Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

This is Rich Bradley, President of the Board of Public Service.

This is the regular meeting of the Board of Public Service for Tuesday, August 26, 2025.

This is a public meeting and there are no lettings today, but we do have one hearing which we will handle at this time.

Hearing number 125688-RH is being conducted pursuant to Section 26.100.030 of the revised code of the city of St.

Louis.

The purpose of this hearing is to determine whether to revoke the conditional permit numbered as 125688 issued to Grant BP Gasmart to occupy 3182 South Grand Boulevard as a gas station with snack foods and no cooking.

The parties have been notified of the violations of the conditions of this conditional use permit in writing by certified mail along with the posted notice of today's hearing date.

The hearing has been convened in order to address the issues surrounding conditions number one, three, and six.

Condition number one, the windows must be kept clear of clutter with only permitted areas of the windows covered by signs in accordance with city ordinances with these conditions.

Application shall be made for all signs and approved by the office of zoning administrator before installation.

Condition number three, there should be no sale of items that can be used or intended for use as drug paraphernalia as defined in ordinance 68404 or successor ordinances, including but not limited to food scales, glass tubes, disposable lighters with pop-off tops, seal scrubbing pads and screens, rolling papers, ephedrin or pseudoephedron, diet supplements, sleep aids, bath salts, or other substitutes for illegal drugs.

Condition number six, there should be no loaning for which the applicant must post a no loitering sign and enforce it.

The office of zoning administrator had the burden approved the conditional use permit conditions have not been complied with.

After all evidence of the zoning administrator has been presented, the board will ask for additional testimony, if any in support of the revocation.

Then the conditional use holder will be given the opportunity to present evidence.

Lastly, the board will hear other testimony in opposition to the revocation if any.

As you testify, please direct your comments to the board and not to those in the audience.

Members of the audience are asked to remain silent and not coach the witnesses.

During your testimony, members of this board may have questions for you.

Following the hearing, the board will proceed with its regular agenda.

Following the conclusion of the regular agenda, the board will deliberate, discuss, and vote on the hearing.

The board will notify the conditional use holder of its decision by mail in about two weeks.

The Board of Public Service has in its possession the following documents which are being introduced into evidence.

Item number one, a certified copy of the zoning code of the City of St.

Louis.

Item two, the conditional use permit numbered as 125688, issued on April 17, 2018 for Grand BP Gasmart, COMA July Julya to occupy 3182 South Grand to operate as a gas station with snack foods, no cooking.

Item 3 Letters dated August 5th, 2025, sent by mail to DBA Grand BP Gasmart COMAR Jalaya at 3182 South Grand Boulevard.

St.

Louis, Missouri 63118.

And Amar Association LLC CO Amar Jalaya at 3182 South Grand Boulevard, notifying the permit holder and the other named entities of the violations of the permit and providing notice of the public hearing regarding revocation of conditional use permit number 125688 to be held on August 26, 2025.

Item 4, photographs dated July 31, 2025 of the indoor and outdoor conditions at 3182 South Grand Boulevard.

Item five, a copy of an email from the zoning inspector Sandra Long to the zoning administrator Mary Hart Burton, dated July 15, 2025 regarding complaints about the permit holder's business.

Item six, a copy of the public notices of today's hearing in the city journal dated August 12th, 2025, August 19th, 2025, and August 26, 2025.

Item seven, a photograph dated August 22nd, 2025 of a sign posted at 3182 South Graham Boulevard, giving notice of today's revocation hearing and of the premise.

An item 8, a copy of a memorandum and related photos dated August 26th from the zoning plan examiner, Sandra Long to the zoning administrator Mary Harburton regarding an investigation of permitted property on August 25th, 2025.

During which violations of conditions one and three were observed.

At this time, the board asked for representative of the office zoning administrator, please come forward and be sworn in.

The testimony you're about to give before this board is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

So have you got yes?

Please state your name and the address for the board.

Thank you.

As of my investigation yesterday, there's still all the signs on the windows still have not been permitted.

The applicant did state he thought the sign company did it in 2017.

