Good morning.

This meeting will come to order.

Welcome to the April 16th, 2026, regular meeting of the Government Audit and Oversight Committee of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.

The committee clerk is Monique Critton, and our thanks to James Kawana of SFGov TV for staffing this meeting.

Madam Clerk, do you have any announcements to begin today?

Yes.

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Finally, items acted upon today are expected to appear on the Board of Supervisors agenda of April 28th, 2026, unless otherwise stated Thank you, Madam Clerk.

And first I would like to make a motion to excuse Chair Fielder from today's meeting.

Yes, and on the motion to excuse Chair Fielder from D from today's meeting.

Member Sherl.

Aye.

Member Sheryl, I.

Victor Sauter.

I think Vice Chair Sauter, I have two ayes with member with Chair Fielder excused.

Thank you.

And that motion passes.

Yes, item number one is a motion directing the budget and legisl and legislative analysts to initiate a performance audit in 2026 of the Sheriff's Office.

Thank you.

And we have Francis Shea here this morning on behalf of Supervisor Chan to present on this item.

Francis, please.

Good morning, Francis Shea with uh Supervisor Connie Chan's office.

Uh supervisor apologizes she's not able to be here.

Um I am here to request the committee support uh on this motion uh directing an amendment to the uh uh the audit schedule for the budget and legislative analysts uh to perform a performance audit on the sheriff's office.

Um Mr.

Dan Goncher from the BLA's office can provide a little bit more detail in addition to what is in the motion about um both the details of the motion as well as the timing.

So I will pass it on to him.

Uh Vice Chair Sauter, Dan Goncher from the Budget and Legislative Analysts Office.

Uh so um here to speak about this audit motion.

I just want to give some context.

Um under the board rules that we are required to provide the Board of Supervisors with a proposed audit schedule by January 15th every year.

So that that was sent out to the board.

Um and that provided some suggestions for audit topics.

Um that started a conversation with the chair of the of this committee.

Um and that uh is my understanding is how uh the audit motion that is on the agenda today was proposed um to uh conduct a performance audit uh of the sheriff's office in this coming year.

Um the audit motion details some specifics um with most of our performance audits.

It's they are either program-wide or department wide, they're pretty broad scopes, and we go through a process, an initial stage of the audit where we narrow down what we see as the high risk areas.

Um oftentimes though the audit motions um that are passed by the board include specific things um directing us, you know.

It yes, do an overall performance audit of this department, but please make sure you look at these things, and some of those things are outlined here.

Um this specific audit motion.

The conversation I think started with looking at overtime outside of the police department because the BLA conducted a police department overtime audit uh a few years ago.

Um and Sheriff's Office is one of the larger departments that has overtime and it's been a perennial budgetary issue for for the department.

I'm available for any questions on this or or the audit schedule.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And that's very helpful.

Thank you both for the context.

Um with that, let's please go to public comment.

Yes, members of the public who wish to speak on this item should line up now along the side by the windows.

All speakers will have two minutes.

Mr.

Chair Pierce, we have no public comment.

Thank you.

Seeing uh no public comment, public comment is now closed.

And I would like to make a motion to send item one to the full board of supervisors with positive recommendation.

Yes, and the motion to forward item one to the sorry, sorry, sorry.

Before we vote on this motion, can I just ask a couple quick questions?

I'm realizing I just had a I'm sorry.

Please Chair Soder.

Um Chair Miyamoto, do you mind if I ask you just a couple quick questions here?

I just want to make sure I fully um I fully understand here.

Um just what's what's you know when we look at the annual budget of the sheriff's office, what's the biggest cost driver you have just overall?

For our overtime or for budget itself.

Just budget itself, but but especially kind of overtime, because that's I think one of the things that's that's mentioned here.

Yes, good morning, and I appreciate the opportunity.

Um staffing minimums that are mandated by our collective bargaining agreement with both the Deputy Sheriff's Association and the Managing Supervisors Association are the main driving force behind the overtime.

Okay.

And and right now are you projecting to need a supplemental from the general fund to meet that?

Uh we just completed our nine-month review, and uh we're looking we've made significant reductions in our overtime over this uh the past few pay periods.

Uh we're still going to continue on that path.

Right now, our internal projections are that we're going to come out even uh and uh close to being within budget.

Okay.

Um and what what kind of resources from the department does an audit like this take?

Uh audits have a significant impact as we have in the past.

We've uh worked with and collaborated with the uh both the mayor's budget office, the budget legislative analyst had a review for us, I think, under the previous administration under Sheriff Vicky Hennessy regarding staffing.

