That's the way we have Ernesteen.

Here.

Bertrand.

Here.

Raford.

Here.

Here.

Here, could we stand for a moment of silent prayer followed by the Pledge of Allegiance?

Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

And to the Republic for which one nation under liberty and justice for our proclamation that reads Whereas the month of March has been designated as National Problem Gambling Month, whereas problem gambling is a public health issue affecting millions of Americans of all ages, races, and ethnic backgrounds, and carries significant societal and economic costs for individuals, families, businesses, and communities.

Whereas problem gambling is treatable and treatment is effective in minimizing this harm to both individuals and society as a whole.

And numerous individuals, professionals, and organizations have dedicated their efforts to the education of the public about problem gambling and the availability and effectiveness of treatment.

Whereas Rosencrantz Jackson Center invite all residents of the City of Sioux City to participate in National Problem Gambling Awareness Month.

Now, therefore, I Robert E.

Scott, mayor of the City of Sioux City, Iowa, and behalf of the City Council to hereby proclaim March 26th as Problem Gambling Awareness Month in Sioux City, Iowa, and encourage all our citizens to support the National Council on Problem Gambling and Rosa Crantz Jackson Center in their efforts to have a count have the conversation with friends, family, patients, clients about gambling addiction.

I'd like to present this to you and say a few words if you would.

Thank you.

Good afternoon.

My name is Shannon Runger, and for the last two years I've been the compliance manager at Hard Rock Sioux City.

I want to thank you very much for this proclamation.

Every March, Hard Rock Sioux City takes several initiatives to bring awareness not only to our team members, but also to the community of the problems that the problems and issues that come from gambling addictions.

Thank you.

Oh my goodness.

We have a commendation today that reads, whereas on behalf of the city of Sioux City and the countless families whose holidays have been touched by your generosity, the city extends its deepest appreciation and heartfelt thanks for your extraordinary 44 years of service to Santa Claus.

Whereas for more than four decades, you've embodied the true spirit of the holiday season, bringing joy, wonder, and magic to generations of children and families throughout your warmth, kind through your warmth, kindness, and unwavering dedication.

Whereas your welcoming smile, gentle words, and consistent presence have made the holiday brighter and more meaningful for our community year after year, and for many children, you were their Santa.

My kids and my grandkids, thank you.

Where it is exemplary to note that you have selfishly offered your time and service in this role at no cost and during the most recent holiday season alone, you wore the Santa suit an extra extraordinary 22 times, and where few roles carry such a lasting and meaningful impact on the children of this community, and through your consistency and generosity over 44 years, your presence has become a cherished tradition and a living piece of Sioux City history.

Now, therefore, I Robert E.

Scott, mayor of the City of Sioux City, Iowa, on behalf of the City Council, do hereby commend Dick Lindbroom for the time he you have volunteered in the lasting legacy you leave through treasured memories and enduring spirit of the season.

I could present that to you and say a few words if you would.

Well, I never thought 44 years would be uh a magic number, but hopefully I'll have a few more for Ike to be able to mic me up, you know, for the lighted holiday parade.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll have an interview with uh active transportation and Catherine Pafel.

Hello, I'm Kathy Pappel.

Want to serve on another committee, huh?

I think I could assist, yes.

But your cards right.

You might be on every board and commission by the case.

I think I'm sure we're just a couple, yes.

Yeah.

I appreciate your interest.

There are vacancies.

I'm glad that you're interested in this, but I also appreciate your service on the other boards and commissions that you help with.

Thank you.

Oh, I think it'd be a good fit.

You're gonna stay on the other committee too, though, right?

Or you get I think we I think I think my my uh term is coming up, but I'd like to to continue if possible.

I think part of what we have to do today is actually approve because we have to waive the rules to allow you to do so.

But not until she actually makes the agenda.

Correct.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Today the consent agenda is item three through 128.

You consider these to pass unanimously unless a separate roll call votes asked for by a council member.

If you want to speak on any of these items, please come up as I read them.

If you want to speak on an item not on the agenda, please come up under citizen concerns.

I'll move the consent agenda.

Second.

Can I ask a question about this?

And I don't know if there's anybody to address this, and I'm not necessarily asking that we revise this, but I meant to ask last week, and we moved through it.

But on item 18D is a resolution amending a purchase order to Android separation of Arlington, Texas to increase the purchase order by an additional 34,98 dollars.

Is there anybody here on that item?

The question that I've got is this addition was as a result of the equipment was sent down.

They re-evaluated it after having bid the project.

Is that correct?

Uh, Vicky Baker, Assistant Public Works Director.

So they bid back on a general scope of what 22 or 12,000 uh repair would be.

Once we then ship it to them, they tear it apart, find out it's the additional that additional work.

So is it customary to have them as you described tear it apart and that then amend and ask for the additional were there other bids that might have been less than this $34,000?

Uh I'm not sure if any other bids came in, but Andritz is the manufacturer of the equipment.

Okay.

Okay, thank you.

I need to abstain, I was not here.

Four is a motion appointing Micah Henderson to the Yamanashi City Sis City Sister City Committee.

Five is a resolution accepting the state housing trust fund grant agreement between the Sioux City Housing Trust Fund and the Iowa Finance Authority.

Six is a resolution amending the authorized personnel compliment, the position classification manual, the salary schedule by approving an updated job description for landscape technician and reclassifying one labor crew leader position to landscape technician.

What does this do to the salary component?

Thanks, Kelly.

Kelly Bach Parks maintenance field.

Not field supervisor anymore and park superintendent.

That was a classification change.

But that do.

Even over I believe it's range 817, so it's just even over.

Very good.

Um, just looking at clarifying a few things.

Okay, great.

Thanks, Kelly.

Seven are actions relating to agreements and contracts.

A is a resolution approving a grade crossing signal installation agreement with BNSF in connection with the grade crossing service repair project at Pearl Street.

B is a resolution approving a consulting services agreement with DGR Engineering for the Pulaski Park Storm Water Pipe Replacement Project.

Gordon, why are why you tell me again why we can't use the 12 by 12 that we paid a million dollars for one other time when I was on the council that we've never figured out how to what why we did that?

That's the box culvert, right?

Yes.

Currently it is being used for a water line going in the corner.

Runs through it, yes.

Across it or no, longitudinally with it.

Um inside.

But if the reason we can't use it is we've looked at it, we'd have to go underneath the railroad and through a private property into the Bacon Creek Channel, old Bacon Creek Channel to get it to drain.

Why did we build it?

We had to have right-away at one time to do that.

I I couldn't answer that.

Well, how did we lose the right-of-way?

And I that was way before my time, so I couldn't tell you on that.

Uh I've talked to Paul Stenman on it, and he had no information on that railroad crossing at all.

It would be a big crossing under the railroad, too.

I don't even know if they they'd obviously go for it eventually, but it'd be big.

Well, how are you going to get rid of the water?

It's going to go through the current ditch that we have.

We're just putting bigger pipes up to that point.

What's in there now?

I don't remember.

I think it's a 72.

That's what that's or no, I think it's bigger than that.

I can find that out and get back to you.

I would like to defer that until we know.

Do a little more research.

Yeah, I I'd move we defer for at least a week if you get more information.

I'm sorry I didn't get to you earlier, but I just heard from Paul a minute ago or so.

I'll I'll second the request to defer before we vote.

Can I ask one other question?

Certainly.

Um section seven of on the engineering fees, task six talks about limited construction administration for 23,040 dollars.

How do you determine that amount?

Because it seems like that's the component that always has a change order or always has actually on the on the ones you're referring to is actually when it is full construction um inspection and administration.

This one is just the limited one where they're just they they kind of guess at what they're going to need to talk uh to contractors about if they have any kind of um questions through RFIs or through um some uh middle review.

It's very limited on it, it's only $22,000, but yeah.

The concern I had was that it would exceed that number.

So if it's less than that number, do we get a reduction to the contract?

Yeah.

Okay.

The motion and a second on the floor.

Rayford.

Aye.

I Scott.

I'm Stein.

Aye.

C is a resolution approving a consulting and service services agreement with Felsberg, Holt, and Yulvig for the Fifth Street and Court Street Traffic Signal Replacement Project.

D is a resolution approving a contract to Ingarth directional drilling for the fiber optic project.

E is a resolution granting a permit to IMON communications to maintain maintain underground fiber on 4th Street.

Can I ask a question on both E and F.

So this is granted without the franchise fee, but there's still not a permit fee or any other fee that attaches to There is a permit fee for each one of these.

But there's not a but they are not required to pay the franchise fee, correct?

Correct.

So the permit fee is simply to do the work, but we don't generate any income for the occupancy of their fiber?

Correct.

Are we not permitted to to do so or we just don't?

Don't as far as I think.

Because it's it's not inconsistent with the franchise fee, correct?

Correct.

I didn't think it was.

I didn't think it was allowed.

What was allowed?

Franchise fee.

I'm going to prefer that.

When it's franchise fees, we do get fees back through the state.

Well, not necessarily.

We used to have it with cable one or whatever they call it now, Sparklight, but I thought that went away.

The state took it.

So the state collects it and we get a kickback?

I don't think the state gets one.

They just you they had the right to go to the state to be regulated rather than the city, and everybody chose to go to the state because nobody regulates them then.

I was under the impression that we got a kickback fee for that.

Well, that would be interesting, but I don't Teresa do Teresa.

Do we get any franchise fee on cable?

I mean on internet.

Um franchise fees on cable, but I do not believe on these we're eligible for them.

On this on this, we don't.

Right, on the fiber?

Correct.

Thank you both.

F is a resolution granting a permit to Metro Fiber Net to maintain underground fiber adjacent to Sunny Book Brook Drive.

G as a resolution approving a renewal option number one to the service provider agreement with Langfeld contracting for the wastewater biosolids transportation and land application program.

I just have one correction on the RCA.

It said three-year contract.

It was actually a four-year contract.

The resolution and the contract extension were correct.

So it's just a minor H is a resolution approving a statement of work and payment with payment corporation to initiate Central Square Fusion Interactive Voice Responsive Integration on a new terminal line access.

This has got to be a John Malloy deal.

Not yours, John.

And there's no financial impact here.

No.

Nope.

I as a resolution approving renewal option number one to the consulting services agreement with Arkstar Group for air consulting services at the airport.

J has a response.

Excuse me, mayor.

Can I ask a question?

Is this coming out of the airport's budget?

It is.

And we're approving it.

It's in our operating.

Okay, very good.

Jay is a resolution approving an agreement with Perfect Mind for Software as a service and professional services.

K is a resolution approving amendment number one to the memorandum of understanding with the Sioux City Assessor's Office, the Conference Board, the Woodbury County Assessors Office and Conference Board and the WCICC Commission relating to geographic information system services and operation.

