Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of the American Republican justice as well.

Vice President Benedict, I'd like to take roll.

Please.

Uh Commissioner Techie is excused.

Commissioner Scott.

Commissioner Liang.

Commissioner Yi.

Here.

Commissioner Elias is excused.

And President Clay is excused.

Vice President Benedict, you have a quorum.

Also with us tonight, our interim chief Paul Yepp from the San Francisco Police Department and Executive Director Paul Henderson from the Department of Police Accountability.

Thank you, Sergeant.

Welcome to members of the public to our October 1st meeting of the police commission.

We are uh shorthanded, but we'll soldier on nonetheless.

Sergeant, please call the first item.

Line item one, general public comment.

At this time, the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the police commission.

Under police commission rules of order during public comment, neither police or DPA personnel nor commissioners are required to respond respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response.

Alternatively, you may submit public comment in either of the following ways.

Email the secretary of the police commission at sapd.commission at sfgov.org or written comments may be sent via U.S.

Postal Service to the public safety building located at 1245 Third Street, San Francisco, California at 94158.

If you'd like to make public comment, please approach the podium.

Good evening, police commission, Chief Yep and Director Henderson.

For the record, my name is Chris Ward Klein, and I also go by Sergeant Klein spelled KLINE of the United States Marine Corps.

And we still work even if the federal government continues to shut down.

Briefly, every city has a Oracle system, a cloud system that defines the cultural makeup of a city.

So last night I attended the tender lane police community meeting, and I attend most about 70% of those meetings.

And it was discussed in the last month that there were three homicides, three additional shootings, and two stabbings with three suspects.

Those numbers are very high compared to the last several years.

Um previously I talked about this equipment, and I handed a report here to the Board of Supervisors and to the police department concerning equipment on top of the Asian Art Museum and the main library.

And just last week there was a shooting with a shotgun, and it's very concerning that someone thinks it okay it's okay if someone says to do your drug somewhere else to pull out a shotgun to shoot somebody.

That equipment is only supposed to be turned on during declared emergencies, like an earthquake or a major fire or a riot.

When that equipment is turned on, you could take your phone and walk underneath of it.

You will feel anxiety.

And that is what happened.

That person had anxiety, he was frustrated, he got mad because someone told him what to do.

Chief, yeah, if you go back to 2017, there was a serious incident at the main library, and that is when the equipment was turned on.

That is a good starting point.

Um there's a couple wins with the tender line.

Last night they um introduced three females that are going to be community foot um foot patrols.

That's a tremendous effort going forward.

And tomorrow, Captain Sullivan is going to be um at a at glide Freedom Hall from 10 to 11 with coffee meeting meeting a cop introduction.

I applaud those efforts.

Thank you.

Hello, my name is Jennifer Wagner.

I'm with the League of Women Voters of San Francisco.

Um I'm here to ask on behalf of the league a question that we started asking in April, and we've had several emails about it.

Um we would like you to agendize on a rolling basis, which was the best practice that we've seen over several years.

Pretext stop discussion.

Um, the community really needs to know in advance when you're going to have those discussions.

It took me almost an hour to get here.

I didn't have an umbrella.

People have to arrange child care.

If you don't tell us in advance when to come, we can't come.

Your volunteers, I know how much this disrupts your schedule, so please let us know.

We also wanted to specifically ask when you discuss it.

What has been been done in response to the DPA audit?

We want to ensure that their concerns are addressed.

Chief Scott was very clear that he took that seriously.

We'd like to hear what has happened in the transition.

That was called SFPD action is needed to ensure the completeness and accuracy of stop data.

So again, I'd like to know when this is going to be agendized, and it would be really great if you let the community know in advance.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms.

Wagner, and thank you to the League of Women Voters for their um continued commitment to this issue.

Good evening, Commissioners.

My name is Paul Allen.

I previously submitted to you a document urging you to go on record opposing the introduction of an uninvited militarized force under the police under the streets of San Francisco to with the National Guard.

Since since I submitted that two weeks ago, the uh guard has gone uninvited into Los Angeles, Washington DC.

The threats are going into Chicago.

As we speak, apparently they're headed up the coast to our friends in uh Portland, Oregon.

