We need to order the type is 606 and I'm gonna call the roll call Nikki Washington.

Yeah, Malika.

Malika.

Malika, partner.

Jason Hammond, Absent.

Nicholas B.

Sades.

Here.

Absolutely.

Sarah Bailey?

Here.

At work cable.

Yeah.

Are there any?

We're gonna go into item number one B announcements.

Are there any engineering division announcements?

No announcements.

We're gonna close that item.

And now at this moment, we are in public comments.

We're not taking public comments.

This is the time with any person and dress the commission on matters not listed on this agenda.

Do we have any public comments?

No public comments.

We're closing that item.

So we're number three discretion items 25440, which is the elect commission chair vice chair.

And I'm gonna put this for Nicole to take over.

Thank you, R.

Sally.

Um the item before us is the election of chair and vice chair.

These positions are typically elected annually.

Given that we are conducting this election in late September, these individuals elected today will serve through December 31st, 2026.

Does anyone have any questions on why it's that date?

Um I'll just quickly say it's because some of you um will be turned out on that date depending on if the district you represent has a council person that may not be the same after that date.

Um so that being said, um, just a quick overview.

The chair presides over all regular and special meetings, um, preserves decorum and order at meetings, announces decisions, decides all questions of order and votes on all questions.

Um the vice chair is elected on the same term and serves as the presiding officer in the absence of the chair or upon request of the chair.

No member can serve more than one successive full term of one year, or in this case, then one year as chair, provided that this limitation may be weighed upon a finding good cause by an affirmative vote of a majority of the members, did everyone hear what I said.

So we're available for any questions regarding the election process.

Um if there's no questions, we will proceed with nominations.

Any questions?

Nominations.

All right, so I will say um are you a question?

Um are there any nominations for the position of chair?

I'd like to nominate Sarah Bailey for a position of chair.

Commissioner Bailey, do you accept the nomination?

Yes.

Commissioner Bailey has been nominated for the position of chair.

Are there any further nominations?

We're just on chair for now.

You got my email about being you want to be swift?

Okay, yeah.

Um, may I have a second for the nomination of Commissioner Bailey?

That was chair.

Let's circle.

Is there any discussion on the nomination?

Wow.

Seeing no further discussion, we'll proceed with the vote.

If you support Commissioner Bailey for chair, please say aye or raise your hand.

Aye.

Okay, soy has been elected chair.

Congratulations.

So we'll repeat that same process for vice chair now.

Are there any nominations for position of vice chair?

I nominate Nicholas.

Um, Commissioner Vizadis, do you accept the nomination?

I do.

Commissioner Bezanez has been nominated for the position of vice chair.

Are there any further nominations?

May I have a second for the nomination of Commissioner Beza.

I second.

Oh, wait, no, I didn't know.

You have to work here.

Is there any discussion on the nomination?

Okay.

Seeing no further discussion, we'll proceed with the vote.

If you support Commissioner Bezanus or Vice Chair, please say aye or raise your hand.

Aye.

Aye.

Commissioner Bezadus has been elected vice chair.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

No, now it's me.

Okay.

Okay, so we already skipped the public comments, right?

That's done.

All right.

So now we're at uh 3B.

We're going to look at the Dutton Avenue Road Reconstruction MDC complete streets checklist.

Associate Engineer Robbie Chi will present this.

I'll probably take one moment.

Pardon?

I'll probably take uh I'm gonna talk at the pedestal if you can pass that around, thank you.

Hello everyone, uh my name is Robin Chief.

Um today we'll be reviewing the complete streets checklist for the Dunn Avenue Road Reconstruction Project.

Uh so a little background before we dive into this checklist.

Uh the city submitted a grant application for the state transportation improvement program to uh solicit grant funding to repay uh the road essentially.

Um so in part of one of its requirements for the submission of this application is that uh it requires the review of this complete street checklist by uh the agency's local.

So that's why we're uh we're doing this checklist today.

Um so we'll just be going along um this checklist.

So the college limits for the uh is on Dunn Avenue about a hundredth foot east of East 14th Street because that was recently paid uh to Bancoff Avenue.

So the project will include a road reconstruction for the uh paving of the roadway in addition as part of uh our complete streets policy will be um repairing and replacing the sidewalks within these project limits, including um upgrading uh 88 curve raps and also the uncontrolled pedestrian crossings throughout the these limits.

Um I do apologize if I don't have anything.

I want to screen as a visual, but there are two progression crossings, mid-lock progression crossings along these product segments.

One is right on uh Washington Elementary, um at Mapleport, I believe.

Um that is an uncontrolled uh pet crossing and there is another um pedestrian crossing right before Bancoff Avenue, right at Harvard Drive, um essentially next to the safe point.

Uh so we're just gonna be going through the topics, the seven topics we have on the concrete streets policy considerations of the project improvements are consistent with the city's bicycle.

Sorry, can I ask a question?

Or we're going to return that.

Sure, sure.

Go ahead.

Sorry.

The project improvements are consistent with our recently updated by Padmaster Plan where the priority production area is within a eighth mile proper within school parts.

And in this case, we're referencing a Washington elementary school.

Based on the active transportation network map from Albeda CTC, Dunn Avenue is within the transportation network.

