So I'd like to reporting in progress.

Yes, I'd like to call this regular meeting of the South San Francisco City Council for February the 25th to order, and we'll begin with a roll call.

Councilmember Coleman.

Here.

Councilmember Flores.

Present.

Council Member Nicholas.

Present.

Vice Mayor Nogales.

Here.

Mayor Adiego.

Here.

And I'd like to invite.

I've selected somebody from the audience tonight who wasn't prepared, but I think he's going to come through for us.

Miguel Chavez with Life Moves is here and has agreed to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.

So if you would all stand.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

One nation under God indivisible in liberty.

Well done, Miguel.

So what you learn in grade school still came through for you tonight.

Thank you, Mayor.

Moving on to agenda review.

We have no recommended changes to the agenda.

Excellent.

Thank you.

Moving on, does the council have any Levine Act disclosures?

Does the council have any conflicts to report tonight?

It wouldn't appear that they do.

Thank you.

Moving on to announcements from staff.

We have one announcement this evening, and uh Lieutenant Amy Seriati will be presenting that about our women in safety.

Good evening, Mr.

Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of council.

As you know, I'm Amy Seriati, a lieutenant with the police department, and I'm excited to talk to you about an upcoming event we have planned on Saturday, March 28th, from 9 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

at the South San Francisco Police Department community room.

We are hosting a women in public safety workshop in partnership with the South San Francisco Fire Department.

This event was an idea brought forward by Councilmember Flora Nicholas, who recognized the need to create more pathways for women in public safety careers, and who championed this plate, this taking event.

Sorry, this event taking place during women's history month, which is March.

The workshop is specifically designed for women who are either exploring a career in public safety or have ideas of changing their career path and policing or fire service.

Participants will practice interview skills, learn how to prepare for a physical agility test, hear real life stories for women in service right now, and tour our police and fire facilities.

And this effort aligns with our broader commitment to representation of our community, uh workforce development, and strengthening our public safety departments within our city.

And space is limited, so we are asking participants who are interested to register via our QR code on our flyer.

They can also go on the website at www.ssfca.gov slash women public safety workshop, and we're excited to see what new members we can bring to our community.

That's really thank you, Lieutenant Storoti.

How many of you hope to be part of the workshop?

Um we hope at least 20 for this first time so that we can gauge timing.

Um so far we already have six registrants and we had just posted the event on event bright last week.

So we got some time to get more registrants.

I'm sure councilwoman Nicholas will continue to help you get some recruits.

You're not considering a career change, are you?

Too late, yeah.

If only, right?

Thank you.

Thank you, mayor.

We'll now move on to presentations.

Item number one is a presentation on the new business advocates supporting small businesses with location support.

Good evening, Mr.

Lucero.

Good evening.

Uh Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Members.

Ernesto Lucero, I'm the economic development manager.

I'm here this evening to announce the uh new business advocates program, and this is supporting small businesses expand or successfully open a new location in South San Francisco.

I'll say that South San Francisco has always been a welcoming and business friendly city, supporting small business.

Uh we just want to expand on that priority a little bit by creating a process to help streamline small business inquiries when expanding into another brick and mortar location or support uh new business ventures opening a new location in South San Francisco.

Our purpose with the new business advocates program is that we've created a one-stop uh process that will uh support small business with the liaison staff.

Uh, from I if somebody just has an idea all the way to the ribbon cutting, uh, we want to handhold them through that whole process essentially.

High level, we want to reduce the time a business takes to understand permits, zoning, or necessary steps, and in the end save the business money as time is money.

Uh a major roadblock uh that we want to untangle is catching a business before they sign a lease.

So that happens too way too often.

Oftentimes economic development staff really only gets involved uh when a business may already have signed a lease, they didn't understand the due diligence process that was needed, or they've already spent significant funds or time and uh or energy into a specific space that was not gonna work for them.

Some of the most common inquiries we receive include um is that space zoned for what I want to do?

Do I need to install sprinklers?

Uh I don't understand how to become more compliant with ADA upgrades.

Uh do I need to update restrooms?

What's what is a change of use?

I'm trying to open this summer, for example, and I don't know where to begin.

Um what kind of permits do I need?

Do I even need a business license?

We hear we kind of hear all those inquiries.

Uh, like many cities, uh, the business may be sent to multiple departments to get those questions answered, and oftentimes the business is already running another business, and then they get lost in that process as time and money compounds their their challenges.

So we've now formalized the process a little, um, giving it a name and pointing small businesses to a quick form to fill out and a phone number to call for assistance.

So the new business advocates program will be led by economic development staff, serving as the business liaison and handholding the business throughout the entire process at whatever stage of the process they're at.

Through our economic advancement center, we've helped nearly 2400 businesses or 2400 people find a job or start a business, and then we now want to help uh now that they've started the business, we want to help ensure that they're actually open that business here in South San Francisco.

So here's the process, pretty simple.

Uh we just will heavily promote this service uh to existing small businesses through the EAC through the Chamber of Commerce, as well as our permit center.

A small business interested in uh support that you can just scan our QR code.

We have some flyers in the back of the of the room.

We'll get this on our website tomorrow.

And uh we'll also acquire uh any individuals that are going through our launch local program to follow this process as well because those are really the most the most vulnerable businesses that are just getting started.

Uh we'll then meet with the business to understand their needs, answer any high-level questions.

Uh, depending on the level of inquiry, uh, economic development staff could bring this business to our the city's uh technical advisory group, the tag group, and that meets monthly.

And uh there they can just get some of the questions answered after all the departments in the room and hopefully kind of streamline that process.

Um the business really appreciates this type of uh meeting where they can get everything answered uh quickly.

And uh throughout this process, like I said, uh the economic development staff will be advocating for the business all the way to hopefully the ribbon cutting, and then we can kind of hand them off to the chamber of commerce or uh some other entity to help promote what they what they do as they open.

Uh I'll just also mention that I shared this with this uh chamber of commerce and their board of directors, and they believe it's gonna be a really big asset to selling South San Francisco as a as a business-friendly um city, excuse me.

So, with that, we just wanted to announce the program to the council.

Uh, this has really been something uh personally that I've implemented in other cities in my career, and it's just um kind of the low-hanging fruit, doesn't really cost anything.

It just makes us a little bit more business friendly.

So, so we're here to help.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ernesto.

Let's see.

Any comments or any questions for Ernesto?

I I think it's it's uh given what else you've been working on, the economic center and and the um the um the other the other group where we put people into um low rent, what was it called?

The program we have.

The long program, local, yes.

So, really, this is like the third leg of that um that stool of of uh help for people.

Business is daunting enough before you even get to city hall, so yeah, it's uh be interesting to see.

Thank you for the idea.

Thank you.

Moving on to council comments request.

Um I'm gonna lead off because I wanted to um make note of um three people that have passed away in the last couple of weeks, and um I know each of their families.

So the first was um a gentleman by the name of uh Geraldo Valentino Maltoni.

So Aldo, as he was known uh to his friends, was a longtime um supermarket manager for a company that no longer exists, uh, Brentwood Markets was a locally owned company uh that uh sold out um decades ago to uh Safeway.

And uh he was um uh uh just a real fine uh individual when I first went to work for that company as a very young man.

Um he was he was welcoming and um uh he was just a really pleasant personality.

For a time, he and his wife were well known in the community.

Gloria Maltoni, who who survives him, was a um branch manager of Bayview Bank.

That also is gone, but Bayview Bank was big on Grand Avenue, where the economic advancement center is, and she was very involved in both the Chamber of Commerce and also the Art and Wine Festival.

She really was kind of a key.

Her and Aldo uh did some great things for uh town.

So he um passed away on February the second.

He was just a month shy of what would have been his 94th birthday.

So he lived a wonderful life, and um he's someone that uh it was just um a pleasure to know him.

Um, a couple of days later, on February 4th, um Ivania Bustos uh passed away, and that's the wife of everybody knows Juan Bustos, and um, you know, another wonderful family that's involved in so many things in the community, and you know uh a man like Juan can't be so involved unless he has somebody behind him who's um you know keeping things running at the family level.

So she was a very strong woman, and um, and the family um will miss her greatly.

And then um a woman who was mentioned last year when uh Mayor Flores did the um uh for the women's month.

Uh I think he picked some women that he awarded for their contributions to the community.

One of them was Julia Garberino Ramos, and God bless you for remembering her a year ago because she is gone now.

She made it to 104 years old, and um uh if you know her history, she was just a delightful person, and that's why um the Ramos Martinelli family is so special, is because of that woman.

So those were three spectacular people, and town is a little sadder without them in our in our uh everyday lives.

So um now I'll turn it back to the council, but I just wanted to make note of those three special people.

So who would like to start off tonight?

Would you?

Yeah.

No, I I um I would like to echo your memorializing Delia Garbarine Ramos, who passed away last February 21st at the age of 104.

She and her husband Chris Ramos are uh very well-known couple at Osul's and how devoted they were to each other and their family.

Her life was well lived, living behind two daughters, um Tina Prieto and Linda Martinelli, seven grandchildren, one of which was our former city clerk, uh Christa Martinelli, and 15 great grandchildren.

So we started the month of February by raising the Black Lives Matter flag at City Hall with Mayor Adiego and Council Member Coleman with our community members, and that was a really great opportunity uh for most of our community members to be there.

And even Mayor Adiego treated some people for lunch.

I didn't go have a meeting.

But he brought me um to go.

Yes, thank you.

That same evening, the What is Love Art Show had an opening, and what a great event was that.

The sing along with the South City Folk Jam was an absolute hit.

We would like, I'm really looking forward to next year's.

Congratulations to the Parks and Recreation staff and the Cultural Arts Commission for a very, very well attended evening.

The following day, another super event was the Lunar New Year celebration, and kudos to the library staff for a very very well-run uh event.

Vice Mayor Negales' request to have the lion dancers outside was wonderful.

We didn't have to bring our earplugs, and everyone had fun.

It is unfortunate that some of our residents were inconvenienced by many who parked at the Safeway parking instead of the MSB.

But our library staff really, really tried very hard to send them over to the MSB parkings parking lot.

Congratulations also to the Asian American Recovery Services for their 40th anniversary.

It's a Bay Area pioneer in culturally grounded behavioral health care, which continues to advocate and strengthen our Asian American native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander community.

They are our partners in putting together the sister-to-sister leadership conference annually.

Mayor Adiego, Captain Plank, and I attended the e-bike town hall held in Redwood City, hosted by supervisors Jack Spear and Ray Miller.

And we would like to support the regulation of e-bikes to ensure our safety here in our community.

Last year I also attended last year, no, last week, I attended the magnet recognition program uh site visit at Kaiser Permanente.

And Magnet recognition is the highest national honor for nursing excellence and achieved only by less than 10% of hospitals worldwide.

On that early morning of February 17th, I welcomed the Magnet Upracers on behalf of the City Council.

And on February 19th, I joined several community partners who shared in person the incredible work that our Kaiser nurses are doing to improve access prevention and health outcomes to our community.

I described to the appraisers how our ongoing partnership with them on the annual drive flu shot clinic and other collaborations showed their community leadership.

There were other community stakeholders there who highlighted their real life experiences.

In connection with the Black History Month, we are also showing a film series of America soundtrack, and tomorrow tomorrow will be the last.

She is my constant partner.

And we have been enjoying the community members, library staff, and of course the popcorn they offer.

Thanks to Felicia and London.

Sincere thanks to Jim McGuire and the authority board for presenting me with a plaque for the 16 years I spent with them.

Most of all, I will miss the camaraderie of the group.

And then last but not the least, I would like to congratulate ECD and all the other departments that put together the widely successful lunar new year night market last Friday.

It was truly a fun event that brought again our community together.

Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you.

Or for that wrap-up of all the events.

Maybe the Vice Mayor would like to go next.

Thank you.

Um I join my colleagues in recognizing the individuals who recently passed.

Um I've known the the boostos families over the years, playing baseball.

The boostos are really, really big in baseball and community.

So my prayers are with everyone.

Just to reiterate, um, I want to thank staff uh for all their great work for the various lunar new year events.

Uh, started off uh with the lunar new year celebration here at LPNR.

And I really want to thank uh library staff and the volunteers who uh who uh based upon my nice suggestion but doing it outside, and and because really uh it was kind of it was really great just to see like all these kids just sitting on the grass and their families and them just like having a great time watching the line dancers and thank goodness the weather really was really great that day.

And then that was followed by the lunar new year night market, and we had over 2,000 people attend, and um, and I was able to say a few words and the line dancers, but you know, the there were food vendors, and it was like you know, the on Maple, it was just so packed.

Um, and I it's just it was so great to see.

And you know, even our uh our new city manager spoke, and something I learned that she can speak Chinese, which I didn't know.

Um another piece of the puzzle, I'd say.

Uh, but it was a great event again.

Thank you to everyone involved in there.

Uh this morning uh um all of us were um uh at uh the youth and government breakfast, and for those who um don't know or familiar with it, it's it's a it's a great um uh kind of learning experience for our high school students about how you can involve in your local community and special local government.

And it was started about 43, 42 years ago by a former mayor, Gene Mullen.

And it really brings a lot of these kids from South San Francisco to learn about the various departments and even shadow uh members of the city council.

And um, even our own James Coleman was a participant in that, and look where he is now, a council member on the dais, and our own assistant city manager also was there back in 1996.

Um, and now I get the boss on the round so um but it I as I told the group that you know uh this is a great opportunity for you to learn what's happening in in your city and take a full advantage of this opportunity because you never know where it might lead you.

Uh I want to thank also for staff to help uh who helped help organize my town hall um up in Westboro a few weeks ago.

We had about 40 to 50 residents attend, and they really brought up a lot of great questions.

I want to thank staff who were there to help answer various individual questions and inquiries about their neighborhoods.

And I've I've done a town hall every year since I've been in office.

This I've always appreciated the the individuals that come out and bring issues to the forefront, and we've been able to uh solve a lot of those issues because of the interactions uh at the town hall.

Uh lastly, uh the mayor and I we uh we were joined by various council members and mayors at the city manager, sorry, the county manager.

It's not really county manager, so like the county executive officer, Mike Kalki.

Um, and we were and they discussed the the vehicle license fee, and we're all familiar with what's happening there and how the state is basically hijacking our our money, and this is really detrimental to all cities, especially us, because the that money that we rightly deserve would fill a big hole um in our structural deficits.

So it's it's an issue that I know that all of us have been tracking and have been advocating to ensure that all of San Mateo County is uh receives that money.

And there they also talked about uh homeless services and affordable housing, and they highlighted um kind of South San Francisco as as the leaders in those issues, and that was something that I was really, really proud of.

So with that, Mr.

Mayor, that's all I had.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mark.

Um, next uh councilman Flores.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um appreciate it's been uh a very busy uh last few weeks in all levels.

Um the really uh amazing thing I would say about this council is that we we divide in concurrent, and conquer.

And some of us are at the local level and participating here, others are at the regional level looking at other things.

I wanted to start off um early in February, it was announced um through our congressman, former mayor, uh uh Kevin Mullen.

Uh his office announced that 12.7 million in community project funding was secured that will go directly toward an array of projects here in his district.

South San Francisco was also benefiting for that from that.

We will receive uh 850,000 for the Westboro Early Childhood Education Center.

So I wanted to acknowledge and thank the Congressman uh for his work for all the cities representing his district, but of course for his hometown as well.

Um there have been uh announcements also uh coming out, um, in particular uh from the Samateo US 101 Express Lanes.

Um, and this is uh kind of a general public announcement for those that need help paying for transportation.

The San Mateo US 101 Express Lanes is sponsoring and funding the go-card program for qualifying residents in San Mateo County.

Eligible participants will receive a $200 prepaid card that can be used for public transit for toll bridges for express lanes up and down 101, paratransit, or bike and scooter rentals.

The card works with providers like BART, Caltrain, Sam Trans, Clipper, Bay Wheels, Lyme, Amtrak, and many more.

Uh so who qualifies?