And he is still selling black mouth cigars, which he said he thought he could sell them.

Okay.

So just for clarity, condition number one.

Uh the windows kept clear of clutter and only permitted signs and violation number, condition number three, no sale of items used for drug paraphernalia, correct?

That's correct.

He did post his no watering sign outside.

There's a photo of that.

Okay.

Thank you.

At this time, I'll ask if any of our board members have any questions for Ms.

Long.

Hey, seeing none.

Thank you, Miss Long.

If there's anyone else present who wish to testify the noted conditions have not been complied with, please come forward and be sworn in.

I do not see anyone in the chat.

And Michelle, I believe you just have the conditional use holder or Monica in the room with you, correct?

Yes, correct.

Okay.

So at this time, I'll ask one more time if there's anyone present which testified noted conditions have not been complied with.

Please come to my bring to my attention at this time.

See none.

Let the record reflect that there is no one present at today's hearing that supports this revocation.

At this time, the board asked the conditional use permit holder to please come forward and be sworn in.

The testimony you're about to give before this board is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

So have you got yes.

Please state your name and the address for the board.

My name is Omar Jabella.

And my address is 3182 South Grand Boulevard, St.

Louis, Missouri, 63118.

Thank you.

Can you please respond to the violations of the conditions that have been presented today by the Office of the Zoning Administrator?

Yes, uh first and foremost, good afternoon, guys.

Um I'm Omar Jadalai.

I had the business for 13 years.

So I know it's easy to bunch in all the gas stations and stores bunches together, but I work very well with the city.

So I spoke with um Miss Sandra and I explained to her yesterday that we are one 100% willing to comply with everything on the list.

So and I showed her yesterday that when it comes to the windows, I spoke with Anheuser Bush today, which did the windows back in 2017, and they said that they they do the windows all over St.

Louis, including the Enterprise Center, uh, where the blue split, and they said that they do not do permits.

So I also called a signing company uh called Mason Sign, which also said they don't do permits in the city of St.

Louis.

However, if this is an issue, I have no problem complying.

We can remove them, and I can work with the city with something that can cover the windows.

Uh, the reason the reason I'm um um I showed Sandra you said about the windows is if we remove the signage from the windows, you're basically going to see the storage room.

So it's going to be boxes um and letters and things like that, which which are going to show it's going to be extremely hideous, as well as you could also see behind the register.

So for example, if we remove the signs from the windows, somebody could just stand there, watch the cashiers count money, make safe drops and everything, which is unsafe.

And something that I had bought up uh uh a few years ago with uh Miles uh McConnell office, and they they said, okay, we can keep the signs up.

So that was something I spoke with his office about, and they said, okay, we'll keep the signs up for it because it was uh a safety issue.

But like I said, I'm I'm willing to cooperate with you guys and comply.

We can remove them, that's no problem.

Uh and we can work down the road with some some new types of signage.

Um, as far as the loadering signs, I apologize to Sandra yesterday.

We had them on the inside, and uh, I just moved them outside so they're easier to see because um you can only see them at night time.

You can see them well.

This way we you can see them better.

Um, as far as the anything um cigars and cigarellos commonly used or adapted for uh controlled substances.

We have a sign, I'll show it to uh Monica right here, uh, that we had for five years that says we do not sell blunts, papers, cones, or wraps.

What we do sell are black and miles, which are tipped cigars, and these are not used for us uh any uh we paraphernalia like a cigarello.

So for example, when people see that sign, you I mean, any of you can come stand with me just for an hour.

We have 10, 15 people come every hour and ask if we sell cigarellos or blunts or papers and cones or reps.

I show them that sign, and we have black and miles, but nobody's ever said since since we quit selling them in 2017.

Nobody's ever said, hey, I'll just take a black and miles because it's not the same use.

Whereas a cigarella is filled with fiberglass, these are tobacco.

So these are meant to be smoked, but they're not meant to be empty.

However, like I said, I'm still willing to comply.

If you guys disagree with me on that, you say, hey, we still don't want you selling black and miles, and I'll quit.