Aid are actions authorizing payment.

A is a resolution authorizing.

Mayor, I'm sorry, can I go back to J.

Just there I there's a typo that was in last week's materials?

If you go to page 179, there's a reference to I think it's supposed to be $5600, but there's no period.

I don't want there to be any confusion.

Just make a correction on page 179 that the 5,600 should be $5,600, not $56,000.

That's it.

Eight are actions authorizing payments.

A is a resolution authorizing payment of retainage to H and R construction company for the new utilities field office building project.

B is a resolution authorizing payment to the IDOT for traffic.

Signal detection for the hot mixed asphalt overlay project, Iowa 376 project.

C is a resolution approving settlement of a tour claim and authorizing payment.

Ike and Berry.

Is there anybody here that wants to talk about that?

What the plan is we can I think these are already that we can celebrate that this is Jill Watershide Neighborhood Services Manager.

These were some projects that were actually done several years ago.

I think they wrapped right around COVID.

And so the city partnered with Habitat at the time to deed over three lots to them.

They built three homes, and now it was just an oversight, they need to be released since it's families living there, happy, healthy, and wise.

Yep.

And actually this got brought up because one of them is being sold right now, so it came up in a title.

And so and we've got a couple more that we work with over off center street or on the Myrtle.

There are three lots again.

We did it over to Habitat.

Those homes are now done and sold, so pretty exciting.

Yeah, we're making headway on some family homes.

And I thank you for that.

Thank you.

C is a resolution awarding a purchase order to Riverside Technology for desktops and monitors for the county replacement project.

Just a quick clarification.

This says that it's for the purchase of desktops and monitors.

I assume you mean desktop computers.

Is that right, John?

It just says desktops and monitors.

I assume that means desktop computers.

John Mulloy IT, you're correct.

Okay, thanks.

Anyone to be heard on any of those items.

Passes 5013 is a hearing and resolution adopting the comprehensive solid waste reduction plan.

I'll move that.

Second.

Hearings now open.

Anyone to be heard.

Seeing none, the hearing is closed.

Did I I want to just confirm the environmental advisory board reviews and approves this correctly?

That was part of their minutes.

Did I see that correctly?

Before it gets to us.

Air montane environmental, yes.

So this is all on the ordinance.

Yep.

Rate increase.

That's just the comprehensive plan.

This is the plan that has to be reviewed.

And the EAB did look at the rates.

No.

That's 5014 is an ordinance, amending chapter 5.20 entitled Solid Waste and Municipal Code.

First consideration was approved February 9th.

Second consideration was approved February 23rd, 2026.

I'll move third reading.

I'll second that.

The amendments are pretty good.

So Teresa, we're yeah, there you are.

So you talked we talked about the fee on the second can, right?

Yep.

Can you share with the council with the public what we kind of found out?

What uh first of all, give us the structure on what the first can rate is and the second can rate.

I'm gonna have Era do that for you.

I'm not a hundred percent sure exactly how they how and why they've come up with that structure.

I can tell you what's what it is.

Changes will be.

Um so the 95 gallon um can, um, the first can itself is $18.93.

The secondary per can, and then the additional can is four dollars and sixty-three cents for additional can rates coming.

Yep, those are those would be the new rates.

Yes.

Um the 26 rate that we're currently at is $18.38 for the 95 gallon and $4.50 for an additional can.

So what percentage of people get the additional can?

Do we know that?

Um we have 21,000, nearly 21,500 additional cans.

Additionals.

So it's it's about 18 versus 4 if you get a second can.

And the point that we were talking about in operations was is that yeah, the the truck is still rolling down the road, but the reality of it is they're still picking up tonnage and putting it on.

So to try to defer the sum of the cost on the the everyday taxpayer on the single cans, especially a lot of our older folk community that um that it calls on the says that they don't even fill up a full can every time.

Um I think I like to leave said so it's worth basically about 26,000 per dollar.

So it's 21,500 in a year it'd be about 257,000 dollars if you had a per month.

If you add a buck just to the additional cans.

Correct.

How much?

A buck a month.

See, I pro I actually like the idea of adding two and a half, like it's still a steal.

You take it to six and a half on the second can, and that would generate us right at a half million, wouldn't it?

Um yeah, actually beyond that.

Yeah, yep, about six and it'd still be Mr.

Mayor, it'd still be 18 almost 19 bucks versus six and a half on the second can.

Um I will say that will grow the fund.

Yeah, that's okay.

About fifty cents on the big cans.

We can offset that.

I know we can, but that's what brought the discussion up.

We don't want to raise 50 cents on a big can, but we're willing to raise dollars on a second case.

I just think because they've never been raised before.

I mean, it's to me it's a complete oversight by the city is I'm not trying to try to figure out why we charge 18 and then four.

Because that's what we worked out with Gill.

They're not charging us any more than that.

They're not I don't believe they're charging us for the tonnage.

I believe they're charging us for their staff, the guard the trucks, the gas, the the labor.

Right.

The trucks, the gas, the labor, all is based upon how many trips they got to go to the landfill.

So if you have extra if for every second can there is, they build that into how they caught they they price out their contract and they bill this out.

So indirectly you are they the secondary can to me is if if the everyday citizen doesn't want rates to raise, here's the way to do it, because the second can is optional.

You don't have an option to drop a can.

You have to have a you have to have a can if you have a home.

You don't have a choice.

It's like sewer rates, you or runoff fee, you have to pay it.

You but to have a second can is a choice.

And that choice not if you have a large family because you have to be able to close a lid per our ordinance.

Like I said, it's it's a choice.

So the the the four dollars versus you again, you're not asking you to do dollar for dollar eighteen to eighteen, but if you're looking at a way to offset the people I think the most vulnerable, people that the that that seventy cents or two bucks a month makes a difference to, I think you can offset it by just saying if you got the second or the third can, and I think it even plays more into there's some houses that I even know in my own neighborhood that have you know six, seven cans, eight cans, and I guess I question what they're doing with that.

Uh they're using it more of a commercial use anyway, when you start looking at that many cans.

Um so I like to see an amendment add uh to leave harmless the first can per no, leave harmless, yeah.

No, leave leave yeah, leave harmless the first can.

You wouldn't know rate no rate increase on the first can.

What's that worth that that that the revenue on the first can?

That was my question.

There's 26,633.

No, no, on the on the eighteen bucks, the the bump you're taking, Teresa.

About fifty thousand dollars.

That's what I thought.

So if you the again, we gotta be creative here.

And I don't and I don't think it and we're not targeting anybody, and I think it helps the the most vulnerable.

It's let's leave harmless the the single can, the original rate, and uh uh I like two and a half, and it still makes it six and a half, which is still not even forty percent roughly of uh a second can if you were to go dollar for dollar.

And I think that the public can under and understand it and can agree with it.

So if you don't give the rate increase on the first can, you lose fifty grand?

Correct.

So you'd only to do what you guys want to do, you could only have to raise it.

Well, that's per percentage.

I apologize.

That's per percentage.

So it's it's actually I mean it's a little more than that.

150,000, so it's fifty thousand per percentage.

So one percent equals fifty thousand.

So the three percent is about 150,000.

And then two percent would be a hundred thousand, and then the one percent is fifty thousand.

So each percentage amount is about fifty thousand.

But I think the original idea was they were gonna get we're gonna try to spread that fund out, Mr.

Mayor, maybe like a percent each for three years, right?

Try to make that expensive.

Right.

I mean that's what we're talking about.

Or possibly two percent per year, right?

Right.

That was an option, yes.

Yep.

I look at this no difference than like a gas tag.

It's a user fee.

If you don't use the second can, it doesn't affect you.

Everybody has to have the first one.

Um you're gonna have a lot of second cans coming back though, because I rarely use great.

That's great.

Less tonnage.

That or we have the your as Julie said, we have to have your container closed.

If it's open, you can get a fine because then it can cause litter.

I'm afraid that people are gonna give back that second container and try to shove everything in the first one, or have it overflowing onto the ground.

That would be my own.

Let's not assume.

Let's just see what happens.

And I think I think I don't I don't think anybody's gonna give up their can.

I've just throwing that out there as a concern.

So I'm gonna go I'm still trying to figure this out.

So one percent is fifty grand.

On the first you want at least two.

Well, the option was that you could do um you could spread that out what we have in the fund.

So um right.

That would make sure the fund is still has some funds available.

If we don't take any increase at all, it takes the fund down to about $13,000.

We saw numbers for 1%, 2%, 3%.

Yep.

1% puts the fund at $69,694,000.

Um, 2% puts the fund at $126,000, and 3% puts the fund at about $183,000.

So if you did 50 cents on the let's just say 50 cents, you're gonna generate another 10 grand, 10 plus a month.

That's 120 grand.

Well, on on the second can?

On the second can, because we have so many second cans, 50 cents would actually be 120 some thousand dollars a year.

Yes.

So I don't understand why you want to.

I mean, I don't I don't want to build a fund for garbage.

Sorry.

Right.

I want you to have enough cash flow to make it work.

So you guys can make a motion, but I mean the other option is you could take 50 cents this year to the second can and 50 cents next year, and you could build that two and a half dollars up instead of uh touching that the first can.

That's certainly an option too.

Well, the problem the problem is again is it's a three-year fix and it's shallow and it's and we're gonna run it dry.

And you you already said yourself that you need some cash at times you have things that come up on quite regularly.

That's why the the the reserve is there.

So I don't I mean it's it's gonna feel good for three years if we buy it down a percent for three years, but it's not uh again if you really want to change fundamentally the system.

I meant you could add fifty cents to the second can each year and build the fund by instead of building it all in the first year, you could build 125,000 dollars of the yeah.

So people feel like we're raising the rates every year.

Yeah.

I mean, understand that.

Well, second that's what I mean, though.

But I mean I mean back every year anyway.

The uh it just gives you incrementally an increase instead of all in one time.

May not be here in three years, so uh I'd like to just keep it for now.

So I'd like I like to make that that motion that we go two and a half and then leave the the first uh rate stagnant on this on the existing rate that will give relief.

That means that everybody that the public, everybody that has their existing one can will feel no rate rate rate increase.

Um take the second one to seven something then uh second one goes to six about six and a half, right?

Immediately immediately or ladder it in over three.

Uh whenever the contract pops.

No, I think you go to seven dollars a can.

Which is still which is still less than half.

And again, we the the bigger picture here is that that can is full, and it's putting tonnage on truck.

Seconds.

No, there hasn't been a second, but I'm I'm just trying to.

So what's the proposal on the first can to keep it the same?

Yeah, at the same rates, don't even raise the rate.