If that is not shocking and alarming enough, yesterday we heard that the cities of America can be the quote-unquote training ground for the United States military.

A statement that is redolent of fascism.

In light of that, my call uh for the police commission, which I think is uniquely suited to this to adopt this sort of a statement, uh, is more urgent than ever.

I'm reminded uh in this regard of many of one of the many wise statements from Martin Luther King Jr.

That uh in the end we remember not so much the words of our enemies as the silence of our friends.

Now I am fully confident that in the event the Humvees were to appear on the embarcadero, this commission would speak up.

But in my in my view, there's no reason to wait for that.

Uh the matter is critical.

Silence is not going to help us.

Uh it is never too early to act upon principle and common sense.

It is never too early to call out the kind of phony excuses that have been set forth for the introduction of these forces onto our streets.

In short, it it is never too late to do the right thing, and I think this commission is uniquely suited in the city of San Francisco to lead the effort on that and to speak out first.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr.

Allen.

I'll share with my fellow commissioners.

I spoke to Mr.

Allen just before this meeting and intend to work with him to submit a draft resolution uh to the commission on this subject for us to consider.

Hi, I'd like to use the overhead.

Um I come here to bring up again the discussion of the policy, the the art the um legislation that was uh made um concerning the ways to pay tipsters.

And I'm coming because I want to find ways to get it out to the public.

Even though I come here, it's still not the public doesn't know about these these this new legislation.

Even though we've had meetings and all of that, but we would like to find other ways to get this out to the public about the ways to pay Tipsters.

And these are the four things that I am mainly concerned about.

Um, and this what I'm saying too, because the mayor has signed this into ordinance.

These this is his signature 62725, and till to this day, I don't think many people know about this ordinance, about this legislation.

So I would like to find other ways working with uh uh Kevin Pinadicto and Matty Scott about getting this out even further, um, so that mothers like myself can heal.

We need this to be out more.

We need other people to know, we need other mothers and fathers to know that they can testify because people that have been incarcerated that have been arrested and family members can now testify.

So we want to find ways to get this out there even more.

I want to show me what to do.

I will go do it.

So let's work on this.

I will bring this back next Wednesday again.

If we can just meet up together and find ways to um to get this out there even further for to the public and housing complexes uh wherever it needs to be.

Thank you.

Commissioner Scott.

Yes, thank you, Ms.

Paulette.

And we uh did discuss this at the uh congressional national day of remembrance, and we will help you further to get it out as we said, and the newsletters, um, newspapers, and um church bulletins.

There's a whole list of areas that we can get this information also, people will know about upcoming events regarding crime victims united of survivors for safety and justice and united players uh upcoming gun by back so we can work on work with you vice president uh Benedicton and myself can work on you to help get this information out there.

So thank you.

That is the end of public comment.

Line item two, consent calendar, receive and file action.

Department use of non-city entity cameras, first and second quarter 2025.

Uh, can I get a motion to receive and file?

Motion to accept and file.

Commissioner Yee, can I get a second?

Commissioner Leong.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding the consent calendar, please approach the podium.

There's no public comment on the motion.

Commissioner Scott, how do you vote?

Commissioner Scott is yes, Commissioner Leon.

Commissioner Liang is yes, Commissioner Yi.

Yes, Commissioner Yi is yes, and Vice President Benedict.

Yes.

Vice President Benedict was yes, you have four yeses.

Line item three, chief support, weekly crime trends and public safety concerns.

In terms chief, yeah.

Thank you, Sergeant.

Good evening.

Acting President Benedito, um, police commissioners, Director Henderson, members of the general public.

I'll begin my update with follow-up and update from previous commission meeting questions.

The face pass mask department notice, department notice 25092.

It has been posted on our website.

Staff is still reviewing the new legislation, which is Senate Bill 805, with our current policies to ensure compliance.

There was a question about human trafficking units uh staffing.

Currently, there are five full members, which I reported out, three sergeants.

Uh well, actually, one acting lieutenant, three sergeants, and one officer that comprises of five.

Uh for human trafficking or assigned to human trafficking, and the question was about previous staffing.

Previously, there was only one sergeant assigned to human trafficking.

So that is my update there.

I'll go ahead and get into weekly crime trends for the summary for the week ending September 28th, 2025.

