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Sioux City Council Meeting Summary: December 1, 2025

Council MeetingsMonday, December 1, 2025
BodySioux City, Iowa
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DateMonday, December 1, 2025
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0:15

Scott here waters here more here.

0:19

Please stand for a moment of silence for her followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.

0:29

The United States of America.

0:31

And to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

0:44

Interviews for boards and commissions, Art Center Board of Trustees, Jamie Bell.

0:49

Jamie, come on up and tell us a little bit about yourself and why you want to continue to serve.

0:59

Good afternoon, Jamie Bell.

1:01

I'm looking to continue serving on the Board of Trustees for the Art Center because I believe deeply in the power of art to connect, educate, and invigorate our community.

1:11

Serving a second term would continue to help the Art Center grow its influence and creativity.

1:15

Education, community engagement, and Sioux land.

1:18

My experience teaching and implementing marketing strategies, print and digital, um, will help me enhance and support the director's efforts in enhancing the art center's online presence, increasing attendance, and engaging broader demographics.

1:35

Wow, that's impressive.

1:37

I like it.

1:38

Yeah.

1:42

Appreciate all your efforts for much.

1:44

How much do you enjoy what you do?

1:46

That's a good question.

1:48

I've been in marketing, graphic design, that world, media for the last 25 years.

1:54

Oh wow.

1:55

And I've recently moved to teaching.

1:57

I teach at Western Iowa Tech now.

1:59

So I'm teaching that next generation to respect the past and embrace the new.

2:04

Yes.

2:04

That's and that's what's so important to me, especially is you know, when people talk about history and anything to do with the past, I'm like, I love it, but I love the new.

2:15

Yeah.

2:15

So I I don't want to ever forget tradition, but I have to have an open mind and open, you know, even your heart, you can love something, but you can love something new.

2:25

So I really appreciate that.

2:27

Awesome.

2:29

Okay.

2:29

Thanks.

2:30

Thank you.

2:32

Todd Evans building an housing code board.

2:41

Tell us a little bit about why you want to serve.

2:44

That's a tough act to follow there.

2:46

Did you run a speech paper or nothing?

2:49

So my name's Todd Evans.

2:52

I've lived here in uh Sioux City for my whole life.

2:55

I'm 56 years old.

2:57

I have wife, three kids, two grandchildren, grandsons, and one on the way.

3:03

So I've been doing uh HVAC trade for almost 30 years now.

3:11

I did have a uh short duty here with the city as a mechanical inspector for probably about a year and a half.

3:19

Just wasn't my cup of tea.

3:22

I mean it's I like to be involved in the other side of the game.

3:27

So how long are you been with interstate?

3:30

Uh interstate slash Thompson.

3:34

Almost 30 years.

3:35

There we go.

3:35

Yeah.

3:37

Great.

3:39

They do a good job, so appreciate your application.

3:42

Thanks.

3:42

Appreciate it.

3:43

Thank you for applying.

3:46

Okay, we'll go to the consent agenda items three through 11e.

3:50

They can that is the consent agenda for today.

3:52

You can consider the item passed unanimously unless a separate roll call vote is requested by a council member.

3:59

You want to speak on an item, please come up as I read that.

4:01

If you want to speak on an item not on the agenda, please come up under citizen concerns.

4:06

Always remember to state your name for the record.

4:09

I'll move the consent agenda.

4:10

Second.

4:11

Three is a reading of the November 24 City Council minutes.

4:16

Four is a resolution adopting plans inspect for the 8th Street Reconstruction Project.

4:22

Five is a resolution amending the authorized personnel complement and the position classification manual by adding library administrative assistant.

4:32

Yeah, I was gonna go ahead.

5:05

So go ahead.

5:05

Well, that was our plan.

5:07

This is just kind of a fallback in case that doesn't go because Angie's retiring in December, so we're gonna be almost three months without somebody.

5:15

Well, two months without somebody.

5:17

So then if that doesn't go through, then we have this approved and we can move forward with the assistant job.

5:24

Yeah.

5:26

So my my concern when when Helen provided us with some information about where we stand in terms of our staffing for libraries.

5:35

We're we're ninth in Iowa before this change, before these positions that we're essentially losing.

5:43

We're ninth in the state for the number of full-time.

5:47

Um the ninth largest city in Iowa is Ames.

5:51

And before this change, Ames employs 38.5 full-time employees for their one brick and mortar library.

6:00

Before this change, we have 32 full-time employees for our three libraries.

6:09

Uh I'm I'm concerned that if we continue to pair away at staff, that we're not gonna have anybody to support the infrastructure that we have in place.

6:16

We're not gonna have people to staff these libraries.

6:19

And these positions that we're losing, and we know that there's probably gonna be one more unless it's been publicly announced.

6:25

We're we're losing a lot of tenure, and that is very, very hard to replace.

6:31

Um that that is one of the reasons why I I mean I support this if they're gonna see some short-term benefit from it, but I would just caution the future council that has to make that decision against continuing to pair away at a staff that's already pretty bare bones call for the vote.

6:53

Shayner, aye.

6:55

Scott?

6:56

Aye Waters?

6:58

Aye.

6:59

More?

6:59

Aye.

7:00

Okay.

7:01

Aye.