But um, as far as the list, black and miles aren't mentioned there because they are meant to be smoked, they're not meant to be broken down like a paper, cone, wrap, or cigarello, which is why I have that sign that sticks for all customers.

We don't sell cigarettes, bunts, papers, cones, or wraps.

So that's something I've been working with the city with uh Georgiana Ekbow.

Uh, I've worked with her for years.

She knows about us with the police department and also with with the Miles's uh Miles in his department.

So if everyone in this building knows that we've always worked with the city, we have no problems complying with you guys.

I know it's easy to bunch in, say, like, well, these are nuisance and that's uh a high traffic area, grand or kings highway or or grave way or whatever, but we we are different.

And I'm and I'll show you guys that we're different, and so that that we don't get bunched in with all those properties.

Um, like I said, I'm willing to comply.

It was uh and as far as loitering, you can you can speak with uh Carl Whitaker, who's the police in charge of our area, or Rachel Witt, they'll tell you when it comes to loitering, panhandling, we're the best in the city.

Our ratings are even higher than the target on Hampton because when when it comes to panhandlers and loaders, we kick them off the light immediately, which is something we have to deal with being on being on a street like Grand or Kings Highway or Gravway, you know, it's just a high high traffic area where people are just non-stop walking up and down the street panhandling.

So or whatever they're doing.

So that's just like our reputation with the city.

We have a very good reputation.

I'm willing to comply, whatever you guys want us to do, we'll do it.

If it comes to the signage, I can work with whoever's responsible for the signage.

We can do a whole new sign.

Um, we can like like I said, Anne Heiser Bush did this one.

So they put the Cardinals logo, the blues logo, uh St.

Louis FC, and then below it, they might have put like Bud Light or Budweiser.

We can completely remove that, just keep like the sports teams or I can make something like the arch or downtown or whatever, just something that is still covers the windows because I'll show these pictures to uh Monica and uh Sandy saw yesterday.

If we remove the signage from the windows, you're just gonna see the backs of boxes, ladders, and it's it's gonna be extremely ugly.

Just as you're looking at instead of looking at the store, you're gonna be looking at storage room, which is how the building was designed.

Um I don't know what else to say.

So I don't I don't uh I don't know.

So thank you.

Thank you for your testimony.

Obviously, you are passionate, and you came in today and you are talking about all these different things.

So, you know, from my perspective, and I'm gonna give the other directors an opportunity here in just a minute to ask you questions.

So currently you're in violation of two conditions, which is the window signage and the items, uh the cigars and cigarellos.

So a conditional use grants you the opportunity to run a business in an area that's not zoned for a business.

This board uh in the zoning division work really hard to make sure that you're not intrusive on the neighbors that you live with there and the conditions on the permit are the same today as they were when it was granted.

So, you know, I am not gonna sit here and go through a bunch of small details because that's not my forte.

However, uh Sandra Long and Miss Burton, the zoning administrator in the billing division are the experts in these items, and I'm gonna ask you to please listen very carefully when I tell you this.

Okay, please speak to them, Miss Long, Miss Burton, the billing division.

Find out what you need to do to be in compliance, and please get in compliance as soon as possible.

How long do you think it would take you to get in compliance for these two items?

If you spoke to the folks from the city and they told you exactly what you need to do, how quick could you do this?

I mean, if you want me to stop selling the black amounts today, I can I'll throw them in the trash.

I have no problem with that right now.

I'll throw them in the trash.

Um, I really like to me, it doesn't make it doesn't make that much of a difference.

It's just like I said, a black amount is like a cigarette.

So if if you guys want me to quit selling them, I'll just quit selling them.

I really it's not that serious for me.

As far as the windows, like I said, that's not only is it ugly, it's a safety, it's uh very because like I said, uh people can see what you have in your storage area, and that they can just walk in and walk back there and grab whatever they see.

Also, because you could see behind the register, they can just see where where the employees are counting the money, how much money they're counting, and and they can even um they can even just see where where we put our safe jobs.