Overall part one crimes are down 27% year to date compared to 2024.

Total violent crimes are down 18% for the year.

There's a decrease in 25% for homicides.

Gun violence is down 24%, rapes are down 15%, assaults for the year are down 14%, robberies are down 25%.

Human trafficking incidents are up 100%.

I did address why we think that's occurring uh at previous commission meetings, total property crime is down 28%, burglaries are down 29%, larceny theft is down 23% overall.

And I did want to comment that auto burglaries over a two-year period, it's compounded.

So it's actually down 75%.

So approximately 50% last year, 25% this year, so over the span of two years.

We've really um, yeah, thanks through good police work um all around uh that we've really put a dent in that crime, which I know is plaguing San Francisco for for years.

Okay, I'm gonna get into significant India incidents.

I'm gonna start with a shooting that became a homicide that occurred on September 26th in front of the main library.

I'm actually gonna read from the news release that was just released last night because it's relevant and it's current.

On September 26, 2025, at approximately 4 51 p.m., San Francisco police officers responded to the area of Larkin and Grove Streets regarding a shooting.

This is in front of the main library.

When officers arrived on scene, they located a victim suffering from an apparent gunshot wound.

Officers rendered aid and medics arrived on scene and transport the victim to the hospital for life-threatening injuries.

During the course of the investigation, a suspect matching the description provided was located and detained by San Francisco sheriff's deputies and SFPD off SFPD officers.

Officers developed probable cause to arrest a 42-year-old male.

I'm not gonna say his name here for the shooting.

Uh that suspect was transported and booked into San Francisco County jail for the charges related to the shooting.

This is the update.

On September 30th, yesterday, 2025, the victim succumbed to his injuries.

The SFPD homicide detail was notified at that point and took the lead.

Is now taking the lead in the investigation.

The investigators will work with the DA's office to update uh the suspect's charges to reflect that update that I just the medical update that I just read.

Another notable operation effort that happened during this week on Sunday, September 21st.

A coordinated effort focusing on illegal dirt bite activities was conducted by members of the citywide plain clothes team, real-time investigation center, drone as first responder, and the stunt driving response unit.

Officers use technology like ALPR or automated license plate readers, drones, and surveillance cameras, along with physical, so kind of old-fashioned physical surveillance, that with officers on the ground to seize vehicles and make arrests when possible.

During the operation, six dirt bikes and an ATV were seized.

Four arrests were made.

Four of the dirt bikes were identified as being stolen from throughout California.

Two individuals were cited for driving without licenses and registration violations.

Another notable arrest during the week on September 27th at 9 50 a.m.

on Myrtle Alley between Lark and Polk and Lark Larkin Street and Polk Street.

This is an antenna line.

At about 9 50 a.m.

There was a physical alterate altercation between a victim and a subject on Myrtle in that location.

During the altercation, the victim sustained stab wounds.

The victim was transported for medical treatment in stable condition.

A short time later, a call.

We received the call regarding a person bleeding in the area of Ellis and South Ben S.

From reviewing footage obtained from the Arctic, it was determined that this was the subject involved in the earlier stabbing that occurred at Larkin and Polk.

The subject had a laceration to his wrist and was transported in stable condition also.

Once medically cleared, the subject was placed under arrest for the stabbing.

There were there was a few traffic collisions of significance.

One that I'm going to mention is a solo fatal traffic collision that happened on Thursday, September 25th at 1.58 a.m.

A vehicle was traveling westbound on the 2100 block of Mariposa, approaching Harrison Street in the mission district.

The vehicle crashed into the lobby of a building coming to rest near the garage area of the location.

Medics arrived, and the victim was unfortunately pronounced at the scene.

We do have events that are related.

There's numerous to list, so I'll make sure that that's noted and published on our website.

I just want to bring up some large-scale events, major events that are coming to San Francisco.

Hardly strictly Bluegrass is coming October 5th, 6th, and 7th at Golden Gate Park, Hellman Hollow.

And Lindley and Marks Meadows, the Castro Street Fair is Sunday, October 5th.

Fleet Week activities, although I think some of those are questionable at this point, are scheduled to start on Sunday, October 5th, run through the 13th, October 13th.

And I know connected with that is uh parade on the 12th in North Beach.