7:04

Uh six is resolution authorizing payment to TR Harris Construction for the Les Hills Scenic Trail Project.

7:11

Seven are actions relating to boards and commissions and committees.

7:15

A is a motion appointing Mike Cougars to the effective fiscal and public policy committee.

7:21

B is a motion appointing Teresa Weaver to the Gillian Kosovo Sister City Committee.

7:26

7C through 7F are motions approving annual reports for the Gillian Kosovo Sister City Committee, the Airport Board of Trustees, the Events and Tourism Advisory Board, and the Parking and Skywalk System Board of Trustees.

7:40

Eight are actions relating to agreements and contracts.

7:43

A is a resolution approving a post-construction stormwater management plan.

7:48

Maintenance agreement and easement with DC Realty for the detention basin and easement at 3240 31st Street.

7:58

B is a resolution approving an amendment to the consulting services agreement with DGR Engineering for the South Mulberry Street Improvement Project.

8:07

C is a resolution of granting a permit to IMON communications to maintain underground fiber adjacent to 3601 Country Club Boulevard.

8:16

I need to abstain on that item.

8:18

Conflict of interest.

8:21

D is a resolution granting a permit to IMON Communications to maintain underground fiber adjacent to 4201 Stone Avenue and 4212 Gordon Drive.

8:31

Nine is purchasing A as a resolution authorizing the purchase of Comb Park General Liability Insurance from Arthur J.

8:38

Gallagher Risk Management Services.

8:40

B is a resolution authorizing the purchase of ambulance property and liability insurance for Mills Shellhammer Pitts and Associates.

8:53

Anyone to be heard on any of those items who vote electronically 5012's hearing and resolution approving a dark fiber master lease agreement with IMON communications to maintain fiber optic cables in exchange for the city's use of fiber.

9:23

I'll move that.

9:24

Second.

9:25

Public hearings now open.

9:26

Anyone to be heard?

9:28

Seeing none, the hearing is closed.

9:42

Passes 5013 is a hearing resolution adopting the amended and restated urban revitalization area plan.

9:49

I'll move that.

9:50

Second.

9:51

Public hearings now open.

9:52

Anyone to be heard?

9:57

I don't know what you're going to say on the next one, but I'll come up here for this one.

10:01

My name's Jim Jung.

10:03

Can you move that mic a little bit?

10:04

Thank you.

10:05

My name's Jim Jung, G-U-N-G.

10:08

Um, I'm chair of the property view board for Sioux City.

10:12

I'm not in that role, but I've learned a lot in six years that I've been on that.

10:17

And when I came to Sioux City, I used this process.

10:21

I turned my receipts in.

10:22

It was Abbey Gaffey at that point.

10:24

I got forgiveness for 10 years on property taxes.

10:27

Okay.

10:27

Was that on improvements that you made?

10:29

Not on the should the receipts down, you got blessed and you got it.

10:33

Okay.

10:34

Um so it's a good program.

10:36

I'm not saying it isn't.

10:37

Um the original purpose in this change that when council they changed the direction of it.

10:45

It was for the inner city.

10:47

And then it turned into this whole citywide thing.

10:51

Now it's turned into something that we've got a millionaires, 1.5 million dollars gets forgiven, and $700,000 gets for the given.

11:00

Um I've had trouble with that, and somebody even came in front of our board.

11:06

They were getting $300,000 forgiveness, but they still complained, and I really had trouble with that.

11:12

Um I understand why it's here, it's just like the tips are for economic development.

11:16

This is kind of that thing for houses.

11:18

Um by the way, there's 28,000 houses if you wonder how many there's I remember numbers.

11:24

Um I think number one that it shouldn't be for multiple family units.

11:30

They get rent, it's kind of double dipping, and I think you should think about capping it, and I'll just suggest 300,000 dollars.

11:36

So I don't know what you were gonna have at this meeting, but I those are my suggestions personally.

11:41

It's not the board.

11:42

We didn't talk about it or vote on it.

11:44

Okay.

11:46

Any questions?

11:47

That'd be under 13 or 14.

11:49

Um, the first one under 13 is the amendment to the actual plan itself and the urban revite plan.

11:55

And if that is approved, then the council would proceed forward to the changes to the ordinance.

12:02

You're speaking 13 and 14, like in general.

12:05

Yeah.

12:06

So I'm hoping you all were gonna discuss something about capping it or weighing it somehow.

12:13

And indeed, if you look at the inner city, it's low on the totem pole of getting the monies.

12:17

Of course, it's out toward development.

12:19

But I think 1.5 million dollars forgiveness for a millionaire and 700,000 is too much.

12:25

It's gone wacky, and then when you have it for multiple family units, that's why I'm here.

12:30

Thank you.

12:31

Chris, could you speak a little bit on your experience with this?

12:34

Maybe what advice are you've seen over the years that you would have?

12:40

Chris Magin Planning Division Manager.

12:43

We have really seen throughout the city, uh, the more suburban and the more uh interior development, uh urban areas of town that this is being utilized.

12:53

Uh so it is helping both new development and revitalization, uh rehab of existing housing.

13:00

The program isn't nearly as effective as it used to be because the school district taxes have been removed, so that's about 40 percent of the effectiveness of this tool, so a lot of new development.