So that the we're gonna cover the so we covered the fund issue by the second can by two and a half dollars immediately.

Yes.

More than covered it, you're going up over $300,000.

Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna basically net you're gonna net back about about three thirty.

You'll go up about uh over six hundred thousand dollars is what you'll get for.

Which is gonna allow us to do some updating stuff down the road that we're we leaving the sixty-five gallon can the same price then too as well, or is it just that?

What's the impact there?

For that are our senior citizens.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

What's the impact?

I kind of meant it.

I should that was the how many sixty-five gallon to totes are there?

350.

There's not that many.

Uh you really you're talking even at 50 cents a month, you're just not talking about that much money, and clearly it's covered by Rick's proposal on the second can.

Right.

You what do you think the attrition will be on the second can?

Do you think there will be many that's the same?

I'm sure there will be some people that will decide they don't want the can, but I don't I have no idea.

I mean, if you if you use the can, you're going to be able to do that.

You're gonna keep it can build it.

So if those would just be the people that haven't used it and decided, hey, I'm not using this.

I'm now it's becoming more expensive, but I have no idea how many people that would be.

And the reason why this makes sense is get we they entered into a contract where they didn't leave any room for gas allowance.

So right now, I mean I to me if if if I would have been there to negotiate the contract, it would have been the same way we see when we get in concrete or anything else.

When gas gets to a certain place, they bang us, they charge us.

Well, gas is down right now, so in theory we should have a contract with Gill, but we don't that says that gas that that our fee should go down.

So it's that we don't have that.

So this is a way for us to, I think, just status quo this and ride this contract out that we're doing.

And it and it helps the everyday consumer.

It really does.

It helps the everyday person that that has one can, it helps the senior citizens.

Um, and it also creates some some buffer for you to do what you need to do when when things come up versus we have no money and we got to steal from somewhere else.

It's it's a user fee.

That's the best way to explain it.

So the other say we steal from other places, unfortunately, we cannot do that.

Yeah, bounce from other places.

Make that clear.

So the other CPI index changes of three percent, glass recycling, hauling fee, high density drop-offs recycling, high density, drop-off recycling site per call per eight and twenty.

And the other indexes, automobile tires, pickup tires, major appliances at two percent, tractor tires three percent, those are all still proposed to go up as previously approved.

So the proposal right now is the amendment to correct eliminate the three percent on the ninety-fives, increase the second on the ninety-fives.

Full three percent?

So in lieu of the three percent.

You're buying it down.

So there would not be an increase on ninety-five or sixty five gallons, it would just be the additional gallon additional fan that would be two dollars fifty-century.

Or we could agree not to do the three percent and do one or two percent on the first ninety-five gallon as well.

Well, you could split it that's and deplete the fund in three years.

No, could no, because you're still you're still gonna get your oh you mean and you still do the two and a half.

Yeah, I kind of like leaving the no let's let's let's throw a bone to the citizen.

Let's throw the bone to the person that that went out of their way.

I think I got like nine or ten emails that said, you know, don't quit raising our rates every year.

I know it's only like sixty, seventy cents, but clearly dollars a year.

No, so it's a user fee.

That's how you gotta look at it.

This should have been done years ago.

So we've got a motion on the floor.

Second.

Rayford.

Aye.

No.

That no.

Erinstein?

No.

Ertrand.

Aye.

That's status quo, guys at its best right there.

No, because we still have to we have further discussion on where we are with the one, two, or three percent increase as it is.

You could yeah, they certainly could have you could have another amendment.

And we can we could still bundle rather than going to two fifty.

You could go to fifty cents or a dollar and just try and blend it all in, which is I have more comfort doing that.

So per dollar that you increase that can, it goes up about two hundred and fifty-eight thousand dollars, the fund does.

Say that again.

Per dollar that you increase the can per month, they're gonna be a big can.

On the second can, it's about two hundred and fifty-eight thousand dollars a year.

But what I'm saying, Craig, on that two fifty is that you're basically taking away the auto three percent.

That was my goal.

You're basically taking away that automatic three percent in a really bad contract.

And the three percent generates how much additional that we never get a vote on.

Uh 183,000.

So if you went a dollar on the on the extra can, you would cover that and then some.

Yep.

Yeah.

You would move that.

Yep, I'll second that.

Hi.

Scott.

Aye.

Barnstein.

Aye.

Bertran.

Aye.

Rayford.

Aye.

So that means the other state flat, but that goes.

Yep.

Correct.

Now on the now on the motion.

Third reading, I'll move it.

Well, we already moved it.

So now we got a vote on the on that.

That.

Bernstein.

Aye.

Bertran.

No.

Rayford.

Shanner.

Discussion 15's a motion appointing Alex Waters to the Active Transportation Advisory Committee deferred from February 23rd, 2026.

I'll move that.

Mr.

Mayor, can I defer that for another week?

Do we have to yeah, we get a uh let's get a second for the discussion first.

Second.

Okay.

Okay.

Now you can ask for a second on the deferral.

Now you can do that.

Now you can move to defer.

We have the second the motion.

Oh, gotcha.

Now you now you can move to the case.

Yeah, I'll move to defer just for a week.

Second.

Second.

Aye.

Bertran.

Aye.

Rayford.

Aye.

Tainer.

No.

That 16 is a motion reappointing Jacob Wondershide to the effective fiscal and public policy committee deferred from February 23rd, 2026.

I'll move that.

Second.

Passes 5017 is a motion appointing British Brett Washgorn to the fiscal effective fiscal and public policy committee deferred from February 23rd, 26th.

I'll move that.

Second.

Passes three to two.

18 is a motion appointing Pratt Patrick McKinley to the Jillian Kosovo Sister City Committee committee deferred from February 23rd, 26th.

I'll move that.

Second passes 5019s a motion authorizing staff to draft an ordinance legalizing the utilization of ATVs and UTVs on specified city streets.

I'll move that.

Second.

You want to create a little bit of a question.

I want to create a a work group and and so we can really dive into this.

I'll second that.

I'm good either way with that.

I think if we approve the the direction to legal, that's what they're gonna do anyway.

And I think if part of the direction was to draft an ordinance but put together a working group, I think they would do that, but I'm either way.

I'm comfortable.

I think we should probably delete it.

I'd like to do the work first.

I think you could do it either way.

Yeah, I move to delete it.

That's fine.

Oh okay.

Hold on.

Sorry, are you gonna withdraw your motion to delete?

I withdraw it.

Okay.

Now we can take a new motion.

Yeah.

I move to delete until the side.

So are they in the process right now of drawing up an ordinance copy?

That that's gonna be that's what it comes off there.

Okay.

The uh that would have been the direction.

Only direction I would give just kind of preliminary, is is the UTV is I don't know where the ATV kind of snuck in there.

We're really mostly talking about UTVs, it seems like.

Um I don't know if anybody's gonna get on board with the A T V side of it.

But the U T V is very intriguing and like does eventually deserves a vote, no doubt about it.

But absolutely.

But yeah, and we're we're on the same page there, but I just think that I keep reading this A TV, ATV thing, and I don't I don't know if you're gonna get a lot of communities aren't supporting the ATV side of it, but the U TV side of it might be where we focus our our efforts.

Recommend on that.

Um Caleb is here if you want to hear from a representative of legal.

My my hope too is that that we all come together and and and give it due diligence so that we can talk about and and as you said, you know, separate these two, make sure that we were not, you know, making decisions that we sure definitely practically as well as legally.

They are different types of devices under um Iowa code chapter 321i, they are treated the same as far as functionally and then you know, as far as registration and operation, things of that nature.

So they are um subject to the same regulations, but we're not constrained to keep it that way.

How do how do they DMV separate the two?

Say again.

How does DMB or whomever separate the two?

Neither are subject to reditration.

Right.

So my question is.

My question is as you're doing your research there, just could you point out the the bigger thing I want to see is what specifically other communities like council bluffs and everything else were what what are they doing with so not now, but just when the time comes.

That's really is what we need to the idea that there's nobody is doing it is not correct.

They're doing it all over the state, and even in communities our size.

So just I just if we're gonna do this, let's just not reinvent the wheel.

Um I think it's gonna happen, but um just a matter of of what it looks like, and let's let's find a really good community that's doing it right, and let's get on the horn.

Talk to some soccer sheriffs and some other people that are in those communities and see what they're what they like and don't like about it.

Ike, what's your sense of of who you'd like to be on the task force or the the oversight committee?

Well, I I I think uh I I'd be looking at legal, uh you know, law enforcement, uh police department, sheriff's department, uh as well as any even some citizen input.

I think we just need to get some citizen input.

I'm not sure if we're gonna be able to do that.

House suit does.

Yes.

Yeah, they've got some pretty register.

This is positive or ATV people, are you TV people here?

I think it's possible.

This is positive.

This is really positive.

Yeah, we we just want to do it right.

Yeah.

I have a list of every city in the state.

No, you got ma'am, you gotta come on up there to come to the microphone.

Like you should be on a committee.

Um I have a list of every city in the state that authorizes it.

And unfortunately it didn't print.

They called all these cities.

And there's a lot.

And there's a lot of people that I have talked to myself about how they regulate it and the laws.

Pretty much all of our are you seeing a differentiation between ATVs and UTVs as well.

I I am not for ATVs on the street.

Benny Tobin.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um this is the Iowa State one, and I think they have covered every every possible, you gotta have insurance, you gotta have seat belts, you gotta have turn signals.

They've covered it all.

No one under 18.

You have to have a roll cage or you have to wear a helmet, right?

No, no helmet.

Oh because you are completely enclosed in most of these.

Um if you're not hard doors, they have door nets and they have safety belts.

So if you want, I can give you guys these.

Are you allowed to scream like woo when you drive or not?

You've got to have a horn.

Beep beep.

Just wonder if you're allowed.

So and I think they're far safer than gives you a minute.

Yep, either way.

I'll take it.

Thanks.

I personally don't think ATVs should be on the street because there is nothing to protect you.

Maybe helmets on ATVs, but it's still if you get hit on an ATV, you're coming off.

There's no seat belt, there's no restraints, there's nothing.

That's the motorcycle riders are the ones who've already said, well, what about motorcycles?

I'm a motorcycle rider.

Yeah.

I wear a helmet.

Yeah.

And I know it's dangerous out there, but you gotta be vigilant.

Right.

But people in golf carts.

There's a lot of stuff going on.

Electric bicycles.

They're okay if they got pedals, but once you take the pedals off, that's a different story.

Yeah, it is.

But you know, there's there's a lot of different stuff out there.

I think UTVs are far safer than anything mentioned.

Because you do have a roll cage, yeah, windshield, back window.

Yeah, most of them have doors nowadays.

