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Sioux City City Council Meeting - August 25, 2025

Council MeetingsMonday, August 25, 2025
BodySioux City, Iowa
SessionCouncil Meetings
DateMonday, August 25, 2025
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0:16

Scott Waters?

0:18

Here.

0:18

More.

0:19

Here.

0:20

We stand for a moment of silent error, followed by the pledge of the United States of America.

0:37

Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

0:46

Jack, you want here?

0:48

You want to come forward and tell us a little bit about yourself and why you want to serve.

0:57

Yep.

0:59

Well, you guys know I'm Jack Walsh.

1:01

Um, new to Sioux Sioux City, Iowa.

1:04

I'd like to serve because I'm working with um plan architecture with a passion for historic preservation, especially in the architectural world.

1:13

Um I'm from South Dakota, Pierce, South Dakota, but my family, grandparents, parents were raised in Sioux City, so I've been here a number of times before choosing to live here currently.

1:23

Who was your grandparents?

1:25

Uh Michael Walsh.

1:27

Okay.

1:27

He was a Woodbury County judge, and then Tim Bloom was uh officer here in town.

1:34

And then good judge, I might add.

1:39

Sweet.

1:39

Well, city attorney too.

1:41

City attorney too.

1:42

City attorney.

1:43

I get to see him at 5 30 tonight.

1:44

We're going to Mordows.

1:46

You'd have to be old like Dan and I to remember that.

1:48

Yeah.

1:50

Yeah, tell them hi for us.

1:51

We'll do.

1:52

And thanks for uh making the application because you're you're new to the community and you're showing that interest.

1:57

I think you can add a lot to the historic preservation committee or commission.

2:02

So thank you.

2:02

Yeah.

2:03

Thanks.

2:04

Thanks, ma'am.

2:04

All right, thank you.

2:06

We'll go to the consent agenda next, which is items three through 13D.

2:10

You can consider them to pass unanimously unless a separate roll call vote is requested by a council member.

2:16

If you want to speak on an agenda item, please come up as I read that number.

2:20

If you want to speak on an item not on the agenda, please come up under citizen concerns and remember to always state your name.

2:26

I'll move the consent agenda.

2:28

Second.

2:28

Three is a reading of the August 18th City Council minutes.

2:33

Four is a motion appointing Don Kirkpatrick to the Human Rights Commission.

2:39

Five is a resolution temporary closing a section of Fourth Street on October 18th for the art affair.

2:47

Six is a resolution awarding a purchase order to Johnson Lancaster and Associates for one gas fryer.

2:55

Seven are actions relating to grants.

2:57

A is a resolution approving a grant agreement with IDOT for airport improvements program funding through the state airport development program for the South Ramp Reconstruction Project.

3:11

B is a resolution approving a grant agreement with IDOT for the commercial service vertical infrastructure funding through the state airport development program for final phases of the terminal rope replacement boilers and doors.

3:29

A is a resolution approving a merchant of record services agreement with Masabi and the CAD AVL and Mobile Fair Payment System for Transit.

3:40

A or B is a resolution awarding a consulting services agreement to municipal H2O for reviewing and updating the risk and resilience assessment plan and emergency response plan.

3:54

C is a resolution approving a contract or restoration systems for the Discovery Parking Ramp Repair Project.

4:01

Actions relating to personnel A is a motion approving the annual performance evaluation for the human rights director for 2024.

4:10

B is a motion approving the annual performance evaluation for the human rights director for fiscal year 2025.

4:19

C is a resolution appointing Thomas Pingle as the public works director.

4:24

I have a couple of comments on that if I may.

5:08

And I'm I'm really glad that you're willing to take that on.

5:11

I I'm just really pleased.

5:13

And and this is good news.

5:15

The vacancy the it's been vacant for what almost two years, I think.

5:19

And uh Tom Pingle, you're you're the one, so thank you.

5:26

Is a resolution authorizing payment to Blackhawk Roof for the terminal roof replacement project at the airport?

5:32

B is a resolution authorizing payment to Dostel's construction for the Hedington Parks Blast Pad Project.

5:39

Eleven are applications for cigarette tobacco, nicotine, and vapor product permits, 12 are applications for alcohol licenses, 13 are board, commission, and committee minutes.

5:49

Anyone to be heard on any of those items passes 50 recommendations of P and Z 14's a motion acknowledging the Board of Adjustment Actions of August 12th.

6:14

I'll move that.

6:15

Second councilwoman Sheener.

6:46

Um 15 is a resolution approving the final plat of Tree addition, the petitioner's sue land equity, the P and Z recommends approval.

6:53

I'll move that.

6:54

Second.

7:05

Do you hire a local contractor to finish those street lights in town?

7:10

No.

7:11

They were fixing some today, so I thought maybe 50.

7:14

16 is an ordinance dedicating and naming land commonly known as 3427 Old Lakeport Road as old Lakeport Road.

7:23

The petitioners, the City of Sioux City and P and Z recommends approval.

7:26

I'll move that.

7:27

Second.

7:29

Yeah, Andrew Gleiser Planning Zoning Chair, just if you guys have any questions.

7:33

I passes five zero.

7:48

Is anybody opposed to waiving the statutory rule?

7:51

No.

7:52

Move it.

7:55

Scott?

7:56

Waters.

7:56

Aye.

7:57

Moore.

7:58

Aye.

7:58

O'Kane.

