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This meeting of the South San Francisco Planning Commission is hereby called to order.

Will you please stand and join the Pledge of Allegiance?

May we please have roll call?

Commissioner Funes.

Here.

Commissioner Faria.

Here.

Commissioner Shahade.

Here.

Chairperson Pomaku.

Here.

Commissioner Zhang.

Here.

Commissioner Evans is absent.

Thank you.

Are there any changes to the agenda?

We have no changes to the agenda.

Any uh items or announcements from staff.

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All right.

Uh we will go to public comment.

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All right.

Hearing no speakers, we will move on.

Next on the agenda is disclosure of ex parte communications.

If any commissioner has had any communication with applicants, did any site or project visits, had interactions with third parties, or has any conflicts regarding any items on the agenda, you may disclose them at this time.

If you would like to recuse yourself for an item, you can also do that at this time.

I would like to recuse myself from item number two.

Noted, thank you.

All right, we'll move on to the next.

Oh, um.

Okay, we'll move on to the next item.

Which is the consent calendar.

Uh may we have a listing of the consent calendar items.

We have one item on the consent calendar.

Item number one is consideration and approval of minutes from the February 19th, 2026 Planning Commission meeting.

Uh, does any commissioner wish to pull an item from consent?

Does any member of the public wish to address the commission on an item on the consent calendar at this time?

And so please fill out a speaker card and give it to the clerk.

We have no comments at this time.

All right.

With uh no speakers, then I'll entertain a motion on the consent calendar.

Make a motion we approve the consent calendar.

Yep.

Second.

Thank you.

Oh, uh roll call, please.

Commissioner Faria.

Yes.

Chairperson Palmacu.

Yes.

Commissioner Shahade.

Yes.

Vice Chairperson Baker.

Yes.

Commissioner Zhang.

Yes.

Commissioner Funes.

Yes.

Commissioner Evans is absent.

All right, thank you.

Uh calendar passes.

Uh, next on the agenda is item number two.

Uh, will Clerk please read item number two?

Oh, sorry.

Commissioner Shah is recusing himself.

Okay, item number two is report regarding consideration and approval of application for a conditional use permit to allow a hookah lounge and private events permit with a parking reduction within an existing 3,875 square front restaurant space located at 1429 San Mateo Avenue in the mixed industrial high zoning district in accordance with the South San Francisco Municipal Code and Determination that the project is categorically exempt for CEQA class one, Section 15301 existing facilities, and Billy Gross is going to give the staff report.

Thank you.

I will now open the public hearing and call for the staff report.

Good evening, Chair, Vice Chair, and fellow commissioners.

Billy Gross, principal planner with the division.

So the application before the commission this evening is uh conditional use permit at 1429 San Mateo Avenue for two general uses.

Uh first being a hookah bar smoking lounge, second, uh private events permit with the parking reduction.

This image shows the site location, which is within the eastern portion of the Lindenville sub-area near US 101.

This image shows the site context more clearly.

Uh the axis has been turned so north is on the right in this image.

Uh the subject property is highlighted in red, and you can see the industrial nature of the surrounding area.

And then we zoom in to a Google Street View image showing the subject building to the left and the attached neighboring property to the right further back.

As discussed in the staff report, these two buildings were constructed in the 1960s, originally served as a bakery, but the two properties have had separate businesses since at least the early 2000s.

Cresca Equipment Rentals has occupied the rear building 1431 San Mateo since 2002, and that's the colorful cranes to the right are part of that business.

The front building has been occupied by a restaurant use since at least 2004.

More recently, the city's code enforcement division has issued notices of violation to the previous business owner for unpermitted uses in construction, including uh use of hookah without a use permit, both in 2022 and 2024, uh conversion of the rear storage area into a banquet hall, and the unpermitted outdoor seating enclosure, which can be seen at the front of the building in this image, which has been removed since the street views completed.

The current applicant purchased the business in 2025 and has been working with city staff to bring the property into compliance.

So the applicant is proposing the following uses within the space.

First, as it's always been in a restaurant, uh, which is an allowed use, doesn't require any additional entitlements.

That would be in the green area and could be done in the rear area as well.

If they ever wanted to do the entire space as a restaurant, that that is definitely a possibility.

A hookah bar, which requires approval of a conditional use permit.

Um, and then use with that is the area that's outlined in red.

And finally, uh use of the banquet area, which is the area in red for private and special events as the place is rented, which requires a conditional use permit to modify event requirements and for a parking reduction.

I'll go into each of these uses separately.

The first I will show the city's AB 2097 map.

Uh those properties within the red highlighted areas are exempted by state law from having to meet minimum parking requirements.

This applies to both restaurant and the hookah bar use.

So, regardless of how much space they use in this, we cannot require any additional parking that's already existing on the site.

So for the use permits, we'll start with a discussion for related to hookah.

Um, and I wanted to go through the tobacco retailer ordinance history that that dictates a lot of this.

So in May of 2025, the city amended the municipal code so that our tobacco retailer ordinance was superseded by the county's ordinance.

The county's ordinance specifically prohibits any person or tobacco retailer from selling or offering to see offering any flavored tobacco product or tobacco product flavor enhancer.

Then in June of 2025, um, to be consistent with that previous action by council, planning staff brought forward zoning amendments to be consistent with the counties ordinance.

One of those amendments was a removal of hookah bar smoking lounge, um, which the planning commission recommended per staff's recommendation.

When when the discussion went to city council, city council did include a provision that any change would not apply to any use permit application for a hookah bar received prior to city council's adoption of the amendments, and the applicant had submitted their use permit application a couple of weeks before city council took final action.

So in basic terms, this is the only application that can be come before the city.

And if this were to be approved, this would be the only such use that would be allowed within the city of South San Francisco.

The applicant is proposing that the rear banquet room outlined in red in this image be the designated area where hookah smoking is allowed.

Hookah products offered can only be non-nicotine, non-tobacco.

With this provision, the use would comply with the county's regulations.

The proposed conditions of approval also include a range of general requirements specific to the hookah use.

For instance, no one under the age of 21 is allowed in the banquet area during hookah service hours.

If you look at the floor plan, you'll notice that at the bottom of the red area, there's doorway going from the back of the restaurant to a hallway that leads to the banquet area.

One of the requirements is that they would have somebody when hookah services is in happening after 6 p.m.

That's the space where someone would have to come through and enter, and they'd have someone checking IDs to make sure anyone going to that space is 21 years of age or older.

Hookah hours of operation do not start until the slide's actually incorrect.

I apologize.

It's uh 6 p.m.

is what the conditions of approval say.

And all advertising for the hookah product must specify the products served there are non-nicotine, non-tobacco.