13:11

You're probably gonna be seeing other methods be used, whether that's TIFF or other different types of incentives, but we do feel that this is still a good tool to be utilized citywide.

13:23

And at this point, we're not actually for any changes to the different types of plans, the schedules, just asking for a five-year extension.

13:30

And I guess to directly address what Mr.

13:34

Jung is is proposing.

13:36

I mean, what are your thoughts on the cap of that or any other modifications?

13:45

That is something that we looked at.

13:46

It's not something that as staff we wanted to propose.

13:49

We wanted to keep it the same as the plan currently is.

13:53

But it is something that if that's council direction, we can look at because this does expire uh December 31st, but we would be able to come back with another amendment to break out different parts of towns if that is what uh council wants to give us that direction.

14:11

So I would urge you to think this over.

14:13

Jim, you got to come to the mic, though.

14:16

The the hearing and resolution, the first item 13 would just be one vote to amend the plan.

14:22

And if it is amended, then the ordinance could be up to three readings unless the council waived it and did it in one step.

14:28

I just think there needs to be some thought on it.

14:30

Things have changed.

14:32

Right.

14:33

Um I really push that.

14:35

Chris, we don't we don't have the numbers of what that impact would be with the three hundred thousand dollar cap on multifamily residential units.

14:45

At a staff level, I do not.

14:46

I don't know if we do have it's something that we could get.

14:49

You have some numbers to use as examples, Dave.

14:51

Who does who does?

14:52

Tyler Erickson.

14:53

I asked him to pull some numbers and show up today just to give us some simple examples of how this is affecting us, good, bad overall.

15:00

Just to give us some examples of how this is affecting us good, bad overall.

15:04

Tyler Erickson, CD Assessor's Office.

15:07

I don't have a number per se, if it was to be capped at 300,000.

15:13

No.

15:14

What I can say is, you know, it does benefit everybody when new houses are built.

15:22

Because it's only 80% exempt, you're still adding taxable value to the you know, to the role, and you're claiming that.

15:30

So that is getting broken out.

15:31

It is a good program in that sense.

15:35

I do not have though, if you were to remove, you know, multi-res properties are big projects.

15:42

So there's a lot of dollars that are being exempt from those.

15:46

Um something I could look into and see what currently is out there.

15:52

I believe right now there's about six or seven properties that have for multi-res have um urban revites on them.

16:02

But there are quite a few over 300,000.

16:05

It's pretty hard to build a house in a lot of neighborhoods right now for under 300,000.

16:10

I know some of the programs for lower income housing, they're 250, 280, up to 300.

16:18

So that's really your bare minimum right now.

16:21

But um what I was asked to kind of present is if you know the city needs a certain amount of money to run, that's where the tax property tax dollars are going.

16:33

Somebody decides to build a house, that's not gonna affect that city number that they need.

16:39

But what it is gonna do is add tax dollars to the rule.

16:42

So it's gonna lessen each person's burden.

16:45

So if you had you know, a housing development of 20 houses and each one was 500,000, the first year they are, they're gonna get 400,000 abatement, but they're all gonna pay taxes on 100,000.

16:56

Well, over 20 houses, that's 2 million dollars that you're adding to the tax base.

17:02

So it's not free.

17:04

It is an incentive to build in the city, but it is definitely not free.

17:09

By year nine and 10, each house is gonna be paying 400,000 plus whatever the market growth is in that time.

17:17

So they are gonna pay close $8 million in uh valuation for taxation.

17:25

So it is a good incentive program, like I said.

17:27

I just don't have the numbers based off the 300 cap.

17:31

So you you think Tyler, that the the incentive would be there for multi-family residential if it didn't have a cap, or is it or did they um I don't know that closely?

17:42

I don't really have the answer if it would still be what percentage they take that into consideration.

17:48

Um in my professional role, I'm not gonna answer uh on my personal opinion there.

17:56

Professional role, if it gets you to build more apartments, that's great.

18:01

It's gonna add to the tax dollars.

18:04

How long is it are you gonna wait to gain that money back?

18:07

I don't know.

18:08

That's and Chris, this is probably a question for you, just remind me and I apologize.

18:15

Um this is for new build as well as renovation, right?

18:19

I mean, obviously, just renovating working on properties, because I guess Jim, to the point you to the two points that you raise, and Tyler, I appreciate your figures and you being here to share that.

18:32

Um I remember back to a couple meetings ago when Mr.

18:37

Mr.

18:37

Koskovich um was preaching to me about ROI, and I mean I think that that's your point is you're attempting to incentivize, and even if you're not capturing some or all of the tax revenue, at least you're capturing some in those initial years.

18:56

And I understand that point.

18:58

I do I do understand where you're coming from, that you're not necessarily just wanting to incentivize you know, large-scale homes or people of wealth or ability to have those homes, but at the end of the day, we are lucky to have some of those developments and want to keep them here in our community as well, um, and not have them just go across the river, um, which I think that we should be incentivizing.

19:22

The other thing that I would say, I guess addressing um your point with multifamily gym is you know, I think back to when my mom um was actually down here during COVID and she worked on the census, um, was going around to all of these different properties and talking with homeowners or renters, and she was pretty taken aback um by the conditions of some of these properties, and it's really troubling, you know, the living circumstances that some people have, and I think that oftentimes that was at least in her experience, um, people that are renting in those multifamily units or those those homes that were broken up in rentals, and so from my perspective, any incentive that we can give those individuals to fix up or to invest in their property and make it better, make it more inhabitable, I think is a good thing to incentivize as best we can.

