Alright, I think we have a quorum here.

So I am going to go ahead and get started.

The time is 701.

Today is June 18th, 2026.

My name is Representative Sanford, and this is the Operation Parks and Rex meeting.

At this time, I will go ahead and take attendance.

I have myself, Representative Politia, Representative Beckham, Representative Bradford, Representative Didalo, Representative Finkel.

I see Representative Gardner, Representative Zachary, and Representative Salas is excused.

Are there any ex officio members?

I do not see any.

And then from the city, we have director Kevin Murray and his staff.

And then from Eversource, we have Mr.

Barber.

And I'm assuming any staff.

I don't know their names right here.

So without further ado, I know we have some people from Eversource Online.

We have a couple of approvals that we need to get through, and then we'll turn it over to yourself.

So I appreciate your patience.

It's just kind of the order of how things happen.

At this moment, we've got three items.

I will now entertain a motion to take up item OPR 32.012 for approval, a resolution and a an approval of public hearing establishing fees for e-gainer Brennan golf course.

So move.

Second.

So there's a motion to approve resolution and approval of public hearing establishing fees for e-gainer Brendan golf course.

And there is a second.

At this time, I'll open it up for discussion and I'll turn it over to Director Murray, if you or someone from your team wants to brief this one.

This is the first item.

Yes, uh good evening, uh Chair Sanford and representatives.

Uh thank you um for having us tonight.

Um before you we have um the Ganner Brennan uh golf course fee increases.

Um and tonight I have with me uh the EG Brennan um golf course superintendent Hidago Nagashima, um and he can run through those um increases.

Um you did receive um in your prior is the the fees that are the current fees um and also the fees that we would like to increase too um Hidago.

Yes, good evening, everybody, and thank you for your time.

Um forgive me, I don't I don't have um uh our proposal in front of me.

I'm I'm taking this uh meeting from home.

Um, but the board has um analyzed the fees of uh all of our golf courses and our competitors in the area, and um they've came made the determination that we are the uh lowest uh of uh our competitors uh significantly in some areas, and so they wanted to create a fee structure uh for the next five years or so uh to um bring us a current to um what the industry and the area um uh needs.

So I'll thank you, Kevin.

Um, so I think we are looking at uh uh two dollar uh increase per year uh over three years, and that'll put us in um kind of uh more competitive um with our uh competitors.

I I appreciate it, and thank you for sharing your screen, uh Kevin.

I think it's good for for just the audience and public in general to kind of see it.

At this time, are there are there any questions from the committee on the fee changes or anything that anyone would like?

I don't see any hands.

Oh, Representative Zachary, floor is yours.

Thank you, Chair Sanford.

Uh yes, it's could you make that a little larger?

I actually can't see it, and uh maybe it's my limited eyesight.

But the first question is is this built have you built in some kind of inflation kicker?

And um Kevin, scroll down to the bottom where it says 100% bottom right, that might be able to do it.

Okay, yeah.

Other way.

Oh, yeah, thank you.

Is that better?

Yes, much better.

Thank you.

Okay, yep.

And the question is, how do these compare with fees for other clubs or other courses in the area?

Uh, we we are lower and the lowest in all the other uh uh of the courses in the area of of our competitors.

Um and this will over the the next three years will put us uh more competitive with them.

I think um uh the the rate increases are what they are.

I think one of the more significant takeaways is we are um changing our Friday from regular weekday play um and and making it weekend play like all the other golf courses in the area.

So by making Friday's weekend play, there are no discounts uh afforded to seniors and to juniors.

Um and that is consistent with uh just about every other golf course in the area.

Okay.

And the extra money that revenue that you raise from this, will that be used?

What will that be used for?

What are you planning?

What are you?

Uh we we've we've got an irrigation project in the works uh and we have uh uh long-term bunker renovations and cart path improvements.

Um so this money will fund capital projects to keep us uh competitive in those other areas uh as far as uh condition wise.

Okay, so then are you expecting just one final question, if I may.

The 2026 numbers that are proposed here, are those to go into effect as soon as this gets approved in a public hearing, or is this what you're expecting to approve later in the year?

When will these numbers actually take effect?