Safety and comfort is the third topic.

The city utilizes the local roadway safety plan in lieu of a high-entry network.

In this case, Dun Avenue is identified as a priority location from our local roadway safety plan that was adopted in 2022.

And in general, very ramps as well that are outdated.

Transit coordination is the public.

So none of these items apply.

And that concludes the review of this checklist.

In this case, we'll be recommending upgrading two rapid rectangular flashing beacons.

Good.

That's really good to hear that.

I mean, I walk there all the time.

Yeah, I'm glad about that.

Yeah, right?

You just yeah.

And then when you mention curb cuts, uh, my understanding is that the street the there are existing curb cuts.

Yes, there are existing curb cuts, but there are a few without the yellow truncated domes, and I'm pretty sure some of the um ones that were constructed maybe many years ago, have greater than a lot of cross slopes or easy recognition, assessment related uh nowadays.

So we'll be looking to operate all of those.

Okay.

anybody else besides me have questions or comments?

Okay.

So I'm glad to hear that we're gonna have that uh flashing yellow.

Um I I do uh I hesitate to say this because it's not it's more like for drivers' um comfort, but uh there is uh there is one of those at the high school, and um traffic has backs up for a long ways because the kids come out of school and they push the yellow button, push the button and the flashers go off, and each kid that comes out with another pair and another, you know, three or two, and they keep the button keeps getting pushed and the flashers keep going.

So how do you manage that?

Because what I really don't want to see in front of the elementary school there is impatient drivers behaving badly.

Um since that is my route from commuting, I believe during pickup and um drop-off or when school is off session, there are school guards, school crossing guards um present to uh assist essentially, and they have the stop paddle there to uh I don't know as a regulatory sign, so cars have to obey the laws essentially and stop or pedestrians crossing street.

Okay.

So should there come a time when the school district decides it's not gonna have crossing guards anymore?

Um, I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it because maybe they don't have crossing guards at the high school anymore, I guess.

Um I had a comment relative to that.

Yeah.

Uh for what's worth a lot of people uh push button across Detton.

A lot of people have been, I know a lot of people in the ability onto that because not just for during school hours, but during, because that crossing can be kind of sketchy sometimes outside of school hours without the cross cut.

Yeah.

Can you please put your mic on?

I was asking it.

I don't I don't know what's going on with it.

Push the button.

I'm I'm pushing the button.

Oh, you have to push it pushing, that makes more sense.

Yeah, make sure it's on.

There you go.

What about now?

No.

No, it's right.

Okay.

I was just saying, as someone who used to live that near there, uh we were I I'm excited to hear that they're going to have actually push button because I know there's a lot of issues with people trying to cross outside of school hours and cars just there you go.

Well, yes, yes, um, uh yes, and the lighting is very poor there, so um uh you cannot you really, I mean I've been in the passenger seat, you know, and my husband and I drive there all down there all the time.

That's kind of our path to downtown.

And um, you know, people wear dark clothing, and you can't, I mean it's really hard to see them.

I mean you can see them because they move, but that's pretty much it.

If they didn't move, you wouldn't see them.

Um, so uh that we definitely need to have that.

Now the other question, the question I have is it doesn't look like there's going to be any improved bike facilities for the road.

Am I right?

Yes, that's correct.

Um we checked in our uh recent recently updated bike bicycle and pedestrian master plan, and there are no recommended bike ways, um recommendations along Dutton.

Right, and that's because there's no room for a bikeway with a parking on both sides of the street.

Yeah, I think while we're in the planning process, um it was acknowledged that there was a high um usage of cars parked on the shoulder, and um I do believe that one street down, which is oaks, is a recommended or existing class three, which is a bicycle boulevard that kind of is.

Yes, that is in fact the case because that's the street I live on now.

Number two on my list.

Is about is that on Oaks to my there's nothing on Oaks beyond like a sign that you can hardly ever read it that says bike route.

And I would be grateful if the street had painted bikes on the surface of the road.

Yeah.

I mean, it doesn't have to be both ways, but it should be because people don't drive on each side, and then they just drive them on the middle.

But it shouldn't come as a surprise to people when they see somebody riding a bike, and people I think need to understand that it's not just the guys that you know live in the neighborhood or we're just peddling around for the heck of it, but that this is a commuter route.

So if somebody was actually coming from, say Sheffield Village and wanted to get downtown, they would be using Oaks as a you know, real cycling route, not just like you know, I'm not for a little pedal.

So that's my suggestion recommendation request.

Okay.

Yeah.

Anybody else have any?

Yeah.

Sorry.

Uh just to clarify.

Uh you said that Oaks is a preferred bicycle route.

Yeah.

Yes, it is designated as a class three, our bike but not supply.

Gotcha.

Okay, thank you.

It's not ideal because you have to stop at Bancroft and somehow get across the street where there's no written, I mean there's nothing painted on the street or anything that says this is a crosswalk.

Sure, sure.

Okay.

Um further comments.

Um, that can just uh review uh, your road reconstruction company's use checklist.

I think okay, so that means okay, so then we go to item.

We do have to vote on it.

I don't think we vote.

Do we vote?

Oh, do we have to vote?

No, okay.