7:59

Aye.

7:59

Move second, third, second.

8:02

Scott?

8:03

Waters.

8:04

Aye.

8:04

More.

8:05

Aye.

8:06

O'Kane.

8:06

Aye.

8:07

Shayner.

8:07

Aye.

8:09

17's a hearing and ordinance vacating a portion of Madison Street and a portion of 45th Street, adjacent 4510 Van Buren Street.

8:17

The petitioners, Barry Bulkey, and Melissa Ihorn.

8:20

P and Z recommends approval of the vacation of the Madison Street, but recommends denial of the vacation of the 45th Street.

8:28

So we would move it as presented, and then if we want, so I'll move it.

8:34

Second.

8:36

And we're going to need, I know they're here to speak.

8:41

Go ahead though.

8:43

Yeah, we, you know, we kind of based our motion off of what city engineering said about leaving 46th Street open for future progress that's possibly getting planned on the adjacent property.

8:56

So that's kind of what planning and zoning did.

8:58

They followed the recommendation of city engineering.

9:09

Is 46th Street?

9:12

It doesn't, it's not one that runs all the way through.

9:14

That's 45th, right?

9:15

What which ones runs all the way through?

9:19

So where would they engineer those 46 that uh can I take open this up?

9:26

Yeah, I want I didn't get it.

9:29

I couldn't open his, so I have a picture of it at that house.

9:50

I think Gordon's gonna put it up.

9:54

Is this what you're looking at?

9:57

Yeah, but oh it's 45th.

10:00

I see where you're saying.

10:02

Yeah, it's 45th.

10:03

That's what I think.

10:11

And you think that'll be punched through someday, Gordon, 45th?

10:15

Possible.

10:16

Huh?

10:16

It'll be tough, but it it is possible.

10:19

Anything's possible.

10:23

Is there a likelihood that you would ever need it?

10:29

I believe so.

10:30

I mean, when that property to the west gets developed, that could easily be in there.

10:37

That could be a secondary access, if not secondary, but it would also be for utilities.

10:42

I'll get to it here.

10:44

Okay.

10:49

You guys want to talk, come on up.

10:51

Okay.

10:51

So here it is.

10:53

Can you see my cursor there?

10:55

Yeah.

10:55

So this is the street.

10:57

45th Street.

10:58

This is 45th.

11:00

Yeah, because 46th runs through.

11:03

Right.

11:04

So we have water and sewer down here on Van Buren at right at the end.

11:10

That would be.

11:14

I see.

11:14

I just said, oh, I see what you're saying.

11:17

Yeah.

11:17

And that could be easily taken.

11:19

Uh not easily.

11:20

No, I don't take that back.

11:21

Not easily.

11:22

It would have there would be definitely some um excavating to get water and sewer up to this site and over to this this vacant field.

11:34

But you're saying in the event that that would be developed, you would want to punch 45th through to be able to feed it.

11:43

It would be it would be um a good secondary access through this and um on 45th and at Van Buren going north.

11:55

Not necessarily south because there's there's a severe grade drop off there on that side.

12:01

It still could be it still could be graded, but I mean it would be very difficult.

12:06

But um it could also go through to 45th.

12:10

I hiked it today.

12:15

Yes, sir.

12:16

Uh very bulky.

12:19

Uh 4103 Jefferson Street.

12:23

No worries.

12:24

You're good.

12:24

You're good.

12:25

No, no, I just it's calm me a little bit here.

12:28

Um so me and my wife wanted to buy 45th Street.

12:32

Our property is actually directly to the south there.

12:35

Um, we wanted to buy that because that would give us an ability, because that 14-foot alley there to the north is the only access that we're gonna be able to have currently.

12:48

And so therefore we wanted to buy that property so we can push our easements further to the north.

12:53

Um we we've walked out there many times.

12:56

I I'm kind of s confused because as you said, there's a very steep grade.

13:01

I didn't think this was gonna be an issue considering that the the zoning also went out there and walked it, and they didn't think it was gonna be an issue.

13:09

But at the end of 45th Street, where it's like an alley.

13:13

Um I had sent you guys pictures, I don't know if you got a chance to look at them.

13:16

It's a 50-foot cliff.

13:17

It's not just a grade, it's it's 50 feet, and from there it continues to climb to the top of the hill where my property is and go down.

13:25

Where's the cliff at on here?

13:27

Because I did open your pictures.

13:28

Oh, sorry, right here.

13:29

Uh so the cliff is I couldn't figure out the perspective.

13:33

Sorry, sorry.

13:34

So the cliff is actually if you go to the right.

13:37

Right.

13:38

Not left.

13:39

Right?

13:39

Right.

13:39

Yep.

13:40

Keep going, keep going, keep going.

13:41

There.

13:42

That's that 50-foot cliff.

13:44

That is where 45th Street ends.

13:48

Ends.

13:48

And so then the last picture that I took on Van Buren is at where Van Buren is.

13:53

So if you go to Van Buren Street and go a little bit south, yeah, right there.

13:57

Yeah.

13:57

That shows that it's a 45 degree angle straight up.

14:01

Any like I was told, anything can be built, but at a cost, considering the fact that yet again I was confused because 46th Street is gravel road runs right adjacent to that property, as well as Jefferson Street on the west side, which I sent you guys the pictures of what the grade is.

14:20

Like it's it's not a 50-foot cliff and a hillside that they're trying to develop over.