Doors, stereo is cheaper than some of those.

I know.

$52,000 for one is way beyond my paycheck.

So we're thinking that we're gonna put together a task force or an oversight group.

Are you thinking 30 days, 60 days, 90 days?

I was gonna say 90 days just to be safe.

You know.

Yeah.

So that gets us March, April, May.

Basically, June first.

It's gotta go to, it's gotta get written, and it's gotta go to June first.

We say why don't we give what do we say 60 days?

Okay.

That'll be good for uh Memorial Weekend.

There you go.

There you go.

That's our goal.

All right, thank you.

Thanks for your time.

Thanks for the information as well.

You're anyone else to be heard.

Okay.

So the motion on the floor right now is a defer.

Second.

It's already got a second.

No, I thought we were gonna delete the delete, sorry.

Remember, yeah.

Bring it back.

Rayford.

I.

Scott.

Barenstein.

Hi.

Bertrand.

Hi.

Citizen concerns.

Are there any citizens who would like to be heard on anything?

You gotta come to the microphone, state your name, please.

My name's Alan McGaffin.

I want to make two points here.

Uh I'll change the direction I was gonna go and and stand opposed to ATVs and UTVs.

Um Rex Mueller is opposed to those vehicles as well.

I think our roadways are built for transportation rather than recreation.

Now I know a lot of motorcycles out there tend to take the roads for recreation, and that's why I find them a dangerous vehicle.

And they add to the danger of uh just normal transportation.

So I hope the task force uh considers those vehicles in a serious way.

And if they don't, or if they do, uh I think we could look at some fees, perhaps, for the privileges of of taking those on the roadways.

I'd like to talk about the library.

I do think there are some limitations on permitting and the fee structure.

The state governs the manner in which they can be permitted.

So we're we're somewhat restricted, but appreciate your comments.

I think the state realizes the seriousness of the vehicles, and they they say only certain roadways.

Yeah, now they do for these.

And in the city, there's there's an unlimited number of roadways, in fact.

Now I want to move to the library budget, and you spent a lot of time, I think, on Saturday talking about the library budget.

I was concerned with the uh the remarks in the paper yesterday.

Umer and councilman Bertrand both are talking about a very big and a sharp axe to the budget.

I'd like it to be something less than 25 percent.

And Councilman Bernstein suggested looking at the library board for some suggestions, and I hope that they can come up with some some alternatives to uh what's been talked about so far.

Um I'd like you all to walk into the Wilbur Alf sometime and see the number of people in there.

Yes, the Wilbur House takes a big uh footprint in downtown Sioux City.

So does the uh so does the uh courthouse.

And I think if you walked into Wilbur Alves, you'd probably see more people in there at any given time than you would see in the courthouse.

And there's children, and there's children well behaved under the supervision of librarians, parents.

There's community members that are well behaved, some of them might be dozing at the table, some of them might just be killing time, some of them might be meditating.

It is a very, very busy place, and this and the same can be said for the Morningside branch.

I can't imagine those two buildings being abandoned and moved from.

There are so many uses for those libraries, especially the the main library.

We're a repository of records, some of the same arguments that went into the state argument about the the the state library this this winner could apply to our city library.

We just we just can't give it up.

Um the library book sale every year raises a lot of money, raises some money for the library.

I don't know if it's significant or not.

Perhaps the library could consider raising their fees for those used books.

Uh it's a long two-week stretch that they make sales, but it's a very well attended, very well supported by the community activity.

Uh there's got to be some ways to raise some fees, I understand, but uh I don't know if they could ever replace a 25 percent or a 1 million dollar fee, which has been talked about.

So let's give the library board a chance and let's let's think it over and carefully.

I just prize our libraries as an old English teacher.

Uh don't cut my legs out from under me.

Don't don't cut the readers.

Sure, that's not our intention.

And we have it.

And we did have two meetings with them in the fall of 2025.

Yes, the board and uh staff, along with Helen, her entire team, and the board on two separate occasions.

So this isn't a surprise that we wanted them to reimagine a new model if if budgets were as tight as they are, and we're finding them even tighter.

Yeah, we afforded them the opportunity to say if there were significant budget cuts, what would that look like?

What could you envision the library?

You're in the trenches, right?

What what could it look like?

And we were met with no interest, no suggestions, no model.

So that's what brought us to now.

And I was a part of those discussions, so I know that to be fact.

There were no threats of closing the downtown library, there were no threats of cutting any kind of programming, no salaries, no layoffs, nothing.

There was a proposal brought to them that said, if there were cuts to be made, what would another model look like if we were to reduce the footprint of the main branch?

Yeah.

That's their budget of the entire budget.

So what we were proposing is people love the Morningside branch.

We would never take the Morningside branch away.

Does the Morningside excuse me?

Does the Morningside branch get to charge for use of that community room that's attached to the library?

I don't know.

I just know that per our finance director, their operating budget consumes 450,000 a year of the overall 3.9 million that the library needs to operate.

That's a busy community room.

It is, that's wonderful.

So you know what?

Nobody would want the morningside branch to reduce.

We like it that way.

And could we make two other morningside branches and then maybe a tiny bit larger downtown footprint?

I don't know, but we were leaving that to Helen and the board to say this is what it would look like, or to say it can't.

Here's our here's our what we tried to work out, but we got zero response out of three communications with them.

So I'm just saying this did not come out of the blue, where there are no threats of cutting, closing, nothing.

I just want that to be clear.

I was involved in that, and I know for a fact.

So I appreciate you being here.

I I don't want the library to go away either.

Yeah, no.

But we're talking nearly four million dollars, of which almost all of that is funded from taxpayers.

It comes out of the general fund, which is property taxes.

And that's what our constituents want us to do is be mindful of that levy and those property taxes.

We cut works, a project that people want to get rid of potholes and they want overlays.

We have a new mill and overlay program that started was approved last year.

We haven't even laid down the blacktop for the first year of that program, and that program was already cut for over two million dollars.

So it's not just the library, it's everybody.

What percentage of the staff uh what percentage of the total budget does the staff well we can't go by total budget because part of our budget are enterprise funds.

The water ratepayers take care of that fund.

The sewer rate payers take care of that fund.

So you see this big 200 and some odd million dollars.

We collect around 65 million, is it Teresa?

67 million through property taxes.

So that's where your percentage would come from.

That fund, not the overall fund.

So can anybody do the math quick?

What is the four million dollars?

It's five percent of the collected budget that our general fund property taxes.

The property taxes.

And again, I remember too, Julie did a great job there.

Yeah, you gotta remember that the the reporting on this sometimes is funny because it's stirs people up.

It gets people all excited.

Oh my gosh, they're gonna close libraries, they're gonna no, you gotta remember that the only there's a reason why there's a a bill in Des Moines being talked about with libraries and control of libraries with the boards, is because the only control that that that any city council has, and then as I'm walking into this, is we don't have any control over content or operations or anything.

All we can do is give them a block of money.

It's up to them.

And so when we walk in there and we talk about modernizing the system, maybe making pocket libraries where more people can actually attend them, put them around amenities where people feel safer, those type of things, and having a smaller hub, again being more efficient, just just kind of modernizing the library system.

Then the the board says, no, and I think I heard the word impossible 17 times.

It's impossible, it's impossible.

Well, the only control we have then to get their attention because they didn't they were they they cold shouldered the the request last fall from the old council.

So you have to throw stuff out there and say, well, if you're not gonna respond to us, then you know what, then maybe we'll cut a million dollars your budget and going to force you to come up with a new model.

That's the conversation.

That's not the we're we're closing libraries and this and that.

It's we're now our only control is the dollars to change behavior, and the behavior is figure out a new model that serves more people and and modernizes uh the library system.

So that's what needs to be reported.

So thank you for bringing this discussion.

It's a great discussion.

It's wonderful.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thanks, Alan.

Thanks, Al.

Nice to see you.

Mayor and counsel Alex Waters.

Uh Mike, I just wanted to thank you.

Um I reached out to Mike last week asking for a deferral on the appointment, and I appreciated that very much.

Um, being home with family, and uh I just wanted to, I know we had some appointments today, and mine was deferred.

I didn't know if we were doing a a work group or uh uh study session on my appointment to an active transportation committee.

Um, but it was proposed and seconded, and then four out of one of you supported a deferral, so I I can come back next week if that apparently is more convenient for all of you, or is there a reason that is there a work group being discussed about my appointment to this committee?

So just come back.

There was a request we deferred, so I assume there was a need to do so, so I was supportive of that.

Not an indication one way or the other for on my part, just willing to I just know usually there's discussion or at least an explanation for a deferral, so I didn't but you guys defer things a lot more than I'd ever have seen.

So I guess I'll just see you next week.

Sorry for your loss too.

Yeah, we're sorry for your loss, Alex.

Hello, James Barrett.

1924 West Fifth Street.

I came to ask for your help today at 2,000.

West Fifth Street, East Side Parking.

There's a tree that continues to drop limbs for three years now.

Last year at tax time, I asked Bob personally if he could use his influence to help me, because I'm getting nowhere with the city.

And I would like some help on that.

That's number one.

Number two.

Can I can I ask, but I don't want to interrupt, but so 2000 West Fifth Street is that public property, private property.

It's on the easement.

It's not an easement, okay.

Correct.

The east side of the whole house.

It has been dropping uh pretty good size limbs for years now.

And I can't seem to get anyone to help me.

It's not that big of a deal.

We're talking a couple hours.

Um Prince at the tree place just been unbelievably difficult, along with his secretary.

Terrible to deal with, honestly.

Um so that's that.

And the second issue I have is garbage cans.

Um we have we have new this rental property, and the house across the street moved in.

Uh approximately three months ago, four garbage cans have been sitting out in the street banging those lids for three months straight.

So, how I actually got it resolved was I called the police department.

Uh I believe um excuse me.

Saturday, and had to do a noise complaint to get it taken care of.

These are four cans banging the lids.

Go down that alley.

I pick up that alley behind my house.

I'm okay to do it, but they won't, they're not doing anything.

I went to the city, they come out, it lasted for I don't know, two days, a day.

The owner of the property came in, moved the can back, then they put them out, they're all out there.

All of the all of the uh lids are open, and it's a landfill back there.

It isn't right now because I just got done picking it up, but I would like some help with that.

And what's the address of the that one is 1922 West Fifth Street?

If you go into Alley, it looks like a war-torn, it looks like a third world country.

Um it's like I said, it's not too bad because I just got done picking it up.

But if you could help me with those, uh I'll try not to bother you again.

Mike, can you follow up on both of those?

Yep, I got that.

Michael follow up on those.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks for your time.

Thank you.

Anyone else?

Okay.