Oh, it's just for comments for VPAC comments.

There's no voting involved.

Okay.

Okay.

So now we're by um item 3C, the Welling Boulevard Class 4 bikeways checklist, and this here's somebody new.

So, is this assistant engineer Imon Faze?

Oh, thank you.

I don't want my name, I know in my name yet.

Um I'm an engineer with the city of San Diego, and I'm a project manager on this project.

Long Lombard, um bikeways project, has four bikeways.

So one of our so city of San Lando has been awarded um a 1.852 million dollar uh grant from MCC and it has been assigned to this project.

One of the requirements for it to uh for us for the agreements is to have the checklist uh reviewed by the bike and pet committee.

Um so I'm gonna start by giving you guys some context on the project.

Um the limits of it is starting is ascendant of the welding starting from whites all the way to Washington.

Um and we break it down to Wakes to Segment and then sediment to Washington just because the cross sections kind of vary, and um, you have a media in one area, and then you don't have another area.

So this is what we uh this is what we're thinking about from weights to sediment.

Currently, what exists.

You have class two bike lanes, you have two through lanes on each side, and you have a median in the middle.

Um, what we're proposing is to do a road diet throughout, we're gonna be doing one lane through lane on each side.

Um, we're gonna be doing a class four bike lane for bike and patch safety, um, and we're gonna have a median.

Just a quick disclaimer, there shows to be landscape that we're very big early on in the project, so we're hopeful for landscape.

We're not guaranteeing it just because we're because of all the spacing and everything, we may not have enough space, but we're hopeful.

We'll try.

Um, and then the second part of it is from Segments, Washington.

Um, what we currently have is class two by lanes also continuing.

We also have two through lanes on both sides.

Um, and we have is there the median in the middle, we have a training lane, and we have parking on the side.

We don't want to have parking, so we're maintaining parking.

We're also continuing the road diet and dropping to one travel lane on each side, um, also continuing the class four and um adding a median to each side to for the class four.

So that's pretty much our current plan and our conceptual pictures, and so now we can go into the um the checklists.

So we can go to page two as we covered all the background.

Uh one thing to know we are doing a road diet, so we did complete a um traffic study to ensure that the LOS is staying uh at accessible levels or higher, um, and also since we're adding bicycle uh bike lane, class four bike lanes, the VMC will be improving since we're getting more space to safer spaces to use.

And so we're gonna start with the first section bicycle pedestrian and transit planning.

For this, we uh this project does follow uh locally adopted plans.

So we follow the bike and pen master plan.

Um, the LRSP identifies this corridor as a priority corridor for uh adding class four bikeways, and this also follows the vision zero um policy, and then going on to the next page for the next topic active transportation.

Um, this is part of this corridor is part of the active transportation network.

Um, topic three safety and comfort.

This is this corridor is not on the highway injury network.

However, the LRSB does identify as a priority corridor for having um intersections that were hot spots for um bike bicycle um accidents and injuries.

Uh and we try to address that by with the class four bike lanes to try and reduce the accidents and also clearing the class four bike lanes, a class for all ages and abilities, um spaces for all ages and abilities, and we'll also, I haven't covered this, but we are doing some pedestrian um enhancements and trying to work on ADX uh ADA programs and pedestrian crossings, and then we're topic four transit coordination.

We do have a few uh bus stops along the way to AC Transit bus stops.

So we are coordinating currently with AC Transit, um, it's an ongoing process.

We're sending them uh conceptuals, and we're gonna keep coordinating with them throughout the process of the whole project.

And this is not a mobility uh MTC mobility hub.

Uh topic five design.

The project uh our as we're designing the project, we are sticking with um professional design standards.

We're following the NATO and trying to make sure it's for all ages and abilities, and then topic six for equity.

Um, this quarter is along an equity priority community.

Uh and finally, epack review, we're doing it now.

And I believe that should be the conclusion.

We do this does um this does comply with the California Complete Streets Act, so um, we don't have to complete the light green segment, um, and therefore that is the conclusion of my presentation.

This is true.

It's done.

Yes.

So under um topic three safety and comfort, it says there was no uh user experience analysis conducted.

Does our um walking around that whole area when we did that with the the group from Berkeley count as a user experience?

Because this is one of these areas where you might look on a map and say there's no fatalities here, but it's just because it's so scary that nobody actually uses the sidewalks.

Um so this is nice that there's a road by it, and it's been good, but you know, we we were out walking around and I've driven by that many times, and it's like, well, this seems very scary, but when you get out there or walk around, it's really scary.

There's a reason there's no way out there, so it might be good if that counts as a user experience that that gets reflected in the notes.

Um I don't believe we walked up when we did the um UC Berkeley Save tracking walk assessment.

We didn't walk through, we we stopped at the intersection of the welling at Washington, but we didn't walk through the entire stretch of blue walling.

That's true.

I think I think we can't say that the city conducted a level of tracker stress analysis, all right.

Um, you know, that assessment we get during that time.

Anybody else have any comments or questions?

Looks great.

Thank you.

We're excited.

Yeah.

Same for me.

Is it not on again?

Same for me.

Go ahead.

Does the has this been disclosed publicly yet that this is gonna happen?

This is posted on the San Leandro website, and we try to post updates.