14:25

So that's why I was just kind of confused of why this is an issue.

14:29

I know um the guy, um, Mr.

14:32

Reynolds that owns the property that he said is going to be developed.

14:36

He had claimed his houses to the north.

14:41

He owns that property there, and then the property that's to the north.

14:46

Nope.

14:46

No.

14:47

Nope.

14:47

That's uh this one?

14:48

Yep.

14:49

He owns that property there.

14:51

And then also Madison Street that he had bought from the city to be vacant.

14:56

What about the L shape around his property, Gordon?

14:58

That one.

15:00

That one there is that's somebody else.

15:01

Oh, rent sucks.

15:02

Somebody else.

15:02

Yeah, that's rent sucks.

15:03

And the strip two?

15:05

Sorry, strip?

15:07

To the left there.

15:08

Well, Mr.

15:09

Reynolds owns of it right next to Rent sucks, but the whole thing up at the top.

15:14

So yet again, why I was kind of confused because he had already bought a street on so this this land that he says he's gonna develop.

15:23

He owns the property to the east.

15:25

The north and west, the city owns, which by my pictures kind of shows like is the north side gonna be a little bit harder because there's a hump, yeah.

15:35

But as a person that lives on Jefferson Street, it's pretty flat there.

15:40

Like so he can get into his whole property on Jefferson Street and 46th Street if he wants to.

15:50

This this guy here, yes.

15:51

Yes, if he wants to develop it in the future, I'm saying your water in Jefferson Street.

15:58

Yeah.

15:59

Jefferson?

16:00

Yeah, because I actually in the picture I sent you guys, there's a hydrant literally right next to us.

16:10

It's pretty much at the property.

16:12

What are you gonna do with yours?

16:13

So for mine is we're building a house up there.

16:16

Like, like I said, I've lived in Leeds, I love Leeds, you guys know that.

16:20

So therefore, for me, I wanted to build a house here because I met a fellow community club member, and she's I talked about I'm glad you bought that property because it's beautiful up there.

16:30

She's like, Oh, well, guess what?

16:33

And now I get to actually build a house here in Leeds that my wife, my wife's from Canada, like she always joked with me about the whole living in Leeds thing.

16:43

Like, you're and now when this became an opportunity for us, it was amazing because it's like so.

16:49

For us, we're building a house.

16:51

Like I said, it's a hill, so us being able to push the house further north makes it a lot easier for us.

16:57

And we wanted to buy 45th.

16:59

The zoning told us then for Madison, well, we don't like to landlock city property.

17:05

So we said, okay, we're willing to spend the extra money to buy Madison from the city.

17:09

That way it's not landlocked.

17:11

So like I said.

17:11

When did you do that?

17:12

Huh?

17:13

When did you do that?

17:14

We are that's that's part of the.

17:15

That's part of this.

17:16

Okay, gotcha.

17:18

So that's why we're like I said, I was kind of confused when all of a sudden there was pushback when we're planning on doing more than we needed to for a piece of property that is just a hillside.

17:28

Where are you gonna access off of?

17:30

That alleyway, that 14-foot alleyway.

17:34

You're gonna go down from 46th.

17:36

Yep.

17:38

Oh.

17:39

And that's the same thing.

17:39

So you want to build on the far north end and access off 46th and then that access.

17:45

Yeah, we don't want to.

17:46

But then you're not gonna have any other way out.

17:48

It's just that acts as your driveway, essentially.

17:51

Just like the other houses on that alleyway.

17:53

There's the three other houses are using that alleyway as their access as well.

17:57

Is there access the other direction?

18:00

No, that is hillside and street.

18:01

Oh and we're planning on leaving it that way because it it will be.

18:05

And you don't have a house there now, right?

18:07

It's just yeah, it's just low.

18:09

No, we're we're going to be developing it.

18:11

Nice.

18:12

Well, and it's I don't it's tough, I guess, from my standpoint, right?

18:20

Like I'm trying to think of I'm a big believer in future planning and thinking about where we could go and and what you could do, and you're right.

18:29

I mean, it looks like beautiful ground out there.

18:32

And so if you have an opportunity to develop that area, you know, even the fields on that side, if you do larger lots or you know, more people would be able to enjoy that, much how you want to enjoy it.

18:43

And it's tough thinking about it too, because then I don't know the feasibility of extending 45th.

18:50

I that I don't know.

18:51

And it looks challenging.

18:53

I I'm with you, but I mean, people do more wild things than I could imagine.

18:58

And so I would just wonder like if you didn't push as far north, you know, if you kept in line just below that level of 45th and built, you know, you'd still have all that land down that one side, and but then you'd have another road to be able to access out if it ever did, right?

19:18

Like if 45th ever extended, then you'd have another way to get out rather than just that alleyway.

19:25

Right.

19:25

But in the same process, then you guys so say I build my house.

19:30

Yeah.

19:30

And you put that road through.

19:32

I'm trapped.

19:34

What do you mean?

19:35

When that road's being developed, I'm trapped.

19:37

I won't be able to get to my house.

19:39

And on top of it, like I said, with that grade there.

19:42

So I do have to do that.

19:44

Well, but I mean they would probably they would they're gonna cut a valley through there in order to get that to work.

19:52

Because you'd imagine they would start on the east if it is, you know, work their way, so you would continue using that alleyway until then they got there.

20:01

Yeah, right.