Uh well, you need to be a resident of San Mateo County, 18 years or older, and have an income at or below the 60% of the area medium income, which is about uh 82,000 a year for a one-person household.

So, what you need to apply to be able to uh get this is a photo ID, proof of residency, proof of income, and an email address, and you can also go to our local uh core agency, which is the YMCA, or call them directly, or of course look up uh the Samateo US 101 Express Lanes.

Again, it's a $200 uh prepaid card, and this benefit will benefit a lot of our community.

Um I sit on the CCAG uh board.

The CCAG is the counties and cities association of government.

So all 20 cities in the county as well as the county are represented um on this board.

And what I wanted to provide is that um there's something called TDM.

For those of folks that don't understand what that acronym is, is transportation demand management, which is sometimes referred as travel demand management or traffic demand management, which is essentially how do we hold accountable new developers from uh not increasing uh vehicles on the road or single occupancy individuals driving up and down.

Um, and what I wanted to point out is again South San Francisco leading um and and really putting this forward.

The CCAG TDM policy is used by most jurisdictions in the county, right?

So there's a percentage and number that we have to meet.

However, it is encouraged that cities prepare and adopt their own TDM policies because cities are are better at knowing and enforcing them.

So the CCAC TDM policy can exempt the city if that city has a TDM policy equal to or greater than the CCAG TDM policy in terms of overall trip reduction.

And I'm happy to say that at the CCAG meeting recently, South San Francisco was acknowledged and recognized that the executive director of CCAG actually signed off that now South San Francisco has a TDN exemption.

What does this mean?

It means that our we have overall uh higher trip reduction requirements for many of our projects, um, development projects here in South San Francisco, and uh I know this council always looks at that ratio at that number, and I'm proud to say that this city continues to uh set the example by providing a particular uh TDM policy on that level.

As well, I wanted to start the conversation.

I know we've had this preliminary conversation with uh the city manager.

There's a lot happening um in terms of the legislative world, the policy world, what that translates to all of you as as uh members of the public and resident, is a ballot coming up in November of this year, as you know, as an election year, that is going to have a lot of ballot measures.

Um, and I wanted to start the conversation with this council that we can pay at closer attention to many of the bills moving across um uh the state legislature, as well as other things that we could look at.

Um, for example, ballot measures and bills.

Um, many of you might have heard it on the news or read it in the newspaper that there is potential discussion of closing South San Francisco BART station.

That's right.

It's not something that we were hearing or whatnot.

This was voted by the BART board recently, this month of February, as well as nine other stations, as early as January of 2027, should a ballot measure or additional funding, I should say, not deemed successful.

These are all things that are hitting us, directly impacting our residents.

So I think it's important that we as a council start monitoring this as it evolves.

The other thing that I wanted to um make uh mention of is uh air quality and climate reduction funds.

As many of you know, uh Prop 4, which was the climate uh bond measure passed in November 2024, and this is potentially $10 billion in bonds to fund climate resilience, natural resource protection and infrastructure, and also improve air quality.

What does that mean for my district?

My district, as you know, has probably the poorest air quality in the San Francisco, being that we're right next to 101.

So I would like to start looking at what funds we could have for uh mediation, a remediation uh for air quality so that we could look into that.

So more on this, but uh again, also there's another one you were mentioning um homelessness and uh unhoused funds.

There's a bill right now in the legislature to bring back more authority, more power to local cities and not necessarily the county, so that we could have funds and how to appropriate and better manage homelessness uh issues in our local area.

So lots of stuff that is moving along, and for sure we want to be um well versed, and I know that our our staff team as well as our lobbyist team will will do justice on that.

Um, on a more somber note, I I today I also want to take a moment uh to recognize um, of course, join my colleagues in the mayor, uh Delia Garbino Ramos and the Martinelli family, and uh Bonnie Bustos and Juan Bustos.

You know, he has a terrific, wonderful nonprofit organization.

Many of you might have heard, might not know, is called um Baseball Without Borders, essentially providing baseball gear, bats, baseball, to uh many uh small towns in central America, including Nicaragua and other countries.

This grew out of his passion to be able to serve and his passion for baseball as well.

So my deepest condolences to the Bustos families, to the Barbarino Ramos Martinelli family as well, but also wanted to recognize the life and legacy of Reverend Jesse Jackson.

Um for decades, he was a prominent voice in the ongoing work for civil rights, voter participation, and economic justice in this country through national leadership, advocacy, and community organizing, he influenced public dialogue and helped expand opportunities for many Americans.

Uh so I wanted to honor mentioning, bringing his name to light, his lifelong commitment to service and extend our respect to all who were shaped by his work and his example.

That's all I have.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Very nice.

Thank you, Councilman.

And last but not least, Councilman Colin.

Thank you.

Um, where should I start?

So the youth and government breakfast, always great.

Um great to see this year's cohort of maybe the youth who want to um learn more about our government, especially since local government has the most direct impact in people's lives, and we definitely want to be um inspiring our youth not just to, I guess, pay attention to what's happening nationally, but really pay attention to what's happening locally.

Um I believe a couple weeks ago, um, a report was released about BART, basically, as you all know, BART and many of our transit agencies are facing a fiscal cliff.

And what BART released was basically a worst-case scenario if they do not find funding to uh meet their fiscal cliff, that they would be closing um about a dozen stations throughout the Bay Area, including South San Francisco, including San Bruno and Colma and Milbrae in over the course of two phases.

And you know, we we did get state funding that came in recently, which will hold us up until I believe the beginning of 2027.

But there needs to be a permanent solution to funding our transit agencies, not just BART, right?

FART came out with the report, but we can be looking at drastic cuts in service to Caltrain and Sam Trans and Muni as well.

I did one post on social media, right?

I just posted on the story on my Instagram, and just that one post got me 40 replies from residents in South San Francisco and around the county asking how they can help.

And what that made me realize is there are a lot of folks who don't understand the dire straits that we are in right now when it comes to our transit systems.

Because if we allow BART to fail, one, that means people cannot get to work.

They cannot go to the hospital, they cannot visit their family members, they're more likely to stay home and not go around and you know um spend money at local businesses.

And that also means that there's gonna be more cars on the roads, right?

We're already sick of the traffic on 101 and 280, it will only get worse.

And so letting our transit systems fail is absolutely not an option.

Um I think that the one thing that our city should be doing is providing community education.

I know there are some solutions out there in the community, uh, potentially a ballot measure, um, potentially other initiatives meant to um increase the efficiency of BART and other operating systems.

Uh and I think it's incumbent upon us when the time is right to go out in the community to host community events, maybe town halls, and let folks know uh you know what we stand to lose if we do not find a solution to this to this crisis.

Um I'm thinking about you know, not just measures but also um how we can build the demand uh for our transit systems, right?

One thing that we talk about when we talk about the need for housing is well, let's put it near BART and Caltrain, right?

Because then those folks are not increasing traffic and congestion throughout the city, but they're using uh our transit systems to uh get from place to place.

But the second reason why we want to build near transit is because we are building the demand to use a transit system so that we don't have to go to the ballot over and over and over again for taxes, it should be uh the the customers that that continue to sustain the transit systems that we all rely on.

And so I hope we can do that.

Um, one thing that I have talked to our city staff, I mentioned this uh a couple of months back, but I brought it up to my to the city manager earlier this morning is looking at SB 79, because SB 79 up zones areas uh around transit stations, but they also uh allow for cities and localities to create local zoning plans uh to shift densities in a way that makes sense.

And so I hope that we can look at that because SB 79 does go into effect on July 1st, and I believe that we should uh take a look at it uh before and see if if SB 79 as it is makes sense for South City, or if we should shift a density around and um make sure it works well uh for our community.

Um next item, a little more lighthearted.

Uh I did have a resident reach out and you know kind of bumping off of the sticker contest that we hosted uh in South City a couple years ago, right?

We fielded um we fielded uh art from local artists to submit uh their designs for a sticker that we then printed and and gave out.

Uh there is a request in the community that we create an I voted sticker, put it on the community, democratize it, uplift uh a local artist, and then we can give it out um at our polling location right here in in South City.

So I hope uh we can put that together and uplift some more of our local artists here, and that is all.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councilman.

Um I just wanted to um uh mention two items.

Uh the first was covered by um councilwoman uh Nicholas because we were uh together at the e-bike um seminar that Jackie Spear and and uh Ray Moore put together, um, and it occurred on the day after the young man in Half Boom Bay um had um died in a terrible accident when he was riding his e-bike along the shoulder.

Um tonight on the way in, I was talking to a young man that was unlocking his scooter in the garage of the covered garage, and um he had no helmet and um he uh was going to make his way home, and obviously at six o'clock it's starting to get a little bit dark.

And um I told him to be very careful.

Turns out home was Sam Bruno, so he has a little ways to go, and um, I don't think we're doing a good job um uh with our young people because when you're maybe he was you know he was either teen or twenty, but he wasn't old enough to feel mortal like you do when you're 71.

Um and it is a big difference, it's a problem because young people don't feel like you know anything bad can happen to them, but if if it does, it'll change their trajectory for um for life.

So um we were encouraged to look at the draft ordinance that the county had put together.

I think both Floor and I shared that with um the city manager's office, and I don't want to um I don't want to play around wordsmithing too much.

I I want to join the effort uh as soon as possible, as soon as staff can bring it to the council.

I'd like to have it before us before um before we lose somebody in our town having done nothing.

Um at the same time, um, you know, I've been noticing more and more that there are people on there are e-bikes that are pedal assisted, there are what are called e-bikes, but they're a little more like e-motorcycles because they have a throttle control.

And um, and you know, and they're designed to have a license, but most of them that you see around town don't have a license.

If the person is younger, they're probably not registering the vehicle, they probably don't have insurance.

And some of this, I'm I'm sorry that uh we have to turn to our police department again, but um it can't be the wild west when it comes to scooters and e-bikes, um and and the way they behave because they don't stop, they ride as if they're on a bicycle.

So you know how people that are cycling will not make the full stop and they'll dart into the crosswalk to get across.

And you know, at those speeds, at the e-bike speeds, it's just horribly dangerous, and um uh I know something bad will happen.

So we need to uh address that both at the council level, but we also have to address that with some um measure of enforcement.

Um the other item that uh Mark mentioned, or when we were together for the um county symposium on the big issues of the day.

I don't know what how Mark felt about that meeting, but I was getting the distinct impression that uh we shouldn't expect any VLF funds in the coming year, and that the lawsuit that the county is bringing against the state of California for not making us whole, which they've done for for more than a decade, and now they're not making us whole anymore.

Um, if it's successful, it's years away.

And so the pain is going to come uh very rapidly.

Um so with that um both uh councilman Coleman and myself serve on the budget subcommittee, and um I think it's time for us to get together and look at the what if, what if there are no VLF funds.

Are we going to adjust burn reserves or are we gonna look at areas where there can be cuts?

And I think we need to put that out there so that the public realizes the seriousness of of the quandary that we find ourselves in.

So uh considering your schedule, we'll do something soon.

Mr.

Mayor, if I could, I just wanted to bring light.

Thank you both for bringing light uh to the e-bike motorbike.

Um wanted to point to our city attorney as um there's also been discussions in CCAG that there is about five different bills currently through the state legislature on e-bike, including um assembly member Diane Pappen.

Some are focusing on the manufacturer, others are functioning or focusing on the user, um, the age limit.

Um, and then there's also conversation about quote unquote not that necessarily it happens here in South San Francisco, but it is open to happening in other jurisdictions, the overpolicing of individuals primarily of color, should um they be writing unattended or whatnot.

So there needs to be a fine point.

I completely um agree with you all that we need to do something about this.

Um there's also the uh school districts is putting together with safe routes of school, a coalition um part of that as well.

Uh CCAG is definitely bringing something forth that will also not push away the local ordinance.

Appreciate the supervisors of what they're doing, but there seems to be something in the legislature that if they pass it, it will override the county.

So definitely monitor it, Sky.

Please keep us abreast on all of that.

Uh but that thank you for bringing that up as well.

Okay, thank you.

So with that, I think we've completed the council comments, and we can move on to the next item.

Thank you, Mayor.

We will now move on to public comments, and I want to acknowledge that there was an e-comment submitted by John Goodwin, uh former mayor of the town of Colma that's available on the website for council.

And we do have a total of six speakers, but I have them for item number 12.

So I will call you when that item is discussed.

We'll start our public comment with Corey David.

I was pleased to be able to attend Mr.

Nagales Town Hall in Westboro recently.

The discussion included the progress of projects moving forward to benefit a select few, including senior housing and daycare.

There were also boasts of securing funding anywhere between nine million dollars and eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars for these projects, but I sense that just a peek under the covers would reveal that this would only fund a fraction of the project costs, the majority finding its way to debt entries on the balance sheet.

To no surprise, someone brought up the long delayed question about the future of the municipal services building as a benefit to the senior population of South San Francisco.

While our city officials often find themselves scrambling when addressing this subject, Mr.

Nogales assured us that he would address the future of the MSB when he was seated as mayor.

As this is just a rotational position to be host of the proceedings with no additional powers bestowed, I don't know how I would take that comment, Mr.

Adiego.

However, Mr.

Nigales did comment that the future might include a ground level senior center with senior housing constructed above.

This comment was enlightening and alarming at the same time.

To achieve this, the MSB would have to be demolished, but more concerning, money for a project of this magnitude would likely not materialize for decades.

Perhaps this is the city's strategy, not to only run out the clock on the building, but the lives of the seniors demanding its reopening.

And a reminder, those seniors helped to fund all of our city officials' pet projects that have no direct benefit to them.

So as I recall, our city officials made a promise to not chain up the Memus B and let it fall into disrepair.

And yet this is exactly what is happening to it at the neglected Burybury shopping center across the street.

There have been claims that the building has fallen into tens of millions of dollars in disrepair.

And as I've demanded to know what party of parties were responsible for this neglect and haven't received an answer, I don't believe you.

The fact that the building was used right up until the last minute when all but station fire station 63 were relocated.

Also, doesn't support your claims unless you knowingly risk public safety and continue to risk the lives of our first responders.

There's also a 2 million 250,000 FEMA grant that was to be used to retrofit the building, and the city has failed to make any accounting for the grant as has been formally requested.

Was it used as intended?

This is an opportunity for you to explain your position on the MSB, or the residents will have no choice but to conclude you're deceiving us.

Thank you, Mr.

David.

Annie.

They're all there.

Good evening, Ms.

Well.

Good evening.

Good evening, and um, I'm very pleased to see.

I know I spoke about the minutes of the council meeting at one of the previous meetings.

And I um I remember Mayor Adiego, you didn't acknowledge that it was time for you to review the staff, you know, and the um, I guess the uh the handbook for the council, and I'm very happy to see that as one of the discussion item, which is item number four today.

Um I did take a quick look at uh the minutes part, and um what I read was I really don't see any changes here.

So I'm not sure if this is a um work in progress draft and is still you know pending additional changes.

Um so I'd like to, you know, hopefully there will be some discussion at you know during that time, and I'd love to hear more about that.

And uh hopefully I will have a chance to ask for the questions afterward, after I hear any explanation.

So thank you very much for putting that on the agenda.

And um I definitely look forward to that part.

And so that's one part that I want to talk about.

The other part is I also mentioned at one of the prior meetings.

Um I have questions about you know um the time when I try to apply for, you know, boards and and commissions, and um, and I ask all of you council members to let me know if what is the reason for not selecting me, you know, and leaving uh two seats open.

And um I feel that I have the qualifications and you know the um experience for all the positions I applied for, and um also I've been coming to council meetings, I've been I've been going through a lot of you know, uh the police, you know, academy, you know, you know, citizens' academy and all of that, you know, and I just feel that there's definitely I need to know the reason because I think it's really reasonable for me to understand how what does it take to be you know be selected and why am I not selected, especially when I'm very interested in doing something for the city.

So I would appreciate I email all of you twice, and I hope I will get a response one of these days, and um, I think I deserve at least that.