Homeless task force operation.

Rex regular police department.

Um, I know that there's uh uh questions about our meeting with the judges.

I don't know if Captain Groves is gonna join me.

Uh I thought I'd give this quick statistics of the past three weeks.

Normally we give you two weeks since we uh deferred this week's pres or last week's presentation.

I'll gloss over the uh details and then Jill has a presentation uh as we spoke about in budget.

Obviously, the police department isn't the only participant from the city side in the task force.

Uh just activities of uh the past three weeks and the collection period is February 2nd through February 22nd.

Uh encampments located 14 cleanup operations conducted five, new individuals contacted 20, and then partnerships and coordination.

Obviously, we send these to you in the council updates, so you should have those.

Every week I feel like uh we have a new organization that the task force is engaging with to become more effective, and those are by and large private partnerships, so those are expanding.

I would just check your list.

Hey, Chief.

Yes.

On the on the 14th in camp, 14 active now encampments you're saying.

Encampments located, yes.

Located.

So what's the what's the time range between identifying it and throwing the big tire with the sign out?

That depends on it depends on how so we we expect the and the officers are kind of the subject matter experts on that.

If it's established, it's uh it kind of dictates how the city must proceed as far as somebody property rights, and then it's posted.

Uh it could be one where it's fairly unestablished, and the individual can be asked to move along and they take their belongings and it's done.

So I don't get a breakdown of that, but uh a lot of that is based on the condition of the encampment.

An established one, we definitely need to post.

Who who puts the big tire and the sign on it?

Public works.

Public works does.

So when we so I'm showing for the process gets warmer here, and Councilman Bernstein's driving down and he sees encampment and it who does he call to alert.

Well, to it seems as though we get the first and then we make the referral.

So a lot of times depends on who you go to, but usually the call is to the police department, and then where should it go?

Where should it go?

Where do you want it to go?

Well, to be quite honest, with a task force operating, they're hitting them quicker than we ever did before.

So rather than waiting for it to go from here to there to there to get action, we're doing the cleanups a lot faster with the operations of the task force, and they have identified uh common areas where these are evolving, and they're hitting those as part of their regular uh duties.

So these 14 that are identified, they're all tagged.

Not always.

Like I said, it depends on the condition.

Was it just established?

Is it small?

Is it of a large nature?

Uh we expect them to utilize appropriate judgment in dealing with that because we can't just throw away somebody's personal property.

But I mean, based upon when that tire with the tag on it hits the site.

24 hours.

Yes.

So you see where I'm going with this.

Speed, which is we see it, what's who do we call, and we got a pickup truck with these tires and these announcements on it.

Let's get let's get the site served.

Because I think the quicker we, you know, defuse.

I mean, we're doing great.

Don't get me wrong.

I think that's a good thing.

It's about speed.

Yeah, that's why I asked if all 14 tagging them.

Let's.

And it also depends if that encampments on the public or private property where we're I have one of those, as you know, this last week, and it worked fine.

It was cleaned.

The people, you know, were removed, and then the property owner just texted me to find some more information, and they were more than willing to get rid of the stuff, but they just want to make sure legally can we throw this stuff away.

Yeah, they do the same thing.

That's it.

That is a the private property piece is a huge barrier because you're then we then involve inspections and it becomes a more lengthy process.

And especially if they choose not to or uh don't clean it up.

But it seems like a phone call from you guys.

If it's identified on private property, seems like a phone call from the PD seems to be kind of motivate the owner in it.

At times, it has been, yeah.

That's so far, my experience so far has been two for two.

Um property owners.

You guys call the private and they kind of go, yep, we'll get it off.

I mean, it's you know, it's been pretty good.

So not everybody is responsive, but we're doing our best.

Uh but again, if it's if it's uh public property, that's fairly easily rectified.

But again, I think just the presence of the task force and credit to Captain Groves and the officers and staff who are dealing with that.

I think we're getting to things, identifying things much, much quicker than we were before.

So and I'll let Captain Groves comment about the uh meeting with the judges.

I think it's very uh positive meetings.

You want to uh Chris Groves, uniform services captain.

Uh touch base on that a little bit.

As uh the chief mentioned, the process is going to be faster because of the homeless task force.

Um in the past, we would get the call that we we would call public works, and then it's based on their schedule, go out and serve that, having those people or having those uh uh divisions work together every day.

Captain, do you have a single point of contact at public works?

Who do you call?

Well, right and right now we're just dealing with through the uh and I just lost his name.

Who's working?

Dan Dan Dan Hutton uh is not Hutton, Hars Dead, Dan Harsted is the one assigned to that task force, so they're going out and finding them and if they need to put tag them, that's what they're tagging.

But as long as we keep somebody from public works, whether it's parks or uh streets, as long as we keep somebody in that task force, that's our go-to.

Okay.

I'm just saying which it would be nice to have an identified person, I'm sure you're saying you do, right?

Yep, right now we do.

It's all fallen on that task force, we'll get out and we'll and we'll get them served.

Um the judges' meeting uh was very positive.

Uh what we've learned most about this this homeless task force is uh there's things happening that we don't know about.

There's things that are happening or that that go on that we make assumptions and we make statements that may not necessarily be 100 percent accurate.

Um, a lot of the conversations that have happened in this room, and uh what we learned was the judges listened to these meetings or at least gotten back to them, and it's if they are listening, we need to make sure we uh uh understand uh there's been a lot of discussion about taking people to jail and getting out within two hours.

And I think that was uh a frustration for the judges, and we lose emphasis on that, that's a lot of dealing with the trespass.

The trespass really has very little teeth, just the way that the law is written, that it's a it's a civil, it's a fine is all we can do.

They talked about we did talk about a loitering.

You can take them to jail, but they can't hold them out.

They have some public in tox or something.

Right.

If there's an another criminal offense attached to it, or if they have a warrant out or something, correct.

But it's a big inconvenience when they got to go down there and get processed.

That's what I like.

That's what I like about it too.

Sorry, it's an inconvenience for your your your trespass.

But I think a lot of the conversation we were talking about was you felt like if we're dealing with these people, these habitual offenders, if you will, the getting in and out of jail is not is not deterring that.

We we're just continually dealing with those folks.

And uh that came up in the meeting, and we had to backpedal a little bit.

We're kind of mixing things together.

And you're right.

You're bringing if it's public intact, if it's uh interference with official acts, if it's a warrant, they can hold those people in jail.

Let the judges know if you're listening that we apologize for that, but that's perception in the public perception.

And that's the input of information that we get.

Yep.

Oh, I saw them, you know, they're out two hours later.

Yeah.

And I think a lot of what we hear about is the trespass.

I mean, we deal a lot of trespass, just people being in places they're not supposed to be.

Um, and it that is a revolving door, and there's really not a lot we can do about that.

Um, it's it's just factual.

But the judges were very receptive of these uh again, habitual offenders that we're we were constantly dealing with.

If they are in tox interference over and over and over again, that we we've we're working on ways to make our affidavits better.

Um the county attorney's office will work with us, go in front of the judge, and I mean they're not by no means they're not saying we're gonna do 30 days and they're gonna be gone, but they are willing to do it.

Kevin, that was one of the things when I spoke with the judges.

Number one, they like you guys coming in and they they are listening and they do want to be part of the solution.

Um of the things they said where they asked us to share, and it was very it was a great conversation was when the guys are doing writing them up with the specifics are the key, and I know they gave you that feedback is the more details they get, the more they can get sticky.

And uh that was one thing they shared with me.

And then the other one they asked about was a homeless court.

Is Jill, is that you?

Yes, that is me.

They because he wanted they wanted some answers on that, so I'm sure they're listening.

They could you give us a little explanation of what I've never heard of it, and I don't think they did either.

Okay.

Um, so we're kind of in the beginning stages still.

So homeless court is an initiative that we are the pilot project for the state of Iowa here.

The state of Iowa wanted to give it a try.

So the Iowa Finance Authority provided $25,000 to the city of Sioux City to um do this pilot project here.

So we have in turn partnered with the American Bar Association, they're a consultant on it.

Um and basically, long, long, long story short, it's similar to Project Compass.

If there's people that have charges, fines related to for crimes that are typically related to homelessness, like maybe they have a bunch of trespass fines, they have um public in talks, they have things like that.

We decide locally what we want to focus on.

Um they can select a case manager of their choosing from any of our agencies that they're working with.

They go through a whole process similar to Project Compass.

Um, and then at the end, if they uh graduate from the program, they get those fines and other things released.

So it's a way to um to remove those barriers to housing.

So we're the first in Iowa to try it.

We're gonna see how it goes.

One of the things that we also do with that is a same-day service fair.

Um so we had our first one uh about a month ago.

We have another one coming up actually on St.

Patrick's Day.

Um, and so that's where you have a lot of agencies coming together.

The DOT will be there, really just doing same-day things.

What can we do to remove these barriers?

Like um having the IO Iowa DOT issue actual IDs on site.

We're trying to get the county there to do birth certificates as well.

Things that we just can get people moving faster into housing, is what we are trying to do with that program.

I'm glad I heard you say county.

We really have got to marry the city and the county and these processes together.

We really do.

So I'm glad to hear that they're gonna be on board with that.

So everything we talked about, the judges have been shared with our staff, and you're right.

The affidavits we talked about the affidavits is a little more details.

Um I made it very clear to our staff though, it's not every public intox.

Not if you're arrested in some 25-year-old on fourth street, we don't need to have them in jail for 30 days.

That's not the point.

We're we gotta deal just with our habitual and make sure affidavits are are a little bit more detailed.

So that's all been shared.

Keep working.

Good job.

Captain Groves, before we do appreciate it.

Uh huh.

Before you go, yes.

I would like to thank you on behalf of this council for pushing this task for us.

I think you dreamed it up.

Was it your idea?

Yes.

Was it really my idea?

I bought it here from somewhere else.

Your idea, don't be too humble.

I would like to acknowledge that and to say thank you so much for taking the lead on this.

I don't know how long you're gonna hold these reins.

It might be longer than you ever dreamed, but we'll see.

Or it could be shorter than we ever dreamed.

It could be, we don't know.

We don't know.

We'll see how it goes.

I know you're still gathering data, and I think you're doing a great job, and I just want to thank you and commend you for that.

So, and I think it's public, and I and I say this, and and uh I am retiring at the end of the month.

So it's what we heard.

That's right.

I I didn't want to say that.

So uh Captain Bertran will be uh will be my replacement, and uh I'm trying to get him caught up in speed, he's kind of taking over some of the stuff, but um yeah, it's but thank you.

Thanks for everything that you've done.

Um pleasure to work with.

Thank you.