20:01

You're but I mean I think he's referring to his a driveway.

20:04

His house would be sitting so far up.

20:07

Yeah, that they're gonna carve like for for road development, like you don't just build over the hills.

20:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:15

You're gonna like I've worked on a lot of civil drawings.

20:18

Great is an issue, and nobody likes Polk Street anymore.

20:21

Like, and that's what this would turn into, unless, like he said, you're gonna spend a lot of money to carve a valley through there where you already have the two roads to either side, all right?

20:34

And potentially a third if that highlighted part there, Mr.

20:37

Reynolds wanted to sell that to the developer for a third access.

20:42

So yeah, you're saying just utilize 46th and Jefferson and access that land rather than worrying about punching through.

20:50

Yeah, like I said, that's why I was just confused by this, because this is just land that's just kind of sitting there not doing anything all these years, and I wanted to buy it, and now all of a sudden it turned into a little bit of contention.

21:02

That's why I'm kind of that's why before you guys.

21:05

Yeah, instead yeah.

21:06

Is Mr.

21:07

Reynolds land is that cropland right now?

21:10

Currently, yeah.

21:11

Mr.

21:12

Gleiser, did anyone object to you?

21:14

No, we're that was that was unanimous 7-0.

21:18

We we basically no one showed up to to object to it.

21:22

Uh Reynolds staff.

21:24

Yeah, Reynolds Reynolds did because he said he accesses that land through that alley from the north, the same alley they used to access their property.

21:35

He uses that alley to access his farm ground.

21:39

So he he very much objected to it.

21:44

I've been around here a long time.

21:47

Reynolds would be like the fourth guy that I know that said is gonna develop this piece of property.

21:57

I don't have enough years left for this piece of property to ever get developed.

22:01

Yeah.

22:01

Topography is unbelievable.

22:04

Right.

22:05

And that and that probably owns the whole piece of ground there.

22:08

How and if he wants to access his ground, it's his back door.

22:12

Why is that a problem?

22:13

I guess I don't understand that.

22:15

That that wasn't so I don't believe that was so much a problem for us.

22:18

It was it was you know a little bit of that and a lot of Gordon saying that that was how they would get utilities to that property in the future.

22:26

But you're not gonna punch, you're not gonna punch Madison Street through or whatever, do you think, Gordon?

22:33

No.

22:33

No.

22:34

You're not gonna punch it, so you're gonna have to you're gonna loop a water line through and connect up to 46 off of Jefferson.

22:42

Yeah, you'll punch it through up up Van Buren across 40 5th, 45th, and into this property, connecting to Jefferson and 46, but there's also sanitary too.

22:54

The sanitary is downhill from there.

22:56

It wouldn't actually be beneficial if it did hit down at um Van Buren and south of 45th.

23:03

Would you have to put a pump station in then at the top of the hill for that sanitary?

23:07

No, no, that'd be gravity fed down that way, because it's down below.

23:11

What would happen if it's property on your boat on 45th?

23:15

What's that?

23:19

The gentleman that's objecting, his property has natural slope to it, right?

23:24

It's not flat flat.

23:26

It's not flat flat, but it's saying you your sewer's gonna drain to Jefferson at the end of the day.

23:33

It can anyway, and you're gonna you can loop a water if if he's seriously gonna develop it, you can you're gonna put a street in there, a cul-de-sac of some kind, and you can loop that water back up to 46th.

23:48

That's what I keep thinking is that it's like how much work would the developer want to put in to do 45th Street if you could go off of 46th or Jefferson.

24:00

Not necessarily putting in a street again, it's just for the access to the water sewer.

24:05

Well, then they don't have to put in a street for that.

24:09

Yeah, but you're still gonna have a load of dirt to move to do it.

24:13

Yeah, that is correct.

24:14

So how how how fair is that to a person that's buying a piece of property with no plans out there to develop that you're gonna change his driveway so dramatic when you get done, he can't get into his own house.

24:29

When we're letting him buy the side street, that makes that that's just that's hard for me to understand how I mean basically you're telling him lower your lot right now because you may not be able to hook on to it.

24:43

No, that's not it at all.

24:45

Well, that's what's gonna happen.

24:46

No, he doesn't we don't know he doesn't got he doesn't have plans for where his house is going.

24:51

Okay.

24:52

And when it goes when a street does go in there, if a street ever goes in there, then that would have to be modified to accommodate them.

25:00

We're not gonna leave them hanging, literally.

25:04

Okay.

25:08

Well, as it's presented to P and Z, if we vote yes, then it means we don't accept it's the way that it is currently on the agenda is for vacation of both tracks that we've got exactly because that's what they petition.

25:23

Yes.

25:23

So if we vote yes, he gets them both correct.

25:28

I thought we had a condition where it was just the council would have to amend say accept the question.

25:35

We have to vote on it how it comes to you or amend as you did.

25:41

That's why I'm explaining.

25:42

I'm not okay.

25:43

I'm just explaining to them what we have to do.

25:46

And this is just on the vacation stuff for today, just the vacation.

25:54

Is anybody want to amend it?

25:59

Okay, then vote.

26:01

Anybody else here to be heard on it?

26:03

Is there anybody else to be heard?

26:08

Come on up, state your name.

26:11

Uh-oh, now he's bringing the big guns up.

26:14

Here we go.

26:15

No, Melissa Einhorn at 4103 Jefferson.