I'll actually we'll actually be posting an update tomorrow to say that this happened.

Okay, and then any screams of protest from the the motorists yet.

Not that I'm aware of, okay.

Um these drawings have not, this is the first time we've shared these.

The project in general, sorry.

The project in general has been shared, but not the specific um mock-ups.

Okay, this looks nice.

Yeah, I also do want to add that we're probably going through our facilities and transportation permission as there are trade-offs to um to add in a separated bike lane, and that's where we're gonna send two lanes to one road.

Uh, but that would be discussed more down the line.

Is there been parking on this road?

No, it's just a small segment.

Okay, sentiment to Washington.

Yeah, so there's a small small segment from San Jim and Washington.

Uh there's permanent parking on the north side of the street, is that correct?

On all sides.

And we're keeping that so no one gets upset.

Okay.

Um is this in two parts?

I thought this was in two parts.

That there were two parts of Louelling that we were looking at, Mike?

Yes, we just kind of break it up into uh ways to sentiment and then sediments, Washington, just because the cross section looks different, and we have parking sentiments, Washington.

Um we have a middle trip lane, segments, Washington.

Um, while on the other end, um we don't have the parking anymore.

We like that there's no existing parking, and there's a median instead of the center of term lane.

So just to kind of um show all the possibilities of the camera.

Okay, so what about driveways?

Um most of the properties, this is the their back side, so any houses, their front side is on the other one.

This is kind of their where their backyards are.

Um so we're not really having an issue with many driveways, the only ones maybe are uh more at the top end uh near Washington, where there are some businesses and I believe that trailer park.

Um, so that is easy to work around and leave gaps in the class for and include in our design.

Okay.

Do we have any idea when this will happen?

We are currently in design.

Uh we have um at consultant on call that we're working with.

Our goal is to complete design by end of 2026, um, and then go into construction.

Current deadline end goal is June 2030.

The project will be completely done.

June 2030.

Yes.

Yeah.

Oh my goodness.

Wow, that's a long time for that's when Prop 50 will expire.

Yeah, that's a long time.

That'll start somewhere.

Hurry up and wait a situation for us, I guess, huh?

It's T right now.

Okay.

Um does anybody else have any questions or comments?

Well, despite having to hurry up and wait, I'm sure we're all very excited about this happening.

And I think the people who live in the manor who live along there will be very excited that they can have cars driving at a reasonable rate because my understanding, I once was on a bus that was traveling down the welling, and it was like we were on 880, and it was the bus was going so fast.

Um because it's a straightaway, right?

They go really fast.

And then that any lights that's all people now.

Yeah.

Thank you very much.

Before we close the item, I'm just gonna show you the and is this public information under public and see on the website.

She was mentioning that you can see the same projects on the website.

Can you fill it in like if you do it?

Yeah, I think that's right.

Yeah, start at standlinger.org and then this is really this is really cool, you guys.

I'll have this one for the time, please.

Oh, it's not right.

Yeah.

City projects, whatever they're right.

I don't know why it's an usher, sorry.

God, you're really slow, uh whoops, I think here's really slow.

We need to do that too.

So there's a couple projects in this.

Oh, the pedestrian bridge.

I'm very excited.

Oh, there's yeah.

Yeah.

I will write for our set.

No, I want to think I checked out and I went.

We walk by it every day.

Oh, there we go.

Um they're still working on it.

I mean, they have to make it stable.

So this is where you'll find like all the information for that project.

I see.

Yeah.

So if anybody and any time somebody asks you about what's going on with such and such, I mean if you if you don't, it's not going to be enough for you to direct them here because they probably won't go, but you can go and um and get the information that they'll for them.

My experience people don't, a lot of people are like, I don't really know how to do that, I'm not comfortable doing that.

I don't know what you really what you're talking about.

Get really nervous.

Maybe it's you work in school, do you work in school?

Yeah, so you know how the people can be so.

So anyway, and also I have to I have to I'll just make this comment before we go into our very robust discussion when I hope about what we've seen in the last five months that we want corrected or find out how we can get it corrected.

Um Bancroft was getting redone, and it took a very long time, not because our city staff, but because of electrical and um PGE and the water people, is that right?

We had to lower mud.

So it took forever, and you know, the city staff and you all and the city manager's office, and even the mayor, pushed out so much information about what was happening, when it was happening, what would happen next.

It was on a city's home page, it was on social media, it was it was everywhere.

The mayor wrote two letters to the saying, and I want to commend you guys for doing all of this.

Part of why I'm saying this still, I was reading on next door in various places that oh my god, the cities, you know, this is the worst communicated, and everybody was like, You got to get this done, you gotta get this done.

Then, and I can say this because these are my people.

Then I read, oh my god, it's like they decided to do it all at once.

It took me an hour to get home, blah blah blah blah blah.

Then you were doing it too fast.

I don't know.

So I guess these are my people, so I put, you know, I'm on the board of the neighborhood association, so I put the information on the Facebook, like in our Facebook but you all are doing an enormous amount of work for this website and all of these, you know, where you can find out about projects and stuff, and I'm still saying that when it comes down to it and you do it again.

You know, you might as well staple things to telephone polls.