The other use permit discussions relate to the allowance of private or special events.

One-time private or special events are typically regulated under municipal code chapter 6.48 special event permits, which is primarily overseen by the police department.

Within the city, uh what we consider a special or private event that requires permits is any such event with 75 or more attendees.

Um and they're required to obtain an event permit from police prior to the event.

For private events, the notification is typically 30 days.

And for special events, the notification is typically 60 days.

The differentiation between the two, uh, a private event might be someone renting the rear area for a birthday party, wedding reception.

Special event would be something a little bit larger.

Maybe there's a DJ coming and there it's someone of a little bit more regional influence that they would actually then put out an announcement regionally, and it would be potentially drawing more people.

Those sub-events require a 60-day notice, typically.

Does allow for eating and drinking establishments with a use permit to be exempted from some of the typical event permitting requirements.

In both cases, either private or special events, police would allow a 15-day prior notice rather than the 30 or 60 days.

The conditions of approval also show the allowed event hours of operation, requirements for on-site security personnel, alcohol service hours, and restrictions on live entertainment.

The last piece that is part of the use permit discussion is that private and special events would not be exempted from parking requirements.

So staff wanted to ensure that adequate parking is present.

In determining a parking requirement for events, the range of required spaces would typically be calculated at between 40 to 70 parking spaces.

One of the examples in the staff report was the old pre-2010 or the 2010 zoning ordinance, which required one parking space for something along the lines of 30 square feet.

That would be on the high end.

Staff estimates that are approximately a hundred on-street parking spaces on San Mateo Avenue and Lowry Avenue within a quarter mile walk of the subject property.

That's the areas that are highlighted in yellow.

It's basically a quarter mile walk from the property.

As you look at this in um photo, there are lots of um fire hydrants.

And so there are lots of red curve there.

And then same on the east side of Lowry, no parking is allowed for the majority of Lowry on the east side.

Even taking that into account looking through, we still estimate that there are a hundred on-street parking spaces within close proximity.

Um the reason that staff believes that parking will be less of an issue at this site is because of the industrial nature of the area.

All of the businesses or the majority of the businesses in the area have typical eight to five business hours.

But after five to six o'clock, um the parking vacancy goes significantly down.

And when you look into the later hours or on weekends, uh the vast majority of this is just open parking.

And so staff does believe that the on-street parking specifically would provide adequate parking to meet the the parking requirements that we discussed for the private and special events.

Other conditions of approval of note include uh hours of operation for both hookah or private events, making sure that those happen during hours when the other businesses aren't in business.

The restaurant can be open any hours that they would like.

Uh and then also noticing are also noting for monitoring, we are recommending that there be a six-month and twelve-month review back before the planning commission.

Um those dates would start from the time that the either the hookah or the private events actually start occurring.

Um giving us a chance to ensure that they are being consistent with the conditions of approval.

From an environmental review standpoint, the project has been determined to be categorically exempt under CECO Class 1, Section 15301 existing facilities, because a project consists of only interior improvements to an existing commercial tenant space.

So in closing, uh staff will note that the applicant has worked closely with city staff to correct past violations.

Staff also believes that if the hookah bar and private events are operated in compliance with the conditions of approval and the city codes, this use can be a welcome addition to South San Francisco.

Um we also definitely want to remind everyone of the six-month and twelve-month reviews.

This allows both the city and the applicant to see what works well, what doesn't, and gives us an opportunity to tweak these conditions of approval further at those check-ins as necessary.

So staff is recommending that the planning commission take the following actions.

First is to move to determine the project is exempt from CEQA.

Second is to move to operate the use permit entitlement subject to the attached findings and conditions of approval.

That in staff's presentation, uh, happy to go to any of these items in more detail.

And I'll also note that the applicant is here.

They don't have a specific presentation, but I do believe that Nizarin Carmi has a few words to say, and definitely they will also be available for any questions you might have.

Thank you.

Um would applicant like to um, if not make a presentation address the commission.

Hi, good evening, everyone.

Um we purchased this business because we were customers of the previous owners.

And basically this business only will succeed with this type of use.

Uh we've been there like Billy said since October and we have lost a significant amount it's been financially draining because there's no hookah, there's no events, and uh we've tried everything possible, we've done everything possible to bring the uh the restaurant up to code.

We've done uh we've taken down the patio, we've done all the construction that needs to be done.

Um we're in the process of waiting for our approval to do fire sprinklers.

So we think this would be a great addition.

It would obviously you know be good for us and our family.

But um if you guys have any questions, I'm more than more than willing to answer.

Thank you.

Uh do any commissioners have questions for staff or the applicant.

Go to chair.

Uh Billy, do you mind uh showing the hours for hookah private event and restaurant?

There's uh slide.

Uh where I'm coming from is um let's see.

So parking exemption, we're exempting based off because private events are not exempt from uh private accents not exempt from parking and we are okay that they allow uh we use the street parking is because the neighborhood is uh uh uh uh primarily industrial, but I think one of the hours, private events.

It's Friday, 11 AM to 130 a.m.

So that is a conflict of industrial not close.

You you are correct.

Uh we will that should be changed for private events to be Saturday and Sunday 11 a.m.

start time.

Okay.

Okay.

So so that okay, perfect.

Yeah, you thank you.

Sorry, I so I can't see it anymore.

Oh, there you go.

Was it uh oh that there yeah, good uh because it was assuming at my head so I can't see that uh my second question would be, and again, um uh I'm not gonna state my position just yet, but like definitely county county has state its position, so I need to make sure that whatever I grant exception or grant my approval, it's you know, align with what the county and what the city wants and you know going by.

Uh restaurant can be open anytime.

And the restaurant is at the front and the hookah is at the back.

So I'm gonna ask the very very critical question is if the storefront is open anytime, what stop you from bringing people to the back to hookah any time.

That is where and I'll I'll ask the applicant to to verify what they're proposing.

But let me go back to if you see at the restaurant, which is just uh kind of the narrow strip at the front to the right where the there's the dog leg in the red dash, you'll notice there's a door there.

So they can have that shut when the basically that'd be the requirement.

Like they they'd have that shut or have a security personnel there when the hookah service begins, and then anyone that comes through there would have to basically be ID'd.

There's a separate restroom for the restaurant through the left corridor.

So like you you wouldn't have to go through that area to get to any restroom or things like that.

The only reason you would go through there is if you're going to into use that space.

So that is one of the requirements is that they have to have someone that verifies the age of anyone going in to that space during hookah service hours.

But but so in other words, it's uh self-regulated the the control of Correct.

Okay.

Like like any bar or any use that requires 21 or over, they'd have someone at the door looking at IDs, verifying in that sense, yes.