26:18

Um, I just wanted to make a note that when he gave his recommendation, I don't think he'd had a chance to see the property yet.

26:25

Whereas zoning actually violent and look at the property.

26:28

I don't know if that's changed yet that you've had a chance to look at it or not.

26:32

Yes, I think that was my nobody else be heard, so go ahead and vote, and then we'll see what it how the vote goes.

26:48

Um it passes five zero, which means it passed the way you presented it.

26:59

Um I don't want to waive the statutory rule that'll give the other owner a chance to come in next week.

27:05

So it got first reading, it takes three.

27:08

So, but you got first reading through what the way you presented it.

27:12

Okay.

27:20

18 is a hearing and ordinance amending chapter 25.02 entitled zoning districts and land uses and chapter 2507 and titled Definitions of Municipal Code.

27:31

The petitioner is the city of Sioux City and P and Z recommends approval.

27:38

I'd I just like to thank staff.

27:42

I'm sorry, second.

27:43

Okay, public.

27:44

I'd I just like to thank staff.

27:45

I think they did a great job with you know taking their time going through and making the correct changes to the ordinance to uh make it better for for the community, I guess.

27:59

They did they put a lot of things.

28:04

Right.

28:05

We're not going to either based on our living.

28:07

I'm I'm with the mayor on that.

28:09

I just I struggle because I agree, I understand where you're coming from, and you know, I community members reach out or constituents reach out to me about the difference between used dealerships that are littering all over each corner of our community and proliferating like mad.

28:31

There's a difference between those and brand new dealerships, you know, or coming to town or offering a different make model, whatever it is.

28:38

I understand that, and so I appreciate, but it's it's just like where does that end?

28:45

Or you know, and so I guess that was gonna be if I had a question, my one question would be I know that we break it out into new and used and then used.

28:56

Is there a level or a balance of that?

28:58

Like if I have five brand new cars but 60 used cars.

29:04

I mean you know what I mean.

29:07

Like I think people try to game the system or you know, like work around these different types of things, and I just want to make sure that it's the intent of what we have here today, because I'm I'm with the mayor as such that it's like, gosh, we have double the amount of dealerships as our peers.

29:24

Like, where does that end, and how do you have a hard stop to cut that back?

29:29

Which old planning uh that was a consideration, and how we got to the new and used is that most new dealers, yeah, franchisees also sell use cars I can completely agree, and usually they're at a much different level and they have the ground, but I'm saying if someone came in, you know, is there a balance of a percentage?

29:51

You know, how many have to be new verses or the amount of ground?

30:00

Because usually these new dealerships aren't carrying a ton of new, or if they are, they're newer models and models like that were traded in for the brand new vehicles.

30:08

I don't know what that looks like.

30:09

Wade, I'm just trying to think through.

30:11

Part of this how we broke these out, we also wrote new definitions for each of those uh standards.

30:17

Uh and so that's how we would break that out.

30:20

And so part of that change is with the new definition so that it explains where everybody would fall into it.

30:30

But but here's what you got to be careful from for today that we didn't even think about when you wrote this ordinance.

30:37

Maybe you guys did, but I don't believe so.

30:39

Now you can go get a nice little dealer's license because you're selling Nicole doesn't want to hear this golf carts that are fully licensed and go 30 miles an hour and have seat belts, and they're a new vehicle.

30:52

And you can put four or five of them on a lot, and you got a new car dealership.

30:59

And then you can have 35 use cars.

31:01

And a lot of in an example is the guy in on the way to Lawton.

31:08

He's got those, he's got those licensed electrical golf carts, basically, but they're licensed.

31:15

They're like B T V type golf cards.

31:17

Can't stop them if they're licensed vehicles.

31:20

They're DOT approved.

31:22

And he's got 15 used cars.

31:25

That's that's just another can of worms that we open here.

31:33

That I I I mean, I appreciate you guys have spent a lot of time on this.

31:38

But car lots do I have to drive by going to my office in the morning.

31:45

How many before we say it's enough?

31:48

I heard uh Stephen Postalka City Legal, just to build on what Wade was saying.

31:52

Um I think there is a little bit of a limitation in terms of uh you know who's gonna hand out the franchises to the new dealers, especially in the now about the golf cart thing.

32:00

That's a new thing.

32:00

I hadn't thought of that.

32:01

But yeah, but I didn't either until I knew that guy was selling them out.

32:05

Yeah, but like Chevy's not gonna start a new authorize a new dealership.

32:08

He would Neffler directly, right, on new sales.

32:10

But the other thing is, and and uh what I wanted to point out is uh one of the things this ordinance tar targets majorly is the pocket car dealerships that that uh we've seen a lot of uh applications for it uh that seem to be located in neighborhoods that aren't really suited to that use.

32:25

And this ordinance balances or I think strikes the right balance by placing a limit, rather a lower limit on the lot size you can have for a new used car dealership, right?

32:38

Uh but also allowing things like when you know we have the bypass going in, there's some people that are getting bought out, stuff like that, or there's other you know, people just sell their lot for any reason, you know, allowing them to relocate even with the the cap and everything to kind of protect their rights in that niche case that does not nevertheless come up, but uh again, keeping them out of the the smaller business areas that aren't really suited to really any car lot, let alone car lot.

33:06

With triple stack in their cars, so you can't walk through a lot.

33:10

I'd like them to quit parking on the grass, like them to have to have pavement, and I'd like to have to.

