me understand what I might be lacking here, and then I'll get uh very educated on it.

Uh cemeteries are new.

Um I was kind of thinking about that one, thinking, well, I think the residents are just a little bit different there.

But um hopefully they're they're restful at the rest of the resting peacefully, and and and you know, you know, these families are coming because they're morning.

We all have we all have places that we go to see our relatives, and you want to go where it's beautiful and you can feel the spirit.

Um let me think if there was something else.

Oh, one of the ones that I thought was kind of interesting is I'm also a part of the healthy Cottonwood Heights, and I know we have that program here in Sandy, and I haven't really talked about that, but that was also in the job description.

I'm I'm I'm curious to see what level Sandy is on that.

Okay, good.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Thank you.

We'll go to Councilmember De Kaiser.

Thank you.

I think it's great that you have a master's degree in the certifications, and like from the beginning, you were like, I want to be the best, and uh you've achieved that, and now you're you're growing in that.

So I'm wondering those those uh certifications you have, do they have any continuing education type requirements or what is ongoing for you in the field?

I ask that because uh one of the duties of your role is staying current on the trends in parks and recreations.

So if you could uh speak to that and your and your your certifications.

Yeah, perfect.

So the the National Parks and Recreation Association, which is where the certification come from, uh, you know, is the parks and recreation association that governs the the nation.

Um if you were to go to their website, they would say the reason why you want the CPRE is to show others that you are staying up with the trends and that you are fulfilling CEUs.

That's the whole point of having a certification.

So I appreciate the question.

Um in order to get the CPRE, you have to first become a CPRP, which is a certified parks and recreation professional.

Um a lot of individuals have that distinction in our state.

Uh the CPRE takes uh years of being an executive level, so like a parks work director, and um you must already be a CPRP.

Um I was I I've now had that for the last 10 years.

I think I got that within my first year of being in Cottonwood Heights, and and at that time I was only one of two in the state that had that level.

We've now been really pushing for it.

I bet we're up getting close to maybe 15, but it's still very hard to achieve that level.

Um and so for that to in order to maintain that I had to pass a test to to prove my knowledge.

And then my CEUs, I have to get 3.0 every three years, and an hour class is point zero, one, no, point one.

So basically you gotta take 30, you know, 10 classes a year that are directly related that are approved for CPRE credit, and uh to maintain that.

So we get those at our state affiliation U URPA conference, which happens in March, and then the national um conference happens uh in the fall, and it's a great opportunity to get some CEs there as well.

Awesome.

Did you ever work with Martin?

I did.

Yeah, uh surprisingly, I mean I uh Martin and I haven't played the the the date game but uh of when we started, but I I believe that we started in different uh we started in parks and recreation in the county at the same year, but totally different areas.

I was a program coordinator fresh out of college, and Martin came in um from his federal work and was uh over PR in marketing.

And so yeah, there was an issue at the center as a programmer if you needed help with marketing, and I think he was a one-person uh one person job at the time, you would call in Martin.

Um Martin then moved up into the um administration of Salt Lake County at some point.

Uh by that time I had moved my way through my years to becoming a facility director as Martin was named the parks and recreation director of Salt Lake County.

I think I was there just for a few months before I I got the promotion over at Cottonwood Heights.

So we didn't have a long time there, but I've I loved working with Martin that the time that I did have.

He's he's a professional, he knows what he's doing, and I'm and part of the reason why I wanted to come is because I'm going, hey, I can work for that guy.

I've loved working with Martin too.

Um, and that'll be so so neat that you're coming back full circle.

Uh one thing I just want you to know is that in our general plan, it talks about expanding our tree shed.

This is something that I've had on the back burner for a long time.

Um, but I assume you would be the person who's gonna work on that.

So look into that and make sure we're planting lots of trees um to clean up our air and promote our healthy Sandy initiatives and things like that.

I I just want to finish by saying I really appreciate you reaching out prior to this, and I look so uh forward to supporting your appointment.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Council.

Thank you, Councilmember DeKaiser.

Um I have a couple of questions.

Um, but first I want to thank you for your enthusiasm with which you've come to this um opportunity, and um I recognize that and appreciate that, and I think um it definitely speaks to the spirit of our current department there very much so.

Uh my I guess my first question would be what do you see as Sandy's biggest strength?

Um, and then on the other side, our challenge, like as we are right now.

Um I I recognize that you don't have maybe all of the information, but from a sandy adjacent position, looking looking in um and following maybe some of the careers of of previous directors, um, what do you see as our current strength and challenge?

Yeah, I I really love how Sandy is, how big Sandy is, but it's it still has a city fill, right?

Like I um I've the county, it's a huge organization.

I've worked in Salt Lake City underneath the county because they do the the parks and recreation, and again, Salt Lake City is so big and West Valley is so big.

I love that Sandy is big enough and it's bringing in all this additional um, you know, like the what we talked about, the real salt lake and and those things, but it also has that community feel where there's these these residents are here just to enjoy their neighborhood parks.

Um so I would say that my the biggest strength that I've seen um is the amount and the um how well how well maintained those parks are.

Um anytime I've been into a sandy park, I've just like and maybe we look at our own parks a little bit more harshly, you know, and so uh maybe as you visit a park you go, oh this looks so nice, and I'll get a little bit more of a critical eye.

But I love how the parks look.

I love how Sandy is so focused on um so many different aspects.

Um I think from my viewpoint of what is the biggest challenge, like because I like you said, I only have this much vision right now, and I do I I believe that it is a big challenge to bring in someone from the outside.

Um, and I recognize that, and I think that's gonna be a challenge, and hopefully, you know, the lemon and lemonade scenario comes in where we we turn it into lemonade really quick, and people go, wow, he's just passionate about parks and recreation, he's here to help us, and he and this was a great idea because it's strengthening and helping Sandy Rise.

I love that slogan, that's so cool.

Um, and so in my little world right now, that's what I'm thinking.

Like the the biggest challenge is okay, you're bringing in someone from the outside, how am I going to make sure I um uh do a good job with my staff and with the elected officials?

Okay, thank you.

Um another question, kind of thinking about Sandy Parks and how they look.

Um, what are your thoughts on um I guess when looking towards the future and some of the challenges that we face here in Utah in Salt Lake Valley, the Great Salt Lake, uh water shortages and droughts, rising water costs, things like that.

Um, you know, what are your thoughts on on park landscaping?

Um and and maybe even more like water wise landscaping.

Oh, I love the the answer, and then you get my passion coming out, and so I'll try to keep it brief.

But um, I started in parks and recreation in 07.

That's when I I got my first job at graduated college in uh my master's degree in 07, uh started in the county that same year, and all of a sudden we hit a recession, right?

We went through a hard time in 07 and 08.

And and I so I've I've really done some research on this, and before 07 and 08, parks and recreation was building, building, building.

Oh, let's just build something.

We didn't put a lot of focus into maintaining what we had, we just kept on building.

And all of a sudden recession happened, and we went, I don't have the money to build anymore, let alone take care of what we have.

So I I think it's really important as you're looking to uh maintain what you already have to do a really good because it's easy to add add and add, but then are we uh considering what the maintenance cost is going to be and what the ongoing cost is going to be for those items?

Do we have that in the budget in 30 years to to replace an ice sheet or whatever it might be?

And so being really cautious fiscally, and then as far as water-wise, um you've got these beautiful parks, and I really believe because I'm a passionate park and recreation professional that we need to water our parks, we need to have these places so families can go to, and if anything, let the grass at the park be nice so we can all collectively come together because that's how we started back in 1800, right?

As a park um department, you know, with New York and Boston.

And so it's nice to have the community gather like we saw during the pandemic.

They come and they they they used our parks again and let our yards go because that's only serving uh a few of us, right?

You know, or and and make sure that we're being smart in water wise of like, does that curve need to be grass?

No, can we put some we plant some wild grass so it doesn't need as much water, making sure that we're utilizing the w the water in the most uh beneficial way for the community?

Okay, thank you.

Um, you know, I'll I'll just go ahead and and uh I guess jump to the end of that and say um I've been a huge proponent of the localscapes kind of landscaping ideology um with regard to design and functional turf and and activity zones that have maybe uh like a different um hardscape or um mix with native plants and you know then changing your water to be more water efficient and you know not over spraying, just again like it's it mostly it's like thoughtful design, right?

Um, you know, and I look at areas of our parks now, and obviously, you know, parks require um largely um an immense um section of turf um and it's functional, but there are other areas that I think are could be um transitioned into uh the future and the future of landscaping and and could be in considerate of the needs um overall, and so I I would be really interested to hear some ideas going forward should you um be consented or confirmed that way um for that.

So yeah, I agree.

Thank you.

That is all I have.

Council member Nickel.

Yeah, okay.

I found another one.

So what how is the board made up at in the recenter district?

So it's an elected official.

Um they three member, a three-member board, yes.

Um they when it was first designed uh in 1967, right?

They were all at large, and just in special districts in general, you got that idea where the three neighbors might might be all become on the board.

So in Cottonwood Heights, we are broken down into districts, so we have three districts that represent those three um elected officials.

The city of Cottonwood Heights has uh five districts, right?

And so we overlap, and then it's like, okay, we got to talk about this area, so this has to involve two city council members and one of the trustees.

So do they have the do the city council have room on your board or do you invite them just yeah?

So the thing you you report to them, but do they come in and join you?

Is what I'm I'm guessing asking.

Um I've been striving for the last uh five or six years of making sure that that connection's more unisoned.

Um, you know, we've we've talked I don't know those of you that know Mayor Peterson, but I replaced Mayor Mayor Peterson, who was a former city um Cottwood Heights mayor, he was the Cottwood Heights director uh uh in parks and recreation, and then he became a city council member, a mayor.

So when he was the mayor, it was a little easier for me to talk parks and rec.

Um, but when I got hired on, it was Mayor Colmore.

Mayor Colmore says, hey, you are you're our parks and department.

And it and then in the new mayor uh uh with Mayor Wickers, it's been kind of that same thing, like let's get us back to going to where we're we're really a part of this.

And so we've had discussions about me sitting on the council.

Um they meet twice a month, you know.

But I was getting, I wanted to find out um what board turnover looked like with that with the recenter.