Thank you.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

Let me uh assure you that uh the handbook is in the consent calendar portion, but we won't be um we won't be running through it.

I understand uh it will be pulled from consent and will be a full discussion shortly.

Um next uh speaker.

We have Brian Campania.

I think I may have to say, I speak under the virtual minutes.

So that will conclude our speakers, unless there's someone else in the audience that would like to speak under public comment for a consent calendar as well.

Anyone else feel the need?

We have time tonight.

So Mr.

Mayor, if I can clarify some of some comment made about my town halls, I just wanted to clarify.

So that's why I brought that up.

So I just wanted to clarify.

Not that I would take over any decision based on.

I didn't I didn't take it as a big power, but I really wasn't worried.

Okay, um, okay, thank you.

Uh so you can move along.

Thank you, Mayor.

We will now move on to consent calendar.

Item number two is a motion to approve the minutes for the meetings of January 28th and February 4th, 2026.

Item number three is a motion to accept the construction improvements of the 2024 and 2025 street surface seal project stwenty four zero two and ST2502 as completed by American Asphalt Repair and Resurfacing Company Incorporated in accordance with plans and specifications with a total construction cost of 3,509,846 and 72 cents.

Item number four is a review and approve proposed revisions to the city council procedures and Protocols Handbook, item four A is the resolution.

Item five is a report regarding a resolution approving budget amendment number 26.057, appropriating 600,000 in permit fee revenue and 300,000 in professional services expenditures in the fiscal year 25 2025 26 Economic and Community Development Department Operating Budget Item 5A is a resolution.

Item six is a report regarding a resolution authorizing the acceptance of donations from various community partners totaling 2,500 for fiscal year 2025-26, as well as in-kind donations of supplies and volunteer support for parks and recreation department programs and events.

Item 6A is a resolution.

Item 7 is a report regarding approving the summary vacation of a public utility easement on 972 El Camino Real, APN number 014-011-320, and on 932 El Camino Real, APN number 014-011-330 to allow for development of said properties.

Item 7A is the resolution.056, amending the fire department's fiscal year 2025-26 operating budget.

Item 10A is a resolution.

Okay.

Thank you for your good work.

And let's see if uh any member of the council would like to remove an item.

Item four, please.

Anyone else?

Okay, I'm gonna remove item five.

So let's start with uh item four is the handbook.

So we've all had uh copies to look through.

Thank you.

Um, let me kind of just talk about the the red light items that were kind of added to the handbook, and have some questions and clarifications and some suggestions.

Um page, I guess this is on the bottom of the handbook on page 28.

It talked about kind of like a sequence of items and number thirteen was items from council community reports announcements and honoring the life of request.

And uh I bring this up because as you heard earlier, we brought up individuals who um passed away.

And I don't want to put bury it at the end, uh, because when I do it, I let the family know that I'm doing it so they can watch the last thing I will want for them is to wait two or three hours so that they can just hear that I were we're honoring the memory of their loved one.

I think that that should remain where we are doing it right now in terms of council comments.

So that's one suggestion that I would like to have.

Um, and then on page 29, when we're talking about proclamations and accommodations and certificates.

Um, I really appreciate the mayor in the sense that um we've kind of limited kind of that section in terms of the number of presentations.

In the past, we've kind of gotten bogged down with that.

And sometimes I I'll look at the clock, it's we're in an hour of presentations.

And I'm wondering if my colleagues would be open to the idea of limiting it or changing this a little bit.

And I had a conversation with the city manager about this, that maybe we should have a process where if there is a particular accommodation or proclamation that we want to do, that individual organization has to receive it in person.

If there are other accommodations that we want to do, like honoring whatever month, you know, that we do that in the um consent calendar, and that we don't pull it, but it's there to be recognized that we vote for it.

So that we're not so we're still recognizing those important accommodations, but I feel like sometimes it's it box us down in terms of the people's business, and I and I really kind of want to streamline a lot of this.

So that's that's the suggestion that I'm throwing out in terms of streamlining the process for all of us.

And I'm open to the suggestions if that's something that you don't want to do, or you like the process we do right now, but I think it um I really appreciate how you kind of handle this.

Um the next thing I have on page 36 is the accessibility and the hybrid meeting requirements, and then um beginning July 1st in 2026, uh a new law, SB 707 requires that um there needs to be more remote public access via two-way audio visual platforms and also provide multi-language outreach.

And I kind of had a question about staff is are we prepared to do that?

And I just wanted to kind of hear, because I know that's something that we've talked about.

I really want to make sure that we're ready to do this.

More than happy to answer your questions, Mr.

Mayor Nicholas.

So just for clarification, on your page 28, where the proposal was for honoring of life, that was simply a request by council.

So if the council prefers, I can move that up to item eight and just memorialize it.

The intention was to have it agendized so that it's the permanent format of the meeting agenda.

That's that's the reason.

So if you don't want it in item 13, we can move it to item eight.

I would appreciate that.

Okay, okay.

Well, let's let's let's see if anybody else are are we in agreement with the councilman or the vice mayor?

Yes.

Okay.

Okay, you'd like that to report.

I have other things too, but uh how about how about I finish my thought before we start?

There's there's more.

I've read the handbook.

Okay, now moving on to your question about are we ready for the changes for Senate Bill 707?

Yes, we are.

We have been working with the information technology department and their wonderful team.

And if now members of the public or yourself go on to the city council agenda's website, it's there's translation available for the multiple languages that we have now.

Um, so closed captioning is also a feature that's available that addresses the um needs of SB 707.

The um we do have one caveat in the agenda system where we're working with IT to generate a agenda that translates automatically when you click on the page.

Right now, we only have it under the agendas, not the accessibility.

So it's a work in progress.

We're our goal is to have it ready to go before the last meeting of June, because we know that this becomes effective in July.

Um, so all of our agendas are ADA compliant at this point, they're available in the languages that need to be.

There's also um my I've purchased a ILA Pro, which is a translation device that we will IT and I will help launch.

It's gonna have a QR code, and members of the public can scan it to get instant translation of the meeting.

So we will have that ready available.

It's in we just need a training component, and that will be available.

So, yes, we are keenly aware that there are uh changes that need to happen, and we're on it.

Great.

And as a point of information, it's only for council, right?

It's not other uh commission meetings and all of that.

That is correct, great.

Thank you.

And then the the last line item one, and I'll pivot it.

It's this is I wanted to make the the public aware.

We've we've gotten, I think, complaints about that we're limiting public comment.

And that you know that it's it's it's some sort of violation, and there was something in the handbook that I really wanted to highlight here.

Uh on page 43, it says public participation, and it says individuals speaking under public comments generally are limited to three minutes.

If there appears to be a large number of speakers, the mayor may reduce individual speaking time to limit the total amount of time for public comments, and then it cites a government code section, which is 54954.3b1.

And Sky, I'm gonna look to you that this allows us to reduce the number I guess the minutes, because for example, if we have a hundred speakers, we want to be able to allow for them to kind of speak, but also to go through our process of handling the business uh business of the day.

Uh thank you for the question.

Yeah, Vice Mayor.

So um the section of the government code that you cited um explicitly states that um the city council may adopt reasonable regulations relating to public comments at meetings, and this is a quote, including but not limited to regulations limiting the total amount of time allocated for public testimony on particular issues and for each individual speaker.

And um this has been reviewed by California courts and they have um sustained the concept that um the legislature can and has um authorized local government legislative bodies such as the city council to um limit both the total amount of time that may be devoted at a meeting to public comment as well as the amount of time for individual comments.

Um we've talked about this issue in the past in these meetings, and I think it's for me always helpful to uh keep in mind that the Brown Act really balances two competing values.

One is um to inform the public about the business that the city council is going to conduct so that it's aware of what's on the agenda, and then for the council to complete the agendized business so that the public has an opportunity to uh know when those decisions will be made, and balanced against that is the place for the public on the agenda, and the rule about limiting individual time and total amount of time for public comment is intended to um allow for each city council to strike a balance so that the agendized business can be completed while also providing that opportunity for the public to speak.

Great.

So now that that's done, I have more.

I'll be really quick in terms of the appendix, and um there is here about travel, and I kind of want to understand the what's written here.

So from what I understand, uh Madam City Manager, we are allocated, I guess, a certain budget in terms of travel and expenses.

You were we are now when we have an event, I guess travel for an event, you are asking us to fill out this form that we would submit, and then that's then the travel is approved, or does council need the need to vote on that?

I just want to understand the process here in terms of travel.

Sure.

So we're just trying to um clarify uh I think it's a repeat of the tools that will allow the city manager's department to um effectively implement the budget that's available for travel.

And so these are just some tools that we're trying to do that will be managed by the city manager's office um to support the events and the travel that you all are interested in in going to.

So if there is another when I say travel, I was thinking more outside of San Mateo County, but you're saying that even within San Mateo County, let's just say there's, for example, uh a nonprofit that's having a fundraising event or some sort of event, and I want to go.

Are you saying that I have to fill out that request first before I can pay my ticket through uh to to attend?

So we can continue to work on this and refine those specific instances, okay.

Um, since I have not worked with it directly before, um, we will we can continue to answer those types of questions following this.

Let's let's have a conversation offline about that.

So that's all I have, Mr.

Mayor.

Thank you.

Okay, miss through uh through the mayor.

Um just wanted to bring back uh your uh point about speaker time brought me back to a time that I was in the council chambers in the city of San Mateo, and I actually took a picture of that.

I don't know if Richard Richie might remember this from your time over there, but they actually have it right in the bit in the front as as folks come in.

Uh one to ten speakers gets three minutes, uh 11 to 20 uh public speakers get two minutes, 21 and more public speakers get one minute.

And they have it in an acrylic type of base, so everybody understands that it's not some surprise to something for this council to consider.

Does that make sense?

I just add on to that.

I think um the worst part is you know, some people come very they prepare for their public comments and they prepare a three-minute long public comment and they put a lot of time into it and then they understandably get a little upset if they're suddenly given one minute.

Um but it's something that folks should probably you know come to learn to predict if uh there is going to be a uh controversial or you know, a item of interest of of big interest to the community.

But maybe this is something that we not only put maybe in the back of the room when when folks do sign up for public comment, but something that we also put on the agenda or something that we put on our website so that folks kind of understand and have that expectation.

And Sky legally we're able to put that those numbers.

Yes, um, in fact, uh another uh city that I advised actually just updated their handbook and included exactly that that uh that framework.

Um, I guess my question for council is to just as you um reach the conclusion of the discussion just to let us know do you actually want that include like that framework put into the handbook and then we can work to make sure that it's available to the public.

The exact number of minutes that's what you're doing.

Yeah, I would I would want to be able to do that.

Because right now it's kind of vague that we have, yeah.

Yeah, I would want to build in a little flexibility for the for regardless of the number of speakers on an item, how many items total are there are on the agenda where the mayor at the time might want to make some from some further adjustments to reflect the total number of items of business to be conducted.

But um, but we we I we can work on that wording if that's council's desire.

Maybe instead of mandatory saying the number of speakers could maybe give you words could or it's it's it I may it's a may.

It's not a mandatory, it's a but it's supposed to it's intended to give the public a uh general framework for understanding that that there the time available may be limited based on the number of speakers, and then I just want to add in some additional flexibility for the total total number of items on the agenda.

Exactly, because the mayor, whoever is sitting in that chair could say no, I still want to give everyone in three minutes.

Well, just the mere fact that we're discussing it, I think it's part of the education of the public and for our education too, so um uh there's there's some um verbiage here about uh three minutes per person with a total time of 30 minutes.

Um is that something we've utilized before?

I don't I don't recall cutting it off at 10 speakers.

Uh the handbook in that concept has not been altered at all.

Yeah, that's original to the book.

Yes, it's original to the book.

So I'd like to hear comments on that.

I mean, is that and then and then what you would do is you would you would maybe cut it off at 10 people and and if there were more people they could speak at the end of the meeting after you've made your decision on the issue.

I don't really understand how that would work.

I'm not sure if it's if it's been followed because I know we've had some long meetings, and I think out of respect for the audience who takes time out of their day to come, I I just I remember when I was mayor, I did not follow that.

Yeah.

I'm sorry, but it it just seemed disrespectful to the folks who were in the room.

Yeah, I mean, the reality is we seldom have a full house, and when we do, there's probably a darn good reason that they're showing up and it's you know part of uh what we're paid the high salary for to hear from the public when they're agitated or when they're grateful.

Yeah, I would I would uh support amending that.

Um I think I I I like what I just proposed in terms of numbers, again for transparency's sake, and also uh to the vice mayor's point, sometimes there might be an emergency item that we need to get to right uh to vote on it, and if we're here just the entire night listening over an hour, I think we've had uh public comment um how important is it for us to uh be able to move and and also be respectful of staff time too right yeah and I just want to emphasize these are what's in the what's in the handbook isn't since it's not in red line as the clerk said the this has been in place for a while but this is these are guidelines this is the the city the mayor and the city council always have the opportunity to um depart from what's in the handbook and say we want to we want to have a longer period of public comment about this um the the what's in the handbook now doesn't preclude that it's just supposed to be a guideline I mean are you saying that for everything in the handbook we could just preclude the guidance kind of like begs the question what's the point of the handbook um so uh I would just like to offer first of all I appreciate um sky bringing up the fact that in terms of public comment he he can offer some additional language so you have flexibility um so that we have general you know expectations that we can try and set um but there will be opportun there will be potentially times when you're going to need to make short in order to make decisions um that you would need to further modify that so that was one particular component and in general um the handbook is extremely helpful to set expectations for counsel for each other um for staff so that we understand um what the goals and the targets are and for the public and so um this is not a a law where somebody could go to jail um but it is something that um high functioning councils of which you are one um you know you help monitor uh and and and hold your colleagues accountable to it uh yeah we can take public comments on this if if but we're I don't think we're quite done let let's let's see if we're done with our discussion and then we'll open it up to public comment mayor if I if I may respond to Vice Mayor um Nagales's question about travel only to be fair to city manager because she was not here during the time of conversations so the intention of the travel is for outside travel those forms are not intended for you to request permission to attend local events that would be covered with your annual adoption of budget.

It's simply a process that would allow for my office when there is a public records request to have documentation that you indeed did get the authorization required to expend those funds in any training it is not intended for you to get approval every meeting that you're going within San Mateo County if that makes sense.

But in conjunction with this there were dollars that were allocated certain amounts of money for each council person to be able to utilize for for um whether it was outside travel or um within the county eventually you have to pay fifty dollars to sit down and and learn and and have a have uh a meal um I think we need to look at that again because I don't know if um if uh anybody's hit the hit the limit on that and I don't really remember what it is I know it's a little a little bit larger for the mayor because sometimes there's an expectation although I don't think I'll be close to hitting the limit.

What I wanted to talk about before we move along is you know there's there's been some discussion in the public and around city hall about the use of credit cards and some observations uh I haven't had a chance to look at some of the you know um the the requests for the Freedom of Information Act requests where there were some um situations where the the policy was not followed but I need to know from the city manager that if if someone is not following um the protocol that indeed there is a and I don't I don't know if it's your decision or ultimately the council's but you know if you can't turn in your receipts in a timely manner um you shouldn't be carrying a credit card.

A very long time ago, we had someone that used their city credit card for personal business.

Yeah, because they were confused and they didn't mean to use that card.

That was the explanation.

That doesn't hold up well with the public um and and so on that occasion, because that can actually happen, but it never looks good.

I turned in my credit card.

So if I have a receipt and I want to get paid back, I need to keep that receipt and turn it in.

So if you're having trouble with receipts, I suggest you give up the card and um turn in turn in the receipts and be reimbursed.

I've got a couple more tabs here.

So the um not public comments, but on the minutes, the public has noticed that.

And you can go back and as much as you want to listen to you know stuff that's archived, you can spend all your time doing that.

But I think that you know, to have a list of names of people that have come to a meeting with no reference to what they were interested in is kind of disrespectful to the spirit of what we're doing here as a democracy and and and such.

