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Santa Rosa Public Safety Subcommittee Regular Meeting – July 22, 2025

City CouncilTuesday, July 22, 2025
BodySanta Rosa, California
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, July 22, 2025
StatusFILED
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1:50

Good morning.

1:50

I'd like to ask the interpreter currently on the Spanish channel to commence interpretation of the meeting.

1:56

For those just joining the meeting, live interpretation in Spanish is available, and members of the public or staff wishing to listen in Spanish can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon in the Zoom toolbar.

2:08

It looks like a globe.

5:01

Chief Westrope.

5:03

Good morning, Cheryl Krepke, Councilmember McDonald.

5:06

Scott Westrope, Fire Chief of the City of Santa Rosa Fire Department.

5:11

Today I want to go through briefly where we're at with Measure H implementation and kind of give the subcommittee an update on where we're at.

5:23

So as you recall, Measure H was passed by voters on March 5th of 2024.

5:28

The City of Santa Rosa receives 14.4% of the direct funding from Measure H proceeds, which is a county countywide half cent sales tax measure.

5:39

And then we have our REDCom fees covered, which is equates to about 1.5 million dollars as far as countywide technology and training fees we receive indirectly as well.

5:51

We have received two payments on two tax rolls to date, totaling just about 4.2 million dollars in the bank currently.

5:59

And we have a approved financial plan, and I just want to review where we're at with the financial plan and what it's going to provide for the Santa Rosa Fire Department.

6:08

It's one additional engine company.

6:11

This is a three-person staff 24-7 engine company that will be located in the southeast uh side of Santa Rosa.

6:18

And we are working towards building a new fire station for that uh for that engine company, which will be station nine.

6:24

Um as you recall, you approved counts full council approved the sale of the Franz Kafka property last year, which was actually has been in existence in the ownership of the City of Santa Rosa since 1998.

6:39

Um but our current uh deployment analysis and strategic plan shows that's not the current the currently um appropriate location for station nine.

6:49

So we're looking in the area of Santa Rosa Avenue and Elsa Drive is essentially where we're looking for engine nine.

6:56

Measure H also provides for two additional vegetation management inspectors, um, one additional on duty battalion chief.

7:03

We currently have one battalion chief that oversees uh 14 companies.

7:06

Um so their span of control is is way too high.

7:09

So this brings in a second battalion chief, and we'll be sitting splitting the city into a north-south configuration with two battalion chiefs.

7:17

And then we're gonna get to a two-person staffed, um, eventually we'll expand that.

7:21

But initially a two-person staffed 24-7 heavy rescue, um, which accounts for six FTEs.

7:28

This will be a countywide uh operational area resource for uh shoring trench collapse, anything like that.

7:35

So it'll be the first of its kind um in our county.

7:39

And it also provides for administrative support of tax implementation and maintenance.

7:47

So I just wanted to share with you what the essentially the leader's intent or the strategy was that I gave um the team to build this implementation plan with so you understand where they were coming from.

7:59

Um it's to remain within the established financial plan and with long-term financial uh fiduciary responsibility and sustainability.

8:06

Number one.

8:07

Number two is balance the need for additional resources with what is reasonable and rational for the organization's capabilities.

8:14

And what this means is we're in dire need of assistance on the streets.

8:18

Um, our response times are long, our call volumes way up from the last time we added resources.

8:23

So we all know, you know, you all and we all know that we need more resources on the street, but we want to do it right, we want to do it responsibly.

8:31

And lastly, is to protect the current workforce and provide stay uh stability with forecast to general fund reductions in the next fiscal year.

8:41

So, onto sort of the the meat of the conversation here is the implementation timeline that we have established, and there's a lot to this that I won't go into great detail on, but um with the fire inspectors, we can immediately um implement the fire inspectors, and the way that's accomplished is that we have two limited term fire inspectors currently on staff that they're that are hired under vegetation management with it, which is a grant funded um their grant funded positions.

9:11

So we've transferred them over to FTEs um under general under measure H, and then we'll backfill the LT position.

9:18

So we're able to do that immediately and provide stability for those two employees to make sure that they have an FT versus an LTE position.

9:26

Um, and then the exciting news is that engine nine and battalion two are both gonna go into service um at the same time on October 6, 2025.