Okay, I'm just gonna provide a little bit, we're gonna kind of do a different um twist, I guess, to what we've been discussing the rest of the weeks when we do, or when um Chief does a an update.

Um, so what I'm gonna do is go over kind of how the city fits in to everything that's happening with homelessness in our community, and a ton of stats.

So we have a plethora of information on everyone that we're doing intakes on that's experiencing homelessness.

So there's a lot of interesting information that I just want to go over really quickly.

I will go fast.

Um so please interrupt me if you have any questions as we go.

Whenever I um I get asked, or our staff gets asked to speak a lot about homelessness out in the community.

I always like to remind everyone in the beginning that we do other things besides homeless services.

We have five areas we primarily work in from housing rehab, public services, public improvements, um, and affordable housing creation or other areas.

This is our current organizational um chart.

There are 10 of us working in a multitude of different areas.

Um, and we have a couple nonprofits under our umbrella too.

What's unique about us is we are about 99.9% federal and state funded.

The only local dollars we have is for the bus ticket relocation program, and a little bit of local dollars for our audit for our um one nonprofit or housing trust fund.

Everything else comes from a mix of competitive and entitlement grants, so our our budget can fluctuate quite a bit.

Um last year was over seven million or this current fiscal year.

So um trying to get as much money into the city as possible for what our needs are.

And I do want to say that because your department does such a great job, your money have been recognized, and some of them have gone up because of that.

You don't need the money sitting around, you put it to action.

Yeah, the state will usually contact us if they have extra funding because we can spend it.

So we have a lot of need here.

Um so you might hear a lot about the um COC or the continuum of care or Steel and Coalition in Homelessness.

That is all the same thing.

Um the federal government requires if you're gonna use federal dollars to help anyone that's experiencing homelessness, you have to have what's called a continuum of care, which is a big group of agencies, um providers that come together to discuss needs related to homelessness.

They also work on all the grant applications together as a team to get that money into Sioux City.

So for the city of Sioux City, we get three grants out of the conteam of care.

It is a planning grant, and we're the lead agency of the continuum of care, so that pays for some of our staff time.

We have our coordinated entry, which I'll talk about a lot, but that is where we're actually interviewing all of these people that are coming into our office to see what their needs are, um, and then um scoring them, do all sorts of things, and then our homeless management information system that's actually the software that we're required to use that tracks all of the people that we're talking to.

And then um uh Safe Place and Rapid or Safe Place and Heartland Counseling, they both also get grants for permanent supportive housing and rapid rehousing.

So, all told there's over 50 agencies and organizations that meet every other month to go through funding, to go through um needs, issues out in the community.

Um so it's a it's been a pretty good group.

So, how do we fit into this?

Like I said, we are the lead agency.

Um so Clara on our staff, she actually serves as a secretary.

It's a separate board, separate 501c3.

Um, and then our main part of kind of what we do when it relates to homelessness is coordinated entry.

Um, and so we are the ones doing all of the intakes.

We're the ones managing that list.

We're very unique in the state of Iowa, in that everyone else in the state uses a third-party consultant to do the list.

We do it here locally because we get faster real-time information, we're able to make changes faster, um, and we're just more in the know about what's going on out there in real time.

Which can make a real difference when you're handling it and not someone who's not benches.

The main thing to remember too is a lot of times people you might hear people say, I've been on this list forever, blah, blah, blah.

Um, when you do an intake and you're asking a million questions, everything from you know your medical history, um if you're a sex offender, if you're a vet, work, all just a million things.

Um, and then you're assigned a score based on basically how much assistance you do need.

Um, and so it's ranked from the top to the bottom.

So if you're at the very bottom with the amount of people that we have on a list any given time, you're probably not gonna get a referral.

Um thing too to always keep in mind is everyone on that list is literally homeless.

Um, they have to be at a shelter, they have to be staying outside in a car or a camper, um, abandoned building, that kind of thing, or fleeing domestic violence and not having a support system.

We have a lot of people that call us or stop by our office that'll say, Oh, I'm staying, I'm couch surfing, or I'm staying in a hotel, but I'm run out of money.

Um, HUD and the federal government says we cannot assist to that at all.

We're only focusing on those people that are reporting that they are literally homeless.

Um, when they do say things like that though, where they just need some assistance, we try not to, you know, just send them on their way.

We do try to also refer them to other um other services.

Is there a time frame that a person has to be homeless or if they just say that?

Nope, just the night before.

Good question.

Yep.

Um, so that's why we have significantly more people in need of housing assistance than um program openings.

So this is kind of an eye-opening thing for most, because I think a lot of people think, which is true, we have a lot of great services in Sioux City, but if you're looking for literal housing programs, we're gonna be put in a place or referred to a place to live, we don't have a whole lot.

Um we have 33 units through permanent supportive housing.

Um, Safe Place has 22 units, and that's tied to domestic violence.

And then Fava, they're a great partner, that's Family Alliance for Veterans of America.

Um, their number of units varies based on need, um, but typically five or under.

So every time they meet, which is every two weeks, those agencies are taking referrals for what they have openings for, and we just honestly don't have a lot.

So when people are waiting on the list, where our staffs providing birth certificates, social security cards, state tribal IDs, we're referring to services, we help with section eight, our um section eight applications and security deposit assistance too.

So I'm gonna transfer kind of to our stats.

And Clara in our office has done a phenomenal job.

She is our HMIS administrator, so she wears lots of hats, but that's one really important thing, um, many important things that she does, but um, where she's kind of the keeper of all these stats and numbers.

So we did calendar year just to make it easier.

So out over the calendar year 25, we had 1,054 individuals on that list at any given time within 755 households.

Um 103 of those 755 households had one child under the age of 18.

Our staff in calendar year 25 did 565 intakes, which is a lot.

That can range depending on their background, it can take anywhere from half hour to an hour where you're asking very personal questions.

Um 246 of the people over that thousand, we're gonna go back to that thousand, um, identified as being chronically homeless.

That means that they have a disability and they've been homeless for at least 12 months or more.

Or that over the last three years, they've had four or more instances of homelessness that total that 12 months.

Um 26 self-reported, and I like to say self-reported too, because I like to remind everyone this is what they're telling us.

Um so we're taking what they're saying and entering into this system, we're not third-party checking it.

Um 655 people self-reported having a disability, 26 reported as requiring to register as a sex offender, 27 people self-reported as veterans.

Um, it's been a very interesting learning process for me too, um, because I didn't realize, depending on their discharge status, what they're eligible for.

So someone might say to you, hey, I'm a veteran, I'm having a hard time getting services.

It might be because of what their discharge status was.

Well, it could be a dishonorable discharge, something like that.

Yeah, we've had some that have come in for sure.

Just some other interesting stats to share.

Um, an average client age, again, this is over that thousand people, our highest category is between 35 and 44.

We've seen over the last few years that these stats have started to range up both here and nationally.

Gender, we also hear a lot about oh, there's more male than female that are homeless.

We're not seeing that locally, it's about 50-50.

I mean, there's not a significant difference between the two.

Client race and ethnicity, this is always an interesting topic of conversation too, because of the way that it relates to our community as a whole.

Um, so you can see the largest 404 people self-reported as white.

Um, and this is the breakdown of percentage.

So if you look at our community as a whole, um 66% of our community is um white, and uh um on our list, it's about 38%, so it's underrepresented.

Native American, about 2% of our population as a whole is Native American, and 21% identified as Native American.

Um Hispanic, Latino Latina has also underreported about 22% of our population identifies as Hispanic and Latino Latina, and about 7% of our list is is self-reporting that.

Sorry, this is so small, but it gives you some idea of what people are reporting to for physical and mental health conditions and how many conditions they have.

Um so 404 people again of that thousand are reporting they have a mental health disorder.

Um, and then you'll see 282 uh reported chronic health conditions, those are the two, and then physical disability is right in there too.

Um, and then a number of how many conditions there have at the start.

So you see several people have several commodities.

Income.

We also ask about income.

So 34% of the again, that thousand people about had income of some kind.

The largest is Social Security and Social Security Disability, followed by earned income.

That just means that they have a job.

And they're earning income that way.

And then the rest are kind of smaller, smaller amounts there.

Have you found any cases where you can help a person get social security or yes?

So what we started to do years ago is there's a program called SOR.

And if there's ever anyone that wants to donate any money to this, this would be a great thing for our community.

You can get SOAR certified, meaning you can help people that can be on social security disability work through that program way faster.

So if you have that certification, it takes, you know, you might hear people say, I'm trying to get on disability for a year or two.

It can be as short as three to six months.

And so Clara in our office was actually trained and certified, but it's so takes such a significant amount of time.

You really need like a full, probably multiple full-time staff people in our community to be honest, to make a difference.

But that would be a great thing in our community, and it would fill a gap because there's several people that we talk to every day that as a volunteer project.

That really should be on disability.

Volunteer or you know, a paid position in some organization.

But definitely a need here.

And then this is what people self-report to us again, self-reporting of where their last permanent residence was.

So if you look at the map and the responses, it does it's not totally surprising, because a lot of our um subsidized rental units are in these areas.

And if that was their maybe they were on the bubble, they were having a hard time staying housed, they probably are gonna report that that was their last um permanent residence.

That didn't really surprise us.

So the majority downtown, West Side, Midtown, and then we have a few from outside the city, South Sioux City, um, Sergeant Bluff, Lamar's Macy, Winnebago.

So at the end of all this, what what's happened last year?

And it kind of it definitely underscores what we have for resources here when it comes to actual housing.

Um so we had 70 referrals, but keep in mind there were a thousand people on that list at some point throughout the year.

So 70 referrals were made, um 18 were successful, so 18 out of that thousand people that we talked to were housed.

31 were rejected by the client, either they refused whatever service was offered, or they didn't contact them, and 18 were rejected by the provider, they didn't meet some type of requirement.

648 were exited for no contact after 60 days.

We try to keep our list very accurate and clean.

So if we don't hear it, we tell people to check in with us every week.

Um yeah.

So what happens when uh you have your 31 rejected and 18?

What happens?

Then we send them more and more and more referrals until they fill their their spots.

So since there were only 18, that means there were 18 openings in those programs I mentioned earlier.

Um, and so that's why 18 were full.

But yeah, if someone doesn't respond, we're sending them, Claire is sending them new people all the time.

Um, and so we tell people to check in with us every week.

We want to know what they're up to, if they found housing, if they found employment, um, if their phone numbers change, we want to have that contact.

And then 86 people self-resolved, meaning they maybe they start started staying with a with a family member, or they got housing on their own.

Um, so as of today, and our list is ever changing.

Um, we update it every day.

We have 265 people on the list in 217 households.

I just threw this in there because I know there's a lot of always some um curiosity about how that works, but they have to be literally homeless.