And uh we're always open to working with people.

Right now, though, we are challenged with having resources to make sure that we get the information to people in a timely manner.

Uh currently I'm while we've been focused on hiring deputies.

I'm currently down 29 supervisorial positions, uh Lieutenants and Sergeants, which would be the main group of individuals who would help with this type of audit.

Uh we have a planning and project division, which would be the collaboration point between us and uh the BLA in regards to conducting an uh uh audit, and uh we're challenged with staffing in that area right now.

Okay, thank you.

Do you mind I'm just trying to understand context here?

So you mentioned that you make some annual recommendations.

Um my assumptions is those are based on who's been audited recently and who hasn't.

But how how are those recommendations come to the So there are uh yes, several factors.

So the board rules, I think, state that every program should be audited at least once every eight years, which is maybe not possible given the number of programs, but that is one factor.

Um we also look at budgetary impact and other risk factors um of issues that come up.

Um the last audit of the that uh we have records of of the Sheriff's Department of a performance audit was 11 years ago in June of 2015.

Um it looks like uh that was an audit of uh workers' compensation and overtime.

Okay.

And how do you try to work with um the department to ensure that they have the resources available to complete the audit to get what to get you what you need?

How do you balance that with some clear staffing?

Yes, so um we try to be as uh as light touch as we can.

Um we do have access to the city's budget system because we're you know going through the budget process for the board every year.

So we try to pull as much as we can from there and from website, you know, things that are publicly available.

Um we do try to work with the schedules of department staff to make sure that we can fit into um their busy schedules.

Um I would say the probably the the most time um uh from department staff is collecting information that's for us that's not necessarily publicly available on the front end, but we do again, we say if anything is publicly available, just let us know, we'll grab it.

And then on the back end when we have our draft report and we provide that confidentially to the department um to give us comments back.

So they have to read through a draft report and let us know if they have disagreements.

Great.

Yeah, look, I think you know you highlighted the every eight years, and I think that makes a lot of sense.

It's a great way to build trust in the performance of our departments.

I have every sense of faith that the Sheriff's Department will, you know, be able to display some things publicly that will build trust with with residents, especially I think on some of the elements about immigration here.

Just want to make sure that we don't kind of incur some some additional unnecessary costs.

And that's not to say that this audit is unnecessary, I assure you.

I just that's just the one thing.

There's a very broad audit, so I want to make sure we don't un Okay.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Thank you, Sheriff.

Thank you.

Thank you, Sheriff.

And uh thank you, Supervisor.

Uh Madam Clerk, can we go back to the motion, which is to send the item to the full board with positive recommendation, please?

Yes, and on the motion to forward this motion to the full board with a positive recommendation.

Member Sheryl.

Member Sheryl I, Vice Sheriff Sawder?

I.

Vice Sheriff Slaughter, I have two eyes, which Sheriff Field are excused.

Thank you.

The motion passes.

Madam Clerk, could you please call item number two?

Yes, item number two is a resolution accepting the Sheriff's Office Military Equipment Use Policy 2025 annual report and inventory and approving requests for purchase and use of additional equipment consistent with the criteria set forth in state law.

Thank you.

And we have our sheriff and the sheriff's office here to present the item.

Please go ahead.

Yes, good morning, supervisors, and thank you for the opportunity to uh to present on our military equipment use policy for 2020 2025's annual report.

Um we have some additional equipment approval requests here and uh I'd like to direct you to our uh slide deck here.

We provided you with our entire public presentation in the interest of time and presentation of materials.

I'd like to uh share with you this reduced uh slide deck to highlight specific areas where we're seeking approval for two new equipment platforms.

Uh one is the drone as a first responder uh DFR, and the other is a tear ball grenade.

Um if you can go to the next slide, please, Lieutenant.

Uh I have with me, Lieutenant Worthkey, who will be working the slide deck.

Uh again, this is uh to continue use of our MIAP policy, the equipment that we have in our MIAP policy uh to add these two items that I just mentioned.

And the first item, the drone is first responder, is something that I believe you are familiar with.

Uh this mirrors the technology and use of drones that the police department currently engages in with Artic, the real-time in information uh investigation center.

We currently had small unmanned aircraft systems in our MIUP that has permitted us to uh enhance our capabilities and work with the police department.

Um the additional ask, next slide, please, is for the drone as first responder program, the current technology that the police department uses.

Uh this is not only to augment Arctic and our partnership with the police department in Arctic, but this is also to provide us with the technology necessary to help with the management of our facilities and properties out at San Bruno.