9:36

So that gives us about three months at this point uh to get those resources uh ready to go.

9:42

We're gonna put them in service on October 6th, but we'll announce it.

9:46

We're gonna do a you know a more um robust ribbon cutting type ceremony on the anniversary of the tubs fire.

9:52

We feel that it's an appropriate time to talk about the additional resources the community is providing via sales tax funding on the anniversary of the tubs fire on the on the 8th.

10:02

And then rescue one will be in uh go in service.

10:05

Right now it's scheduled to go in service July 1st of 2026.

10:09

There's a lot to putting a new company on a new resource that we've never had before into service.

10:15

So it constitutes rewriting all of our policies, all of our procedures, all of our company standards.

10:21

So there's a lot of work that goes into that, and I'll talk a little bit about how we're planning to do that.

10:26

But that's the initial timeline for all of these resources.

10:29

They're all subject to change.

10:31

Man, I'm I've been very clear to our staff and to the city manager that none of this is set in stone, so they could be moved up if things work out really well and and we're able to get the resources and the staffing in place, or they might have to be delayed if if we run into problems there.

10:47

And sort of in summary, and this is to just kind of encapsulate some questions that are commonly asked with this, is the way that we're going to implement the rescue is we've already started working on a uh rescue working group, and so that's a uh a small team within the organization led by Chief Jenkins that's going to start working on all those administrative policies that need to be reviewed and revised, coming up with exactly how this uh new resource is going to be deployed in the city.

11:15

Um, and then we're working currently with real estate on a location for both temporary and permanent station nine.

11:23

One of the things we're exploring is uh can we find storefront space, something that's inexpensive where we can get engine nine in service and at least during daytime hours down the avenue to provide service to the southeast and the lower part of the avenue.

11:38

So if we can make that work financially and we can make it work um logistically, uh we're working with real estate on that, and also identifying uh the property for station nine.

11:50

The fire inspectors were getting them, they're already in service.

11:54

Um now it's just the backfill portion.

11:56

Engine nine and battalion two, October 6th, rescue one July 1st.

12:01

Um so initially, what we're gonna do with this October 6th start day with engine nine is they're gonna be sleeping at least at station one.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety█████████████████████████████████████████████48%
Homelessness██████████████15%
Community Engagement██████████████15%
Personnel Matters█████████10%
Engineering And Infrastructure██████6%
Fiscal Sustainability███3%
Economic Development███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Santa Rosa Public Safety Subcommittee Regular Meeting – July 22, 2025

The Public Safety Subcommittee of the Santa Rosa City Council met on July 22, 2025, at 9:02 AM. Chair Jeff Okrepkie and Councilmember Dianna MacDonald were present; Victoria Fleming was absent. The meeting covered updates on Measure H implementation, the Downtown Enforcement Team, and departmental reports from Police and Fire. One public comment was received. The meeting adjourned at approximately 9:52 AM (transcript) or 9:57 AM (minutes).

Approval of Minutes

  • The minutes from the January 28, 2025 regular meeting were adopted as submitted.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • AJ Trombetta, representing the Railroad Square Board of Directors, expressed strong appreciation for the Santa Rosa Police Department and the Downtown Enforcement Team. He noted increased SMART ridership and underscored the importance of maintaining a safe shopping area by addressing disruptive homelessness and criminal behavior.

Discussion Item: Measure H Implementation Plan Update

  • Fire Chief Scott Westrope presented the update. Measure H, a countywide half-cent sales tax passed in March 2024, provides Santa Rosa with 14.4% of direct funding plus an estimated $1.5 million in REDCom fees. To date, the city has received approximately $4.2 million.
  • The approved financial plan funds: one additional three-person engine company (Engine 9) serving the southeast; two vegetation management inspectors; a second on-duty battalion chief (splitting the city north-south); and a two-person 24/7 heavy rescue (Rescue 1) as a countywide operational area resource. Administrative support is also included.
  • Implementation timeline: Engine 9 and Battalion 2 go into service on October 6, 2025, with a formal ribbon‑cutting on the anniversary of the Tubbs Fire (October 8). Rescue 1 will go into service on July 1, 2026. Engine 9 will initially be housed at Station 1; a temporary storefront location is being sought. A rescue working group is developing policies and procedures.
  • Chief Westrope emphasized the financial plan is designed to be solvent for 10 years without impacting the general fund. Future expansions (e.g., two additional engine companies) depend on actual revenue trends. The plan will be adjusted as necessary.
  • Chair Okrepkie requested regular updates on Measure H implementation.