But because my question largely is related to restaurant hours, no ID and stuff like that require you just go in.

So there is a way where they go in restaurant and go to the back.

I and control and no public.

Yeah, there's internal answer.

So if they chose to use the entire space as a restaurant, they couldn't have hookah during that time.

I I think what they're proposing is just the restaurant in the front.

Hookah in the area to the red and in the red, and they would still have food service in the area to the that's shown in red, but it wouldn't be a restaurant that's open to families.

Um my comment, I think was more if they didn't want to do hookah service and do the entire thing as a restaurant, that's possible.

But but they they they can't do the restaurant and the hookah service at the same time in the same space.

So if they're going to have so the hookah service starts at six, goes till midnight.

During those hours, no one under the age of 21 is allowed into the area highlighted in red.

Thank you.

So to clarify, so again I'm I'm drilling this a little bit.

So if this today, this is a hookah day, then there's no restaurant service.

If it's restaurant day, restaurant hookah time, then the restaurant will only start at six.

Not really.

So look give me, I'll give you a hypothetical question is I start my restaurant at noon.

And then I am.

I'm Alex and Hick.

And then, yeah, come come, go to the back.

I know on paper you can't, but how who is regulating and what will what's the consequence?

How do I prevent that kind of thing to happen?

It's it is self-regulated.

Self-regulated.

Sorry, yeah, through the chair.

Um it is self-regulated, it is part of the conditions of approval.

It's it's and then any type of complaint would be any type of violation is typically on a complaint basis.

That's how our code enforcement learns about it.

Um but it it is that is the way pretty much all use permits operate that the applicant and the property owner agree to the conditions.

They say we will only operate under these conditions and they know that there is a penalty involved if the conditions are not met in terms of enforcement actions, and then you know, further down the road, there is always the possibility of use permit revocation if um conditions are not met.

So it is definitely um, you know, the applicant is is making a commitment to agree to abide by the conditions of approval.

Thank you.

Just a hypothetical when we have special events like you they mentioned weddings, things of that nature, would they have to specify if it's a combination wedding with hookah, or are they strictly exclusive?

They would have to specify.

Obviously, if you so there's any private events that include hookah, they'd have to be 21 and over events.

You couldn't have it be a family event.

I'm gonna ask the question because of the 21-year-old will love and wedding reception, kids do come, and I can understand that you want to make sure they don't uh my guess is at least starting off private events will not include hookah, just so there's not um the chance for that kind of overlap to happen.

But anyone who wanted to do an event that had hookah at it, yeah, they'd have to then be made aware that they couldn't have anyone under the age of 21.

And then one other question the event this is approved and uh they decide they want to sell the business, then it's another hookah once it come in again, would they have to go through the vetting process themselves?

Or would it would this be grandfathered into the new owner?

They would be subject to all of the conditions as currently, but yeah, that there would be nothing prohibiting any use permit runs with the land and so someone else could come in as long as they abide by the same conditions.

Thank you.

I I guess I just have a quick follow-up to that then.

If uh I'm hoping for success for your business.

Um but if they were to go down if they were to not just sell it but the shut down for a while, any new operator in that place would have to go through the whole permanent processing.

Or actually would not be allowed because it's correct.

If if this business became it was vacated for some amount of time, the use would expire and yeah, we wouldn't allow another one.

But a straight sale without a break in operations.

Correct.

Thank you.

So the non-nicotine non-tobacco product.

What is it that would be smoked?

I'm going to ask the applicants to answer that question.

So the um the product is a non-nicotine non-tobacco tea leaf that is flavored.

And it would be put in the bowl and made the same way a regular hoopah would be, but it doesn't contain the tobacco or the nicotine.

It's just a tea leaf with flavor.

Thanks for clarifying.

And then just a related question.

So of course, if you have actual um tobacco products, right, then you have risks of secondhand smoke, right?

But for this product, is there a parallel concern?

For secondhand, I I don't have like an answer to that.

But um as far as the smoke goes in the space.

I mean, there's always a chance of secondhand smoke, but we do have proper ventilation and stuff like that for the smoke in the in the space that we're using.

That was going to be my next question because I understand there'll be hookah uses, but then also potentially non-hooker uses where it's also an event space.

Right.

And I was just curious about um measures to clear the smoke from the space.

There's there is a there is a very good ventilation system installed in the area that would uh obviously clarify the like the smoke and stuff like that.

Um thank you to staff and applicants.

Uh does any member of the public wish to address the commission at this time?

Uh if so, please fill out a speaker card and give it to the clerk.

We have no members of the public wishing to make comments.

Okay, thank you.

Uh then I will close the public hearing and turn this over to the commission.

Oh, please.

Hi, I'm Mike.

I'm the constructor in the place there.

I just want to clear your question regarding in the ventilations.

So basically, there we run more in 12 head, and we have a special ventilation going doing circulation as soon as the smoke got in the place, even in 10 to 15 seconds in the place will be out of the smoke.

So no smoker will stay in the place itself.

Any question regarding building in the place?

I would be loved to answer.

Sure, through the chair, since you invited.

Where does the smoke actually go to the rest of the neighborhood?

Is it being treated or is just ejected to the atmosphere?

So is it rejected?

And we have circulations going, you know, all the way to the CRM system.

Right.

So in other words all the smoke will just go to the air outside.

No.

Oh, sorry.

So basically when you have we have a ventilation and we have like a hood, right?

It's not like restaurant's hood is just taking in the smell out, or it's taking the smoke out.

It's like a special like a split.

All the all the air is going through in the machines and going through in the system and is not going out.

It's like outside is no one get smoke like the whole smell in the smoke over the hookup.

So you're saying there's a filter.

Yes.

Perfect.

Any questions?

Any other questions?

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Uh now we will close the public hearing and turn the matter over to commission for discussion.

Um would anyone like to make a comment?

Thanks.

First of all, I will I'll have no problem approving this.

I uh wish you success with this.

Hopefully, when you have your sixth and 12-month review, they say nothing's happening, it's except they're maintaining the conditions of approval and uh make sure no other issues come before the commission, but good luck and wish you successful.

Um I also wish you success.

Uh I'll be uh supporting this.

I I do understand some of the colleagues' concerns about access.

I I have seen many a restaurant that has a bar in the back with a similar uh uh access.

In fact, I know of one place on Grand Avenue, it's kind of the opposite that they uh have a bar in the front and a well-regarded hamburger place in the back, and you know to go.

Um so it's it's in it's enforceable.

Um I remember way back in the day uh I was an explorer scout, and maybe Lieutenant Murphy knows uh that sometimes there are checks done.

There are stings and uh the good places uh say no, and I hope this continues here.