Was there had you dealt with turnover in the board?

And how many times did it turn over?

Yeah.

It's a it's a three-person board, but they have four-year terms, just like the most elected positions.

Um we have completely turned that over.

Um, none of the none of my hiring board members are currently on the board.

Um, and so right now we actually just had someone resign because he he actually needs to come back to work for us.

So he's he's gonna come back and work, but we we're now filling a vacancy for his spot, so we gotta go through to for someone to fill his last two years.

Um, but yeah, definitely turnover and with a mayor, and you gotta re-educate and say, oh, this is how the partnership works, this is what a special district is, and yeah.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Councilmember Nickel.

Uh, before we move on, are there any other questions from anybody else before?

Okay, and the only other last thing I would say is you know, kind of going to what council member Sharkey asked, and um some questions from Nickel, Councilmember Nickel would be um, you know, it sounds like Sandy is a little bit of a hybrid between the fully administrative um aspects of like Salt Lake County and the board um aspect of of Cottonwood Heights, being that the Alta Canyon Sports Center reports to a board, and the board in that situation is the city council, which is separate from the administration, and then you've got all of the other parks and aspects of the department under the administration, and so um yeah, you kind of maybe get the best of both worlds that way.

I agree.

Um, all right.

Well, tonight is just the information item for us to ask questions of you, and then um you will be back on another agenda for the um final vote and decision to um consent to your appointment.

And so we will see you at a future meeting.

Awesome.

Thank you so much, Cal.

Right.

Yeah, okay.

Thank you, Mr.

Hill.

Um, we have just hit six o'clock.

I timed that perfectly.

Um we're going to go ahead and do public comment.

I presently have one card for public comment.

If you were interested in the audience um in making public comment, there are blue cards in the back of the room.

Um please fill one out and you can bring it up here to um Dustin and they'll come to me.

If you are online, when we finish the in-room commenters, we will go to our online audience and I will let Dustin announce that.

Thanks, Madam Chair.

Uh as Madam Chair noted, as soon as we finish our in-person commenters, we'll move to our virtual attendees.

And if you'd like to comment on any city business and you're joining us via Zoom, go ahead and click the raise hand button on your screen.

Once we move through our in-person commenters, I'll call your name in the order in which you raised your hand.

Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Um, and the card that I have is for Rebecca Collie.

So if you'll come up here, um, you'll have three minutes.

Thank you so much.

Hi, Rebecca Collie here in Sandy.

Yesterday it was my pleasure for my husband and I to attend the oath of office ceremony for three of our newest council members.

We appreciate all of you.

It's incredibly significant as it is the duty of each of you to represent the constituents of Sandy and duty to constituents is not duty to lobbyists, the mayor, the League of Cities and Towns, and special interest groups, council members answer to constituents.

When some members vote in lockstep with the mayor on budget.

Sorry.

When some members vote in lockstep for the mayor's budget, despite public opinion in opposition, it looks like loyalty to an office, or even possibly to veil donors, even former city council members rather than representation of the people.

This is a level of adjustments that families like my own routinely make.

And they could do this all without raising property taxes.

They should evaluate alternatives such as eliminating duplicate programs, reducing administrative overhead, and improving efficiency.

These are the same things we, as constituents here in Sandy, ask you to do as our council before the talk of tax increase even passes your lips.

The attorney for the citizen-led tax referendum was told by our own Sandy City attorney that we could not be in the atrium of our own city hall to quietly gather signatures asking for a vote because it would look like our city government took a side.

Well, let me tell you, that was choosing a side.

A side against the citizens of Sandy and for an increase in our taxes at the county level.

If someone wants to sign the petition, we shouldn't be putting obstacles in front of them.

Because if they're going to sign it, they're going to sign it and they'll find a way.

But we shouldn't make it difficult for them or for the people that are trying to help.

We just keep adding on.

Thank you, Miss Collie.

Thank you.

Appreciate your time.

I appreciate yours too.

Thank you.

I don't have any other blue cards in my hand, so we'll go ahead and go to the online audience.

Thanks, Madam Chair.

Uh, just one last call.

If you're joining us virtually and you'd like to comment, go ahead and click the raise hand button on your screen now.

Not seeing any hands raised, madam chair.

All right, thank you, Mr.

Fraddo.

We'll go ahead and close out the public comment portion for this meeting and bring it back to the agenda.

Uh we are on item number three, which is the City Council Office recommending annually required open and public meeting act training.

So I will go ahead and turn it over to you.

Are you recommending it or are you going to administer it?

Well, if you'd like to close your eyes and plug your ears, I guess you could.

Um, but we are going to play it on the screen.

Uh so I'm gonna have uh Liz, I think is gonna pull it up for us.

Uh it's a video, it's gonna look really familiar.

All of you have watched a version of this video in the past, and in fact, uh maybe you watched it over the weekend.

Um so we're gonna go ahead and play the video.

It's a few minutes long, and that will uh at that point you'll have concluded our uh annually required open and public meetings act training.

Once it's finished, if you have any questions, I'm happy to do my best to answer them.

I'm sure uh Mr.

Cadell and Mr.

Uh Pace would be happy to answer questions as well.

And with that, Liz, would you go ahead and hit play?

So, what is the open and public meetings act?

It's the state law that ensures government actions and deliberations are openly conducted.

Before we continue, keep in mind that this video is an overview, and exceptions may exist based on your entity type.

We focus on local government, not state requirements.

When in doubt, read the law and consult with your legal counsel.

So, what's considered an open and public meeting?

It's one of public body quorum, also known as a simple majority, needs to discuss or act upon government business.

It includes the meetings sometimes referred to as workshops or executive sessions.

Regular meetings, public hearings, electronic meetings, and emergency meetings are all open and public meetings.

Open and public meetings don't include chance or social meetings.

A public hearing is a type of open and public meeting where citizens have a reasonable opportunity to speak.

Public hearings happen when a government adopts a budget, imposes or increases taxes or fees or transfers money from an enterprise fund.

These meetings have extra notice and posting requirements and won't be addressed in this video.

An electronic meeting is a type of open and public meeting that's convened electronically, such as via phone or the internet.

Remember, the governing body must adopt a resolution, rule, or ordinance allowing and governing electronic meetings.

OTMA adds additional requirements too.

An emergency meeting may be held to discuss an urgent matter due to unforeseen circumstances.

In order to hold the meeting, the best notice that's feasible is provided of the time, location, and topics to be considered.

An attempt is made to contact all governing body members, and a governing body majority approves the meeting.

An open and public meeting may be closed to discuss any of the following a person's character, competence, or health, collective bargaining, litigation, certain real property transactions, including any form of a water right or water shares with specific restrictions, security personnel, devices or systems deployment, investigations of criminal misconduct, and private or protected information for the Utah Procurement Code, including trade secrets.

A closed meeting may be held only if a quorum is present and the meeting was properly noticed.

Two-thirds of the governing body present at the meeting need to vote yes to close a meeting.

Quick math lesson.

Two divided by three equals 66.7%.

Let's say your governing body has five members present at the meeting.

If three out of five members vote yes, that equals 60%, which is not equal or greater than 66.7%, which means you're one member short and would need four out of five members to vote yes.

During a closed meeting, a governing body can't interview someone applying to fill an elected position, discuss filling a midterm vacancy or temporary absence, discuss the character, competence, or health of a person whose name was submitted for consideration to fill a midterm vacancy or temporary absence, approve any ordinance, resolution, rule, regulation, contract, or appointment, or take a vote, unless it's a vote on a motion to end the closed portion of the meeting and return to an open meeting.

When a governing body closes a meeting, the following must be publicly announced and entered into the minutes of the open meeting at which the closed meeting was approved.

The reason or reasons for holding the closed meeting, the location where the closed meeting will be held, and the vote of each member of the governing body, either for or against the motion to close the meeting.

If a closed meeting is discussing a person's character, competence or health, or security personnel, devices or systems deployment, or several other exceptions, mostly related to state bodies or project entities, no recording or minutes are required.

However, the presiding member needs to sign a sworn written statement stating such.

If the closed meeting is held for any other reason, the recording must be made, which includes date, time and place of the meeting, names of members present and absent, and names of all others, except where disclosure would infringe on the confidentiality necessary to fulfill the original purpose of closing the meeting.

Regular open and public meetings require 24 hours notice.

The public notice includes the meeting, agenda, date, time, and place.

Public meeting agendas need to include reasonably specified topics to be considered, with each topic listed under a separate agenda item on the meeting agenda.

The governing body may not consider a topic in an open meeting that wasn't on the agenda.

If a new topic not on the agenda is raised by the public during an open meeting, the governing body may discuss the topic.

However, final action may not be taken on the new topic during that meeting.

Additionally, entities holding regular meetings scheduled in advance over the course of the year need to provide annual notice of the entire year's meeting schedule.

The notice must include date, time, and place for each meeting.

Notice is posted on the public body's website in a public location, such as the location where the meeting will be held, and on Utah's public notice website in accordance with Utah Code 63G-30-102.

Typically, posting on the public notice website is done by the records officer, recorder, or clerk.

However, it's the governing body's responsibility to ensure notice is provided.

State archives has prepared a training manual and quick guide for owners and posters, as well as training videos that can be accessed at their website, archives.gov.

Written minutes and a recording are kept of all open meetings, with few exceptions.

Written minutes include the date, time and place of the meeting, the names of members present and absent, the substance of all matters, names of citizens providing comments, the substance of the comments provided, any information a body member requests be entered into the minutes or recording, and a record by individual member of each vote taken.

A body with elected members must record each vote in list format by category for each action taken by a member, including yes votes, no votes, and absent members next to each member's name.

A recording must be a complete and unedited record of all open portions of the meeting from beginning to end and be labeled with the meeting date, time, and place.

All or any part of an open meeting may be independently recorded by any person in attendance if the recording does not interfere with the conduct of the meeting.

Pending minutes means written minutes of an open meeting in draft form subject to change before being approved by the public body that led the open meeting.

Pending minutes must contain a clear indication, such as a draft or pending watermark that the governing body hasn't yet approved the minutes, and that the minutes are subject to change until the public body approves them.