So I would like to see if if um here from the city clerk if we can at least identify not the whole chain of thought, but at least the item of concern, and then if somebody is interested, if they're like-minded, they could listen electronically to what's been captured.

Absolutely.

So I know that it's been a controversy, Mayor, about the formatting of the minutes, and I had my team and I kind of pull the various cities and the county, and it's not uncommon for other cities to just list names, but in fairness of your concern, um, I do agree we can maybe provide the name, the topic of discussion, and then point the viewers to the audio meeting uh for reference.

I do want to say that a few years ago, when we transitioned to the action minutes, we incorporated the e-comment portal, and this is probably for members of the public.

When you submit a comment through the e-comment portal, that becomes permanent part of the agenda packet.

Your not only does your comment become visible to the community, becomes immediately available to the council.

So for those members of the public that come, and let's say as council member Coleman described, we have an overabundance of speakers.

That is an opportunity for you to submit your written comments for members of the of the council.

Um, I do want to highlight in the recent retention schedule that the council approved, agenda packets, the government code says we only have to keep them for two years, being mindful that this has been a community concern, we will keep them for 20 years.

So those those agendas become permanent record for 20 years.

When we come to the meeting recordings, those by government code only have to be kept for 30 days, and we propose that we're going to keep them for two years, the comment current year plus two.

So we do hear the community concerns.

We do hear that there's this sentiment that we're they're not being considered.

So if the council's pleasure is for us to include the speaker name and the item discussed, we're more than happy to transition to that format of action minutes.

Yeah, thank thank you, Rosa, for that explanation.

So let's um let's see if we have a consensus on that.

Is that the direction we'd like to go in?

Yeah, I don't I don't think we have to have a word by word because that's a transcript, but having a summary, a succinct summary is this Well, I I I think really what she's suggesting is a topic.

Correct.

Yeah, topic.

Okay, and and I I say that uh council member uh Nicholas, only because uh us, me or anyone who's clerking the meeting, we don't want to make an assumption of what we think we heard, and that's also disrespectful to the speaker because we can miss the intent of their comment.

So I think a lot of cities are transitioning from providing that summary um of what was said in that meeting to the topic of discussion.

So, for example, for the speakers tonight, we can put the name and for the speaker that had a concern about the MSB, discuss concerns about MSB.

So keeping it very narrow but to the topic of the discussion, so that I don't make an inappropriate assumption of what was intended to be said, and I don't miscontrue the message.

Right.

Councilman Coleman.

Um question third.

So we're required by law to keep the video for two years.

Uh government code says we only need to keep it for 30 days.

For 30 days, but we keep it for two years.

Is there a reason why we don't keep it for past two years?

Um, well, we when we read when we met with the consultant and we updated the records retention.

Their recommendation was that we delete videos after 30 days.

My suggestion because of the concern was we're going to keep them for current plus two years.

So there's there's not a reason other than um storage, I imagine, from uh, storage is pretty cheap these days, right?

For one video every two weeks.

I mean, at the time, at present time we have videos that go back to 2015.

So we have an overwhelming amount of videos on the website.

So your question is like yes, I I guess you said two years, but in practice, we are keeping old videos since 2015.

We are moving in the direction of getting up to speed with the current adopted retention schedule.

So we will re we will be removing those videos from the website once we process the the records for the removing videos from the website.

Correct, because we will be in compliance with our own records retention.

I'm not sure how much I agree with that.

Um just for historic value, right?

I think we will be losing a lot of information and discussions.

Well, we have been had.

We have the agenda packets that contain all the information that was presented to council, and as a reminder, I know that this is not what people want to hear, but the minutes in itself are not a recording of what members of the public come.

This is for members of the legislative body, the actions that were taken by the legislative body.

So it is important to capture the comments that are said by the members of the public, but in essence, it's recording the actions of the legislative body.

So when I say that, I discuss consent calendar, the actions of the council, any discussions of the council, anything that the council as a body took an action is what we're required to record in those minutes.

All right, still not sure if I'm in agreement.

Um the other thing is I mean, it's the year's 2026, and there's a lot of software out there that will transcribe meetings.

And so while a summary is great, uh, you can automatically transcribe any video, and it's won't be 100% accurate, but it is very accurate.

And so I mean, where I'm coming from is I think I mean these are public meetings, and I'm thinking, you know, 20, 30, who knows how many years from now.

Uh folks will be wondering why we made certain decisions, right?

And I think we should be keeping that as part of some sort of historical record, which is why I believe keeping these videos is is very important, but also having a transcript, and I don't want you typing up every word, that's absolutely what I'm not suggesting.

But there are there is software and there are programs out there that will transcribe to videos.

Correct.

And so when folks are thinking, you know, and I I want to say I'm thinking, you know, 10 years from now, if folks want to are wondering, oh, when why did they make a decision about I'll just say to MSE, why did they make a decision about the MSB?

They should be able to control F, MSB, and find in the transcript every moment in which that was mentioned.

We should make it as easy as possible for folks to access the public meetings and what was said and when it was said.

I think that is important.

And so I'm not sure how we can integrate that, but I I think it's important for the historic record.

And I agree, we currently have the closed caption feature available for all of our meetings, and those are capabilities that members of the public can see now.

I won't speak out of my realm because I'm not an IT, that's not my area of expertise, but I will say that in terms of X uh accessing the video footage and having that uh availability.

I I hear what you're saying.

Um it was taken into consideration, which is why I suggested to the consultant that we were going to go beyond the 30 days that is really government code requirement to two years.

But I hear you, I understand what you're saying.

I can't speak about the capability or accessibility because I'll defer that to Tony, but um we'll consider future discussion if you need.

Okay, no, thank you.

And I I I concur with the councilman, I think that you know it is a different day when it comes to technology, and it'll be interesting to hear from Tony Barrera to say um would that truly be a burden, or is it something that could be accomplished with relative ease?

Yeah, very good.

Any other comments?

Um so I had a question, it just occurred to me when I was looking at the boards and commissions and the stipend, um, you know, we got very generous and raised $100.

I don't know.

If you don't attend a meeting, is there a stipend?

Oh, okay.

So we have a lot of people, our commissions are saving us a lot of money lately.

The amount of absenteeism is pretty pretty rampant.

We just put out the letters by and I'm I'm already getting some um some responses, so they took it serious.

I didn't craft the letter, it was pretty harsh, but anyway.

Um did we uh accomplish what we needed to to communicate well with uh I think if we if somebody would like to make a motion to summarize the changes that you uh would like, that would be fabulous.

So what I was hearing, yeah, that's where the AI comes in.

I see what you're I see what she's doing to us.

Okay.

Um, so I think the city could probably help us summarize what we've heard, including uh, and and I know that it it starts with the anyway.

There's several different items I took notes on.

Would you like to try summarizing for them?

I will do my best.

So I hear that we want to incorporate the uh limited timing similar to the city of San Mateo for our public comments.

I'm not really there.

I thought that there was uh language that's a little bit more flexible than how sky drafts the length, this we have to approve it tonight.

Is that what we're doing?

Or I think it I think given the number of changes that have been received.

Maybe we probably need to to reschedule, continue it to another meeting.

Um, so you don't have to act on it tonight.

We could prepare some additional text um that reflects uh the framework for time limits that city of San Mateo uses and some additional flexibility.

Council can then discuss it more fully as part of the item coming back.

Okay.

So you've captured enough you can do that for another meeting.

Thank you for getting us out of this quad mile.

I think no, I think it would still be very helpful if we did because I'm seeing that there might not be consensus amongst everybody in terms of the language that we should be drafting.

So if we could make sure that we have consensus on what should be drafted, that would be extremely helpful.

And I think and I'm betting Rosa can help you with that.

All right, more pressure.

Okay, so we currently have, as we said, the 30 minutes allowed in the agenda.

What I heard was a discussion of the conversation of limiting speakers to two minutes and one.

So while we don't want to set a time, I understand there wants to be flexibility of the language that just in the event that we had an excessive amount of speakers, we want to create a time frame of from one to I believe it was 20 speakers, uh, would be the three minutes.

Is that what you had?

One to ten is three, uh-huh.

Eleven to twenty is two minutes.

Okay, twenty-one and over that amount, one minute.

Okay, as it has been done in the past, not kind of following the just the meeting environment, is we've done the 30 minutes and then the remaining speakers have been moved to the end of the of the meeting.

That is not the consensus of the council that I hear that's not what you want to do.

So I can work with Skye and Laura and the city manager to kind of draft a language that would amend that or add it to the city council handbook.

So is is the council comfortable with the concept of putting in a guideline about how much time folks would receive based on the number of speakers?

We would add additional language that provides some flexibility, but do you want some specificity as a guideline?

That's the question to the council this evening, I I for one, I'm not not on this necessarily.

I'm um considering it.

Yeah, I would like to be a more flexible language depending on the situation.

Maybe maybe something that says uh the mayor at his discretion may use this um structure, you know, or or something along that line that that points to something in case he needs an idea.

Is there consensus on the calendar um from the council that you would like these specified ranges?

Well, you were suggesting, I think that like in San Mateo, I guess when you enter the building, there's there's an archway that says a first 10 and three, and then you hand out little tickets.

You won.

There's an acrylic sign, like oh, it's acrylic.

I was picturing like grant at the table where the agenda is picked up from.

Well, let me cut it since I started this conversation.

I was more about just uh letting people know that we limited that it where I think I get a little worried about is what I was saying originally, is that sometimes we get a lot of flag for limiting the time, and there's and there's and I believe there's reasons to do that.

Where I think I get a little concern is when we start putting language specifying why we would limit public comment.

Because I think that's when the public's like, why are you now limiting my ability to give public comment?

I think that's that's where I'm a I thought so the if you want to play with language, that's one thing, but I think that's my concern is the perception of that we're trying to control public comment and limiting the time for other reasons.

I think that's where my concern is.

I don't think it's a perception thing.

I think it's standardizing and being transparent.

Uh once the community starts understanding that this is the process, then they'll get it.

Because right now, how how it came or it's coming across when when James was mayor, it was like you're limiting constitutional.

Then I came in as mayor, I let them speak.

Oh, okay, Eddie's not, and then you know, so it's it's it's not consistent.

So by providing something of this nature, we're being consistent.

There's no surprises.

Everyone knows what to expect.

Although to be honest, I feel like um there's some individuals who would never be happy with or without the specific language.

That's the nature of the business, where the nature of the business.

Um, but I think but Council Coleman, something that you said that struck me as is spot on, is that you know, if we said the first 20 people get three minutes and then after that get two.

So if if I've if I've I don't think so, I think you're misunderstanding.

I think like you know, at the at the very beginning, the city clerk.

I I don't want people some people to get more and others to get less.

I think at the beginning the clerk says we have twelve.

Okay, that means everyone gets two, or the clerk says we have three comments.

Everyone gets three on the item.

So wouldn't it be the first 10 get three and then the next 10 get two?

Okay, well, that's that's different than San Mateo.

Okay.

Well, yeah, yeah.

No, I I heard you because you say, you know, some people um, you know, come prepared and then they sorry if I may just just to clarify um what uh council member uh floors was specifying in San Mateo, it's based on the total number of speakers.

So it's not speakers one through ten get three minutes and speakers eleven through twenty get two minutes.

No, it's if there's a total of let's say 25 speakers, 25 speakers get it up to two minutes each.

Okay, then that's what you were saying, okay.

So I I misunderstood.

And then add the language that will say, for example, we have like 35 speakers, that's more than you know, you would like to hear all of the 35 speakers.

So if we add if we include the language that the council member Flores was saying that the for the if there are 10, it will be three minutes.

For if it's 11 to 20, it's two minutes, and more than 20 is one minute.

And then um, you know, if it's more than that, then you know, the um if it's more than 30, then the mayor, the presiding officer will have a leeway to in case include all of them, say for example, 45, you know, then it's up to you to or you.

Yeah, so I I think I think we've landed someplace here, right?

That that it is it is you know, depending on how many people have signed up, um, it determines initially what we tell them they have time the the amount of time they each get.

I think that's fair.

That's clear.

Okay.

So you would like that concept incorporated as some people have changed their mind because it I don't think there was a consensus five minutes ago.

And it sounds like there is a consensus now to include that.

Yeah, I mean, I I misunderstood.

I thought that there were batches, and if you're the first in the door, you get more time.

Okay.

Yeah, um, and I think that that's superior to you know the first 30 minutes, and everybody gets pushed to the end of the meeting when you yeah, what's what is the point of that?

So uh what else did you need help with, Laura?

Another change to the handbook would be if there's a consensus of the council to move the honoring the life of requests from item number thirteen to item number eight, which would kind of condensate from council comments requests.

Okay, and then um after that I heard the public comment.

Was there a consensus for me to move forward with name item discussion or discussion of item and then points as reference to the city website for the complete video?

The name of the speaker and the topic, right?

Correct, name of speaker and topic.

Okay, I think there's also as brought up the discussion about commendations and proclamations and a process of changing that.

Okay.

Right, then if I understood your proposal, Vice Mayor, was that if there's a recipient in person that that would actually be um uh priority and discussed and acted on individually, but otherwise it the proclamations would go on to the consent calendar.

Yes, and and you were saying not to pull.

Like what could like if they're if we're recognizing it already by voting on it and approving it, but wouldn't you want to give an honor to someone?

So I I just want to avoid us putting it in consent, and then everybody's always polling it.

No, I well I I thought the idea was if if they're in the audience.

Wouldn't they always be in the audience?

That's what I thought.

When would they not always I guess it we would have I I guess to be the discretion of the mayor potentially, saying, Well, this is the one I want to recognize primarily and see if they're available, if that because that's the only time I will recognize the presentation for that particular organization or individual, and then because if you put it on consent, then everyone's gonna pull it.

So what's the whole point of limiting it?

Right, and so but I mean like that's when then we get bought down again, right?

And so I think there are a couple of proclamations that potentially it could be put on the consent calendar, and you're still recognizing because it's on the calendar, and you're voting the supporting of the of the whatever the recognition is.

I don't know that I'm there because I still see if I if I think I'm there, um councilmember Flores.

So I think it comes to when we receive requests for proclamations from various agencies, and we have two regular scheduled meetings of the city council.

So what I think I'm hearing Vice Mayor Nogala say is adding those requests to items under consent calendar for the council to recognize those organizations that are requesting proclamations on their behalf.

So you mean external requests?

Very much.

The ones that we if we're limiting to 15 minutes of presentations, what I think I'm hearing is for those that come in after and would not be within the 15 minutes of presentations, we add those to the consent calendar for the council to recognize and then the mayor to provide that proclamation in the mail.

Am I following my like let me see if I could illustrate like the public works week, yeah, or cities week or something of that?

We just consent item and that gets approved.

You would potentially have a person receive that.

Well, that's yeah, and then that's the point.

Because my point is, for example, we want to celebrate one of our heritage months.

We wanna that wouldn't be one you would actually do.

I guess it's it really is up to the mayor to kind of decide.

But I think maybe as a as a compromise, your suggestion of external requests that maybe we do those on consent, and that maybe will help move things a lot faster, and we and we can just play with it for a while to see how it goes.

Because every two years is how we do this process, right?

So yeah, okay.

I think I have my direction.

Okay, thank you.

So we will be pulling item four, correct?

Yeah, okay.

So we're done.

Yeah.

Okay.

Mr.

Mayor, I believe there was a member of the public who wanted to give uh public comment on this item.

Yes, thank you for reminding me.

Please come up, Ms.

Fong.

You can go up here.

And then Annie also submitted a request to speak, Mayor.

Great.

Hi, I'm Leslie.

I apologize by not having public comment before because what you were saying, it brought up something I want to bring to your attention.

And this is regarding the public comments.

So from what I understand is that you submit the comments while you're in the council meeting at the beginning of council meeting.

Is it possible for somebody to submit the comment ahead of the schedule?

City council meeting, and then they can summarize what they want to say instead of speaking.

Because that would limit maybe the um limit the speaker numbers so that you don't have like three minutes, two minutes, or one minute.