33:17

I mean, drive by them.

33:18

They're not they're not complying yet.

33:21

One of the things that going forward, and I know you guys have made it very clear to us that the enforcement of the site plan that the parking spots would be mapped out and marked so that you could drive through.

33:35

So that is by plan doesn't do anything if you don't have enforcement of that site plan.

33:42

I mean, drive Lewis Boulevard.

33:44

I'm not gonna say which side of the street, because I don't need to get sued today.

33:48

Just drive Lewis Boulevard and tell me how you drive a car through some of those lots.

33:54

I know we have been enforcing the the code to some degree, at least on these dealerships.

33:57

I'd like if if there's future violators, obviously.

34:09

I don't know if Ron's here today or not, but I'd have to point to that.

34:12

I know they have been doing some degree of notes.

34:14

And I guess I do have a a question with that.

34:16

Maybe it is maybe it's a part of some.

34:18

I don't know if this gets me sued, so the mayor probably understands better.

34:22

But there is one on Lewis Boulevard closer to uh La Wanitas, the new Lawanitas down in that area, just you know where I'm trying to and they installed a sidewalk to be able to get through.

34:34

They moved a whole bunch of cars so that they could site plan process is okay.

34:40

Because they actually there are a lot actually.

34:42

If you go look at those lots along there, most of those lots all extend into the right-of-way as of today.

34:49

And um we've actually I've act this is kind of interesting, but we actually got a compliment from one of the state snowplow drivers because they were have to slow down so far because they throw snow onto those cars and then they come and complain to them.

35:01

They don't do that at my house, but I appreciate their so uh but it well, I was just gonna because I was gonna compliment you and say that I appreciate like I could tell then it's a lot cleaner look.

35:13

They moved them back, it's not as congested.

35:15

There's gonna be a sidewalk, presumably going through there now.

35:19

Like I'm gonna do that.

35:21

If we're gonna do more of that stuff, you know, and trying to hold people accountable for those different things.

35:27

I appreciate that.

35:28

I just well, and and this this gives an avenue to be a lot more specific as to what is required so that enforcement can write tickets if so choose but but it's it's a lot clearer, and there's a lot less gray area.

35:44

I think it uh and it's encouraged a lot of the dealerships in town too.

35:48

Not all of them, but many of them have cleaned up nicely, and hopefully we'll stay that way.

35:53

Well, mayor, we just need to move the people doing the weed violations, move that over to the dealership violation.

36:01

I mean, they're they're on top of those complaints.

36:04

I mean they should have some free time soon, right?

36:06

Yeah, but exactly.

36:08

We're changing seasons.

36:11

But we did hear from one of them that we did grant uh a license during that two-month period when they uh between the moratoriums and when he was installing and doing his improvements, he did get compliments from people driving by, and so it is noticeable, and I think that's something to say about that.

36:30

Right, those space slips might actually get someone to stop there and buy a vehicle, you know.

36:34

I'm telling you, driving by I noticed, and I was like, this looks so much better.

36:40

I was very impressed and happy with that.

36:42

Um, one other question that I had oh, was and maybe it gets to kind of what South Sue did, you know, to at least stem some of those back or be able to shrink that down.

36:54

My question is if they were to sell, like say we buy a we or someone else bought it for development, and then they had to relocate, right?

37:04

We were talking about that they would have the ability to relocate that dealership as long as it was conforming and figure that out.

37:11

Do we have a is there a timeline on that?

37:14

Like, did South Sioux or did anywhere else give a timeline?

37:18

I just don't want them to be like, okay, well, we'll move, but there's no lot available, there's no place that we can't, so now indefinitely we will have this ability to open it up.

37:28

Yeah, so part of the condition that we we made a little caveat in there to allow anybody that's taken for some type of street redevelopment purpose.

37:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

37:41

Uh so this would directly, and I know you you all kind of directed us to do play take a look at this.

37:47

Yes.

37:48

The Gordon Drive.

37:49

Yeah, yeah.

37:50

And uh it's a one-year period, isn't it?

37:54

Well, uh we were gonna allow them to move.

37:57

Yeah, yes.

37:58

But uh this also allows anybody going forward if there was to be another street project down the road, any type of expansion that they could potentially move if the state or somebody buys them out.

38:14

But they have to do it within 12 months, don't they?

38:16

Yes.

38:17

Okay.

38:18

That was my question.

38:19

Yeah, we we we treated just like uh if memory, I don't have a copy in front of me, but I thought we treat it just like uh legal non-conforming uses nowadays.

38:25

Right.

38:25

If you see if you see some non-conforming use, if you if you restart it within the 12 months, that's fine.

38:30

If you don't, then it's gone.

38:32

Okay.

38:32

So same kind of language.

38:34

All right.

38:36

Okay.

38:36

You've got any other questions.

38:39

Thanks for your time on this.

38:41

I know it's thank you.

38:43

Yes, our public policy team worked on that too.

39:04

No.

39:05

We'll do second, third next week.

39:07

19 is a hearing and resolution approving plans and specs for the terminal rooftop unit replacement phase two project.

39:13

I'll move that.

39:15

Second.

39:15

Public hearings now open.

39:17

Anyone to be heard?

39:19

Seeing none, the hearings closed.

39:36

Hearing and resolution approving first amendment to the lease agreement with Western Iowa Tech Community College for property known as Ruger Field 4800 Laurel Avenue to extend the term of the lease.