Um, and that ends my report for this week.

Thank you.

Thank you for that report, Chief, and thank you for that um that Euroview perspective on auto break-ins.

I think it's really something that's been great to see.

Just a couple of questions before I turn it over to my fellow commissioners.

One, I know you mentioned that some of the fleet week activities might be affected by the ongoing federal shutdown.

Are there any other operational challenges that SFPD identifies related to the shutdown?

Like, for example, at the airport, if there could be increased, if there could be like you know, decreased TSA presence of there might be just want to see if there are any implications from the shutdown from the SFPD perspective.

Yeah, I haven't been made aware of anything specific yet, but um, you know, we are prepared as a city to ensure that with all the resources we have that we will leverage to make the city safe during that period.

Right.

Uh, and then my next question is I I know that um Ms.

Brown and we've discussed ways in which SFPD can play a role in publicizing um the the changes to the TIPS policy uh signed into ordinance.

I wonder if I could ask if you could have someone from CED and maybe communications reach out to me and Commissioner Scott uh this week.

Like I uh particularly I think SFPD's channels could be useful, and I think uh the SFD communications team has is fantastic graphic design skills.

I imagine they could make a very good like small flyer that we could distribute at community events like the um you know uh West Bay buyback of things like that.

So if you could have someone from CED and communications who are willing to uh assign to this, contact me and Commissioner Scott this week.

That way I can provide Ms.

Brown an update before our next meeting.

Yes, I know they have materials that they're ready because on the day of remembrance for her son, we did uh did make an announcement then, but we yeah, absolutely we'll um we'll update those and uh we'll work with you to use our um communication channels to get the messaging out.

Thank you, Commissioner Scott.

And for my fellow commissioners, there's a glitch in our system, so once you're done, you're gonna have to remove your own self from the from the queue.

Uh Commissioner Scott.

Oh, thank you, Chief, for that report.

Um, and especially with the homicide rate going down.

Um, I wanted to also thank you for the um officers that attended our uh visual um for the congressional national day of remembrance for murder victims.

Um so thank you for that and your support.

Um I wanted to ask the legislation that um Paulette Ms.

Paul Brown have.

Um, is it possible that that can go on the police's website?

Um, yes.

Uh I'll definitely, you know, the same comms team also updates our website, so that is something that I will request for them.

Okay, thank you.

And we'll see too that it gets on other websites as well and law enforcement.

So, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh seeing no other commissioners in the queue, we can go to public comment.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item three, the chief's report.

Please approach the podium.

Yes, I'd like to use the overhead again.

Um, thank you.

I was told that that was supposed to be on the uh police commission's website before, but I haven't seen it.

I looked and I didn't see it, so I'm hoping that it gets up there on the police commission's website.

I bring this here, my son RPRCasa, um, who was murdered August 6th, August 14th.

30 rounds of bullets left that gun into my son.

To this day, I still seek justice for my son.

I also bring other victims that have been their lives been lost, and and the cases aren't solved.

I bring other victims where cases aren't solved.

This is what the perpetrators left me.

I know that I've sewed these pictures all the time.

But this is the only way that I can communicate with everyone.

This hits home for me.

This is what the perpetrators left me.

A lifeless body, a decaying body, versus this smiling face that I always see of my son.

I will never see that again.

All I have is remembrance.

These are the perpetrators had that were involved with murdering my son.

One of them are deceased.

It's either one of these two.

And they're still walking the street to murder again.

What do we do about this?

That legislation will help someone to tell on these perpetrators, especially Paris Moffat and Hannibal Thomas.

They're the ring leaders.

And everyone knows it.

Thank you.

Any member of the public has any information regarding the murder of Abre Abracassa?

You can call the anonymous 247 tip line at 415-575-444.

Line item four, DPA Directors Report, discussion, report on recent DPA activities and announcements.

Executive Director Henderson.

Thank you.

The increase in complaints this year's compared to this point last year is relatively consistent with over the past few months with 152 more cases opened in 2025 year to date than in 2024.

That's a 27% increase.

As explained in the last commission meetings, a significant significant portion of those increases can be attributed to the improved and more integrated referral system that's coming from DEM's 311 system.

This week our caseload is 8% higher, which is about 17 more cases at this point in time than this time last year.