Approved minutes means written minutes of an open meeting approved by the public body that held the open meeting.

Entities must establish and implement procedures for the public body's approval of written minutes.

Public meeting, pending minutes, approved minutes, and recordings of public records under Gramma.

Any individual who publicly presents information relating to an item on the public body's meeting agenda must provide a copy of the information for inclusion in the public record.

Make pending minutes available to the public within 30 days.

Within three business days after approving written minutes of an open meeting, make approved minutes and any public materials available at the Utah Public Notice website, the entity's primary office, and the entity's website.

Within three business days after holding an open meeting, make an audio recording of the open meeting available to the public for listening.

And with that, Madam Chair, does anyone have any questions for us?

If you don't have any tonight, you're always welcome to reach out outside of the meeting, obviously.

Any questions?

All right, no questions.

Thank you, Mr.

Fraddo.

That then concludes the OTMA training for the year.

And it brings us to item number four, which is the appointment of council members as liaisons to various committees for the calendar year 2026.

Dustin, if you want to go ahead and just introduce this item and maybe bring up the resolution list.

Sure.

Yes, so uh each year uh we have placed on the city council agenda, usually in January, uh an opportunity for you to review uh your current appointments to both external committees and to some internal special committees uh within the city uh to point various council liaisons.

Um the resolution that was adopted last year, uh it will go until further action is taken by the council.

Um and so there are currently folks appointed, although I will say with with the recent turnover, right, of council members or former council members Robinson and Meekham leaving the council, there's gonna be some vacancies, and so I would suggest that you fill those vacancies now rather than you know wait uh much longer because there are upcoming meetings.

So what I'll do is I'll go ahead and pull up the uh resolution that includes the table that you've all seen.

It'll show who was appointed to each of the committees last year, and then you guys can make the decisions on who you'd like to see uh appointed for this uh the upcoming calendar year.

Um once uh you've selected who to put in those spots.

Uh I would recommend that you adopt that resolution as amended, and then it'll go into effect.

And so with that, I'll go ahead and pull up the table.

And if there are any questions for me, let me know.

And if not, Madam Chair, I'll turn it back over to you.

I believe you had uh some thoughts on how to proceed.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

Fratto.

So, council, um, I thought, you know, kind of taking some of the experience from previous years when we've done this, that um I'd like to maybe start with more of an open dialogue regarding maybe some of the committees or maybe like I guess what I what I think might be best is to start with maybe the top committee that everybody is most interested in, whether you have it now or you don't.

Um in the past, when we've gone through sequentially, sometimes one that somebody really wants to serve on is you know further down the list, and it creates um other problems in um filling earlier um opportunities.

So if everybody is okay, maybe taking this approach, then um let's go ahead and do that.

So I can start or I can if somebody else wants to kind of go first.

Um okay, well, I will start then.

So the of the committees that I currently have, um the two that work best for me in my schedule are um Cog and the Senior Center, um, with COG probably being my first choice to retain.

Uh and anybody else would like to would like to go.

Council member Houseman.

Madam Chair, may I interrupt before Council Member Halsman?

Just so we can kind of keep track of this.

Would you guys be okay if I kind of note your names in the right column?

Maybe I'll highlight it in like green or something, just so we know that it's what you're requesting.

That way when we kind of go through it, you'll see what everyone's requested.

Yeah, I think that's to make things easier.

Yeah, whatever whatever's easiest for you to keep track of this kind of open dialogue is completely fine.

Um thank you, madam chair.

I I was gonna ask you about South Valley Chamber.

Um, and since you didn't indicate that was one necessarily that was high on your priority list, I would be interested in um in that one.

If you're not gonna make a claim on that, or did you just not mention that one?

Well, I um it doesn't work as well for my schedule.

And so I what I'm thinking maybe before we make any final determinations that we all get an opportunity to kind of say what we have most interest in that way.

Um maybe some of the some of it can be worked out before we get into the nitty-gritty.

Is that okay?

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, I'll just express interest in South Valley Chamber.

Um I have been serving on the Wasatch Front uh Waste Recycling Center.

I would like to stay on that.

Uh simply for there's sometimes certain ones that's helpful to have some continuity from from year to year.

So, but if needed, if someone was interested in in that, I I could um step down for that.

Um then Sandy Arts Guild was one I was interested in, but um I would say Wallset Trump Regional staying on that for another year is probably the one that I would say is is most important to me.

Um staying on Alta Canyon is really important to me.

I'd like to stay there, but mostly I am very flexible.

Like if someone if someone wants to have that, I wouldn't say there's one that I am time bound by um because most of the ones that I serve on have a virtual option, so I can phone in or or um zoom in, and and that has worked really really well for me.

So all of the ones I've been serving on, um, I can continue and I can also move around.

Depending on what's important to others.

Um but that's kind of and youth council.

I know what we have talked about in the past, it needs to continue.

So even though we might make the appointment, it does not begin until the new school year.

No, that was the previous year.

No, it starts January.

It starts next, so that we call the council member.

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

That's right.

Okay.

So I'll I'll guess I'll just leave it at that.

I'm I'm really open to a lot of things, but I um would be interested in South Valley Chamber, which I'm not currently on.

Okay, thank you, Councilmember Housman.

Anyone want to go next?

Councilmember Sharkey.

Thank you, madam chair.

Um, I think I'm on five committees right now.

Um in order of preference, I would like to keep ULCT and I would like to keep convention facilities advisory board.

Um there are a couple that I'm on that I'm willing that I'm I think I'd be happy to have someone else take it.

Art skilled, I'm on.

I've been on for the past year.

Um if someone else would like the opportunity to serve on that committee, I'd be fine to give that over to someone.

Um I'm also on the Alta Canyon committee.

I could I'd be willing to give that up to someone.

I I think that we haven't been using that committee to its greatest extent.

And I think especially now that we're we've got the construction underway, and I think we should be using it to a greater extent.

So, Marcy, if you wind up staying on that, and if I don't, that would just be my one level of input.

It's let's not hesitate to pull the trigger on that committee and have P at least keep people informed so they can spread the good word in the community, right?

About what's happening.

Um I'd also like to keep um the um what is it the architectural advice?

Yeah, architectural committee.

I'd like to keep that, but if someone else would like to have that, then I guess the two that I would like to uh that I'd like the most to stay on would be ULCT and Convention Facilities Board.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Okay, thank you, uh Council Member Sharkey.

Councilmember DeKaiser.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I think I currently serve on four uh and I would like to keep also with Councilmember Sharky, LPC.

Um, as Councilmember Housman noted, sometimes it does take some time to like figure these committees out and get them under your belt.

And so uh I'd like to stay on that.

Also, PUAB uh really been enjoying that, other than the start time.

Um and uh there's there's like so much to learn about our water, and I've really enjoyed working with Tom and the leadership of that group.

I'd be willing to uh let go of Healthy Sandy.

That committee comes with the lunch, which is nice.

And also we have it titled the Association of Municipal Governments.

It's the Association of Municipal Councils.

That one's really interesting and is great in networking opportunity.

Um council members from all over the region come to that and talk about different things.

So that's been really interesting, but I'd be um willing to let those two go.

I'm especially interested in Arts Guild and potentially the Sandy service ambassadors.

I can't remember exactly what the comment was, but something about there was a dis uh perceived disconnect between them and the council or something like that.

But I have a lot of great relationships with those folks, and so um that's one I'd be interested in.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councilmember DeKaiser.

Uh Councilmember Christensen.

Do you know?

I not call you out, but no, totally fine.

Um I'm more interested in what fits into my schedule at this moment in my life.

And so um things that do fit, and I'm not married to anything, but South Valley Chamber, um, the Sandy Club is usually very district one specific, so that would be good.

Um historic and CDGB, but I'm not necessarily wanting to take them away from Alison because she's doing such a good job.

If she has I'm happy to be an alternate there, um who outfits in my schedule, but I'm not married to that one either.

I've done that before.

Um service ambassadors, yeah.

Okay, thank you.

Um Councilmember Shaft.

Thank you.

Um yeah, that's I'm on four or five as well.

Um, you know, historic.

I I'd love to stay on that one.

They're really starting to make some changes right now, and it's been it's taken a couple of years to do that.

Uh, but I mean it I was on I'm gonna say the first couple of years with with you, yeah, and it was great.

I mean, that was you know, I but I mean it's I think we're just I'm seeing some of these, we're finally able to start moving with some of that, you know, the liaison.

But I mean, if it's something I know that is, and maybe it you know as an alternate if you're willing to share that.

I'm happy to be an alternate if I mean assuming no one else really is like dying to be on the historic committee, but that's great with me for now.

I hear you on that one.

Um, you know, that's you know, it's been and it works with you know, kind of welcome to the world of teaching, and that schedule on that.

Um, you know, one that's that has been a challenge for me is that Jordan River Commission is just those monthly meetings.

Uh and they're right kind of in that middle of the day where you can't get a half day sub for one or the other.

Uh so if somebody was you know wanting to do that, it's a it's a a great committee, and I mean I know it kind of goes through a little bit through district one, but it also has you know, I mean, some of that parks, you know, for those of you that you know haven't had a chance to be on there, um, you know, very very informative, very well run.

Uh, you know, Soren does a great job with it, you know, and ending connections with the county as well, but it really is it's hard, and there's also another committee at an external committee with the city that um it overlaps to, so it just makes it challenging.

You know, if somebody's got interest in that, um, that would be helpful, I think.

Um, you know, I'm uh currently on the Healthy Sandy and enjoying that.

You know, it has a connection with the district, you know.

So that's you know, I'm able to kind of see some of those sides and and tie some of that together.

So, you know, I have enjoyed that, um, and it is you know, it's only every other month, so it's a little easier to kind of work around you know, scheduling um for that.

Um see there was you know, I mean, service ambassadors love that, you know, and I know you've got interest with that, but that was I was on that a couple of years ago, you know, really enjoyed that.

The survey um survey approval team, I have not done that one yet, you know, so I would have interest there, and that's um you know, I think uh oh, and I'm still on community development plot grant that has two positions.

Um you know, it does I would say probably 95% of what we do, you know, impacts you know in district one, but I mean there are two positions unless somebody else is really wanting that as well.