39:46

I'll move that.

39:47

Second.

39:48

Public hearings now open.

39:49

Anyone to be heard?

39:52

Seeing none, the hearing is closed.

40:05

House is 50.

40:06

Are any citizens in the audience want to be heard?

40:08

If so, please come to the microphone, state your name.

40:13

Seeing none, we will go to council concerns.

40:16

Rocaine.

40:18

Great first day back at school.

40:20

Um that's everything for this week.

40:30

Okay.

40:30

I usually bring up construction and detours and those kinds of things, so I'm gonna continue on that path.

40:38

Um there is a new parking ordinance going on on outer drive by the schools by North Middle.

40:47

Um there is no longer parking allowed on the street, it's just been too congested and it's become too unsafe.

40:58

Um we've communicated with the school, and there's plenty of parking space inside of the school, and I think that people feel it's more convenient to be on the street, but it's also more dangerous.

41:09

So the temporary signs went up last Friday.

41:13

Um I cut through there on my way here today.

41:16

There was no one parked on the street.

41:18

It was wonderful.

41:19

So they're going in the parking lot, they're coming out on Buckwalter and going to the light, which is how they should be doing it.

41:26

So it worked out very well.

41:28

I didn't see one car there, and I was a little shocked actually, but I'm just glad that everybody followed those signs, and the regular signs will be installed once the locators get out there and make sure there's no utilities there.

41:40

So there's we got 4th Street, employed street bridges back open and up and running.

41:47

Um gosh, people asked about is it gonna still shake?

41:51

Uh the one unemployed.

41:53

Absolutely, yes, it's going to still shake.

41:55

It has to do that because if it doesn't shake, it will break.

41:57

That's what the engineers tell me.

41:59

Um, it's gotta it's got a gib.

42:03

Um, otherwise, that's it.

42:05

I don't have any on the thing.

42:09

All I have is um, it was a busy week.

42:12

I know, or busy weekend in Sioux City with the different concerts downtown.

42:16

I'm told that they went really well and saw a lot of people filling them out, filling them out and traveling, so our traveling down to it.

42:26

You like that?

42:28

So um uh so uh no, I think that's all I have, Mayor.

42:33

That's it, huh?

42:34

That's it, buddy.

42:35

Okay, and a couple things uh following Matthew's comments.

42:40

Be sure and watch the school buses with they have the red lights going.

42:45

Please stop, watch for the kids, the pedestrians, it's extremely important.

42:50

Um, and then secondly, just uh hopefully hopefully everybody's getting their comments into Janelle with regard to the city manager um proceedings that we are trying to address.

43:01

That's all I have.

43:03

Yesterday I had to uh give a welcome to I'll I'm not yeah, I know Olo Como está on Muchas Gratis, other net my five years of Spanish biggest waste of public education money that I can think of.

43:19

Mexico in El Corazone.

43:21

Yep.

43:22

It was were you there?

43:24

I couldn't make it.

43:24

It was absolutely fabulous.

43:27

It was unbelievable.

43:29

And uh I was gonna say I I helped the group or worked with them the whole way here, and then I had to do a speech across town.

43:36

But it was very nice.

43:38

I mean, the the musicians were as first class as I couldn't believe it.

43:45

So I didn't know there, I always thought there was one type of Mexican music mirachi bands, but there's another type like the Desi Arnez type band big band outstanding, and the dancers were great.

43:58

And other than that, the Bears beat the Chiefs and the Cyclones won in Ireland.

44:02

How could it be any better weekend than that?

44:04

I move we adjourn.

44:06

Second.

44:07

Waters.

44:08

Aye.

44:09

More aye.

44:10

O'Kane.

44:10

Aye.

44:11

Shanner.

44:12

Hi.

44:12

Scott.

44:13

I told you I would do that.

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Summary of Proceedings

Sioux City City Council Meeting - August 25, 2025

The Sioux City City Council convened on August 25, 2025, at 5:30 PM (transcript start time inferred from discussion) to address a consent agenda, public hearings, and several ordinance amendments. Key actions included appointments, approvals of plats and vacations, and extensive deliberation on proposed zoning changes for automobile dealerships.

Consent Calendar

  • Items 3 through 13D were approved unanimously by a 5-0 vote, including:
    • Reading of August 18th City Council minutes.
    • Appointment of Don Kirkpatrick to the Human Rights Commission.
    • Temporary street closure for the Art Affair (October 18th on Fourth Street).
    • Purchase order for one gas fryer from Johnson Lancaster and Associates.
    • Grant agreements with IDOT for airport improvements (South Ramp Reconstruction, terminal roof replacement, boilers and doors).
    • Agreement with Masabi for mobile fare payment system for transit.
    • Consulting agreement with Municipal H2O for risk and resilience assessment updates.
    • Contract with Restoration Systems for Discovery Parking Ramp repair.
    • Personnel actions: approval of annual performance evaluations for the Human Rights Director (FY2024 and FY2025) and appointment of Thomas Pingle as Public Works Director.
    • Authorizations for payments to Blackhawk Roof and Dostel's Construction for airport and park projects.
    • Cigarette, tobacco, nicotine, and vapor product permits; alcohol licenses; and board/commission minutes.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No citizen concerns were raised during public comment periods. Several individuals spoke during individual agenda items (see Discussion Items).