I'm not sure whether we're doing that, because to me, that might be a solution to the situation you guys brought up.

Yeah, Leslie, I think the city clerk did uh incorporate that into her marks as far as the e-comments.

So that's something that can happen.

Yeah, because to me it's like, I mean, like you said, you want to give everybody a voice.

Right.

And I really appreciate that you guys doing it.

I love South City, and I love your council because every one of you guys really think the best for the citizen.

So I do agree with everything that you guys say.

When it comes to, you know, somebody wants to speak and they have a passion about what they want to say, we shouldn't limit them to two minutes, one minute or whatever.

And it's just like, I'm not sure whether it's available that they could send it the comment to a site or a link so they could put that comment in prior to the city council meeting, so that they say, hey, I do have a voice, I can't make it for whatever reason.

Yeah.

And you hear them out that way.

And that does exist.

So you still have a minute and 15 seconds.

I'm gonna use all my time to talk to you guys.

That's the spirit.

That's the spirit.

Heck yeah, I'm gonna take advantage of it.

No, but I really I really want to.

No, I really think that you guys are doing a great job.

I don't care what anybody said.

Personally, I think you are.

We love you.

I love you.

Well, I will have yourself on the back, but no, the city, this city has done a lot, and I'm going to a senior academy, which this is my final one, unless they do another, which apparently they have a cell jail that I have to go see the inmate.

I go, oh my god, whatever.

I'll be there.

But no, the thing is is the police department, the fire department, the cert, every one of them are very dedicated to the city.

I've been to every one of them, so I could speak from experience.

And I've been here 17 years, but you know, I've been revolved in the meeting of city council seven years because I was working.

But now that I'm retired, you'll see more of me.

You probably will hate me after a while, but whatever.

You know, this is okay.

But I just want to make sure that I want to congratulate all of you that you guys are doing great job.

And we need, wait a minute, I got five seconds.

We need more women on this panel.

So you let me, okay?

Thank you, Leslie.

Um, and I think next to you say Annie Lowell was.

Yeah.

Thank you for the opportunity.

Um, after I heard some of your comments.

Um the one that I really have interest is because I brought it up before is the minutes, and uh I'm really uh grateful that you know, several of you actually supported having more transparency, wanting you know, to extend um the video and all of that because I it did concern me because on the current um script, it actually says the recordings of city council meetings are not the official record of these meetings.

The minutes are the only official records, and it also mentioned about you know that being kept for only two um two years, the other channel electronic um video.

And then um, but one clarifications I like to ask is that you know, because I don't see any red lines, so I assume whatever is in here is the original um before you make any edits.

It does say the city clerk shall ensure the preparation of action minutes of each city council meeting, which include the motions made, actions taken, and a list of public comments made.

So, my question is because I think it has been just names only, and I'm really grateful that you know you all agree to having the topic going forward, but based on this little sentence here, it seems like it has, you know, it should have all of the topics, you know, before this change.

So I don't know, maybe I'm misinterpreting what I'm seeing on this um page, and that's why I have some questions here.

And I hope eventually, since you all seem to agree to have the um topics due to be included, so love to have that, you know, hopefully, if there's uh any possibility to make you know technology more accessible, then we'll actually keep the video even longer than just two minutes, two um years.

So thank you for that.

I think there's an intent to explore that.

Yeah, thank you.

And also on the since I still have a little time.

I heard about the discussion on credit cards and um approval bills, just to share something from the public sector.

I've been doing that for many years and approving staffs and getting my expenses approved.

I think it's it's actually really good because I heard the concern about hey, what does it look like?

I mean, if you don't turn in receipts in my previous jobs, no receipts, no reimbursement, period.

And and as a staff, I have to send it to not just my manager, but my next manager, two people have to approve every single expense report.

So I think I just want to share some best practice out there in the you know the uh public in the private sector.

I mean, we have to do that, and before I can take a trip, my manager and my my the next manager have to approve a trip, and I have to do the same for my staff.

It needs two people, not just one.

So thank you.

Thank you, Annie.

And we have Fionola.

Okay, welcome.

Thank you.

Good evening, council members.

I have to give credit where credit is due.

I need to give credit tonight to Mr.

Adiego and Mr.

Coleman.

Thank you both very much for supporting the preservation of the public record.

It is imperative that we shine a light on the truth.

And as many of us know, the public record reflects the depth of corruption in this city that has occurred in the past decades, which is different than you would have us know about.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Unfortunately, Mr.

Nogales led the discussion tonight.

And the words I heard him say, the word that stood out the most was limit, to limit people providing public comment, to limit the time.

I did not, you know, if you're going to discuss a topic, it is only fair to discuss both sides, both points of view.

Then you do not understand the actual topic.

You talked about limiting public comments.

I did not hear you talk about increasing public comment time, because there are jurisdictions in the Bay Area that actually increase public comment time on the peninsula, as a matter of fact, because some jurisdictions respect their taxpayers.

So credit to Mr.

Coleman and credit to Mr.

Adiego.

The public documents reflect the corruption, the enormous amount of deception that has occurred in this city.

Mr.

Adiego, you know well what I'm talking about.

You've been here all of those years, you've been part of it.

There are other people sitting in this room that have been part of it as well.

As a matter of fact, I would like to see arrests.

But we'll get to that.

Thank you, Mr.

Coleman.

I do appreciate what you said tonight on preserving the record.

Because if it were not for the record that citizens have been reviewing, we would not know the half of what's gone on in the city.

Thank you.

Thank you for your nose.

Any other no additional speakers, Mayor?

Okay.

So that completes item four.

And we look forward to uh some new verbiage.

Uh the next item was.

We need a motion to approve items two to three and five to eleven.

No, no, no.

I I pulled five.

Oh, you pulled five, sorry.

So item five is next, and um and uh Nell Sealander is gonna build permits, yeah.

So all I wanted to point to my colleagues and the public is that you know we've been getting a lot of bad news when it comes to you know the the lack of uh uh of growth, which is impacting our our budget in in some uh pretty concerning ways.

And so this adjustment uh in the budget, this um 300,000 additional dollars uh for professional services means that we're dealing with a lot more permits and issuing and permits, and so um uh what can you tell me about the state of affairs in South San Francisco as far as growth?

Because this is roughly what was included in that addendum.

That that list was about um a third of a billion dollars worth of projects.

Absolutely.

Nell C.

Lander Economic and Community Development Director and Eric Riedworf, our building official, is sorry not to be here, but since the item was on consent, I offered to answer these questions for him.

Um so we were really pleasantly surprised to see an influx of permit applications at the end of um the calendar year timed with the new building code adoption.

So we will often see a rush for developers to apply for building permits before there is a code cycle change because the rules of the game change, right?

And so we did see a rush of applications in December, and um those are projects that the developers feel certain will move forward to pull a building permit in the next six to twelve months because they have to keep that building permit alive, right?

They have to respond to comments from the city and pay hefty fees, as you can see in the attachment to process that that plan review.

And so we were really pleasantly surprised to see that.

And there we also had some big building permits pulled this year for tenant improvements as well as for um Essex's new Seventh South Linden project and the Tramil Crow project.

So I think Tramil Crow on it's a San Mateo address, but we think of it as on South Airport or on Airport.

That project um fell right inside this fiscal year, and and so we we exceeded expectations with our revenue.

So that the budget amendment increases revenue about six hundred thousand dollars, and then also increases our um professional services budget by about three hundred thousand since we do use outside plan check.

Okay, no, thank you.

Um, I just wanted to showcase the fact that there are some bright spots moving along.

Thank you.

And so now we need a um a motion to approve uh the consent calendar.

So moved.

Okay, a motion on the floor, and now we need a second, second, but not item four, right?

Correct.

So the council will be approving item two two and three and five and five through eleven.

Second, thank you.

We'll call council member Coleman.

Yes, Councilmember Nicholas.

Aye, mayor Adiego, yes, Councilmember Flores?

Yes, and Vice Mayor Nogales.

Yes.

Thank you.

We now move on to public hearing item number 12 is a report regarding holding a public hearing for a community needs assessment for the HUD community development Block grant Program Year 2026 20 through 2027 annual action plan.

Okay, we'll go ahead and open the public hearing and we'll hear from our staff.

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Council members.

My name is Alvina Condon, and I'm a management analyst with Economic and Community Development.

This is a public hearing for the HUD Community Development Block Grant, CDBG, community needs assessment for program year 2026 to 2027's annual action plan.

The purpose of this public hearing is to receive public testimony on the city's housing, community, and economic development needs for the action plan and to provide direction to the CDBG subcommittee regarding funding priorities.

Additionally, nonprofit organizations seeking CDBG and housing funding, they may use this public hearing to make brief comments to city council regarding their programs and proposed activities.

HUD requires local jurisdictions to prepare an annual action plan in order to receive CDBG funds, and we need to identify community needs and goals and what activities will address them.

The process to form this action plan includes publishing a notice of funding availability, which we put out at the end of December 2025, receiving and processing those applications, holding a public hearing to assess the needs of the community, preparing a draft of the action plan, and then a final public hearing tentatively scheduled for May 27th to hear public comments on the action plan draft.

The final action plan will need to be submitted to HUD by June 1st.

The city has not yet received notification from HUD of its CDBG entitlement amount for program year 26 to 27.

This is common for federally funded programs impacted by the federal budget, a process and timeline.

Staff recommends an estimated CDBG budget of 456,000, estimated from the current year's entitlement amount.

If the final funding amount varies greater than 20% from the estimated budget, staff will return to the CDBG subcommittee or to City Council to revise the funding proposals.

Program year 2627 marks the first year of a two-year funding cycle for public services and minor home repair grantees.

Applications are evaluated based on multiple factors, and for CDBG funding, applicants must meet the CDBG eligibility criteria as well as priorities the city has identified in its consolidated plan.

The city's current consolidated plan identifies the highest community needs to be met with CDBG funds.

For public service activities, there's an estimated $200,000 available through city-funded housing activities, including the Housing Trust Fund and Economic and Community Development General Fund.

For program year 26 to 27, the city received 10 applications for public services.

In recent years, federal program requirements and eligibility criteria, including requirements related to the legal citizenship status of program participants have introduced additional compliance considerations for service providers.

These requirements may limit the suitability of CDBG funding for programs intended to serve community members in an inclusive manner, so we have moved much of our public services to city funding.

For minor home repair, 100,000 is available through the state's permanent local housing allocation funds, PLHA, and the city received one application under this category.

For housing activities, the city receives home administrative funds from the county.

There's an estimated 12,000 available for this coming program year, and the city received one application in this category.

For public improvement projects, there's an estimated $364,080 available for CDBG 26-27, and there will be an additional funds in this category that were reallocated to public improvement activities from unspent CDBG funds from previous years.

The city did not request applications for public improvement projects in the NOFA, but we're working with other city departments to identify projects to utilize this funding.

Finally, the city may use up to 20% of the entitlement amount for grant planning and administration, and there's an estimated amount of about $91,000 for program year 26 to 27.

As a follow-up to today's public hearing, the CDBG subcommittee will next meet on March 6th to consider the public testimonies and finalize funding recommendations.

So next, we will consider public comments for this community needs assessment public hearing.

Thank you, Ms.

Conjured.

Thank you, Mayor.

We begin with Miguel Chavez.

And because there's a few, followed by Carlos Reyes.

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council members.

My name is Miguel Chavez, and I'm the program director for Family Crossroads.

It's an intermarim housing uh program in Daily City that services uh South San Francisco uh residents and northern county residents.

Um, on behalf of Life Moves, thank you for your continued partnership and support.

Uh, we respectfully request consideration for uh $33,445 for the CDBG funding to support case management services at family crossroads in Daly City.

Um Life Moves has provided interim housing and supportive services since 1987, combining shelter with intensive custom customized case management to help families return to stability as quickly as possible.

Um, and the need still continues.

Uh families represent 30 38% of our clients' last physical year, a six percent increase year to year.

Nationally, family homelessness increased by nearly 40% uh in the most recent point in time count last fiscal year.

Family crossroads service 45 families, uh, which includes 70 adults and 78 children.

The program achieved four 86 individuals exiting to permanent housing with a 77% uh positive exit rate across our organization.

Um, in last fiscal year in 2025, LifeMoves provided over 460,000 nights of shelter um to individuals and families and helped almost in uh nearly a thousand individuals return to permanent housing.

Most importantly, families are not only exiting homelessness, they are staying housed.

In physical year 2025, 68% of families and couple clients exiting intermediarome housing moved into permanent housing up from 57 percent the previous year.

And 96% of those who secured permanent housing maintained it for at least 12 months.

The stabil the stability uh demonstrates that when families receive safe shelter and a community to uh continue improving, learning more resources.

Um I think one of the council members mentioned the $200 clipper card they can uh access through uh the their core agency.

Um need for public transportation and and uh how our families utilize that very uh very uh the need is there for for those type of uh public services.

So uh we're just extremely grateful for everyone and your consideration and your time, um, and thank you for allowing me to present uh the the pleasure of allegiance.

You made me sweat in the uh right in the beginning there.

So I do appreciate it.

So thank you.

Carlos Reyes.

Good evening, Mayor, uh, mayors of the city council and city staff.

My name is Carlos Reyes, program manager with the Renaissance Entrepreneurship Center, uh overseeing our work in South San Francisco.

Thank you for their opportunity to share how CDBG funding is supporting small businesses and small business owners in South City.

With this funding, we provide business classes and one-on-one consulting to residents starting or growing small businesses.

Many of the entrepreneurs we support are family child care providers, home-based food businesses, janitorial services, artisan makers, and small retail operators.

Most clients begin in one of our in-depth courses and then continue with individualized consulting as they uh put their plans into action.

On average, this year, each South San Francisco client has completed 13 hours of coursework and seven hours of one-on-one consulting.

Our support is practical and hands-on.

We review income and expenses, plan for slower months, strengthen pricing and marketing, and build systems that support long-term stability.

Since July, we have served 35 South San Francisco residents and business owners.

Of those, 21 have completed the CDBG income eligibility process.

We are continuing to work toward our annual goal of serving 40 eligible residents.

CDBG funding has historically anchored our work in this community.

It ensures we remain focused on serving low-to-moderate income residents and maintain a consistent local presence.

We also braid additional funding to expand services beyond those counted strictly under CDPG.

That flexibility is important.

As business owners grow, they may move beyond income eligibility guidelines, but growth is still complex.

Systems, permits, taxes, and financing remain challenging, especially for first-generation entrepreneurs.

Continued support during that transition strength strengthens both the business and the local economy.

We value the city's partnership and are proud to support South San Francisco residents as they build businesses that contribute to long-term economic stability.

Thank you for your continued support.

Thank you, Mr.

Reyes.

Thank you.

We'll proceed with Laura Fenuki, followed by Melissa Logan.

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the council, and city staff.

I'm Laura Fenuki, Director of Programs at HIP Housing.

I was here a couple weeks ago presenting our calendars, so nice to see you all again.

HIP Housing takes a holistic trauma-informed approach to housing assistance and supportive services tailored to the needs of our low-income residents here in San Mateo County.

Each year we provide housing to about 1,200 individuals through our programs and properties, and we have about 60 residents here in South San Francisco that are being housed either at our commercial property or for our through our three social service programs.

This funding application goes to support our four social service programs, and those include our home sharing program, which matches persons who have extra space in their home with people who are seeking housing.

We have about 21 South San Francisco residents who are home sharing in our program right now.

73% of them are older adults, and with an average home sharing match stay of six years, which is a really significant.

And we have a very long-standing home-sharing match here that's been going on for 14 years here in South San Francisco.

Secondly, our self-sufficiency program, which works with low-income families with children and transitional age foster youth.

For the parents who are enrolled in school, we help to provide the family with housing and coaching support for a year to five years.

We have five families here in South San Francisco who are in our self-sufficiency program, representing five adults and nine children.

And the parents are pursuing degrees in nursing, health care, accounting, social work, and criminal justice.