Um, they have to be have support where they are going.

Um we say it has to be at least three hours away, and it's one-time assistance, one time or one-way transportation.

So last calendar year, about 25,000 was spent um relocating to 135 people.

So far, this calendar year, we've spent um about 5800 bucks on the relocation of 32 people.

And are those general fund dollars?

Those aren't grant per dollars, correct?

Right, general fund.

Yeah, we don't have a grant that covers that that has that as an eligible expense.

So, kind of my final slide here is what do we what do we do with all this information?

Um, so like I've said before, we just don't have we have wonderful resources here as far as services and things like that, but when it comes to literally housing people, we just don't have a lot of units here.

And so what we've really focused on here in the last six months or so is increased focus on getting resources together for those that are at lit on the list, especially lower on the list.

Those are often people that might have a little income, they just might need a lot of assistance filling out a section eight application, for example, or things like that.

So they'll come into our office, our staff will help with that.

Again, offering the busing.

We also will apply for funds wherever we can get them for projects.

So recent successes was Midtown Terrace.

We partnered on Asher and East High Lofts.

Those are both Lite Tech projects that we put money in as well as a city.

And then we're hoping for some successes coming up, which would be the web apartments.

Um council just approved that letter of understanding.

Um so they're applying for LITEC again.

That's the former um Lamb Theater over in Cook Park.

That would be several affordable units.

Um and then the former Jewish community center.

We are doing some conceptual work right then, and we'll be going after some grant funds for that project too.

Bill, can you back up and uh over what that means with the midtown terrace, the Asher apartments, what it means so many apartments that they dedicate.

Yep, so Midtown Terrace, that was a project um that the mayor actually resurrected a couple years ago.

So um, and we received uh National Housing Trust Fund dollars, and that'll be 24 units total.

17 will be permanent supportive housing, and then seven will be your typical affordable housing units, and then Asher and East High Lofts.

Um Asher is the new building that was built over on the Everett School site, and then East High Lofts was on the old East Junior that was rehabbed.

Um Asher has three units, and East High has five.

So the city put money into that and some of our grant funds into both of those projects, but said, hey, you need to set aside some of these units for those that are transitioning from homelessness.

So that's been really good.

And they've both partnered with um Heartland Counseling to provide case management for those.

Those people that just are getting out of homelessness, get continuum care so that we're helping them to be successful.

They're getting out of it.

Transitional.

Um and then rapid rehousing, that was um ESG funding we just got from the state.

We haven't gotten money from the state to do this before, so that was really exciting.

And that'll provide case management from our staff and up to six months of rental assistance to get them stabilized before we kind of step away and then they pay their rent going forward.

Um, web apartments is a little different.

That's just a typical um we don't have any units that we're setting aside for homelessness, but they all are a hundred fifty-two units, all affordable.

Um, and then the Jewish community center, we are looking at a mix again of permanent supportive housing there and your typical affordable units.

Um, also, we've been very active with the um homeless task force, of course.

We have one staff person that's dedicated to street outreach most of their time.

Um, so they do that with the task force and then also um on their own.

And then um also the homeless court model, like I talked about before, is something new we're trying.

We're always looking for for new ideas and different approaches to try.

So, in a nutshell, I know I provided a ton of information, but I just thought that was good to kind of go over what happened the last year and what does all that mean?

And then if you have more questions, I can definitely do more research on what we have going on.

I do.

Um you feel that agape, once they're built up and running, it's gonna have a significant impact to us as well.

I do, I think that would be I think that's a great thing.

Yeah, they have no place to go.

They'll be able to go to agape, get in that program, stay out of jail, stay off the streets, and it's up to 1,800 months, or 18 months is that.

Yeah, if you see here between um you know, drugs and alcohol, that's a significant percentage of the people that we're talking to.

So, yeah, absolutely.

And that's men's housing strictly starting with men's and then they'll grow to women's one question, one question only on the bus program.

Um that we just put a little more hopefully uh resources for you.

How do they find out about it?

Um we have a sign like posted down at the transit center says, you know, homeless not from here, we can help, free ticket.

I mean, is there anything where we posting like this?

I mean, the uh something that's gonna help point you in the right direction.

Yes, or do you got to stumble upon them?

Well, so we get referrals from agencies all the time, including the warming shelter, and then also the person that works at the Greyhound office walks people down to us quite frequently.

So it's typically he's seeing someone there bringing them down, or the warming shelter, or what other agency has been talking to someone saying, Oh, you're not from here and you want to go home.

Okay.

Would you consider posting something like that in different places or something?

I mean, if we can put up a sign that says don't you know, don't give to the poor.

I mean, yeah, there's key areas we know that there's this is happening.

I mean, I would think it's you know, free ticket home, homeless not from here, you know, free ride, you know, just it and here's how to reach out and starts the dialogue, and then maybe maybe they stay in and get some but get to get the services they need.

Sometimes wonder how do they I think some of these people, if they're cold and they're they get they're stuck here and they don't know and if they knew this was available, call Jill, she's friendly.

You know, I mean, so I mean, you know what I mean?

You know what I mean?

says don't it don't you know don't give to the poor I mean yeah I mean there's key areas we know that there's this is happening I mean I think it's you know free ticket home homeless not from here you know free ride you know just it and here's how to reach out it starts the dialogue and then maybe maybe they stay in it gets in but get to get the services they need sometimes wonder how do they I think some of these people if they're cold and they're they get they're stuck here and they don't know and if they knew this is available called Jill she's friendly you know I mean so I mean you know what I mean you know what I mean yeah I think we just need that I used to say advertise it but we kind of need to advertise it versus I think the only reason we haven't done that in the past because we didn't have as much money um to fund the program so yeah absolutely definitely we'll do that cool good job thank you so much Jill thanks an area enlightening for we before we get off that I don't Mr.

Mayor you help me out on this one the the the kind of the brown stones that are across the street or Julie you've been around the the brownstones that are across the street from the warming shelter I'm I'm not asking a question I don't I don't know the answer but I've that's kind of my route now I'm starting to take that route more can I can you give me an update on what what's this what's the story on the thing okay Darrow King what what they put up a hundred thousand dollar bond and they haven't done a done we're gonna have her all done so let's it doesn't need to be a 20 minute I just just no no it seems like it's just not doing anything worse quickly I've moved forward several times to get that to work towards getting that torn down seems like everybody wants to come ahead right when I'm ready to start tearing it down.

We most recently had that and I asked for a hundred thousand dollars bond this time to make sure that they were very serious about doing that they did provide information for us as far as funding sources and things like that so I was able to bring that back.

However they have failed to move forward to do anything since that time so I do have communication out I'm waiting for a reply back from the owner of the property I'm gonna move they're tagged aren't they oh absolutely yeah yeah they're ordered demolished so uh we gave the a no a 90 day stay of demolition here and it's been about 90 to maybe 120 days ago now ready and so I've reached out to the owners and let them know that I'm going to be moving forward with that demonstration get a bid to get it out.

Yep yeah okay absolutely thank you for that thanks Daryl all right Baker assistant public works directory Cameron Bell pretreatment manager to present on odor um so the agenda will be odor is very complex so we're gonna try to give you the information you're looking for um we're gonna talk about the odors in the city what we currently do lift stations and then some maybe some intermediate options for you to consider so what causes odors in the sewer um so this slide's kind of busy um so just kind of focus your attention there where it says H2S being less than one is low and greater than 10 is high uh Sioux City has numerous spots where it's 10 and several spots that's hundred parts per million and then the DDT um is a fancy way of it's a scientific way of telling you the strength of wastew or a smell and so of course less than 200 is low and greater than 2,000 is high and Siou City has numerous sources of 5000 and sometimes the scale went all the way up to 600,000 when we did some testing.

And of course the major concerns are uh safety to staff public um community impacts and then of course our infrastructure um it comes from organic waste the loading is that plant what those measurements taken from we actually send in samples through Hazen through our facility plan what or were they collecting all over I'm remembering that so what our current approach to odor control is uh this is Cameron is in charge of the uh odor control contract and making sure they uh meet the requirements of their contract as well as the industrial regulations um so these are all of our dosing sites um we have them there at Riverside Bridgeport Highway 75 we use a Solfalox which is a proprietary iron product and then there's other dosing locations there Cunningham which is that Floyd lift station the wastewater treatment plant in York which is down by that ball field and we inject uh hydrogen peroxide um we do have a couple of industry industry people and sister cities that also inject chemicals but there's the gallon totals for chemicals of 2025 there on the screen so the city spent 662000 just on odor control at those uh dosing sites last year go ahead um currently we also cover our primary clarifiers those are the uh tanks that we're currently fixing with that ARPA money um because of the high strength waste going through those tanks we also have foul order fans on the headworks building and as well as a biological system in headworks it's undersized and it's not operating as design so it's really not doing anything.

But those the back to that yep not that s the last one the where you had no backwards.

That one.

So is it is so your usage is based on the gallons of what goes through each one of those lift stations?

Right.

So that's how many gallons of those chemicals that we actually put into the system.

Yep.

And so, like Floyd was 17,775 gallons of hydrogen peroxide in 2025.

Is that because that's bigger than say highway 75 or no?

It's it's the odor control company.

It has uh through their studies and having the contract, they've determined that's the proper chemical for those sites.

And so they owe all the infrastructure or what's being padded to them, right?

Up in high level.

Yeah, it's based on what's kind of going in there.

Yeah.

So they the contract company also owns all of the flow meters and the tanks that sit there, so they own all that capital as well.

Go ahead.

Keep going one more.

Okay, so after phase after phase one improvements, so this is Hazen did a odor dispersion modeling through a lot of our odor control sampling.

Um after phase one improvements, it's it's projected to reduce odors 20 from 26 right right now, 26% of hours in a five-year modeling period.

You can detect an odor.

So after phase one, it's projected to only detect 0.1%.

And so that's the the rain, the map there that you see.

So that's that scale of D to T that I talked about on the first couple of slides.

Um, so the red, the orange, the yellow.

That's how far those odors would will disperse after phase one.

So Vicky I thought about this after you presented this on Saturday, this slide in particular.

Yeah.

And I was thinking about the contract as we're putting it out the bid and the construction of this.

Do we have any reach back guarantees or do we have anything we can put in into what we're building that we can reach these things?

I mean, I mean, does that make any sense?

I'm not quite fair.

These are stand these are these are what they're telling us.

What's the penalties if they build it and it doesn't do this?

Which is what Mr.

Mayor always says happens, right?

Is it they they promise they promise, and then it doesn't do what it say it's gonna do.

But I think it's I think let's open up our minds as this is we're in this new process do other communities do that, or is there I'm not sure you'd have to go back on the engineer, right?