Discussion Items

  • Appointment to Historic Preservation Commission: Jack Walsh, new to Sioux City and an architect with a passion for historic preservation, introduced himself and stated his desire to serve. The council welcomed his application.
  • Item 15 – Final Plat of Tree Addition: Approved 5-0 as recommended by Planning and Zoning (P&Z). Council member asked if a local contractor would finish street lights; response was that repairs were ongoing.
  • Item 16 – Ordinance Dedicating Land as Old Lakeport Road: Approved 5-0, waiving statutory rule.
  • Item 17 – Vacation of Madison Street and 45th Street: This item involved a hearing. Petitioners Barry Bulkey and Melissa Ihorn sought vacation of both streets adjacent to their property at 4510 Van Buren Street. P&Z recommended approval for Madison Street but denial for 45th Street due to potential future development of adjacent land owned by Mr. Reynolds. Petitioners argued that 45th Street ends at a 50-foot cliff, making extension impractical, and that they already planned to buy Madison Street to avoid landlocking city property. City Engineer Gordon noted that extending 45th Street could provide secondary access and utility routes for future development, though challenging. Council discussed topography and feasibility. After hearing from petitioners and P&Z Chair Andrew Gleiser (who noted a 7-0 unanimous recommendation from P&Z), the council voted 5-0 to approve the vacation of both streets as presented. The statutory rule was not waived, so the ordinance received first reading and will require two more readings.
  • Item 18 – Ordinance Amending Zoning Districts and Definitions (Auto Dealerships): The council heard a second reading of the ordinance. Staff presented new definitions for new and used car dealerships, aiming to reduce small pocket dealerships, require paved lots, and enforce site plans. Council members expressed concerns about enforcement, the potential for dealerships to game the system (e.g., selling golf carts as new vehicles), and the proliferation of used car lots. City Legal (Stephen Postalka) clarified the limits and relocation provisions (12-month window for displaced dealerships due to street projects). The ordinance passed 5-0 and will proceed to third reading.
  • Item 19 – Terminal Rooftop Unit Replacement Phase 2: Hearing opened and closed with no public testimony; resolution approved 5-0.
  • Item 20 – Lease Amendment with Western Iowa Tech Community College for Rugby Field: Hearing opened and closed; resolution approving amendment to extend lease term approved 5-0.

Key Outcomes

  • Jack Walsh appointed to the Historic Preservation Commission (moved from consent agenda discussion).
  • Consent agenda approved unanimously (5-0).
  • Final plat of Tree addition approved (5-0).
  • Ordinance dedicating Old Lakeport Road approved (5-0).
  • Vacation of Madison Street and 45th Street approved (5-0) on first reading; second and third readings required.
  • Zoning ordinance amendments for auto dealerships passed (5-0) on second reading; third reading next week.
  • Terminal rooftop replacement project approved (5-0).
  • Lease amendment with Western Iowa Tech approved (5-0).
  • Council discussed upcoming parking changes on Outer Drive near North Middle School (no-parking zone) and praised compliance. Also noted construction updates and a successful cultural event (Mexico en el Corazón).
  • Meeting adjourned.

Meeting Transcript

Scott Waters? Here. More. Here. We stand for a moment of silent error, followed by the pledge of the United States of America. Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Jack, you want here? You want to come forward and tell us a little bit about yourself and why you want to serve. Yep. Well, you guys know I'm Jack Walsh. Um, new to Sioux Sioux City, Iowa. I'd like to serve because I'm working with um plan architecture with a passion for historic preservation, especially in the architectural world. Um I'm from South Dakota, Pierce, South Dakota, but my family, grandparents, parents were raised in Sioux City, so I've been here a number of times before choosing to live here currently. Who was your grandparents? Uh Michael Walsh. Okay. He was a Woodbury County judge, and then Tim Bloom was uh officer here in town. And then good judge, I might add. Sweet. Well, city attorney too. City attorney too. City attorney. I get to see him at 5 30 tonight. We're going to Mordows. You'd have to be old like Dan and I to remember that. Yeah. Yeah, tell them hi for us. We'll do. And thanks for uh making the application because you're you're new to the community and you're showing that interest. I think you can add a lot to the historic preservation committee or commission. So thank you. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks, ma'am. All right, thank you. We'll go to the consent agenda next, which is items three through 13D. You can consider them to pass unanimously unless a separate roll call vote is requested by a council member. If you want to speak on an agenda item, please come up as I read that number. If you want to speak on an item not on the agenda, please come up under citizen concerns and remember to always state your name. I'll move the consent agenda. Second. Three is a reading of the August 18th City Council minutes. Four is a motion appointing Don Kirkpatrick to the Human Rights Commission. Five is a resolution temporary closing a section of Fourth Street on October 18th for the art affair. Six is a resolution awarding a purchase order to Johnson Lancaster and Associates for one gas fryer. Seven are actions relating to grants. A is a resolution approving a grant agreement with IDOT for airport improvements program funding through the state airport development program for the South Ramp Reconstruction Project. B is a resolution approving a grant agreement with IDOT for the commercial service vertical infrastructure funding through the state airport development program for final phases of the terminal rope replacement boilers and doors. A is a resolution approving a merchant of record services agreement with Masabi and the CAD AVL and Mobile Fair Payment System for Transit. A or B is a resolution awarding a consulting services agreement to municipal H2O for reviewing and updating the risk and resilience assessment plan and emergency response plan.

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