Um I'll just add I also um in addition to what my fellow commissioner said, I can also appreciate the the principle of uh fairness that staff were articulating about um this application uh or use already being in process uh before uh city council made uh uh some decisions um and uh recognizing that this is uh zoning compliant.

Uh I think for me, as my fellow commissioners have said, it really comes down to you know, not is this an allowable use, but um what do the operations remain compliant?

Um and uh are things looking uh strong at the six-month and twelve month check?

Uh so certainly um hoping for a strong um report card as it were and um and um appreciate the the usual excellent work by staff okay uh great uh can I get uh a motion please uh Madam Chair, I'd like to uh make a motion that the uh project is in accordance with the South San Francisco Municipal Code and to determine that it is exempt from CQ Thank you.

Is there a second?

Uh may we please have roll calls Commissioner Zhang sorry before we do that.

Do we have to include the amendment on the hours and stuff like that in the reading?

If so, I wouldn't need the uh city clerk to actually help us.

Oh, for the the uh direct the revised condition.

So it's number 17, and it would be we'll be revising A and B to be A B C and D.

And it to read as such.

A Monday through Thursday, 6 p.m.

to 12 a.m.

Briday, 6 p.m.

to 130 a.m.

C Saturday, 11 a.m.

to 130 a.m.

And D Sunday, 11 a.m.

to 12 a.m.

Is the motion here I accept the amendment?

Should we should we go through the motion one more time or is it considered as amended?

It can be uh the same motion that you may consider it as amended.

Okay.

Uh great, thank you.

Then we've got the motion and a second.

Uh and back to roll call.

Yes.

Uh Commissioner Zang.

Yes.

Chairperson Pamaku.

Yes.

Commissioner Funis.

Yes.

Vice Chairperson Baker.

Yes.

Commissioner Faria.

Yes.

Uh Commissioner Evans is absent and Commissioner Zhang is up.

Sorry, Commissioner Shah Day is absent.

Good luck.

All right.

Motion passes.

Congratulations.

Good luck.

We look forward to checking back in with you.

Like we don't hear from you again, all good news.

No, it's good news.

All right.

Uh next on the agenda we have um item three.

Uh will the clerk please read item three.

Yes, item number three is report regarding submission of the 2025 Genentech Annual Report for Planning Consider and Planning Commission Consideration.

And Billy is also going to give this presentation.

I think he's going to turn it over to Genantech, looks like sorry.

I will now open the uh public hearing.

Does it go to staff report?

Or no, it's just the Commissioner Shah.

Welcome back, Commissioner Shah.

And I'll ask IT to switch to presentation number three.

Should I open public hearing?

There's no public hearing.

It's administered.

So evening, Chair, Vice Chair, fellow commissioners.

I have the pleasure of introducing Genentech's 2025 annual report.

As the commission is aware, the planning commission is required to review development activity within the Genentech campus at least once a year.

To assist with that review, Genentech submits an annual report that documents the status of specific components, including development activity, transportation demand management status, and other updates.

So I'm going to turn it over to Will Hewin with the Genentech, who will provide a more thorough overview of the annual reports.

And staff will come back at the end of Genentech's presentation.

Good evening, Chair, Vice Chair, Commissioners, staff.

My name's Will Hewan.

Back again this year for the Genentech's 2025 annual report.

Okay, let's take a look.

Okay, we're working here.

Similar table of contents to last year.

We'll go through the campus development and build out, a bit about transportation on our development agreement, and then a few miscellaneous topics, and of course, leaving time for questions.

Like 2024, very limited construction activity on our campus.

We're still sitting just below 4.9 million square feet.

And uh again, our build out in the master plan is about 9 million square feet.

Again, no new additions to buildings, but we did have several projects, one of which I remembered on the way over here, which I'll discuss as well.

Uh one was a uh interior remodel to building T9 to create a new bus maintenance facility, which will help increase our G-Ride uh team's operations reliability, which is a great benefit to our staff and the wider oyster point community.

We also finished off a new electric vehicle charging parking lot as well, which is next to our new security building, which increases the amount of EV charging on our campus.

This year in 2026, uh we're excited to continue design work on the Genentech Bayfront Public Park, which is a part of our development agreement.

So we're continuing and hoping to move to construction in the next 12 months or so.

And we also have uh a few buildings that will be removed in support of future redevelopment projects.

On the acquisition side of things and lease activity side of things, no new leases off campus or uh in the periphery of campus in 2025.

We did have one traditional acquisition that is the property 383-393 East Grand Avenue.

It's known as the Dome Construction Site, and uh is uh a new property incorporated into the master plan district, as well as um as as you all are aware and reviewed.

Uh Genentech uh sort of in street segments were vacated uh last year and the the closure occurred last year as well.

Uh portion of Cabot Road, DNA Way, and Point San Bruno Boulevard.

Uh we're still as we were committed to continued coordination with public safety officials uh throughout any uh changes to the campus, emergency access routes uh will be maintained.

And uh as we discussed in the past, no changes to the campus build out despite these acquisitions, uh including the streets.

Okay.

Excellent.

Uh let's talk about transportation.

No changes to sort of the on-campus presence policies amongst Genentech employees.

Uh but we did have a slight uh increase in quantity of drive-alone trips to campus.

Um however, that now includes motorcycle, taxi, and ride share trips, which was a change from 2024 to the 2025 calculation based on South San Francisco TDM guidelines.

So slight uptick, but I think it's it's we're incorporating those additional trips.

Alternative modes again, about one-third of trips, and uh uh about an on-campus presence rate of about 58.7%.

The Genen bus remains an incredibly popular option for arriving to campus, uh, as do other options, uh similar to last year when you include uh remote absent and those employees utilizing alternative modes uh taken to campus.

Uh that actually results in the majority of our staff uh, which is uh fantastic.

It's it's a great testament to the work our GRIDE folks do uh on their team in particular with operations.

GRIDE with our 50th anniversary wrapped buses, uh still partnering with uh Oyster Point area organizations to increase ridership, and still partnering on our shared transit connectors, which are open to all, regardless of uh uh if you work in the area or don't, you can take those connectors, the shared transit connectors.

In late, I believe August 2024, we launched our scooter share program, partnered with a scooter organization called VAO, and we've seen incredible results in the first full year of operations.

Uh we've expanded the quantity of scooters in uh Oyster Point, and we've seen almost 80,000 rides total in one calendar year, which is just fantastic.

You see them cross oyster point all the time on our campus.

I know many people love them, and uh we're at over 4,000 unique users, which is great, kind of reducing trips during the day during business hours.

On the trip cap, we're still well below our 5,216 AM peak hour single occupancy vehicle trips, which is the maximum permitted under our master plan.

There's a significant decrease this year to 1,718 trips.