I mean, you might even find people get informed faster, then um seriously, than doing all the work that you're doing.

It's fabulous, but it's works for us, and it works for the council who are the ones that are gonna get the questions, and it's up to the rest of us, us who are more comfortable with the sort of thing to get people to understand what's going on.

Good luck with that, yeah.

Well, just just saying, just saying, okay, um so thank thank you, Aracelli for um showing us that.

I really appreciate it.

Okay, so now we are at committee member comments, and I sent uh asked our celly to send out an email asking for you guys to bring um with you things that you've noticed over the last five months that you want to have corrected, or want to know how to correct them yourself or suggest that they be corrected.

It could be anything from crosswalks to signs to you know where why why people park and by planes and what can you do about it?

So who would like to start?

Malika.

It's another ingredient.

All right, cool.

I got it this time.

Um, it's not actually my district, but uh I was, you know, I used to live in Michigan.

Uh but uh over by Roosevelt on Dedden, we have the crosswalk that has it has flashing lights, it only has flashing lights during school hours.

Yes, and uh it doesn't have a button to request the flashing lights, um and I know that's the main crossing point for people to cross that in, um, because the next crossing is all the way at Bancroft, um, and so people whose streets come out were trying to cross over, uh, use that, and what ends up happening is you end up because the you can't request the life unless because they just only run during school hours, uh during school in and out time, uh, people end up just like basically running across the street.

Um, and looking so I I would like to know if it's possible, since it already has a flashing light set up, it would be possible to get a button there so that people could actually request the lights, especially at night.

I I will speak in front.

I like to walk around that area if I'm going to like Colfi Creamery or something.

Big fan.

Um, and I've always gotten hit by a car several times trying to cross there in the evenings, and especially when I'm walking with my daughter, uh, she's not fastest.

So the transportation section has a running list of priority locations for RFTs.

Um, and Chutland is high on that list.

Um, unfortunately, it is not as simple as just installing a pole with a button.

The ramps there are substandard.

Um, there is there are drainage facilities uh right at that corner that would need to be um modified in order for a standard ramp to go in and then the RRFB.

So um we do have state funding for RRFBs.

Unfortunately, it doesn't include infrastructure, which at that location there is a lot of infrastructure needs beyond just the RRFB.

So it is definitely on our priority list.

We had a lot of questions about that location.

Um as funding um becomes available for that location.

Um it's top of the list.

Thank you.

And I have a couple things.

Um first is the parking of bike lanes because I decided that now that my wife beat me up a hill on a bike after she trained for marathon that I was not in good enough shape.

So I've been out on my bike more, and um, I just can't believe people that park on bike lanes, especially the ones that are separated.

Um, you know, I can call the non-emergency line or the click it fix it or whatever, but would it be possible to have a city ordinance where I could take a picture and then have them shoot a citation?

I don't know how the legalities and the magic words on paperwork, but you know some things police officers have to see in person versus having video evidence, even though video evidence works fine everywhere else.

Unfortunately, I can't answer that question.

Um, that question will probably have to be directed to the police review board.

Okay, someone like that.

Yeah, but that's a good idea.

Let's do it.

Oh, is he?

Let's do it.

Um second one is more is another kind of legal question.

And but I know nobody nobody here is gonna really know the answer to this.

Um, but I'm sure there is some agreement with the railroads on rights of way and where tracks are installed.

And somebody, I think it was an Alameda, managed to go back to some agreement that was signed in like 1910 or something and figured out that the railroads had not kept up their end of the bargain and was able to then co-opt that land for bike lane use.

So, has anyone been interested in that from our end of it and what can we do to take some of these unused spurs that are no longer being used to deliver high mass uh materials to businesses and then co-opt them for you know separate use by bike and pedestrians?

I just gave Robin some homework, I guess.

Robin is working on one of them and unfair way, but um, sort of.

Um but actually, um, here in Taliban, there have been a few that have been removed in recent years.

Um, one is near Abrams Court on Merced Street.

Um that one was removed a number of years ago, I believe.

Um, there was also one at Halcyon that was removed two years ago, maybe when they did that full shutdown of Halcyon, that one was removed.

So slowly but surely they do get it removed.

Um, anything with the railroad takes a very very long time.

Um for use for bike and pet, you know, the county tried that right um under the bar tracks for a very long time and has now um you know gone onto like roadways, yeah.

Easy greenway is going to be on San Leandro Boulevard and East 14th Street.

So uh they're just relentless in keeping you know their property for their use, even though it would take a huge effort to get a train on that track again.

It was, yes.

Um, yeah.

Sorry, which is better news.

We tried to.

Oh, sorry.

How does the city collect um submitted requests that bumps on the streets?

Sure.

So that is through the neighborhood traffic calming program that through the transportation transportation section.

Um, if you would like to make a request, you can email traffic at salandro.org.

Um, and we will um see if it meets the criteria necessary for bumps.

Um there are many streets in San Leandro that do not qualify based on their classification.

You can't put bumps on like Bancroft, you can't put bumps on you know major roadways like that.

Um, residential okay.

Yeah, have have reach out to that email address, traffic at salandro.org.

Welcome.

Um, and um, you know, we we go through a process to determine if um it meets the criteria.