So I showed that to Sandra yesterday, and if if you guys want me to remove the signs from there, I will, but work with me, tell me what like if I can do some other sign where it's uh clear or tinted or whatever, just for the safety, and just because it looks nice, because if you can see, like I'll show these pictures again to Monica.

If you can see, and I'll if Mary uh Burton is here right now, I'll go show you the pictures and Sandra saw yesterday.

If you can see like what what you'll be seeing, if we remove the signage, it's gonna be really ugly.

It's gonna be a huge eye sore, and uh Sandra can attest to that because I showed her yesterday.

Uh what so again, I would recommend to you you speak to the experts, assuming this board allows you, you know, time to cure, and you make sure that you discuss with them, see what is allowable, what is not allowable.

There's always options, but that's something for you to discuss with them, and then get into compliance.

Uh, assuming again, this board grants you um time to do that.

So at this time, in the interest of time, I'm gonna open the floor from any questions for any of our board directors of our conditional use permit holder.

Yeah, so just a uh comment, and I think Rich may have asked my question about how long it would take.

Um, we've had conditional use holders come in before this board and exude the same level or close to the same level of confidence and assurance, strong assurances that you have 30 days later, or whatever the time frame we provide, they come back and it uh sadly it's almost comical because we'll hear that from Miss Long or someone else, two, three, four, five still in violation, and we have this the similar assurances.

So if you are granted that time period or close to the same time period, it's imperative that you do what you say today.

You you spoke a lot and you said a lot of things, and I appreciate that and respect that.

It's just folks have to do what they're talking about, and they have to do what they're saying in front of this board.

So I just I hope you understand that emphasis on that.

Yeah, yes, I I understand uh Mr.

Greg, but but like I said earlier, it's not just talk.

I've had this business for 13 years, and in the last 13 in the last 13 years, like I said, we are we are one of the best when it comes to the nuisance panhandling.

I can get give you papers from the police department to show that we're we're one of the least called uh businesses in in South City as far as gas stations and stores, but it's like I said, it's it's not just talk.

If you want if you want this done right now, like I said, will you guys literally follow me back to the store and I'll just throw the black amount in the trash?

But like I said, the black and miles are like a cigarette.

If if like if like we're not gonna uh go over the semantics, if you're not happy with them, I'm not happy with them.

We'll get rid of them.

Uh like the windows, I would prefer if we speak with somebody and and they can see because I I don't want to just go with like a razor blade and take off the covering today, and then something happens tonight.

So maybe maybe if I can speak with Mary Burton today or Sandy Long, and we can we can come out with something as far as the windows.

Um I trust, sorry to interrupt you.

I trust those two colleagues you just mentioned are going to provide you with invaluable insight and guidance.

So thank you.

Is Mary here today?

Can I meet with her today?

Any other questions from any of our board directors?

Richard just said one quick question.

Yeah, two items.

Uh the two items that you're presented with.

Did you not know about these issues before today?

Um to be honest with you, um, I had a meeting with uh Miles McDonnell, and uh there's uh a guy he used to be on the police force, and he works in Miles' office.

So we that's who I spoke with.

This was this was at least a year ago.

So we spoke with him, we spoke about the black and miles, and I explained to him, I said, you know, black and mounts are not meant to be broken down, but not we don't sell like like uh when Sandy took the picture yesterday.

We don't sell any blunts, papers, cones, wrecks, and pipes, anything of that nature.

Nothing like nothing like ashtrays for for cigarettes or anything like that, because to me that's all we peripheral.

So we don't sell anything like that.

I showed I showed the pictures to the gentleman that works with Miles, as well as uh letters from Georgiana Ekbo, Officer Hearns, and the Officer Carl Whitaker.

So I showed that to Miles as far as the signage, they weren't happy with the signage, neither neither was the city, um, the South Grand uh the South Grand uh development with Rachel Witt.

They weren't happy with the windows either.

But when they come came and spoke with me, I showed them.

I said, listen, if we get rid of the Rindle signage, this is what we're gonna deal with.

So the meeting I had with Miles was over a year ago.

The meeting I had with Rachel was like two years ago, and ever since then, we've never had an issue.