20:00

And I think that oftentimes that was at least in her experience, um, people that are renting in those multifamily units or those those homes that were broken up in rentals, and so from my perspective, any incentive that we can give those individuals to fix up or to invest in their property and make it better, make it more inhabitable, I think is a good thing to incentivize as best we can.

20:25

I do understand what you're saying though from an apartment standpoint or some of the other areas, but I think sometimes it's used for good as well.

20:32

So I guess that's just my response directly to your thoughts.

20:36

I'm not saying that it's not good.

20:38

Okay, I just think it's gotten out of control.

20:40

$700,000 and 1.5 million.

20:43

I mean, geez, you know, that's just where I'm coming.

20:46

It's a great program.

20:47

I mean, I used it.

20:48

I wish more people to inner city needs some help.

20:51

Yeah.

20:52

I I just wanted to add um the program's been around a long time.

20:56

It's been done made a lot of benefits to Sioux City for a really long time.

21:00

But I think we I I would be reluctant to move away from it completely.

21:05

Obviously, the change in the school levy, part of it is a big difference.

21:09

Um, and the other thing I wanted to add is you I think you all know we're looking at housing major housing projects with using TIFF in the future, which a lot of communities are moving to in Iowa, and in those cases with it won't apply.

21:23

So it can't apply.

21:24

You have you got to say your name to Marty.

21:28

Marty.

21:29

Chris.

21:30

You gotta say your name that you were.

21:31

Oh, I'm sorry.

21:32

Martin Doherty, economic and community development director.

21:38

Regarding agenda item 13.

21:40

I I would I would want to extend it five years to 2030.

21:44

And that's the main part of the amendment, correct?

21:47

Correct.

21:48

No other major change in other than the legal description to extend it to five years.

21:52

Correct.

21:53

And removing the school district portion because that changed effective July 1 of 24, cleaning up that language, bringing in the newly annexed territory into the city, just making some housekeeping changes in addition to the extension of five years.

22:07

Okay.

22:08

Thank you.

22:09

Thank you, Tyler.

22:10

Yeah, thank you all.

22:28

Passes 5014 and ordinance designating the urban rebite areas amended by the amended restated Sioux City Urban Renewal Area Plan.

22:36

I'll move first reading.

22:38

Second passes by zero.

22:59

I'd I'd like to not do the other readings.

23:02

We'll still get it done by December 31st.

23:04

That gives people an opportunity to talk.

23:07

15 is an urban and hearing and resolution consenting to the transfer of property in the Donner Park Urban Renewal Area to Rick's got Jennifer Lowell, Shane Scott, and authorizing a quick claim deed for property at 1153, 235th Street.

23:21

I'll move that.

23:22

Second.

23:22

Public hearings now open.

23:23

Anyone to be heard?

23:26

Seeing none, the hearing is closed.

23:49

Did item 14 the first reading that was at a 50 vote?

23:54

Yes.

23:54

Thank you.

23:56

16 resolution approving and accepting a quick claim deed from Rick Scott, Jennifer Lowell, and Shane Scott consideration, mutual benefits, property 1151, 235th Street.

24:07

1157, 235th Street, 2298 Allison Avenue, and 2298 and a half Allison Avenue.

24:14

I'll move that.

24:15

Second passes 5017's resolution approving a contribution to the Sioux Land Initiative for fiscal year 2026, deferred from November 17th and 24th, 2025.

24:40

I'll move that.

24:42

Second.

24:43

Anyone to be heard?

24:48

I'll speak.

25:00

It was a very busy week for me, so I was I was really appreciative that he was able to shuffle some things around and meet with me.

25:04

We had a really good talk about some of the initiatives that TSI has taken on to help grow Sioux City.

25:12

And a couple of the things that we discussed was really where they step in, and we talked about kind of our contribution as a is a piece of of their whole operating budget.

25:28

And it is a it is a very small contribution that we make.

25:31

And I'm I'm not discrediting the amount of money that we give them.

25:36

But one thing that I will say is the laundry list of things that that uh councilman Moore read off last week, were all initiatives that Sioux City benefits from, whether it be tax base, whether it be jobs, what are whether it be um development that we otherwise would not have.

25:59

And currently TSI is doing a lot of the economic development for Sioux City when it comes to a lot of these items.

26:07

And I and I don't want to discount our economic development team because they work tirelessly not just to market Sioux City, uh, but to really help find good fits and and keep everybody at the table.

26:22

And our economic team, our economic development team does a great job with that.

26:26

But the fact of the matter is if I look at the size of Sioux City and I look at the size of our economic development team, and I know Marty wouldn't say this, but I don't feel like we have enough people.

26:38

We don't have enough staff in economic development, and we couldn't buy the impact that we get from TSI with 60,000.

26:48

We couldn't afford half another person on the staff for that.

26:52

Um I was appreciative that uh that he was able to go over a lot of the same information that he went over with uh Mr.

27:02

Moore with.