Okay, oh again, I do have one more.

I've just removed.

Um so we're talking about Oaks being the throughway for bikes as opposed to Dutton and a couple more neighboring towns I'll meet in Berkeley, have a lot of their surface streets in the neighborhood shut off to through traffic.

Um have we ever considered doing that to like shut off like half the streets to through traffic in a strategic way so that you have a bike pedestrian network that you can transit the city?

Um well, having gone through the bike and master plan process.

Um we don't have anything like I think you're aware we don't have anything like that yet.

Um there were recommendations for it, um, but at this point we're focusing on the projects that we have on main thoroughfares, um, you know, where we have secured funding uh for a project like that.

I think they call them slow streets.

Slow streets, okay.

Um, yeah.

They they have them.

Like I saw one in Berkeley recently where yeah, like half the just like you have bikes and pedestrians are allowed on this line only.

We're not no cars are on the wild.

Yes, yeah.

That's really cool.

I saw it in San Francisco too.

Okay.

I have them in Redwood City for the streets that are designated as a yeah, but I forgot what's the class again for the class at Oaks three, yeah.

Did you have anything else?

Uh yes, actually.

Um the intersection of Williams and Alvarado.

Oh, yes.

Um, I bicycle there every day, and the bike lane just kind of stops, and I think it's because of the left turn lane that's there.

Uh you have to enter traffic, and then you like I'm trying to get to BART.

Uh so you have to make the left turn there, and so you have to ride with traffic in the left turn lane to get to make the left turn, and it's it just feels rather hazardous.

Yeah, so that's part of the crosstown corridor project.

Um, Robin is diligently working on funding for that.

We have about six million dollars through a federal earmark and um a county uh ACTC grant.

So uh design should be starting once our funding agreements have um been fully executed.

Um so that's good news.

Will James is part of that.

San Angel Guard is part of East Bay Greenway, so um it's coming.

Okay, okay.

That's good, that's good.

That's good.

I also want on Bancroft coming.

That's part of the same project.

Okay, and we've got you're saying that we have funding for it now.

Uh for the design.

Yeah, that's okay.

It's gonna have to be extremely piecemeal.

Yeah, did you have anything else you wanted?

Uh I don't know if this falls under this group.

I was curious uh for daylighting.

Um I've noticed that uh especially on places like um MacArthur and stuff like that, a lot of people are parking all the way through the daylighting section, um, which I know I know they're probably not all painted yet, obviously.

Um I don't know what the correct remedy is for that besides so they will never all be all be painted.

I figured.

Um and in fact we try and avoid red curves here in San Landro.

They turn pink over time, and uh some maintenance night.

Honestly, we have downtown.

Um but it is state law, yeah.

Um again, it comes down to an enforcement issue, and unfortunately, um our St.

Angel Police Department is at the moment extremely um depleted, and enforcement um daylighting isn't the highest priority.

Um we do try and um I do meet with them monthly, and um you know we talk about these issues, it's just um you know, with their staffing limitations right now, um they do what they can.

It might be worth that if you are going to the police board about being able to report for pictures, yeah, might be worth bringing up the daylighting as well.

Um, I can't can't wait to get home and tell my husband the chair of the police review board what we've been talking about.

Um, uh I have a question that's uh related to that.

Um it's not just daylighting this the problem, it's people yeah parking.

And I think that we can ask the police department to um pay attention to areas that are shopping areas.

They're downtown, but that's because that's our main shopping area, but Bancroft, you know, near Zocolo, and that's you know Paradiso's crazy making.

Um, so I think that we can ask them to address some shopping areas where this is also happening, not just daylighting but the poor parking, um I had a couple of things now.

Uh how do we ask for school zone signs?

Um are they missing?

I think that there isn't one on Shetland.

Between Glen and which well, Chetland only runs from Glen to Dutton, where Malika was talking earlier about.

I almost got nailed on Friday by speeding car driver.

Probably got impatient and traffic on Bancroft.

It didn't want to stick around for the light.

Um but it it happened to be when school was just getting out, so there were a lot of children walking down Chatland, and this car came barreling down from Glenn bad out of hell, and um, I don't think there's a school zone sign there, so there's school zone signs on the main roads.

Are they required to be on the side roads as well?

It has to be in a designated school zone.

Um feel free to send me the location and we'll look and see.

But I will say that the county recently went out and did an assessment at all San Diego schools.

Oh, the city is in the process of implementing those um recommendations, those that we can that are you know able to be done through our maintenance section without considerable improvement to infrastructure.

As I mentioned, ramps tend to be um well costly and complicated and at a lot of locations.

So those are kind of being added to another project at this time, but if it's striping signage, stuff like that that can be easily checked off their recommendations.

We are doing that.

So I'm happy to look at that location.

Well, here's the question.

Then I'll look at it again.

It's on my dog walk route.

So do you want us?

Would it be helpful if we walked around our school district our schools?

You can look at Bancroft, that would be helpful.

I'll look again around Roosevelt.

I mean, yeah, around Roosevelt, and I can go down to Washington to see where the signs are and where they where we think they should be added.

I think we know where they are.

Um certainly Bancroft just got like a good look because we did that all kind of together with our project.

Okay, um, and like I said, this assessment from the county is pretty recent.