Um, and I don't as far as everything else, the we don't have issues with anything else either.

So, like I said, if if you guys want me to remove them today, I can remove them today, but please uh let me let me do with uh Mary Burton and uh Sandralong before I remove them to show them what we'll be dealing with before I remove them because like I said, if I remove them, it's gonna be really ugly and very unsafe.

The black and miles, uh if you tell me right now, get rid of them, we'll do that immediately.

But the windows, if I can work with somebody today, that would be awesome.

Yeah, I think in regards to the black and miles, I think no tobacco is is allowed.

I think that's what the argument is.

Okay, I misunderstood that because the paper said anything used for um for um it said anything used for um adapted for involving a controlled substance.

And I I know like I've been I've been in the gas station industry for 20 years, I know black and miles aren't, but like I said, if you if you tell me quit, we'll quit immediately.

Okay, any further questions from any other board members.

Seeing none, thank you, sir, for your testimony.

At this time, if there's anyone present opposing this revocation that wishes to testify, please come forward and be sworn in.

Again, I don't see anyone in the chat.

Monica, there's no one else in the room with you, correct?

Yeah, that's correct.

Okay, so one more time.

If there's anyone else present uh opposing this revocation besides the conditional use permit holder, please come forward and be sworn and bring it to my attention at this time.

Seeing none.

Let the record reflect that there was no one present at today's hearing opposing this revocation.

The matter concerning hearing number one two five six eight eight is now closed and submitted.

The board will President Bradley.

Yes.

I'm sorry, but I have my hand up.

I'm sorry, I didn't see you, Mary.

Go ahead.

Okay, I just want to give a few points of clarification for the board members, if you don't mind.

Um, in regard to the window coverings, um the condition is not saying that he cannot have proper blinds or curtains in his window.

But the issue is that he's chose to use a sign to cover what's in his window.

Um a sign requires a permit.

Uh nobody can excuse him for from getting a permit for a signs, but he can remove the signage and he can do proper blinds or window coverings on the inside of his windows.

Um, I also want to just inform the petitioner.

Uh, he mentioned Miss Rachel Whitt.

I believe she's the uh uh chairman of the SID for South Grant.

He mentioned that he works with her, but he hasn't spoken with her.

And I'd recommend that he do speak with her because this complaint against his business originated from her office.

And that's all I have to add, unless any of the members would have any questions.

Are there any questions for Miss Burton from any of our board members?

As always, thank you for your insightful answers and I'm sorry I missed you.

That was uh wonderful information.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

The matter concerning hearing number 125688 is now closed and submitted, and we will deliberate the matter following the remaining agenda items at this time.

I'll have Secretary Deploy's call a roll.

Director Days.

Director Flake.

Director Hayes.

Present.

Director Patel.

Present.

Director Pearson.

Present.

President Bradley.

Present.

We have a quorum or call the three in order.

From the President, recommendation that approval be given as follows.

Missouri Historical Society to formally request that the Board of Public Service accept several artifact donations to add to the city's collection intended for display and preservation within the Soldiers Memorial Military Museum.

PSA number 1299.

Construction management and testing services for West Airfield program at St.

Louis Lambert International Airport with Kwame Green Joint Venture for the maximum agreement amount of $4,589,630.

PSA number 1301 River De Pairs.

Improvement from Gravel Oyster Landsdown, Federal Project STBG-5401 with Crawford, Murphy and Tilly, Inc.

for the maximum agreement amount of $2,398,783.29 cent.

Public Highway Overpass Agreement between the City of St.

Louis and Union Pacific Railroad Company for the construction, use, maintenance, and repair of a grade separated overpass structure that carries vehicular traffic traversing on South Compton over the railroad tracks at the railroad mile post 183 in the amount of 22,644.

Rules of the Board of Public Service have been duly adopted by the board in accordance to the charter of the city of St.

Louis and Section 3.02.080 of the revised code of the city and shall govern the conduct of the board and its member directors.

From the Office of Special Events, request for the following to be approved, subject to certain conditions.