But I I mean I've enjoyed that and works with my schedule.

Um and I think so you'll still, you know, the youth council, because you that'll be kind of works out that way.

So you know, I think that that um that works.

Uh and then the other, you know, this is the alternate with COG, and you know, that was great because it was an external committee, uh, but only four times a year, you know, where I was able to, you know, one of those in the summer, so it only took out you know three of my days during the year, but you know, I know you really wanted to be on that before, so you know, but yep, so other than that.

All right, thank you, Councilmember Stroud and Councilmember Nickel.

Oh people want all my picks too.

I went through I went through what Zach had, and my schedule is kind of tight as well, so I'm kind of looking with can and can't fit.

I can fit um the survey approval team in there.

I can take I can take ambassador.

Zach had that before.

I'd love to do that.

And Cindy, if you're not tied to the architectural review committee, I I can do that as well.

Um you guys are Brooke and Alison are pretty upset with COG, I'm I'm guessing.

So I would I would like to be.

Yeah.

I mean, it's we'll get to that.

No, it's okay.

And um Sandy Club, I'm available for it as well.

And COG was really the one, but uh, I can't I am available to do ULCT.

I've never done that, so I'd like to to give that a shot as well.

All right, well, thank you everybody.

Um, you know, I don't again, like I I don't think that we necessarily were going to iron anything out in that conversation, but I think it's helpful just to kind of have an awareness of of the interests or availability of everyone as we go through it, and so now maybe there's an opportunity to go back through it in order because you've made some notes, it looks like Dustin.

Um, and then we can solidify.

Does that sound okay to everybody?

Okay, yeah, okay.

Sorry, madam chair.

Let me just make one more note here and then I'll scroll back up to the top.

Do you know how many committees there are in total?

I have not counted.

That's true.

Sorry, my computers decided to not like this.

Okay, would you like me to just kind of scroll up and start at the top?

Or how how did you want to go through this, madam chair?

Yeah, go ahead and I guess we can start at the top right now.

I'm sure everybody watching at home is super dizzy now.

Did you want to run through it, madam chair, or did you want me to?

Uh go ahead.

Okay, so uh first on the list is uh thanks for correcting that, council member the Kaiser.

I know you did that last year, and I think we just pulled up the old version, so I apologize for that.

But the association of municipal councils uh last year, Councilmember De Kaiser and Councilmember Houseman were appointed with Councilmember Houseman as the alternate.

Do we have any volunteers for that one?

Yeah, I am willing to keep it if no one else wants to.

Sounds good to me.

And I'll note madam chair is stepping up with no one.

You could go ahead really like I've I've really enjoyed it, and you meet lots of people, and um I've learned a lot in it, so I'm I'm not tied to it.

That's all I'm saying.

I just did it because Cindy said you need to do it.

Yeah, I mean, I I just want to make sure you were not.

I don't want to see anything.

Right.

Okay, all right.

Councilmember De Kaiser, do you want to be the alternate?

Yeah, I was gonna say let's switch.

Are you sure?

Okay, and and I don't know that this is um necessarily helpful, but just for information purposes.

Um Councilmember Stroud did a very quick count of all of the open positions, not because some of them like Pooh Ab and ULCT have two and CDBG have two slots available, and she counted 22, which you know, not that we have to be even Stevens, and obviously, you know, uh schedules and interests need to align.

Um but that works out to roughly 3.14, you know, so three for um person.

It wasn't including all device.

Yeah, that was just main.

So anyway, for context, now continue.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh the next uh external committee is the uh South Valley Chamber of Commerce board.

And Councilmember Houseman and Councilmember Christianson both expressed uh interest in that committee.

Is that okay?

If you're not able to be able to just no, definitely, because it's I mean it hits mostly district one anyway.

So yeah, I'd love to do that one.

Thank you.

I'll be alternate okay.

Okay, so council member Christensen and then council member Houseman is the alternate.

Yep.

I'm sure if I remember correctly, um this is one that there were times where two of us went.

I mean, we don't we don't vote, so I I mean yeah, it used to be like that too.

There were some times that like two people would go, depending on who was coming and what we were doing for shite.

Okay.

So if you don't mind just keeping me absolutely perfect, and I'll I'll always note if if you're appointed to a committee and the alternate can't go and you guys need someone to attend, let me know, and one of our staff will go will go for you.

So I I wouldn't put a lot of concern into if you're gonna miss a meeting or so.

Uh okay.

So the next is the is COG, the council of governments, uh, Councilmember D'SUSE, Councilmember Nickel both expressed interest in that one.

And if I missed anyone, let me know.

Councilwoman Stroud has some um outside commitment or some committee commitments, and that's okay if they want to stay there.

Councilmember Stroud, did you express interest in that one and I just missed it?

Yeah, that's okay.

So I would like to still stay on COG as well in a primary position, um, kind of for the same reason that um it is one year, and there's only four meetings in the year, and also serving on an additional committee.

Like I'm I'm wondering if the structure that we have right now would be okay to maintain.

Is that okay?

Okay, is that okay, Chris?

Yep, it's okay.

Okay, so Councilmember D'SUSA and then Councilmember Stroud is the alternate.

Yeah.

Okay.

Next is the Jordan River Commission.

And um right now we have Councilmember Stroud and then Councilmember former Councilmember Robinson was the alternate.

This one is, it's I mean it it's uh a monthly one, and it's hard for me to get a substitute.

There's only so many doctors' appointments that I can schedule during the school year.

Um so it it is hard and it does overlap with one that I have through Wasach France.

Um so it it makes it tough for about an hour of both of them where I'm you know, if I'm virtual or then I'm either doing one or the other.

So this one is is one that it has been a challenge for me to try to navigate.

Um so if there's somebody that would be able to take it, that would be great.

And if we aren't, you know, if if we want to leave one blank for a minute and come back to it, you know, that's okay too.

So uh I I'd be willing to I maybe put a question mark because I know we're having many more conversations down the page, but um I've done that one, but it's I think I did it my first year.

It's been a while, and I'd be happy to I I love COVID too.

Yeah, when I yeah when I did it, so maybe it wasn't my first year.

I don't remember.

Can I willing to do it again?

Can I also you is it which which was at uh not Wasatch, but regional road.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Okay, that was all I had for that.

So question mark on actually, no, it's J Pack and my J Pack.

It is I didn't have that written up, so I'm not sure.

So yeah, put a question mark on that.

I was where is it again?

Where do you go for this one?

Um, just at the West Jordan Conservation Gardens.

They do have a virtual option.

I don't know if that's on there, but it says person is incurred.

It is, um, but they do have, and it does say virtual option, they do have that, but it um yeah.

Okay.

Um I was gonna say, you know, depending on how it all shakes out, that may work with my schedule, but I got to check on another committee too, but it's not something that if if somebody else wanted it, that it would be a problem.

Just trying to find to fill.

Okay.

Okay, should we move on to the next one for the time being?

Yeah.

Okay, so next is the Sully County Convention Facilities Advisory Board.

Uh Councilmember Sharkey uh said she's interested in continuing on that one, and I will note uh it was a bit of a process when Councilmember Sharky was originally appointed to this by you folks to actually get her uh on the committee.

And so if it is someone else, I'm not not pushing for anyone here, but if it is someone else, it'll be there'll be quite a few hoops to jump through, I think.

And we did discover that I mean their expectation is that you serve for three years, although we don't have to comply with that.

But it is the whole thing where you have to qualify to be a bona fide board member.

I am also on the audio visual selection committee.

That's gonna be going on for the next month or so, and that's a big deal for both of the um both the Salt Palace and the Expo Center.

So I'd like to keep it if it's okay with you guys.

If not, then that's fine too.

I'd like to see Cindy continue with that.

You you've talked about what the you're knowing you know what's going on with the construction, kind of the timeline, and I hear you're advocating for our uh convention center out here, which I've kind of been a loud mouth about that, but they're good, they're okay with me.

Yeah, so that's I think that's a good thing.

We broke them in.

I don't think anybody else has expressed interest, so I would put Cindy there.

Okay.

Uh the next committee is the Sandy Club Board of Directors.

We've got uh Councilmember Christensen and Councilmember Nickel that have both expressed some interest.

Chris, do you mind taking that one then?

Yeah, I think okay.

I know they love you there, so I can do that.

Thank you.

Oh, yes.

We did have an sorry, I missed it on the last page.

We did have an alternate.

Uh the alternate before was Councilmember Robinson.

Do we want to have another alternate?

I'm happy to be the alternate.

Cool.

Okay, next is the senior center advisory council.

And council member D'SUSA expressed some interest in continuing on that.

Um, we did have an alternate appointed last year as well.

Sounds settled.

Unless anybody is going to speak up.

Okay.

Did we want an alternate?

Can't we?

Do you need an alternate for that?

We just I I think it's fine to add an alternate if we have one.

I mean, I've I've attended them all, but about Marcy already as the alternate.

Oh, okay.

I was the alternate, but okay, yeah.

Do you want another?

I mean, you want a different alternate?

No, if you if you're okay.

If you're if you're if you're still available to be an alternate, then and that would be great.

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay, next is the uh ULCT legislative policy committee or LPC, and there are a few of you that express some interest in serving on that committee.

So this is one that I've never had the opportunity to be involved with because my kids were so little, it's dropping off and picking up time, but I'm available for that now, and I I really like the opportunity.

I'm gonna be a broken record on this, which is this committee is so important that anyone who signs up for it has to be available to go to every meeting, especially the the seven during the legislative session.

So that's a weekly trip up to the Capitol during the legislative session.

So I think it's super important that anyone that puts their hand up for that has to be ready to do that and to go in person.

I'm because going while there is a participation online, your vote your voice doesn't get heard and your vote doesn't get counted.

And that's what we're doing.

We're voting on positions we're gonna take.

And uh your vote doesn't get counted unless there's some question about in the room.

Are we meeting the 60 percent threshold to um to take a position?

Then we count votes online.

So being there in person is very real very important.

I can do that, I can commit to that.

Yep.

All right, so we we I think it sounds like we need more conversation on this one still.

So council member nickel, council member Sharkey, and Councilmember DeKaiser have expressed interest.