Uh we adjusted the calculation methodology instead of in previous years, we were reporting the total peak, uh excuse me, total uh morning uh hours uh total trips.

We've changed it to the the peak hour.

So that's that's what that uh changes reflected there.

And ultimately it's still is a great result uh uh showing and reflecting the immense popularity of GRIDE, the buses, all these alternative options to campus.

Parking in relatively stable just as 2024, we're just below 6,500 spaces and have the same parking occupancy at about 61%, so still very low uh overall.

Okay, and a little bit about our development agreement.

Completed uh prepayment last year, housing fee of 1.5 million dollars.

There's a typo here.

We also did complete a transportation fee payment as this is our fifth master plan year of uh, I believe two million dollars.

On the community fund, we uh yet again increased the community fund grant quantity from the original 100,000 to 250,000, expanded it to many more programs, which I'll highlight in a moment.

And we completed one very minor administrative amendment to the development agreement with two items.

The first being adjusting the design timeline for the public park.

So recreation and parks commission could review the project.

And we also, in conjunction with public works team, uh uh completed an amendment that allows some transportation funding to be repurposed for different multimodal improvements.

It was specified for the a grand avenue flyover project, and we've broadened the scope so it can be used for different uh options.

On the community fund again, uh this fantastic program.

We we loved attending.

I attended Constant in the Park this year and was doing public park outreach at that event.

Um we've we've been able to benefit even more organizations this year, uh including a few more broader with uh within San Mateo County, which have a focus on South San Francisco, uh, but again, a fantastic program.

I know uh the program coordinator is always excited uh for us to highlight the organizations here.

Excellent.

No changes to development standards, design guidelines, uh mobile vendor, employee amenity activities, uh no changes to those miscellaneous topics.

Um however, last year in conjunction with the street vacation project, we did uh uh rezone and add those remaining properties that were required to the master plan district.

And last but not least, uh Genentech uh filed a conditional use permit request uh just about a month and a half ago for a new research and development project.

We're excited to share new details later this year with the commission.

So thank you so much.

Appreciate your time today and available for any questions or comments.

Thank you.

Um do commissioners have any questions for appet um for Genentech.

Yeah.

Yeah, through the chair.

All the numbers and outlined are in percentages.

Can you give us rough idea like daily?

How many employees attend?

Is it still a week on Monday and Friday?

Employees working from home.

And what is rough daily?

Yeah, we're attendance.

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, we do our court and count.

Uh last year it was October 2025.

Um we chose a week that was a representative week with kind of minimal off-campus events, you know, it's a representative week.

Monday and Friday do have uh reduced attendance, absolutely, on site.

Tuesday through Thursday are often the days, and I think a lot of companies are finding those are the days where a lot more people do come into the office.

And so that that does meet uh uh an employees requirements essentially.

Now uh taking a look here.

Let's see uh on the so based on let me you know let me just go back to the charts here.

Let's take why not.

So for the on-campus population based on our current uh the current total amount of staff, uh, believe that would be about 4,000 people daily on site, roughly Tuesday Thursday that uh uh I'd say that's that's about average, yes, Tuesday through Thursday.

To build on that same question, because when with the pandemic, a lot of people were at home, obviously.

So when would you say that I feel myself proofly that's 66% is due to more people being required to come in, which would make that number rise.

So when did you see the biggest peak from your lowest point?

Did it occur like last year, year before?

Right.

Right.

Well, the 66% is just the drive-alone staff.

So you have then you have 33% of that 4,000, yeah, using those alternatives.

But you probably had more on campus.

Right.

And so um, yeah, so there was uh in particular a lot of variability in those early years, absolutely.

And then it has it's stabilized in 2022, 2023, and now we're seeing that um people are returning to campus.

They're they're enjoying the amenities that we have on campus, they're enjoying the vibrant experience there, and you know, we're excited to continue that into the future, um, even as you know, we ramp up construction and and potential projects.

It could be kind of safe to say you've now got to a point where it should be stable unless you have additions or subtractions, it should be pretty stable.

I would think so.

And you know, again, uh talking about our G-Ride folks as well, they're thinking about ways, you know, uh you know, not necessarily expanding service, but thinking about services in different ways.

Uh so working with uh uh the ferry operator in the San Francisco Bay Area to change times a little bit, um, or working with uh their their bus folks to figure out different ways to operate more efficiently.

I think it it increases people who will use those modes as well.

One other question, just for my information, I wasn't aware the scooters still just uh now they restrict obviously just to your campus area.

The scooters.

No, uh the scooters are available for all oyster point mobility partners.

So that's uh about 21%.

So it basically all of it's okay.

Thank you.

East Grand all the way to Caltrain.

Thank you.

And they're they're uh uh free complementary for those uh organizations, uh, but they are available for anybody to pay to use them as well.

Well, just note there's a geo friends for them.

Yeah, they have to stay east of one on one.

They're not allowed to come west of the Caltrain tracks.

I I figured I just wonder what their radius was, because that's nice that partners can take advantage of it too.

I'll take it to Caltrain and then I walk to City Hall if I need to meet with Billy.

Any other questions?

Uh so at this time I will ask the clerk if there are members of the public who want to provide comment on this item.

We have no members of the public wishing to provide comment.

Then thank you so much for the presentation.

Thank you.

Uh Genantec being a good neighbor.

So there is one action we'll need um the planning commission to take.

So we do find that the submitted report is consistent with the reporting requirements, and we would recommend that the planning commission accept the 2025 genuine or genentec annual report.

So we just make a motion to accept the report and we'll do a roll call.

I make a motion to accept five.

Can we have a roll call, please?

Vice Chairperson Baker.

Yes.

Commissioner Funes.

Yes.

Chairperson Palmaku.

Yes.

Commissioner Zhang.

Yes.

Commissioner Faria.

Yes.

Commissioner Shahade.

Yes.

Commissioner Evans is absent.

I see the motion passes on administrative business.

Um fantastic.

So then on to our last piece of administrative business.

Um item four.

Will Clerk please read item four?

Yes, item four is a report regarding the 2025 general plan and housing element annual progress reports.

And Billy Gross and Stephanie Scangus are going to give the staff report.

It is an evening of annual progress reports.

Yay.

So for this item, I will provide an update on general plan implementation for 2025, including consistency with state requirements, an update on status of policies and actions implementation, and general plan amendments.

And then Stephanie will provide an update on implementation of the housing element.

So for the general plan.

Allowing for animals to be able to get into other open spaces.

I think it's it the broad sense is having more corridors where animals can access different spaces.

And so that we are not precluding access or yeah, I I will say that I don't have all of the details for this, but it is trying to make it easier for animal populations to be located in in spaces and be able to move in between spaces as well.