There are eight special events to be declared as festival zones.

Sister Strut breast cancer awareness walk will take place on market between Jefferson and Olive on October 4th from 7 a.m.

to noon.

Setup and teardown will begin at midnight and end at noon.

Music at the intersection will take place on the streets throughout Grand Center District on September 12th and 13th from noon to 11 p.m.

and September 14th from noon to 10 p.m.

Setup and teardown will begin on September 10th at 8 a.m.

and end on September 15th at 5 p.m.

Hank Lewis 2025 will take place on Wharf Street between Shoto and Victor on August 29th, beginning at 6 a.m.

through August 31st, ending at 8 p.m.

North Side Trap Run will take place on MLK Drive between North Serra and Whittier on September 6th from 5 a.m.

to 5 p.m.

Wild Times will take place on Atasca between Virginia and Alley on September 28th from 2 p.m.

to 9 p.m.

Jazz and Blues Festival will take place on Euclid between Forest Park and West Pine and LaClee between Taylor and Kings Highway on August 30th from 1 p.m.

to 7 p.m.

Setup and teardown would begin at 6 a.m.

and end at 8 p.m.

City Sprint 5K will take place at Allo Plaza and Keno Plaza on Chestnut between North 20th and North 18th Street on October 19th from 6 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

Parking Day Street Skate demonstration will take place on Delmore between Hamilton and Laurel on September 19th from 9 a.m.

to 7 p.m.

I want to make a correction on the next item.

It's from the director of streets and not parks, recreation and forestry.

Request uh recommendation for the following to be approved subject to certain conditions.

Request by Paint Lewis, LLC to encroach artwork on the flood wall on South Ward Street, south of Gateway Arch from August 29th to August 30th.

From the directors of public utilities, recommendation that the board declares as emergency action for the following.

How we're being pump 16 vow actuator motor rewind.

The estimated cost of this work is 4,830.

The estimated cost of this work is 119,160.

From the directors of public safety and utilities, joint recommendation that the following be approved, subject to certain conditions.

Request by STL real estate to subdivide the lot at 2732 South 59th Street into two lots in city block 4050.

Request by young voices with action to consolidate 5949 through 5953, Dr.

Mort Luther King Drive in City Block 5000.

Joint recommendation that the following be denied.

Request by MJH rental and storage to adjust the boundary at 2818 through 2824 McNair Avenue in City Block 1417.

We have six conditional use from the director of public safety.

Good afternoon, Mr.

President and members of the board.

My name is Sandra Long, Plan Examiner for the City, and I'll be representing the building commissioner at today's meeting.

Per board order number 766 transmitted here with our recommendations for the following conditional use agenda applications.

Approval with conditions is recommended for five applications.

4648 Graboy Avenue, 5055 Louisiana Avenue, 2300 Cherokee Street, 2821 Merrimack Street, 3606 Isler Street.

Denial is recommended for one application, 6301 South Grand.

I request that these recommendations be approved as submitted.

Thank you, Sandra.

Are there any questions or comments on today's conditional uses?

Greg Hayes motion to approve the conditional use, excuse me, as submitted.

Second Pearson.

Thank you, Directors.

Can you call the roll, please?

Director Dace.

Hi.

Director Flake.

Aye.

Director Hayes.

Aye.

Director Patel.

Aye.

Director Pearson.

Aye.

President Bradley.

Hi.

Today's conditional uses are approved.

Right.

Hearing number one two five six eight eight issued to Grand BP Gasmart 3182 South Grand Boulevard as a gas station with snack foods and no cooking.

We heard from our zoning inspector, Miss Long, that the conditional use holder was still in violation of condition number one about windows having non-permitted signage and condition number three selling items that were could be used as illegal drugs.

We also heard from our conditional youth permit holder who talked about he would work with the board and with the uh departments in order to uh resolve both of these noted issues.

And then I want to note that we had no one at today's hearing that were in support or opposition uh to this revocation hearing.

So with that brief summary, I'll open the floor for any discussion.