Discussion Item: Downtown Enforcement Team Update

  • Sergeant Tim Barrett presented. Since 2024, the Downtown Enforcement Team (DET) has responded to 2,400 calls and made 650 arrests. Collaborative efforts with city departments and external agencies (e.g., Public Works, Code Enforcement, Downtown Action Organization) have eliminated all large homeless encampments. Preliminary 2025 data show a 23% countywide decrease in homelessness; Santa Rosa is expected to see similar numbers.
  • The team moved into a free substation at Santa Rosa Plaza in April 2025. Calls for service at the plaza dropped from 203 (May–July 2024) to 128 (same period in 2025).
  • Due to budget cuts, the DET will be reduced from eight to six officers starting August 10, 2025. Chief Cregan noted the department lost nine sworn positions overall, spread across teams to avoid eliminating any single unit. The reduction will likely affect coverage hours and may increase homelessness issues.
  • Discussion: Councilmember MacDonald expressed concern about the impact on businesses and asked about potential private partnerships (e.g., funding from Santa Rosa Plaza for a community service officer). Chair Okrepkie queried RV enforcement; Sergeant Barrett described current 72‑hour ordinance and state vehicle codes, and noted that a few people exploit loopholes by moving every 72 hours. The city is examining possible ordinance revisions. Chair Okrepkie also asked about tools to address the criminal element among the homeless; Chief Cregan highlighted recent ability to book misdemeanor offenders and called for continued collaboration with the county jail and District Attorney’s office.
  • Councilmember MacDonald and Chair Okrepkie both supported exploring stronger ordinances for waterways and service‑resistant populations, and sought updates on RV parking regulations.