27:03

Um I was appreciative that that he acknowledged that having a good working relationship with the city um is is paramount in the future of their organization because I I think that truly is needed.

27:20

They need to be at the table.

27:21

And um I I just I I think that the bang that we get for this buck cannot be matched until we can afford to add some serious staff to economic development.

27:36

And the the growth that we've seen in Sioux City and the sustainability that we've seen coming from initiatives that TSI has taken on just can't be matched right now.

27:50

So that's all I have to say.

27:57

Well, I guess what I would say, Matthew, is I'm glad that you were able to have a meeting and talk through some of those things.

28:07

I wasn't available early on.

28:11

I I would have probably met on Wednesday.

28:13

I didn't hear from anyone from TSI or the chamber or anyone if there was an opportunity for a meeting.

28:21

I thought asking for it in a council meeting would warrant you know, asking for it in general, um, uh for someone to be able to reach out and share that information.

28:32

Um I know I had spoke with Dan a little bit about setting up a meeting, and and it didn't seem like there was any interest to have that set up because of their frustration uh with some of the things that were said at the last meeting, and so I guess my worry, my concern is that in a lot of ways, we're setting a precedent that if you're an organization and we believe you provide value, um, you don't have to be transparent with us to talk about where these dollars are going or what they're going towards.

29:14

And at the very least, you don't even need to come before the council to ask for those dollars.

29:21

And that's probably what worries me the most is I find it very troubling that you have an organization that is a very valued partner to the city in this community, and you have full-time staff that report to them.

29:39

You have a full board of directors, and the director or the the chair of this organization is willing to meet behind closed doors with two of the five council members, but not have himself or any staff member show up before the city council to discuss the partnership, their value, or what these dollars are going towards.

30:07

And I find that troubling.

30:08

And I I think the optics of it, I think the way that that puts us in a position as a city to warrant that and allow that is troubling.

30:26

That the partnership between TSI and the city has produced.

30:31

I think that are there ways that we could work better together and collaborate more about who is working on what and how we can be most effective?

30:41

Yes.

30:43

But I do think that there has been a long list of successes of examples that you can point to to say, yes, we were able to accomplish this, and it wouldn't have been possible without that partnership.

30:56

But the worry that I have is when you give an organization a pass and say, because to my knowledge, there were three council members at least that said we would like to see a budget.

31:08

We would like to see a budget of okay, the money coming in, what is it being spent on, and how could we, you know, better support the organization?

31:18

Is it personnel?

31:19

Is it, you know, are they attending fair like trade shows or any other opportunities to solicit businesses?

31:28

And even with three council members asking for that, no one was able to produce any documentation or willing to produce documentation, and that lack of transparency I find deeply troubling.

31:45

And to me, it raises more questions and more suspicions.

31:50

Um is truly unfortunate because I don't think that's the intention.

31:55

I don't think I don't think that any of these the directors on TSI, the board, or the chamber board, like the mayor had said in the last meeting.

32:06

I think they're good people.

32:08

They're people that I respect a great deal.

32:12

But I feel that respect should be mutual.

32:17

And if we are going to want to collaborate and be partners, we should both want to work with each other and have open dialogue.

32:28

And if there are questions being asked or clarification needed, I don't understand why that wouldn't be provided.

32:38

And furthermore, then, like I brought up in the last meeting, and like Mr.

32:42

Burroughs had brought up, if we aren't able or allowed to even see a budget, and the only budget we do see is the executive salaries where the president of the organization, Chris McGowan is making more than any employee at City Hall.

33:05

That's troubling.

33:08

And so I'm I don't understand why we couldn't at least get some of those answers or clarification.

33:15

Um I'm not opposed to supporting them.

33:18

I want to support them.

33:22

But morally, I feel like this is setting a precedent that we can't walk back.

33:27

And I know that there are other organizations that come before this council to give us regular updates regarding the work that they're doing.

33:36

We ask for their budgets and they produce them.

33:40

We look them over to make sure that they are being good stewards of taxpayer dollars or actually not even taxpayer dollars.

33:47

In some cases, it's hotel motel tax, in some cases it's SMID money.

33:52

That's not even directly from us.

33:57

And I don't know why we would ask that of those organizations if we're not going to hold other organizations accountable and just say, well, you have done good work, so never mind.

34:08

We think it's worth it, and we won't we won't require that of you.

34:13

I just I think that that's that's not how I would want to run a business.

34:21

I think if any of those and if any of those investors or businesses on the TSI board were being asked to invest in a company or invest in an organization that was going to benefit their business, they would want to make sure that that business, that entity was being good stewards of their dollars.

34:38

I don't think that's unfair.

34:41

I don't think I'm being unclear or outrageous.

34:45

If anything, I would have loved a simple conversation to discuss where are those dollars being utilized.

34:53

I thought previously they had gone towards Mr.

34:55

Newton's position, then that was eliminated, but the the amount we were still giving was the same.

35:02

I just don't know if it's a lack of respect for me as a council member.

35:07

Maybe it's because I'm a lame duck and hey, I'm on my way out.

35:11

At least you can work with the next council, that's fine.

35:15

But I don't think the concerns that I'm raising are unwarranted or unjust or out of bounds of what should be asked and should be expected of an organization.