I think from my end, it was good to hear that um he'll you know he would have to get a permit for additional signage or replacement signage, but that there's nothing that precludes him from putting up blinds or something like that.

So I'm assuming it will take him some time to procure blinds or whatever uh he would need to block off that window, but it seems like that could be a fairly straightforward easy fix to solve that problem that's correct.

That's my understanding as well.

Other comments from other directors.

Okay.

I uh um sorry, Rich.

I agree with director Pearson's comments.

I'm not sure to the extent of how long it would take.

Um, but I'm happy.

I'm happy to make a motion here with um unless anybody asking other questions.

Okay, hold that thought for a moment.

Any other comments from any of our other board directors?

Thanks, seeing none, director.

Would you like to make your motion?

Yes.

Um given there, I I would be speculating and maybe a quick fix.

She could do it in one day.

I just don't know in terms of the blinds or what have you, but I uh make a motion to provide 45 days for this conditional use holder to rectify what we're here for today with those violations from Miss Long.

Okay, thank you, Director.

Is there a second?

Second flag.

Okay, I have a motion and a second before we vote.

Is there any further questions or comments?

I do have one question.

So um, just for my own knowledge, is the issue with the signage something that is literally a fixed to the window.

Um, for example, if if a business owner wanted to put up some construction vapor and just tape it to the window or something like that.

Is that considered signage?

No.

I'm sorry, Mr.

President.

I can answer that.

Please.

So the definition of a sign is if you offer a good or service on premise.

So that's how those become classified as a sign because he sells Anheuser Busch products on the premise.

Normally we would not encourage people just to put up brown paper, especially the South Grand, because this is a neighborhood that's a walkable neighborhood.

It's got a great streets award.

So that's not really what we want to encourage because you kind of associate the brown paper with vacant storefronts or storefronts that are under construction.

So we would always encourage proper blinds or curtains or window coverings.

There's a variety of things.

There's things that you can get that are somewhat transparent, but black out the sun, or make the windows opaque so that you can't see through.

Studies show that you want the windows open so that you can see people inside and it programs or activates the street.

With all that said, though, there's still nothing stopping him from having proper window coverings in the windows.

It's just that what he has now is a sign, and that requires a permit.

So he has two choices.

He can apply for a permit.

He would probably end up at the board of adjustment because that's probably going to be more signage than that business is allowed.

Or he can remove those signs and do an alternative window covering.

I understand.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for that great answer as always.

Any further questions or comments before we vote?

So just to refresh everybody, the motion is to extend for 45 days and give the conditional use permit holder an opportunity to resolve the two conditions in violation.

At this time, I'll ask Secretary to please call the roll.

Director Days.

Aye.

Director Flake.

Aye.

Director Hayes?

Aye.

Director Pateo.

Director Pearson?

Aye.

President Bradley.

Aye.

We are going to extend for 45 days.

Thank you.

I'd like to turn your attention to our meeting minutes from last Tuesday, August 19th, 2005.

Are there any questions or any comments on the meeting minutes as submitted?

See none I'll ask for a motion to approve, please.

So move Pearson.

Second.

Sorry.

Thank you, Directors.

Can you call the roll, please?

Director Days.

Aye.

Director Flake.

Aye.

Director Hayes.

Aye.

Director Patel.

Director Pearson.

Aye.

President Bradley.

Aye.

The meeting minutes are approved.

Today's agenda.

Any questions or any comments on today's BPS meeting agenda?

See, none I'll ask for a motion to approve, please.

Motion to approve.

Hey.

Sorry.

Twice, Sean.

Second days.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I will call for previous role because it looks like Director Patel has left the meeting.

Is there any objection to the use of previous role?

No objection.

Thank you.

Seeing none, the agenda is approved.

Before we adjourn, are there any questions or any comments from any of our board directors?

I'd just like to wish everyone a safe holiday weekend and enjoyable weekend, well deserved for all of you and have fun.

Thanks, Greg.

Thank you.

Sounds good.

At this time, I'll ask for a motion to adjourn, please.

So moved, Hayes.

Second flag.

Thank you.

All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Meeting adjourn.