And De Kaiser and Sharkey have served on it before.

Um attendance has been important.

Is there any other conversation that we should have right now?

Do we want to come back to it at the end?

Were you able to go to all the meetings, Aaron?

I I think I missed one meeting in the session last year.

Um but yes, I go to the meeting, all the meetings.

Um, this one, I don't know if you saw there was like a big uh debacle.

I think I kind of wiped it from my memory when it happened, but yeah, I I mean kind of on this one, it's like there's so much to learn, there's so many people to meet with, and it just takes years of doing it, and so um yeah, I I would like to continue doing it, but maybe I mean if we want to have the discussion now, we can, or if we want to move on.

I'm I'm fine either way.

I'd really like to do it.

Um the it's really critical that you're there at all of them, and I don't think attendance has been quite at just missing one.

Um we can do a nomination two for that one for the second position.

I'm willing to do that.

Um it's a little odd, but we could do that.

That's why I brought up the in-person.

I don't my recollection is not that you were there for all the meetings last year during the session.

Of the seven meetings, I saw you at two.

Well, that is not true, but were you at the most recent meeting in person?

No, I was online, but I'm talking about the seven meetings during the session.

I I was there with the mayor in every meeting, basically, I think, except for one.

It's a small room.

I didn't see it.

But well, I don't want this to be an issue as far as far as I see.

I mean, I was in your same position um when I started on the council.

As far as I see it, I think you and Cindy should work it out because she's served for like four or five years or something and could rotate off, and I could continue building up the time and experience on that and do it with you.

Um, I think that seems like a totally fair position.

Um yes, I have attended my committee meetings.

Is anyone willing to do a nomination for the second position?

Madam Chair, are you open to that?

Or how do you want to handle this?

Go ahead.

Excuse me.

Let's go ahead and put a pin in this one if that's okay, and we'll go through the rest of them, and then we can come back to this one at the end.

Is that okay?

Sure.

Okay.

Okay, next is the uh waste and recycling.

Sorry, the waste management recycling district.

I think we've got that listed incorrectly.

Yeah, I know.

Well, waste and recycling.

Sorry about that.

I don't know how that got changed.

What is it, Cindy?

What are your bills saying?

Okay.

Uh council member Houseman has expressed interest in that one.

And it sounds settled.

Okay, next is the healthy city steering committee.

And if I got it right, Councilmember Stroud had expressed interest.

Every other month, it's easier.

Every month, does it have a day?

I mean it, oh, it's just oh it's like the first Thursday.

Oh, I see.

I had my pages backwards.

Apologies.

It's the first what?

First Thursday.

Okay.

I think I could make that work in my schedule, and I haven't served on that one before.

So if there isn't another person that's climbing two people or one, it's two.

No, it doesn't work with my students.

Okay.

It is two, right?

Yeah.

I'm done.

Yeah.

I want to do a thing with us.

Okay.

Okay, are we good to move on from that one?

Okay, so that is it for the external committees.

Now we're into the internal committees and the special committees.

Uh, the first is the arts guild, and council member houseman expressed some interest in continuing on the arts guild.

Yeah, okay.

Just clarifying, I wasn't the main.

No.

No, no.

Oh, I'm sorry.

We did healthy Sandy just now.

Okay for it.

There's a lot of them.

How many council member Stroud?

You just counted, right?

Four.

Twenty four.

She recounted.

Yes.

Okay, so Mar, or sorry, Councilmember Housman.

Uh you're wanting to be the primary.

It doesn't sound like there's any opposition to that.

Is there somebody who wants to be an alternate?

I can be an alternate if you need me to.

Okay.

Next is the community development block grant committee.

And council member Christensen, if I heard you correctly, you were interested in that one.

There's two.

Did you want to continue with me?

I'm happy to.

Sorry, Councilmember Stroud.

I had a hard time following the ones you did wanted to stay on and didn't want to stay on, so I apologize if I missed a few.

I had a hard time following myself too.

Okay.

Next is the Historic Preservation Committee.

And uh Councilmember Stroud and Councilmember Christianson both expressed interest in that one.

But I'm happy to be the alternate on that one.

Yeah, it hits us, it hits a class time the first after the first half hour.

So I'm happy to come to the first half hour of all of them.

Can I put something out there?

Not for now, but just you know, future thinking.

Um with the historic preservation committee, I know that district one, like obviously Stork Sandy is in district one, and so it makes a lot of sense.

Um but one of the things that um as an at-large council member that I've heard um from some members in um different districts is that we don't feel that the at-large council members have a connection to our district, and so it may be um interesting or good at some point to have an at-large member serve just to be able to make some more connection with those residents that um they also serve, but that's not to take away the importance from the district one, but um just wanted to throw that out there as a thought for future.

Okay, okay.

Next is the public utilities advisory board or PUAB, and Councilmember De Kaiser expressed interest in continuing.

Councilmember former Councilmember Robinson was uh appointed last year as well, so we've we've got two openings.

Uh one if Councilmember De Kaiser is gonna continue.

Did Chris did you say that was I was like okay?

I can do the morning one as well if we need two members, unless someone else wants to.

I've done it before, so it's a great committee.

It is a great committee.

Yeah, it sounds like it's yours if you want to.

Okay, okay.

Next is the Civic Center Architectural Committee, and uh Councilmember Sharkey and Michael both expressed interest, and it looks like we've got an alternate appointment on that one as well.

I'm not married to it.

I can do it, and I I like it.

So I'm just gonna say if you really want to have it, I'm willing to give it up to you.

Okay, you've said you have a couple others that you're except that you're on a lot more than I picked, so far, so I'll take that one.

Okay.

Do you want to just slot then?

Yeah, that's okay.

Okay, next is the Alta Canyon Advisory Committee.

And there are uh as of last year, two appointees to that.

Uh you know, I think this one was probably an alternate.

We maybe didn't note it.

No, I know.

There's two.

Did we have two?

Okay.

Yeah.

I I do, and I agree um with the idea of perhaps like reactivating in some way now that construction's underway.

I love the regular oh, she left, but I love the regular updates, and I think there's an opportunity to start, especially there's some things that have come up recently that I think that committee could help us think through.

So I would like to serve, continue serving in that.

Would it be open to someone joining me or you think to you?

You know, I've been on it for two years.

The first year we had one meeting, and the last year we had no meetings.

So I I I'm willing to step away from it because I've had it for two years, but on the other hand, I really do think we need to put more thought into activating and energizing that.

So agreed.

Anyone uh anyone want to help me activate?

When you have met, when did you meet time wise?

It was mid-afternoon, or lunchtime, right around there, we was just thinking on the flip side, you know, there's been conversation about you know district one not having a place there, and so that might be an interesting uh overlap, but scheduling wise, it may not work.

I I would I would be interested in um serving on a committee that hasn't met.

But we're going to we are going to that.

So trying to again re-engage the group.

Yeah, I'd love to have a thought partner in re-engaging.

I mean, all joking aside, yeah.

It'd be great to have someone do that with me, figure out what that could look like.

Okay, yeah.

Thank you.

Okay, next is the youth council.

Uh for last year it was uh council member Stroud and Councilmember D'Souza was the alternate.

Now, Chris, remind me what we decided on the timeline of this one.

Yes.

That's go ahead.

I think that's what as we looked so that we um then the kids, young adults, um, they would have you know two possible uh interactions with two different council members.

Yeah, so last year we changed it to calendar year just for simplicity and then on the it really um that's right.

Gives the option of uh the council meeting two sets of youth council cohorts, that's right.

And then it also made it easier doing this, and we don't have to bring it back up in the summer.

Yes.

Okay, so this one is open, or is it alternate?

And I think we had a discussion of saying, I mean, that can always change because if it had been like Ryan or Zach that had been there, but then the alternate would move into that primary role.

But I mean nothing set, so that would be if you were interested in moving into that role to have it, but yeah, okay.

I there there was discussion with that.

Okay, that thank you for that yes, the reminders.

Okay, we've had some discussions on trying to figure out how to align all of this.

So can I add one other wrinkle?

Yes.

If wrinkle, yes, if you um are going to serve uh as the youth council liaison, um, you can't also serve on as an ambassador because they meet at the same time.

Correct.

Yeah.

Yes.

So I will start by saying um the evening meetings have been difficult for me.

But the same, so if there is somebody that has the availability and the interest, um then I I'm totally open to it.

Otherwise, I um Thursdays work better for me evening wise than like a Wednesday does.

So all right.

It sounds like I am excited to serve as the youth council.

No, I didn't do.

I mean, if if it doesn't work for you, I mean I'm more than happy to continue with it.

It's really easy.

I mean, that's Liz and Chris just do everything.

They do, yeah.

They're great.

If if you're if you're interested in serve continuing to serve, and that's yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we whatever we had talked last year.

If that was your expectation, is for you to be taking that as the alternate, then that's because that's what we had discussed.

I think it's not.

I mean my my 14-year-old's extracurricular calendar has gotten me um around.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, I'd be happy to stay on it alternate if I'm ever needed.

So Councilmember Stroud and then uh Council Member D'Sousa is the alternate.

Okay.

Uh next is the liaison for the Sandy Service Ambassadors.

So you're aware the this there's a policy.

It's I don't believe it's a council policy, it's an administrative policy that notes that it'll be a council member and a council staff person.

Full disclosure on my end.

Thursdays are the absolute worst night for me.

And I missed most of these last year, as Zach Councilmember Rob Robinson could attest to.

Um if you would like me to continue doing it, I'm happy to, but just understand that I will miss a good chunk of them, unfortunately.

That's my kids' extracurricular night.

And it's on the same night as youth council, so it does make it difficult for us to have someone in attendance.

I would say it is what it is at this point, and do your best to make it.

I know Chris and Liz are running the youth council, and so that kind of puts them out.

And I don't know if you maybe maybe Justin and I can swap swap out and try and hit a few more of them.

So I know that's the um what it says, the policy, but could we just appoint two council members and see what happens?

It is it is not a legislative committee.

I can't speak to that.

Um we could have that discussion later on.

In my opinion, that sounds great, but it's not up to me.

I personally think that that would be a good solution, but again, like maybe so maybe that's we can appoint somebody um as an primary and then have the conversation um after this.