And then our housing readiness program where we counsel low-income seniors on how to apply for affordable housing here in our communities.

And we have eight seniors right now who are working with here in South San Francisco.

And about 80% of the seniors that we work with in this program are not already enrolled in the county's subsidized housing portal called Rent Cafe, which is critical to their ability to be notified when subsidized housing opportunities become available.

We helped one senior secure housing here at Magnolia Plaza, and we're helping to subsidize the housing with the housing scholarship for him.

And he exited the shelter.

We're also really proud to partner with LifeMuse.

We're happy to see Miguel here.

We're doing a lot more outreach in the family shelters and the shelters for single individuals to notify them about our housing programs as a transitional way for them to find housing.

And lastly, our housing resource hub, which provides affordable housing information to anybody who contacts our organization.

So we're very happy for the support that you've provided to our organization.

One of our new housing readiness programs seniors who lives here in South San Francisco, who exited the shelter, said I can finally breathe and think about my future.

So thank you very much for your support.

Okay.

Thank you, Ms.

Panuki.

Good evening.

My name is Melissa Lucan.

I'm the executive director of Rebuilding Together Peninsula.

I appreciate the opportunity to address you all this evening.

Our mission, as you probably know, is to repair homes, revitalize communities, and rebuild lives.

And in real terms, we ensure that the peninsula's most vulnerable homeowners, those with little to no income, those with disabilities, veterans, traditionally marginalized populations, don't have to choose between paying for groceries and living in a safe and healthy home.

And moreover, we prevent displacement, preserve affordable home ownership, and retain the diverse fabric of the community with concrete long-lasting solutions.

For over 37 years, we've been doing this work.

We've repaired over 4200 facilities and homes throughout San Mateo County, and of those served last year, 100% were low-income.

73% of the households had uh senior living in the home, and almost 65% had someone with a disability.

We offer no-cost repairs in two primary programs.

One is our volunteer-driven program, usually run in April and October, and the other is our Save at Home program, which functions throughout the year and provides uh critical home repairs, including modifications that allow seniors and those with disabilities to age in place and to uh reduce the threat of injury or accident, including falls.

The main objective of both programs, though, is the same to provide low-income homeowners the access to free home services that enable them to live in pest-free, dry, non-contaminated uh homes that uh serve the National Center for Healthy Housing's principles of Healthy Homes.

But from our surveys, it appears it's working.

Ninety-five percent rated our work as good or excellent, eighty-three percent reported being able to move around their homes with little or no difficulty after the work was completed.

Nearly 90% said they had a reduction in their mental health stress, as well as their impression that they would be able to age in place as a result of the work that was done.

And lastly, nearly two-thirds agreed that as a result of the repairs, their chance of being hospitalized had been had been reduced as well.

But of course, it's always best to hear from the homeowners themselves, one of whom who said because of RTP.

And another said that I enjoy being able to help live uh volunteer who said they were able to help someone reclaim their their home as a safe space.

Our 25 contract uh was our city beaching contract was extended, and we're very grateful for that.

Uh the HUD delay in signing contracts with you, of course, delayed our ability to uh plan and and to deliver on those um deliverables in the 26th contract we signed in January.

Uh the city decided to use the PLHA funds which was um mentioned earlier rather than CDBG to help mitigate the contract delays that we've been experiencing.

We thank you.

We're excited to see how that funding stream works for both of us.

And lastly, uh our eight homes in South San Francisco that are awaiting repairs.

We don't expect any trouble in this coming year, and we appreciate your support.

Thanks.

Thank you, Ms.

Lucan.

Moving on to Juan Molina, followed by Karen Ferguson.

Good evening, council.

Uh my name is Juan Molina.

I'm the shelter manager at Safe Harbor down in South San Francisco.

Uh it's an honor to speak with you today.

Um, and I want to express our deepest gratitude uh for your steadfast support of our mission uh to provide shelter and essential services for individuals experiencing homelessness in our community.

Your commitment has truly made a difference.

Safe Harbor has operated since 2001 as an uh emergency adult shelter.

We currently provide 105 units for clients with additional space uh available to support police departments and homeless outreach teams and placing emergency clients.

We currently uh are the only congregate shelter in North County.

Thanks to the city support.

City Forward has been able to meet critical need in our community.

During the last fiscal year, we served 156 South San Francisco residents, exceeding our projected number of 90.

Uh of those served and clients secured permanent housing and 47 clients transitioned into temporary housing situations.

The work we do is challenging, but without your support, but with your support, excuse me, we were able to offer more than just a roof over someone's head.

We provide food, counseling, addiction recovery services, job plates and assistance, medical care and mental health support.

We also work uh to build an encouraging community through client achievement celebrations and open invitations to participate in uh lived experience advisory groups.

This partnership allows us to obtain uh valuable feedback that we use to continually improve our service delivery.

In addition, we are in the process of implementing on-site mental health services through collaborations with Health Rate 360.

This is uh one example of the many partnerships we maintain with agencies and volunteers uh throughout the county.

Every day, our dedicated staff works tirelessly to ensure that individuals who enter safe harbor not only receive not only shelter but dignity, hope, and the services needed to rebuild their lives.

We discover their potential and rejoin their communities as productive members of society.

The impact, your support, the impact of your support extends beyond the walls of our shelter and strengthens the very foundation of our community.

Homelessness is a complex issue, and while we are our work's far from over, uh, your continued involvement enables us to make meaningful progress.

Thank you again for your generosity and support.

Your commitment offers hope to those who need it most, and for that we are deeply grateful.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Marina.

So this is 2001 you began in South San Francisco.

I do believe it was, I don't want to misinform, but I do believe those either ninety-eight, it was or two thousand and one created as an emergency shelter wasn't supposed to be something permanent and has never closed since.

25 years, it's remarkable.

Something to be celebrated.

Let us know if you're gonna have a celebration.

I welcome, I welcome you guys to visit any time and support.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good evening.

I'm Karen Ferguson.

I'm the CEO with CORA community overcoming relationship abuse.

It's my pleasure to address you and to express our deep appreciation for South San Francisco's consistent partnership with CORA.

Your ongoing support through CWG funding is critical.

The current request for funding is in uh is pooled together with other funds to sustain Cora's safe house program, which is emergency shelter that is essential for survivors seeking safety and stability from domestic violence.

For many, especially those with children, leaving abuse means navigating a complex and intimidating system, and Cora meets survivors across that continuum from our 24-7 hotline and safe house emergency shelter that has 28 beds to our free mental health and legal services.

Your funding directly supports Cora's safe house program covering all of the infrastructure required to operate it from the residential and facult uh facility staffing, essential supplies, and all the utilities and insurance that keep our doors open.

Currently, primarily funding for the only domestic violent shelter in San Mateo County comes from CDBG funding, supplemented by limited state support.

More than 20% of San Mateo County residents live at or below the federal poverty level.

And so for survivors often fleeing with children, this creates an immediate financial barrier to safety.

So CORA responds to every request for shelter, whether it's through 911 law enforcement referrals, keller center, or our hotline.

And when no safe alternative exists, we provide immediate hotel placement and access for safe house admission nearly 100% of the time when a survivor needs and wants safe house, we are able to provide that placement.

And that includes the residents from South San Francisco.

And clients transition from our safe house program into our housing assistance program, where we have nearly a million dollars in rental subsidies that support moves into permanent housing.

At a time when social service funding is increasingly constrained, we are deeply grateful to South San Francisco for considering Cora's request and for ensuring that survivors of intimate partner abuse have access to the emergency protection that they need.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Ms.

Ferguson.

And lastly, we have David Carducci.

Thank you.

Good evening, Council members.

My name is David Carducci.

I am the directing attorney for the housing team at the Legal Aid Society of San Mateo County.

Legal Aid Society provides free legal services to our low-income residents throughout the county, including City of South San Francisco, of course.

The mission of the housing team is to prevent homelessness, and we do that by trying to keep people in their affordable homes.

Try to prevent illegal and unfair evictions from occurring so they can stay in their homes.

We represent people in court and we advocate for their rights out of court.

We currently hold a weekly legal clinic right here in the city of South San Francisco at the YMCA Community Resource Center.

We appreciate our partnership with them hosting us uh weekly to see uh tenants face to face with when they're in a housing crisis.

Um the state of the uh housing is difficult for in this county for low-income residents.

Uh evictions in the county are up 60 percent, six zero percent from 2019 to 2025.

Um evictions happen for many different reasons, but non-payment of rent is the majority of the cases still.

Um, high rents and wages that are not keeping up with those rents is a primary uh reason we see that.

Um, one financial setback can put somebody in trouble and put their housing at risk.

In some cases, the tenants do owe the money because they've gotten behind in their rent, and in other cases, the landlord has made errors or made illegal charges.

Um, just recently I had a tenant from South San Francisco living in a BMR unit come to us, and he had a letter from the uh city uh housing staff here, and appreciated uh the staff had caught that this BMR uh unit may be overcharging this low-income person, and he was being threatened with eviction, and he was wondering what to do, and like I said, appreciate that the city had caught this, and hopefully it'll get worked out before it um becomes more of a problem.

Um, so uh the point is um they need legal assistance, even when they do owe the money, we can help uh negotiate a settlement that works.

Um, I have a case where landlord attorney was trying to charge two thousand dollars in legal fees to settle a case where the tenant was trying to pay their back rent, and they didn't even have the they were overcharging the tenant even a thousand dollars, and they had the numbers wrong.

So the tenants do need legal assistance to uh, you know, to get the help they need to try to stay in their home.

Um, our services are effective.

We keep people in their homes about 60 percent of the times when we're representing them, and the other 40 percent, we are able to get them a better situation to help them prevent uh them from becoming homeless.

So we appreciate the city's past support and uh appreciate future support.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Corducci, for your advocacy.

Hey, my apologies.

We have one more speaker, Ryan Campania.

I apologize, Ryan.

You were on my list.

And while Ryan is coming to the podium, I do want to acknowledge there was an e-comment submitted by Melanie Fuhr with Upwards Care.

Good evening.

Thank you.

Um my name is Ron Campania.

I am the director of programs at Friends for Youth.

Um, we are here requesting service for six students in South San Francisco Unified School District.

Uh, we serve more than that throughout the area, but we're just gonna apply that funding to these six.

Uh, we're requesting thirteen thousand two hundred dollars, it's uh twenty, two hundred dollars per person that we serve.

Uh we do mentoring services.

So we have two main programs that we provide to the community.

We do one-to-one mentoring where we take referrals from any school counselor, probation officers, and then pair those individuals with a mentor that is gonna you know provide them guidance through life.

And how we've been showing up a little bit more in South San Francisco is in the schools.

We do group mentoring.

So we give a one adult to 10 student staff ratio, um, and we have a 30-week curriculum of social emotional learning that we roll out to all of the students.

It's been a pretty exciting year for us in South City.

Um, we finally got proper approvals for an MOU to work through the South San Francisco School District.

Um, I got a shout out Dr.

Garcia for his help.

We started in a collaborative space and he really helped us get into the schools.

Um I have been the one serving South San Francisco High School for the last couple weeks.

Uh, we've been working with the librarian there, and we're starting on like the peer leadership.

So they have a program where students mentor, like seniors or juniors mentor freshmen and sophomores.

So we're entering into that space as well.

Um I've also been working with other representatives from the district.

Uh next month I will be joining an assistant principals collaborative to see how we can work uh throughout the district a little bit more.

One of the ways that we've worked in Redwood City is following students from elementary to middle to high school and providing that consistency of social emotional learning.

Um, and we would love to replicate that here in South San Francisco.

This money is enough for us to do one group.

Uh, since I said you know, we serve more than those six students, our organization does fundraising outside of this to still be able to provide these services.

So, yeah, thank you for listening, and I'm happy to answer any questions with the rest of the time.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

Campania.

Any questions for him?

Thanks.

Thank you, Mayor.

Now that concludes come.

And do we have any public comments generally?

Sorry, are there any public comments generally in the room?

Not for this, just the one E.

Yeah, okay.

Um, so there's no action this evening.

So that completes the item, and we'll move along.

Close the public.

And I should close the public hearing.

Thank you.

See, you're a you're a mayor more fresh than I go back like five years.

We're closing the public hearing and moving along.

Thank you, Mayor.

We will now move on to administrative business item number 13 is a report regarding a resolution approving the lease and concessionary agreement between the city of South San Francisco and Mata MV Corporation doing business as Morning Vibes Cafe to operate a cafe at the Library Parks and Recreation Center.

Item 13A is the resolution.

Good evening, Mayor Adiego, Vice Mayor Nagales, and members of the city council.

My name is Han Xing Wong.

I'm a management analyst at the Parks and Recreation and Library Departments.

Tonight I am providing an update on the cafe concessions at the Library Parks and Recreation Center and requesting the approval of a lease agreement for a cafe to operate at the third floor lobby of 901 Civic Campus Way.

I'm sorry.

Um we are here tonight presenting an overview of the CAFE RFP process and making our recommendation to approve a lease agreement with Haiti M.

Mata and Victor G.

Caicero.

Operating as Mata MV Corporation doing business as Morning Vibes Cafe.

We would like to recommend that the city council approve a 36 month lease agreement with Morning Vibes Cafe to operate here in this building.

The Library Parks and Recreation Center Cafe RFP envisions activating an approximately 192 square foot space for community gathering, social interaction, and studying.

The location of the cafe will be at the third floor lobby.

The RFP key lease terms include a community service plan, which the operator plans to be active in the community or support local nonprofit organizations.

The cafe is expected to operate a minimum of six hours per day, six days a week, and there is a preference for local hiring, favoring local businesses based in South San Francisco, owned by South San Francisco residents, or by graduates of the Economic Advancement Center.

The first RFP was issued on June 2025.

The RFP was advertised through multiple channels.

Vendors submitted proposals.

However, none met all RFP submission requirements and were deemed non responsive.

This initial round informed refinements to the application process, including the development of a detailed submission checklist.

The second RFP was issued on August 28th with a mandatory site visit on September 23rd and proposals due on October 23rd.

The second RFP was publicized through the same channels as the first RFP, including various newsletters, the South San Francisco Chambers of Commerce, OpenGov, Flyers, social media, and mailed letters to businesses, business permit holders identified as food operators.

Vendors from the first RFP were notified of the second RFP and invited to reapply.

Seven new vendors attended a mandatory site visit, of which four later submitted applications.

Applications were evaluated based on project and vendor qualifications, menu quality selection and affordability, relevant vendor qualifications such as business plan, readiness, and financial capacity, proposed community service plan, rent and revenue share proposal.

Based on the proposal evaluation, Morning Vibes Cafe's proposal received the highest overall score of the four responsive applications.

The review panel for the proposals and interviews consisted of staff from economic and community development, parks and recreation, and library departments.

Morning Vibes Cafe is owned by Haiti M.

Mata and Victor G.

Caicero, who are also the owners of Morning Vibes Cafe in San Francisco and Antigua Coffee Shop in South San Francisco.

Daily on-site management support will be provided to Cafe staff during morning opening hours to ensure smooth operations.

All food preparation will take place off-site, keeping the on-site kitchens fully available for other uses.

The menu will feature espresso-based beverages, brewed coffee, teas, and non-coffee options such as hot chocolate and smoothies, alongside a selection of bagos, artisan breads, pastries, yogurt parfait, fresh fruit salads, salads, and cake slices.

The tenant is a well-established local cafe operator with a strong community presence and an excellent reputation.

Tenant improvements will consist primarily of freestanding or modular elements, allowing for easy installation or removal as needed.

The tenant, Morning Vibes Cafe will be occupying approximately 192 square feet here in this building located on the third floor lobby.

The lease includes a base rent of 240 per month, plus a percentage of monthly grill sales, 3% in year one, 3.5% in year two, and 4% from year three onward.

The initial term is 36 months with the option to renew for up to three additional 12th minute periods.

The security deposit is a thousand dollar, and the anticipated move-in time frame is about two months after delivery around the spring or summer 2026.

There will be no cost or negative impact to the general fund.