Uh it depends on when we get the final approval.

Um if if uh it goes through all the boards and we get it uh approved in the summertime, uh, you know, maybe uh uh August, September, we would put those in effect immediately.

Uh, I think if if approval doesn't come till October, uh it's becomes a a why bother moment.

Uh you know, you're you're raising the rates in the off season.

I I don't think that's uh the right thing to do, but I'll have to go back to the board and see what their intentions are.

What could be and I could be wrong, but the bottom of the resolution says a resolution is effective upon enactment.

So it'll go to our it'll go to the full board next month or the beginning of July.

It will then come back to us for a public hearing in July 18th and 19th, and then it would go for final approval in the August meeting, assuming this in a perfect world scenario.

So if I read it right, it would go into effect the beginning of August, uh first Monday of August.

Um I'm not a lawyer, but the way it reads in the way that our board operates, that should be the way it works.

Okay.

I see.

Okay.

Okay.

Uh all right.

Well, thank you very much, and I yield.

Thank you, Representative Zachary.

Uh, I have Representative Didalo.

Thank you, Chair.

Um, my question is just really quick.

Do you usually in the past have you done a few years at a time or you know, like three years, just kind of seeing what past practices when it in regards to uh raising your fees.

I just want to see what that procedure is for you guys.

Well, um to answer you, I I've been uh I've been with the city of Stanford for uh seven years now, and we've raised rates two or three times.

Um and uh, you know, we certainly are not on a yearly schedule, um, but only raising rates every other year, every third year, we kind of been uh put behind um of our competitors, and I think the board wanted to not go through the process every year um to and uh to raise rates and uh instead of uh they wanted to enact a schedule uh for the next couple years to put us uh current to what the uh market demands.

Appreciate it.

Just was wondering, thank you.

Thank you, Representative Didalo.

Representative Police yet.

Uh thank you, Sher.

Yeah.

Uh I I guess going kind of going back on the timing, the timing um item.

Um and and Karen, maybe maybe a question for your discussion we can have um as well here.

Um, because if this does go to you know public hearing, that's obviously goes to the full board uh in July.

Then we have a public hearing, you know, at our next operations meeting, you know, uh in July, and then it goes, you know, obviously we get public comment, or if there's anything the public um brings up that we you know have to entertain, we can make changes, so on and so forth.

Um, but if there's not any public comment, then that go, you know, gets approved and goes to the August board meeting.

So then it doesn't get um approved by us until August.

Uh um, and then you can kind of correct me on procedures.

This after we approve it, uh I'm assuming it's considered an act or does a mayor have to sign this.

Um but um so you know we're not we're we're looking at like September, probably so you know.

So I guess um considering that you did mention some capital projects.

Uh given that timeline, is that gonna be problematic?

Um I guess uh through Chair Stanford too, yeah, any anyone who wants to answer that question.

Um yeah, I'm not sure who wants to have it.

Kevin or someone from your team wants to handle that one.

I I don't know.

I mean, is it is it gonna be problematic that you're raising the rate like th two-thirds of the way through the year in 2026 and then turn around January 1st and raise them again for 2027.

I I personally don't you know I understand it, but you you might get some pushback from customers that you can rate in two months and then have to raise them again.

Uh but I'll I'll let you answer that one.

Yeah, we're we're obviously we're a self-supporting uh fund that's solely supports the golf course.

Um so all that revenue that we bring in, obviously um anything that we bring in will go towards the golf course um and our expenses to help pay for our expenses.

So even if it's uh even if we're through through two-thirds of the year, that third of the year will obviously assist with um us going forward, um, in my opinion.

Um I believe obviously we've been very fair, obviously, with with the rates really under our competitors.

Um we've uh come into a situation where you know obviously we we have to um move a lot of money to cover expenses throughout the throughout our our budget lines.

Um this is only gonna help us, our bottom line um when this is um the enactment has happened.

So with that said, is you know, obviously we want to obviously um keep the conditions um pristine as they are.

Um we want to obviously have a plan going forward.

We obviously wanted to have a three-year um increase cycle to help support uh future plans as Hidago mentioned.