Okay, um, but if you feel that any are missing, then please let us know.

Okay, so that's a yes, okay.

The other thing I have um I've uh have heard uh that parents of students at uh Washington elementary are walking their children to school from um the other from that way from the other side from the west west of Bancroft, um, and near well they're trying to cross at Oaks and East 14th, and finding that cars are not slowing down.

As it happens, I don't I mean I learned a long time ago not to cross in that crosswalk because people that they don't slow down.

Do you know what?

Okay, I was having trouble orienting myself.

Oaks, yeah, it was if I'm leaving if I'm coming from the city hall, I cross at City Hall at that.

Is there something else?

So um, it's Caltrans, obviously, but um we did get um information recently that Caltrans will be installing a RRLB here at Huller, which is right outside the door here, roller, uh-huh.

Um, and the city has a grant um from HCP where we will be installing a hawk at Lorraine, which is um like the city hall um driveway, so that just leaves Oaks.

Yeah, and then if they can't cross there, they should actually go to Dutton.

That's that's that's kind of the reason why there aren't crossings at every intersection.

It's not really the intent that a person should cross at every intersection, right?

Right.

The preference is that you would go to a signalized now.

I understand the nearest signalized intersection at this time is Chumalia, which is pretty far.

Um, but like I said, the or Dutton, no, what is this one?

Dutton is the closest part, yeah.

Um, but um, yeah, we will be getting two new pedestrian uh but not but not at Oaks.

Not at Oaks.

Okay, so here's my question.

Oh wait, I have that is a hawk.

Is that that?

It's like what we have at Davis and Carpenter.

If you're familiar, it's pedestrian actuated, it looks like a face of a hawk.

There's red on top.

I don't know that he is yellow.

Okay.

So that is pedestrian actuated.

Um and so that's going at um uh Lorraine, excuse me, and R R and B is going at uh toller.

Um and you know uh East 14th is obviously pretty congested, so having one at Oaks may have not been a good option because there's not enough storage for vehicles, right?

And by storage and by storage you mean healing, like length for correct English words.

Um okay, so here's my let me is another follow-up question.

So is there, I mean there is a crosswalk there, painted so there is something that says to people you can't cross here.

Should we remove those do you paint over them?

Something those I mean it is a crossing.

Um I just think if you want to be the safest, it'd be best to go to signalized.

I mean, that's how they all are right now on East 14th at toller, right?

Which is right across the street, yeah, from a senior facility, city hall crossing, yeah.

Um it is dangerous, I'll tell you that it is dangerous.

But a person in our department who swears she's gonna die crossing East 14th, yeah.

Um so it is dangerous.

Yeah, I don't I don't cross improvements.

I walk when I walk home from from here, I walk down Oaks and I stopped.

I I stopped crossing at that at Oaks and East 14th a long time ago.

It's just not safe.

Yeah, so I think we should eliminate the, you know, the crosswalk that's painted there, and I think we should.

I don't know what process we use to tell people this is not a safe place to cross the street.

So typically if it's not a safe place, like think about like Marina Boulevard, there are those um barricades on the corner that say not to cross.

Right.

And we have one of those at MacArthur and EsteDio near um Galvin's.

Not that I pay any attention to them.

I don't know that that is directing people not to cross.

I believe that is there, because there is a I built that ramp, and there's a curtain that someone could trip over, and that's what that is for.

Oh, you can't cross as to be a two.

I thought I guess I don't think there is a crosswalk that way, it's just right they it there's the kind of discouragement.

I almost thought they were trying to discourage people from crossing uh MacArthur on the north side of the it's that ramp, it's a it's an unusual one.

Uh, the ramp up that building ramp is a problem.

But Marina Boulevard is a better example of you know, you're they really don't want you to cross, there's no crosswalks, okay.

Can I I would like that to be considered for that particular crosswalk at Oaks?

Um, so the best way, and I mean, even if I were to put it in to Caltrans, they would see my comment the same way they would see your comment.

So, best way if it's something on East 14th is to put it in through there, um, you know, maintenance uh or okay.

Can you tell me how I how I do that?

Um I can want to email me, or I'll send you an email and asking when you get back to me when it's convenient.

Yeah, I mean we put stuff in when fines get knocked down, but they attend to us the same as they would attend to anyone else.

Okay.

Which is like in six years.

Okay.

Any anything else?

We're gonna we're really fast tonight.

Is there anything else that we need to talk about?

Okay, I have one more question.

When is our next BPAC meeting going to happen?

Oh, did what happens when if you don't have an any agenda I think we just vote, leave?

Sure.

I could yeah, sure.

We might have to.

I mean, we have please ask that you uh come on time so we can have our quorum.

Okay, yeah, are you you can leave yeah?

So I have a little commitment.

Yeah, we're gonna have we're about to adjourn.

Okay, thanks.

Um do we know when the next VPAC meeting is going to be?

Do we have any idea?

Um we have it now that we're formalized, we said quarterly, um, but that's as needed.

So if there are some projects that need BPAC's attention, um we might have one by the end of the year.

However, I think that's pretty unlikely.

Um, and we would shoot for the meeting where we have to approve TEA funding, which is usually in the first quarter, March or April.