Can I get this clarification, Billy?

For example, does San Bruno Mountain is it considered a part of Sau City, or is it just the portion that city owns or we would just be looking for our open space element is just for the portions that the city owns.

Obviously, it would we would have connections to San Bruno Mountain because that's um such a large open space.

But um so we would be part of that study.

We would not include San Bruno Mountain in our study.

They would have to do their own for their portion, but we would discuss how that interacts with our open space areas.

There's probably some along the southern Sign Hill is in the else in South San Francisco, but San Bruno Mountain is separate within it.

That is a county park.

But I wanted to mention, if I could just jump in.

This will be coming.

So this SB 1425 is a very specific state requirement, new state law that we have to address.

And we will be coming to the commission.

We're actually working on those updates now.

They're very minor policy updates, and we'll be planning coming to the planning commission with some policy changes probably within the next few months for review.

And then following that, we will get, you know, as Billy mentioned, the parks and recreation master plan when that process gets underway.

I think likely later this year we'll do a much deeper dive into specifically addressing the state requirements.

Like we'll really go into it and figure it out.

And that will also come to the planning commission because it will be a general plan amendment as well.

So we'll probably have a lot more information on what rewilding means and kind of any if there's any technical undertakings the city needs to do to make sure we're addressing the state requirements.

Perfect.

And then we did do two general plan amendments last year.

It was related to the infinite 131, uh the or the 131 terminal project where we amended land use designations.

So we made some land use map changes.

And then the second was in the circulation element, and those were amendments to base maps related to genentex acquisition of public roadways within their campus.

So this chart displays the date each required element was last updated, reflecting the 2025 amendments.

Attachments one and two to your staff report are the detailed general plan implementation tables showing the current status of each of the 764 policies and actions within the general plan.

Items highlighted in yellow indicate an updated entry from last year.

And then the other yellow highlights typically indicate a change in status or time frame.

And then finally, this chart indicates implementation status by element.

And I'll note that overall since the first year of reporting after adoption in 2022, items considered complete or ongoing have increased from 51% to 58%.

Items considered underway have increased from 17% to 20%, and items with no action have decreased from 33% to 22%.

So we're chipping away at these every year.

So that ends the general plan implementation portion.

I'll pass it over to Stephanie for the housing element.

Thank you, Billy.

Good evening all.

I'm gonna cover the housing element annual progress report for the 2025 calendar year.

Um just as a friendly reminder.

Um a housing element is one of the seven state mandated elements of the general plan.

Um unlike the other elements of the general plan, the housing element must be updated by deadlines set by the state.

Um our housing element was adopted by the city in January 2023 and then certified by the Department of Housing and Community Development in November of that year.

Um the new housing element covers a planning cycle running from January 31st, 2023 through January 31st, 2031.

So a an eight-year period.

Um it begins with the state setting a region's regional housing needs allocation or RENA.

Um and this is the estimated number of housing units that are needed over an eight-year planning cycle to assist with regional growth trends.

Um just to note the eight-year cycle for RENA differs slightly from the actual housing element planning cycle.

Um it runs from June 30th, 2022 instead of January 2023 through December 15th of 2030.

Um it's important to note that the arena allocation um by the state, the units don't actually need to be constructed.

But the city is required to ensure that it is possible to build these units through appropriate zoning standards and land use designations.

New units are counted towards RENA at the time of a building permit issuance, and these units include all residential unit types, single family dwellings, accessory dwelling units, and multifamily residential units.

Again, our RENA allotment for this cycle is 3,956 units.

That allocation is subdivided among four household income categories very low, low, moderate, and above moderate.

The income categories are based on the area median income or AMI set by HCD for each county.

For San Mateo County, the 2025 AMI is 186,600, and that's for a family of one.

And then very low ranges from 30 to 50% AMI, low between 50 to 80 percent, moderate between 80 to 120%, and above moderate is more than 120% AMI.

And this slide shows the breakdown of the RENA allotment required.

So for the 2025 calendar year, the city is reporting building permit issuance, and this is where the units do get counted towards the RENA for 593 new residential units.

This is made up of two single family homes, 543 multifamily units, which is for the seven South Linden Avenue project, and 48 ADUs.

In addition to the new units issued a building permit, a total of 97 units were finaled or issued a certificate of occupancy in 2025.

This includes three single family homes, nine small multifamily units, which are units that are located within a two to four unit structure, and 56 multifamily units, including for the Baden Station project as well as the 889 McLellan project, and 29 ADUs.

A snapshot of what's to come, hopefully.

The city has approved planning entitlements for 232 new residential units.

70 of which are part of the Gateway Town Home Project along Railroad Avenue that Planning Commission and City Council reviewed last year.

12 small multifamily units and then 144 multifamily units, and these are for the 5052 Linden Avenue Affordable Housing Project that was approved under AB 2011.

So that provides a nice snapshot of hopefully what's to come down the line in building permit issuance for the city.

So approximately about 770 units have been counted towards RENA.

This slide here shows a breakdown of where they fall in the income level.

For very low housing, we're at about 7.9% of expected housing units.

For low housing at 21.7% for the moderate category issued building permits for 12.1% of the expecting how expected housing units, and for the above moderate, we have issued the city has issued building permits for 505 units or 27.1% of the expected housing units.

The annual progress report also focuses on program implementation.

Um a large port component of the city's housing element are goals, policies, and programs that direct residential decision making for the city.

Um most of the programs are implemented and monitored on an ongoing basis.

Um however, some programs do have deliverable dates throughout the housing element cycle.

For the past year, um seven, a total of seven programs were completed.

Um and these include um acceptance of an anti-displacement roadmap by council in November.

Um this past November, sorry.

Consideration of an affordable housing financing plan by the housing standing committee and city council, and adoption of relocation benefits to assist residents of single room occupancy units and mobile home home parks through an adopted ordinance.

Um we will continue to complete these programs as the cycle progresses.

Um that concludes staff's presentation.

Billy and myself are available for any questions or clarifications needed.

Thank you.

Questions from commissioners?

Okay.

Um I had a question.

We have the breakdowns of the amounts of housing units by type.

And obviously the market rates are way ahead of the other ones.

Um is there at some point where the city might say where if we, for example, hit that market rate target.

Um I realize we're quite far from it right now.

But because the projects are coming at different speeds, if we were to hit that market rate target, would we as a city be in our powers to say that any units after that need to fit these other categories or I would anticipate that would be something that would need to be discussed by council.

Um we do have our inclusionary housing ordinance that applies to all residential projects of five or more units, and that requires a set amount of affordable units.

Um it would depend on the developer.

We do tend to see obviously more above moderate develop um residential development.