Um, but we um we definitely wanted to start to fall now, um, knowing the fact that it is a two to three month process.

Um so with that said, is I don't know if Hadago has anything to add to that.

Yeah, uh I'll no Kevin, I I I agree, you know.

There, there are certain costs that are out of our control that are that are raising uh, you know, electricity, gas, oil, fertilizers, um, materials, um, we need we credit card fees.

We we need we need to um uh raise the rates to both stay competitive and to cover our expenses.

I think that answers my question.

John, are you happy?

Are you satisfied with that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's fine, yeah.

Just yeah, I guess my concern, yeah.

Just want to make sure, you know, you were you know, for the capital projects are gonna get the funding, even though it might be a little later in the year if that happens, but no.

I I'm guessing most of your uh your projects are in the offseason anyway.

So that kind of gives you a little bit of a you know of uh this uh increase in the into your into the funds for that for the winter.

So to add to that too is our obviously our capital planning for the fiscal year for the year of um for 27 will start in September.

So those submissions will go in in October um through the planning stages.

And obviously would have to, you know, any capital projects that we present to the boards um will have to be heard during the budget process.

So obviously, with this being um, if this is gonna be approved with the fees, we could obviously um counter and and obviously plan appropriately for the future planning of our capital submission, kind of around the same time.

So if this does get signed and approved by the full board, um we could we can move forward with um you know our capital submission for this coming year.

Um knowing the fact that we have um some extra funds hopefully coming in.

Perfect.

Yeah, thank you.

That was it.

I I yield the floor.

All right, thank you.

I do not see any other hands at this time.

So the motion on the floor right now is to approve item OPR 32.012.

We will try this by voice vote.

Uh all those in favor say aye.

Are there any opposed?

There are no opposed.

So at this time, one, two, three, four, five.

Uh I believe it's passes eight zero.

Is that correct?

Um I believe it is.

Yeah.

All right.

So that item passes.

I appreciate it.

And we will move on to item number two, which is OPR 32.013, which is a resolution and approval of public hearing, approving fee schedule for Terry Connors' ice rink.

Um at this time, do I have a motion to approve resolution and approval of public hearing approving fee schedule for Terry Connors' ice rink?

So, and do I have a second?

I can all right.

The motion on the floor is to approve resolution and approval of public hearing approving uh fee schedule for Terry Conner's ice rink.

At this time, I will open it up for discussion and move again to uh give the floor to Director Murray.

Um, if you would like to share your screen again, that would be very helpful.

Uh sorry to put you on the spot like that.

No problem.

I'm just gonna pop it up here.

Let me see if I can do this.

One second.

Oops.

That's not it.

Um, I had it up before, and I can't.

That's all right.

I'm trying to get it over here on my end.

Oh, there's Christina.

Thank you, Christina.

She got it.

Yeah, can you just zoom in?

Yeah.

All right.

So this is the resolution for approving fee schedule for Terry Connor's Ice Rink.

I'll go ahead and give you the floor, Kevin.

Yeah, it's kind of in the same fashion.

Um, this one's a little bit different.

And I'm joined tonight by ice rink manager, uh, Rich Johnson.

Um, with me as well.

Um to go over some detail with you.

Um kind of the same setup.

Obviously, we're a self-supporting um budget to um obviously um provide um the best rank in Stanford, in my opinion, the best ice in Stanford.

Um, but we have to obviously um support all our expenses.

Um, we've came up um we came up with a five-year plan here, um, which was obviously mentioned to us during our budget processes um through the board of finance, and also working with administration.

So um before you is an increase plan for the next five years, um, and I'll pass it to Rich um with any questions.

Anything in yellow will be the obviously the increase.

Um, so there is obviously we're staying flat um through uh 26 and 27.

I believe.

I don't know if there's any underneath.

I can't see.

I don't think we're staying flat for the next year.

Actually, no, I'm sorry, there is a few that are increased.

Um the freestyle and stuff like that.

So there is a couple of increases in 26 27 on the enactment of approval here.

Um, but most of those fees will be increased going forward.

So I'll pass I'll pass it to Rich if you have any questions.

Um Rich.

I believe Richard's.