35:28

Um I forget if I read it in Dolly's article um in the recap or where I saw that, but you know, it was said that other city and other agencies and organizations donate to this, you know, other cities and municipalities.

35:42

And I believe what I read was, and I if I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit I'm wrong and correct it in the next meeting.

35:50

Was that the Woodbury County Board of Supervisors was asked to fund a portion of this budget, and they denied that request.

36:00

And there's just a lack of transparency that I find deeply troubling.

36:04

And so while I want to continue this relationship, I want to continue this partnership because I think it's vital to the future of economic development in this community.

36:14

I this doesn't feel like a partnership when you have a council member asking simple questions, and you can't even have a representative of the organization look the members of the council in the eyes and expect their support.

36:30

I can't do that.

36:34

So that's where I'm at.

36:35

I appreciate that you had that opportunity.

36:43

Well, I just will throw it out here.

36:45

Um Mr.

36:47

Burroughs thinks I have a conflict of interest.

36:49

I'm not on the TSI board.

36:51

Obviously, if citizens believe a council member has a co conflict of interest, there are remedies for that, and we might find out if I do have a conflict of interest.

37:02

I've asked the city attorney if she thinks I have that.

37:05

I've got to rely upon her opinion, and she doesn't feel I do because they're separate and distinct boards.

37:12

Second of all, I personally write checks to the Sioux Land Initiative.

37:19

Uh I don't think that disqualifies me.

37:22

So I'm gonna vote today.

37:26

Abstaining again.

37:31

We still gotta push the button for clarification, Councilwoman Shaner for a conflict of interest.

37:38

Okay, thank you.

37:44

It passes three one one.

37:47

Citizen concerns, are there any citizens to be heard?

37:53

We'll go to Matthew.

37:55

Uh nothing for this week.

37:57

Julie.

37:59

Um, I really don't have much.

38:01

We had a great lighted parade.

38:04

Um I was on the sidelines, the mayor was in the trolley.

38:08

Uh it was it was Matthew.

38:10

Oh, and Matthew was in the trolley.

38:12

It was, I believe, a record 76 entries.

38:16

So it was great.

38:17

The kids had a great time.

38:18

I mean, there were just I I can't even imagine how many people were there.

38:22

Gotta be several thousand.

38:24

It was unbelievable is right.

38:26

So great community event.

38:28

I thank downtown partners in I BEW, I can never say that, for sponsoring it, all the sponsors, all the entrants.

38:36

It was great.

38:37

Um, I was lucky enough to be one of the judges, so that's great too.

38:42

Um, I want to thank staff for their good job on snow removal and preparation of the snow coming.

38:48

It was very well done.

38:49

I have people that I know living in different parts of the city, and they said great job.

38:55

Um, and number three about the urban revitalization renewal.

39:00

It gave me an idea why we were sitting here about possibly sending a blanketed letter out to existing homeowners, um, landlords, to remind them that if they do the correct percentage of improvements to their property, that they too qualify for abatement of that improvement.

39:23

So I think we'd like to get her letter together and get that sent out just to remind people, and maybe we can get a few things cleaned up and some of these rentals in a little bit better condition.

39:33

That's all I have.

39:34

Alex.

39:36

Yeah, just a couple things.

39:38

Um, first and foremost, I would echo Julie's comments about snow removal and thanking uh Patrick and his staff.

39:46

I think that they work incredible hours during these difficult times and put themselves in harm's way, similar to our emergency response personnel.

40:00

So I want to publicly acknowledge them and thank them for their dedication to trying to keep our citizens safe.

40:06

I will say that I understand some of the frustration of when you're tired from scooping your driveway, your sidewalk, what have you, and a plow might go by and trying to clear the street and some is kicked off into the driveway or into the sidewalk.

40:22

I understand.

40:23

You know, these things happen, and our crews do the best they can to avoid those situations.

40:29

Um it's not intentional.

40:31

Um we've looked into additional attachments, everything to be able to try to alleviate some of those things in most cases, they're cost prohibitive.

40:40

Um, or even the ability to get and run those things is pretty challenging.

40:44

And so, but I think that our staff is always looking for the best ways and bre best practices to be able to alleviate some of those concerns and frustrations.

40:55

Um, but at the end of the day, they're trying to get to as many streets as they can in a timely fashion to be able to allow people to travel safely on the roadways, and I appreciate that dedication um and willingness to continue to try to improve.

41:10

Secondly, I just wanted to say NAIA kicks off.

41:14

Uh, we got the volleyball tournament uh coming up this week, and so that's pretty exciting.

41:19

And being able to host this event is is definitely something that's not lost on me.

41:25

I think it's uh a pretty amazing honor uh to be able to continue to host this tournament and welcome all these people to our community.

41:33

I know some of them come from a long ways away where they have not seen snow maybe in their lifetime, or maybe only during this time, and so I think it's pretty um fun to see their amazement with not only that, but also playing on this stage.

41:47

I would wish all the teams the best of luck.

41:50

Um, and just encourage any community members, anyone listening to this broadcast to please get out and support those athletes.

41:59

They've worked their entire high school and in through that and through their collegiate career to get where they are today to be here at the national tournament.

42:09

So getting out and supporting them, cheering them on, um, or just watching some great volleyball action is always a good time.

42:15

So check out the schedule online.