And back up or maybe we'll do it and then do an alternative.

They can make it when they can.

And so that way, if we just have an alternate, then if it does work out, then that alternate becomes kind of that second person.

I I mean again, we didn't create the policy around this, so I I can't say yes or no to that.

My my thought though is I think having a conversation about who the appointees can be is worthwhile, especially because the citizens that serve as ambassadors have expressed to us that they would like more involvement with council members, at least that's my understanding.

I don't want to speak for them.

That's what I've heard.

Uh we have one here.

She's shaking your head, yes.

Yes, and I'm I'm letting you guys know that that is a hard night for me to uh attend.

All right, well, then why don't we um appoint a primary and maybe even consider an alternate and and have a conversation with the administration starting tomorrow, see if that'll work.

Yeah, Erin, didn't you say you were interested in this one too?

I did, but I'm just like so I don't want to step on any toes.

I'm not Dustin missed both of my references.

I'm sorry, it's fine, it's fine.

I'm trying my best to capture everybody.

I'm yeah, I think that's great.

But we could put you down as an alternate.

I'm and then if we can have two people I'm totally fine with however this plays out.

Well Alice.

Yeah, I'm happy to be the alternate.

Would you guys like to list me on there still?

Yeah, it's a problem safe because that's what their policy setting is.

You can take my spot.

If uh if it comes up and you can make it, great.

If not, yeah, yeah.

I'll I'll do my best.

I attended whenever I could.

Um yes, I'm just trying just full transparency.

Uh okay, great.

Oh, I thought Aaron was gonna be the one.

No.

Okay.

Did I get this right or am I wrong?

Chris is the domain for sure.

Okay.

Did that work Chris?

Yeah, we want to do that.

Yes, yes.

Okay, next is the uh survey approval team.

So this is in um uh city code, and it notes the policy notes that uh we'll have a council member and then the council executive director uh as the two members of the survey approval team.

Um it's kind of a sudden thing too.

There's not always meetings.

Well, and I and just to expand on that, it's if it's on behalf of the city or if the survey will be used to influence you know legislation or budgetary decisions of the council.

And so whomever chooses to or is selected to be on this, I would recommend that the ordinance be provided to them and be um read just so that they can be familiar with the parameters of the activation of this group.

Yes, and and just to continue, there have been instances where it's been a you know more significant survey, and we've met as a committee and had uh you know the the group that produced the survey present it to us and we provided comments and such.

And then there's been other instances where it's a shorter survey, you know, two or three questions, and we haven't met to go over it.

Um whoever's drafted it has sent an email to the group saying, hey, here's the proposed questions, and then we've provided comment back via email before saying yes or no.

I can do oh I can do that.

If there anybody else that wanted it, okay with it if I had it before how many anybody, yeah, I had entrance.

Oh I'm I didn't know that.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I'm trying to keep track of like how many to make sure that's the same.

I can I couldn't tell which one you were wanting to keep and not so either.

So yeah, whatever.

It's do you want to do it?

Okay.

I haven't done it.

Okay.

And then Dustin.

Yes.

Um, in addition to sending it out to um the council member appointed, would you also just like send it out to um the administration department heads again too?

I think it's helpful just to reacquaint ourselves with the um ordinance.

Sure, of course.

Uh okay, that is the end of the list.

Let me go back up.

Uh I'll start at the very top.

We had a couple that we left in green.

Okay, I think the let me just make sure.

Yes, I believe the Jordan River Commission was uh one of the two.

So I won't be able to do that one.

Are you are you you were just you were gonna be the alternate, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, but you're not in the alternate.

I mean the alternate.

Right.

Is Sor the director of that still?

Yes.

Is he okay?

Wow.

All right, cool.

He's been there quite knowledge.

Yep.

Good guy.

And um Dustin, you said that if I'm ever, since since there's not an alternate here now, if I'm ever not able to make it, I can contact the case.

We're we're happy to attend some of these committees.

If it's if you have a voting position, they may or may not allow us to vote on your behalf.

That just depends.

Yes.

Um, but we're always happy to attend if if you can't make it for any reason, just let us know and we'll find a way.

Okay.

Well, I I think I I can probably be alternate if we need one.

Otherwise, okay.

You I just I do worry that I've I might kind of counting, keeping track that I am getting overloaded, and I want to be helpful and you know take spots where they're needed, but at the same time.

I think I'll be okay because of the virtual option.

I know they it says in person is encouraged, and that will be what I will try to do.

But sometimes things come up at the very last minute for me, and then I'm out of town.

They have snacks.

Well, like I said, things come up for the last minute.

So well, and when I can be in person, I will, but not the quality of the snack.

You know, it is just kidding.

It is in the it is like at a time that is more amenable to my schedule, also.

So if I I can go ahead and be alternate with you attending virtually even if if needed.

Okay, okay.

Sounds good.

Okay, and so that brings us back to LPC.

Karen, I really really want this.

Never ever been able to do it.

Ask Cindy.

No, it's between you and me.

Well, why?

Because everybody agreed to say I have two committees.

I have one.

We're trying to ration them out.

I have one.

But I don't I don't think that everyone just agrees it should be Cindy.

Well, I'll nominate Cindy for the first position.

I'll second.

I'll second.

Okay.

Um so we have two spots available.

A motion has been made for one spot to be council member Sharkey seconded by Councilmember Housman.

Um is there discussion on that motion?

So well I uh no, I don't have discussion.

Um other discussion, then I guess we go to a vote.

And Miss Edwards, if you'll go ahead and run that.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Miss Nickel, yes.

Ms.

Houseman, yes.

Ms.

Sharkey.

Yes, Ms.

D'Souza.

Sorry.

Yes.

Mr.

DeKaiser.

No.

Ms.

Stroud.

Yes.

Ms.

Christianson.

Yes.

Madam Chair, that motion carried six to one.

All right, thank you.

Go ahead, Councilmember Housman.

I'd like to nominate Chris Nickel for the second position.

Second.

Okay, again, we have a nomination for the second position and a second.

Is there a discussion on that motion?

Yes.

Go ahead.

I really hope that this year isn't just like me getting pushed around by the council members.

I feel like all of the logic of keeping Cindy on LPC would apply to me.

It's something that it takes time to build relationships with, which I've been doing.

And I mean, Lynn and Shane can attest to seeing me at these meetings.

I'm a little surprised by that, but part of LPC too is that you you put in the time to get into leadership, which Cindy attempted to do this last year and didn't.

And so I didn't uh and that's not a shot or anything, it's just like that seems to me to be kind of the point of it, and and as you as you do that and stuff.

Um and so it's something that I would you know continue.

I'd like to continue doing.

Yeah, it's it's my favorite committee, enjoy it very much.

Um, and have been happy to represent Sandy's interests.

Another thing too, we've already had three meetings this year.

Um there was discussion maybe last year about changing when this position becomes um nominated because um I've already been at three meetings in the year, and so I I would definitely like to continue my service in that role.

Thank you, Councilmember Houseman.

Uh thank you, Madam Chair.

I'll just I'll just share my perspective on why I nominated Chris.

Um it doesn't come down to how long Councilman Sharkey has served or not served for me.

For me, it's how how have I felt represented and how have I felt the members of my district felt feel represented.

I feel represented by Cindy Sharkey and the work that she does.

She reports regularly, she provides very detailed updates.

I feel very informed so that I can then go back and when I have questions from constituents, I feel prepared to answer those questions.

I have not felt that way from your year of service, Mr.

Kaiser.

Um I think it's important that we understand the the the voice of the council is critical at the Capitol, and I feel very well represented by Cindy, and I'm not comfortable giving that representation up.

Um and then I I feel like it is an opportunity for Miss Nickel to have exposure to that.

So in terms of if you're asking for justification or perspective, that's mine.

Thank you, Councilmember Housman.

You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna give my commentary on this too, since it's before us, and you know, I I did serve, and yes, there was some um heated discussion uh in a couple of years previous uh in this in the same regard, and I made an argument similar to the one that you're making right now, and um you are on the other side of that argument.

So, you know, I I I there's multiple ways to look at this, and I think that you know the way that council member housman has um kind of outlined it also um applies to me and all of the positions that may have some um that may be contested in the fact that you know I I I hope that um the council members serving included you know including myself come back to the council during council member business or um through conversation outside of council meetings when needed or necessary to gain insights and opinions to share as the liaison for the council and um and so that's that's kind of where I feel that my vote on this will come down.

Is there any other discussion on this motion?

All right, ums Edwards, Ms.

Housman, yes, Miss Sharkey, yes, Miss Nickel, yes, Ms.

DeSouza, yes, Mr.

DeKeiser, yes, Miss Stroud.

Yes, Ms.

Christensen, yes, Madam Chair.

That motion carried seven to zero.

Thank you, Miss Edwards.

Um it sounds like we have gone through all of the committee assignments right now, and you know, I I want to be um also sensitive to council members feeling like they do have an adequate opportunity to represent the council in the city where they may have interests, and so is there any um other are there any opportunities that somebody feels like they would like to um have a a word on before we completely move on?

Everybody feels pretty good with where we're at then I have one committee, but it doesn't sound like my representation is wanted much by the council.

Um I'm totally fine with just serving on one.

I just wanted that to be clear.

Okay, and I I don't I for just for what it's worth, I I don't feel um that your representation isn't wanted.

Um we were talking specifically about one committee, and I do want to ask you if there are other committees that you do have interest in.

Um I just want to make sure that before we move on, we're all good at this point.

Councilmember Christensen.

Well, I just I'm alternates on two committees, there and if you want to take either of those, I'm happy to I don't think so.

Okay, council member housing.

I know you have great interest in um water, public poo out, etc.

If you want Jordan River Commission, I'm happy to step down.

That's that one seems to be very much in your wheelhouse, something you're really excited about.

I really do appreciate that.

You're um right.

Um I don't necessarily how um is that like a main committee of yours?

It it is um I mean well stepping back into it.

I've done it before, so I have not been serving on it.

I would be stepping back into it.

Um, but I will tell you the conversations when I was on that commission, everything we discussed is right up your alley.

It's what you love.

Um and I I did get to stay on the Wolford, which was the one that was most important to me.