Hi everybody, thanks for having me on.

Um, yeah, really our our largest increases um are gonna be in like the um birthday parties and the ice rental itself um and summer camps, and those really go into the fact that our last rate increase was July 5th of 2023.

Um and we have fallen quite behind uh everybody in the area.

The the aggregate of the nearest five rings uh we're now 36% lower in our ice cost, uh, with our expenses being the same, some of which are you know hammering us pretty bad, the Zamboni parts and stuff like that on top of inflation or getting hit with uh upwards of of one bill of 12% tariffs from Canada.

Um so this is just helping us uh combat some of those expenses.

Uh we will still be the most affordable rink in Fairfield or Westchester County.

Um and still by a significant margin.

Um this I believe is like a 2.5% increase on our ice time, which translates to about 125 dollars per skater for Stanford Youth Hockey, our largest resident group, which buys about 70% of our ice time.

Um, and then our summer camp going from 375 to 390.

Uh residents do get a discount after a second consecutive week in the camp.

Uh the 390 helps us out, and it's still very competitive with uh our nearest competitor being double the price.

Um I think those are those are those are the major ones.

I appreciate it.

Uh at this time I'll I'll open up to any questions from the floor.

I I appreciate all the information and um the thought that's gone through there.

Are there any members that have any questions?

I don't see any.

Um I'll just say a few words to Kevin and his team.

You guys have done a tremendous job of keeping the cost down.

Um I mean, my I look at it, I'm wondering, you know, did you not increase it enough over the next five years?

I I think you know, you guys have just you know hats off to you guys uh to to keeping it as low as you you you have for as long as you can.

So um thank you for that.

Um at this time, are there any other questions?

If not, the motion on the floor right now is to approve um OPR 32.013.

We'll try this by voice vote.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Are there any?

Any opposed that motion passes with an approval of 800, and that concludes that item there.

So I just want to say thank you to um directing Murray and and your team for showing up.

You guys have done a terrific job managing and running our our ranks and our golf courses.

So thank you very much.

Thank you, Chair Sanford.

Thank you, representatives.

Thank you, sir.

Um, uh you as well, Kevin.

At this time, um, we move on to our third item, which is OPR 32.014 review ever source of underground cable modernization project.

This was submitted by myself.

Uh at this time I'll entertain a motion uh for discussion to review Ever Source Underground Cable Modernization Project.

So and there's a motion to review Ever Source Underground Cable Modernization Project.

Is there a second?

And there's a second.

At this time, I will open it up for discussion and give the floor to Mr.

Barber.

I um I saw him early.

Oh, there he is, sir.

You're at the top of my screen.

We're playing the uh the old Brady Bunch game.

I was looking up there.

So at this time, I appreciate you uh joining us.

Um I don't have a formal agenda.

I think with last time we spoke, we kind of just talked about getting back in five to six months to kind of go over.

Obviously, everyone here on the board uh is pretty familiar with the project.

We we pass by it every day.

So I'll just kind of open it up to comments and updates from yourself and then I'll open it up to the floor for any uh for any general comments from our members.

Sure, thank thank you, Chair Sanford, and uh thank you to the board for having us this evening for this update um yep we are about six months into construction um and we wanted to provide an update as far as how much we've got completed so far and basically kind of just kind of review the timeline and answer any questions and concerns you may have so I'm gonna share my screen quickly here let's see if I can do this.

Can everyone see a PowerPoint yes yeah just yep.

Okay.

So um we'll jump right into it.

So the project status basically we are in the obviously in the construction phase of the project we are performing vault installations which we started uh in January of this year we have completed 13 of 26 vaults to date um and along that we've done duct bank installations which is also the trenching work that you see and that's about eight percent complete to date um so we're along that vein too we're also continuing our outreach to key stakeholders such as a butters uh yourself uh we actually met with the mayor last week to provide for an update as well we've been holding project information sessions to the public uh one of which were two of we which we just held in the last two weeks one was last Wednesday and representative uh didlow was there was good great to meet him in person um and we are we've also expanded a mailing to uh residents about half mile um on either side of the project route to give them an opportunity to learn a little bit more about the project and to sign up for updates that's one thing we're trying to do is keep the public uh updated and the best way for them to do that is either to they can visit our website but the best way is to uh sign up for their the updates via constant contact so uh residents a half mile within the project route the five mile project route will be receiving a postcard that has that information on there as long as well as our contact information for the project um I have with me tonight I have senior project manager on McDonald um and also senior community relations specialist uh Chris Farrell so I will open it up to you for questions I appreciate it are there any members uh on the committee that have any questions for Mr.