42:19

There are many places where it's posted.

42:21

And if you have any restaurants, make sure to advertise to them as well and let them know why they should be maybe supporting your restaurant or or coffee shop or what have you, or shopping while they're while they're in Sioux City.

42:33

So that's all I have, sir.

42:36

Okay.

42:37

A couple things I concur in the Patrick and the team for doing the snow removal.

42:42

Great job.

42:42

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

42:44

First one's always a rough one, and it went smoothly, and I really appreciate that.

42:49

I also on the NEIA, I want to thank the media, the news media, the TV stations, radio, and uh the Sioux City Journal for the great uh marketing they've done for us for that tournament coming up, and uh the articles and the reports have just been outstanding.

43:05

So thank you for that.

43:06

That's uh that's an excellent way that the mayor and the council can get the word out, and uh we appreciate your good work there as well.

43:14

That's all I have, Mayor.

43:16

I already sent Patrick and Mike a note about what a great job they did.

43:19

I only can imagine how much better it would have been if people would have adhered to the other side of parking over the weekend, and we have to do a better job of that.

43:29

This this was a major snowstorm for Sioux City.

43:32

We haven't had one like this in a while, so we do need to make a better effort to make sure that people understand you did a great job under the circumstances, so appreciate that.

43:43

The only thing I would say about that parade, it was a great parade, but as a grappa, drive riding that bus looking down and kids only from here to three feet away at the very most.

43:55

That was a very scary evening.

43:57

I I don't know why we don't put them back on the sidewalk, Mike.

44:01

There that's well, a couple of years when I owned Soho, somebody laid down a chalk line.

44:08

Well, it was as wide as uh stripe.

44:10

Well, we've got to do something different.

44:16

Yeah, they were there, the whole crowd was out in the Matthew will confirm that it was scary.

44:20

Yeah, it was I don't know who would have laid down the chalk line.

44:25

Well, they did as well.

44:28

But it's just a chalk line.

44:30

Anyway, just something I don't want anybody to ever get hurt in a parade.

44:33

And it was uh it was scary, especially little guys that I mean their parents are watching them, but they still they dart, and so oftentimes you'll have volunteers actually go along the park parade.

44:44

Yeah, but boy, they were so tight, man.

44:46

You couldn't believe it.

44:47

Oh, I know, and I'm sorry I had to work that night, but I uh I love parades, and I'm sorry I had to miss that one.

44:52

It's a great one.

44:53

And the electrical union people that just put that on and did amazing.

44:58

Move we adjourn.

45:00

Second.

45:01

O'Kane.

45:02

Aye.

45:02

Shanner.

45:03

Aye.

45:03

Scott.

45:04

Aye.

45:05

Waters.

45:06

Aye.

45:07

Four.

45:07

Aye.

45:08

Yeah, that was a scary deal.

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Summary of Proceedings

Sioux City Council Meeting Summary: December 1, 2025

The Sioux City City Council convened to conduct interviews for the Art Center Board of Trustees and the Housing Code Board, approve a unanimous Consent Agenda, and hold public hearings regarding the urban revitalization plan amendment and property transfers. A significant portion of the meeting was dedicated to deliberating the fiscal contribution to the Sioux City Land Initiative (TSI), marked by a debate between staff and council members concerning organizational transparency versus the economic value of the partnership. Following public comments on recent community events and winter operations, the council voted to adjourn.

Consent Calendar

  • Items Approved Unanimously:
    • Adoption of November 24, 2025, City Council minutes.
    • Resolution adopting plans for the 8th Street Reconstruction Project inspection.
    • Resolution amending personnel classification to add a Library Administrative Assistant (introduced as a contingency for a retiring staff member; Councilor Waters expressed caution regarding long-term library staffing levels while acknowledging the motion).
    • Resolution authorizing payment to TR Harris Construction for the Les Hills Scenic Trail Project.
    • Appointments: Mike Cougars to the Fiscal and Public Policy Committee; Teresa Weaver to the Gillian Kosovo Sister City Committee.
    • Approval of annual reports for the Sister City Committee, Airport Board, Events and Tourism Advisory Board, and Parking and Skywalk System Board.
    • Agreement approvals: Stormwater management plan with DC Realty; Amendment to consulting services with DGR Engineering for South Mulberry Street.
    • Permit grants: IMON Communications for underground fiber at Country Club Boulevard (Councilor Waters abstained due to conflict of interest) and at Stone Avenue/Gordon Drive.
    • Insurance purchases: Comb Park General Liability and Ambulance property/liability.
    • Resolution 5012: Approval of a dark fiber master lease agreement with IMON Communications.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Jim Jung (Chair, Property View Board): Expressed concern that Urban Revite tax forgiveness has become excessive, noting individual cases of $1.5 million and $700,000 forgiven. Stated the program should not apply to multiple-family units to prevent "double dipping" and suggested a cap of $300,000. Urged the council to consider capping amounts and re-evaluating the program's focus on the inner city versus the suburbs.
  • Matthew (Council Member): Supported the TSI contribution, arguing the organization provides a high return on investment that the city's lean economic development staff cannot match. However, raised concerns about the lack of transparency, noting that three council members requested to see the organization's budget without success. Expressed that the relationship felt unbalanced because TSI representatives met privately with two council members rather than addressing the council openly. Asserted that the high salary of the TSI president compared to city employees is troubling and set a precedent where valuable partners are exempt from standard budgetary accountability.
  • Chris Magin (Planning Division Manager): Defended the Urban Revite program, stating it helps both new development and rehabilitation citywide. Stated that while staff did not propose a cap, they would consider council direction to modify the plan if requested, noting the program loses 40% effectiveness due to the removal of school district taxes.
  • Tyler Erickson (City Assessor's Office): Explained that the Urban Revite program is not "free," as properties still contribute 20% of their value to the tax roll, which lessens the burden on other taxpayers. Stated he did not have specific data on the impact of a $300,000 cap but noted that nearly all multi-residential projects in the program exceed $300,000.
  • Martin Doherty (Economic and Community Development Director): Stated the main amendment was to extend the Urban Revite plan by five years to 2030, removing outdated school district language and incorporating annexed areas, with no other major changes proposed.
  • Julie (Council Member): Thanked downtown partners for the successful lighted parade (76 entries) and praised staff for effective snow removal. Proposed sending a blanket letter to landlords and homeowners reminding them they qualify for abatement on improvements.
  • Alex (Council Member): Publicly acknowledged the dedication of the public works team during the snowstorm, while noting the common frustration of snow being kicked into driveways by plows. Encouraged community support for the upcoming NAIA Volleyball Tournament.