Uh we have our large jail out there uh through our custody operations division.

We have our training unit and our training uh assets out there.

Uh but more importantly, we have a new facility out there, the Annex, uh, which we've been using for our increase in jail population that has outdoor recreational and outdoor sunlight access capabilities for our inmate population.

Uh the drone use out there would be helpful in enhancing our security measures out there and uh the technology, as I mentioned, is uh the exact technology that the police department currently uses.

If you have any questions of that, uh I'd be happy to answer them.

Um the second item that we have listed as something that is new for review is the tear ball grenade.

The capability of this is what is new, but the materials inside, which is OC oleoresum capsicum, which is pepper spray, uh, is not new, and it's something that's currently in our inventory.

The delivery system is one which is consistent with delivery systems we currently have for tear gas for uh uh less lethal uh gas materials such as CS and CN.

Uh we currently have that in our inventory as well, and this is just an additional uh deployment method for an item that we have.

Um I believe that was the those are the only two items that we have that are new.

Uh everything else, next slide, please.

Uh everything else is basically replenishment of items that we have used during the reporting period and maintaining deployment readiness with our limited quality quantities of items that we had listed in our report to begin with.

Uh at this time, I open and happy to answer any questions that you may have.

Thank you, Sheriff.

Uh, and we have questions from Supervisor Sherrow.

First of all, thank you, uh Sheriff, for being here on this one.

Quick quick question for you.

What are the cost drivers of the drones that you mentioned that it looked like $250,000 a piece?

So like I'm ignorant.

What are the cost drivers behind these drones being a $250,000 apiece?

The $250,000 estimated cost is for a one-time implementation.

These are basically the same drones that the police department currently uses, where they are housed in a unit that is placed on the rooftops of buildings.

So it's the whole system.

Exactly.

Great.

Thank you.

So very different than what I'm reading about in the newspaper.

Okay.

Great.

And then can I confirm that this resolution doesn't appropriate more money, but just allows the purchase of already approved technology from existing money?

Do I have that correct?

Yes, that's correct.

Okay.

Great.

And then did I hear this correctly?

Do we need to supplement a quantity of technology that necessarily wasn't used, maybe replenishing some stock, or is it replenishing stock that was used?

I think I would have to do that.

Yeah, for the that's a great question.

Uh for the DFR program.

This is to uh not to supplement something new.

We have drones, but we don't have the DFR capability to do that.

Okay.

Okay.

Great, great, great.

All right.

Thank you.

I really appreciate that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Supervisor.

And Sheriff, I and within the policy, I know it lays out the requirement of a community meeting.

Um has that already happened or will that happen?

You know, it just says that within the language within 30 days.

Yes, we had a meeting on January 6th uh of this year.

Uh and we had public uh presentation of all these materials.

More comprehensive than the slide deck I gave you today.

Understood.

Um I know there was a more comprehensive presentation that you circulated with us, so thank you for that.

Um with that, I think we should go to public comment, Madam Clerk.

Yes, members of the public who wish to speak on this item should line up now along the side by the windows.

All speakers will have two minutes.

Mr.

Chair, we have no public comment.

Thank you.

And with that, public comment is now closed Okay.

Uh I would like to move to send item two to the full Board of Supervisors with positive recommendation.

Madam Clerk, could you please call the rule on that?

Yes, and on the motion to forward item two to the full board with the positive recommendation.

Member Sheryl.

Member Sheryl, I vice share slaughter.

Aye.

Thank you.

And the motion passes.

Madam Clerk, could you now please call items three through eight?

Yes, items three through eight are five ordinances and one resolution authorizing an approving settlement of lawsuits and unlitigated claims against the city.

Please note that item number eight will be referred to the full board as a committee report for consideration on April 21st, 2026.

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

Um colleague, any questions?

Okay, very good.

With that, uh Madam Clerk, could you please open up public comment this morning?

Yes, members of the public who wish to speak on these items should line up now along the side by the windows.

All speakers will have two minutes.

Mr.

Chair, we have no public comment.

Thank you.

And public comment is now closed.

I would now move to send items three to seven to the full board of supervisors with positive recommendation and item eight with positive recommendation as a committee report.

Yes, and on the motion to forward items three two three through seven to the full board with a positive recommendation and item eight to the full board with a positive recommendation as a committee report.

Member Sheryl.

Vice Sheriff Saudder, I have two ayes, which Chairfield are excused.

Thank you.

That motion passes.

Madam Clerk, is there any other business this morning?

That completes our meeting agenda.

Thank you.

And we are adjourned.