Um, okay.

Yes.

Um what do they what did the um rules say the administrative blah blah blah say about um the chair or vice chair calling the meeting themselves?

Okay, don't quote me on this, but I believe in the um I think the city council had bug there's a section where um either the chair or the vice chair can call for a special meeting to discuss and topics that and I believe that it has to go under vote to um approve, but to undertake the special meeting from the EPAC, uh but we can definitely look back into that for you.

Okay, because this is our second only our second meeting of this year, and I know that previous years we've had more meetings, um we last year we did have more quarterly meetings, and that wasn't due to the uh bicycle production master plan update, which you know, we wanted to keep everyone up to date on the uh double update of that fly.

Okay, so yeah, Robin.

If you could look into that for me, and then um we can let everybody know what that is, and then we can understand what the procedure should be.

For there's you know, there may be things that we know about or concerned about or major issues or yeah, so is that is that kind of what you would want to see as maybe an agenda item is something where um commissioners are given an opportunity outside of this committee member comment section to um voice that because typically the way the BPAC I think operates is that you know we we come to you when we need these checklists approved, or um, you know, input on like bike event master plan, um, but if it's more um for lack of a better word, you know, comp complaint based, you know, like or you know, feedback that you want to give us or information you want to give us, then um, I guess I'm just wondering what would prompt you as the chair to call a special meeting or to desire a special meeting.

Well, I'm not really sure yet.

I guess I wanted to make sure it wasn't sure.

Um the city council, you know, has something at the end of their meetings, right?

Where they you can say, I want this agenda on a future meeting, correct?

So maybe that would be something that we in the future put on our own agendas, next meeting being in March, but it should be something, I think, that we should can have on our agenda.

Like I really want to talk about this particular intersection, or uh it's really important.

We're having, you know, we just had somebody hit by a car in such and such a spot.

What are you gonna do about it?

How fast can you remember you know remedy this situation?

I it, you know, to some degree this is a commission that has demands no requests or you know, of staff and return that um not necessarily staff shouldn't have all the control in this dialogue that we have.

Yeah, so totally understandable.

Um, you know, you come to facilities a lot, so you know a lot of this stuff comes here first and then goes to facilities afterwards, and you know, typically we get a little bit more public um, you know, attending that.

So yeah, I just it's totally fine if you want to call a special meeting and just you know, if there's something we can add on to BPAC, or you know, have fewer items on B pack and more time for you all to you know come those kind of comments, then um, you know, you kind of look at that as well.

Yeah, yeah.

Maybe there's opportunities, maybe we could think about doing a quarterly thing and put it upon make it a responsibility of the members to come with an agenda, right?

To put together an agenda, maybe that's something we um we should should be talking about because there's you know I've made made a point of making this a you know, big portion of the meeting when it is probably a big portion of the meeting, right?

Yeah, and you know, we can make that an agenda item um that way, you know, it's kind of planned for time-wise, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I also think that um, you know, because some of us talk about this, and I've been known to mail city council with physics related things along the way, um, and so I think we we could help you with the public because they don't apparently don't pay attention and complain about everything.

Um you get to the lelling thing, people are gonna be screaming that it's gonna affect your adversely affect your business and stuff, but we at least I know that this has been studied all over the world, it makes it better.

Um, so we'd like to be able to help you as well because a safer city for everybody that's more inclusive is gonna help just have a more welcoming field instead of trying to dodge cars through five of these trackers.

I mean, if you want to I'm I'm happy to participate if we if that's something we want to do quarterly.

Yeah, yeah, but I mean if there's things to talk about, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't maybe you should maybe you and I could talk about this separately.

Yeah, um, I'll buy you lunch.

So we'll find out from Robin what uh what's required for a special meeting.

Um I mean I know we have a lot of bike projects and pet projects, how we get on bike, so you know, maybe we present on the each step or something and then have an agenda item for yeah, um meet pack feedback or whatever, yeah, or progress on yeah, when it's coming, you know, be finished in 2030, I guess.

Okay, yeah.

Uh just one more question.

Uh you mentioned a bicycle pedestrian master plan.

Could I could I see?

It's on the website, it's on the website.

It's on the website.

Right there.

Yeah, that's highlighted.

Perfect.

It's actually really interesting.

Yeah, I'm very interested.

We just adopted it uh in December of 2024.

Right.

Returning BPAC members were uh heavily involved.

Right.

So I see two pages dedicated to um the welling and kind of highlighting all the issues and everything, all the accidents they found along it, and kind of everything that falls into the project, it's all the recommendations.

Also, map with all the proposed different classifications, yeah.

Great, great.

It's really long.

So you just have to remember those groups.

But a lot of my husband for like a week meeting exit.

Right, it was like 90 pages or something.

That was great.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, 90, 90 pages, 90 pages.

Yeah.

I can point that link over to you as well.

Um, I can probably find it.

For what it's worked with someone who did read it before I applied for the committee, I you guys did a very good job on it.

I I thought it was really well done.

Yeah.

Major goodness.

There's a lot of feedback from the hack.

We actually met four, we actually met four times last year.

Yeah.

Okay, anything else?

We're all done, everybody?

Okay, I adjourned this meeting at 7:20.