Applied against a minimum monthly rent up to a maximum of $720, essentially a waiver of three months' rent during the anticipated tenant improvement period.

After city council approval, the lease will be executed, and tenant improvement will begin.

The grant openings plan for late spring or summer 2026 with a public announcement to be made at a future city council meeting.

Thank you for joining us today.

We appreciate your time and attention.

We're excited for this wonderful community amenity at the Library Park Center Recreation Center, and we are happy to see Haiti and Victor who are here tonight in support of our presentation.

We are happy to answer any questions.

Thank you, Ms.

Wong.

Before we get into general conversation, I want you to know that you know I I in reading the staff report, um, I kind of tripped over um there was one line there where it talked about projected sales and net revenue are estimated at approximately 3300 per month, and it didn't make a lot of sense because those are two different things.

And so I started to look at the numbers and um and I asked for some of the supporting documents to see how we got to this recommendation.

And um, you know, specifically, you know, if you look at if you look at the scoring sheet that was provided in the staff report um and the values that are given for different elements of that scoring sheet.

I was a little perplexed when I looked at the rent and revenue share proposal was at a value of four point nine percent to the the whole um scoring system, which seems like if um you know if you're trying to um at lease something that uh it should be a little bit more important than four point nine percent of the total decision maker, and and there were others that scored a little bit higher on that.

Um so I I was able to um ask for the supporting documents for um and actually the city manager put had uh the staff put together what's called a cheat sheet that kind of compares um the different proposals.

So the proposal the staff is recommending is uh three percent in the first year, moving up by a half a percent in the next two years, and then uh the other proposal was for um a monthly rent of one thousand dollars as a base with a five percent um uh five percent on sales up to twenty thousand, and then if it was over that it would go up to eight percent.

Um you know what what it was interesting because just a week or so ago we were at the conference center, we were talking about a similar situation where you have a longtime caterer in an operation that brings in a lot of people that eat a lot of food, but the conference center, I think if I remember correctly, um the the share for the conference center was thirty-three percent, thirty-three percent.

Um so this is a whole different animal, but um I think that when it comes to um you know the terms of a lease and the price.

Uh I think that the council might want to be a little bit more involved in understanding that and looking at what we're really putting in there, you know, because there is some interest in there being more catering, which could ultimately be um a good source of revenue for the city and this building if um if they had uh you know access to the kitchen and like this morning when we were having the youth in government day and we brought in food from uh another business.

Well, if we had a caterer here and we want them to be successful, they could have provided that, and and you know, as the well, anyway, the city would benefit by their success.

So I was hoping that um, you know, I don't know if this is proper but if we're talking about the terms of a lease and and the price at some point wouldn't we be in closed session to discuss that as a council.

Uh if council would like to do that it is a permissible basis for a closed session discussion.

So we could certainly schedule that for a future meeting if that was I'd like to um maybe postpone this just this evening and and ask that all this extra data become each of your burden.

And and then we'd spend a little time in closed session to look at really what we're trying to establish here.

I I wanted to congratulate Councilman Flores for pushing this through I had attempted to do it a year earlier but it didn't go anywhere.

But you got it started and it's a little overdue.

Yeah and just uh so folks understand the context um when we opened this beautiful building uh I believe 2024 was it October November 23.

23 sorry november twenty three I always envisioned to have a place where we as a community could also provide nourishment.

I think back of my days when I was in college and I had to pack up my laptop, pack up my backpack, lose my very coveted studying space because I was hungry and I wanted to go get some coffee and then come back and it was all over.

So I said I see a lot of people actually taking interviews and Zoom calls, adults working from this and I said why don't we provide them with nourishment so that's where that started I joked around with Sharon.

I said you and I will have that first cup of coffee and this new uh cafe whatever uh we we thought so it didn't pan out but I'm still gonna invite her for coffee when this pans out um so that's where it stemmed from I'm I'm happy that staff park and rec staff library staff and and everyone else that supported put this much uh work and effort.

Thank you for for uh making this our reality because I think it's also improving the quality of life for those that are here in this building as well.

So just a question on the request.

So is it a qu is a quite request to postpone this item and then to kind of discuss catering as like a larger these are two different concepts that that each is offering and the staff has kind of determined that one is more appropriate but I'd like the council to really understand you know what the terms of the lease might be and what that might mean to the success of the operation overall.

Sure thank you.

And uh recently I I planned an event with a venue and and the venue didn't have a single caterer but they had a handful of pre-approved caterers referred preferred caters and then if you use one of the preferred caters they they actually waived the the food fee that the venue had and so I'm wondering maybe we could think of that right there is there a handful of caterers who would um you would they they are experienced and they know what our kitchen looks like and they can use it effectively and and thus we're also supporting local South City businesses and so um just uh an experience that I had recently that could fold in well to this I think this is a great start but I think we could be a little bit more aggressive in what we're ultimately offering.

Quick question for for staff Hangqing was did the uh applicant say that they didn't want to do catering or was that staff that suggested that that wasn't an option.

Um when we went up when we went out for the RFP it was our understanding that was going to be a community amenity um that was going to benefit the community as a whole rather than a revenue um generating um cafe for us.

So they weren't even given an option then there is applicants weren't given an option to propose catering.

Um we were open to considering use of the kitchen but just in comparison uh considering the three proposers that we interviewed um it was really clear that the other two were very dependent on using our kitchen so it's not necessarily that we would just say no to all kitchen use, but more knowing that we have the comfort they have a commissary kitchen, you know, off-site, they have the ability to replenish um their stock as needed without relying solely on our kitchen as well as catering business.

Um certainly Antigua is a well-known caterer in the community, and we would work with them if there was catering business, if there were things like youth in government day.

Um so that would be negotiated.

It was more just that um the others seem to rely on catering business as well as use of our kitchen, which would eliminate use for other programmed activities, right?

And also, for example, we rent out the both the social hall and the both of these halls, right?

And many times those groups bring their own catering and use the kitchen for their own particular use.

And we're asking for this applicant to be available on Saturdays many times, Fridays and Saturdays.

Outside groups also bring in their own caterer, right?

Correct, correct.

And um part of our consideration, some of the other vendors wanted to negotiate prioritization or so sole use catering for this building.

And um, you know, that was something that staff didn't want to really consider at the time just to allow community members to find what's the most economical or you know, style of things.

And that's exactly what I'm tripping over.

The staff didn't want to accommodate that.

I think we need to understand it before we turn staff loose on what we should be accommodating.

Yeah, the understanding of what we really want would be very clear.

And how can we accomplish that?

It doesn't matter who's whose um uh whose corner it falls in, it's really what what do we want out of that space?

And I hadn't I hadn't thought, I mean, this was the beginning was to have a little spot where you could pick up something to notch on in a hot beverage, but maybe it could be more than that.

And I don't know who gets it, but maybe if if we're willing to look at it a little differently, there might be a different level of interest, and there's nothing to be ashamed about collecting revenue.

I know it's not popular in government, but there's nothing to be ashamed about that.

So if I have a consensus, I'd appreciate a little more time to look at this.

I I agree that we there should be an alignment between our expectation and you know the expectations.

However, in the kitchen, isn't there classes that you also hold in the kitchen?

Just so that's why we won't be able to, just in case we won't be able to really have a caterer that will be using exclusively our kitchen.

We have programmed activities in the kitchen.

Um currently no study classes, but different um programs take advantage of the kitchen right pretty regularly in addition to the private rentals, and and that's another thing that we have to take into consideration, yes.

Right.

What do they need?

Do they need the entire kitchen all hours of the day or so I think that's that's the first thing we have to have an alignment on our expectations and what to do with that space.

Well, you're right, it's been almost uh two years now, all almost three years, two and a half.

Yeah.

Just question then so where does this leave the applicant and the application process and timeline and all the staff time that has gone into it?

Are we going back to square one?

Is that what we're proposing as a council or well?

I think that's what will happen because you know there's no alignment of what because in the beginning I thought that was just for the cafe.

That was the intention when we had designed this, right?

If I'm correct, if I remember it correctly, the design was to have a little cafe.

And now I think we have to re-evaluate, knowing that you know, revenue, of course, additional revenue is not is really what we wanted, so we did envision the third floor space as a future cafe, and um if council will allow me to add a comment.

Um, this is a a pilot.

We we view this as a pilot project, so um I appreciate Mayor Adiego's comments.

It does bring to light you know other considerations for what it means for LPR to have a cafe space, and we can certainly work on you know aligning what what that means to us now that we've seen it in writing and the impacts.

Is there a way that we could, I don't know, to a certain degree, maybe consider this a pilot exclusively just for what is it, the third floor, and then we as a council with Laura then give direction on on the catering aspect of it so that they're both kind of interrelated but not directly connected, and we could still considered a revenue component for the catering.

Like James was saying, preferred caterer for the commercial kitchen.

I just, you know, what wouldn't want to delay this for our community's purpose.

I'm I'm suggesting, you know, a month or two delay and a pilot program that is three years as you locked in for a good amount of time.

Um and really when I look at the potential of the revenue that might be available, um, I think it's worth a couple of months wait to make sure that we're not walking past something that's more desirable both for the building for the people that visit and and the bottom line.

So we get so maybe we uh have to wait for a little bit more time so that we will all be aligned and and our discussion will be.

I don't know how long it would take.

I mean, I I just want this my colleagues to evaluate what I've seen in closed session um format where we can talk about terms and price and as we as we currently know it, we could um for the rights and terms under negotiation for the specific um uh item in front of you.

Uh we believe that we could bring that to a closed session in March.

Okay.

Okay.

With your concurrence, is that acceptable?

Sometime in March.

Okay, all right.

So that completes that item.

Thank you.

That's all we need on this item.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor.

We will now move on to item number 14, which is a report regarding the planning and design for dedicated pickleball courts to be constructed at Orange Memorial Park.

All right, good evening.

Um I'm Greg Mediati, director of Parks and Rec, and I am pleased to present an update on the planning and design for dedicated pickleball course at Orange Park, along with our design team who will go into a bit more detail.

Um, as you may know, pickleball, despite its funny name, uh, continues to be one of the fastest growing sports in the country, and South San Francisco is no exception.

Over the past several years, we've expanded access by striping existing tennis courts at Bury Bury Park, Stone Gate, Westboro Park, and uh piloted a dedicated court at Sellick Park.

Um, while these efforts have helped, um, they have not fully met demand.

Um, and shared use of courts has created some scheduling conflicts and noise concerns by park neighbors.

Um, recognizing the need for this amenity, um, council did approve six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in park construction fees for this endeavor in 24-25.

Um, after some preliminary design and cost estimating um was refined, and an additional 400,000 was secured in fiscal year 25-26, bringing the project total to just a bit over one million dollars, again, fully funded by park construction funds, not impacting the general fund.

Um after a comprehensive sighting study, um, we looked at various parks, um, various locations within parks, um, and a community outreach process and including an acoustic study, which is really key for pickleball, is kind of a noisy sport.

You probably hear about that on the news in some communities.

Um staff and our design team led by Calendar associates are recommending the relocation of the existing skate park at Orange Park to accommodate the new dedicated pickleball courts.

Um, this recommendation is consistent with the Orange Park Master Plan, which already envisions changes to this area and the removal of the skate park and reflects the successful opening of the um new and I think world class and um certainly um by any definition heavily utilized skate park on centennial way that we opened a year and a half ago or so.

And importantly, this proposal has been shaped by community feedback.

So residents, the Parks and Recreation Commission, and others have provided thoughtful input on orientation of the courts, seating, wind screening, lighting controls, queuing systems, accessibility improvements, restroom considerations, and also given advice on programmatically how we make these spaces available for residents first before non-residents.

Some of our courts have seen a lot of folks from San Francisco and elsewhere coming.

So that feedback has been incorporated into the design concept, which you will see in a moment.

And this evening we are seeking the council feedback and just general consensus on the proposed design.

No formal action is necessarily required.

And this project will come back before council at time of bidding.

So I will turn it over to Brian and his team.

Good evening, Mr.

Mayor and Council members.

Brian Fletcher, principal with Calendar Associates Landscape Architects.

I'm joined here tonight with Dania Castro, my project manager, throughout this project.

Really appreciate being able to come before you.

Greg, that was a wonderful summary.

You took almost all my thunder, but I will do my best.

So tonight I just want to go over a few things, the background, which while go in a little bit more detail from Greg's, the process, and what exactly would the next steps be.

Is it not showing up on your screens?

We got it.

Oh, great.

Oh, the buzz, yeah, I hear it.

Um, just to give you an orientation on where the project is, you guys are all I'm sure very familiar with Orange Park and where this this is, but this map aerial kind of shows shows that.

So north is straight up.

Uh, you can see Orange Avenue and the entire Orange Memorial Park.

The existing skate park is the location and it's marked with the star.

Um, and it's adjacent to the bocce ball facility, which is to just to the right.

Uh, to the upper right is the tennis court facilities and tennis drive.

Um, just above it to the north is the existing structure that housed some artist studios and such over the years.

Um, hopefully that gives you an orientation on location.

Now, kind of diving into the site itself, um, when we looked at um opportunity sites.

One of the things that very much attracted us to this is that this has been paved over, um, providing a nice base for pickleball courts to be actually utilizing that asphalt.

Um, it's in good, it's in relatively good shape.

We have in the estimate for an overlay, but we are saving a significant amount of money by preserving and utilizing that existing asphalt.

As Greg mentioned, it's consistent with the Orange Mark Orange Park Master Plan, which went through an extensive public outreach process back in 2001 and 2002 to locate pickleball courts in this general uh vicinity.

Um, you know, just to just to give you a little bit more orientation, taking a look at the two photographs in the middle.

The upper one is pointing to the south, and you can see the eucalyptus trees that are bordering Colma Creek, and that's also an existing corporation yard just on the opposite side of that fence.

And then on the bottom center, you can see the existing structure that would be to the north side of the site.

This is an aerial kind of zoomed in onto the existing site.

So you can see Eucalyptus Avenue, which is that loop road that comes off of Tennis Drive, runs around Colma Creek, and then by the Fernices building.

You can see the botchy facility on the right hand side, the artist studio, the buildings on the upper, and then you can see the city corp yard down below.

One thing to point out is just the general wind direction, comfort, and usability during the design process certainly came up, so we wanted to make sure that we're addressing the wind that was coming from the west into the site.

As Greg mentioned, the site is currently a skate park, but it is consistent with that master planning process and was discussed during both the Orange Park Master Plan as well as Centennial Way Master Plan for the desire for Centennial Way to have a series of skate spaces along the way rather than a dedicated skate park itself.

Then since the opening of that new skate park, there has been a dramatic decrease in the use of this site.

We know staff and ourselves will be continuing looking for opportunity sites to relocate because there is some equipment there that still is has some lifespan and some mobility and some usability.

We are still looking for locations to relocate those, and we see a real opportunity on Centennial Way, the next phase, Centennial Way North, up by the BART station.

And then finally, staff has placed notices out on the site.

These are notices saying this is going to be relocated for purposes of the pickleball courts, and they have I think received no comments based upon the notification that's been out there.

As Greg mentioned, noise is definitely a concern, and there was a test you know, that's a test that was done out there, and that was close to Tennis Drive utilizing the existing courts.

So we actually contracted with Salter Acoustic Engineers to do an evaluation of existing noise levels as well as anticipated noise levels on where this site would be.

So they've used actual readings from the site for existing conditions, and then they used actual readings from a completed project in San Jose about pickleball courts in order to extrapolate or anticipate what the noise levels would be with this new facility.

They also evaluated mitigation measures.

What would be the impact, and I'll show you what these are of putting sound deadening mats actually on the wind instead of windscreens, actually on the fencing, and what the effect that would be.

And it actually was a seven decibel reduction anticipated.

So I can go into more detail, but the result from this study was based upon the location being further away from Tennis Drive, based upon the anticipated mitigations, they are not anticipating any increase in noise level to the adjacent neighbors.

You can see opaque panels on the fencing on the left-hand side.