Department Reports

  • Police Department Update (Chief John Cregan): Chief Cregan highlighted two communication initiatives. The Chief’s Community Advisory Team (CCAT), comprising over 20 community members, meets monthly to review policies and provide feedback. The team has direct access to the chief and the independent police auditor. A new CCAT cohort started in June 2025. The department also publishes beat‑specific newsletters every other month, providing crime stats and officer contact information. Residents can find their beat and officers via the Santa Rosa Police Department website. Chief Cregan encouraged sign‑ups for Civic Ready to receive notifications.
  • Fire Department Update (Chief Scott Westrope): Chief Westrope provided a verbal update. Current staffing is 168 FTEs, pending changes from the general fund and Measure H. On August 26, 2025, six firefighter positions will be eliminated, leaving two vacancies. Measure H positions will be added to the control list shortly. Fire prevention has one FTE and two limited‑term vacancies. Administration will lose one FTE secretary (transferred to Measure H) and a deputy emergency preparedness coordinator.
  • Fire Station Construction: Station 5 (Fountain Grove) is nearing completion, with a grand opening tentatively November 13–15, 2025. Station 8 (Roseland) grading plan is approved; groundbreaking could occur fall 2025 or January 2026, with completion expected June 2027. For Station 9 (southeast), the department is focusing on purchasing and retrofitting an existing commercial property to expedite and reduce costs.
  • Fleet: Five Type 1 fire engines are on order (four general fund, one PSAP) and expected by March 2026. Two Type 6 wildland engines, purchased with PG&E settlement funds, will be in service within 30 days, ahead of fire season.
  • Annual Report: The Fire Department released its first annual report for calendar year 2024, which will be distributed via Council FYI and in hard copy to the city manager and mayor.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes were taken. The subcommittee received the Measure H and Downtown Enforcement Team updates and provided direction.
  • Chair Okrepkie requested regular future updates on Measure H implementation.
  • Councilmember MacDonald and Chair Okrepkie directed staff to bring forward potential ordinance revisions for RV parking, waterways enforcement, and addressing service‑resistant homeless populations.
  • The subcommittee expressed appreciation to the Fire and Police departments for their presentations and work.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning. I'd like to ask the interpreter currently on the Spanish channel to commence interpretation of the meeting. For those just joining the meeting, live interpretation in Spanish is available, and members of the public or staff wishing to listen in Spanish can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon in the Zoom toolbar. It looks like a globe. Chief Westrope. Good morning, Cheryl Krepke, Councilmember McDonald. Scott Westrope, Fire Chief of the City of Santa Rosa Fire Department. Today I want to go through briefly where we're at with Measure H implementation and kind of give the subcommittee an update on where we're at. So as you recall, Measure H was passed by voters on March 5th of 2024. The City of Santa Rosa receives 14.4% of the direct funding from Measure H proceeds, which is a county countywide half cent sales tax measure. And then we have our REDCom fees covered, which is equates to about 1.5 million dollars as far as countywide technology and training fees we receive indirectly as well. We have received two payments on two tax rolls to date, totaling just about 4.2 million dollars in the bank currently. And we have a approved financial plan, and I just want to review where we're at with the financial plan and what it's going to provide for the Santa Rosa Fire Department. It's one additional engine company. This is a three-person staff 24-7 engine company that will be located in the southeast uh side of Santa Rosa. And we are working towards building a new fire station for that uh for that engine company, which will be station nine. Um as you recall, you approved counts full council approved the sale of the Franz Kafka property last year, which was actually has been in existence in the ownership of the City of Santa Rosa since 1998. Um but our current uh deployment analysis and strategic plan shows that's not the current the currently um appropriate location for station nine. So we're looking in the area of Santa Rosa Avenue and Elsa Drive is essentially where we're looking for engine nine. Measure H also provides for two additional vegetation management inspectors, um, one additional on duty battalion chief. We currently have one battalion chief that oversees uh 14 companies. Um so their span of control is is way too high. So this brings in a second battalion chief, and we'll be sitting splitting the city into a north-south configuration with two battalion chiefs. And then we're gonna get to a two-person staffed, um, eventually we'll expand that. But initially a two-person staffed 24-7 heavy rescue, um, which accounts for six FTEs. This will be a countywide uh operational area resource for uh shoring trench collapse, anything like that. So it'll be the first of its kind um in our county. And it also provides for administrative support of tax implementation and maintenance. So I just wanted to share with you what the essentially the leader's intent or the strategy was that I gave um the team to build this implementation plan with so you understand where they were coming from. Um it's to remain within the established financial plan and with long-term financial uh fiduciary responsibility and sustainability. Number one. Number two is balance the need for additional resources with what is reasonable and rational for the organization's capabilities. And what this means is we're in dire need of assistance on the streets. Um, our response times are long, our call volumes way up from the last time we added resources. So we all know, you know, you all and we all know that we need more resources on the street, but we want to do it right, we want to do it responsibly. And lastly, is to protect the current workforce and provide stay uh stability with forecast to general fund reductions in the next fiscal year. So, onto sort of the the meat of the conversation here is the implementation timeline that we have established, and there's a lot to this that I won't go into great detail on, but um with the fire inspectors, we can immediately um implement the fire inspectors, and the way that's accomplished is that we have two limited term fire inspectors currently on staff that they're that are hired under vegetation management with it, which is a grant funded um their grant funded positions. So we've transferred them over to FTEs um under general under measure H, and then we'll backfill the LT position. So we're able to do that immediately and provide stability for those two employees to make sure that they have an FT versus an LTE position. Um, and then the exciting news is that engine nine and battalion two are both gonna go into service um at the same time on October 6, 2025. So that gives us about three months at this point uh to get those resources uh ready to go. We're gonna put them in service on October 6th, but we'll announce it. We're gonna do a you know a more um robust ribbon cutting type ceremony on the anniversary of the tubs fire. We feel that it's an appropriate time to talk about the additional resources the community is providing via sales tax funding on the anniversary of the tubs fire on the on the 8th. And then rescue one will be in uh go in service. Right now it's scheduled to go in service July 1st of 2026. There's a lot to putting a new company on a new resource that we've never had before into service. So it constitutes rewriting all of our policies, all of our procedures, all of our company standards. So there's a lot of work that goes into that, and I'll talk a little bit about how we're planning to do that. But that's the initial timeline for all of these resources.

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