So I'm I'm really I really think that would be one you would enjoy, Mr.

De Kaiser.

Well, I would appreciate that, um, but I'm also fine like um it you know having one committee frees up a ton of my time.

Um but no, I I appreciate that.

I'd be happy to take that if you want to uh get rid of one of your five.

Thank you.

I I think Councilmember Housman, you can be alternate on the Jordan Water Committee.

Oh, because we just had that discussion, then there's okay.

How about that?

I'll be alternate.

If you're not able to go, you signal and I'll go.

Well, I'll say thank you very much, Councilmember Housman.

I appreciate that.

Yep.

All right.

Any more negotiating before we motion to adopt?

Go ahead, Councilmember.

Motion to adopt uh the committee list is amended.

Second just for the record, that's resolution 26-01c.

Yes.

We have a motion and a second for 2601C.

Ms.

Edwards.

Miss Christianson.

Yes.

Ms.

Houseman.

Yes.

Ms.

Sharkey.

Yes.

Ms.

Nickel.

Yes.

Ms.

DeSusa.

Yes.

Mr.

DeKaiser.

Yes.

Ms.

Strapp.

Yes.

Madam Chair, that motion carried seven to zero.

All right.

Thank you so much.

That concludes agenda item number four.

And takes us to five, which is a possible closed session.

And so before we get to that, let's go ahead and run through the standing reports.

If that works for everybody, we'll go ahead and start with you, Mr.

Fratto, for the agenda planning calendar review.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Okay, let me just go over the remainder of this month really quickly.

Next week, uh tentatively, we're still figuring out if it's gonna work or not.

I'll be reaching out to you guys hopefully tomorrow.

We need to get a count a new council photo.

And so we're really hoping we can at least get initial an initial one uh prior to the meeting next week with the idea that we'll get a really sh uh snazzy photo a little bit later on.

But we need we need a photo uh to at least uh start with.

Um so we're hoping to do that pre-meeting.

If anybody cannot make it by like a quarter two next week, can you let me know?

Marcy's giving me the look.

You're you're a no.

So we might have to do it at a different time.

I will be leaving in time to get here by 4 30, but I don't know what traffic we're doing.

Maybe we could do it at maybe we could do it after the meeting.

After Tuesday's meeting, we I will have to be here.

Yeah, I just don't know that I can guarantee.

We're all gonna look higher.

Well, that's incentive to make that meeting speedy next week.

Right.

There you go.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, we'll we'll talk about maybe doing it after the meeting next week, then.

Uh okay, so we've got the new Wasad Frame Wasatch Front Waste and Recycling District GM coming in to introduce himself and give us a little report on the uh kind of status of Wasach Front Waste and Recycling.

His name's Evan Tyrell.

Uh I'm gonna invite him to join us for dinner as well.

Go ahead.

I know he prefers TRL.

T RL, okay.

TRL.

I know it doesn't look like that, but that's what it is.

Councilmember Sharkey, remember that for next week.

Uh we've got um, so there was a state law passed um last uh legislative session related to some requirements for data privacy uh that we have to follow.

And um the there is a training video that we are all required uh to complete, and we're going to just like we've done with OPMA, the Ultima video, we're gonna try to watch that in the meeting uh next week just to ensure that everyone has completed that training.

Uh outside of that, we have a few tentative items scheduled still next for next week.

Uh there's an a code amendment related to dealerships and service centers uh in the Automall districts.

There is uh tentatively an update on a survey related to naming for Alta Canyon or former formerly Alta Canyon, uh tentatively an information item related to the Arbor building and bonding.

Uh we've got the advice and consent resolution for uh Mr.

Hill, who you just interviewed this evening, and we've got the tentatively we have a a vote for a bond item related to Art the Arbor building, though I doubt that that'll that'll be on.

Um we'll have to talk about that in agenda planning tomorrow.

And then we've got an RDA meeting.

We're gonna talk about uh the triangle property uh which is lot three west of so west of the soccer stadium.

Uh there's a purchase sale agreement that needs to be discussed, and then an ILA between the city and the RDA related to the HTRZ.

Okay.

I will send out uh the agenda planning calendar on Friday after our meeting tomorrow.

Uh that is it for the that update.

Let me just cover a couple of other things really quickly.

Uh a reminder, local officials day is on the 21st of this month.

If you would like to attend, please let Chris know before this upcoming Friday so that she can get you registered.

Okay.

Um and then our management study.

So the contract is being routed for signatures right now.

Uh we're gonna hold a uh kickoff meeting with staff sometime this month that hasn't been scheduled yet, and then we're already uh discussing with um matrix, who is our consultant.

I'm happy to go over that with the two new council members at some point as well to talk about a potential site visit uh at the end of this month, beginning of next month.

So I'll continue to provide you with updates on that as they as they come, but we're still just finalizing getting that contract executed.

And that's it for me, Madam Chair.

Thank you.

Thank you, Dustin.

And so for uh the two new members, we've it's I've just typically gone down and around, but I don't have to do it in that order.

If anybody would, so I don't know, Councilmember Nickel, do you have anything you'd like to share?

Yes.

Uh I want to share and thank the employees that came to the council member swearing in.

It was great to see everybody there.

Um it was humble and uh felt like a family.

My family was there, and I just again it was an awesome event, Chris.

Thank you very much, Dustin, James, and Liz.

You guys put in a lot of work to that, and it it showed thank you very much.

Councilmember Housman.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um, I will also express my appreciation um for all that went into yesterday swearing in, and and I know I said it yesterday, but congratulations again to re-election, re-election, just delayed, we're back.

Um just thrilled for the opportunity to serve alongside um all of you, grateful for the effort to, and I agree.

There was a there was like a vibe in the room.

It just felt it was simple, it was good, it it just felt yeah.

Your your remarks, all three of you, your remarks were right on target with with shining a light on what we are about serving on the council.

So I just appreciate that.

Um yeah, no, thank you.

And welcome again.

Um the only thing I had in the form of an update is just a kind of a uh something I've shared previously, and I think it's in the works, but just want to reiterate.

I really hope that as a council, um a new council that we will move forward with another council priorities, budget priorities workshop, like we did.

Um would love to, you know, invest in a consultant like we did.

I think it was really, really helpful.

Um, and I know now we have a new chair, so chair, I I'm I'm hoping that we can as a council support that and and just continue the effort.

Um, and then just I invite everyone to think about uh it's 2026, and a lot of people do new year's resolutions, but for many years I've done one word.

John Gordon has this um one word initiative, he's been going on for at least a decade, and uh he invites people to think instead of setting goals and you know, all of that, but to think about one word that will guide us in the new year.

And so I do that personally, like I pick a new word every every year that will serve as my individual guide.

I'm wondering if it might be fun as a council uh to pick our one word that we could have a little fun throwing around some some words that that could guide us, you know, and then we we settle on one I don't know hashtag one word that is our council, a shared word that that guides us in this in the new year 2026.

So you can like not like the idea at all, and it will not hurt my feelings, but it is a thought I had that could be a fun little work session exercise of kind of thinking about one word.

That's all I had.

Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you, Councilmember Houseman, Councilmember Christensen.

Um I just want to echo what has been said and thank everyone who has supported me and our fellow council members in our new role, not so new.

Um I'm excited to be here, and I like the word idea.

I will say I like the word idea too.

I like the fun little thought exercise and trying to see if all seven of us can agree on one word.

That'll be fun.

Um again, just thank you, Chris and Dustin and Justin and Liz for everything that you put into yesterday.

Um I felt it was incredibly successful for what it was, and um appreciate you and I appreciate all of the staff that was able to make it.

If staff wasn't able to make it, we completely understand the challenges that you know in scheduling and whatnot and everything else that everybody has to do.

So no hard feelings.

Um we know you love us.

Um and if you don't, I think you do, so don't ruin it for me.

Um I I genuinely look forward to to this new year and working with this council makeup, and I um feel encouraged um by who we are and what we can do together.

So thank you, everyone.

Councilmember Strapp.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I had to look back, it's been a while since doing things.

Um so we had uh Dan Medinas, his retirement.

Um I just missed him, left him a card, and hopefully it rang true to him for a full eight hours.

Um but uh talked with him and he is going to to miss Sandy, and we're gonna miss him and you know big shoes to fill there, Mr.

Hill.

Um but uh that was so that was just before Christmas.

Um and then also uh we had the Hill, they had their signing ceremony.

Sharky uh, you know, paid off that bond 17 years early.

I mean, that is incredible.

Um they you know, and then just kind of some small talks, some interesting things things there.

We're also able to kind of tour the new Beehive Education Center and super excited uh to see when that is completed.

Um, you know, looking at that ribbon cutting and and what they're going to be doing.

Uh they also mentioned that they had people purchase tickets from 48 of the 50 states this last year.

So, you know, when we talk about world class uh theater performing arts right here in Sandy.

So, you know, a great, you know, an excellent community partner um working with us.

I mean, they've they've always been so uh receptive and pleasant to work with, you know, and and uh you know done an excellent job.

So um those were the couple of updates that I had.

Thank you now, Chair.

Thank you, Councilmember De Kaiser.

Thank you.

I did uh just want to say welcome to our new members and really look forward to working with you and building relationships.

We've done that in the past, and um so very excited about that opportunity in a new year working with the other colleagues.

Um not clear on is if in the housing workshop we gave direction to community development.

Um that seemed kind of up in the air, but I feel as a body we kind of need to have a uh uh like a recap of the workshop and kind of what where we're gonna go from here.

Um the primary thing on my mind is ADUs.

Um I you know brought that to the council, I think in February of last year.

So it's almost been a year.

There was some work to pass that, and then um we had a discussion about not doing that until after the workshop, and now the discussion is kind of like well, let's see what happens in the legislature, uh, which I don't necessarily agree with.

I kind of want Sandy to lead out and maybe have them react to what we're doing, but there's so so so much work to be done on housing.

So I'll definitely be reaching out to the chair to see what we can put on and uh see what consensus we can have as a council to benefit the housing needs of our residents.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Councilmember Sharkey, and then before we go on, I there was something that I had meant to mention that I didn't, so okay.

Councilmember Sharkey.