The most common type of complaint that came in this week was involved allegations for officers speaking or behaving inappropriately with the public.

Again, these are allegations that were made to the office.

We are working hard to keep pace and maintain a relatively stable caseload.

We've opened 710 cases year to date, and we have closed 718 year to date cases.

We still remain 100% in compliance with our 3304 deadlines as of last Friday, 20 September 26th.

We have 11 cases whose investigations have taken longer than 270 days.

All but one of those cases are told.

Just to clarify, I know typically I talk about one case.

When I'm talking about there's one case, there are different cases.

So cases are getting closed, but they pop back up.

It's not the same case that is still tolling or that is still dragging beyond uh our tolling dates.

Uh and this is a case that will also be closed out very shortly.

That is not a one of the sustained cases.

Uh in terms of highlights uh within DPA, we're still continuing to uh our internal process to optimize efficiency for and improve our reporting capabilities.

We've so far already completed a full inventory of our report and data points.

Uh what this does is sets the stage for our clearer, more timely, and more useful reporting for the commission, SFPD, community partners, and the public.

I talked before about uh getting a survey to the commissioners at this month, but it's gonna take you'll have it before the end of the year because what we're finding is we want to make sure that it reflects the information that we are clarifying with SFPD specifically and our community partners as well, but you will have something before the end of the year specifically for the commissioners.

I just want to keep you updated on what we're doing and how we're doing it.

Uh internally, we have a few new uh operations.

We've developed an automated message for complainants so that when people come in uh to help keep complainants informed throughout the investigation process and to introduce mediation as an option for them.

So the first message that they receive automatically will confirm that the complaint was received, explain what to ex what to expect for the process, and provide helpful links and a specific pin enumerated for the complaint that comes in so that they can track their cases.

Uh, if mediation is an option, complainants get a separate message with a program overview, the benefits, as well as a short video that explains the process.

Uh, and we found or we're hoping to find that that cuts down on some of the questions that people have about how the process works beyond the complaints that they are presenting to the agency.

Uh tonight here in the audience is senior investigator Ali Schulteis.

Uh, if case issues come up during uh today's meeting where we have questions, and if folks want to get in contact with us, uh the website is sfgov.org forward slash DPA.

Our phone number is 415-241711.

That completes my report.

Thank you very much, Director Henderson, senior commissioners in the queue.

We can go to public comment.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item four, DPA director's report, please approach the podium.

There's no public comment.

Line item five, commission reports, discussion and possible action.

Commission president's report, commissioners' reports, and commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at a future commission meeting.

Thank you.

Um just a quick report.

Uh from myself this last Sunday, along with Commissioner Scott.

Uh we had the distinct privilege of attending the general body meeting of the NAACP San Francisco chapter.

Uh Miss Brown was in attendance as well.

I really want to thank the leadership of the NAACP, San Francisco, and uh the tremendous uh for the tremendous welcome and the opportunity to hear the community's feedback uh on the ongoing chief search process.

This was in addition to the various listening sessions.

It was uh a real privilege to be in that in that sacred space at their adaptist and stand at that pulpit and hear and hear from folks.

So it was an honor to do that, and thank you for all those who provide attendance, and thank you to Commissioner Scott for setting it up.

And that concludes my report.

I'll turn it over to my fellow commissioners.

Yes, I want to um thank everyone who participated on um September 25th last Thursday, which is the Congressional National Day of Remembrance for Murder Victims.

Just want to thank all of you who attended, all of our uh officials, Mayor Lurie, um, SFDA um Brooke Jenkins and the Sheriff Miyamoto and SFPD, um Deputy Chiefs, I am and uh Lem.

Um it was just a wonderful event to support all of our mothers and survivors of that have been impacted by any type of violence, not just gun violence, but violence, period.

Um, so the Congressional National Day of Remembers is held every year um nationwide.

And I just want to thank all of our supporters out there, our commissioners who attended and supported us, and um thank you, Chief Yep, for your representation and and everyone and um we look forward to um our next upcoming event with um United Players for the uh gun buyback and our next visual that will be held in December and looking to um have all of your support.

And thank you, uh Vice President Benedictal, um, as we both attended the NAACP representing um SF commissioners here.

Um, thank you, Dr.