Is there I don't know, is there penalties on if you're not producing what you say it's gonna do?

It's not doing what's supposed to do.

Let's I mean it's just open our minds to that.

Anyway, that's keep going, sorry.

No, you're fine.

I think also on Saturday you said it's just a matter of money.

Well, for chemicals, yeah.

It is a matter of money.

Okay, so phase one there on your screen now is the upgrades.

Um so the bluish purple, whatever color that is.

Um that's improved ventation, those fans, um, odor control removal in that building.

Um the red is our high odor processing um places in the plant.

So that's instead of the rectangular clarifiers with phase with the new plant, we're gonna have circular ones.

So we're gonna pull the airs off, pull the odors off of that, and then of course a couple of the other buildings.

The green is there, we're not getting any odors from that side of the plant.

That's the secondary process, that's the final steps.

And then the orange is where the new systems for this odor control are gonna go in those locations there.

And this is kind of what the systems will look like.

They're biological, they also have activated carbon.

Um, they also have a 30-foot exhaust stack.

Um, so of course it will go up and further disperse.

And this the price of these systems will be uh 30 to 35 million of that phase one cost right now.

So we'll have the smaller si the bigger system will be on the front half, and then that smaller system will be to pull some other orders, odors in the plant.

So are those firm numbers or still subject to well, that's the design numbers.

Yeah.

All right, so also we tasked our engineers to look at our heavy um, what we feel is our heavy odor area lift stations, and also where we get a lot of the complaints from.

Um so outside of this project, we have asked Hazen to also look at what we would need to do at these places.

So Riverside Lift Station, the Floyd Lift Station there on I-29, and then York.

Um we the vapor phase system needs to go at some of them, liquid phase and vapor phase needs to go at some of them.

Your liquid phase will be your chemicals, um, and your vapor phase would be the system I just showed you.

So a liquid phase system is not currently what we use, it's a different system that we're thinking about.

Um so that's outside of the project, um, but we're expected for vapor phase and 95% reduction in odors at those lift stations.

But we're expected for vapor phase and 95% reduction in odors at those lift stations.

So again, the same systems would go there for that vapor phase treatment, the biological filters with the carbon and then the exhaust stacks.

And then the next slide.

All liquid phase things are for downstream treatment.

Vapor phase is for at that specific site.

So we plan on installing that at well, part of the pet go back one more.

We plan a Floyd and York for those superox.

And so the next slide is the trial we ran.

So we ran this trial to try to mimic what that super oxygenation system is going to do.

And it actually came out, and all we did was dose with a whole bunch of hydrogen peroxide over the course of a week.

Cameron and his team led that um study.

And it showed exactly what it what we were what the engineers were hoping it would do, and basically proves that we can put superoxygenation at that lift station and that we should get reduced odors downstream.

Again, it won't it won't help the the smell at Floyd.

That's why we're also putting the biological filter because the biological filter will help at the smell at Floyd.

The superoxygenation helps downstream.

So that's where that additional cost would come in.

Right now we spend, like I said, $55,000 a month.

If we were to do this, we would need 150,000 per month.

Basically, is that's what that study was that we talked about on Saturday.

Go ahead.

All right, other options.

Um of course, you know, sewer plants smell, but we also want to be um very good neighbors, so we're doing our best.

Um fixing the primaries will help.

Also the digester project with the high strength waste injection system is gonna help.

Staff does not recommend you could shut off hauled waste, hold waste.

Uh we are uh we are a huge help to the to the haulers in our community by taking that hold waste and also outside the community to get rid of that organic waste.

So that is an option to cut that off again, and we do not recommend that.

And then um further regulation.

What's that?

Where would they go?

Some used to go to the landfill.

Um they'd have to some go to Des Moines.

No, yeah.

Um we've actually actually take trucks.

Well, the DNR will call us and be like, hey, can you take it?

It's because there's small communities.

We want to be have waste.

Yes.

Yeah.

No, there's wastewater plants.

I get quite a few calls from the DNR asking for places in our region if we can take stuff because even the smaller communities can't take the waste.

So weep.

We can take what we want.

And then, of course, you can further you can we can update code for further um industrial upsets and things like that, putting the burden back on, you know, the if they cause the odor.

Um but otherwise.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

So we take inseptic waste is the one flat fee, and then uh the hold waste comes in and it's based on flow and Cameron's team again, they do all the billing, and uh the lab does the sampling for all of that.

Um so yeah, it's a tiered structure based on pollutants.

But I think that's it.

You have any questions about the contract or oh, and uh the contract, it was uh I believe a five-year contract with two one-year extensions that last we're on that last extension, right?

And so odor control venture.

Yeah, so we will that will expire June 30th.

So we will be bringing forward um a new option, maybe stay with the current.

But we're gonna bid that contract up.

We are gonna bid it out.

Yep.

The last time we uh bid it out, we actually ran trials and we got um we actually had people pilot their chemicals and we bid it out.

There was I think four people that were interested, but then only three people ended up bidding back, and uh the bids were uh U.S.

peroxide was significantly lower than the other bids.

So any questions?

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Measures performance if it's I mean the odor measure.

If it's I mean the voter measure.

Yeah.

I mean, that's what I'm saying is that when this contract gets drawn up, we go through the week.

Gentlemen.

Hello.

Good evening.

Um we don't have anything as exciting or sophisticated as superoxygenation to talk about.

We'll do our best.

I wasn't sure I could say it.

Uh a few things about um the permit process.

As you know, we are continuing to work on upgrading our our software and doing a di uh really going to a different system altogether.

Uh we did have a meeting uh uh conference call today with the Central Square, that's the software provider.

And with our IT department, um they did uh Central Square did um select a different a new project manager.

So this was our first opportunity to talk to the new project manager.

Uh and um we're in the phase right now, probably for the next two weeks, is a lot of technical work going on.

They're installing the software, they're you uh doing a test environment because this involves payments online and so on, very similar to what we do for utilities, but a little bit different, and that's being done over the next two weeks.

And at the end of that, or probably sometime next week, we've requested for a firmer uh timeline for the steps after that, which would be um the first after the everything is installed and tested, then we will uh move to the configuration phase, and that's when our team gets back together and talks about the particular details and how it will look and what how it will function.

And then when that's in uh completed, then we will move to the training of the staff.

Uh all everyone involved with permitting, everyone involved with uh zoning um inspections and so on will be trained on that software.

So we're really looking forward to that.

It's taking longer than uh than I guess we would have liked, but it is pretty complicated to integrate that into the software the city already owns.

And so um the other thing was we continue to provide you with these reports.

Um I think we we've talked a little bit about improving the look formatting of these are a little a little hard to read, you know, they get so detailed.

But um and and of course, when we have the software up and running and we'll be able to generate reports from that.

But if you have any questions about what the most you know, we're doing this weekly.

Um Darrell Daryl is here, of course, and he can uh answer any specific questions.

We've we've been in a period of time where we haven't had as many, you know, it's a little slow time of the year, but it's starting to pick up now.

So we'll be looking harder at how that goes and and with the increase in permits.

It always happens at this time of year when people get ready to to build.

So we've had a over a dozen.

I would say there's probably been 14 to 16 that have actually come in this last week, and we do have a vacation coming out, so we're gonna work really hard on trying to get all those knocked out prior to uh the vacation for the plants examer coming up.

Um looks like we're in pretty good pace to do that.

Uh we are waiting for uh bond on a couple of them, things like that.

But other than that, I think they're going through pretty good.

It uh the you know it's after that first couple weeks of you know, it was kind of intense and a lot of finger pointing and all that good stuff.

I do think we're seeing progress because I only reason I know that is because the text messages that I'm getting from um some of the developers and stuff.

And there's an element of excitement out there that that we're changing.

They're excited, you know, that's we're getting there.

Um my fear is uh you know, we don't get complacent, but things are we're gonna get busy and and uh I know you're focused on Daryl.

I know you are.

And uh I do appreciate it.

Let's let's get them up let's get it to the field.

Slowest to the fastest, also the friendliest customer service, get it to the field, get it to the field inspectors.

I do have a couple of projects that I really are a little concerned about.

We're not getting a lot of feedback from the people that have made the application.

So we've actually asked if we can put those on hold status if they're till they're ready to move forward.

Um I'm actually going to reach out to one of them because I'm a little concerned that um they're not actually understanding everything we're looking for, and it's a lot simpler than I think they're trying to make it.

So we'll be making some of those meetings like we've talked about in our first initial presentation.

Um reaching out to them and uh being a little more proactive in that response.

Great.

Thanks, guys.

Yeah.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Council concerns.

No, I just I always appreciate the updates that we're getting provided.

And I I mean I do feel like we're gonna have a little wind at our back when it comes to the economic development side of it.

Um I just want to continue to urge the uh the builders and potential uh investors or potential developers, if they're feeling any any un unreasonable resistance to please reach out to this council or me personally.

Um and listen that we can help because you know we have goals, we want to be um the worst worst to the first.

Um I also I talked about this on on uh on Saturday.

I want to make sure the media picks this up that I want to Julie gave me a look on Saturday.

I thought it was gonna you know look to kill, but yeah, I want to compliment uh Craig and and Ike uh this new council and the success we've had with snow removal this uh since we've we've joined.

Um we're under budget and uh we've done an amazing job with snow removal since we've uh joined the council, so we will take full credit for that.

And exactly how many snow events have we had?

So uh other than that, Mr.

Mayor, it's been a good week.

I think it was destiny that we weren't gonna have any snow because I know that uh the guys asked if we would sit in the the trucks and and go out at three in the morning, and I said absolutely, and they haven't called yet.

So um just two very quick things.

Had to reach out to do a tour of the the new distillery, and so Gabby's gonna work with them to get us all coordinated on an event for the distillery, and then I'm just gonna ask Mike to follow up on Saturday during his presentation.

We had made comments about whether there was an appetite to look at a new logo for the for the city, and um so I'm just gonna ask Mike to maybe follow up with that and get some direction.

If there's not an appetite amongst the council, I get it.

If there is, then I'll work with Mike and his team to start uh working through a program.

That's it.

Thank you.

Nope, nothing.

I don't have anything either.

I think that we kind of cleared the air on a lot of matters today.

I think we got through a lot.

Appreciate the council, both new and old.

I believe we're all one, Mr.

Bertrand.

That's all I have.

I just want to take a minute why the TV's still running to thank this community that's a little tough to read the way you reached out to my family the last couple weeks.

So thank you all for that.

Thank you for your patience that I wasn't here.

So I move we adjourn.

Second Shanner, I fat.

Ernstein.

Hi.

Bertran.

Rayford.

Aye.