Um to note the two projects on Linden Avenue that were received entitlements this past year, they're both 100% affordable, so we'll be seeing some increase in our um building permits issued for units of um low and very low income category.

But again, I think it would be more of a policy decision at that time for council to decide.

And I like I said, I realize we're quite far away, but it would be a nice problem to have.

I will say that the state wouldn't require that, like you can't build more units.

Um and this becomes uh basically every jurisdiction has this same problem where it's it's the above moderate or kind of market rate units that get mostly built.

There's a lot of I think that's where a lot of the other programs come into play of can you do other things that help incentivize some of those?

And so is there more we could do, but they wouldn't say you can't issue, or at least they haven't gotten to that point yet where you can't issue more building permits for other housing because regardless, we still need any housing units better than then stopping from.

So there would there wouldn't be any penalty in that sense.

I'm just curious, but you probably told me before, but I know we've like the movie property over there on Huntington.

Now I know we approved the that project like three or four years ago.

I know it's when they pulled the permit.

Now were those permits gonna go against this arena or are they on a prior arena on that particular project?

Um so the units get counted towards RENA the year that the building permit is issued for the units.

So 1477 1477 Huntington, although they were entitled a few years ago, if they were to pool their permits sometime this year, they would be counted in the 2026 um annual progress report.

Thanks for the clarification.

I know because finance and stuff, a lot of projects have been on hold for the obvious economic.

So thanks for clarifying that.

No problem.

Oh, 410 NOR, they were issued building permits.

Quite a while ago.

Two, I think either 24 or 23 was when they were captured.

Okay.

We've caught we've captured quite a few in the last couple of years because then there's also the PS office park properties that you see if you're going Southbound 101, those would have probably also been 2024.

I know we have like properties one right behind us that have been vetted, just a matter of them, as you say, pulling their permits.

I think also with a couple of these, they they pulled their permit, but didn't start construction right away.

So there may be a lag, like if they started last year.

I I have a feeling I think PS Office Park and 410 NOR officially pulled permits for the 2023 reporting year.

But we didn't start seeing you know construction happening until recently.

Yeah, thank you.

Just to add to that, and certainly I really appreciate seeing progress.

And I know we're not alone across the Bay Area and really um trying very hard to hit those numbers.

There's I understand why there's of course a lag time between the permitting and the actual unit going online.

Um but just kind of knowing the acute need right now.

Are there ways that we can incentivize or encourage the process so that the units are actually getting to the point where folks start living in them?

All I can say, I think at a high level is the biggest public issue, it's the financing side.

Um and so if banks aren't financing projects, like the city only has so much that we can help with, we obviously don't have to.

So I was one of the limited levers, right?

Yeah for from the city standpoint.

Definitely, definitely.

Because the it's the financing side that's the biggest kind of stop for everything.

I mean that that there's very little development that's happening now, had probably some other financing source than a typical lender.

Um and until that softens, um, yeah, there's not as much that cities are able to do.

I would say though, we do um have you know an expiration date for the entitlement approvals.

So ideally they would be it's a a generally a two-year um approval, and then they can request a one-year extension.

I do know that the state recently passed um last year an additional extension that cities were required to grant residential development, and I think it was because of the market and finance issues.

Um but ideally we would be seeing these units starting to be constructed within three years of receiving a planning entitlement.

Yeah.

Um just a related question to that.

Well, also the the well, maybe I'll just jump straight to the question is Do you foresee the extent you can that the trends holding about steady for the sort of continuous uptick of our numbers?

I mean, if things sort of stay about the same.

The uptick in terms of how we're progressing, or will our numbers continue to increase in future housing all the time.

It might be a little hard to look into that crystal ball, but I would say I mean I think um the amount of units that were entitled this year, um, so that was 232, right?

So those will be coming hopefully for building permit issuance within the next year to three years.

Um we do also have a couple um larger multifamily projects that um are under review by planning.

So um hopefully that is a sign that there will be additional units constructed.

Um I was gonna say that's one of the I think the keys is how many are we getting lots of applications for larger projects?

No.

Because it doesn't make sense for a developer to get a project entitled if they can't get financing to construct it.

That's what I was kind of curious about is like the pipeline.

Okay, that's helpful.

Um then just my last question is I know, especially with um RENA and uh state uh what state uh regulations, you know, things are very focused on the numbers and getting the units.

And even as we're I think rightfully focused on production, um I just really don't want us to lose sight of you know preserving the affordable um housing that we do have and making sure that tenants are protected and on some of the I forgot was exactly listed there, including like anti-displacement plan.

There's some really, I think important and promising uh things listed on there.

Um and I was just curious if there is uh sense of timing or prioritization for some of those other policies, like the anti-displacement plan.

I'm sorry if it's on the slide and I missed it.

The displacement plan was adopted last year, and so moving forward with all the recommendations that came through that.

Uh you are correct in terms of we all get caught up in the numbers that are shown for the the arena number, and there's all of these other programs behind and the city's been that's the one area where the city can move forward.

Um I don't know as much of the details on the anti displacement plan, but I know that the city adopted the actual plan last year and is moving forward with all of those recommendations that were within it, and continue to look at other all the other programs that were uh have been identified, housing element related and moving forward with those that we can.

Thank you.

Yeah.

In terms of the anti-displacement plan, if the commission is interested, we can certainly bring an informational presentation about it.

We can ask the staff who's working on that if if that would be of interest, just let me know.

And we can bring that to the commission just kind of get a quick straw poll.

Folks be I'm not the only nerd who's super interested.

Great, thank you.

That's a great suggestion.

I appreciate it.

Yes, please.

I'd love that.

Fantastic.

Um other questions.

Uh do we typically uh have commissioners' comments on administrative business or just questions?

No action.

Oh, I say there's no action required for this one.

This is informational only.

But yeah, no, definitely.

I mean, we're happy to answer questions that you might have with this.

Yeah.

But you don't have to take a formal action on this item.

Right.

Um, then I will ask the clerk if there are any members of the public who would like to provide comments on this item.

No members of the public wishing to provide comments at this moment.

All right, thank you.

Well, then that uh closes out administrative business.

Um and now we go to uh items from the commission.

Speaking of uh being nerdy, I'm excited about this one.

Short um actually half a presentation.

Oh my gosh.

Thank you.

I will be quick.

We will be out of here in five minutes.

Um last week, uh Commissioner Zhang and I had the uh opportunity to attend the annual planning commissioners academy given by League of California Cities down in Anaheim.

Um first I'd like to say thanks to the city of South San Francisco and to the League of California Cities for a fantastic learning opportunity.

Um this is just a list of the highlights of things that I found really interesting.