Barber or his team um representative Finkel floor is yours thank you chair uh Eric uh you also did a good job at the Glenbrook Neighborhood Association.

Yes thank you I forgot to mention um my question is as far as traffic is concerned uh I've seen people have issues with the detours at times that they've had to make and uh because the roads were totally closed and they had to go detour through some of the residential neighborhoods and some of the people in the residential neighborhoods are complaining because the people uh detouring and they're not being polite and they're speeding through etc.

Do you have any ideas and what might be able to be done with that and I appreciate your answer.

Thank you.

Um I'll let Glenn answer some of this but I I can tell you that we where we are putting up uh detours, we are trying to put up speed limit signs, uh, 25 mile an hour speed limit signs.

Obviously, you know, it's it's not going to prevent someone from disobeying that and going the speed they want to go, unfortunately.

Um, I can also say that some of the detours that were done um were decided by or determined by the Stanford police department, uh, which is their prerogative.

We typically would want one-way alternating traffic, but but if they so deem that they want to close the road and create a detour, that is again their authority to do so.

But I'll I'll let Glenn uh chime in.

Yeah, you you explained that pretty well, Eric.

Uh, everybody, repinkel, um, Chair Sanford, thanks for having us tonight.

Um, the only thing I'd add is we you know, to Eric's point, for the most part, our TMPs um envision alternating one-way traffic, not full road closures.

And obviously, our construction teams, um, our construction reps on the ground work closely with the the police uh to manage those traffic traffic plans.

Um the traffic plans are approved by the city, so they're typically presented as part of the permitting process, and the city then approves uh the permits based on the traffic management plans, like Eric mentioned, there have been times where where local PD has made determinations to alter the traffic management plans, and and in that case, we take all direction from the police.

Um we are communicating actively with um Luke at the city uh in the traffic office and other members of the city to make sure that everything we can do to maintain the traffic management plans as we've designed them, um, can be done, and and they're helping us to coordinate that with the police.

Uh unfortunately, you know, we acknowledge that that this does cause friction.

Um there will be traffic impacts, but but we're actively trying to minimize that to the best of our ability.

Hey, thank you, and I yield.

Uh Representative Dindelop.

Hey, Eric.

Uh yeah, it was great meeting you in person uh a couple weeks back.

Um couple questions.

I actually right after I left, and uh we were talking about um kind of filling in that pavement, and I was driving down High Ridge Road, and I was like, oh, I said so that was a really nice patch job over on High Ridge Road.

So is that kind of the expectation for as you're completing this work, including that trenching for the ducting installation, you know, as you're going along, is that kind of the level that you're looking to be getting for the winter time as we're approaching the winter time?

You're gonna take this one, Eric.

Sure.

The short answer is yes.

We the longer answer is, you know, at as united, um, which is our our constructing vendor as united complete segments, they'll be doing temporary restoration, which you probably saw was temporary restoration across the top of the excavation.

Um, and then as they complete much larger segments, um, potentially at the completion of the entire project, um, if it works out, there will be a full restoration, um, which will then mill and remove the temporary patches that you're seeing, and we'll restore the entire street.

So is that on high ridge road by Vine Road?

Is that that's a temporary patch, I'm assuming, correct?

Yeah, if that if I'm picturing the right spot, it's where it's not the entire width of the road, it's not one lane in the road, it's just the strip that was excavated.

That's now that that is a temporary.

Um, and those are done, United's doing a great job with those to try and maintain the most even surface that we can, even at a temporary level.

And my other question, if uh that was okay, um, how much more in terms of work that has to be coordinated with Aquarian?

Um, you know, I know Newfield Avenue, there's a few spots.