Discussion Items

  • Urban Revite Plan (Resolution 5013 & Ordinance): The council discussed amending the urban revitalization plan to extend it by five years. Councilor Jung advocated for a $300,000 cap on multi-family units to ensure funds are directed toward owner-occupied inner-city homes. Councilor Scott defended the program's utility for improving living conditions in rentals and preventing development from moving across the river, while noting the loss of school district tax support. The council agreed to proceed with the five-year extension.
  • TSI Fiscal Year 2026 Contribution: The council debated Resolution 5017 regarding the contribution to the Sioux City Land Initiative. While Councilor Matthew emphasized the organization's essential role in economic development, he强烈 opposed the lack of transparency and the precedent of not requiring a budget review from valued partners. Despite these concerns, the council moved forward, with one member abstaining and one voting against the lack of transparency.
  • Property Transfers: Discussion regarding the transfer of property in the Donner Park Urban Renewal Area to Rick Scott, Jennifer Lowell, and Shane Scott, and the approval of quick claim deeds for multiple properties.

Key Outcomes

  • Board Appointments: Jamie Bell was interviewed for the Art Center Board of Trustees; Todd Evans was interviewed for the Building and Housing Code Board.
  • Urban Revite Plan: Passed unanimously (5-0) to amend the plan and extend the area's designation by five years.
  • Property Transfer: Resolution 5015 (consenting to transfer) and Resolution 5016 (approving quick claim deed) passed unanimously (5-0).
  • TSI Contribution: Resolution 5017 (Sioux City Land Initiative FY 2026) passed with a vote of 3 in favor, 1 opposed, and 1 abstention. Councilor Waters abstained citing a potential conflict of interest concern.
  • Public Comment: No further action items were generated from citizen concerns regarding the parade or snow removal, though the council commended the efforts.
  • Adjournment: Meeting adjourned unanimously.

Meeting Transcript

Scott here waters here more here. Please stand for a moment of silence for her followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. The United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Interviews for boards and commissions, Art Center Board of Trustees, Jamie Bell. Jamie, come on up and tell us a little bit about yourself and why you want to continue to serve. Good afternoon, Jamie Bell. I'm looking to continue serving on the Board of Trustees for the Art Center because I believe deeply in the power of art to connect, educate, and invigorate our community. Serving a second term would continue to help the Art Center grow its influence and creativity. Education, community engagement, and Sioux land. My experience teaching and implementing marketing strategies, print and digital, um, will help me enhance and support the director's efforts in enhancing the art center's online presence, increasing attendance, and engaging broader demographics. Wow, that's impressive. I like it. Yeah. Appreciate all your efforts for much. How much do you enjoy what you do? That's a good question. I've been in marketing, graphic design, that world, media for the last 25 years. Oh wow. And I've recently moved to teaching. I teach at Western Iowa Tech now. So I'm teaching that next generation to respect the past and embrace the new. Yes. That's and that's what's so important to me, especially is you know, when people talk about history and anything to do with the past, I'm like, I love it, but I love the new. Yeah. So I I don't want to ever forget tradition, but I have to have an open mind and open, you know, even your heart, you can love something, but you can love something new. So I really appreciate that. Awesome. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Todd Evans building an housing code board. Tell us a little bit about why you want to serve. That's a tough act to follow there. Did you run a speech paper or nothing? So my name's Todd Evans. I've lived here in uh Sioux City for my whole life. I'm 56 years old. I have wife, three kids, two grandchildren, grandsons, and one on the way. So I've been doing uh HVAC trade for almost 30 years now. I did have a uh short duty here with the city as a mechanical inspector for probably about a year and a half. Just wasn't my cup of tea. I mean it's I like to be involved in the other side of the game. So how long are you been with interstate? Uh interstate slash Thompson. Almost 30 years. There we go. Yeah. Great. They do a good job, so appreciate your application.

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