You mean we have to wait for your big reveal?

Yes.

Okay.

Well, thank you, Council members, for selecting me as the next chair.

I look forward to that.

I also want to spread the love a little bit about how good yesterday felt.

It you know, for me, it one aspect of um of this council that's really nice is that we have a veteran council, that there's no ramp up time, that everybody knows the job, knows what to do.

I've always found that there is a long ramp up period for new um council members who had no idea what they were getting into.

I often say that it's a year until you have your feet underneath you and even have a clue what you're doing in a full term before you're really competent at it.

And so I'm really glad that we've got so much institutional knowledge and past experiences that come back to help us for good decision making, right?

The broader the experience, the better, and the broader the perspectives, the better it makes us.

So I appreciate that.

Um you know, it also occurs to me that in the discussions that we've had about policy and um and about our swearing in.

I also was able to go and represent Sandy at Mike Wickers, Mayor Wickers um farewell.

Well, you know, every election we gain people and we lose people right now is a filing period.

All of our legislators, all of our Sandy legislators are up for election this cycle.

So uh and relationships are important, and we've built relationships with them too, right?

And so I always worry about a situation where we've built those relationships and then we have to build them anew.

It's just a part of the landscape, but um I'm looking at that too, always hoping for the best for Sandy and the best people to step up and represent us.

Um we also just um Councilmember Stroud and I were able to attend the police swearing in just before this one.

And um they had a big crowd.

I was jealous.

They had a big crowd, but we had a big group that was there to celebrate promotions and new hires, and thank you for inviting us.

And thank you for inviting us.

Please always do.

We we really enjoy going into the police, going to the police and fire swearing in.

You know, I mentioned the convention convention facilities advisory board, believe it or not.

So the selection, I'm on the selection committee for the uh audiovisual uh contract.

It's a three-year contract.

Um and believe me, it's the biggest thing.

I mean, if you think about it, every single event that they host has the A V contractor doing something.

It's either setting up for, you know, it's setting up for a business convention or trade show or something.

It's it's a real it's a giant piece of what we do.

So we'll be s making a selection for the contractors that provide uh that submitted RFPs ranged from global AV corporations to small local and regional companies.

So but it's for what the SALT Palace does and the growing needs of the Expo Center, it's a really big deal.

So we'll be selecting somebody for that.

Thank you, madam chair.

Back to you for the big announcement.

Thank you.

Okay.

Um council member Houseman reminded me that you had previously uh championed the idea of having the budget workshop again or the priorities for the council.

And so Justin and Justin had looked into it, um, had come back, and so before um I left this position, so new chair, um, just so you know, we did schedule it.

He's available on the 27th.

Yeah, it's the last chance, it's the last Tuesday in January, the 27th.

Okay.

And we're we're working on a contract with him to kind of do a recap of what we came up with last time, and then to look at those priorities and see what's changed.

Yes, and so I just wanted to say that it already has been scheduled and calendared and gives the new council members an opportunity to experience that to see if that's something that we continue to find helpful or not.

Um, and you know, I think that we're all hoping too that we can take um where we were and again like make those changes, but figure out how we can maybe even move that move forward just even a little bit further if possible.

So that was my big announcement.

So now if it doesn't show up, I'm just kidding.

Madam Chair, can I comment on one thing that I also forgot about?

And then just a response to Councilmember DeKaiser's question about the housing the closing to the housing workshop.

I'll start with that.

So we are gonna put together a final report, as we mentioned during the last workshop that will go to all of you with the holiday break.

It just hasn't happened yet.

So I'm I'm leading out on that, and we will I'm gonna start working on putting that together.

Well, I shouldn't say start, I've started, I'm gonna finish putting that together, and I'll get it to everybody as soon as we can.

We'll meet as the planning group before we finalize it.

Um but it'll just be a recap.

Here's what happened, here's what came out of it, here's our perspective on what the direction is that we've been given.

So it should answer your question, and then we can have some more discussions about it later.

Okay.

Um and then the last the other thing I I had forgot to mention, which I it was number one on my list here.

Um I just wanted to thank the uh facilities staff.

I I don't know if Brian's here anymore, but okay.

Yeah, I wanted to thank facility staff.

They were really helpful in the uh oath of office ceremony yesterday.

If you got here at 8 a.m., there was a half-built Christmas tree and a bunch of like scaffolding in the hallway, and they worked really hard to get that all put away.

So we gave them some council cash just as a thank you.

Um but they they were really helpful, and I just want to pass along some major kudos to them publicly.

So thank you.

Thank you.

And then that brings us into the mayor's report.

Thank you.

I'm gonna uh offer a report for the uh mayor wanted mainly talk about legislative session, which is coming up on uh January the 20th.

During the course of the session, I'll uh provide updates during the uh uh as we go on week by week.

Uh we uh you know, going back in time, we did have uh some meetings with our legislators uh back in December, but mostly I wanted to spend time on on uh updating on a survey since we were just talking about the survey approval team, one of the surveys that just went through that team about the legislative priorities.

Um so this was a chance for Sandy residents to uh to uh comment on the things that they feel are priority.

So the uh the rundown that this is a just as kind of a recap the way this works.

There's a poll of 859 people that the invitation went out to Sandy residents, uh 382 responded, so the results it comes back with about a plus or minus five percent.

Uh 382 responded, so the results that comes back with about a plus or minus five percent.

So the numbers I'm gonna um mention, you know, think that it could be as high as five above and as low as five below.

Um the the first question that was asked was when it comes to local zoning rules and and local taxes and fees in Utah communities.

Which level of government do you think should make the most uh should make these uh most of these decisions?

And 82 percent came back and said city governments, probably not a huge surprise, but it was also a very big uh result.

So 82 percent said city government.

Second question uh had to do with uh well it says this.

How much do you agree or disagree with the following statement?

The range of housing costs in Sandy should match the range of people's incomes.

And when this breaks down, there were 55 percent in the uh strongly agree or somewhat agree, and 21 percent in the somewhat disagree or strongly disagree.

So think about that as kind of a two-to-one ratio uh with uh you know clearly more than 50 percent of the residents say that that's an important issue.

Um the uh the third one was a broader question.

It said, you know, of these, and there were about seven or eight items that were listed, and it was asking people of these seven or eight, which five uh do you think are most important?

So it gave people an opportunity to uh pick five.

The top three that came out on this have greater than fifty percent.

So you know, pretty comfortably we could say that half the people that uh that took the survey and representative of the uh community said these these were top three items for them.

So first one which came in at 66 percent.

Uh first one was the local land use authority.

And the question and the statement says this support local governments keeping the authority to make zoning and land use decisions for their communities.

So that came in at at uh 66 percent.

Right behind it at 64 was about water fees, and this one says water fees and water bills, and uh the statement said oppose a fee on water and water users to fund capital projects that have already been done, unless there is a clear path or unless there is a clear path to residents.

Uh third one came in.

This was 56%, so still you know, greater than half, even at the even at minus five, it's still uh 51%, was little Cottonwood Canyon transportation.

Uh support prioritizing enhanced bus uh busing and shuttle services to reduce little Cottonwood traffic.

So those were the first the top three that came in on those.

Uh the next two came in kind of a next tier at uh the number four was housing affordability, and number five was about the municipal property tax.

So uh those were the the uh items that came out on top, and I thought it was also interesting, the one that came at the bottom, which had to do with wildland urban interface fires.

And so the statement was oppose a new fee for potential wildfire suppression costs unless there's a clear plan to benefit residents.

You know, interesting because it's a citywide survey, and clearly this is an issue that not everybody in the city faces.

So, you know, you could read into that and say, well, you know, people didn't prioritize it.

I, for example, um, you know, where I live, I don't come anywhere close to any kind of wildland interface, and so uh there may be a a number of people that that put that lower on the priority list because it it uh simply didn't affect them.

So that was the uh that was the survey.

Um if you haven't seen it, happy to send out a link so everyone's uh got that.

Uh but that just concluded it was done at the very end of December.

Um and it was uh it was one of those short surveys that we talked about earlier.

So that's the uh update there, and if you don't have it, I'll be happy to pass it along.

Thank you.

Uh thank you, Ray.

Yeah, if you wouldn't mind sending that to Dustin and then you can disseminate, that would be helpful.

Thank you.

Um CAO report.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Um first up, just a couple of uh um events coming up.

The business appreciation luncheon is on February 4th.

So um we'll make sure that gets on your schedule.

Second one is a fire swearing in, which will be on February 15th at 6 p.m.

And that will be at the new fire station, fire station 31.

Uh the mayor asked me to thank everyone who attended uh the mayor's swearing in this week.

Uh also specifically Charlene Wells, Jay Francis, the Canyon School District, the students, the facilities, and the um residents for attending um that swearing in.

The canyon school district was fantastic.

They were extremely helpful.

And um the space was wonderful for the uh swearing in.

So the last thing is I'd like to personally thank our council chair for the last six months.

I think that she's done a very, very good job and kept the meetings going, had some tough issues to deal with.

Uh which I thought she did a really good job with through that time period.

So thank you.

Thank you, Shane, and thank you.

I appreciate that.

Um that brings us back to the last item, which is the possible closed session.

So I can go through all of my paperwork.

Uh I am going to move that we hold a closed session to discuss the purchase, exchange, or lease of real property and the character and or competence of an individual.

We'll hold it in the council area.

Do I have a second?

Second.

All right, thank you.

Motion and a second.

Uh we'll roll call vote.

Ms.

D'Souza.

Yes.

Ms.

Sharkey.

Yes.

Ms.

Nickel.

Yes.

Mr.

Deck Kaiser?

Yes.

Ms.

Stroud.

Yes.

Ms.

Christiansen.

Yes.

Ms.

Houseman.

Yes.

Madam Chair.

That motion carried seven to zero.

All right.

Thank you very much.

And then Mr.

Pace, if you'll um alert us to who would be attending.

Uh Dan Nelson, Casey Dunlavey, uh Martin Jensen, and Brian Kelly.

Oh, of course.

And Mr.

Pace Lynn.

All right, thank you.

Oh, she's not doing that.

No, it's it's actually not.

Oh, I startle easily, I promise.

My husband listened to me all the time.