Uh, is there any other locations that Aquarian has to be shifting or moving water means around to accommodate you guys and you know, ensuring that that temporary patchwork is up to that same level as the work that's being done to say, no, that's Aquarian's work.

So is United Civil gonna go and patch that, or is that Aquarian said, hey, I did my job, and now here's my patchwork, and it's not as good of a patch as United Civil's patch, you know.

So that's kind of go ahead.

Yeah, that's that's a great question.

And the and the good news is even the work that is water main work, um aquarium work uh as you mentioned, this is um I think most of it's being done by JJ Brennan, which is uh which is a vendor that does a lot of work for Aquarian, but all of that is done under the purview of our project.

So restoration is still under my purview, under the purview of this project.

So what you experienced uh in the area on Cedar Heights that you were talking about, that's what it should look like everywhere we're doing temporary restoration.

Um, so that's the first part.

The restoration, whether it's temporary or permanent, um, all of that is ours.

In regards to you know, additional aquarium work, um, you were kind of at an interesting point on the project.

We we're in com we're in regular communication with Aquarian right now because we uncovered some very very old water main.

Um early 1900s, I think it's 1908 is the age of the water main.

And as you can imagine, I mean, all underground infrastructure has a shelf life, and so whether it's aquarium and water, whether it's us with under underground transmission, you know, you hit a point where you've got to you've got to repair, you've got to replace.

And so we're actively working with Aquarian to figure out where along our project route we're gonna have additional water main that may be at an age that requires replacement based on the age and the risk of excavating in close proximity to it.

And if that's the case, then then we'll we'll figure out between us and Aquarium who's gonna do that work, whether it needs to be replaced, and that will become part of the larger project scope that will communicate to everybody.

Ideally, you know, we determine that that what we're coming up against or what's in close proximity to our project is um newer, newer in age, uh in a better condition, so less risk uh associated with our excavation in close proximity to it.

Um but regardless of the age, you know, we're gonna mitigate risk, we're gonna do what we can to ensure that we're supporting those excavations, supporting the other utilities, and then if there are damages, we're responding quickly.

So that's a long way of saying I'm not sure yet how much more we're gonna be doing with Aquarian, but but we're actively working with them to determine where and if it's needed.

Yeah, it sounds like I didn't even consider that that you'd probably come across some some old means like that.

We're like, well, since we're digging and trenching here, we should let them know.

Um, I appreciate that.

Uh thank you.

Uh and chair, I yield.

Thank you, Representative Dillow.

Are there are there any other questions from the committee?

Well, I don't see any hands.

I I will ask one question.

I I you're just gonna have to excuse my ignorance, uh, Eric, but my question is like on your slide when you say 13 of 26 installed on on the surface, it might look like you're halfway done.

But I don't know if you can dig a bunch of holes and then you can put 10 in in a day.

Are we on track to be on time, or is this you know, we're more than halfway?

I'm just trying to get an idea of timeline wise.

I think back to one the original question is, you know, before the uh asphalt plants start closing in the in the winter time.

Like, are are we gonna have some type of completion before we go into the holidays or or are we still not that far along?

I'm just curious.

I'll defer to Glenn on that one.

Thanks, Glenn.

Absolutely.

I think I know the answer, but I I don't want to be wrong.

Yeah, you can I'm sure you could take this one.

I'm sure I mean I'll try I'll try to I'll try to just be layman's terms, like the biggest question I get is the simple when are they gonna be done, right?

Like that's and I'm like, well, you know, they're they're 13 of 26 installed.

Like I don't know how how to put that into the yeah, so the the easiest way to answer this is the the duct bank, the duct bank is like the continuous snake of trench, right?

That's gonna run all five miles of the project length.

So so really at if you start with just the duct bank percentage, we're eight percent complete with the roughly five miles of duct bank trench excavation that's gonna be required to complete the project.

So no no change to the project timeline.

We're still uh we're still looking at construction through the bulk of 2027 and into 2028.

Um this project is a is a long, slow-moving methodical process as we replace it.

The vaults themselves, the the easiest way to describe those is uh, I'm sure you've seen them on the street, a manhole cover, the circular manhole cover.