And then believe it or not, because of the popularity of pickleball, there really is an explosion of kind of new materials and new equipment coming out.

And one of those is actually transparent panels.

So the option, the item on the right, those clear sections are actually continue to be sound deadening panels, but they're transparent.

So off of eucalyptus, we see that as a real opportunity to provide some visibility into the site for safety and security, but at the same time not impacting the sound deadening qualities of it.

So with all that information, we started to develop some initial designs.

And this was the design that we took to a variety of public meetings.

And you can see, if you remember the aerial, this is the we're using from eucalyptus over.

The initial design was for five pickleball courts to be placed, as well as utilizing the extent of the asphalt for additional parking in the area.

This was providing 16 parking stalls.

The site itself, and I'll show this on the refined design, actually, has good access to the large parking lot by the Fernices building with the walkway that goes between the tennis courts and the bocce facilities, which is directly on the right-hand side there.

Other elements on this were solar power lighting, as well as the colorful coloring there was to denote the pedestrian zones because cars would be in close proximity, just to highlight where pedestrians would be.

So we took that to first the Halloween extravaganza, and we had a pop-up event and showed those alternatives, or showed that alternative.

And this is just some of the highlights of the feedback that we received, generally supportive of the concept, and definitely supportive of the study that we did for the sound.

Always request for more because of the popularity.

Can we fit more?

And we'll get to that in a second.

New facilities are popping up with actually seating within the courts, creating a bullpen zone that's within the larger fencing, but then providing lower fencing separating the bullpen from the actual courts.

Windscreens, lighting, concern about just being overused because they understand the popularity of it, so wanting to make sure is that they have availability and some openness of courts.

We then brought that same design, continuing with the outreach to the public meeting, the parks and recognition meeting.

We had some additional people at that meeting as well, which was wonderful.

So again, there were some suggestions coming out of that for reconfiguration, adding another court, talking about those bull pens, talking about additional site amenities that would be useful, and those would be um oh, where is it?

The paddle racks, right?

How I'm gonna be waiting for my my court to open up.

How do I how do I put my spot in line and make sure that it gets there?

So there's some great back and forth feedback that we took back to the drawing tip board, and then we revised the design and what you see in front of you tonight as the proposal.

The highlights of this one, first and foremost, you'll see it's gone from five courts to six courts, and we evaluated the cost implications based upon this, and you'll see it in a second.

It's still within budget to continue to get another court.

The impact of that is the reduction of parking along eucalyptus.

However, like I said, you can see the walkway extension up to the upper right-hand corner that would come down from the large parking lot that has capacity that would bring users over.

We still have eight stalls plus one ADA stall for a total of nine stalls on site in close proximity to be used as well.

So within those six courts, there's a large perimeter fence that would have the sound deadening material.

Within that perimeter fence, you can see in the blue zone is the bullpen.

That would be areas for players to wait for their court to become free.

There is low fencing that separates the bullpen from the courts themselves and also between the courts as well.

We also added the amenities, whether it's the benching or the um the paddle racks and such that were mentioned.

So, as Greg mentioned, the budget was just over a million dollars.

We've gone through and broken out the estimate into a significant amount of detail.

We're estimating construction costs at 770,000.

We have contingencies within there that brings up the estimated total to 855,000.

We are still working with the sound engineer and evaluating the front area between between the courts and the building to the north.

Right now is projected to be a windscreen only, and not necessary for sound deadening.

It was um in its current condition because the building is there.

But when that building comes down, you're gonna want to put sound deadening material there to replace the the positive impacts that that building is providing for that sound attenuation.

So that's what that bid alternate is to actually uh install that sound deadening now instead of just plain windscreen.

So that brings us up to the next steps.

You can see we're here in late February.

Based upon your feedback tonight, we're hoping to move forward into uh more detailed construction drawings, which we would have bid submittal ready to go and present back to you back in uh sometime in April or maybe early May, which would then go out to a bid period award and construction.

We're hoping to have this um you know installed and in use in the fall.

Um again, we're reutilizing the existing surfacing.

It's gonna take down the construction period and the construction timing of a project like this.

So with that, I'm available for any questions and that you may have.

Thank you.

Okay, who'd like to start?

I can start.

Um let me kind of start with the the skate park, the new one since we were talking about e-bikes earlier.

As I ride by e-bike on Santana Trail following the rules, I have noticed that our new skate park is is phenomenal and um really just great.

And so um what I wanted to say about the I guess the first skate park is just the scenery is just terrible.

It's run down, it's not very welcoming.

So I I actually I like the fact that we're trying to like bring something new to that space, and pickleball is extremely popular, um, and so um I can just see crowds, but you know, people coming to this site, um and waiting to and play.

And one of the things I wanted to ask was, you know, that area is very windy, and you've kind of touched upon some aspects of trying to do the wind.

And you were talking about, I guess, the transparent panels.

Yeah.

Could that also help with the wind?

Well, absolutely.

So um, if you look at this drawing that's actually up there right now, you can see the red line.

Yeah, um, and then on eucalyptus, we've actually kind of have a red, yellow, red, yellow.

Okay, the red line is where we would put the solid panels up.

Um, and the red and yellow, yellow representing the transparent panels, would vary between solid and transparent.

So wherever you see that color, that's gonna have the sound deadening material that will also provide the wind protection as well.

And then the area that's uh on the blue that's adjacent to the parking that would receive windscreen as well, and that's that alternate that we're talking about, or I talked about that could be additional sound deadening material.

So the things that go well with us, we're looking at a 10-foot fence, we're looking at nine-foot tall windscreens, we've got all those existing eucalyptus trees on Colma, and that's where the wind is coming from.

So we have some natural windbreaks already with the tall eucalyptus trees.

We're adding the wind um the sound-deadening panels to provide some additional wind protection.

So there wasn't any conversations about trying to enclose it in terms of putting it on top because I was probably put it over the budget or yes, okay.

I was just thinking about the width of the um so this is six courts.

That's that's a lot in terms of is have you is this one of the largest in terms of pickleball courts in the peninsula?

I wouldn't say the largest.

I mean, that the when we we put up a photograph at the very beginning of a project we did for um Hayward Area Recreation District, and and quite quite frankly got a lot of inspiration about that effort because it was an old bank site that had a whole lot of foundations out there, and it was almost treated as a quick build.

How do we get how do we activate this space?

That's just a bunch of foundations really quickly.

And and part of that was a significant amount of pickleball courts that we did an overlay on and were able to do those.

I forget exactly how many, but I think there might have been a couple more than the six, but it is on the larger side, yes.

And then and just to go back to noise.

I know that you you did a kind of preliminary monitoring of the noise, but if let's say as we build this out and games are playing, because now you're gonna have more people, you're also gonna have noise from people who are there, and then obviously the pickleball is really what the main concern is.

Is there a I guess this is more of the money in the budget in terms of future conversations, but is there additional things we can do to put more sound gap being on the court once it's completed and there's uh let's say people are complaining that about the noise that's that it's still still not enough.

Yeah, there's there would be some additional, and there also um because this is not just a unique thing for your project in your site, it's it's something that we um kind of face on any any pickleball project, it's it's just the nature.

They are advancing uh there are there are advancements in both the paddle and the ball to reduce the amount of noise that those generate.

Um so there could be additional physical features, but right now you do have that building that's there that's gonna provide some of that, and you do have this is now almost as central as you can be within the park, um, as far away from the neighbors as you can get.

Um, you know, but but there would be you could go taller fencing, you can go taller sound deadening, and then you can also, as this new technology comes out, um, you know, you can phase that um you can put regulations on.

But even the master plan is still it is still has plans for additional improvements between here, between the pickleball courts and the and the residents.

So there's always gonna be that separation.

There's always gonna be some buffer there.

No, I'm I'm pretty excited about this project.

Uh I think I think it's it's gonna be extremely popular once it's up and running.

Yeah.

Um, one question is anyone currently using the Orange Park skate park right now?

I know we have a new brand new shiny one, but is anyone going to be upset that we're gonna do that?

Um, from time to time there are folks that do use it.

Um I will say the one benefit of that skate park over Centennial is ease of parking.

Um for the Centennial Way skate park, you generally have to park on South Maple and walk, it's maybe 150 feet.

Um so yeah, I mean there are some folks that still use it.

Um, some of our own staff still use it.

Um the comments I've heard are um, you know, so long as you find other locations for that equipment, should be okay.

We thought Centennial Way Park North would be a great opportunity for that um as well.

Um I'm sure some some folks will be um you know inconvenienced, but um for the most part the community goes to Centennial Way South.

Okay.

Um so I'm looking at the map, and do you think six courts is enough?

Uh if you build it, they will come.

Could you put, okay.

So my question is, so I'm I'm kind of like envisioning you know we have six courts, we have parking kind of on top.

Could you put three more on the top left?

Yeah, you might have the answer.

And then in terms of parking, I mean we do have a parking lot already nearby, right?

And if you look at, if you can kind of envision there is a space, right?

There's there's Eucalyptus Avenue, and then there's kind of that brown area top top right between the tennis courts and eucalyptus.

That could that could be a space where you put parking.

If if there's a need for additional parking, yeah.

Um I think at time in which we redevelop where the former courtyard is, that's something we could consider.

Um, one thing you can't see here is that there's a maintenance access drive aisle that goes right just above those K-rails.

So there's little tiny rectangles there to what we call the old farm, the old Mazanti property, which we have to maintain for ease of access for us, our staff, cow water, etc.

So I think that would preclude that.

Um like no parking there?

Is what you're trying to say.

Like above what on that what you're seeing there, above what would be the pedestrian pathway.

Oh, above I see.

Um the new pedestrian connection there.

Okay.

Um that actually in the master plan was considered.

That's so I could do you want to.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I I I think um if you take a look at the master plan, which is kind of the long-term vision of this, it does have the opportunity um, you know, to expand, right?

So in that master plan, Eucalyptus Avenue will be or is proposed to be removed.

So that whole drive lane itself would be proposed for potential park uses.

I think the courtyard is a potential removal.

Um, and then the area where the existing building is will eventually be additional parking to support not only what's going on here, but also the Mizanti property when it gets developed for um ball fields and other uses.

So depending on how that all lays out, you could put more to the north there, even reconfigure that parking and still maintain the same level of parking.

Because we did have proposed um these courts between the tennis courts and eucalyptus Avenue, and what we're finding out is that's probably gonna be too close.

So that could be developed as parking and and additional things could be done here.

Um court five, so there's five tennis courts at the existing tennis complex there.

There's one that's standalone, and that's court five.

Um, and we did do a pilot there, um, to test whether or not you know, consistent with the park master plan, this site would work well for pickleball.

And um, I think I may have done a good job at keeping them at bay, um, because they were coming to me with petitions saying you all the neighbors along Circle Court, you need to remove this, it's far too close to our homes.

Um, and so we removed the nets that the temporary nuts that were there for that pilot, um, and found that it was true that there was too much impact.

So we think that anywhere sort of north of the pedestrian pathway connection is probably a little bit too close to homes.

Well, north of the pedestrian would just be parking, it wouldn't be an additional court, yeah.

Yeah, no, you could definitely be.

I'm thinking courts like you see the six, like, and then the parking top left, like you could probably fit three more, maximize the space, is what I'm trying to say.

And especially if we're going to be taking out eucalyptus, I'm not sure where the timeline is, but we're thinking next couple years, are we thinking next 10 years, right?

Like, why you know paved parking there when it won't be parking in in the master plan in what we're visioning?

Like we could just put three more courts there.

Three courts where the where we are showing parking here, top right, yes.

Yeah, so sorry, top left.

That's the area I was mentioning that would conflict with the vehicle access.

Oh, so you do need vehicle access there right now.

Okay.

Vehicle access.

I get it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Um there is the spoils area, which is just south.

We call it the spoils area.

Um, it's just right below the six pickleball courts you see here.

I'm not sure if that would be large enough.

We might be able to fit one or two more in there.

Um, that's where currently public works and some tree crew debris is sort of staged before it's hauled off.

But the it's another opportunity site to look at.

I want to compliment you on your attempt there because uh I recently I've been clearing out a lot of things that I've accumulated over the years.

So I recently bumped into the master plan for the Orange Park from 2007.

So, you know, and how long have we owned the Mazanti property?

So, you know, when we talk about the future, trying to do something now is definitely the way to go.

So uh that we don't have to do that.

Kudos to the effort.

Yeah, yeah.

Because time marches on.

We will be sharing the park fee uh fund balance with y'all at some point soon, and that will be informed by the parking recmaster plan and hopefully some priority setting of what council would like to do with that.

I wanted to ask about um when when they do the um the noise evaluation, are they measuring noise at the surface level of the and so isn't there an apartment house that's relatively close and it's two floors?

Yeah, parking department, park late apartments.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, I mean, there's a again there's a bit of extrapolation there based upon um you know measurements they've taken at other courts and then extrapolated here.

So yeah, the the noise level, but they they did take in uh to account that it is a multi-story that's adjacent to it.

So they did um anticipate what those noise levels would be about tennis drive residents as well as um I believe it's been a part of the park lane departments yes, you're right.

I live there.

So did you peninsula pines and park lane, yeah.

So I mean the fact that I mean sometimes sound resonates in different directions, so it can go up.

Yeah, and again and again, we also have the eucalyptus trees and the canopies that are um gonna be along Colma Creek.

So I mean, I I like the use of the property from the very beginning when it was a um when it was a skateboard park, the running joke for the day it was dedicated was it looks like a prison yard.

I mean it was never something it was awful.

So um, so this is a much improved corner of the world.

Yes, so one note about the eucalyptus trees, they won't always be there.

Correct.

That's true.

I mean, uh the difference trees have a known lifespan or unknown lifespan, I should say.

But those ones are I mean a couple of blow blown over in the past few years.

So we yeah, I think to to um to Brian's point, we could look at increasing fence heights.

I mean, we could probably even do that now, and um at least as like a bit alt to see how much more that would cost and take that before you use an option, or even I don't know.

There's room, but it like planting trees now so that when they grow and they're needed, that they're already grown and not you know, baby trees.

Succession planning, yeah.

There's a lot of weight trees from rise.

Okay, thank you much.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Greg.

Moving on to items from council committee reports and announcements.

Item number 15 is council discussion regarding San Mateo County City Selection Committee vacant position on heart and alternate for voting on February 27, 2026.

So this item is in um Councilman Flores' backyard.

Yes, cities.

Big meeting this Friday to determine who will serve on Hart.

Yes, as uh chair of the Samanteo City uh selection committee, uh we've had an applicant or I should say the seat for the heart board of directors is up.

Uh current council member uh Diane Howard from the city of Redwood City is uh currently applying to be reappointed as incumbent to the board of directors.

There have been no other um uh letters of inter of interest submitted, and this will take place this Friday at the Council of Cities uh meeting.

So I'm I'm going to um name uh Councilman Flores as the uh proxy uh because I won't be in attendance, and um, just need to give him instructions on how you should vote.

Everybody has no problem with finding out it okay.

There you go.

So I can just as as a sitting heart board member, I just want to say uh Diane Howard has been active.

Okay, um, and I think her perspective is needed as uh the heart board is trying to do more and is trying to potentially follow the footsteps of South San Francisco and advocate for an Article 34 authorization to be placed on the ballot countywide in San Diego County.

She is on that subcommittee with Hart, and she is uh providing uh much need much uh valued perspective.

Um, and so I'm proud of the diversity of the heartboard and very happy to uh support her for her uh reappointment.

Good to hear they're trying to catch up to us.

That's great.

As someone who has received a heart loan in the past, I know how important that organization is, and so um uh I I fully believe Diane was the right person for that position.

Agreed.

Wonderful.

So um you take you carry that.

I'll carry the forum as uh designating me as a proxy.

Thank you, ma'am.

That's great.

Next item.

Thank you, Mayor.

We will now move on to closed session item number 16, which is a conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation.

Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to government code section 54956.9d2, one potential case.

Okay, the council will be in closed session in a moment.

Thank you for attending.