Reverend Amos C.

Brown and the NWCP leadership for having us and for everyone being there and um being present to um educate the public on what we're doing here at the police commission and the hiring of a new police chief.

So it was very well attended, and uh appreciate everyone's support out there.

That completes my report.

Thank you.

No other seeing other commissioners in the queue, we can go to public comment.

If any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item five, commission reports please approach the podium.

There's no public comment.

Line item six discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order 6.13 hate crimes for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law.

Discussion and possible action.

All right, um, there's no presenter here.

Commissioners have the um summary sheets for DJO 6.13.

We received the presentation on the 10th of September.

Uh and this has some slight revisions.

Uh Commissioner Liang um noted just before this meeting started, there was one additional uh change.

Uh that and we also double-checked the statute.

So there's the amendment is if folks look at um page one of the DGO, uh at section A, it says actual or perceived characteristics, and that's consistent with the statute.

Uh and then it B, but it does actual or perceived protected characteristics, and again at E.

Uh, and after speaking to Commissioner Leo, and after taking a look at the penal code just before, I think the language used in the penal code is negative attitude towards actual or perceived characteristics.

So just to be consistent, uh I'm gonna propose that we uh send this to meet and confer with the with the final with the following change.

Removing the word protected from 6.1302B and removing the word protected from 6.1302E for consistency with the statutes and the rest of the DGO.

Um, and can I get a second on that motion?

Any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item six.

Please approach the podium.

Yes, I was just thinking about the um the hate crimes, and I was thinking, isn't it a hate crime when our children are killing each other?

Is it our different nationalities are killing each other?

And why do we categorize it on different nationalities when it's all hate crimes?

We hate the color of our skin, we hate our communities, and we're killing each other because we hate each other.

So I'm not understanding this this here, but I my son's murder was a hate crime.

Um the way he was murdered.

He wasn't the person that the intended target, but just out of the hate, they murdered my child.

So all of our children are being murdered from hate crimes.

This is definitely hate crimes, and what do we do about it?

How do we stop this?

What do we do about um solving these hate crimes, Asian hate, Filipino hate, black hate?

What do we do?

So I just wanted to bring that up and I'll read this some more.

I'm not understanding it much, but hate crime is a hate crime, and our children were murdered due to hate crimes.

Maybe because of the color of their skin or their nationality, or because we're in a different turf.

Don't be on my turf.

You know, how do you define it?

How do you define hate?

So what do we do about it?

Well, thank you.

There is no further public comment.

On the motion, Commissioner Scott.

How do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes, Commissioner Liang?

Yes.

Commissioner Young is yes, Commissioner Yi.

Yes.

Commissioner Yi is yes, and Vice President Benedict.

Yes.

Vice President Benedict was yes, you have four yeses.

Line item seven, discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order 5.08, plain closed, non-uniformed and undercover officers for the department to use and meeting conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law.

Discussion and possible action.

Thank you very much.

Uh, before we commence uh this item, I just want to note for my fellow commissioners uh that I think we have the presenters tonight, so we should ask questions, but I think that uh there have been a couple developments with this DGO.

We received a letter from the public integrity unit of the public defender's office just today and have not had a chance to substantially substantively review it.

Additionally, I know the DPA has some substantive edits they would like to discuss with the department, and thirdly, Commissioner Elias is the assigned commissioner to this DGO and is ill tonight.

Uh I think it's helpful to have the discussion to ask questions, but uh I'm not gonna make a motion that we uh that we vote on it at the conclusion of the discussion.

Um so please go ahead.

Good evening, Chief.

Yeah, uh Commissioners and Director Henderson.

My name is David Goff.

I'm a lieutenant with the Field Operations Bureau, where I currently oversee the citywide playing close team.

Captain Steve Jonas and I were the assigned subject matter experts for the reason uh for the revision of the general order 5.08.

The DGO was last updated in 1996.

There was a pause in the revision process back in 2023, a revision uh revisions resumed early in 2025.

Can you put the mic up?

Thank you.

The department received 49 comments during the public review process, which prompted further revision.

The following are some highlights of major changes and updates to general order department General order 5.08.

The title was updated to include plain clothes and undercover officers.

The definition section was expanded.