Well, most people don't realize is that underneath those uh there are in the case of electrical transmission, underground transmission, massive concrete rooms.

We refer to them as vaults, but large enough below the street for multiple people to stand upright and to work inside that vault, and that's where they will splice cable that's running through the duct bag together inside that vault.

So it creates enough space for people to work safely underneath the road to splice the cable together, and it gives us future access without having to dig everything up to get back in to check splices to adjust segments of the cable if we need to in the future.

Those massive vaults are very, very intensive individual operations.

So each one of those requires a massive hole in the ground compared to the duct bank, and then a crane, a flatbed to bring in the big vault, and then to place the vault into the ground and then connect it to the duct bank, which will continue on both sides of it.

So good news story, we're we're halfway done with those massive underground vault structures that need to be placed.

Um, but those are typically front loaded in a project like this.

They are very time and crew intensive.

So as those crews finish the vaults, then those crews will be reallocated to duct bank.

Uh, and then they'll be working on the the much longer, um, much more time consuming part of this project will be which will be continuing the duct bank.

So hopefully that answers so yeah, I'm just so after you install the vault.

Can you redo the streets so that they're and then access the vault via manhole so you can still do the work?

Like, is that absolutely okay?

So what's the vault then fine road with metal plates on it for the next three years?

And I was gonna somehow have to like explain that to someone.

Oh no, no, got it.

No, plating should plating should should not last for more in one segment.

Um, if things are moving according to plan, should not last for more than a couple weeks to a month or so.

I got it.

Yeah, what'll happen is is a section will be excavated, will be plated, and then after that, um that's when the that's when they'll come back in, they'll pour concrete, they'll install the actual duct bank itself, which is a concrete concrete bank underground, and then they'll backfill on top of it.

So it's it's kind of a step-by-step process.

You excavate, you plate until you get enough of a section of trench to make it worth bringing in the concrete, then you bring in the concrete, you pour the duct bank, you backfill on top of it, temporary patch on top of it, and then you're moving on to the next section where you're gonna do the same thing.

Excavate, plate, get to a point where you can pour concrete and keep moving like that.

That's very helpful.

I appreciate it.

Representative Didalo, did you have another thought?

Yeah, just to follow up for you.

Uh Glenn, since you're at halfway, do you think those vaults will be you know completed by uh the end of the calendar year?

Are we we're that's way out there?

I'm just wondering because we are halfway, it's summertime.

I know you probably have till about November till you know plants are on here.

Kind of I don't know if you can give a timeline because those are definitely more of a labor-intensive project than the trenching.

They are, and I think right now, uh, you know, it would be safe to say we're shooting for 90% this year.

We've got a couple outstanding design issues.

Um, where based on utility conflicts that we've discovered uh early on in the project, we're having to redesign exactly where the vaults will be placed and then redesign where the duct bank will go.

It doesn't necessarily change the overall route.

We'll be in the same same road, same streets that we planned, but we need we need a a pretty specific level of fidel fidelity on the engineering side to know exactly where they need to be placed, at what depth, um, what angle, and all of that.

And so, just based on some redesign, uh I can't say that we're 100% this year, but we're we're gonna get pretty close.

Thank you.

Yeah, I thought about that.

I was like, Yeah, that was probably a silly one because I'm sure you're coming across those aquarium stuff thank you I appreciate that absolutely thank you representative didlow are there any other questions this was very helpful and um it was a good update and I appreciate it and uh I will make sure people understand about the signing up for the constant contact and and I think the stakeholder engagement and the feedback and the QA is is help is helpful so thank you so much for that um if if we don't have any other questions I will give everybody back their time uh this evening and maybe Eric uh maybe we reach out into the in the late fall or going into the before the holidays and we do another another another session like that just before we go into the holidays and go into the winter time and all that and kind of check it a check-in type of thing sure all right October November somewhere in there yeah I I think so I I think that'll work so I appreciate everyone's uh joining us tonight and that's it for operations parks and rec.

I will go ahead and uh entertain a motion to adjourn.

So to adjourn and a second second all right I have what time do I have 743 p.m.

All right have a good night everyone see you next time thank you good night everyone