Uh role of commissioners as zoning is reformed, uh, how did the judge objective standards versus uh subjective standards are your own judgment?

Uh basics and updates on California housing law, uh CEQA, both uh uh introductory and advanced, and uh I like to put anti in front of it.

We had harassment training as well, which but we're not being trained how to harass.

Um this was a slide I saw, and actually where there's there was a little arrow on the PowerPoint version that got taken out when I converted it to PDF, pointing down to the very bottom level, but kind of outlining the roles of of commissioners um and what guides our work.

Uh it all starts as we just heard with the general plan, uh works down through ordinances, um regulations for individual parcels and such, and what we usually get and add here tonight, project level applications.

Um planning commission has a role in every part of that.

Um, from advisory in the general plan, I wasn't on the planning commission when the general plan was assembled, but I do know the work that my commissioners who were here had to put in on it.

Yeah, we talked a little bit about zoning, and I did learn something very early in this uh this uh academy.

I always thought Euclidean zoning was related to the geometrical sense of Euclidean geometry, but it's related to uh US Supreme Court case law, Euclid versus Ambler, which turns 100 years ago old this year, which upheld zoning as a police power.

Um and we're seeing a transition from Euclidean zoning, which was really about uh separating uses and focusing on things like setbacks and intensity to newer form-based zoning.

And I think we can see it a lot here.

You know, we're focusing a lot more on design scale, um, how the buildings relate to the spaces around them, design of streets and such.

Um it sounds more subjective, but it's not, and as we'll learn in this slide, we have to really learn to be objective.

Um, especially when it becomes to housing.

Uh it was pointed out that a lot of public agency discretion has been taken away by state housing legislation.

Um there's very few reasons for us to be able to deny it.

Um we still have that discretion with commercial, but of course, then we have to think about mixed-use projects and when does that become a housing project?

Um what I I learned what we should be asking basically if the housing project comes before us is really simply did the applicant follow the rules?

And those rules have to be objective.

You know, we've we've all asked those subjective type questions on the left.

We've definitely heard it from the public.

You know, things are not come compatible with the neighborhood character.

Well, what is neighborhood character?

Um, you know, so bottom left no, bottom right, yes.

We we we will be judging based on whether it meets numbers, whether it meets you know, two different colors, etc.

Things that are written down rather than our vibes.

And this was an Anaheim, and uh you know, there was a great project planned in Anaheim once upon a time.

Um and one of the things one of the things that go into planning are new are laws.

Um there's three that really are gonna stand out uh in the coming years here in San Mateo County.

SB 79 only applies to eight counties, but we are one of them.

Talks about transit districts.

We do have two major transit hubs uh in Caltrain and BART within our city limits.

Uh I'm not gonna read all these out of the interest of time.

Um, but also we also have uh potential impacts from AB 2011, which is a housing along commercial corridors.

I don't know, maybe I'm gonna ask if if that applies to Grand Avenue at some point.

I'm seeing nods over there on the table.

Um, and we might see uh some uh applications from religious organizations for housing that's under SB4.

Uh I learned a lot about CEQA.

You know, there's three basic outcomes to CECO.

It's either exempt, there's a study which says either gives it a negative deck or a midneck, or then EIR reports created.

Um the comment at the bottom is really what struck out to me.

Context is everything, not all big projects will have impacts, and not all small projects will.

So we have to look at the full picture each time.

I just uh we we see secret approvals uh come before us.

These are what we should be looking at, really.

The baseline, which is what are the conditions now, uh, what can true what constitutes a significant impact, and if there's any mitigation required.

So keep those in.

If you're gonna remember three things about CEQA, look for those three things.

And this was just from the a slide from the intro to planning commission, um, that I think really struck out.

Um our decisions shape our city, where people live.

It shapes the future, you know, what's gonna happen.

And if we do our job right, we build the public trust.

Um it was a very well attended uh convention.

We I saw people from many of our neighbors, those are just who I saw.

Uh Alex may have seen uh a few more from from the local community.

And it really was just a valuable uh event.

So in summation, I got we got practical information about planning and processes, zoning, CEQA, housing laws, um, even what to look at when a staff report comes in, you know, and what to skim.

Not that we ever skim anything that our our our fine planners write.

So at the end of the day, I took the bus down to John Wayne Airport and uh made my way home.

So uh it's a big statue of the Duke there if you ever get down there.

Are there any questions?

Well thank you for your thank you so much.

Thanks, John.

Sure.

It's obvious that you actually went there.

So that's I'm gonna I'm gonna chime in uh uh I I will say I saw him too.

So uh a couple of things about SQL, like so I I'm an architect, so I shouldn't know about Sequo, but honestly, I don't know enough about Segus.

So John and I both would like, you know, we really want to learn about Sequo.

So one thing that caught my attention is when the SQL expert on stage says if the SQL report doesn't make any sense to you or after you're reading it, you don't understand, they fail their job.

So a lot of times when I read if I don't understand, I I'm shy and asking questions because it it will look bad on on me.

Uh but apparently if they can't make me understand, they fail the job.

So when you read the report, if you don't understand, ask the question, like no dumb question.

So I I'm glad and same to staff, like don't act like you understand everything.

And the other thing that struck me is mitigation.

So uh any mitigation has to be measurable.

So if they propose any mitigation, that is like maybe we'll do another study or something that is not actionable, that is not measurable, then that's not a mitigation.

So don't get fooled on that to get SQL approval.

So uh not talking to staff, you know that, but for us when we skim through those things, uh yeah.

And objective design standard is the thing in like currently and in the future, and uh, we're glad that we are there too.

So we're we're doing good.

We we're literally doing good.

Next year in Monterey.

I was just gonna add a quick note uh just to let you know um we actually will be coming back before you it'll probably be late this year, maybe early next year, with probably relatively significant update of the objective design standards though, and we'll we'll do some study sessions with you on that.

And also we're working with uh regional groups on SP 79 things.

So we'll also so some of the things that you learn about that impact us, we're still kind of how how can we do it better for South San Francisco as well.

Okay, thank you so much.

Thank you.

That was really helpful and interesting.

Um and uh maybe in just in the spirit of sharing, I'll just briefly add um just came from there.

Um today and yesterday, I participated in um a technical advisory panel for the city of San Jose um around climate adaptation and uh resilience.

Uh I won't get into all the details, but there was a lot of really interesting and helpful stuff that I learned and I think would be useful uh to South City.

Uh so perhaps I'll circulate the report when that comes out because I think that'll be some uh useful things for us.

Um and thank you so much, Commissioner Baker, for modeling that that uh sharing and presentation.

That was really fantastic.

Any other um items or announcements?

All right, well, um thank you everyone.

Um the meeting is then officially adjourned.