We created a section to cover enforcement procedures differentiating between plain close and undercover operations.

We created clear guidance for when playing close officers may or may not initiate vehicle stops.

We added some new sections, we added new sections to provide guidance for exposing firearms, complying with uniformed law enforcement officers, out-of-county operations, and duties of supervisors.

As a reminder, the commission issued a resolution in 2023 that requires the department to rescind the plain closed and undercover operations bureau orders once this DGO goes into effect, and that's for the Field Operations Bureau, Investigations Bureau, and the Special Operations Bureau.

And that was issued in April 4th of 2023.

The overall goal is to have a policy that is easy to follow and sets the standard for public safety or for uh safety for public criminal suspects and our officers.

I'm happy to take any questions.

Thank you very much, Lieutenant Doff, for that presentation, and I I definitely agree this DGO is long overdue for revision.

I think a lot of the changes are definitely positive.

I think there were three areas that I wanted to get your take on.

I think some of these might overlap with what DPA and the public defender raised as well.

At 5.0805 A, where plain closed officers, non-uniformed and undercover members right now, should not be used to make arrests in crowd control situations.

I think the last time the commission approved language that was shall not, and it still had, I believe, the the caveat that unless there is uh you know a danger to life or great bodily injury.

Can you explain why the department it changed from a shall to a should for this?

So from what I understand, if there's any deviation or any option other than shall not, it would be a should.

So essentially the idea that there are an except there are exceptions in this were you know danger to uh reasonable cause to believe there's danger to life or suspect or uh possibility of great bodily injury, there uh is a should, whereas prior there's a shall in the crowd control.

I see.

So it's that the fact that there's an exception at all is the reason why.

There's a should and not a should.

Okay.

Um and then second, uh, just uh above that on C under vehicle stops, uh, when initiating vehicle stops members shall request a marked backup unit as soon as practical, and I think that prior versions of the DGO had that as immediately, and I wonder if you could speak to that change as well.

Um so the reason we have um when reasonably uh, sorry, um, is because as officers are stopping that car for whatever violation, uh playing closed members specifically, uh the primary job is to ensure safety of obviously the public, the officers, and the suspect as they make that traffic stop.

And common practice is that we request a marked unit respond, but our primary objective is to ensure that the scene is safe prior to getting on the radio and requesting a marked unit.

I know that the existing policy has it as immediately.

Has that been flagged as a problem in practice that the current language says immediately?

I'm not aware.

Okay.

And then last, I want to talk about 5.08.10 under exceptions about deputy chiefs may approve deviations from this policy for specific units.

Are you?

I haven't seen a lot of DGOs where there's sort of a specific deviation language in that.

Is that something?

Are you aware of other DGOs where we have similar language?

I'm not aware of any other ones that do.

I don't know at that point.

Okay.

Um I think it would be worth looking into whether I I you know I think we already there's discretion built into our DGOs already, and so I wonder if it tends to mix message to have deviation language in one DGO, but not in others, so it might be something worth worth considering.

Yeah.

Those are my questions, Commissioner Leong.

Just have one comment.

Going back to the vehicle stops section that you had referenced earlier, Vice President Benedicto.

5.0, excuse me, 5.0804, I think subsection Cubs subsection three to that indicates that when initiating vehicle stops, members shall request a marked backup.

Is this specifically to non-uniform members?

And if so, should it say non-uniformed members in this last provision as well?

Or is this generally applicable to all members?

I think number three is specific to playing clothes officers and non-uniformed members, yes, requesting a marked unit.

Should it say that then instead of just members?

Because right now it just states members, which could be construed as everyone or every sworn member.

Um I think that it I kind of just assume that it was in that category for that to be plain close and non-uniformed members.

I guess specifying plain clothes and non-uniformed members wouldn't change too much.

Well, yeah, because it in the prior sections it specifies playing closed non-uniform and and undercover members.

So I just wanted to reconcile the different language.

And if it's intentional, then that's fine, but just wanted to point that out.

Understood.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Any other commissioners with questions for Lieutenant Duff?

Okay.

Um, you know, I again I know we received a letter uh just today about some of the policy, and I won't ask the department to respond to that since we got it just just hours ago.

But I think it makes sense between now and this coming back to uh review those changes suggested to see which makes sense and and which don't, and and then and I know DPA has some as well, so maybe a meeting with DPA uh before this comes back uh I think makes sense as well.

All right.

Uh thank you, Sergeant.

You can go to public comment.

Any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item seven, please approach the podium.

There is no public comment.

Line item eight, discussion and possible action to adopt revised department general order 1.08 community policing.

Discussion and possible action.

All right, fellow commissioners.

Uh we don't have a presenter on this either.

This was presented to us uh recently.

Um after it has come out of meet and confer.

There was a single substantive, a non-substantive edit.

Um that was suggested by uh Commissioner Yi, and it's now back before us.

Uh, this is the community policing DGO.

I will move that it be um finally adopted with a 90-day implementation time frame requested by the department.

So station captains can prepare district specific plans and work with community leaders for implementation.

I'll second.

Any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item eight, please approach the podium.

There is no public comment.

On the motion, Commissioner Scott, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes, Commissioner Leong?

Yes.

Commissioner Leoung is yes, Commissioner Yee.

Yes.

Commissioner Yi is yes, and Vice President Benedicto.

Yes.

Vice President Benedicto is yes, you have four yeses.

Line item nine, discussion and possible action to adopt revised community policing and problem solving manual.

Discussion and possible action.

All right.

Commissioners, this is the manual that accompanies DGO one point uh zero eight that we just uh discussed.

Um we held them so they could be voted on together.

Um Commissioner Tech you met with the department uh to discuss it and was comfortable with this going forward.

Um so I would like to move that we finally adopt this manual with a 90-day implementation time frame.

I second.

Any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item nine.

Please approach the podium.

And there is no public comment on the motion, Commissioner Scott.

How do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes, Commissioner Leon?

Yes.

Commissioner Leong is yes, Commissioner Yi?

Yes.

Commissioner Yi is yes, and Vice President Benedict.

Yes.

Vice President Benedicto is yes, you have four yeses.

Line item 10 discussion and possible action to adopt revised department general order 8.09, media relations discussion and possible action.

Okay, commissioners, we also do not have a presenter for DJO 8.09.

We approved this by resolution on July 9th and was sent to meet and confer, which concluded on September 10th.

I'd again like to uh thank the POA for moving this through meeting confer expeditiously.

You can see there was one change that was made at the top of page two, 8.0904.

We had some discussion at some length about this about who to discuss who to contact when providing statements to the media.

The final language says members shall contact the media relations unit or the on-toe supervisor after providing statements to the media.

Uh, with that change, I will move to finally adopt DGO eight point zero nine with a thirty-day implementation timeline.

Second.

Any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding line item 10.

Please approach the podium.

There's no public comment.

On the motion, Commissioner Scott.

How do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes.

Commissioner Leon.

Yes.

Commissioner Leo is yes.

Commissioner Yee.

Yes.

Commissioner Yee is yes.

And Vice President Benedicto?

Yes.

Vice President Benedict was yes.

You have four yeses.

Line item eleven.

Public comment on all matters pertaining to item thirteen below.

Closed session, including public comment and item twelve, a vote whether to hold item thirteen in closed session.

If you'd like to make public comment, please approach the podium.

There's no public comment.

Line item twelve, a vote on whether to hold item thirteen in close session.

San Francisco administrative code section sixty-seven point one zero D action.

Can I get a motion to go into close session?

Motion to go in closed session.

Second.

All right.

On the motion, Commissioner Scott, how do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Scott is yes.

Commissioner Leon?

Yeah.

Commissioner Young is yes.

Commissioner Yee?

Yes.

Commissioner Yee is yes.

Vice President Benedict.

Yes.

Vice President Benedict was yes.

You have four yeses.

We will go into close session.

Okay.

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All right, Commissioners, we are back in open session on line item fourteen.

Vote to elect whether to disclose any or all discussion on item thirteen held in close session.

San Francisco administrative code section sixty seven point one two Action.

Any member of the public would like to make public comment regarding item fourteen, please approach the podium.

Seeing none on the motion, Commissioner Scott.

How do you vote?

Yes.

Commissioner Leo is yes, Commissioner Ye.

Yes.

Commissioner Ye is yes, and Vice President Benedicta.

Yes.

Line item fifteen, adjournment.

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